You can watch the full episode that's being reviewed this week at this link:

https://youtu.be/zTSDI_yRtGA

This week the crew discusses:

• Billy Joe Travis being SUSPENDED from TV after smashing guitars over everybody’s heads recently
• Brandon Baxter declaring war on Randy Hales and promising to destroy Power Pro Wrestling “brick by brick”
• The arrival of “Master B” (Reggie B. Fine's take on Master P )
• Jackie vs. Paula Bunyan as Samantha debates Derrick King on commentary
• Derrick King continuing his painfully awkward attempts to win Jackie’s affection
• Kid Wicked defending the Young Guns Championship against Ashley Hudson (after Hudson earns a shot by winning a multi-man match)
• The Spellbinder faces off with BJ Awesome, just don't call BJ "the M word" (Moe)
• Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee reuniting against Paul Diamond & Master B in the chaotic main event
• More classic Dave Brown reactions and Corey Maclin stumbling over his own excitement

Plus:
Robb’s ongoing hatred of Billy Joe Travis…
BT explains the Memphis chapter of the "Big Booty Club"
and another deep dive into the early growing pains of Power Pro Wrestling as Randy Hales tries to build a new Memphis territory in 1998.

If you love old-school Memphis wrestling, bizarre late-90s territory TV, and hilarious wrestling discussion, this is the podcast for you.

Episode Highlights:

• Taboo Saturday: The team analyzes the USWA's version of fan-voted matchmaking, where viewers called in to determine the card for the Mid-South Coliseum.
• The Search for Flea: The mysterious and massive Dog of War debuts, quizzing the announcers while searching for Jimmy Valiant and his missing girlfriend, FLEA!
• Lawler’s Mark Out Session: Jerry "The King" Lawler spends nearly 15 minutes of TV time showcasing his Nashville celebrity softball highlights and his prized guitar signed by Garth Brooks, George Jones, Reba McEntire, and many more!
• The Unforgivable Act: Billy Joe Travis interrupts the King's match with Bull Pain to "tune" Lawler's signed guitar by smashing it against the floor and ripping up his signed program.
• Softball Bat Retaliation: A "crazed" Lawler takes a softball bat to the parking lot, smashing the windows of a car he believes belongs to Billy Joe Travis.
• Studio Violence: Eric Embry and Dr. Tom Pritchard lead a brutal attack on Jeff Jarrett and Robert Fuller, and even the legendary Eddie Marlin isn't safe as his neck brace is ripped off during a brutal assault.

Make sure you subscribe to keep up with the USWA action week by week right here on the Retro Wrestling Archive!

BT brings you an insider's perspective to the bizarre happenings in the squared circle and the octagon. From outlandish storylines to mind-bending maneuvers, THE WTF News Desk is your go-to source for all things unconventional in the fight world.

Lance opens up about:

•  Training in Don Bass’ legendary “barn” in Jericho, Arkansas 
•  Meeting The Ultimate Warrior and attending his wrestling camp 
•  Breaking into the dying days of the USWA 
•  Getting early opportunities on Memphis TV 
•  Working WWF Shotgun Saturday Night against Kurrgan 
•  Interacting backstage with Stone Cold Steve Austin, Owen Hart, Jeff Jarrett, Hawk, Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn and more 
•  The creation of the Power Pro Wrestling Young Guns division 
•  Randy Hales, Brandon Baxter, Derrick King, Tony Williams and the early days of Power Pro 
•  The rise of the IWO gimmick and why it became his favorite run in wrestling 
•  Working alongside Alan Steele, Blade Boudreaux, Chris Michaels and the rest of the Memphis crew 
•  Why Memphis wrestling struggled to create new main event stars 
•  Wrestling Harley Race, Bob Backlund, The Iron Sheik and more after leaving Memphis 
•  Riots, near-stabbings, shotgun threats, crazy crowds and the insanity of independent wrestling in the South during the late 90s 
•  Why he ultimately walked away from wrestling and what finally brought closure to that chapter of his life 

This is one of the most honest, detailed, and entertaining looks at the Power Pro Wrestling era you’re going to hear anywhere. If you love Memphis wrestling history, territory stories, behind-the-scenes wrestling talk, or late-90s independent wrestling chaos, you do NOT want to miss this episode.

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This week’s episode features:

• Brian Christopher continuing his obsession with shaving people bald 
• Jeff Jarrett defending the Southern Heavyweight Title 
• Jerry Lawler threatening to knock teeth out “like Chiclets” 
• The chaotic saga of Lauren Davenport trying to become EVERYBODY’S valet 
• Mike Miller somehow becoming the center of an all-time trashy Memphis wrestling love triangle 
• The Harris Brothers absolutely DESTROYING people with steel chairs 
• The Moondogs allegedly going to the gym (yes, really) 
• And another Monday Night Coliseum card loaded with disqualifications, chaos, and insanity 

Along the way, the guys discuss the weird logic of Memphis wrestling booking, early 90s wrestling culture, awkward wrestling spots, classic Memphis personalities, and why this era of USWA TV somehow remains endlessly entertaining decades later.

If you love old-school Memphis wrestling, ridiculous promos, chaotic booking, and hearing passionate fans break down the madness with humor and nostalgia, this is another must-listen episode.

This episode centers around the legendary March 1986 feud involving:

• Jerry Lawler
• Bill Dundee
• Buddy Landel
• Dutch Mantell

The guys break down:

• The March 8, 1986 Memphis TV episode
• Why certain promos aired ONLY in Memphis and not across the loop
• The business explosion caused by Lawler’s return
• The legendary Texas Death Match that packed the Mid-South Coliseum
• How Memphis TV was edited market by market in the territory days
• Randy Hales’ firsthand memories of the era
• Rare behind the scenes stories from Power Pro Wrestling and classic Memphis wrestling
• And one absolutely INSANE riot story from Hazard, Kentucky 

This is a fascinating behind the scenes look at how territory wrestling TV actually worked straight from someone who lived it!

If you love classic Memphis wrestling history, old school territory booking, Mid South Coliseum stories, and hearing wrestling history dissected by true fans and insiders, you do NOT want to miss this episode.

From "Exotic" Adrian Street twisting Roy Lee Welch into knots to more Nightmare "Twin Magic" to Fuller & Golden gloating about what they did to "Bullet" Bob Armstrong… to Tommy “Wildfire” Rich bleeding buckets in the main event for the Continental Title… this episode feels like pure old school Southern wrestling chaos that we remember and love! 

This week’s episode features:

The crowning of the FIRST Young Guns Champion in a 14-man Battle Royal

The arrival of Jackie (formerly Miss Texas) to Power Pro Wrestling

Derrick King continuing his hilarious “Mr. Personalities" gimmick and doing his best to win the affection of Jackie!

