Think in Cursive Transistor (https://transistor.fm) https://feeds.transistor.fm/think-in-cursive Most people stopped playing the moment life got serious. That was their first mistake. Think in Cursive is a podcast about reclaiming play as a way of thinking — and discovering what becomes possible when you do. Host Brandon Leonard sits down with entrepreneurs, athletes, creatives, and everyday people who are quietly winning by doing things their own way. © 2026 Brandon Leonard 9ec2f2a5-7f82-53fd-a9aa-34b460bfc0e2 yes Brandon Leonard en Mon, 28 Sep 2026 11:24:35 -0400 Mon, 28 Sep 2026 11:25:13 -0400 https://thinkincursive.com https://img.transistorcdn.com/ifLZYUoWM_4mNlP8J2Hb2bOWq70RnQJYMQ2wzL4qmbw/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9kYjVl/NjlhODVlZjg1ODY5/ZTY4NWM0ZTZhZTUz/MTkxOC5qcGc.jpg Think in Cursive https://thinkincursive.com episodic Brandon Leonard Most people stopped playing the moment life got serious. That was their first mistake. Think in Cursive is a podcast about reclaiming play as a way of thinking — and discovering what becomes possible when you do. Host Brandon Leonard sits down with entrepreneurs, athletes, creatives, and everyday people who are quietly winning by doing things their own way. Most people stopped playing the moment life got serious. Philosophy, investment, creative Brandon Leonard brandon@teamgoodhand.com No No Career Change After 30: Is It Time to Quit Your Job? 7 7 Career Change After 30: Is It Time to Quit Your Job? full 97155824-50b7-4b8d-9940-18eb02aa0df9 https://thinkincursive.com/7 Casey Baker built the career many people are told to hold onto: a "safe" and stable job, a clear promotion path, a retirement plan, and more than a decade invested in education. 

Then she found herself crying over whether she could do this job for another 20 years.

🎙️In This Episode...

Casey tells the honest story of why she quit her teaching job, and what happened when she gave herself permission to change direction. We talk about the exact moment that made her question everything, the pressure of being a high achiever, and how easy it is to confuse familiarity with security. 

We get into some bigger questions:
➡️ What happens when your career becomes your identity?
➡️ How do you know when it’s time to leave a job?
➡️ Why do high performers struggle to slow down and rest?
➡️ Can grit become a reason to stay in something that’s hurting you?
➡️ How do you take a career risk when other people depend on you?
➡️ Why do adults, especially men, struggle to create meaningful communities?
➡️ How can we be more present with our families instead of constantly being tethered to our phones and to-do lists?
And what does faith have to do with moving forward when you can’t see what comes next?

Overall, this is a fun, insightful, and genuine conversation about career change, burnout, identity, purpose, entrepreneurship, resilience, and the freedom that comes from realizing you don’t have to stay the person you once decided you would be. 

If you’ve ever thought, “Is this really what I’m supposed to be doing?”, you’ll probably recognize a little of yourself in this conversation.

Creators & Guests

Click here to view the episode transcript.
]]> Casey Baker built the career many people are told to hold onto: a "safe" and stable job, a clear promotion path, a retirement plan, and more than a decade invested in education. 

Then she found herself crying over whether she could do this job for another 20 years.

🎙️In This Episode...

Casey tells the honest story of why she quit her teaching job, and what happened when she gave herself permission to change direction. We talk about the exact moment that made her question everything, the pressure of being a high achiever, and how easy it is to confuse familiarity with security. 

We get into some bigger questions:
➡️ What happens when your career becomes your identity?
➡️ How do you know when it’s time to leave a job?
➡️ Why do high performers struggle to slow down and rest?
➡️ Can grit become a reason to stay in something that’s hurting you?
➡️ How do you take a career risk when other people depend on you?
➡️ Why do adults, especially men, struggle to create meaningful communities?
➡️ How can we be more present with our families instead of constantly being tethered to our phones and to-do lists?
And what does faith have to do with moving forward when you can’t see what comes next?

Overall, this is a fun, insightful, and genuine conversation about career change, burnout, identity, purpose, entrepreneurship, resilience, and the freedom that comes from realizing you don’t have to stay the person you once decided you would be. 

If you’ve ever thought, “Is this really what I’m supposed to be doing?”, you’ll probably recognize a little of yourself in this conversation.

Creators & Guests

Click here to view the episode transcript.
]]> Wed, 23 Sep 2026 06:35:57 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 3883 Casey Baker built the career many people are told to hold onto: a "safe" and stable job, a clear promotion path, a retirement plan, and more than a decade invested in education. 

Then she found herself crying over whether she could do this job for another 20 years.

🎙️In This Episode...

Casey tells the honest story of why she quit her teaching job, and what happened when she gave herself permission to change direction. We talk about the exact moment that made her question everything, the pressure of being a high achiever, and how easy it is to confuse familiarity with security. 

