In this episode, we put a foundational assumption on the table: that research gives teachers answers. Michael makes a clear and generous case that it doesn't — and that both researchers and classroom teachers share responsibility for that misunderstanding. The distinction he draws between best practices and promising practices isn't semantic. It has real consequences for how leaders build cultures of evidence-informed decision-making, and how teachers are trained to engage with research in the first place.

From there, the conversation moves into some of the most persistent misconceptions in the field — including the idea that distance learning only works for certain types of students, and the often-overlooked role that local support plays in whether any online program succeeds or fails. Michael also challenges the assumption that face-to-face teachers have a natural engagement advantage over their online counterparts, and makes a compelling case for why the distance environment may actually offer more tools for meaningful connection — not fewer.

"The best that we can hope for in all honesty is that research might lead us to a promising practice as a starting point." — Michael Barbour

Topics covered:

• 00:00 — Michael's origin story in K-12 distance learning
• ~04:00 — Why teachers don't engage with research, and why researchers share the blame
• ~10:00 — Best practices vs. promising practices: why the distinction matters
• ~17:00 — Who distance learning actually works for
• ~21:00 — The role of local support in online program design
• ~24:00 — Engagement, belonging, and the myth of the visual cue
• ~30:00 — What "personalized learning" actually looks like in K-12 online contexts

Links and resources:

• DLAC Research Agenda Summary — referenced early in the conversation
• NEPC Newsletter: AI and Personalization in K-12 Online Learning — Michael's recent piece on what personalized learning actually means in practice
• Discover more virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org with hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
• Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning combines live virtual field trips with international student collaborations for a unique K12 global learning experience.

Dr. Brandon Ferderer is Head of Programming at Shared Studios and honors faculty at Arizona State University. A writer, performer, storyteller, and expert facilitator, Brandon holds a doctorate in intercultural communications from Arizona State University. His work spans private, education, and nonprofit sectors, harnessing communication technology to bridge cultural divides through dynamic educational and arts programs. His academic and creative works have been featured in Critical Studies in Media Communication and The Seventh Wave, and he has performed at the Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art, Phoenix Art Museum, the Moth Main Stage, and the Dixon Theater in New York City.

Ross Phillips is a social studies teacher at Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, New Hampshire. Holding a master's degree in education from the University of New Hampshire, Ross is passionate about bringing the world into his classroom through live virtual connections. An avid world traveler who has explored Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Egypt, Italy, Iceland, and beyond, Ross uses real-world application to ignite students' curiosity for non-Western history, law, and geography.

What Is Shared Studios?

Shared Studios is best known for its immersive portals — repurposed shipping containers equipped with audiovisual technology that place users in a full-body, face-to-face conversation with someone in a similar container in one of 20–25 countries around the world. But at its core, Shared Studios is a network of people: trained facilitators and community members around the globe — from community activists to UN officials — brought together to create meaningful educational connections. Programming can be delivered through the immersive portal environment or via video conferencing.

Key Topics Discussed

Why immersive portals go beyond video conferencing Brandon explains that 65–75% of a message's meaning is communicated nonverbally. While video conferencing restored face-to-face visibility, it also introduced "Zoom fatigue" — the tendency to monitor how we appear to be connecting rather than actually connecting. The portal creates full-body presence and a sense of accountability to your conversational partner, which is essential for building genuine empathy.

The origin story of Shared Studios Founder Amar Bakshi originally built the portal concept to help his grandmother feel connected to her native Pakistan — imagining her sharing a chai in a café. The first portals debuted at a New York art gallery and in Tehran, Iran, where the profound emotional responses (women dancing freely behind closed doors, a young man coming out) revealed the technology's transformative potential.

How Ross uses the portal at Winnacunnet High School Ross has built years of relationships with curators in Mexico City, Kigali, and other sites. Students recognize facilitators by name, ask about their lives, and engage in deeply personal conversations — including discussions about the Rwandan genocide with survivors and their families, a topic directly tied to New Hampshire's state curriculum standards.

The role of the facilitator On-site facilitators like Ross help students acclimate to the unique, distraction-free environment of the portal. The shared studios curators on the other end are trained to handle sensitive or culturally awkward moments as teachable opportunities rather than offenses — creating a space where students can "trip up" and grow.

Reaching reluctant learners Rather than leading with heavy topics, Brandon and Ross recommend starting with common ground — video games, food, music, daily life. A memorable example: skeptical Arizona State students connected with young men in Herat, Afghanistan over football and video games, and ended up in a 45-minute conversation about U.S.-Afghan relations.

Preparing students for cross-cultural conversations Shared Studios uses "shared understandings" drawn from the Mejlis style of dialogue — an approach rooted in Arab cultures emphasizing equity in speaking time, active listening, and respectful engagement. Brandon also discusses the importance of teaching students the difference between cultural relativism and universalism before entering conversations.

Why distance learning matters Both guests emphasize that the problems facing the next generation — climate change, refugee crises, global poverty, genocide — are deeply interconnected and cannot be solved by any one nation or culture. Distance learning, especially in immersive forms, is how we build the global citizens equipped to meet those challenges together.

Quotable Moments

"Video conferencing has been really great for connecting us. It has not been so good at creating connection between us." — Dr. Brandon Ferderer

"I've never walked away from a connection being like, 'Well, that didn't go well.' There's always a nugget." — Ross Phillips

"We have to find ways to put young people into conversation with people who are different than them... distance learning is the way that we do that." — Dr. Brandon Ferderer

Resources & Links

• Shared Studios
• Winnacunnet High School
• Find all episode links and visuals at cilc.org/podcast

Host links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org with hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning combines live virtual field trips with international student collaborations for a unique K12 global learning experience. See https://banyangloballearning.com/global-learning-live/

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Yet, for some, the question persists:
Was distance learning just a pandemic stopgap? Or is it a durable part of education’s future?

In this episode, John Watson joins us to unpack what the field actually learned from 2020 — and what it didn’t.

One of the most persistent misconceptions, he argues, is the conflation of emergency remote instruction with purpose-built online learning. High-quality digital programs take months or years to design. What happened during the pandemic was an emergency pivot. Those are not interchangeable.

More importantly, this conversation reframes the debate entirely. The future isn’t “online versus in-person.” It’s about expanding options.

What We Explore

• Why online learning should be compared to real on-the-ground alternatives — not idealized versions of school.
• How digital access enables other opportunities (CTE pathways, dual enrollment, flexible schedules), not just online coursework.
• Why hybrid models are emerging as one of the most dynamic growth areas in K–12.
• What personalization actually means — beyond superficial choice menus.
• How AI may reshape agency, instruction, and lifelong learning in unpredictable ways.
• A powerful story of a student who moved from functional dropout status to graduate school through a hybrid pathway.

Throughout the conversation, a consistent theme emerges: Success should not be measured at the system level alone. It has to be measured at the level of individual students and the futures they’re building. Distance learning isn’t valuable because it’s digital. It’s valuable because it creates flexibility where rigidity used to exist.

A Shift in Perspective

Instead of asking whether distance learning has a future, perhaps the better question is:

How do we design systems where digital tools expand human possibility — rather than merely digitize existing constraints?

The schools represented at DLAC are not arguing for replacement models. They are building blended ecosystems that combine online coursework, face-to-face experiences, internships, community partnerships, and emerging technologies in ways that make school more adaptive.

Episode Links

• Learn more about DLAC and their year-round professional learning communities: https://www.deelac.com
• Explore additional episodes and resources: https://www.cilc.org/podcast

About the Hosts

Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning, which designs structured live virtual and global learning experiences that expand student connection across classrooms and continents.

Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell work with CILC to support educators in implementing high-quality digital learning experiences across grade levels.

🎧 Listen in for a grounded conversation about what’s hype, what’s durable, and why distance learning is less about modality — and more about access, design, and student futures.

In this conversation, Julie Young traces the early design logic behind Florida Virtual School—what problems it was built to solve in the mid-1990s, and what that origin story still reveals about rigor, relationships, student identity, and how to design learning systems that scale.

You’ll hear why the mission was never “deliver online,” but break the capacity ceiling—especially in places where schools couldn’t staff courses, couldn’t afford expansion, or literally didn’t have rooms to add sections.

Key Ideas and Moments

1) “Virtual delivery was the means, not the mission.”

Julie frames FLVS as a response to overcrowding, teacher shortages, and unequal course access—not a fascination with the internet.

2) The AP “try it with a safety net” design

An early innovation: students could attempt AP coursework while having a built-in path back without public shame, sometimes even with the same teacher—reducing fear of failure and expanding who even tries advanced courses.

3) Why some students “become a different person” online

Julie describes how virtual learning can enable students who were failing or labeled in traditional settings to succeed because:

• they can move faster or slower without an audience,
• teachers can give more individualized attention,
• relationships can be built deliberately,
• bullying/social status pressures are reduced.

4) Relationship-building as an operational system, not a vibe

Early FLVS practice emphasized front-loading relationship-building: extended calls, deep parent conversations, learning student voice through writing, and using that baseline for both instruction and academic integrity (in an era before tools like Turnitin).

5) The parent’s role: support pace, don’t replace the teacher

Julie is explicit that FLVS was designed with teachers responsible for learning, and parents as partners for pace, communication, and context—not as the primary instructor.

6) What online makes possible in K–12 ↔ college pathways

From ASU Prep Digital, Julie shares how online models remove “physical campus” and age-related barriers in dual enrollment—making authentic college coursework possible even for unusually accelerated middle school students.

7) Why she wrote the book now

Julie’s book aims to capture 30 years of policy, research, mistakes, and breakthroughs—the “drama and trauma” of building an industry that many newer educators only encountered through the distorted lens of 2020.