Brandon Baxter delivering a fiery promo aimed directly at Randy Hales and showing he's going to be a force to be reckoned with on the mic here in Power Pro

Billy Joe Travis and Paul Diamond causing absolute chaos

TWO stretcher matches in back to back weeks, and this one really delivers, even more than last week's did

The shocking return of Sir Mo as BJ Awesome (a name that's anything but)

Bill Dundee taking multiple guitar shots to the head in one episode (Billy Joe is averaging busting 2 guitars per episode so far in 1998)

The gang breaks down every match, promo, angle, and bizarre moment from this unforgettable episode, while also sharing behind the scenes stories they've been told, Memphis wrestling history, and plenty of laughs along the way.

If you love 90s Memphis wrestling and old school wrestling talk, this is the podcast for you.

Episode #21 of Cassette Wrestling News finds the wrestling world settling into an uneasy new normal, as the consequences of industry consolidation, talent migration, and creative stagnation become impossible to ignore. With the shock of recent upheavals fading, CWN turns its focus toward the long-term damage — and the few remaining bright spots keeping wrestling fans invested. Jeff Osborne and John Seaton continue to function as unfiltered observers of a business that feels increasingly disconnected from its roots. 

The episode blends reporting, speculation, editorial frustration, and underground insight, reflecting a fanbase struggling to reconcile nostalgia with reality. 

Key topics and themes include: Ongoing analysis of the post–Ric Flair jump landscape, including how the WWF is reshaping its hierarchy and how WCW continues to lose momentum Continued criticism of WCW leadership and creative direction, with declining houses and wasted talent serving as recurring talking points Growing concern over wrestler morale, as performers face fewer options and greater creative limitations Praise for independent wrestling and “super-indie” cards, positioned as the last refuge for meaningful in-ring action Continued focus on Cactus Jack as both a standout performer and a symbol of wrestling’s increasingly dangerous escalation Updates from wrestling media insiders, newsletters, hotlines, and tape traders — illustrating how fans stayed informed before the internet Listener correspondence and commentary reflecting widespread fan disillusionment with the state of the business 

Episode #21 reinforces a recurring CWN theme: wrestling has not simply changed — it has lost its center. What once felt like a sport driven by competition, personality, and regional identity now feels corporatized, risk-averse, and creatively exhausted. Rather than explosive controversy, this episode captures something more subtle and more telling — fatigue. The outrage has cooled, but the disappointment lingers, and CWN captures that emotional shift with remarkable honesty. 

Episode #21 stands as another crucial chapter in Cassette Wrestling News’ role as a living time capsule, documenting not just what happened in professional wrestling, but how fans felt while it was happening. This transcript is preserved for historical and archival purposes as part of an ongoing effort to document Cassette Wrestling News as one of the earliest and most influential precursors to modern pro wrestling podcasts.

Originally recorded a couple of years ago when this whole journey first started, this episode now gets a brand new release for a brand new audience and it’s fascinating hearing the foundation being laid for the formula they guys still use on the show today in it's second season covering 1991. The show has recently gained a lot of new followers due to some great folks like Rob Nailor sharing the show and putting it over on Twitter or X...you know what we mean. (Thanks Rob!) 

This week, the guys break down:

• Jerry “The King” Lawler’s growing issues with "Mean" Mike Miller
• Bill Dundee’s emotional “farewell” to the USWA before heading to WCW
• Brian Christopher proving why he was one of the absolute BEST heels in Memphis wrestling
• Jeff Jarrett defending the USWA Southern Heavyweight Title
• Zeke Rivers getting his head shaved
• The insanity of the Christmas Creature angle (BAH-GAWD, that's gotta be KANE!)
• The bizarre logic of Memphis wrestling stipulations
• And the beautiful chaos that made early-90s USWA television unlike anything else in wrestling

Along the way, Gene, Richard, and Josh share personal memories of growing up around Memphis wrestling, stories connected to "Nightmare" Danny Davis aka "Uncle Danny", discovering wrestling through local TV, and why this era still means so much to them decades later.

This isn’t just a review of an old wrestling show, it’s three lifelong wrestling fans reconnecting with a lost era of Southern wrestling television that was gritty, weird, hilarious, occasionally nonsensical… and completely unforgettable.

If you love old school Memphis wrestling, classic territory storytelling, overbooked brawls, hair matches, chaotic promos, and hearing passionate fans dig deep into wrestling history with humor and nostalgia, this is the perfect place to jump in.

Welcome back to where it all began.

Eric Embry is seemingly feuding with everyone in the company & Dr. Tom is here for it, "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert returns with a “Global” title, Dundee & Davis make peace, Chris Frazier gets his weekly a** whipping, Freezer Thompson is still getting recruiting by Embry, Tony Falk is back with a new job, and Billy Joe Travis "crowns" Jerry Lawler with a guitar… again.

There's a lot of fun stuff to cover here.....things move fast in the USWA!

Watch/Listen now.

• Growing up in small-town Alabama and overcoming financial struggles
• Building First Family Mortgage and taking big risks to grow
• How he cracked the code on advertising and marketing
• The accidental start of his podcast career with Ric Flair
• Turning podcasts into a business to promote his business and building a media empire in the process

Real stories, real hustle, and the mindset behind one of wrestling’s most successful voices. You may think you know the "Podfather", but this interview goes to places we guarantee you haven't heard before.

• Brian Christopher vs. Billy Joe Travis in a bizarre stretcher match 
• Jimmy Valiant with an all time ridiculous promo about kissing Corey Maclin ("Re-dick-uh-luss")
• The Young Guns division keeps delivering (albeit with a confusing finish) 
•  Derrick King steals the show both in the ring and in his promo!
•  "Stone Cold" Samantha hits a stunner on Bruno while trying to get hired by "Randy Hale"
•  Plus behind-the-scenes insight into Austin Idol’s no-show and major creative changes, from people who were there, plus Miss Jackie is on her way!

Memphis chaos, real stories, and a show trying to find itself in real time.

This week covers:

Texas Outlaws… Or Barroom Brawlers?! 
Jeff Jarrett has a snazzy new ring jacket!
Robert Fuller is tanned and sick of this bull****!

Billy Joe Travis Strikes AGAIN!

Eric Embry vs. EVERYBODY! 
Dr. Tom breaks his silence....
Dr. X plays "DIRTY"
Where/When/and with Who, Jerry Lawler will be playing softball

Tojo Tries to Recruit Freezer Thompson 
We say farewell to Christopher Love and Eric Fontaine (for now)

This is one of those sleeper episodes that you don't realize just how fun it is until you start talking about it!
So click 'play' and let's get it going!