We get into some bigger questions:
➡️ What happens when your career becomes your identity?
➡️ How do you know when it’s time to leave a job?
➡️ Why do high performers struggle to slow down and rest?
➡️ Can grit become a reason to stay in something that’s hurting you?
➡️ How do you take a career risk when other people depend on you?
➡️ Why do adults, especially men, struggle to create meaningful communities?
➡️ How can we be more present with our families instead of constantly being tethered to our phones and to-do lists?
And what does faith have to do with moving forward when you can’t see what comes next?

Overall, this is a fun, insightful, and genuine conversation about career change, burnout, identity, purpose, entrepreneurship, resilience, and the freedom that comes from realizing you don’t have to stay the person you once decided you would be. 

If you’ve ever thought, “Is this really what I’m supposed to be doing?”, you’ll probably recognize a little of yourself in this conversation.

Creators & Guests

Click here to view the episode transcript.
]]> Career change after 30, How to know when to quit your job, Leaving a stable career, Changing careers in your 30s, Career burnout, Career change and identity, High achiever burnout, Finding purpose outside of work, How to overcome fear of change, Starting over in your career No Brandon Leonard Casey Baker The Problem With Always Being “Busy” (And How To Fix It) 6 6 The Problem With Always Being “Busy” (And How To Fix It) full ac518760-99a6-4b97-8633-cf349145cd72 https://thinkincursive.com/6 What happens when you stop chasing performance metrics and give yourself permission to simply play, create, question, and connect?

🎙️In This Episode...

In this wide-ranging, insightful, and fun conversation, Marshall Coats and Brandon Leonard explore creativity, technology, faith, fatherhood, and the messy process of building an authentically meaningful life. They dig into the music industry, the pull of technology, raising kids in a screen-saturated world, finding healthier ways to play, and the importance of getting outside your own head. They also have an honest conversation about faith, questioning traditions, and the tension between institutions and personal values.

At the heart of it all is a simple idea: life gets more interesting when we stay playful and curious instead of trying to chase performance metrics all the time. There's always something to learn when you remain open to other people, new experiences, and the possibility that you don't have all the answers.

🎙️Key Takeaways
1. Why the right environment can unlock creativity.  Marshall shares what producing music has taught him about creating trust, removing self-consciousness, and helping people do their best work.
2. Finding play in an increasingly distracted world. From skateboarding and hiking to stepping away from the phone, the conversation explores why physical experiences, face-to-face connection, and unstructured play still matter and how technology can quietly pull us away from them.
3. Building something authentic and staying willing to question everything. Marshall talks about growing Bombshell Records, collaborating with other artists, and following new creative possibilities while also reflecting on faith, community, and the importance of thinking for yourself.

Creators & Guests

Click here to watch a video of this episode.
]]> What happens when you stop chasing performance metrics and give yourself permission to simply play, create, question, and connect?

🎙️In This Episode...

In this wide-ranging, insightful, and fun conversation, Marshall Coats and Brandon Leonard explore creativity, technology, faith, fatherhood, and the messy process of building an authentically meaningful life. They dig into the music industry, the pull of technology, raising kids in a screen-saturated world, finding healthier ways to play, and the importance of getting outside your own head. They also have an honest conversation about faith, questioning traditions, and the tension between institutions and personal values.

At the heart of it all is a simple idea: life gets more interesting when we stay playful and curious instead of trying to chase performance metrics all the time. There's always something to learn when you remain open to other people, new experiences, and the possibility that you don't have all the answers.

🎙️Key Takeaways
1. Why the right environment can unlock creativity.  Marshall shares what producing music has taught him about creating trust, removing self-consciousness, and helping people do their best work.
2. Finding play in an increasingly distracted world. From skateboarding and hiking to stepping away from the phone, the conversation explores why physical experiences, face-to-face connection, and unstructured play still matter and how technology can quietly pull us away from them.
3. Building something authentic and staying willing to question everything. Marshall talks about growing Bombshell Records, collaborating with other artists, and following new creative possibilities while also reflecting on faith, community, and the importance of thinking for yourself.

Creators & Guests

Click here to watch a video of this episode.
]]> Fri, 18 Sep 2026 09:57:40 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 4194 What happens when you stop chasing performance metrics and give yourself permission to simply play, create, question, and connect?

🎙️In This Episode...

In this wide-ranging, insightful, and fun conversation, Marshall Coats and Brandon Leonard explore creativity, technology, faith, fatherhood, and the messy process of building an authentically meaningful life. They dig into the music industry, the pull of technology, raising kids in a screen-saturated world, finding healthier ways to play, and the importance of getting outside your own head. They also have an honest conversation about faith, questioning traditions, and the tension between institutions and personal values.

At the heart of it all is a simple idea: life gets more interesting when we stay playful and curious instead of trying to chase performance metrics all the time. There's always something to learn when you remain open to other people, new experiences, and the possibility that you don't have all the answers.