Who This Episode Is For

• Policy and system leaders shaping virtual/hybrid strategy
• District and school leaders designing scalable online programs
• Instructional designers and program operators trying to make relationships reliable at scale
• Anyone tired of pandemic-era assumptions substituting for real history

Links & References

• Julie Young Education - https://www.julieyoungeducation.com/
• Julie's new book Virtual Schools, Actual Learning: Digital Education in America (with Julie Peterson and Kay Johnson)
• Florida Virtual School - https://www.flvs.net/
• Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration - https://www.cilc.org/
• Learn more about Banyan Global Learning: https://www.banyangloballearning.com

What you’ll get from this episode

• A clear way to think about quality as a system, not a tool or a single role
• How standards-aligned self-assessment becomes useful instead of performative
• Practical guardrails for using AI to speed up improvement without distorting it
• A sustainable model for improving virtual programs year over year

Key moments

• 00:01–02:05 — Why the quality question matters now
• 02:20–07:30 — The Virtual Learning Accelerator: coaching, assessment, and PD as one system
• 09:46–14:45 — How the needs assessment works (14 standards, ~45–60 minutes, instant report)
• 15:45–18:45 — Why the AI launch was delayed: tightening rubrics and recommendations
• 21:03–26:40 — Turning scores into action: why coaching is the translation layer
• 28:30–36:10 — Supporting teachers at scale: micro-courses aligned to online teaching standards
• 37:00–40:10 — Revisiting “Why Distance Learning?”: the shift from access to quality

Links

• Virtual Learning Accelerator: digitallearningworks.org
• EmpowerED Research Institute: empoweredresearch.org
• National Standards for Quality Online Learning: nsqol.org

Host Links

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org with hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning combines live virtual field trips with international student collaborations for a unique K12 global learning experience. See https://banyangloballearning.com/global-learning-live/

Drawing on her experience in higher education leadership, instructional design, and nonprofit systems change, Dr. Salas challenges the idea that digital learning is merely a delivery mode. Instead, she frames it as a connective infrastructure—one that can support access, belonging, wellness, and persistence when designed intentionally.

The conversation moves beyond emergency remote learning to examine how organizations evaluate readiness, why frameworks matter, and what leaders must confront if digital learning is going to meaningfully support students rather than strain them.

What This Episode Explores

• Why digital learning should be evaluated at the systems level—not course by course
• The difference between emergency remote teaching and sustainable digital learning
• How leadership, governance, policy, and student support services shape online success
• Why “online readiness” is about people and structures as much as platforms
• The role of reflection frameworks (Quality Matters, OLC, ISTE, and others) in continuous improvement
• How wellness, trauma-informed practices, and student belonging intersect with distance learning
• What teaching yoga online revealed about presence, connection, and learning in virtual spaces
• Why distance learning is better understood as connected, accessible, future-ready learning

Golden Moment

Dr. Salas shares an early career story from her time as an instructional designer—partnering with faculty to bring courses like anthropology, chemistry, and Arabic online before large-scale platforms made it commonplace. The moment highlights a recurring theme of the episode: trust, curiosity, and collaboration matter more than tools when innovation involves real change.

Why Distance Learning?

In Dr. Salas’s words, distance learning isn’t about distance at all. It’s about access, inclusion, and possibility—especially for learners in rural or underserved communities. When aligned with strong leadership and intentional systems, digital learning becomes a bridge rather than a substitute.

Mentioned Work & Resources

• Delmarva Digital Learning Association — https://delmarvadla.org
• United States Distance Learning Association - https://usdla.org/
• Bestemming Yoga — https://www.bestemmingyoga.com/meet-yt
• Numbers and Sense by Alexandra Salas
• Quality Matters, OLC, Blackboard, and ISTE digital learning frameworks (referenced conceptually)

Host Links

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org with hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning combines live virtual field trips with international student collaborations for a unique K12 global learning experience. See https://banyangloballearning.com/global-learning-live/

Pain Point

Many educators believe that authentic global learning requires travel, study abroad programs, or well-funded international exchanges—opportunities that remain inaccessible to most students. Even when virtual connections exist, they are often superficial, short-lived, or focused on “learning about” others rather than learning with them.

Solution

SUNY COIL offers a project-based, faculty-driven model that embeds international collaboration directly into existing courses. Rather than one-off calls or presentations, students work in mixed international teams on shared problems—ranging from food insecurity and data visualization to journalism, astrophysics, and app design.

Throughout the conversation, Hope shares:

• What distinguishes COIL from “Mystery Skype”–style exchanges
• Why friction, miscommunication, and failure are essential parts of cross-cultural learning
• How COIL builds student maturity, humility, professional communication skills, and global awareness
• Why virtual exchange is a powerful tool for equity, access, and inclusion, especially for students historically excluded from international experiences
• How the UN Sustainable Development Goals provide a flexible, shared framework across disciplines

Action

Educators across K–12 and higher education can begin rethinking global learning by:

• Designing short, team-based international projects within existing courses
• Prioritizing process, collaboration, and reflection over perfect outcomes
• Allowing students to navigate real-world challenges like time zones, communication styles, and cultural differences—with guidance rather than rescue
• Viewing virtual exchange not as a backup to travel, but as a distinct and powerful pedagogy

Why Distance Learning?

For Hope, distance learning creates space for reflection, grace, and intentional response. By combining synchronous connection with asynchronous thinking time, virtual learning allows diverse voices, languages, and cultures to grow together—right now, not someday in the future.

Episode Links

• SUNY COIL: https://coil.suny.edu
• UN Sustainable Development Goals: http://sdgs.un.org/goals

Host Links

1. Discover global virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students worldwide for success in an interconnected world.

To solve this, CILC redesigned everything around two clear pathways: Field Ed for PreK–12 classrooms and Rome From Home for adults and older adults. Each gives users a curated entry point rather than a maze of search results. And instead of forcing teachers or community coordinators to juggle logistics, CILC introduced bundles and fully hosted webinar series—options that reduce prep time to almost zero while improving the learner experience.

What problems CILC kept hearing

• Teachers overwhelmed by too many choices, not enough guidance
• Adults and senior-living communities needing moderated, accessible programs
• Content providers unsure how to adapt or refresh virtual programming
• School budgets going unused because scheduling felt too complex

What the redesigned model delivers

• Field Ed: A clean K–12 catalog aligned to curriculum, standards, and CTE
• Rome From Home: Cultural and wellness programming designed for older adults
• Bundles: Flexible funds teachers can use anytime, without losing budget
• Webinar Series: CILC handles hosting, registration, moderation, and tech
• Consulting: Support for museums and cultural institutions building or rebooting virtual programs

The episode also explores what makes a virtual field trip truly work. Tammy and Allyson break down pacing, interactivity every few minutes, accessible visuals, and the presenter “presence” that makes a screen feel like a shared space. For older adults, the structure shifts—more narrative, slower pacing, and extended Q&A—because live virtual learning often becomes a social anchor, not just a lesson.

Moments from the field bring it home: students from Nicaragua to Minnesota solving a physics challenge together in Field Ed Live, or the older adult who said, “I never thought I’d see the Smithsonian again—and I did, from my chair.” These are the access and opportunity stories that define why distance learning matters.

Why distance learning?

Because it brings the world to people who might never reach it—and brings it back to those who thought they’d lost it.

Episode Links

• CILC: Field Ed, Rome From Home, Consulting – https://CILC.org
• Schedule Banyan’s Bridges of Portland Virtual Field Trip via CILC

Most schools want to build cultural competence, empathy, and real-world communication skills, but:

• Finding reliable global partners is inconsistent and often falls apart mid-year.
• Language learners rarely get opportunities to use English in meaningful, real-world contexts.
• Teachers lack simple, low-prep ways to bring global learning into existing schedules.
• Field trips and international travel are expensive and inaccessible for most students.

The result? Global learning remains an aspiration, not a system.

However, Banyan's Global Learning Live is structured, scalable model that connects students worldwide through live field trips, global collaborations, and authentic showcase moments. Seth shares how 20 years of partnership with Tsai Hsing School led to the creation of an experiential cycle that prepares students not only for academic success, but for a rapidly changing, interconnected world.

What the program delivers:

• Live Virtual Field Trips
  Bringing students into real places—Portland bridges, Renaissance fairs, and more—with authentic “whoa” moments that make learning unforgettable.
• Global Student Collaborations
  Cohorts, not brittle partnerships—designed to reduce dropout risk, increase diversity, and ensure ELL accessibility.
• Authentic Purpose for Language Learning
  English isn’t a worksheet—it becomes the tool students use to communicate across borders and share their original ideas.
• A Low-Overhead, High-Impact Design
  Schools can join four-week pilots with one live class per week + a showcase and asynchronous global exchange.
• ELL-Ready, Teacher-Friendly Materials
  Built to make participation meaningful for all levels, not just native speakers.

Impact to date:

• More than 42,000 student years of distance learning delivered.
• Students report increased confidence expressing original ideas in English.
• Meaningful growth in perspective-taking, curiosity, and cultural competence.

Practical steps educators can take—whether or not they join the pilot.

1. Bring the world into your classroom through personal live video.
Use your own life, community, or experiences as cultural text. Even small shifts build perspective-taking.

2. Integrate short, purposeful global exchanges.
Asynchronous collaboration—sharing artifacts, reflections, or questions—can be powerful without live schedules aligning.

3. Join the Global Learning Live Spring Pilot.
Schools receive a free 4-week experience including:

• One weekly live session
• A live virtual field trip
• A collaborative artifact exchange
• Access to a global cohort of classrooms across continents

4. Start planning for sustained global engagement.
Seth describes the future vision: a global network with diverse cohorts, built-in supports for ELL learners, and eventually a FERPA-compliant platform designed for authentic collaboration at scale.

Episode Links

• Global Learning Live – Spring Pilot Sign-Up
• CILC.org – Schedule Virtual Field Trips, Including Banyan's Bridges of Portland Trip

But what if that assumption is simply wrong?

In this conversation, Cindy Carbajal, a 20-year veteran of Pearson Virtual Schools, shows us how vibrant, student-driven communities thrive online through thoughtful structure, flexible engagement pathways, and opportunities for real agency.

Cindy oversees a global clubs and activities program serving 11,000+ students across time zones, grade levels, and cultural backgrounds. Her work demonstrates that:

1. Student-Centered Design Fuels Real Belonging

• Clubs are built with a goal that at least 50% of live time is student talk time—not passive listening.
• Students share, present, lead, and create—driving engagement and ownership.
• Broad-topic clubs (like Art Club instead of Crochet Club) help students discover unexpected interests and communities.

2. Flexible Models Match Virtual Students’ Real Lives

• Every offering includes both synchronous and asynchronous pathways, ensuring access regardless of schedules, time zones, or family obligations.
• Live sessions build community; asynchronous challenges deepen skills and allow for self-paced exploration.

3. Clubs Quietly Reinforce Academic & Durable Skills

Cindy calls it “stealth learning”:

• Math skills reinforced in esports strategies.
• Reading skills strengthened through participation logistics and peer review.
• Executive functioning, digital communication, and leadership built through planning, presenting, and collaborating.