On Episode #52 of Retro Wrestling w/Gene Jackson, Gene is once again joined by Bob Anderson as they dive back into the wild, hard hitting world of 1990s All Japan Women’s Wrestling featuring two absolutely insane matches starring Manami Toyota vs. Akira Hokuto and Manami Toyota vs. Aja Kong.

This Isn’t Memphis… This Is Something Else

If you thought last episode was intense, this one takes it to another level:

• Moves that look physically impossible
• Head drops that will make you cringe
• And a pace that feels YEARS ahead of anything happening in the U.S. at the time because it was!

This isn’t just different… it’s borderline unreal.

Toyota vs. Hokuto – Painful Innovation

The first match is a technical nightmare (in the best way):

• Insane submission holds that bend knees in ways they should NOT bend
• Precision striking and brutal limb work
• And bumps that defy belief and make you wonder who any of these women survived it as long as they did in their careers

Toyota vs. Aja Kong – Pure Violence

Then things shift… and things go from "hard hitting" to downright MEAN...

• Aja Kong dominates with raw power and brutal offense
• Toyota fights from underneath like her life depends on it (and it may have)
• Multiple moments where you’re asking:
  “How is this not the finish?!”

And yes… there’s at least one spot you’re going to replay just to make sure you saw it right.

Ahead of Its Time

Throughout the episode, Gene and Bob break down:

• How far ahead this style was compared to 90s American wrestling
• Why so many future stars borrowed from this era
• And how some of these moves STILL look more dangerous than anything you see today

Classic Gene & Bob Commentary

Of course, it wouldn’t be this show without:

• Random tangents (Yoshi Kwan somehow makes it into the conversation)
• Old-school references and comparisons
• And plenty of “what the hell did we just watch?” moments

This episode may not make you FAN of 90s Japanese Women's Wrestling, but it will certainly make you RESPECT it! 

This is one you REALLY need to watch, YouTube videocast link included below!

Right out of the gate, we get a showcase of what makes tag team wrestling special as The Nightmares continue to prove why they might be the most complete team in wrestling at the time blending work rate, psychology, and heat in a way that still holds up today.

From there, the show builds momentum with:

• Robb's first time look at Roy Lee Welch, living up to the reputation with smooth, technical work
• A discussion on why tag team storytelling from this era still outshines much of today’s product
• A wild and chaotic match featuring Brickhouse Brown, including one of the stiffest dropkicks you’ll ever see!
• The always unpredictable Exotic Adrian Street, delivering another unforgettable promo while escalating his issues with Austin Idol and Roy Lee Welch

But everything on this show takes a backseat to what happens in the main event.

A rare steel cage match on television sets the stage for what looks like a major showdown… until one of the most shocking betrayals in Continental history unfolds. What starts as a grudge match turns into a brutal, emotional angle that left fans stunned—and in Gene’s case, legitimately angry as a kid watching it unfold in real time.

We break down:

• The subtle storytelling that foreshadows the turn
• Why this angle worked so well compared to similar turns in other territories
• How Continental handled the fallout in a way that kept fans hooked for the next week
• And why moments like this are the reason territory wrestling still resonates decades later
• This is Continental at its best: simple, effective, and powerful storytelling that sticks with you long after the show ends.

• Austin Idol no-shows, forcing Randy Hales to rewrite the entire show 
• Jerry Lawler confronts Hales, setting the tone for what’s coming 
• Billy Joe Travis destroys people with guitar shots (again) 
• The Young Guns division continues to shine with a fast-paced tag match 
• Brian Christopher vs. Billy Joe Travis ends in chaos and sets up a stretcher match 

Real Memphis chaos, real reactions, and a show already dealing with real-life problems in Week Two.

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On Episode #3 of Beyond Wrestling w/Robb, Robb Helt sits down with one of the most controversial, colorful, and misunderstood figures in wrestling history—Jamie Dundee—for a conversation that goes way deeper than anything you’ve heard before.

The Man Behind the Name

We’ve all heard the stories.
 We know the reputation.

But this isn’t about J.C. Ice…

This is about Jamie Dundee- the son, the father, the grandfather, and the man behind all the masks he's worn in his life!

From growing up in Hendersonville surrounded by legends like Johnny Cash and the Oak Ridge Boys… to navigating life under the shadow of “Superstar” Bill Dundee, Jamie opens up in a way most have never heard.

Real Talk: Family, Loss & Regret

This episode doesn’t pull punches.

Jamie speaks candidly about:

•  His complicated relationship with his father 
•  The realities of dementia and watching a parent fade 
•  The devastating loss of his son 
•  The sacrifices that come with chasing fame 

And maybe the most powerful takeaway of all:

“None of it’s worth it if you don’t have your family.”

Life After Wrestling

Forget the spotlight—this is about what comes after.

•  Walking away from the business and actually letting it go
•  Battling and overcoming addiction 
•  Finding peace in a quiet life off the grid 
•  Learning how to be present… as a husband, father, and grandfather 

It’s raw. It’s honest. And it’s real in a way most wrestling interviews never are, but that's why Beyond Wrestling is
unlike any other podcast or interview show out there....we're not a WRESTLING podcast! We're a podcast that 
interviews WRESTLERS about everything BUT wrestling!

This isn’t a wrestling interview.

It’s about:
 Growing up
 Screwing up
 Surviving it
 Owning it
 And figuring out what actually matters on the other side

We're officially launching The Year of the Cassette, a deep dive into Cassette Wrestling News - the OG audio wrestling experience that "Stone Cold" Steve Austin once called the first ever podcast. 

Episode #20 of Cassette Wrestling News captures the wrestling world entering a strange new phase: the initial shock of industry-wide upheaval has passed, but the consequences are now fully visible. With Ric Flair entrenched in the WWF, WCW struggling to redefine itself, and independent wrestling thriving on chaos and creativity, CWN documents a business at a crossroads. Jeff Osborne and John Seaton continue their role as real-time historians, blending news, rumor, opinion, and firsthand reports as they track the ripple effects of consolidation, scandal, and creative burnout. The tone of the episode reflects a wrestling culture that has grown cynical — yet still hopeful that the sport can rediscover its identity. Major topics and themes include: Ongoing fallout from Ric Flair's WWF arrival, including early reactions to his presentation and speculation on long-term booking direction Continued dissection of WCW's creative collapse, declining attendance, and internal dysfunction Talent frustration and movement rumors involving key names caught between loyalty and survival Analysis of WWF's evolving style — balancing cartoon spectacle, media scrutiny, and star power

In this episode:

• Kurt breaks down the grueling dojo training (1,000+ push-ups, 1,600 sit-ups, and hundreds of bumps daily)
• The truth behind why he was never allowed to be “Destroyer Jr.”
• A behind-the-scenes look at wrestling politics in All Japan
• And the unforgettable moment of teaming with his father in his final matches at the Budokan
• And sooooo much more! 
• Plus a peak at Dick Beyer's scene with Dick Murdoch in GRUNT the Wrestling Movie (1985)

From dream… to reality… to full circle.