🎙️Key Takeaways
1. Why the right environment can unlock creativity.  Marshall shares what producing music has taught him about creating trust, removing self-consciousness, and helping people do their best work.
2. Finding play in an increasingly distracted world. From skateboarding and hiking to stepping away from the phone, the conversation explores why physical experiences, face-to-face connection, and unstructured play still matter and how technology can quietly pull us away from them.
3. Building something authentic and staying willing to question everything. Marshall talks about growing Bombshell Records, collaborating with other artists, and following new creative possibilities while also reflecting on faith, community, and the importance of thinking for yourself.

Creators & Guests

Click here to watch a video of this episode.
]]> meaningful life, finding purpose in life, creativity and personal growth, play and creativity, meaningful relationships, human connection, fatherhood, parenting in the digital age, faith and personal growth, music industry No Brandon Leonard Marshall Coats How to Become an Active Participant in Your Life 5 5 How to Become an Active Participant in Your Life full cee7ecdc-bb87-4284-aeb0-a06c25635fe1 https://thinkincursive.com/5 Now more than ever, choosing to actively participate in your own life is essential to thriving in a world that constantly demands your attention.

In This Episode...

Clark Crosby joins Brandon in the Think in Cursive podcast for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about what it means to "participate" in life. Clark first talks about the idea of him being the "rabbit" instead of the "turtle" which eventually leads into a bigger conversation about participation: getting off the sidelines, creating instead of consuming, spending time with people, and being intentional about how we use our attention.

The discussion moves into real estate and lending, where Clark shares what he's learned from working in mortgages for the past two decades, what people don't see behind a real estate transaction, and why experience and relationships can make such a difference when a deal gets complicated. Clark also talks about the current Atlanta housing market and mortgage rates.

Clark also opens up about losing his grandmothers, wrestling with faith and atheism, finding a deeper sense of connection, and how he actively seeks to participate actively in many aspects of his life such as in work, family, community, and his country.

Key Takeaways

  1. Be an active participant in life. Stop rotting in front of the TV and waiting for life to happen. Actively engage in your relationships, business, profession, community, and that things that matter to you.
  2. You can always reinvent yourself. Part of Clark's story is that he has not threaded a straight, steady path to success. He went through some rough times, especially during his teenage years. He tried many things, including managing a tattoo shop, getting into music, moving to different locations, and working in the corporate world. His willingness to reinvent himself and experiment has opened doors to new opportunities.
  3. You can't control every outcome. Real estate, as with other industries, is full of moving parts, unexpected problems, and emotional reactions. Often, the best thing you can do is to stay calm and do your part, while letting the rest unfold.
  4. Define success in your own terms. Be a famous band member and sing for a huge crowd? Or build a business that allows you to work from home with your family? Success means different things to different people. Define what success means for you and pursue it.
  5. Don’t let fear run your life. Fear often keeps people from starting something new, but taking the first uncomfortable step can create clarity along the way.


This Week’s Guest Bio: Clark Crosby

Clark Crosby is a mortgage broker and loan officer with Success Mortgage Partners. His job is mostly about helping homebuyers and real estate agents figure out the ins and outs of getting a mortgage. Originally from Florida, Clark eventually made his way to Georgia, where he now lives with his wife and kids. He first entered the mortgage industry in 2007 and has spent years working through the many changes in real estate, lending, and the broader housing market. Outside of mortgages, Clark is a husband, father, musician, and someone deeply interested in personal growth, faith, creativity, and living an intentional and engaged life.  In this conversation, Clark brings the perspective of a guy who has tried different paths, changed his mind, taken some wrong turns, but kept moving.

Mentions

Guest: Clark Crosby
Book: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry
Cultural References: Fight Club, The Tortoise and the Hare
Financial Institutions: Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac, Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), Dodd-Frank
People: Kevin Warsh, Jerome Powell, Siamese Dream, Peter Gabriel, Wim Hof, Meister Eckhart, Bob Goff, Brian Johnson
Music: Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Keywords
real estate, mortgage, intentional living, meaningful life, reinventing yourself, entrepreneurship, how to let go of control, hustle culture, slowing down, phone addiction, eliminating hurry, music, relationships, fatherhood, creativity, play

Click here to watch a video of this episode.

Click here to view the episode transcript.

]]> Now more than ever, choosing to actively participate in your own life is essential to thriving in a world that constantly demands your attention.

In This Episode...

Clark Crosby joins Brandon in the Think in Cursive podcast for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about what it means to "participate" in life. Clark first talks about the idea of him being the "rabbit" instead of the "turtle" which eventually leads into a bigger conversation about participation: getting off the sidelines, creating instead of consuming, spending time with people, and being intentional about how we use our attention.

The discussion moves into real estate and lending, where Clark shares what he's learned from working in mortgages for the past two decades, what people don't see behind a real estate transaction, and why experience and relationships can make such a difference when a deal gets complicated. Clark also talks about the current Atlanta housing market and mortgage rates.

Clark also opens up about losing his grandmothers, wrestling with faith and atheism, finding a deeper sense of connection, and how he actively seeks to participate actively in many aspects of his life such as in work, family, community, and his country.

