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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid has returned from MicroConf in Denver, and Tyler has made a few important changes at the Calm Company fund. Beyond catching up, Arvid &amp; Tyler chat about how hard it is to stay a contributing member of your business as a founder when you start hiring people.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid has returned from MicroConf in Denver, and Tyler has made a few important changes at the Calm Company fund. Beyond catching up, Arvid &amp; Tyler chat about how hard it is to stay a contributing member of your business as a founder when you start hiring people.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2023 09:58:05 -0700</pubDate>
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      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Host" href="https://linktr.ee/arvidkahl" img="https://img.transistor.fm/47YkUlp6cmRFlD7LC6FoJINcYR8-SJFCek5WMAT_WDE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vYTRmMGVhYWEt/OGUyZC00NzExLWEx/MDYtMDEyMTEyOTQ1/ZGUwLzE2NzgzMDI4/MzYtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Arvid Kahl</podcast:person>
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      <title>Calm Market Analysis</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid &amp; Tyler missed their catchup this week, but they won't let you down: here's an episode from Arvid's Bootstrapped Founder podcast on market analysis for calm SaaS businesses.</p><p>Feel free to support the show here: <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup">https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid &amp; Tyler missed their catchup this week, but they won't let you down: here's an episode from Arvid's Bootstrapped Founder podcast on market analysis for calm SaaS businesses.</p><p>Feel free to support the show here: <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup">https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 07:36:36 -0700</pubDate>
      <author>Tyler Tringas and Arvid Kahl</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid &amp; Tyler missed their catchup this week, but they won't let you down: here's an episode from Arvid's Bootstrapped Founder podcast on market analysis for calm SaaS businesses.</p><p>Feel free to support the show here: <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup">https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Host" href="https://linktr.ee/arvidkahl" img="https://img.transistor.fm/47YkUlp6cmRFlD7LC6FoJINcYR8-SJFCek5WMAT_WDE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vYTRmMGVhYWEt/OGUyZC00NzExLWEx/MDYtMDEyMTEyOTQ1/ZGUwLzE2NzgzMDI4/MzYtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Arvid Kahl</podcast:person>
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      <title>Platform Risk and What to Do About It</title>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>Platform Risk and What to Do About It</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is building a business on a platform like Twitter a good idea? How can calm founders prevent platform risk while also benefiting from the many advantages platforms have?</p><p>This last week has been brutal for indie hackers. Tyler and Arvid talk about how platform risk can threaten your business and what to do about it. </p><p>And, for some reason, they talk about <a href="https://hpmorpodcast.com/">Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality</a>.</p><p>Please leave a rating and a review at <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup">https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Is building a business on a platform like Twitter a good idea? How can calm founders prevent platform risk while also benefiting from the many advantages platforms have?</p><p>This last week has been brutal for indie hackers. Tyler and Arvid talk about how platform risk can threaten your business and what to do about it. </p><p>And, for some reason, they talk about <a href="https://hpmorpodcast.com/">Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality</a>.</p><p>Please leave a rating and a review at <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup">https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2023 11:46:54 -0700</pubDate>
      <author>Tyler Tringas and Arvid Kahl</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is building a business on a platform like Twitter a good idea? How can calm founders prevent platform risk while also benefiting from the many advantages platforms have?</p><p>This last week has been brutal for indie hackers. Tyler and Arvid talk about how platform risk can threaten your business and what to do about it. </p><p>And, for some reason, they talk about <a href="https://hpmorpodcast.com/">Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality</a>.