If you’re a fan of old school wrestling, All Japan, wrestling history, and real behind-the-scenes stories, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

What was supposed to be a smooth multi-platform live streaming debut quickly turns into a YouTube only, anything can happen live stream featuring technical difficulties, unexpected guests, and one of the most chaotic (and fun) conversations you’ll hear anywhere.

From talking about the state of the Retro Wrestling Archive, to breaking down new shows like Beyond Wrestling, to just shooting the breeze about wrestling fandom this one goes everywhere.

Fans Take Over the Show

This isn’t just a podcast… this is a hangout.

• Viewers jump into the comments and onto the show
• Discussions about Memphis wrestling history, favorite moments, and growing up as fans
• A real sense of community starts forming right in Episode One
• 
  

And Then It Gets WEIRD (In the Best Way)

• Robb’s mom shows up and starts telling stories about punishing him as a kid by taking away wrestling, but the best story is when the Fantastics (Bobby Fulton/Tommy Rogers) were their neighbors in Nashville and she convinced them to....you just have to check out the show to find out! It's gold!
• Childhood memories of backyard matches, homemade belts, and sneaking wrestling on TV
• The guys are joined by MemfoBrandTees.com's own....Chad Anderson for some old school Memphis wrestling talk
• And then… things completely go off the rails

Enter: Hot Tamale

Just when you think things are settling down to some degree of normal.....

Hot Tamale crashes the show.

What follows:

• Wild back-and-forth trash talk
• Claims of winning titles from Jerry Lawler in his living room
• A full on challenge being issued for a match!
• Legit on-air phone calls to Memphis Legends Reggie B. Fine and Jerry 'the King' Lawler
• It's one of the most ridiculous and hilarious segments ever and this is just episode ONE!

What This Show Is Going to Be

If Episode One proves anything, it’s this:

This isn’t a traditional podcast.
This isn’t a structured interview show.

This is:

Live, interactive, unpredictable wrestling talk with zero guardrails

Guests, fans, stories, chaos - whatever happens, happens...because......WE'RE LIVE, PAL!!

Gene Jackson and Bob Anderson break down the ambitious format, the strategy behind the points system, and whether the experiment actually delivered or if it was too complicated for its own good.

This episode covers:

🔥 The Ric Flair vs. Sting dynamic as the decade closes
🔥 The Road Warriors dominating the tag team field, even as they end their run
🔥 The Great Muta’s sudden descent down the card and what caused it
🔥 Lex Luger trying to prove he belongs at the top
🔥 The Steiner Brothers showcasing next-level athleticism
🔥 The Iron Man Tournament concept: bold innovation or creative overreach?

As the 80s come to an end, World Championship Wrestling is clearly transitioning. The Horsemen era is evolving. New stars are emerging. The athletic style is tightening up. But is this the right formula to carry WCW into the 1990s?

Was Future Shock ahead of its time… or just ahead of its audience?

We break down every match, every point scored, and every storyline implication as we close the book on 1989 WCW and prepare for 1990!

Featuring:

The return of Austin Idol 
A very different version of Jerry Lawler that Memphis were used to
The debut of the Young Guns division
And a chaotic main event between Lawler and Dundee 

New show. New direction. Same Memphis madness!

Since this is the premiere, this episode will be 100% ad free!

This isn’t your typical wrestling interview, in fact it's NOT a wrestling interview at all.

Instead of talking matches and championships, Rip opens up about:

•  His extreme discipline and workout philosophy (training since the 1960s and still going strong at 72) 
•  The mindset that made him one of the toughest and most respected figures in the business 
•  His brutally honest opinions on modern wrestling and what’s missing today
•  Growing up in Indiana, life outside the ring, and the reality of becoming the character you portray 

Plus:

•  Wild stories from his time in boxing and bodybuilding
•  Behind the scenes insight into training future stars 
•  And a no filter look at how Rip sees the world today 

If you’re a fan of old school wrestling, wrestling psychology, and real conversations with no gimmicks, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

BT brings you an insider's perspective to the bizarre happenings in the squared circle and the octagon. From outlandish storylines to mind-bending maneuvers, THE WTF News Desk is your go-to source for all things unconventional in the fight world.

In Part One of this special two part interview, Gene sits down with Kurt Beyer, the son of legendary masked icon "The Intelligent, Sensational Destroyer" aka Dick Beyer, for one of the most fascinating and personal conversations in the history of the show.

This isn’t just another wrestling interview… this is a firsthand look at what it was like to grow up inside the business and literally travel the world during one of its most protected and mysterious eras.

You'll hear:
What it was like growing up backstage surrounded by legends like Freddie Blassie and Mr. Moto

Incredible childhood stories including the moment Kurt tried to jump into the ring to save his father mid match....TWICE!

A behind the scenes look at kayfabe from a child’s perspective and how the business protected itself in those days

The origins of The Destroyer gimmick, including the famous mask and how it was created

Stories from life in multiple territories and the drastic culture shift from the U.S. to Japan

The Japan Story Begins…
This episode also dives into the early stages of The Destroyer’s rise in Japan, including:

How he became one of the most recognizable (not just wrestling) figures in the country

The cultural impact of wrestling in Japan vs. the United States

And how Kurt and his family experienced that journey firsthand

This is one of those rare conversations that goes way beyond the ring.

It’s about:

Family

The reality behind the mythology

And a time when wrestling wasn’t just entertainment… it was protected, lived, and believed by everyone....especially wrestler's families

And seeing it through the eyes of someone who lived their entire life around the wrestling business gives unique insight you don't always get in an interview this in depth.

Part One of a two-part conversation you do NOT want to miss!

This week:

• Robert Fuller shocks everyone by aligning with Bullet Bob Armstrong against his family!
 • A steel cage “Loser Leaves Town” showdown is signed against Ron Fuller & Jimmy Golden
 • Adrian Street delivers a technical showcase
 • Bill Ash and Jimmy Backlund (Del Ray) go hold for hold in a snug battle
 • The Nightmares clash with The Rat Patrol in high energy tag action
 • Tommy Rich pushes toward a showdown with The Flame

Continental in 1985 is hitting a stride with layered angles, tight work, and emotional storytelling that bridges Memphis heat with Mid-South realism.