Key Takeaways

  1. Be an active participant in life. Stop rotting in front of the TV and waiting for life to happen. Actively engage in your relationships, business, profession, community, and that things that matter to you.
  2. You can always reinvent yourself. Part of Clark's story is that he has not threaded a straight, steady path to success. He went through some rough times, especially during his teenage years. He tried many things, including managing a tattoo shop, getting into music, moving to different locations, and working in the corporate world. His willingness to reinvent himself and experiment has opened doors to new opportunities.
  3. You can't control every outcome. Real estate, as with other industries, is full of moving parts, unexpected problems, and emotional reactions. Often, the best thing you can do is to stay calm and do your part, while letting the rest unfold.
  4. Define success in your own terms. Be a famous band member and sing for a huge crowd? Or build a business that allows you to work from home with your family? Success means different things to different people. Define what success means for you and pursue it.
  5. Don’t let fear run your life. Fear often keeps people from starting something new, but taking the first uncomfortable step can create clarity along the way.


This Week’s Guest Bio: Clark Crosby

Clark Crosby is a mortgage broker and loan officer with Success Mortgage Partners. His job is mostly about helping homebuyers and real estate agents figure out the ins and outs of getting a mortgage. Originally from Florida, Clark eventually made his way to Georgia, where he now lives with his wife and kids. He first entered the mortgage industry in 2007 and has spent years working through the many changes in real estate, lending, and the broader housing market. Outside of mortgages, Clark is a husband, father, musician, and someone deeply interested in personal growth, faith, creativity, and living an intentional and engaged life.  In this conversation, Clark brings the perspective of a guy who has tried different paths, changed his mind, taken some wrong turns, but kept moving.

Mentions

Guest: Clark Crosby
Book: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry
Cultural References: Fight Club, The Tortoise and the Hare
Financial Institutions: Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac, Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), Dodd-Frank
People: Kevin Warsh, Jerome Powell, Siamese Dream, Peter Gabriel, Wim Hof, Meister Eckhart, Bob Goff, Brian Johnson
Music: Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Keywords
real estate, mortgage, intentional living, meaningful life, reinventing yourself, entrepreneurship, how to let go of control, hustle culture, slowing down, phone addiction, eliminating hurry, music, relationships, fatherhood, creativity, play

Click here to watch a video of this episode.

Click here to view the episode transcript.

]]> Fri, 11 Sep 2026 10:10:39 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 3779 Now more than ever, choosing to actively participate in your own life is essential to thriving in a world that constantly demands your attention.

In This Episode...

Clark Crosby joins Brandon in the Think in Cursive podcast for a wide-ranging, honest conversation about what it means to "participate" in life. Clark first talks about the idea of him being the "rabbit" instead of the "turtle" which eventually leads into a bigger conversation about participation: getting off the sidelines, creating instead of consuming, spending time with people, and being intentional about how we use our attention.

The discussion moves into real estate and lending, where Clark shares what he's learned from working in mortgages for the past two decades, what people don't see behind a real estate transaction, and why experience and relationships can make such a difference when a deal gets complicated. Clark also talks about the current Atlanta housing market and mortgage rates.

Clark also opens up about losing his grandmothers, wrestling with faith and atheism, finding a deeper sense of connection, and how he actively seeks to participate actively in many aspects of his life such as in work, family, community, and his country.

Key Takeaways

  1. Be an active participant in life. Stop rotting in front of the TV and waiting for life to happen. Actively engage in your relationships, business, profession, community, and that things that matter to you.
  2. You can always reinvent yourself. Part of Clark's story is that he has not threaded a straight, steady path to success. He went through some rough times, especially during his teenage years. He tried many things, including managing a tattoo shop, getting into music, moving to different locations, and working in the corporate world. His willingness to reinvent himself and experiment has opened doors to new opportunities.
  3. You can't control every outcome. Real estate, as with other industries, is full of moving parts, unexpected problems, and emotional reactions. Often, the best thing you can do is to stay calm and do your part, while letting the rest unfold.
  4. Define success in your own terms. Be a famous band member and sing for a huge crowd? Or build a business that allows you to work from home with your family? Success means different things to different people. Define what success means for you and pursue it.
  5. Don’t let fear run your life. Fear often keeps people from starting something new, but taking the first uncomfortable step can create clarity along the way.


This Week’s Guest Bio: Clark Crosby

Clark Crosby is a mortgage broker and loan officer with Success Mortgage Partners. His job is mostly about helping homebuyers and real estate agents figure out the ins and outs of getting a mortgage. Originally from Florida, Clark eventually made his way to Georgia, where he now lives with his wife and kids. He first entered the mortgage industry in 2007 and has spent years working through the many changes in real estate, lending, and the broader housing market. Outside of mortgages, Clark is a husband, father, musician, and someone deeply interested in personal growth, faith, creativity, and living an intentional and engaged life.  In this conversation, Clark brings the perspective of a guy who has tried different paths, changed his mind, taken some wrong turns, but kept moving.

