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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>William Hocking sits down with his  wife’s (Maria) uncle</strong> <strong>Vinny Rojo, an Air Force veteran of twenty two years, for a conversation about discipline, respect, and why the guy standing next to you might be the most important person in your life.</strong> </p><p>Vinny did not plan to enlist. He and two buddies were walking past a recruiting station at Borough Hall in Brooklyn when one of them said, let's go in and see what happens. The Air Force turned Vinny down that day. He rode along with his friend to Whitehall Street anyway, raised his right hand, and became the first of the three to serve. </p><p>He stayed in for twenty two years and came home a disabled veteran. In this episode he tells Bill what the Air Force actually taught him, not the version you read in a training manual but the real one. Why discipline is not about yelling. Why respect is something you show everyone, not just yourself. Why the guy standing next to you might be the whole point of the whole thing. </p><p>Bill grew up in the Vietnam era but never wore the uniform, and he says so. This conversation is his attempt to understand what he missed. Pull up a chair. </p><p>Tune in to hear what a lifetime of living and twenty two years in the Air Force taught Vinny Rojo about showing up for the person beside you. </p><p><strong>Chapters</strong>:<br>🎙️ 00:17 For more podcasts like this, check out <a href="http://www.podcastsmatter.com">www.podcastsmatter.com</a>.</p><p>👋 01:56 Meet Vinny Rojo</p><p>🇪🇸 02:55 Named after a general in Spain </p><p>✈️ 03:15 Twenty two years of service and a lot of good people </p><p>🤝 06:01 The guy next to you is the one whose life you trust </p><p>💪 09:02 You feel invincible until the service teaches you otherwise </p><p>📖 10:20 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at <a href="http://www.booksthatmatter.org">www.booksthatmatter.org</a> </p><p>🙏 10:23 Respect is something you show everyone, not just yourself </p><p>🎖️ 11:05 No regrets and a family that served </p><p>🏙️ 13:11 Three friends, a recruiting station, and a walk to Whitehall Street </p><p>✌️ 15:06 Don't look down unless you drop something </p><p>Connect with Bill: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b">www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b</a><br>Publish a Book That Matters: <a href="http://booksthatmatter.org/">http://booksthatmatter.org</a><br>Start a Podcast That Matters: <a href="http://podcastsmatter.com/">http://podcastsmatter.com</a><br>Go from Expert to Thought Leader: <a href="http://geniusdiscovery.org/">http://geniusdiscovery.org</a> </p><p> Au revoir!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>William Hocking sits down with his  wife’s (Maria) uncle</strong> <strong>Vinny Rojo, an Air Force veteran of twenty two years, for a conversation about discipline, respect, and why the guy standing next to you might be the most important person in your life.</strong> </p><p>Vinny did not plan to enlist. He and two buddies were walking past a recruiting station at Borough Hall in Brooklyn when one of them said, let's go in and see what happens. The Air Force turned Vinny down that day. He rode along with his friend to Whitehall Street anyway, raised his right hand, and became the first of the three to serve. </p><p>He stayed in for twenty two years and came home a disabled veteran. In this episode he tells Bill what the Air Force actually taught him, not the version you read in a training manual but the real one. Why discipline is not about yelling. Why respect is something you show everyone, not just yourself. Why the guy standing next to you might be the whole point of the whole thing. </p><p>Bill grew up in the Vietnam era but never wore the uniform, and he says so. This conversation is his attempt to understand what he missed. Pull up a chair. </p><p>Tune in to hear what a lifetime of living and twenty two years in the Air Force taught Vinny Rojo about showing up for the person beside you. </p><p><strong>Chapters</strong>:<br>🎙️ 00:17 For more podcasts like this, check out <a href="http://www.podcastsmatter.com">www.podcastsmatter.com</a>.</p><p>👋 01:56 Meet Vinny Rojo</p><p>🇪🇸 02:55 Named after a general in Spain </p><p>✈️ 03:15 Twenty two years of service and a lot of good people </p><p>🤝 06:01 The guy next to you is the one whose life you trust </p><p>💪 09:02 You feel invincible until the service teaches you otherwise </p><p>📖 10:20 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at <a href="http://www.booksthatmatter.org">www.booksthatmatter.org</a> </p><p>🙏 10:23 Respect is something you show everyone, not just yourself </p><p>🎖️ 11:05 No regrets and a family that served </p><p>🏙️ 13:11 Three friends, a recruiting station, and a walk to Whitehall Street </p><p>✌️ 15:06 Don't look down unless you drop something </p><p>Connect with Bill: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b">www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b</a><br>Publish a Book That Matters: <a href="http://booksthatmatter.org/">http://booksthatmatter.org</a><br>Start a Podcast That Matters: <a href="http://podcastsmatter.com/">http://podcastsmatter.com</a><br>Go from Expert to Thought Leader: <a href="http://geniusdiscovery.org/">http://geniusdiscovery.org</a> </p><p> Au revoir!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>William Hocking and his closest friend of fifty two years, Dave Stutzman, kick off The William Hocking Podcast with a conversation about friendship and what it actually takes to keep one alive for half a century.<br></strong><br></p><p>In this debut episode of The William Hocking Podcast, William welcomes Dave for a candid, unscripted conversation about why he thinks friendship is the whole point.