In this episode, Fred shares his journey from pitching a hackathon startup as a 15-year-old high school student in southern Brazil to securing international roles in Singapore and eventually earning a full merit-based scholarship in the United States. Together, Georgie-Ann and Fred unpack the Future of Work, treating yourself as your own business, building personal systems, re-framing rejection, and finding active free will in your everyday life.

In this episode, we cover:

➡️ The true reality of the Future of Work and remote international collaboration

➡️ Why age and location are no longer barriers to finding career opportunities

➡️ How to manage yourself like a company using personal CRMs, principles, and goals

➡️ Dealing with rejection: Why "no" is just a comma, not a full stop

➡️ Balancing adaptability, doom scrolling, and routine as a Gen Z vs. Millennial

➡️ Reclaiming free will in your daily life and becoming a tourist in your own city

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  Programs & Institutions Mentioned:
  • StartingBlock: Social impact entrepreneurship leadership program attended by Georgie-Ann.
  • Merit-Based University Scholarship: Full scholarship program in South Carolina that brought Fred to the US.
• Tools & Platforms Mentioned:
  • Notion: Used by Fred to build his quarterly "Plan Page," tracking goals, KPIs, and principles.
  • ClickUp: Mentioned by Georgie-Ann for project management and file tracking.
  • Google Sheets / Excel: Recommended for building a personal CRM and relationship management system.
  • Reddit / LinkedIn / Facebook: Platforms used for finding scholarships, networking, and initial career connections.

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    Wise / PayPal / Cash App / Zelle / Venmo: Payment methods for remote international contract work.

• (00:00) - Cold Open: Never Say No to Yourself
• (00:21) - Welcome to We Should Talk
• (01:56) - Meet Fred: From Brazil to the US
• (02:39) - How a Facebook Post Connected Us
• (04:13) - The Future of Work & Remote Collaboration
• (05:18) - The Hackathon That Started It All
• (06:22) - Cold Emailing a CEO in Singapore at Age 15
• (09:18) - From Volunteer to Paid Intern
• (10:46) - Self-Management & Identifying Gaps
• (13:26) - Manage Yourself Like a Company
• (16:21) - Long-Term Vision & the Scholarship Discovery
• (18:21) - Free Will: Design Your Own Path
• (22:00) - If There's a Will, There's a Way
• (22:29) - Don't Reject Yourself
• (25:20) - Dealing with Rejection & Building Resilience
• (33:14) - Millennials vs Gen Z: The Resilience Gap
• (34:55) - Adaptability, Doomscrolling & Finding Your Routine
• (39:48) - Document Your System & Run Experiments
• (44:45) - Fred's Closing Words: The World Is Full of Opportunities
• (46:38) - Be a Tourist in Your Own City
• (50:23) - Outro

Is it pompous to sit in first class while your longtime friend and business partner sits in business class, or is it completely normal to keep personal finances separate regardless of net worth? Co-hosts Georgie-Ann and Malcolm invite Financial Advisor Tiff to the show to unpack wealth disparities, friendship etiquette, and the internet's reaction to high-net-worth relationships.

• (00:00) - Cold Open
• (00:39) - Welcome to We Should Talk
• (01:04) - Savannah James & April McDaniel Topic
• (01:41) - Georgianne's Take: Savannah Did Nothing Wrong
• (02:00) - Tiffany: Recognizing Your Class in Friendship
• (03:48) - Malcolm's Take: Maintaining Friendships
• (04:26) - The Reality of Billionaire Wealth
• (05:44) - Malkia's Take: People Projecting on Social Media
• (10:11) - Savannah's Role as a Wife & Mother
• (10:55) - People Don't Understand Money
• (11:39) - Final Thoughts
• (14:56) - Outro

In this episode, we cover:

➡️How AI is shifting student learning outcomes from active thinking to passive outputs
➡️The difference between using AI as a collaborator versus an easy shortcut
➡️Why removing friction from learning impairs critical thinking and resilience
➡️The importance of focusing on proof of process over final deliverables in education
➡️Actionable ways parents can instill discipline, financial literacy, and problem-solving skills at home

GUEST BIO + CONTACT INFO 

Nara Legrand is an educator, entrepreneur, and the Founder and CEO of Legrand Prep, an education company built around a core belief: when students struggle, the answer is not simply more tutoring. It is figuring out why they are struggling in the first place. Her work combines diagnostic assessment, academic instruction, mindset, and executive functioning support to help students become stronger, more independent learners.