4. Data Drives Program Evolution

Her team measures:

• Enrollment and attendance
• Student and caregiver satisfaction
• Withdrawal trends
• Overlap between global clubs and local school clubs
   These insights help fine-tune offerings and spark new opportunities—like peer tutoring, reading buddies, and esports leagues.

How Educators Can Apply These Insights Today

1. Start with the student experience—not the content.

Ask: Where can students lead? Where can they share? How can this be theirs?

2. Build broad entry points.

Instead of a niche club for each interest, create umbrellas where kids can explore together.

3. Don’t replicate in-person school—capitalize on what’s uniquely possible online.

Global reach, time-zone diversity, virtual volunteer opportunities, and student leadership that scales across schools—these are advantages brick-and-mortar can’t match.

4. Teach students how to interact online.

Cindy’s programs explicitly teach:

• How to give feedback in writing and art clubs
• How to share space respectfully
• How to show kindness online (Kindness Club!)

5. Track what matters.

Attendance, satisfaction, enrollment, and student stories help shape future offerings.

Episode Links

• Pearson Virtual Schools — Learn more about their virtual school network and programs, including Cindy's Global Clubs.

Host Links

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org with hosts Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Museums have long been seen as places you must visit in person to truly experience their magic. But how can educators bring the depth, texture, and storytelling of art to students who may never set foot in a gallery? Traditional outreach—slideshows, static images, or “loan boxes”—often fails to capture the atmosphere, intimacy, and discovery of the real museum experience.

Cassie and Lauren share how the MFA Boston reimagined its approach by taking students inside the galleries through interactive live video sessions. Using simple technology—an iPad on a mobile tripod—they bring artworks, curators, and educators directly to classrooms. Students not only see art up close but also hear the sounds of visitors and experience the living energy of the museum.

They discuss how this approach:

• Deepens students’ curiosity and contextual understanding of art.
• Extends the museum’s mission by reaching beyond geography and accessibility barriers.
• Creates hybrid experiences where virtual and in-person visits enrich one another.
• Builds relationships—teachers and students often recognize Lauren as a “celebrity” when they visit in person!
• Strengthens collaboration with Boston Public Schools, ensuring alignment between curriculum, distance learning, and professional development.

For educators and cultural organizations, the MFA’s model offers a powerful lesson: distance learning doesn’t replace the field trip—it multiplies it. Start small. Use simple, mobile setups. Focus on creating authentic connections rather than high-tech production. Whether you’re teaching art, science, or history, virtual access can spark awe, equity, and engagement in ways that complement, not compete with, in-person learning.

Episode Links:

• Museum of Fine Arts, Boston – Distance Learning Programs

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Why This Matters

Educators are flooded with tools but lack training, workflows, and staffing to use them well—especially in hybrid settings where engaging in-person and remote learners simultaneously feels impossible. K-12 systems in particular face understaffing, turnover, and abandoned tech.

How to Make It Work

Pat argues for purpose-built technology aligned to teacher workflows and deliberate pedagogy for virtual/hybrid environments. The big shift: infrastructure is now easy—the work is pedagogical. He also highlights flexible learning models (including micro-credentialing) that expand choice for learners across K-12, higher ed, and the workforce.

Put It Into Practice

1. Audit for Purpose & Fit: Map your most-used teaching routines. Keep/choose tools that reduce steps in those routines and increase engagement for both in-person and remote learners.
2. Train for Hybrid: Treat hybrid as its own modality. Build camera/mic placement, interaction norms, and roles (e.g., a student facilitator) into lesson plans.
3. Offer Flexible Paths: Pilot a micro-credential or short, skills-focused module to give students on-ramps that match their time, goals, and circumstances.

Episode Links

• United States Distance Learning Association (USDLA) — mission, programs, and community
• National Distance Learning Week (NDLW) — first full week of November; explore events and sessions mentioned in the episode
• VDO360 — video collaboration cameras and solutions
• ETC Video — educational technology consulting
• CILC Podcast Hub — past episodes, resources, and community: cilc.org/podcast

Host Links

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

In this episode, Jerry Csaki, Senior Director of Youth, Education, and Leadership at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, shares how he’s turned virtual learning into a front-row seat to greatness. Through the award-winning Heart of a Hall of Famer series, students across nearly every state connect live with NFL icons to talk about character, integrity, and perseverance. What began as a local field trip program has become a global platform for teaching leadership and belonging.

Jerry reveals how distance learning expands access to stories that inspire—stories that remind students that greatness isn’t about fame or stats, but about resilience, teamwork, and heart.

Listeners will learn:

• How the Pro Football Hall of Fame uses live virtual programs to teach life values through sports.
• Why distance learning is about access—to people, perspectives, and purpose.
• How technology transformed the Hall of Fame’s programs from local field trips to global connections.
• What makes stories of perseverance and leadership so powerful when shared directly by the legends who lived them.

If you believe distance learning can only go so far, Jerry Csaki’s story will expand your definition of what’s possible when technology connects classrooms to character.

Episode Links

• Pro Football Hall of Fame – Youth & Education Programs

• Heart of a Hall of Famer Series – Connected by Extreme Networks
  
  

Host Links

• Explore virtual learning resources and programs at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell
• Discover global learning experiences at Banyan Global Learning with Seth Fleischauer

Want to help us reshape distance learning?
Share this episode with a colleague, reflect on your own “why,” and remember: the power of distance learning lies in the connections it creates—between students, stories, and the human spirit.

In this episode, we meet Maddie (11) and Ella (13), co-hosts of The Recess Rundown, a podcast created entirely by and for self-directed learners. What started as homeschooling and a love of writing, journaling, blogging, and gaming has grown into a vibrant collaboration fueled by Recess.gg, the online community where they found not only peers but also mentors and their closest friends. Through their podcast, they amplify the projects of other young creators, from coders and artists to bloggers and novelists—and in the process, they discover their own voice.

Maddie and Ella remind us that kids don’t just consume digital culture—they shape it. They share what they’ve learned about podcasting, what inspires them from fellow students, and how distance learning has built their confidence and community.

Listeners will learn:

• How self-directed learners find their passions through creative outlets like journaling, podcasting, and blogging.
• Why online friendships can be just as authentic—and even more motivating—than in-person ones.
• How communities like Recess.gg create a “safe bubble” that grows confidence, connection, and curiosity.
• Why peer inspiration is one of the most powerful forces in education—and how it drives new projects and ambitions.
• What it looks like when kids, not adults, set the agenda for their learning.

If you’re a parent, educator, or school leader wondering whether online learning can truly spark joy, curiosity, and belonging, this episode will challenge your assumptions—and let Maddie and Ella show you what’s possible when kids lead.

Episode Links

• The Recess Rundown Podcast – Student-created show about self-directed learning
• Recess.gg – Where young learners connect, collaborate, and create
• Interview with Recess.gg founder Ben Somers - Why Distance Learning #65: Turning Virtual Learning into a Multiplayer Experience
  
  

Host Links

• Explore virtual learning resources and programs at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell
• Discover global learning experiences at Banyan Global Learning with Seth Fleischauer

Key topics discussed include:

• The Birth of BOLD: Mandy shares the origins of BOLD, an organization created to support virtual school leaders in Florida. She explains how it has grown to become a vital resource for 67 public virtual school districts, offering collaboration, professional development, and legislative advocacy.
• Virtual Schools vs. State Virtual Schools: Mandy explains the differences between district and state virtual schools in Florida, emphasizing how they work together to provide a wide range of courses to students. She highlights the flexibility and choice that virtual schools offer, particularly in subjects like foreign languages and specialized courses.
• Building Relationships in a Virtual Environment: Mandy discusses the importance of relationship-building not just between students and teachers, but also among administrators and educators. She shares how BOLD facilitates these connections to enhance the virtual learning experience.
• Challenges and Misconceptions of Online Learning: Mandy addresses common misconceptions about online learning, including the differences between emergency remote learning during the pandemic and quality online education. She also talks about the traits that make a good online learner and how virtual schools can adapt to meet diverse student needs.
• Innovations in Virtual Education: Mandy highlights some of the innovations at Pinellas Virtual School, such as separating student and parent orientations to better tailor the learning experience and improve student success.

This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving world of virtual education, the importance of collaboration among educators, and how virtual schools can provide students with unique opportunities and skills for the future.

For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore the work of BOLD and Pinellas Virtual School. Links to their resources are available in the show notes.

About today’s guest: Mandy Perry is the principal of Pinellas Virtual School and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. She is a leader in virtual education advocacy at both the state and national levels, dedicated to improving and expanding virtual learning opportunities for students.

Episode Links:

• Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida
• Pinellas Virtual School

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance cultural competence and educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.

In this episode, we meet Ben Somers, founder and CEO of Recess.gg, an online platform transforming virtual education into an e-sports-style, team-based experience where students show up because they want to. With live academic games, mentorship, and a thriving virtual economy, Recess builds belonging, identity, and motivation into every challenge. But behind the fun is a serious vision: empowering self-directed learners with the tools—and freedom—they need to thrive.

Ben draws from deep experience scaling Synthesis (born from Elon Musk’s experimental school) and brings a philosophy rooted in Papert, Dewey, and Montessori to his product design. He argues that engagement is not just a tactic, but an ecosystem built on freedom, community, and purpose.

Listeners will learn:

• Why removing humans from digital learning can kill engagement—and how to bring community back.
• How Recess balances spontaneity and structure to guide students toward long-term goals.
• What a “job board for kids” looks like—and how it helps them become creators, not consumers.
• How AI is being used not to replace human reflection, but to support deeper reflection and mentorship.
• What it means to design an environment where math is learned like French: fluently, through immersive experience.

If you’re a virtual school leader, edtech entrepreneur, homeschool parent, or anyone wondering how to make distance learning work better, this episode will challenge your assumptions and show what’s possible when engagement is student-driven and purpose-aligned.

Episode Links
- Recess.gg – Where student agency meets academic gameplay
- Seymour Papert – The educational theorist Ben credits as a major influence
- Kerbal Space Program – The game teaching kids rocket science and orbital mechanics
- Oxford Kids Conference – Where Recess students presented their podcast

Host Links
- Explore virtual learning resources and programs at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell
- Discover global learning experiences at Banyan Global Learning with Seth Fleischauer

Want to help us reshape distance learning?
Share this episode with a colleague, reflect on your own “why” for virtual education, and remember: the future of learning might look a lot more like Recess than a lecture.