Join Gene Jackson and Robb Helt as they break it down week-by-week, episode-by-episode, preserving wrestling history one territory at a time.

In this episode:

• 
  The guys break down their picks for the greatest masked wrestlers of all time—from Mr. Wrestling II to The Interns and beyond
  
  
• 
  A deep dive into gimmick matches.....what worked, what didn’t, and why some of those wild stipulations actually drew money
  
  
• 
  Honest insight into how important a referee really is to a match and how good (or bad) refs can make or break everything
  
  
• 
  Stories about working with legends like Bobby “The Brain” Heenan, and what made him one of the greatest minds (and bumpers) in the business
  
  
• 
  A great discussion on chemistry in the ring and why some matchups just don’t click, even when everyone involved is great
  
  

And of course… it wouldn’t be Dangerous Conversations without the stories:

• 
  Tales of scaffold matches, barbed wire, and gimmick matches that pushed things to the limit
  
  
• 
  Road stories that include ribs involving bears, broken logic, and decisions that probably made sense at the time even if they don't now
  
  
• 
  And classic Memphis talk, including arenas, territories, and what made those crowds so special
  
  

Plus, Doug shares some of the best advice he ever got from his father and brother, while Tommy reflects on what made certain matches, feuds, and moments truly work.

This is one of those episodes where the conversation goes everywhere and that’s exactly why it works.

Real stories. Real insight. No filter.

In this special bonus episode of Retro Wrestling, Gene Jackson tells the story of "Larry Burton", the businessman who walked into the USWA in the mid-1990s with a plan to “modernize” the territory… and instead became forever tied to its collapse.

Gene breaks down:

• How Burton entered the USWA through Jerry Lawler
• The risky business deals, investor money, and the idea of flipping the company for millions
• Why the plan was built on projection instead of reality
• The lawsuits, legal chaos, and total collapse that followed

And ultimately…

Why Memphis Wrestling didn’t end with a bang but quietly disappeared, leaving behind decades of history with no farewell, no final moment… no closure for generations of fans.

Was Larry Burton the villain?

Or was Memphis Wrestling already dying before he ever showed up?

This is the story of how it all ended as we prepare to begin reviewing the show that tried to fill the void that was left by the USWA. 

Also, on a future episode Robb Helt will join us with an even deeper dive into the legal aspects of this story and how it all unfolded in court over the course of several years.

With the dust now settling from the chaos of the previous issues, Jeff Osborne and John Seaton settle into a more reflective — yet still highly opinionated — examination of where the wrestling business is heading. The episode captures a fanbase caught between disbelief and reluctant acceptance as the WWF tightens its grip on the industry and WCW continues to flounder under corporate mismanagement. 

Key themes and discussions in Episode #19 include: Continued analysis of Ric Flair’s arrival in the WWF, how he is being positioned, and what it means for Hulk Hogan, WCW, and the concept of a “world champion” Ongoing frustration with WCW’s creative and business decline, including talent misuse and collapsing live attendance Reaction to the post-Ultimate Warrior landscape, with WWF’s roster reshaping in real time.

Commentary on independent wrestling’s growing importance, as groups like Tri-State Wrestling Alliance and other super-indies provide the most compelling in-ring action Praise and concern surrounding Cactus Jack’s physical style, as his performances continue to blur the line between spectacle and self-destruction Media, newsletter, and hotline culture updates, reflecting how wrestling news traveled in the pre-internet era Listener interaction, underground tape trading, and the growing CWN community itself 

This week on Retro Wrestling with Gene Jackson, we step WAY outside the comfort zone and into something that might completely change how you look at wrestling.

Joining Gene is returning guest (and Retro WCW podcast co-host) “Broadcast” Bob Anderson, and together they dive into a 1993 All Japan Women’s Wrestling classic that is widely considered one of the greatest matches of all time.

And let’s just say… if you think you’ve seen everything wrestling has to offer, this match is here to prove you wrong.

Featuring names like Manami Toyota, Toshiyo Yamada, Dynamite Kansai, and Mayumi Ozaki, this isn’t just a match, it’s a full-blown, high speed, no regard for human life war that somehow combines insane athleticism with real storytelling and selling.

On this episode, we break down:

• Why these women were doing things in the early ‘90s that the U.S. wouldn’t catch up to for YEARS
• The insane pace, creativity, and physicality that still feels ahead of its time
• The difference between “modern spot wrestling” and what THESE women were doing and why this actually works
• The level of punishment these wrestlers take… and how they kept doing it for decades

And yes… we react in real time to:

• Brutal kicks that look like they belong in a shoot fight
• Mind blowing high speed sequences and transitions
• Moves that you’ll swear didn’t exist until the 2000s (or later)
• And a finish that somehow tops everything that came before it

What starts as a curiosity turns into pure disbelief as Gene sees firsthand why this style has such a legendary reputation and why names like Manami Toyota are still brought up in “greatest of all time” conversations.

Whether you’re a longtime fan of joshi wrestling or someone who’s never seen a second of it… this is one of those episodes where you’re going to walk away saying:

“How the hell were they doing this in 1993?”

Welcome to the debut episode of Beyond Wrestling w/Robb, where host Robb Helt pulls back the curtain and steps into the Neutral Corner Lounge, a place where the gimmicks fade, the stories get real, and you finally meet the person behind the persona.

And for the very first episode, Robb sits down with a man who’s lived it all…
“Wildfire” Tommy Rich.

But this isn’t the Tommy Rich you’ve heard in shoot interviews or wrestling podcasts.

This is something different.

Instead of championships and territories, Robb takes Tommy somewhere deeper:

• Growing up in Hendersonville, Tennessee and what life was like before wrestling ever entered the picture
• The values instilled by family, and the influence of a strong mother who helped shape the man behind the persona
• Wild childhood stories (including one that ends with a burned haystack… and multiple ass-whippings)
• Life on the road vs. life at home and what it really meant to balance wrestling with being a husband and father
• Personal struggles, health scares, and the discipline it took to completely change his life later on

And along the way, you get moments you’ve NEVER heard from Tommy Rich before:

• Honest reflections on faith, family, and legacy
• Stories about meeting legends outside the wrestling business, from music icons to everyday influences
• His thoughts on aging, slowing down, and what truly matters now

This isn’t about what happened in the ring.

It’s about everything that happened outside of it.

By the end of this episode, you won’t just know Tommy Rich the wrestler…
you’ll understand Tommy Rich the person.

And that’s exactly what Beyond Wrestling w/Robb is all about.