Mentions

Guest: Clark Crosby
Book: The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry
Cultural References: Fight Club, The Tortoise and the Hare
Financial Institutions: Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac, Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), Dodd-Frank
People: Kevin Warsh, Jerome Powell, Siamese Dream, Peter Gabriel, Wim Hof, Meister Eckhart, Bob Goff, Brian Johnson
Music: Smashing Pumpkins, Siamese Dream

Keywords
real estate, mortgage, intentional living, meaningful life, reinventing yourself, entrepreneurship, how to let go of control, hustle culture, slowing down, phone addiction, eliminating hurry, music, relationships, fatherhood, creativity, play

Click here to watch a video of this episode.

Click here to view the episode transcript.

]]> real estate, mortgage, intentional living, meaningful life, reinventing yourself, entrepreneurship, how to let go of control, hustle culture, slowing down, phone addiction, eliminating hurry, music, relationships, fatherhood, creativity, play No Brandon Leonard Clark Crosby DON'T RETIRE: An Entrepreneur's Take on Wealth-Building, Parenting, Work, and Play 4 4 DON'T RETIRE: An Entrepreneur's Take on Wealth-Building, Parenting, Work, and Play full 16e405a0-de10-4c81-bbbf-0c041f36305f https://thinkincursive.com/4 In this episode of Think in Cursive podcast, two realtors sit down for a light-hearted, genuine, and fun conversation about much more than real estate. Stacey shares lessons from his years in the industry, from investing and building a team, to learning about taxes, wealth creation, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people.  The conversation also gets personal as we talk about raising kids, family, travelling and the little things that can get pushed to the side when you're busy building a career. We also ponder about the idea of not retiring, but rather rewiring...that is, to keep on working, learning, and making room for new experiences that make life worth living. There’s real estate. There’s wealth-building. There’s a little talk about Costa Rica. There’s plenty of joking around. This one's a good one!


This Week’s Guest: Stacey Wyatt
Stacey Wyatt is an engineer, real estate investor, team leader, father, husband, and entrepreneur who has spent years building businesses, investing in real estate, and learning what it takes to build long-term wealth. In this conversation, Stacey shares some of what he’s learned along his journey: from growing a real estate business and building the right team to investing, taxes, wealth creation, legacy, health, family, and why he doesn’t really want to “retire” so much as rewire.

Think in Cursive Podcast
Think in Cursive explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live. Because life is about more than work, achievement, and checking the next box. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and come hang out with us.

]]> In this episode of Think in Cursive podcast, two realtors sit down for a light-hearted, genuine, and fun conversation about much more than real estate. Stacey shares lessons from his years in the industry, from investing and building a team, to learning about taxes, wealth creation, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people.  The conversation also gets personal as we talk about raising kids, family, travelling and the little things that can get pushed to the side when you're busy building a career. We also ponder about the idea of not retiring, but rather rewiring...that is, to keep on working, learning, and making room for new experiences that make life worth living. There’s real estate. There’s wealth-building. There’s a little talk about Costa Rica. There’s plenty of joking around. This one's a good one!


This Week’s Guest: Stacey Wyatt
Stacey Wyatt is an engineer, real estate investor, team leader, father, husband, and entrepreneur who has spent years building businesses, investing in real estate, and learning what it takes to build long-term wealth. In this conversation, Stacey shares some of what he’s learned along his journey: from growing a real estate business and building the right team to investing, taxes, wealth creation, legacy, health, family, and why he doesn’t really want to “retire” so much as rewire.

Think in Cursive Podcast
Think in Cursive explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live. Because life is about more than work, achievement, and checking the next box. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and come hang out with us.

]]> Fri, 04 Sep 2026 13:23:56 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 3609 In this episode of Think in Cursive podcast, two realtors sit down for a light-hearted, genuine, and fun conversation about much more than real estate. Stacey shares lessons from his years in the industry, from investing and building a team, to learning about taxes, wealth creation, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people.  The conversation also gets personal as we talk about raising kids, family, travelling and the little things that can get pushed to the side when you're busy building a career. We also ponder about the idea of not retiring, but rather rewiring...that is, to keep on working, learning, and making room for new experiences that make life worth living. There’s real estate. There’s wealth-building. There’s a little talk about Costa Rica. There’s plenty of joking around. This one's a good one!


This Week’s Guest: Stacey Wyatt
Stacey Wyatt is an engineer, real estate investor, team leader, father, husband, and entrepreneur who has spent years building businesses, investing in real estate, and learning what it takes to build long-term wealth. In this conversation, Stacey shares some of what he’s learned along his journey: from growing a real estate business and building the right team to investing, taxes, wealth creation, legacy, health, family, and why he doesn’t really want to “retire” so much as rewire.

Think in Cursive Podcast
Think in Cursive explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live. Because life is about more than work, achievement, and checking the next box. So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and come hang out with us.

]]> Philosophy, investment, creative No Stacey Wyatt Brandon Leonard The 3 Things That Can Destroy a Man’s Life | Pastor Ross on Faith, Marriage, Parenting, and the Slow Work of Becoming 3 3 The 3 Things That Can Destroy a Man’s Life | Pastor Ross on Faith, Marriage, Parenting, and the Slow Work of Becoming full fd7d9c2d-3421-4f0e-ac5d-1a23dad579a4 https://thinkincursive.com/3 In this episode of Think in Cursive, Brandon Leonard sits down with Pastor Ross Wiseman of Momentum Church in Woodstock, Georgia, for an honest conversation about faith, success, marriage, parenting, leadership, burnout, and the slow work of becoming.

