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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Sabrina Ruiz-Monroy sits down with Abby M. Dizon-Maughan, a shareholder and accomplished commercial litigator, to discuss her journey as the daughter of hardworking immigrant parents to becoming a respected leader in Utah’s legal community. Abby shares how navigating the educational system as a first-generation American, working in law firms for a decade before law school, and attending the University of Utah S.J. Quinney College of Law as a non-traditional student shaped her path to practice.</p><p>She reflects on rejecting imposter syndrome, disrupting the status quo as a woman of color in high-stakes litigation, and building a reputation rooted in excellence, humility, and resilience. Abby also speaks candidly about burnout, mentorship, creating community in spaces that weren’t designed for her, and balancing the demands of trial work with family life.</p><p>Whether you’re a pre-law student, a law student seeking belonging, or an aspiring attorney, this episode offers an honest and empowering look at perseverance and advocacy.</p><p>🎙️ Created by the Utah Center for Legal Inclusion<br>📍 Brought to you by Utah Podcast Studio<br>🔗 Learn more: utahcli.org</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, host Sabrina Ruiz-Monroy sits down with Eli Leggett, an associate attorney at Strong &amp; Hanni, to talk about his journey from being a first-generation college student on the East Coast to practicing law in Utah. Eli shares how his background shaped his approach to law school and his legal career.</p><p>With candor and humor, Eli reflects on why he didn’t love law school, what helped him persist anyway, and how clerkships, leadership roles, and moving across states influenced his professional growth. Whether you’re a pre-law student, a first-generation applicant, or someone curious about what early legal practice really looks like, this episode offers an honest look at navigating the path into law. </p><p>🎙️ Created by the Utah Center for Legal Inclusion (UCLI)<br>📍 Brought to you by the Utah Podcast Studio<br>🔗 Learn more: utahcli.org</p>]]>
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