Gene is joined by Gil Culkin, author of The Mississippi Wrestling Territory: The Untold Story, for a revealing conversation about:

•  The legendary George “Curtis” Culkin and his wrestling roots dating back to 1939 
•  Breaking away from Bill Watts’ Mid-South Wrestling and launching an independent Mississippi territory in 1977 
•  The promotional war between the Culkins and Watts 
•  The wild Grizzly Smith angle that nearly imploded a major Jackson show 
•  How a 16-year-old Terry Gordy became Mississippi’s first heavyweight champion 
•  The earliest days of Michael Hayes, including the first time he ever came out to “Freebird” 
•  The creation of Percy Pringle III (yes, future Paul Bearer got his start here) 
•  Frankie Cain’s booking genius and his outside the box storytelling 
•  Riots in Gulfport, police involvement, and the night Ernie Ladd nearly caused a full scale arena meltdown 

Gil shares behind the scenes stories about working with legends like Nick Bockwinkel, Lou Thesz, The Spoiler, Porkchop Cash, King Cobra, The Mongolians, Mr. Fuji, and more while offering insight into what made the Mississippi territory unique.

More than anything, this episode highlights something rare in wrestling history: a territory built on loyalty, fairness, and reputation.

If you care about territorial wrestling, promoter wars, the birth of major stars, or how wrestling really operated in the 1970s and 80s, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

Pick up The Mississippi Wrestling Territory: The Untold Story by Gil Culkin on Amazon.
It’s required reading for territory era fans.

Broadcast live from Troy, New York, this Clash features one of the most emotionally charged main events of the year, an I Quit Match between Ric Flair and Terry Funk but that’s just the beginning of the chaos.

On this episode, Gene and Bob break down:

🔥 Flair vs. Funk in a brutal I Quit showdown
 🔥 The Road Warriors vs. The Freebirds kicking things off loud
 🔥 Doom continuing their rise under Woman’s influence
 🔥 The Steiners colliding with the Skyscrapers in a stiff, wild brawl
 🔥 The Dynamic Dudes’ fate at the hands of Jim Cornette
 🔥 Lex Luger defending the U.S. Title against Flyin’ Brian Pillman
 🔥 Norman the Lunatic, Dr. Death, and the mysterious Super Destroyer!
 🔥 WCW’s production quirks, crowd reactions, and late 80s energy

Was this one of the stronger Clashes of 1989?
 Did the I Quit match live up to its reputation?
 And just how chaotic did things get in that Steiner/Skyscraper confrontation and was Sid nervous??

It’s peak 1989 WCW: gritty, unpredictable, sometimes awkward, but always interesting.

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This week delivers peak Continental energy:

• 
  Ron Fuller & the Stud Stable tightening their grip on the territory
  
  
• A fiery Austin Idol promo that steals the show
  
  
• Lord Humongous continuing to look like the scariest man alive
  
  
• The Armstrongs dealing with betrayal, revenge, and an arm injury that refuses to heal
  
  
• Tommy “Wildfire” Rich defends his $20,000 Battle Royal check against Mr. Class
  
  
• A surprisingly strong TV match that turns into total mayhem
  
  
• Another big angle to set up a packed Boutwell Auditorium card
  
  
• Plus: bizarre production choices, hilarious commentary moments, and that signature Continental mix of good wrestling, heated promos, and absolute insanity

  
  

  
  

Gene and Robb break it all down with humor, history, and plenty of territory-era insight. If you love CCW, Mid-South, Memphis, Georgia, or any other southern wrestling from the ’80s… this is your show.

Like, subscribe, and join us weekly as we journey through every episode of Continental television we can find!

We dive deep into:

• The insane 250-man tryout that only four survived
• Training under Gene Anderson (and what those “tryouts” were really like)
• Stu Hart, Bruce Hart, and a gimmick pitch so wild it nearly got him struck by lightning
• Becoming “The D.I.” in Continental Wrestling
• The Honor Guard, Mark Young, and tag team gold with Randy Colley
• Working with a young Sid Vicious (and surviving the leg drop)
• Why Austin Idol once refused to follow his promo
• REAL heat in Montgomery and a riot level whipping angle
• Losing a wheel off his car on I-40 on the way to Memphis… and selling his car to a state trooper
• Living with Mark Calloway (The Undertaker) in Nashville
• Why Memphis was the hardest hitting territory he ever worked
• The phone call from Roman Gabriel that ended his wrestling career overnight

This is a raw, honest, hilarious, and occasionally jaw dropping look at what it was like working in the dying days of the territory system, when the miles were long, the money was thin, and the heat was very real.

If you love Continental Wrestling, late 80s Memphis, Eddie Gilbert stories, or behind the scenes tales from the road, this episode is for you.

The episode is dominated by the Ric Flair contract saga, with mounting evidence that Flair is WWE bound. Osborne covers WCW’s failed attempts to bring Flair back as head booker, speculation that Titan will recognize Flair as a world champion, and growing belief that Flair vs. Hulk Hogan is inevitable. The sense of finality surrounding Flair’s WCW exit looms over nearly every discussion.

Major topics and segments include:

Continued fallout from Ric Flair leaving WCW, including reports of Titan Television acknowledging his championship status

Intense criticism of Jim Herd and Dusty Rhodes, with speculation about backstage power struggles and possible outside influence

Detailed coverage of Eddie Gilbert and Cactus Jack’s Philadelphia war, described by multiple witnesses as a legitimate “match of the year” contender

Real glass used in the match

Significant venue damage

Medical and athletic commission fallout

Reports that officials feared a legitimate death or career-ending injury

Updates on WCW tryouts for Eddie Gilbert and Cactus Jack, including backstage tension with Jim Ross

Extensive discussion of steroid abuse, testing policies, and the WWF’s public relations campaign

Analysis of Hulk Hogan’s steroid denials, Dr. George Zahorian’s trial testimony, and contradictions in Hogan’s statements

Rumors and speculation surrounding Ultimate Warrior’s resignation, SummerSlam plans, and WWF locker-room instability

Coverage of independent wrestling growth, including Joel Goodhart’s Tri-State Wrestling Alliance, Autumn Armageddon II, and extreme stipulations

Reports and commentary from international correspondents, including Joe Massinio (Australia) and Dr. Mike Lano’s Japanese wrestling report, covering FMW, JWP, Medusa Miceli, and New Japan relations

A major announcement from Brian Tramel, ending his newsletter work to launch a new Mississippi-based promotion with Eddie Gilbert involvement

Listener contests, tape trading, and insight into the pre-internet wrestling underground economy

The episode also reflects a philosophical shift for Cassette Wrestling News itself- less chaos, more reporting, but no shortage of anger, disbelief, and passion as Osborne grapples with what many fans saw as the collapse of professional wrestling’s credibility.