In this episode, Nancy Grim, a veteran early childhood educator from Tucson Unified Virtual Academy, brings a burst of energy and creativity to bust that myth wide open. With a background in theater and a deep understanding of child development, Nancy shares how she transforms her virtual classroom into a joyful, engaging, and student-centered space for kindergartners and second graders. From puppets and props to emoji-based emotional check-ins and student-led tech tutorials, Nancy shows how virtual learning can be more than effective—it can be magical.

Listeners will learn:

• Why puppets, costumes, and unexpected props boost engagement and emotional connection for young learners.
• How to build tech independence and classroom culture—even in kindergarten.
• How second graders can lead peer learning and contribute to a thriving virtual community.
• How embracing creativity and play helps students make academic and cultural connections from home.

If you’re an early elementary teacher, school leader, or curriculum designer wondering how to support younger learners online, Nancy’s practical strategies will spark ideas and shift your thinking. Share this episode with a colleague, try one new engagement prop in your next session, and remember: joy is a tool, not a luxury, in digital classrooms.

Episode Links

• Tucson Unified Virtual Academy

Host Links

• Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
• Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

In this episode, Dr. Tovah Sheldon—school design strategist at Michigan Virtual and leader of the Leadership Coaching for Innovation initiative—unpacks how true transformation begins with the adults in the system. With warmth, insight, and a deep coaching mindset, she guides us through what it really means to center leadership development around the human experience. From redefining change through “rugged flexibility” and allostasis, to bridging the gap between personal and organizational values, Dr. Sheldon makes the case for slower, deeper, more reflective innovation. She shares stories of golden moments, challenges us to pluralize transformation, and gives us a clear pathway toward leading with clarity, purpose, and empathy.

If you’re leading innovation—especially in virtual or hybrid environments—listen in for insight on:

• Why “rigid” systems fail in dynamic environments, and how to lead with adaptive stability.
• How to help leaders and teams surface their core values and use them to drive sustainable change.
• The habits and actions that define innovators—and how they play out differently in virtual spaces.
• Why going deep before wide is essential for lasting, scalable impact.
• How “small-i” innovations build momentum toward big transformation.

Episode Links:

• Leadership Coaching for Innovation at Michigan Virtual
• Brad Stulberg on Rugged Flexibility and Allostasis
• Henry Ford Innovation Hub – Phil Grumm’s Work

Additional People and Concepts to Link:

1. Brad Stulberg
   Referenced for the concepts of allostasis and rugged flexibility.
   🔗 https://www.bradstulberg.com
2. Phil Grumm and Henry Ford Learning Institute / Innovation Hub
   Credited as the origin of the Habits and Actions of Innovators framework.
   🔗 https://inhub.thehenryford.org/
3. Dr. Jay Marks
   Mentioned for his insight: “Lots of little moments lead to momentum.”
   🔗 https://www.nuatc.org/about-us/mentors/jay-b-marks-ph-d/
4. Ellen Langer
   Referenced for her ideas on mindfulness, scientific uncertainty, and contextual truth.
   🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Langer
5. 3P Learning (Project-, Problem-, and Place-based Learning)
   Discussed in relation to innovation in virtual programs.
   🔗 Resource from Michigan.Gov
6. Cynthia Coburn
   Cited for the depth before breadth concept in educational change.
   🔗 https://sesp.northwestern.edu/people/faculty/cynthia-coburn.html 

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

In this episode, Dr. Chris Harrington - leader of the EmpowerEd Research Institute, AccredVEd, and Digital Learning Works - shares how real transformation happens when virtual education is approached as a system. From curriculum to leadership to parent engagement, Chris lays out what it means to create a student-centered, coherent virtual learning ecosystem. He introduces specialized accreditation processes, discusses how to build systems around people - not tech - and shares inspiring stories from the field, including how one virtual program helped a struggling student graduate against the odds.

If you’re building - or rebuilding - a distance learning program, listen in for insights on:

• Why cohesion is the key to long-term success in virtual education.
• How to lead systems change with clarity, equity, and community buy-in.
• The power of specialized accreditation to elevate—not just evaluate—program quality.
• What it really means to put relationships at the center of digital learning.

Episode Links:

• Digital Learning WORKS
• EmpowerEd Research Institute
• AccredVEd

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Amanda Bell, a visionary CTE leader and creator of High STEP Virtual Academy, proves otherwise. In this episode, Amanda shares how she’s revolutionizing health science education for rural and under-resourced schools through virtual reality, AI simulations, and hybrid learning models. From virtual cadaver labs to soft skills AI bots, Amanda walks us through how her students are getting certified, career-ready, and more self-aware—all without ever stepping into a physical clinic.

Discover how immersive technology can elevate CTE and make career exploration more equitable, accessible, and personalized. Amanda also offers practical insight into building community online, teaching empathy virtually, and using tech to strengthen—not replace—the human side of healthcare education.

Episode Links:

• High STEP Virtual Academy
• South Central Service Cooperative
• Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC)

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

The conversation covers how CoLab builds safe, judgment-free cohorts that span cultures, how facilitators become coaches, and why giving students agency and space to fail leads to deeper learning. From “Elemental Escape” to avocado-themed risk challenges, this episode reveals a vibrant new model of education—where learning is playful, purposeful, and profoundly human.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Why distance learning is uniquely suited for global, collaborative play
• How CoLab designs challenges that teach soft skills in high-stakes games
• The coaching model that blends structure and autonomy for kids aged 7–15
• Creating psychological safety in virtual cohorts from 25+ countries
• How feedback from students and facilitators drives content innovation
• Alan’s vision for future adult and school-based applications of CoLab
• The role of play in building empathy, leadership, and resilience

Episode Links:

• Collaboration Laboratory Website
• Connect with Alan Tang on LinkedIn

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

The episode explores how Desiré transitioned into virtual learning out of necessity, only to become a cornerstone of educator support in Florida’s online education community. From dispelling myths about teacher isolation to building sustainable systems of care, Desiré shares stories, strategies, and moments of growth that challenge the notion that distance learning limits connection. Her experience reveals how personalized, human-centered leadership—and a dash of humor—can transform virtual teaching into a deeply rewarding career.

Pain Point:
Many educators—especially high-performing ones from traditional classrooms—struggle with the transition to virtual teaching. They face feelings of professional disorientation, burnout, and isolation, often exacerbated by the misconception that online teaching is less personal or impactful.

Solution:
Desiré combats these challenges with a highly personal, relationship-first approach to coaching and systems design. She builds trust from day one, treating teachers as whole people with lives beyond their screens. Her tools include visual boundaries for home life, proactive calendar management, and “kudos files” to keep morale high. Importantly, she systematizes this approach through a team of lead teachers who carry these same values into their smaller groups, making large-scale support both scalable and heartfelt.

Action:
Educators and school leaders can apply Desiré's strategies by:

• Building proactive onboarding that prioritizes relationship-building.
• Encouraging staff to design personal schedules that protect work-life balance.
• Modeling vulnerability and curiosity in coaching interactions.
• Instituting a “kudos file” system to celebrate small wins and sustain motivation.
• Training household members (yes, even toddlers) on virtual work boundaries.

These simple but powerful actions help foster longevity, well-being, and excellence in the virtual teaching profession.

🔗 Episode Links

• BOLD – Blended Online Learning Discovery of Florida
• SOS Strategies for Online Survival by Desiré Mosser

🎙️ Host Links

• Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
• Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

In this episode of Why Distance Learning, Dr. Lori Wiggins, principal of Pasco eSchool, shares how her team runs 12 distinct programs under one virtual roof using a tiered system of support. She walks us through how they combine asynchronous learning, live sessions, adaptive tools, and in-person days to respond to every learner’s academic and emotional needs. Lori emphasizes data-informed decisions, social presence, and the importance of building team capacity to identify and address gaps early and effectively.

Learn how to design flexible virtual models that start with student need, not system convenience. Discover how to use AI as a teacher tool, build roadmaps for intervention, and sustain a human connection that keeps students showing up—even when the learning isn’t easy.

Episode Links:
🎧 Listen: https://cilc.org/podcast
🔗 Pasco eSchool: https://www.pasco.k12.fl.us/eschool

Host Links:

• Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
• Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Joe shares how his platform breaks down barriers to participation by offering bite-sized video lessons across 19+ sports and activities, including dance, yoga, and tennis—many of which require no special equipment. Designed to meet national standards, Hiveclass supports both virtual and brick-and-mortar schools in delivering wellness education that’s engaging, equitable, and empowering for all learners.

This episode challenges the myth that physical education can’t be done well online—and makes a compelling case for why it must be.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Why PE is the most skipped class—and how digital tools can change that.
• Building student confidence through choice, differentiated instruction, and accessible content.
• Supporting overburdened teachers and addressing PE teacher shortages.
• Bringing equity to sports access by removing geographic and financial barriers.
• How wellness-focused instruction can build lifelong skills and resilience.
• The future of digital PE: partnerships, growth, and rebranding physical education for what it truly is—whole-child wellness.

Guest Bio:
Joe Titus is the founder and CEO of Hiveclass, an award-winning digital platform that brings high-quality physical education to learners everywhere. A former finance executive turned edtech entrepreneur, Joe’s mission is to make movement education engaging and accessible for all students—regardless of ability, background, or setting. Hiveclass serves hundreds of schools with standards-aligned video content across 19+ disciplines, empowering students to build confidence, health, and lifelong fitness habits.

Episode Links:

• Learn more: hiveclass.co
• Connect with Joe on LinkedIn: Joe Titus
• See CILC.org/podcast for more episodes

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

They discuss the unique mission of the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC) and Banyan Global Learning, the challenges and triumphs of distance learning, and the surprising golden moments that define their purpose. It’s a candid, insightful, and at times comedic conversation that reminds us why distance learning matters—and what’s possible when it’s done with care, creativity, and connection.

Episode Highlights:

• Allyson’s early roots in museum education and her passion for virtual learning that began in 2007.
• Tami’s journey from prairie dresses to pioneering history education online—and a logging lesson kids never forget.
• Seth’s origin story as the Sad Mets Fan and how it intersects with the founding of Banyan Global Learning.
• The role of CILC as a global connector for educators, institutions, and learners across every stage of life.
• Golden moments from remote Canada to Taiwanese seniors preparing for U.S. colleges—real stories of virtual learning done right.
• Why this podcast was created: to challenge misconceptions, amplify untold stories, and advocate for the power of live virtual learning.