Together, they explore...


The three things that can destroy a man's life: gold, glory, and girls. Ross opens up about the dangers of money, recognition, power, and sexual temptation, and why success without character can become dangerous.


Why your family shouldn't be your fan base. Ross and Brandon talk about marriage, conflict, staying grounded, and the importance of maintaining healthy relationships with the closest people in your life.


Why slow growth might be exactly what you need. Ross reflects on building Momentum Church, the frustration of watching something grow more slowly than expected, and how the years of slow growth were also years of becoming - slowly becoming a better pastor, leader, husband, and person.

This Week’s Guest: Ross Wiseman
Ross Wiseman is the pastor and founding leader of Momentum Church in Woodstock, Georgia. He has spent more than three decades in ministry and has experienced the highs and challenges that come with building something from the ground up. His story includes running from his calling as a young man, finding his way back to ministry, planting a church, navigating leadership and success, and learning what it means to build a life and character strong enough to carry the responsibility that comes with influence.

About Think in Cursive Podcast
Think in Cursive podcast explores what it means to build a meaningful life while staying curious, playful, and fully engaged in the process. Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, Brandon explores the questions underneath work, success, relationships, identity, and the lives we're trying to build.

]]> In this episode of Think in Cursive, Brandon Leonard sits down with Pastor Ross Wiseman of Momentum Church in Woodstock, Georgia, for an honest conversation about faith, success, marriage, parenting, leadership, burnout, and the slow work of becoming.

Together, they explore...


The three things that can destroy a man's life: gold, glory, and girls. Ross opens up about the dangers of money, recognition, power, and sexual temptation, and why success without character can become dangerous.


Why your family shouldn't be your fan base. Ross and Brandon talk about marriage, conflict, staying grounded, and the importance of maintaining healthy relationships with the closest people in your life.


Why slow growth might be exactly what you need. Ross reflects on building Momentum Church, the frustration of watching something grow more slowly than expected, and how the years of slow growth were also years of becoming - slowly becoming a better pastor, leader, husband, and person.

This Week’s Guest: Ross Wiseman
Ross Wiseman is the pastor and founding leader of Momentum Church in Woodstock, Georgia. He has spent more than three decades in ministry and has experienced the highs and challenges that come with building something from the ground up. His story includes running from his calling as a young man, finding his way back to ministry, planting a church, navigating leadership and success, and learning what it means to build a life and character strong enough to carry the responsibility that comes with influence.

About Think in Cursive Podcast
Think in Cursive podcast explores what it means to build a meaningful life while staying curious, playful, and fully engaged in the process. Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, Brandon explores the questions underneath work, success, relationships, identity, and the lives we're trying to build.

]]> Fri, 28 Aug 2026 14:42:18 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 2679 In this episode of Think in Cursive, Brandon Leonard sits down with Pastor Ross Wiseman of Momentum Church in Woodstock, Georgia, for an honest conversation about faith, success, marriage, parenting, leadership, burnout, and the slow work of becoming.

Together, they explore...


The three things that can destroy a man's life: gold, glory, and girls. Ross opens up about the dangers of money, recognition, power, and sexual temptation, and why success without character can become dangerous.


Why your family shouldn't be your fan base. Ross and Brandon talk about marriage, conflict, staying grounded, and the importance of maintaining healthy relationships with the closest people in your life.


Why slow growth might be exactly what you need. Ross reflects on building Momentum Church, the frustration of watching something grow more slowly than expected, and how the years of slow growth were also years of becoming - slowly becoming a better pastor, leader, husband, and person.

This Week’s Guest: Ross Wiseman
Ross Wiseman is the pastor and founding leader of Momentum Church in Woodstock, Georgia. He has spent more than three decades in ministry and has experienced the highs and challenges that come with building something from the ground up. His story includes running from his calling as a young man, finding his way back to ministry, planting a church, navigating leadership and success, and learning what it means to build a life and character strong enough to carry the responsibility that comes with influence.

About Think in Cursive Podcast
Think in Cursive podcast explores what it means to build a meaningful life while staying curious, playful, and fully engaged in the process. Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, Brandon explores the questions underneath work, success, relationships, identity, and the lives we're trying to build.

]]> Think in Cursive Pastor Ross Wiseman Ross Wiseman Momentum Church Christian podcast faith podcast personal growth podcast personal development podcast meaningful life finding your purpose life purpose becoming a better person personal growth self improvement success and character leadership podcast Christian leadership marriage podcast healthy marriage parenting podcast fatherhood raising resilient kids burnout work life balance success personal transformation building a meaningful life slow growth character development purpose and success No Ross Wiseman Brandon Leonard We're Consuming Too Much, and It's Killing Our Creativity 2 2 We're Consuming Too Much, and It's Killing Our Creativity full 23cc1f15-aa26-4b72-8fcb-d41e0b1ed9ee https://thinkincursive.com/2 What happens to creativity when we have more to consume than ever before?