From the New Japan Pro Wrestling dojo system to Memphis, WCW, and the WWF, Maxx opens up about a career that was anything but conventional. He talks about training in Japan alongside Chris Benoit, the culture shock of Memphis wrestling, the politics of the mid-90s locker rooms, and what it was like trying to break new ground with a rock & roll wrestling persona before the business was ready for it.

But the centerpiece of this conversation?

Maxx tells the full, unfiltered story involving rock legend Steve Miller, the behind the scenes saga that derailed what could have been a game changing crossover between wrestling and mainstream music. This isn’t rumor or secondhand storytelling, it’s Maxx’s firsthand account of what happened, how it unfolded, and how it changed the trajectory of his career.

And here’s the kicker…

We even have the Jimmy Kimmel Show clip that backs up Maxx’s side of the story.

This episode is part wrestling history, part rock & roll cautionary tale, and part redemption story, as told by the man who lived it.

If you’ve ever wondered what really happened with the Man Mountain Rock gimmick, the clique era politics, or how close wrestling came to something truly groundbreaking musically… this is the episode you’ve been waiting for.

Gene and Robb break it all down in their signature style: history, humor, insightful commentary, and plenty of “wait… what the hell was THAT?” moments.

This episode includes:

• The continued rise of the Stud Stable, Ron Fuller’s iron grip on CCW, and the debut of the masked man Mr. Class (replacing the injured Boomer H. Lynch)
• Porkchop Cash throwing hands like it’s a Saturday morning in Memphis
• A shockingly good U.S. Junior Heavyweight Title match featuring Bill Ash vs. Jason Walker pulling out moves nobody knew existed in 1985 (the slingblade)
• The bafflingly heroic Ron Fuller “Chariots of Fire” montage… despite Ron being a full blown heel
• A fiery angle (literally) as The Flame cooks Bullet Bob Armstrong’s arm to set up a huge return match on TV
• Chaos in the closing moments as Austin Idol, Lord Humongous, the Stud Stable, and the Armstrongs all collide
• Gene and Robb’s territory nerd deep dive on loaded masks, spot calling, and how Continental protected its babyfaces better than most modern companies
• Vintage 1985 commercials featuring: King Furniture, U.S. Army recruitment, and enough used cars to fill two football stadiums

If you grew up on Memphis, Mid-South, or Georgia, CCW feels like home and this episode shows why. The crowds are hot, the angles are sharp, and the booking is old school southern wrestling at its peak.

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In this episode, Robb traces his journey from a six year old kid accidentally discovering wrestling on WTBS… to following the territory system across the country thanks to his dad’s Walmart career… to sitting in the legendary Dallas Sportatorium… to going to Nashville for a very EYE OPENING Saturday night at the Fairgrounds… and eventually working the workers himself in one of the most unbelievable “mark turned agent” stories you’ll ever hear.

You’ll hear:

🔥 Robb’s first live wrestling experience and why it terrified him
🔥 Growing up on Mid-South, Crockett, Memphis,World Class, and eventually Global….
 🔥 Behind-the-scenes stories involving Dave Sullivan (The Equalizer) aka Bill Dannenhauer and working the boys
 🔥 Being “smartened up” the hard way
 🔥 The Classic Memphis era and the Lawler/Dundee feud from a fan’s perspective
 🔥 The Dallas Sportatorium atmosphere and Friday night rituals
 🔥 Thoughts on kayfabe sheets, the Wrestling Observer, and learning the business
 🔥 Why Robb still watches wrestling through 10-year-old eyes
 🔥 How he eventually became part of the Retro Wrestling Re-View team

This is one of those episodes that perfectly captures what In The Studio with BT is all about, real stories, real fandom, real history, and that blurred line between mark and smark that makes wrestling magic.

If you love territory talk, Memphis history, Dallas memories, and honest wrestling conversation, this episode is for you.

This episode features:

• A flashback to K-Swiss’ heated confrontation with Scott Steiner
• K-Swiss vs. "Big Trouble" Ben Bishop
• Dorian Vain challenging Thom Latimer for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
• Exclusive interviews from Roman McPeake with several rising EPW stars
• Behind-the-scenes conversations with members of The Order, The Vybe Check, Los Desafios, The Black List, and more!

Plus, we preview the huge Fury in the Fifth 2 event and highlight the momentum building across EPW as rivalries intensify and new challengers emerge.

You never know what’s going to happen in EPW and this episode proves it.

This week on Retro Wrestling with Gene Jackson, we go BIG… literally.

Gene is joined by special guest co-host Robb Helt, and together they sit down with the man behind one of the most intimidating masked gimmicks of the 1980s, “Lord Humongous” Jeff Van Camp.

From a 6’9", 300 pound defensive tackle at the University of Louisville to becoming one of the most feared monsters in Memphis, Southeastern, Continental, Mid-South, and beyond , Jeff’s journey into wrestling is unlike any other you’ve heard before. After a two hour crash training course from the "King" himself, Jerry Lawler.....Jeff suddenly found himself on the road on wild, weird, and wonderful world of professional wrestling.

Highlighted by the quote: "You know you’re over when you get stabbed!”

Inside this episode:

- How Jerry “The King” Lawler personally trained Jeff inside the Mid-South Coliseum and handed him his first booking sheet.
- Early lessons from Buddy Landell (including the story behind Jeff’s first pair of wrestling boots).
- The creation of the Lord Humongous gimmick, from pantyhose under the hockey mask to War Machine by KISS as entrance music.
- Traveling the Southeastern loop with Austin Idol, Bob Armstrong, Jerry Stubbs, and the Armstrong family.

- Getting STABBED by a fan in Jackson, Mississippi during his Mid-South run.
- Working an hour long match with Ric Flair and "winning" the NWA Title in Birmingham.
- Fishing trips with Scott and Steve Armstrong in Gulf Breeze.
- Missed picture money opportunities in Continental Wrestling.
- The decision to leave Continental for Bill Watts’ Mid-South territory.

Jeff shares incredible firsthand stories about Lance Russell, Gordon Solie, Jim Ross, Ron Fuller, Porkchop Cash, Jake Roberts, John Nord, Dr. Death Steve Williams, and so many more, offering a rare, behind the mask look at territory wrestling during one of its most volatile and magical eras.

This isn’t just a career recap.
It’s a deep dive into how a football player fell into wrestling… and became a monster!

The episode is dominated by the Ric Flair contract saga, with mounting evidence that Flair is WWE bound. Osborne covers WCW’s failed attempts to bring Flair back as head booker, speculation that Titan will recognize Flair as a world champion, and growing belief that Flair vs. Hulk Hogan is inevitable. The sense of finality surrounding Flair’s WCW exit looms over nearly every discussion.