Episode Links:

• Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC)
• Banyan Global Learning
• Make It Mindful Podcast

Host Bios:

• Seth Fleischauer is the founder of Banyan Global Learning and a longtime advocate for teaching global competencies through live virtual programs. He’s also the internet’s original Sad Mets Fan.
• Allyson Mitchell is the Director of Partnership and Engagement at CILC. With deep roots in museum education, she’s a passionate voice for live virtual learning and co-creator of Why Distance Learning.
• Tami Moehring is the Director of Member Relations at CILC, bringing 10+ years of expertise in supporting educators and institutions in delivering impactful virtual experiences.

This powerful conversation makes the case that when done intentionally, virtual learning can create stability, connection, and even joy in crisis.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Founding an online school during wartime and scaling it to serve thousands.
• The role of distance learning in supporting displaced, traumatized, and underserved students.
• Building emotional safety and student engagement in a virtual community.
• Supporting volunteer teachers and maintaining a strong international team.
• Why culture, structure, and creativity matter even more in crisis.
• The importance of equipping students not just with knowledge, but with hope and vision for the future of Ukraine.

Guest Bio:
Yuliya Kosko is the founder and director of Svitlo Education, a free online school for Ukrainian children affected by war. A former primary school teacher in London and co-founder of EducAd Consulting, Yuliya has used her deep experience in international education to create a thriving virtual community that supports both academic growth and emotional healing. Svitlo means “light” in Ukrainian—a name given by one of her first students, and a mission Yuliya embodies every day.

Episode Links:

• Learn more or get involved: svitloschool.com
• Connect with Yuliya on LinkedIn: Yuliya Kosko
• See https://cilc.org/podcast for more episodes

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, host Seth Fleischauer welcomes Heather Rhodes, founder of Highgrove Education and former leader of Harrow School Online. Together, they explore how international online schools can foster academic excellence, cultural competence, and learner autonomy—challenging the perception that online learning lacks rigor, community, or real-world readiness.

Heather shares how her journey began with a desire to support English learners beyond summer programs, and evolved into leading some of the most academically successful online schools in the UK. She explains how Highgrove Education builds a vibrant online culture, prioritizes independent learning, and prepares students not just for exams—but for adulthood.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Why international community building is at the heart of online learning

• How online education reduces prejudice and creates a more inclusive environment

• Practical ways to build belonging, including student-led clubs, house systems, and real-time feedback

• The flipped classroom model and the secret to student agency and academic success

• How conflict is addressed through cultural awareness and shared expectations

• What kind of young adult emerges from this model—and why they thrive at university and beyond

Guest Bio:

Heather Rhodes is the founder of Highgrove Education, an academically rigorous international online school. With over a decade of experience in online education, she previously led Harrow School Online and continues to redefine what’s possible in virtual learning. Heather’s mission is to develop globally minded leaders through inclusive, high-impact education.

Episode Links:

1. Highgrove Education
2. Highgrove Speaker Series – A public-facing program of expert-led talks that anyone can attend, not just enrolled students.

In this episode, we sit down with Kate Longworth, CEO and founder of Gaia Learning, a global online school designed for neurodivergent learners. Kate shares how personalized online learning can reduce stress, increase accessibility, and help students build the confidence they need to succeed—whether in virtual or in-person settings.

Key takeaways include:

✔️ The misconception that distance learning isn’t suited for marginalized students—and why the reality is quite the opposite.

✔️ How Gaia Learning’s tiered approach helps neurodivergent students transition from disengagement to confidence.

✔️ Why emotional safety is the foundation of academic success, and how online learning can foster trust and connection.

✔️ Strategies for scaling personalized education while maintaining meaningful, individualized support.

🎯 Action Steps:

• For educators: Consider how flexibility and interest-based learning can transform student engagement.

• For parents: Explore whether hybrid or online models might provide a better fit for your child’s learning needs.

• For school leaders: Rethink the role of online education as a complement to—not a replacement for—in-person learning.

🔗 Episode Links:

🎓 Learn more about Gaia Learning: GaiaLearning.co.uk

📖 Explore resources on neurodivergent learning and education accessibility.

🎧 Listen to past episodes at CILC.org/podcast.

🎤 Host Links:

🌍 CILC.org – Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources with Tami Moehring & Allyson Mitchell.

🎥 Banyan Global Learning – Bringing meaningful global learning experiences to students worldwide with Seth Fleischauer.

🔹 Why Distance Learning? Because it’s evolving, impactful, and here to stay.

Pain Point: Many believe that subjects like music require in-person instruction to be truly effective. Can students really learn to play an instrument, develop musicality, and experience meaningful arts education online?

Solution: In this episode, Why Distance Learning? hosts welcome Caleb Smith, a professional musician and experienced online music educator. Caleb shares how virtual learning is breaking barriers, making music education accessible to students in remote communities, and fostering creativity in ways traditional classrooms cannot. He explains how online instruction differs from in-person teaching, how technology enhances musical immersion, and why local educators are key partners in virtual music programs.

Key Takeaways:

🎸 Access Over Geography: Online music education connects students in isolated communities with world-class instruction.

🎼 Beyond the Notes: Music education online isn’t just about technique—it’s about inspiration, creativity, and cultural exchange.

📡 Technology as an Enabler: Innovations like OBS Studio, hybrid models, and latency-free platforms (like Gig Room) are redefining online music learning.

🤝 Empowering Educators: Effective online instruction isn’t just about students—it also supports local teachers in refining their craft.

🌎 Cultural Connection: Virtual learning expands students’ exposure to musical traditions, instruments, and styles from around the world.

Action: Listen now to learn how distance learning is transforming music education and what educators can do to optimize virtual arts instruction.

🎧 Episode Links:

 • Learn more about Caleb Smith’s work in online music education

 • Explore Gig Room, a low-latency solution for virtual music collaboration

 • Read about how OBS Studio enhances online music instruction

📌 Host Links:

1️⃣ Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell

2️⃣ Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

🎙️ If you found this episode valuable, please rate, review, and share Why Distance Learning? with your network!

Virtual learning skeptics often assume that online education was a temporary fix—an emergency response rather than a viable long-term model. Many educators and policymakers still equate today’s online learning with the chaotic transition of 2020, failing to recognize how far the field has come.

In this episode, John Watson, founder and CEO of DLAC and the Digital Learning Annual Conference, joins us to challenge these misconceptions. As one of the leading voices in digital education, John has spent decades tracking the evolution of online learning, from early adoption to the cutting-edge innovations shaping its future.

Key Insights & Takeaways:

✅ Distance Learning Is Not a Pandemic Experiment—It’s a Proven Model.

 • Many assume that online learning started with COVID, but John explains how digital education has been a long-standing movement with a robust foundation before the pandemic.

 • The abrupt shift in 2020 was emergency remote learning, not the structured, effective virtual programs that have been evolving for decades.

✅ The Reality: Virtual Learning Expands, Not Replaces, Student Options.

 • Online courses are often the only way students can access AP classes, dual enrollment, or specialized subjects.

 • Hybrid and online programs are built on choice, allowing students to personalize their learning while maintaining flexibility.

✅ The Future of Education Is Hybrid, Not Either-Or.

 • The next wave of education isn’t about choosing between online and in-person—it’s about blending the best of both.

 • DLAC attendees are shaping innovative hybrid models, where online learning enhances, rather than replaces, traditional schools.

✅ Sustainability and Lifelong Learning Matter More Than Ever.

 • AI, virtual reality, and digital tools are reshaping education, but sustainable models require schools to focus on personalization and long-term adaptability.

 • John shares a powerful story of a student who went from nearly dropping out to excelling in a hybrid learning model, proving that online education creates futures, not just classrooms.

Actionable Takeaway:

Educators and policymakers must shift their focus from debating if distance learning has a future to optimizing its role in expanding educational access and personalization. The key isn’t replacing in-person learning but designing flexible, high-quality options that meet students’ diverse needs.

🔗 Episode Links:

 • Learn more about DLAC and upcoming events: DLAC.com

 • Explore virtual learning resources at CILC: CILC.org/podcast

📢 Host Links:

 • Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.

 • Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

🎧 Listen now to hear why distance learning isn’t just here to stay—it’s shaping the future of education.

Too many virtual students feel disconnected and unseen, struggling in a system that wasn’t designed with them in mind. Educators want to create engaging, inclusive online spaces—but without the right tools, distance learning can feel like a barrier rather than a bridge.

🎧 In this episode of Why Distance Learning, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring sit down with Dr. Breauna Wall, founder of Collaborative Ed Solutions, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in virtual education: how to build an emotional climate that keeps students engaged—especially those with diverse learning needs.

Key Takeaways:

✅ Why emotional climate is the #1 factor in student success—before grades, curriculum, or even technology.

✅ How online learning can be a game-changer for students with disabilities and marginalized learners.

✅ The difference between access and true inclusion—why simply providing a device isn’t enough.

✅ Proven strategies to foster engagement and connection in any virtual classroom.

✅ Golden moment: How one father’s frustration turned into a powerful breakthrough in student support.

💡 PROBLEM → SOLUTION → ACTION

If your virtual students feel like they’re just a name on a roster, this episode will change the way you think about online learning. Discover practical strategies to build community, engagement, and real human connection—even through a screen.

About Today’s Guest:

Dr. Breauna Wall is the founder and CEO of Collaborative Ed Solutions, a Johns Hopkins University teaching associate, and an expert in special education and educational leadership. With over a decade of experience, she focuses on empowering educators and fostering inclusive, accessible learning environments. Her upcoming book on supporting special educators will be released in 2025.

Guest Links:
1. Dr. Wall's CollaborativeEd Solutions - https://www.collaborativeedsolutions.com/

Host Links:

 1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.

 2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Research Consulted:

1. Golden, Alexandrea and Emily N Srisarajivakul, Amanda J Hasselle, Rory A Pfund, and Jerica Knox. "What was a gap is now a chasm: Remote schooling, the digital divide, and educational inequities resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic." [PubMed Central] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10259090/

2. Pressly, J.P. "Online Learning Can Help Minimize Racism and Ableism In and Out of the Classroom." [Edtech Magazine] https://edtechmagazine.com/higher/article/2022/05/online-learning-can-help-minimize-racism-and-ableism-and-out-classroom

3. Spievack, Natalie and Megan Gallagher. "For Students of Color, Remote Learning Environments Pose Multiple Challenges." [Urban Institute] https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/students-color-remote-learning-environments-pose-multiple-challenges

Too many virtual schools struggle with student disengagement, teacher burnout, and the overwhelming challenge of building culture in an online environment. Leaders and educators are left wondering—Can we really create a strong, connected school community without a physical space?

