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        <![CDATA[<p>In Episode 3 of The Starting Block, Head of Multimedia at The Block Gareth Jenkinson is joined by Joseph Lubin, co-founder of Ethereum and CEO of ConsenSys at Consensus Miami. Lubin shares insights on Ethereum's ecosystem, innovation, Layer 2 scaling, DeFi security, and the future of blockchain technology, including AI and quantum threats.</p><p><strong>OUTLINE</strong><br>00:00 - Introduction<br>02:25 - Future of DATs<br>06:10 - KelpDAO Exploit &amp; DeFi<br>09:13 - Linea &amp; Layer-2s<br>13:08 - Synchronous Composability<br>16:30 - AI Agents Onchain<br>18:05 - Quantum Threat to Crypto</p><p><strong>Guest links:</strong><br>Joseph Lubin - <a href="https://x.com/ethereumJoseph">https://x.com/ethereumJoseph</a><br>Consensys - <a href="https://x.com/Consensys">https://x.com/Consensys</a></p><p><strong>Host links</strong>:<br>Gareth Jenkinson - <a href="https://x.com/gazza_jenks">https://x.com/gazza_jenks</a><br>The Block - <a href="https://x.com/TheBlockCo">https://x.com/TheBlockCo</a><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters</strong>!</p><p>🚨 Breaking News<br>👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis<br>📈 Market Insights</p><p><strong>Subscribe now</strong> 👉 ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.theblock.co/newsletters%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0">https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Hiring in crypto?<br></strong><br>🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block!<br>✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test<br>⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teams</p><p><strong>Start your free trial today </strong>👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://theblock.co/campus</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 2 of The Starting Block, Head of Multimedia at The Block Gareth Jenkinson is joined by Blockstream Co-Founder and CEO, Adam Back, at Paris Blockchain Week to address renewed speculation around Satoshi Nakamoto and why the mystery may never be solved. </p><p>He explains the current state of quantum risk in Bitcoin, why the threat is likely overstated in the near term, and how the ecosystem is already preparing for long-term security.</p><p><strong>OUTLINE</strong><br>00:00 - Introduction<br>01:07 - NYT Satoshi Rumor<br>06:06 - Quantum Risk to Bitcoin<br>13:20 - Saylor's Strategy<br>16:26 - Bitcoin Treasury Companies<br>19:33 - Bitcoin Market Forecast<br>22:02 - Blockstream and Future Work</p><p><strong>Guest links:</strong><br>Adam Back - <a href="https://x.com/adam3us">https://x.com/adam3us</a><br>Blockstream - <a href="https://x.com/Blockstream">https://x.com/Blockstream</a></p><p><strong>Host links</strong>:<br>Gareth Jenkinson - <a href="https://x.com/gazza_jenks">https://x.com/gazza_jenks</a><br>The Block - <a href="https://x.com/TheBlockCo">https://x.com/TheBlockCo</a><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters</strong>!</p><p>🚨 Breaking News<br>👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis<br>📈 Market Insights</p><p><strong>Subscribe now</strong> 👉 ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.theblock.co/newsletters%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0">https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Hiring in crypto?<br></strong><br>🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block!<br>✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test<br>⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teams</p><p><strong>Start your free trial today </strong>👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://theblock.co/campus</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 1 of The Starting Block, Head of Multimedia at The Block Gareth Jenkinson is joined by Stani Kulechov, founder and CEO of Aave at ETHCC in Cannes. Stani breaks down the launch of Aave V4 and what it means for the future of DeFi. He explains how the new hub-and-spoke architecture improves liquidity efficiency while isolating risk, and how Aave is expanding beyond crypto into real-world assets.</p><p><strong>OUTLINE</strong><br>00:00 - Introduction<br>01:06 - What Is Aave V4<br>02:55 - Hub and Spoke Model<br>03:58 - Expanding Collateral Types<br>04:40 - Risk and Pricing Model<br>06:19 - DeFi UX Problem<br>07:03 - Aave App Explained<br>08:31 - V3 to V4 Migration<br>09:28 - Aave Growth and Scale<br>10:39 - Real World Assets</p><p><strong>Guest links:</strong><br>Stani Kulechov - <a href="https://x.com/StaniKulechov">https://x.com/StaniKulechov</a><br>AAVE - <a href="https://x.com/aave">https://x.com/aave</a></p><p><strong>Host links</strong>:<br>Gareth Jenkinson - <a href="https://x.com/gazza_jenks">https://x.com/gazza_jenks</a><br>The Block - <a href="https://x.com/TheBlockCo">https://x.com/TheBlockCo</a><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters</strong>!</p><p>🚨 Breaking News<br>👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis<br>📈 Market Insights</p><p><strong>Subscribe now</strong> 👉 ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.theblock.co/newsletters%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0">https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Hiring in crypto?<br></strong><br>🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block!<br>✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test<br>⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teams</p><p><strong>Start your free trial today </strong>👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://theblock.co/campus</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 1 of The Starting Block, Head of Multimedia at The Block Gareth Jenkinson is joined by Stani Kulechov, founder and CEO of Aave at ETHCC in Cannes. Stani breaks down the launch of Aave V4 and what it means for the future of DeFi. He explains how the new hub-and-spoke architecture improves liquidity efficiency while isolating risk, and how Aave is expanding beyond crypto into real-world assets.</p><p><strong>OUTLINE</strong><br>00:00 - Introduction<br>01:06 - What Is Aave V4<br>02:55 - Hub and Spoke Model<br>03:58 - Expanding Collateral Types<br>04:40 - Risk and Pricing Model<br>06:19 - DeFi UX Problem<br>07:03 - Aave App Explained<br>08:31 - V3 to V4 Migration<br>09:28 - Aave Growth and Scale<br>10:39 - Real World Assets</p><p><strong>Guest links:</strong><br>Stani Kulechov - <a href="https://x.com/StaniKulechov">https://x.com/StaniKulechov</a><br>AAVE - <a href="https://x.com/aave">https://x.com/aave</a></p><p><strong>Host links</strong>:<br>Gareth Jenkinson - <a href="https://x.com/gazza_jenks">https://x.com/gazza_jenks</a><br>The Block - <a href="https://x.com/TheBlockCo">https://x.com/TheBlockCo</a><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters</strong>!</p><p>🚨 Breaking News<br>👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis<br>📈 Market Insights</p><p><strong>Subscribe now</strong> 👉 ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.theblock.co/newsletters%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0">https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><strong>Hiring in crypto?<br></strong><br>🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block!<br>✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test<br>⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teams</p><p><strong>Start your free trial today </strong>👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://theblock.co/campus</p>]]>
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