With more than 15 years of experience in education and test preparation, Nara has worked with students across K through 12 and college settings and has helped families navigate everything from academic skill gaps to high stakes testing. A two time perfect SAT scorer, she developed the Rhodium Bridge Method, a diagnostic driven approach that addresses not only what students need to learn, but also the mindset, executive functioning skills, and learning habits that influence their performance. More than 92% of Legrand Prep students have reached SAT scores of 1400 or higher, and her students have earned more than $11 million in scholarships.

Nara is a graduate of Columbia University, where she studied Political Science on the pre med track, and has continued her education in Women’s and Gender Studies and cybersecurity. Her work sits at the intersection of education, technology, equity, and the future of learning, with a particular interest in how AI can be used thoughtfully to strengthen critical thinking and meaningful instruction rather than replace them.

As an educator, speaker, and mother, Nara is passionate about reimagining what education can look like when students are taught how to learn, not simply what to memorize. Her larger mission is simple but ambitious: to help fix America’s homework by creating better systems for how students learn, practice, and grow.

Connect with Nara 

Website https://legrandprep.com 

FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100081114817890

IG: https://instagram.com/nailingnumbersnara 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naralegrand/

If your child is preparing for the SAT and needs more than random practice questions, check out the SAT Training Lab by Legrand Prep. Students get a structured SAT study system with more than 90 instructional videos, practice and quizzes, full length tests, progress tracking, and support designed to help them identify what they are getting wrong, understand why, and know what to do next.

Learn more and enroll: https://digitalsat.legrandprep.com/flagship-hybrid-sat-prep-program-page

• (00:00) - Teaser: The Podcast Problem & Intro
• (00:23) - Meet the Hosts & Special Guest Nara LeGrand
• (02:48) - Is AI Making Students Dumber?
• (03:36) - Kid 1 vs. Kid 2: Cheating vs. AI Collaboration
• (04:45) - 80% of Students Use AI for Homework: Where Did Effort Go?
• (07:44) - Lazy Kids or Lack of Resources and Mentorship?
• (10:00) - The Middle Schooler Who Wants AI to Write Her Newspaper Articles
• (12:09) - When Professors Use AI to Grade Papers
• (14:26) - Rethinking Education: Process Over Output
• (16:48) - Why We Need "Friction" and Difficulty to Actually Learn
• (20:04) - The Problem with Protecting Kids from the Struggle
• (24:32) - Why Boredom and Friction Create Better Brains
• (27:26) - How Education Begins at Home: Real Life Lessons
• (30:32) - The Lost Respect for Craft, Technique, and Complexity
• (35:59) - Final Words: Addressing the Literacy Crisis & Asking Better Questions
• (38:58) - Bonus Re-Do: Nara's Real Intro & Wrap Up

In this episode, Georgie-Ann and Malcolm explore:
How social media, dating apps, and AI are altering how we build relationships.
The illusion of options versus true, meaningful human connections.
How dynamic in-person experiences compare to surface-level online interactions.
The rise of parasocial relationships and content culture.
The lost art of mentorship, community building, and long-term networking.

Whether you're an entrepreneur, techie, or someone looking to foster genuine connections, tune in as we open up the floor to conversations that actually matter.

How do you feel about modern social media…is it bringing us closer together or pulling us apart? Leave your thoughts in the comments below! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share this episode with a friend who needs to hear this

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• (00:00) - Preview & Welcome to We Should Talk
• (00:38) - The Backstory: How the Podcast Came to Be
• (02:22) - Why Malcolm Joined as Co-Host (Caribbeans in Tech & Collaboration)
• (04:07) - Shoutout to Gifted Media Productions & 10+ Years of Networking
• (05:39) - Unexpected Ideas & Crazy Career Stories (Professional Bridesmaids & Wedding Officiants)
• (08:34) - Real Connections vs. Social Media Disconnection
• (09:49) - The Decline of Community Mentorship & Real Conversations
• (11:57) - The Illusion of Options in Modern Dating & Networking
• (14:35) - The Juggler Effect: How the Internet Impacts Self-Confidence
• (16:45) - Island Life vs. Big City: Perspective Shifts & Social Media Dopamine
• (18:54) - Multi-Sensory Connection vs. Flat Texting & Parasocial Relationships
• (22:47) - Circles of Support: How Many Connections Do We Really Need?
• (26:55) - Final Thoughts & What's Coming Next on We Should Talk

In the premiere of We Should Talk, Georgie-Ann Getton and Malcolm Paul get into social media, relationships, community, and what genuine human connection looks like today.

Listen to the trailer and join the conversation.