🎧 In this episode of Why Distance Learning?, hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring sit down with Alicia Hughes, founder of Sparking Up Leadership and former principal of South Carolina’s largest virtual public school. Alicia shares the hard-earned strategies she used to turn an isolated, disengaged school community into one that thrived—with 98% staff satisfaction and a 90% graduation rate.

Key Takeaways:

✅ Culture drives everything—Why strong relationships matter more than test scores in virtual schools.

✅ The power of small norms—How something as simple as a cameras-on policy transformed school engagement.

✅ Why most virtual schools fail at community-building—And what Alicia did differently to ensure students felt seen and supported.

✅ How to get staff buy-in—Strategies for inspiring teachers to model connection and engagement.

✅ Technology is a tool, not a solution—Why the right mindset matters more than the latest edtech trends.

💡 PROBLEM → SOLUTION → ACTION:

If your virtual school is struggling with low engagement, staff turnover, or a disconnected student experience, this episode gives you practical, tested strategies for creating a thriving school culture—even when everyone is behind a screen.

Guest Bio:

Alicia Hughes is the founder of Sparking Up Leadership, where she helps organizations thrive in virtual spaces through leadership excellence and team dynamics. With over 20 years of experience in education, Alicia has successfully led initiatives to create strong cultures in both physical and virtual settings. She is the author of Sparking Up Leadership: Igniting Your Influence with Sparkle and Sunshine and is passionate about relationships, positivity, and empowering others.

Episode Links:

• Connect with Alicia Hughes on LinkedIn.

• Learn more about Sparking Up Leadership at SparkingUpLeadership.com.

• Explore Alicia’s book, Sparking Up Leadership: Igniting Your Influence with Sparkle and Sunshine.

Host Links:

 1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.

 2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Key Topics Discussed:

 • The unique power of distance learning to connect learners with otherwise inaccessible environments, such as oceans and marine life.

 • Kasey’s approach to interpreting complex scientific research into engaging, digestible content for diverse audiences, from teens to lifelong learners.

 • Insights from Kasey’s work at Earth Echo International, including programs empowering youth to protect and restore the ocean planet.

 • Reflections on co-authoring Defining Interactive Virtual Learning and Museum Education: A Shared Perspective and its ongoing relevance in framing effective distance learning practices.

 • The challenges and opportunities of teaching live over video and how passion, adaptability, and technical skills create transformative experiences.

Guest Bio:

Kasey Gaylord-Opalewski is a marine science educator with over 20 years of experience in designing interactive virtual learning programs. As a leader at Earth Echo International, Kasey empowers youth and educators to take meaningful action for ocean conservation. She is also an accomplished author, co-writing a seminal article on defining distance learning practices.

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Episode Links:

 • Earth Echo International - https://www.earthecho.org/

 • Journal of Museum Education Article - https://www.cilc.org/CILC/media/Documents/2-Defining-Interactive-Virtual-Learning-in-Museum-Education-A-Shared-Perspective.pdf

 • CILC Podcast Page - https://www.cilc.org/podcast

Key Topics Discussed:

• The importance of emotionally held learning spaces in live virtual education.
• How Bina School uses thematic biomes and SDG projects to create meaningful learning experiences.
• The role of adaptive content generation in balancing personalization and standardization.
• Building a global community for young learners and redefining what a school can be.

Guest Bio: Noam Gerstein is the CEO of the Bina School, a pioneer in precision education and a thought leader in the field. With a background in history, technology, and social innovation, Noam has spent years researching global education systems and building solutions to meet the needs of Gen Alpha learners. She is a frequent speaker at education conferences and a passionate advocate for blending cultural diversity with cutting-edge technology.

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Episode Links:

• Bina School - thebinaschool.com
• Contact Noam Gerstein: noam@bina.school

Key Topics Discussed:

• The origins of Museflow and Patrick’s inspiration to create a new approach to music education.
• The role of flow state in learning music and how Museflow integrates it into its design.
• Gamification as a tool to make practice engaging and rewarding for learners of all levels.
• The importance of sight reading as a foundational skill and how Museflow prioritizes it.
• AI’s role in personalizing the learning experience by adapting tempo and complexity to individual learners.
• How Museflow complements traditional music instruction without replacing the human element of teaching.
• Stories of success, including users overcoming fear of failure and finding joy in the learning process.

Guest Bio: Patrick Boylan is a multi-instrumentalist, entrepreneur, and co-founder of Museflow, a music edtech platform that reinvents the way people learn instruments. A lover of musical theater and passionate advocate for accessible music education, Patrick’s innovative approach bridges the gap between tradition and technology.

Host Bios:

• Allyson Mitchell: Distance learning expert, gamification enthusiast, classics nerd, amateur astrologer, and proponent of engaging, student-centered education.
• Tami Moehring: Coordinator for the Center for Interactive Learning and Collaboration (CILC) and deep advocate of live virtual learning.
• Seth Fleischauer: Former classroom teacher turned founder of an innovative learning company, Banyan Global Learning, specializing  in the teaching of digital, linguistic, and cultural competencies. Seth also hosts another podcast, Make It Mindful, which explores transformative ideas in education through deep, thoughtful conversations that empower educators to adapt to an ever-changing world.

Episode Links:

• Learn more about Museflow: Museflow Website
• Explore live virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org.
• Connect with the podcast team: CILC Podcast Page.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Differentiation in Distance Learning: Liz explains how virtual experiences can address diverse student needs through choice boards, interest-based field trips, and collaborative learning opportunities.
• Student Engagement: Liz recounts a "golden moment" when a high school Mystery Skype session connected students in New York and Poland, fostering empathy and shattering stereotypes.
• The Role of Distance Learning Specialists: Liz discusses how she supports educators by providing access to high-quality programs, sharing practical advice, and encouraging teachers to embrace innovative tools.
• Overcoming Myths About Distance Learning: Liz challenges misconceptions stemming from pandemic-era experiences, emphasizing how interactivity and simplicity can transform virtual education into a powerful tool.
• The Transformative Power of Distance Learning: From exposing students to global perspectives to inspiring lifelong curiosity, Liz underscores why virtual education is essential in today's interconnected world.

Guest Bio:

Liz Huson is a Distance Learning Specialist at Erie 2 BOCES, where she supports educators across 22 school districts in leveraging live virtual learning experiences to enrich curricula, engage students, and provide equitable access to transformative educational opportunities. A former middle school English teacher, Liz brings her passion for differentiation and creative teaching strategies to her current role, ensuring that students and teachers alike benefit from the possibilities of distance learning.

Host Bio:

Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell, and Tami Moehring are dedicated to exploring the question, "Why distance learning?" through interviews with educators, content providers, and field experts who are transforming virtual education. Together, they highlight innovative uses of technology to enhance learning, build cultural competence, and connect classrooms around the world.

Episode Links:

• Learn more about Erie 2 BOCES: https://www.e2ccb.org/
• Listen to past episodes: cilc.org/podcast

Host Links:

• Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
• Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning uses technology to enhance digital and cultural competence in teachers and students.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The foundation of Fit Learning and Dr. Berens’ mission to improve educational practices worldwide.
• How behavior science informs Fit Learning's methods, focusing on measurable outcomes and frequent reinforcement.
• Differences between cognitive science and behavior science in education.
• Challenges in traditional education and how belief-based practices hinder student success.
• The concept of “fluent” learning, emphasizing skill mastery before moving to complex applications.
• Online learning’s role in making behavior-based education more accessible.

Guest Bio:
Dr. Kimberly Berens is the founder of Fit Learning and CEO of Fit Learning Online. With over two decades of experience, she has created a system of instruction grounded in behavior science that consistently delivers rapid academic growth. Her work has expanded to include centers in the U.S., Canada, Europe, and Australia, along with Fit Learning Online to reach learners in underserved areas. Her book, Blind Spots: Why Students Fail and the Science That Can Save Them, explores the limitations of traditional educational practices and advocates for science-based methods.

Guest Links:

1. Fit Learning – fitlearning.com
2. Fit Learning Online – fitlearningonline.com
3. Dr. Kimberly Berens’ Personal Website – drkimberlyberens.com

Host Links:

• Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
• Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning uses technology to enhance digital and cultural competence in teachers and students.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Butterfly Pavilion Overview: Jillian shares how the Pavilion is the world’s first AZA-accredited invertebrate-only zoo, showcasing diverse species beyond butterflies.
• Live Virtual Programs: From close-up encounters with tarantulas to life cycle lessons, Jillian explains how Butterfly Pavilion’s virtual offerings align with educational standards and bring unique learning opportunities to classrooms worldwide.
• Technology & Innovation: The conversation dives into how high-definition cameras, and digital microscopes bring these tiny creatures to life in a digital environment.
• Memorable Moments: Jillian shares stories of “golden moments” when students’ curiosity sparks during live animal interactions.
• De-Ickification of Invertebrates: The goal is to help students appreciate the importance of often-overlooked creatures like cockroaches and tarantulas, fostering a love for nature.

Tune in to this episode to discover how virtual field trips and hands-on experiences with invertebrates can transform learning. Explore more about Butterfly Pavilion's offerings at butterflies.org.

About the Guest:

Jillian Luciow is the virtual and school programs coordinator at the Butterfly Pavilion, where she develops and leads engaging educational content. With a background in history and public engagement, she brings a unique perspective to connecting students with the natural world through live virtual learning.

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning builds cultural and digital competencies in students to prepare them for an interconnected and changing world.

Key Topics Discussed:

• Maddie's journey from museum volunteer to distance learning specialist.
• The development of digital exhibits and synchronous virtual field trips.
• Operation Foot Locker, a program that ships World War II artifacts to classrooms.
• The museum’s mission to preserve history and teach lessons of tolerance.
• Golden moments when students connect personally with history, including stories from underrepresented groups.
• The importance of balancing synchronous and asynchronous learning experiences.

In-depth insights for educators:
Maddie explains how distance learning bridges physical gaps and brings the museum to students worldwide. She discusses how their programs meet the needs of diverse audiences, from K-12 classrooms to lifelong learners, and shares strategies to create meaningful connections through primary sources and oral histories.