</p><p>Please leave a rating and a review at <a href="https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup">https://ratethispodcast.com/catchup</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Host" href="https://linktr.ee/arvidkahl" img="https://img.transistor.fm/47YkUlp6cmRFlD7LC6FoJINcYR8-SJFCek5WMAT_WDE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vYTRmMGVhYWEt/OGUyZC00NzExLWEx/MDYtMDEyMTEyOTQ1/ZGUwLzE2NzgzMDI4/MzYtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Arvid Kahl</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Calm Under (Legislative) Pressure with Michele Hansen</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today, we have a special guest on the show: <a href="https://twitter.com/mjwhansen">Michele Hansen</a>, co-founder of Geocodio, a SaaS business that provides hassle-free geocoding, author of the very practical book Deploy Empathy, and now an entrepreneurial activist. There is something extremely urgent going on. Michele shares how she is staying calm while facing massively disruptive legislation changes. We chat about what indie businesses can do to be (and stay) resilient under external pressure, what factor physical calmness plays, and how the Calm MBA can incorporate these lessons.</p><p>Our guest: <a href="https://twitter.com/mjwhansen">Michele Hansen</a> of <a href="https://www.geocod.io/">Geocodio</a></p><p>Our shoutout: <a href="https://twitter.com/kellycwilde">Kelly Wilde-Miller</a></p><p>The <a href="https://ssballiance.org/">Small Software Business Alliance</a> — <a href="https://ssballiance.org/#join">sign the coalition letter</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Today, we have a special guest on the show: <a href="https://twitter.com/mjwhansen">Michele Hansen</a>, co-founder of Geocodio, a SaaS business that provides hassle-free geocoding, author of the very practical book Deploy Empathy, and now an entrepreneurial activist. There is something extremely urgent going on. Michele shares how she is staying calm while facing massively disruptive legislation changes. We chat about what indie businesses can do to be (and stay) resilient under external pressure, what factor physical calmness plays, and how the Calm MBA can incorporate these lessons.</p><p>Our guest: <a href="https://twitter.com/mjwhansen">Michele Hansen</a> of <a href="https://www.geocod.io/">Geocodio</a></p><p>Our shoutout: <a href="https://twitter.com/kellycwilde">Kelly Wilde-Miller</a></p><p>The <a href="https://ssballiance.org/">Small Software Business Alliance</a> — <a href="https://ssballiance.org/#join">sign the coalition letter</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2023 11:34:04 -0700</pubDate>
      <author>Tyler Tringas and Arvid Kahl</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today, we have a special guest on the show: <a href="https://twitter.com/mjwhansen">Michele Hansen</a>, co-founder of Geocodio, a SaaS business that provides hassle-free geocoding, author of the very practical book Deploy Empathy, and now an entrepreneurial activist. There is something extremely urgent going on. Michele shares how she is staying calm while facing massively disruptive legislation changes. We chat about what indie businesses can do to be (and stay) resilient under external pressure, what factor physical calmness plays, and how the Calm MBA can incorporate these lessons.</p><p>Our guest: <a href="https://twitter.com/mjwhansen">Michele Hansen</a> of <a href="https://www.geocod.io/">Geocodio</a></p><p>Our shoutout: <a href="https://twitter.com/kellycwilde">Kelly Wilde-Miller</a></p><p>The <a href="https://ssballiance.org/">Small Software Business Alliance</a> — <a href="https://ssballiance.org/#join">sign the coalition letter</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Guest" href="https://deployempathy.com/" img="https://img.transistor.fm/ZpRdQ4rNL8xBehiF2I8v-DREPuxFafB9dA8oBabHw2s/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vNDhhYjQ4YTYt/YjQ1OS00M2E0LWEy/NGUtNjUzZjE5MTU1/ZjY4LzE2ODAxMTQw/NTEtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Michele Hansen</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person role="Host" href="https://linktr.ee/arvidkahl" img="https://img.transistor.fm/47YkUlp6cmRFlD7LC6FoJINcYR8-SJFCek5WMAT_WDE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vYTRmMGVhYWEt/OGUyZC00NzExLWEx/MDYtMDEyMTEyOTQ1/ZGUwLzE2NzgzMDI4/MzYtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Arvid Kahl</podcast:person>
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      <title>What AI Can Do for Bootstrappers</title>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>What AI Can Do for Bootstrappers</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid and Tyler talk about what bootstrappers can do with AI, if it's smart to build a business around AI, and how to do that. They look at indie hackers who are currently benefiting from the gold rush and what we can learn from that. </p><p>Tune in at https://catchup.fm/3</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid and Tyler talk about what bootstrappers can do with AI, if it's smart to build a business around AI, and how to do that. They look at indie hackers who are currently benefiting from the gold rush and what we can learn from that. </p><p>Tune in at https://catchup.fm/3</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:18:02 -0700</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid and Tyler talk about what bootstrappers can do with AI, if it's smart to build a business around AI, and how to do that. They look at indie hackers who are currently benefiting from the gold rush and what we can learn from that. </p><p>Tune in at https://catchup.fm/3</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Host" href="https://linktr.ee/arvidkahl" img="https://img.transistor.fm/47YkUlp6cmRFlD7LC6FoJINcYR8-SJFCek5WMAT_WDE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vYTRmMGVhYWEt/OGUyZC00NzExLWEx/MDYtMDEyMTEyOTQ1/ZGUwLzE2NzgzMDI4/MzYtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Arvid Kahl</podcast:person>