In this episode of Think in Cursive, Brandon sits down with longtime friend Russ McLaughlin for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, music, parenting, attention, technology, and the art of staying curious in a world that never seems to slow down.

They talk about what happens when we spend more time consuming than creating, and how smartphones, social media, and artificial intelligence are changing the way we listen, think, make music, and experience the world around us.

The conversation gets personal as they talk about artistic identity, the fear of failure, learning to listen, raising kids in a distracted world, and finding ways to keep creativity and play alive when life starts feeling more like work.

This Week’s Guest: Russ McLaughlin

Russ is an Atlanta-based music producer, musician, songwriter, teacher, and studio owner. He is the founder of Galaxy Music and Arts Academy, where he teaches private music lessons and group classes while helping students develop their skills and find their own creative voice.

His experience spans live performance, songwriting, music production, teaching, and the business of making a living as a working musician. You can learn more about Russ and his creative work at itsruss.com.

About Think in Cursive Podcast

We spend so much of our lives working, achieving, building, and chasing the next thing. But somewhere along the way, we can forget how to slow down, stay curious, and actually enjoy the life we're building.

Think in Cursive explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live.

Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, we go deeper than the usual success stories and explore the questions underneath them:

What makes a meaningful life?
How do we stay curious?
Who are we when our work is no longer our identity?
And why does play matter more as we get older?

]]> What happens to creativity when we have more to consume than ever before?

In this episode of Think in Cursive, Brandon sits down with longtime friend Russ McLaughlin for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, music, parenting, attention, technology, and the art of staying curious in a world that never seems to slow down.

They talk about what happens when we spend more time consuming than creating, and how smartphones, social media, and artificial intelligence are changing the way we listen, think, make music, and experience the world around us.

The conversation gets personal as they talk about artistic identity, the fear of failure, learning to listen, raising kids in a distracted world, and finding ways to keep creativity and play alive when life starts feeling more like work.

This Week’s Guest: Russ McLaughlin

Russ is an Atlanta-based music producer, musician, songwriter, teacher, and studio owner. He is the founder of Galaxy Music and Arts Academy, where he teaches private music lessons and group classes while helping students develop their skills and find their own creative voice.

His experience spans live performance, songwriting, music production, teaching, and the business of making a living as a working musician. You can learn more about Russ and his creative work at itsruss.com.

About Think in Cursive Podcast

We spend so much of our lives working, achieving, building, and chasing the next thing. But somewhere along the way, we can forget how to slow down, stay curious, and actually enjoy the life we're building.

Think in Cursive explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live.

Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, we go deeper than the usual success stories and explore the questions underneath them:

What makes a meaningful life?
How do we stay curious?
Who are we when our work is no longer our identity?
And why does play matter more as we get older?

]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2026 10:25:28 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 3554 What happens to creativity when we have more to consume than ever before?

In this episode of Think in Cursive, Brandon sits down with longtime friend Russ McLaughlin for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, music, parenting, attention, technology, and the art of staying curious in a world that never seems to slow down.

They talk about what happens when we spend more time consuming than creating, and how smartphones, social media, and artificial intelligence are changing the way we listen, think, make music, and experience the world around us.

The conversation gets personal as they talk about artistic identity, the fear of failure, learning to listen, raising kids in a distracted world, and finding ways to keep creativity and play alive when life starts feeling more like work.

This Week’s Guest: Russ McLaughlin

Russ is an Atlanta-based music producer, musician, songwriter, teacher, and studio owner. He is the founder of Galaxy Music and Arts Academy, where he teaches private music lessons and group classes while helping students develop their skills and find their own creative voice.

His experience spans live performance, songwriting, music production, teaching, and the business of making a living as a working musician. You can learn more about Russ and his creative work at itsruss.com.

About Think in Cursive Podcast

We spend so much of our lives working, achieving, building, and chasing the next thing. But somewhere along the way, we can forget how to slow down, stay curious, and actually enjoy the life we're building.

Think in Cursive explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live.

Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, we go deeper than the usual success stories and explore the questions underneath them:

What makes a meaningful life?
How do we stay curious?
Who are we when our work is no longer our identity?
And why does play matter more as we get older?

]]> Philosophy, investment, creative No Russ McLaughlin Brandon Leonard YOU MADE IT… NOW WHAT? Why High Achievers Feel Empty After They “Make It” 1 1 YOU MADE IT… NOW WHAT? Why High Achievers Feel Empty After They “Make It” full 393a0fba-d14b-4cbe-b7db-076cb3b79c34 https://thinkincursive.com/1 What happens when you finally achieve the things you thought would make you happy, career success, financial security, recognition, influence, and still find yourself asking, “Is this it?”

In this episode, we take a deeper look at the uncomfortable side of success: what happens when your career becomes your identity, when chasing the next goal becomes a way of life, and when the things you worked so hard to achieve no longer feel as meaningful as they once did.