Call to Action:
Tune in to this episode to discover how Maddie and her team use technology to make history come alive. Learn how virtual programs like Operation Foot Locker and interactive webinars are transforming history education. Check the show notes for links to the National World War II Museum’s virtual offerings and explore how to bring these experiences into your classroom.

About today’s guest:
Maddie Roach is the Distance Learning Specialist at the National World War II Museum. With a background in history and public history from the University of New Orleans, Maddie blends her love of technology and education to develop engaging, meaningful virtual programs for learners around the world.

See the museum's promo video, featuring Maddie and mentioned in the episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QBMSd7fLxs

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning has performed over 40k live virtual teaching periods while improving students' language, digital, and cultural competencies.

Key topics discussed include:

• The Birth of BOLD: Mandy shares the origins of BOLD, an organization created to support virtual school leaders in Florida. She explains how it has grown to become a vital resource for 67 public virtual school districts, offering collaboration, professional development, and legislative advocacy.
• Virtual Schools vs. State Virtual Schools: Mandy explains the differences between district and state virtual schools in Florida, emphasizing how they work together to provide a wide range of courses to students. She highlights the flexibility and choice that virtual schools offer, particularly in subjects like foreign languages and specialized courses.
• Building Relationships in a Virtual Environment: Mandy discusses the importance of relationship-building not just between students and teachers, but also among administrators and educators. She shares how BOLD facilitates these connections to enhance the virtual learning experience.
• Challenges and Misconceptions of Online Learning: Mandy addresses common misconceptions about online learning, including the differences between emergency remote learning during the pandemic and quality online education. She also talks about the traits that make a good online learner and how virtual schools can adapt to meet diverse student needs.
• Innovations in Virtual Education: Mandy highlights some of the innovations at Pinellas Virtual School, such as separating student and parent orientations to better tailor the learning experience and improve student success.

This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving world of virtual education, the importance of collaboration among educators, and how virtual schools can provide students with unique opportunities and skills for the future.

For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore the work of BOLD and Pinellas Virtual School. Links to their resources are available in the show notes.

About today’s guest: Mandy Perry is the principal of Pinellas Virtual School and president of the Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida Executive Board. She is a leader in virtual education advocacy at both the state and national levels, dedicated to improving and expanding virtual learning opportunities for students.

Episode Links:

• Blended and Online Learning Discovery (BOLD) of Florida
• Pinellas Virtual School

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance cultural competence and educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.

Key topics discussed include:

• Podcasting plays a crucial role in education by reaching and engaging learners who may not have access to traditional learning formats.
• Authenticity and storytelling are key elements in creating impactful podcasts that resonate with listeners.
• Surprise and delight can make learning experiences more memorable and engaging.
• Podcasting allows for the exploration of diverse voices and perspectives, bringing new ideas and insights to the forefront.
• Distance learning has the potential to transform education by providing access to learning opportunities for individuals who cannot attend traditional classrooms.

This episode provides valuable insights into the evolving world of education, podcasting, and distance learning, offering educators and listeners a thoughtful perspective on the future of learning.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Background

02:56
The Evolution of Education

08:49
The Role of Podcasting in Education

17:50
Balancing Education, Journalism, and Entertainment

25:01
The Impact of Podcasting

31:46
The Power of Authenticity and Surprise

38:03
Why Distance Learning?

For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore Jeff Young’s work with EdSurge. Links to his resources are available in the show notes.

About today’s guest:
Jeff Young is an editor, reporter, and podcaster at EdSurge, where he covers how technology is reshaping education. He also hosts the EdSurge podcast, which focuses on the future of learning. Jeff has over 20 years of experience in education journalism and has written for publications like The New York Times, USA Today, and The Wall Street Journal.

Episode Links:

• EdSurge Podcast: https://www.edsurge.com/research/guides/the-edsurge-on-air-podcast

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance cultural competence and educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.

Key topics discussed include:

• Constitution Day Collaboration: Julie, Jocelyn, and Ang share how their organizations came together to create a Constitution Day program that combines resources from the National Constitution Center, the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery, and the Annenberg Public Policy Center. The program will feature a live webinar where students can engage with the story of Juneteenth and the U.S. Constitution, highlighting the significance of freedom and civic engagement.
• The Role of Opal Lee: The guests discuss the impact of Ms. Opal Lee, known as the "grandmother of Juneteenth," and how students will have the unique opportunity to interact with her during the event. They also explore how her story ties into the broader themes of the Constitution and American history.
• Virtual Learning Advantages: The conversation touches on the benefits of virtual learning, including the ability to bring diverse voices and perspectives into the classroom. The guests explain how technology allows students to engage with primary sources, such as portraits and historical documents, in ways that are not possible in a physical classroom.
• Nonpartisan Civic Education: The importance of teaching civics in a nonpartisan manner is emphasized, with insights into how the National Constitution Center and its partners strive to present multiple perspectives on constitutional issues, fostering civil dialogue and critical thinking among students.

This episode provides an in-depth look at how educational organizations can collaborate to create meaningful, engaging learning experiences for students, especially on important topics like the Constitution and civic responsibility.

For more insights and practical advice, tune into this episode and explore the work of the National Constitution Center, Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery, and Lenore Annenberg Institute for Civics. Links to their resources are available below.

About today’s guests:

• Julie Silverbrook is the Vice President of Civic Education at the National Constitution Center, where she leads initiatives to educate the public about the U.S. Constitution and civic engagement.
• Jocelyn Kho is the Student Programs Coordinator at the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery, where she manages educational programs that bring art and history to life for students.
• Ang Reidell is the Director of Outreach and Curriculum at the Lenore Annenberg Institute for Civics, with a focus on creating educational resources that promote civic education and engagement.

Episode Links:

1. National Constitution Center
   • National Constitution Center
2. Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery
   • Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery
3. Leonore Annenberg Institute for Civics
   • Annenberg Public Policy Center
4. Annenberg Classroom (for films and educational resources)
   • Annenberg Classroom
5. Constitution Day Event Registration via CILC
   • Register for Constitution Day Event on the CILC Events Calendar.

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance cultural competence and educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.

Dr. Jennifer Williams is the founder of Teach SDGs and co-founder of the nonprofit organization Take Action Global. She is a thought leader in using educational technology to promote global perspectives and social good. As an educator and author of Teach Boldly: Using EdTech for Social Good, Dr. Williams champions the role of technology in fostering equity, diversity, and social action in education. Connect with Dr. Williams on X (formerly Twitter) at @JenWilliamsEDU.

In this episode, Seth, Allyson, Tami and Dr. Williams discuss:

• How educational technology (EdTech) can be harnessed for social good, particularly in the context of global education and climate action.
• The work of Take Action Global (TAG), a nonprofit dedicated to climate education and social impact, and its programs that connect teachers and students in over 160 countries.
• The role of connection in EdTech, emphasizing how global collaborations can help build identity and foster social impact among educators and students.
• The importance of community-driven initiatives, such as Climate Action Day, where students, educators, and global leaders come together to focus on climate education and action.
• How TAG’s community programs offer resources, frameworks, and support for educators interested in integrating climate education into their classrooms.
• The unique challenges and learning opportunities that arise when educators and students from diverse cultural backgrounds engage in virtual exchange and distance learning.

Key takeaways:

• Educational technology offers powerful tools for global connection and social impact, enabling educators and students to collaborate on important issues like climate action.
• Take Action Global’s community-driven approach supports teachers in integrating climate education into various content areas, fostering a sense of global citizenship among students.
• Programs like Climate Action Day and the Earth Project app provide accessible entry points for educators looking to engage their students in meaningful, action-oriented learning experiences.
• Cross-cultural collaboration in distance learning requires careful instructional design and a focus on equity and access, but it also offers profound opportunities for shared learning and empathy.

Learn more:

• Visit Take Action Global to explore the organization’s programs and resources.
• Check out the Earth Project app to start tracking climate actions and engaging students in climate education.
• Explore the Climate Action Project and other community programs to get involved in global learning initiatives.
• Subscribe to Why Distance Learning for more insights into how technology is transforming education. Available on all major podcast platforms.

Episode Links:

1. Dr. Jennifer Williams on X (formerly Twitter): @JenWilliamsEDU
2. Take Action Global: takeactionglobal.org
3. The Earth Project App: Available on App Store and Google Play
4. Climate Action Project: takeactionglobal.org/climate-action-project
5. Build the Change (Lego Group Partnership): lego.com/en-us/sustainability/build-the-change
6. Teach Boldly: Using EdTech for Social Good (Book by Dr. Jennifer Williams): Available on Amazon

Host Links:

1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Learn how Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.

Music education thrives on real-time collaboration—but for years, online instruction has struggled with one major roadblock: latency. For music teachers, conductors, and performers, even a slight delay makes synchronous playing nearly impossible. What if that problem disappeared completely?

In this episode, Why Distance Learning hosts Seth Fleischauer, Allyson Mitchell and Tami Moehring welcome Terry Lowry, a composer, conductor, and founder of Musical Overture, to discuss how Gig Room, his breakthrough low-latency music platform, is revolutionizing virtual music collaboration.

Terry shares the hidden challenges of online music performance, the technical breakthroughs behind real-time distance collaboration, and how tools like Gig Room are not just replicating in-person learning—but enhancing it.

And now, this technology is paving the way for something even bigger: Stars Align, an ambitious global project aiming to connect a billion students in real-time music performance. Imagine students around the world—led by renowned musicians, astronauts in space, and global changemakers—joining together for a live, synchronized song that transcends borders and brings the world together through music.

Key Topics Discussed:

• 🎼 The #1 barrier to online music learning—and how to eliminate it

• 🎧 How Gig Room achieves ultra-low latency for real-time collaboration

• 🏆 The first-ever “E-Concert” and what it proved about distance music learning

• 🎵 How distance learning can make students better listeners

• 🚀 The future of global music education—can a billion students perform together?

Key takeaways:

• Conducting and teaching share similarities in preparation, communication, and fostering a collaborative environment.
• Musical Overture and Gig Room bridge geographical gaps, enabling musicians to collaborate and perform together in real time.
• Technology like Gig Room can enhance music education by providing opportunities for virtual rehearsals and performances, leading to greater confidence and preparedness among musicians.
• Innovative projects like Stars Align demonstrate the potential of virtual platforms to create large-scale, impactful musical events that unite people worldwide.