</p><p>They met in August 1973 at the University of Maryland. The story involves a tie dyed shirt, a Fu Manchu mustache, and a Frisbee that nearly took Bill's head off. They have been talking almost every day since.</p><p>Fifty two years of friendship does not happen by accident. Bill and Dave get into what keeps it going and what almost broke it. They talk about why they never let a disagreement end something that took decades to build.</p><p>Tune in to hear what two guys from Maryland learned about loyalty and showing up over fifty two years of friendship.</p><p><strong>Chapters</strong>:<br> 🎙️ 00:17 For a podcast just like this one reach out to <a href="http://www.podcastsmatter.com">www.podcastsmatter.com</a> or find more at <a href="http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org">www.podcaststhatmatter.org</a> <br>👋 00:47 Meet Dave Stutzman: fifty two years and counting <br>🎓 03:39 Silver Spring, Laurel, and a fateful Monday at the University of Maryland <br>👕 07:59 Tie dyed shirt, Fu Manchu mustache, two books, and a Frisbee that almost hit Bill in the head <br>📚 11:56 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at <a href="http://www.booksthatmatter.org">www.booksthatmatter.org</a>  <br>💪 14:50 Why friendships take real work and why most people stop doing it <br>🤝 16:28 Disagreements that went too far and why they came back anyway <br>🌟 18:07 If you are a leader or changemaker looking for support, check out <a href="http://www.geniusdiscovery.org">www.geniusdiscovery.org</a> <br>🏛️ 19:50 Politics and friendship: knowing when to table it <br>😂 23:50 The NAD day: No Abuse Day and why it does not always work <br>🙏 25:19 Fifty two years of showing up and what comes next <br>🎧 28:29 Find more podcasts that matter at <a href="http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org">www.podcaststhatmatter.org</a> </p><p><br><strong>Links</strong>:<br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-stutzman-3b272116">www.linkedin.com/in/dave-stutzman-3b272116</a><br> Connect with Dave Stutzman on LinkedIn. He may not have had a class that morning in 1973, but fifty two years later he is still showing up. <br> </p><p>Connect with Bill: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b">www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b</a> <br>Publish a Book That Matters: <a href="http://booksthatmatter.org/">http://booksthatmatter.org</a><br>Start a Podcast That Matters: <a href="http://podcastsmatter.com/">http://podcastsmatter.com</a><br>Go from Expert to Thought Leader: <a href="http://geniusdiscovery.org/">http://geniusdiscovery.org</a> </p><p> Au revoir!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>William Hocking and his closest friend of fifty two years, Dave Stutzman, kick off The William Hocking Podcast with a conversation about friendship and what it actually takes to keep one alive for half a century.<br></strong><br></p><p>In this debut episode of The William Hocking Podcast, William welcomes Dave for a candid, unscripted conversation about why he thinks friendship is the whole point.</p><p>They met in August 1973 at the University of Maryland. The story involves a tie dyed shirt, a Fu Manchu mustache, and a Frisbee that nearly took Bill's head off. They have been talking almost every day since.</p><p>Fifty two years of friendship does not happen by accident. Bill and Dave get into what keeps it going and what almost broke it. They talk about why they never let a disagreement end something that took decades to build.</p><p>Tune in to hear what two guys from Maryland learned about loyalty and showing up over fifty two years of friendship.</p><p><strong>Chapters</strong>:<br> 🎙️ 00:17 For a podcast just like this one reach out to <a href="http://www.podcastsmatter.com">www.podcastsmatter.com</a> or find more at <a href="http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org">www.podcaststhatmatter.org</a> <br>👋 00:47 Meet Dave Stutzman: fifty two years and counting <br>🎓 03:39 Silver Spring, Laurel, and a fateful Monday at the University of Maryland <br>👕 07:59 Tie dyed shirt, Fu Manchu mustache, two books, and a Frisbee that almost hit Bill in the head <br>📚 11:56 Find support for writing your impact-driven book at <a href="http://www.booksthatmatter.org">www.booksthatmatter.org</a>  <br>💪 14:50 Why friendships take real work and why most people stop doing it <br>🤝 16:28 Disagreements that went too far and why they came back anyway <br>🌟 18:07 If you are a leader or changemaker looking for support, check out <a href="http://www.geniusdiscovery.org">www.geniusdiscovery.org</a> <br>🏛️ 19:50 Politics and friendship: knowing when to table it <br>😂 23:50 The NAD day: No Abuse Day and why it does not always work <br>🙏 25:19 Fifty two years of showing up and what comes next <br>🎧 28:29 Find more podcasts that matter at <a href="http://www.podcaststhatmatter.org">www.podcaststhatmatter.org</a> </p><p><br><strong>Links</strong>:<br>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-stutzman-3b272116">www.linkedin.com/in/dave-stutzman-3b272116</a><br> Connect with Dave Stutzman on LinkedIn. He may not have had a class that morning in 1973, but fifty two years later he is still showing up. <br> </p><p>Connect with Bill: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b">www.linkedin.com/in/bill-hocking-35165b</a> <br>Publish a Book That Matters: <a href="http://booksthatmatter.org/">http://booksthatmatter.org</a><br>Start a Podcast That Matters: <a href="http://podcastsmatter.com/">http://podcastsmatter.com</a><br>Go from Expert to Thought Leader: <a href="http://geniusdiscovery.org/">http://geniusdiscovery.org</a> </p><p> Au revoir!</p>]]>
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