The conversation goes beyond money and career. We talk about purpose, retirement, fear, leadership, relationships, vulnerability, and the importance of play and curiosity and why successful people can become so focused on winning that they forget how to actually live.

We also explore what it means to step outside the roles and expectations that define us, create deeper connections with the people around us, and stop measuring our lives solely by what we accomplish.

🎙️This Week's Guest: Von Wright
Von Wright is a husband, father, grandfather, longtime business leader, coach, and entrepreneur with more than three decades of experience across technology, consulting, strategy, and large-scale IT operations. He has been a partner in a Global Five consultancy and has spent much of his career helping organizations navigate change and rethink what's possible.

Today, Von focuses on Second Half Coaching and Lifters of Men, an initiative dedicated to helping men strengthen their hearts and souls so they can positively impact the lives of others. His perspective on success, purpose, leadership, and what it means to live a meaningful life comes from years of experience and from learning to question the rules rather than simply follow them.

🎙️About Think in Cursive Podcast
We spend so much of our lives working, achieving, building, and chasing the next thing. But somewhere along the way, we can forget how to slow down, stay curious, and actually enjoy the life we're building.

Think in Cursive podcast explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live.

Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, we go deeper than the usual success stories, exploring the questions underneath them: What makes a meaningful life? How do we stay curious Who are we when our work is no longer our identity? And why does play matter more as we get older?

]]> What happens when you finally achieve the things you thought would make you happy, career success, financial security, recognition, influence, and still find yourself asking, “Is this it?”

In this episode, we take a deeper look at the uncomfortable side of success: what happens when your career becomes your identity, when chasing the next goal becomes a way of life, and when the things you worked so hard to achieve no longer feel as meaningful as they once did.

The conversation goes beyond money and career. We talk about purpose, retirement, fear, leadership, relationships, vulnerability, and the importance of play and curiosity and why successful people can become so focused on winning that they forget how to actually live.

We also explore what it means to step outside the roles and expectations that define us, create deeper connections with the people around us, and stop measuring our lives solely by what we accomplish.

🎙️This Week's Guest: Von Wright
Von Wright is a husband, father, grandfather, longtime business leader, coach, and entrepreneur with more than three decades of experience across technology, consulting, strategy, and large-scale IT operations. He has been a partner in a Global Five consultancy and has spent much of his career helping organizations navigate change and rethink what's possible.

Today, Von focuses on Second Half Coaching and Lifters of Men, an initiative dedicated to helping men strengthen their hearts and souls so they can positively impact the lives of others. His perspective on success, purpose, leadership, and what it means to live a meaningful life comes from years of experience and from learning to question the rules rather than simply follow them.

🎙️About Think in Cursive Podcast
We spend so much of our lives working, achieving, building, and chasing the next thing. But somewhere along the way, we can forget how to slow down, stay curious, and actually enjoy the life we're building.

Think in Cursive podcast explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live.

Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, we go deeper than the usual success stories, exploring the questions underneath them: What makes a meaningful life? How do we stay curious Who are we when our work is no longer our identity? And why does play matter more as we get older?

]]> Wed, 05 Aug 2026 05:28:28 -0400 Brandon Leonard Watch on YouTube Brandon Leonard 3666 What happens when you finally achieve the things you thought would make you happy, career success, financial security, recognition, influence, and still find yourself asking, “Is this it?”

In this episode, we take a deeper look at the uncomfortable side of success: what happens when your career becomes your identity, when chasing the next goal becomes a way of life, and when the things you worked so hard to achieve no longer feel as meaningful as they once did.

The conversation goes beyond money and career. We talk about purpose, retirement, fear, leadership, relationships, vulnerability, and the importance of play and curiosity and why successful people can become so focused on winning that they forget how to actually live.

We also explore what it means to step outside the roles and expectations that define us, create deeper connections with the people around us, and stop measuring our lives solely by what we accomplish.

🎙️This Week's Guest: Von Wright
Von Wright is a husband, father, grandfather, longtime business leader, coach, and entrepreneur with more than three decades of experience across technology, consulting, strategy, and large-scale IT operations. He has been a partner in a Global Five consultancy and has spent much of his career helping organizations navigate change and rethink what's possible.

Today, Von focuses on Second Half Coaching and Lifters of Men, an initiative dedicated to helping men strengthen their hearts and souls so they can positively impact the lives of others. His perspective on success, purpose, leadership, and what it means to live a meaningful life comes from years of experience and from learning to question the rules rather than simply follow them.

🎙️About Think in Cursive Podcast
We spend so much of our lives working, achieving, building, and chasing the next thing. But somewhere along the way, we can forget how to slow down, stay curious, and actually enjoy the life we're building.

Think in Cursive podcast explores the role of play in daily life and what it can teach us about how we work, lead, create, connect, and live.

Through honest conversations with thinkers and doers, we go deeper than the usual success stories, exploring the questions underneath them: What makes a meaningful life? How do we stay curious Who are we when our work is no longer our identity? And why does play matter more as we get older?

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