Learn more:

• Visit Musical Overture to explore the platform and Gig Room.
• Watch the documentary “Hear Us” on Apple TV and Amazon Prime to learn about the world’s first e-concert and its impact.
• Subscribe to the podcast to hear more inspiring stories from educators and industry professionals leveraging technology in virtual learning.

Guest Bio:

Terry Lowry is a Steinway Artist, conductor, and composer with over 200 works. He is the host of the Tone Poem podcast, the conductor of the Carroll Symphony Orchestra, and the co-founder/CEO of Musical Overture. His work in low-latency music technology has helped musicians worldwide perform together in real-time—no matter where they are.

Host Links:

 1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.

 2. Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning provides meaningful global learning experiences that prepare students across the globe for success in an interconnected world.

Subscribe to Why Distance Learning for more engaging interviews and insights into the evolving landscape of virtual education. Available on all major podcast platforms. Visit Be Podcast Network to learn more about the network and discover other educational podcasts.

Karen and Ben share the origin story of Virtual Excursions Australia, born from a casual conversation at a tech conference and fueled by a shared passion for enhancing educational outreach through technology. They discuss the challenges and triumphs of their journey, emphasizing the critical role of technology in facilitating impactful learning experiences outside traditional classroom settings.

Throughout the episode, both guests reflect on the dramatic shifts in educational practices prompted by the COVID-19 pandemic, noting the surge in demand for virtual learning solutions. They explore how this shift has not only persisted but evolved, with more educators embracing digital tools to complement and extend their teaching.

Listeners will gain valuable insights into the mechanics of running successful virtual programs, including the importance of interactive content, technical reliability, and engaging presentation skills. The episode also delves into the specific strategies for enhancing participant engagement and ensuring educational content is both accessible and impactful.

This episode is a testament to the innovative spirit that drives educational technology forward, making it a must-listen for educators and technology enthusiasts alike.

Guest Links
Virtual Excursions Australia - https://dartlearning.org.au/provider/virtual-excursions-australia/

Host Links:
1. Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell's CILC.org

2. Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

Kate delves into how the museum bridges the gap between scientific curiosity and educational accessibility through virtual programs. The attendees experienced firsthand the museum’s green screen studios and interacted with artifacts that enhance learning beyond the classroom walls.

This episode not only highlights the seamless integration of technology in education but also exemplifies how virtual platforms can extend learning horizons, connecting students nationwide with unique scientific resources. The vibrant interaction at the museum underscored the boundless possibilities of distance learning, making this session a significant milestone for the podcast and its mission to showcase innovative educational strategies.

Guest links:
Denver Museum of Nature and Science: https://www.dmns.org/

Host Links:
1. Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell's CILC.org

2. Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

Heidi delves into how her background in writing and her personal narratives resonate deeply with her audience, turning her social media pages into platforms of learning and personal development. She discusses the pivotal role of authenticity and vulnerability in connecting with her audience, particularly touching on her initiative to help people feel good about themselves through fashion and personal stories.

The discussion also covers how Heidi's approach to content creation mirrors educational techniques, such as engaging storytelling and maintaining relatability to ensure message retention. She emphasizes the importance of making her followers feel seen and heard, a practice that educators can emulate to enhance engagement and learning outcomes in virtual environments.

This episode is particularly enlightening for educators looking to understand the dynamics of audience engagement on digital platforms and how these strategies can be adapted into more formal educational settings to enhance student engagement and learning.

For more insightful discussions on the transformative power of distance learning, follow the podcast, share with colleagues, and explore the detailed show notes linked below for more on Heidi Clements' innovative approaches to digital content and education.

Guest Links:

• Follow Heidi Clements on Instagram
• Follow Heidi Clements on TikTok

Host Links:
1. Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell's CILC.org

2. Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

The discussion also explores the technical and expressive aspects of puppetry, with a spotlight on different puppetry styles like Bunraku and shadow puppets. Sara’s passion for puppetry shines as she describes its educational applications, from teaching history through masks to exploring ecological themes with butterfly puppets.

This episode not only highlights the adaptability of puppetry in education but also resonates with the podcast’s theme of making educational experiences accessible through innovative distance learning methods. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the transformative potential of distance learning, akin to historical advances in public access to knowledge.

For more insightful episodes, follow the podcast, share with friends, and explore the detailed show notes linked below.

Guest Links:
1. Center for Puppetry Arts

Host Links:
1. Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell's CILC.org

2. Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

Laura delves into the unique challenges and successes of teaching arts online, particularly how virtual platforms provide a space where students who may be shy in person can thrive and express themselves more fully. She highlights the adaptations required to create meaningful online interactions and the surprising benefits of distance learning, such as increased tech literacy and connectivity among students.

The discussion also touches on the practicalities and obstacles of teaching music and performing arts online, where synchronicity and shared physical presence are often crucial. Laura shares her experiences with adapting to these challenges, emphasizing the ongoing need for innovation in online arts education.

Wrapping up the episode, Laura reflects on the broader implications of distance learning for accessibility in education. She posits that virtual classrooms can offer a more inclusive environment that accommodates individuals who may face physical and logistical barriers to traditional education settings.

This episode is a compelling look at how creative approaches to education can break down barriers and expand possibilities for all learners. It’s an essential listen for educators, administrators, and anyone interested in the future of inclusive education.

**Guest Links:**
1. PHAME Academy: Explore their groundbreaking approach to arts education for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities. https://www.phamepdx.org/

**Show Links:**
1. Lola: A low latency AV streaming platform that might be recommended for online music classes. https://lola.conts.it/
2. Teach FX: Mentioned in relation to providing feedback on teaching practices. https://teachfx.com/

**Host Links:**
1. Discover more virtual learning opportunities and resources at CILC.org with Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell.
2. Learn how Seth Fleischauer’s Banyan Global Learning leverages technology to enhance educational outcomes for teachers and students alike.

Thor's insights begin with how cognitive psychology informs the development of educational technologies, emphasizing its impact on memory, perception, and motivation. He explains how findings from decades-old psychological research are only now being applied in educational contexts, highlighting a significant delay in adopting these insights. The discussion also tackles the skepticism within educational systems toward new technologies, focusing on the discrepancies in technology perception across different levels of administration.

The conversation takes a critical look at gamification in education, questioning its effectiveness and ethical implications regarding student engagement and motivation. Thor then speculates on future trends, particularly the potential of AI and machine learning to customize learning experiences and assist educators more directly.

Closing the episode, Thor praises the transformative power of distance learning, comparing its potential impact to that of the historic Library of Alexandria in democratizing access to knowledge. He argues that distance learning breaks down barriers that have traditionally restricted educational access and could revolutionize how and when we learn by connecting us more effectively than ever before.

This episode is essential for knowledge seekers keen to understand how the merger of psychology and technology can create more effective learning environments and reshape educational futures. Follow our podcast, share with friends, and leave us a review to help promote the innovative ways technology is revolutionizing education.

Guest Links
1. Clarity Innovations: https://www.clarity-innovations.com/

Show Links
1. Apple Knowledge Navigator Video (1987): https://youtu.be/umJsITGzXd0?si=320aFfGSulg7bSk-
2. Teach FX: https://teachfx.com/

Host Links
1. Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell's CILC.org

2. Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

The discussion highlights real classroom impacts, such as Ross Phillips' integration of these tools into his curriculum, which has significantly enhanced students' understanding of complex issues like immigration and cultural diversity. We also explore the storytelling power of Shared Studios, where participants share their experiences in unique and impactful ways. This episode provides a compelling look at how innovative technologies can transform educational environments into global forums for cultural exchange, preparing students to navigate and influence an interconnected world effectively.

Guest Links:
Shared Studios: https://www.sharedstudios.com/

Host links:
1. Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson MItchell's CILC.org

2. Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

Wendy explains that the program collaborates with teachers from Banyan Global Learning - who provides the lead teachers over live, virtual conference - to deliver a curriculum that not only teaches English, but also integrates cultural awareness. Original curricula cover various stories and themes, such as following a Taiwanese student named Luna as she travels in America and Latin America, with each unit tied to a U.N. Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) and including significant group projects.

The conversation also touches on cultural sensitivity in teaching, particularly around topics like gender equity. Wendy shares an instance where categorizing adjectives by gender proved challenging for Taiwanese students due to cultural differences in gender perception. This leads to discussions on how to redesign activities to better address and teach gender equity, highlighting the importance of cultural context in educational content.

Wendy advocates for strong communication and cooperation between local and distance learning teachers to enrich students' learning experiences and foster global perspectives. She stresses the long-term benefits of understanding and empathy in educational settings, which can significantly impact students' development and worldview.

Guest links
1. Tsai Hsing School - http://english.thsh.tp.edu.tw/
2. Bridges to Prosperity - https://bridgestoprosperity.org/

Host links:
Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson Mitchell's CILC.org

Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

Host links:
Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson MItchell's CILC.org

Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com

Valary's dedication to breaking traditional education molds is evident as she explains her methodologies for making distance learning more engaging and effective. By leveraging her "MacGyver mindset," she encourages educators to utilize available resources creatively and to rethink their approaches to teaching and learning in virtual environments. Her philosophy emphasizes the importance of curiosity, creativity, and the use of technology to foster engaging learning experiences that cater to diverse learning journeys.

Throughout the conversation, Valary shares anecdotes and examples from her work, including her innovative "in and out of the box" thinking exercises and her commitment to volunteerism within the learning community, particularly through her roles at the US Distance Learning Association (USDLA). Her strategies for overcoming challenges in distance education, such as fostering engagement and addressing the fears and reservations of educators new to the virtual format, resonate with the overarching theme of the podcast.

Valary's insights into gamification, the power of choice in learning, and the necessity of adapting to learners' needs underscore the transformative possibilities that distance learning offers. The discussion serves as an inspiration for educators seeking to navigate and excel in the realm of live virtual learning, reinforcing this podcast's mission to explore the medium's dynamic capabilities.

Guest links:
Valary With A Why - https://www.valarywithawhy.com/

Host links:
Browse amazing virtual learning opportunities at Tami Moehring and Allyson MItchell's CILC.org

Seth Fleischauer's  Banyan Global Learning helps schools leverage technology for teacher and student wellness including AI literacy PD for teachers and, for students, live virtual learning experiences in Character Education: banyangloballearning.com