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      <title>Arvid &amp; Tyler Find The Right Words</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid &amp; Tyler talk about the SVB craze, what it means for bootstrappers, and what a calm business is all about.</p><p>They also —finally— have found a name for the pod! In true build-in-public fashion, they share the process behind scoping down the name, why naming things is generally hard, and how that relates to the Calm MBA. The SVB panic makes an appearance, and you'll learn what consequences this has for self-funded entrepreneurs. And you'll find out just how Arvid and Tyler want to integrate calm founders into their collaboration. Hint: the recording booth might get a little crowded.</p><p>If you enjoy the show, you can help by going to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/arvid-tyler-catch-up/id1676699682">Apple Podcast </a>or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/73viWaj9CqDuNwmaO0tmck">Spotify</a> and giving the show a rating and a review. Also, you can let us know what a CALM BUSINESS means to you! Just reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/arvidkahl">Twitter</a>!</p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid &amp; Tyler talk about the SVB craze, what it means for bootstrappers, and what a calm business is all about.</p><p>They also —finally— have found a name for the pod! In true build-in-public fashion, they share the process behind scoping down the name, why naming things is generally hard, and how that relates to the Calm MBA. The SVB panic makes an appearance, and you'll learn what consequences this has for self-funded entrepreneurs. And you'll find out just how Arvid and Tyler want to integrate calm founders into their collaboration. Hint: the recording booth might get a little crowded.</p><p>If you enjoy the show, you can help by going to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/arvid-tyler-catch-up/id1676699682">Apple Podcast </a>or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/73viWaj9CqDuNwmaO0tmck">Spotify</a> and giving the show a rating and a review. Also, you can let us know what a CALM BUSINESS means to you! Just reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/arvidkahl">Twitter</a>!</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 12:32:01 -0700</pubDate>
      <author>Tyler Tringas and Arvid Kahl</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Arvid &amp; Tyler talk about the SVB craze, what it means for bootstrappers, and what a calm business is all about.</p><p>They also —finally— have found a name for the pod! In true build-in-public fashion, they share the process behind scoping down the name, why naming things is generally hard, and how that relates to the Calm MBA. The SVB panic makes an appearance, and you'll learn what consequences this has for self-funded entrepreneurs. And you'll find out just how Arvid and Tyler want to integrate calm founders into their collaboration. Hint: the recording booth might get a little crowded.</p><p>If you enjoy the show, you can help by going to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/arvid-tyler-catch-up/id1676699682">Apple Podcast </a>or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/73viWaj9CqDuNwmaO0tmck">Spotify</a> and giving the show a rating and a review. Also, you can let us know what a CALM BUSINESS means to you! Just reach out on <a href="https://twitter.com/arvidkahl">Twitter</a>!</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Host" href="https://linktr.ee/arvidkahl" img="https://img.transistor.fm/47YkUlp6cmRFlD7LC6FoJINcYR8-SJFCek5WMAT_WDE/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:800/h:800/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9wZXJz/b24vYTRmMGVhYWEt/OGUyZC00NzExLWEx/MDYtMDEyMTEyOTQ1/ZGUwLzE2NzgzMDI4/MzYtaW1hZ2UuanBn.jpg">Arvid Kahl</podcast:person>
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      <title>Arvid &amp; Tyler are Just Getting Started</title>
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      <podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Arvid &amp; Tyler are Just Getting Started</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Without any preparation, Tyler and Arvid dive right into getting started. </p><p>They talk about the Calm MBA, becoming internet friends, how to tackle an educational project, what steps need to be taken to make it happen, and then share their decision-making process right on the show.</p><p>Want to take a peek at how "somewhat established" professionals tackle their work? Tune in —and while you're at it, help us find a name for the show.</p><p>00:00:00 Introducing ourselves and the podcast.</p><p>00:03:47 What is a Calm MBA?</p><p>00:08:20 Building virtual relationships</p><p>00:12:31 Housekeeping for beginners</p><p>00:17:44 Getting it launched</p><p>00:22:47 The importance of recording in the moment for builders-in-public</p><p>00:25:50 Scope, Audience, and Format</p><p>00:30:58 SaaS or Software?</p><p>00:40:09 Do we want a community around the Calm MBA?</p><p>00:44:59 What kind of community?</p><p>00:50:35 Actionable items for next week</p>]]>
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