Major topics and segments include:

• Continued fallout from Ric Flair leaving WCW, including reports of Titan Television acknowledging his championship status
• Intense criticism of Jim Herd and Dusty Rhodes, with speculation about backstage power struggles and possible outside influence
• Detailed coverage of Eddie Gilbert and Cactus Jack’s Philadelphia war, described by multiple witnesses as a legitimate “match of the year” contender
  • Real glass used in the match
  • Significant venue damage
  • Medical and athletic commission fallout
  • Reports that officials feared a legitimate death or career-ending injury
• Updates on WCW tryouts for Eddie Gilbert and Cactus Jack, including backstage tension with Jim Ross
• Extensive discussion of steroid abuse, testing policies, and the WWF’s public relations campaign
• Analysis of Hulk Hogan’s steroid denials, Dr. George Zahorian’s trial testimony, and contradictions in Hogan’s statements
• Rumors and speculation surrounding Ultimate Warrior’s resignation, SummerSlam plans, and WWF locker-room instability
• Coverage of independent wrestling growth, including Joel Goodhart’s Tri-State Wrestling Alliance, Autumn Armageddon II, and extreme stipulations
• Reports and commentary from international correspondents, including Joe Massinio (Australia) and Dr. Mike Lano’s Japanese wrestling report, covering FMW, JWP, Medusa Miceli, and New Japan relations
• A major announcement from Brian Tramel, ending his newsletter work to launch a new Mississippi-based promotion with Eddie Gilbert involvement
• Listener contests, tape trading, and insight into the pre-internet wrestling underground economy

The episode also reflects a philosophical shift for Cassette Wrestling News itself- less chaos, more reporting, but no shortage of anger, disbelief, and passion as Osborne grapples with what many fans saw as the collapse of professional wrestling’s credibility.

Episode #17 stands as a crucial bridge between the raw volatility of Episode #16 and the evolving direction of CWN, documenting the moment when rumors became reality and the modern wrestling landscape began to take shape.

From growing up in Chicago watching WWF Superstars and Saturday Night’s Main Event… to discovering wrestling through magazines like Pro Wrestling Illustrated… to thinking you could just “apply at WWE like McDonald’s”… Mike walks us through the real journey that turned a lifelong fan into a seasoned professional.

In this candid, no-script, call-it-in-the-ring conversation, you’ll hear:

🔥 Growing up between Chicago and Atlanta during the WWF vs. WCW era
🔥 Seeing Macho Man & Hogan vs. Sting & Luger live during WCW’s hottest period
🔥 Training under Rodney Mack & Jazz, and the brutal pre-show drills that built real pros
🔥 The difference between gym cardio and wrestling cardio
🔥 Learning psychology instead of just “move, move, move”
🔥 The long Texas drives as part of the OMGs tag team
🔥 Working under Teddy Long’s mentorship in SWE
🔥 The business lessons you don’t learn in the ring
🔥 Being there from Day One of Memphis Wrestling’s revival
🔥 Why reliability and availability matter more than flashy moves

Mike opens up about the mental side of wrestling, the politics, the trust factor in locker rooms, and why Memphis Wrestling felt like the right place to invest long-term. There’s real insight here about paying your dues, evolving with the business, and understanding that sometimes your “pay” isn’t money, it’s knowledge and you can’t put a price on that.

This is wrestling talk the way it’s meant to be: honest, layered, and completely authentic.

Welcome to In The Studio with BT.

This is the night of the infamous Thunder Cage, where the company tries to sell you on an “electrified” super-structure while the undercard does its best to either build momentum… or test your patience. Gene and Bob break down the entire card, the production quirks, the commentary insanity, and the classic late-’80s WCW vibe where every match feels like it’s happening in a different universe.

Along the way, they dig into:

• Why the Thunder Cage concept is both ridiculous and weirdly compelling
• The undercard that swings between solid wrestling and pure filler bulls***
• Vintage WCW presentation: goofy graphics, wild logic leaps, and promos that promote absolutely nothing
• The little moments that make 1989 WCW so fun to revisit, even when it’s completely illogical

If you love retro WCW with honest analysis, sarcastic play-by-play, and zero nostalgia blinders, this one delivers: a pay-per-view built around a giant gimmick, held together by sheer bravado, and remembered because only WCW would try something this bold (and this absurd) in 1989, where a grudge tag team match in an alleged “electrified” steel cage with dollar store decorations attached to it, is refereed by “Living Legend” Bruno Sammartino in his hometown. (still not as embarrassing as his stint in Herb Abrams’ UWF a couple of years later)

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Rick has built a reputation for tracking down wrestlers you haven’t heard from in years, guys like Vladimir Koloff, Jimmy “the Original Dirty White Boy” Powell, Richard Sartain, Joe Malenko, and more, giving them a real platform to tell their stories.

In this episode, they talk about:

- Rick growing up in Connecticut during the 80s wrestling boom
- Discovering Memphis, World Class, AWA, and Southern wrestling through magazines and tape trading
- The lost art of tape trading (and getting burned chasing rare footage)
- Herb Abrams’ UWF:  the good, the bad, and the non-finishes!
- Heel Tony Atlas in IWCCW
- Tracking down hard to find wrestling personalities for interviews
- What makes a great wrestling interview
- Podcasting in today’s wrestling landscape

They also get into Barry Horowitz, Rod Price, Keith Steinborn, and the importance of preserving wrestling history through long form conversations.

If you’re a fan of territory wrestling, lost promotions, or just two wrestling lifers talking shop, this one’s for you!

As national expansion was reshaping the industry, Continental worked to establish itself as a serious Southern territory alternative, blending traditional territory storytelling, strong personality driven promos, and a more arena based television presentation style.

In this episode, Gene and Robb explore:

• How Continental was transitioning away from the Southeastern identity
• Roster structure and character positioning in mid 1985
• Differences between Continental, Memphis, Mid-South, and national WWF TV styles
• TWO CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHES ON TV THIS WEEK!
• Lord Humongous in action, A wild video from the Flame, The Nightmares defend against Tommy Rich & Steve Armstrong, We hear from Bob Armstrong, Austin Idol, “TN. Stud” Ron Fuller, and more!!

The episode continues the broader goal of the series: documenting surviving Continental footage while placing it into historical context for modern wrestling fans. (With some fun local 80s commercials from Alabama mixed in!)

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(DISCLAIMER: “Memphis Monroe” is a parody comedy gimmick of Gene Jackson, BT got a lot of flack from offended listeners back when originally aired)

Recorded live on September 12, 1989, this Clash features marquee names, promising feuds, and multiple moments where WCW almost gets everything right before tripping over its own booking.

Matches include:

* The Road Warriors vs. the Samoan SWAT Team and the value of believable selling

* Sid Vicious’ dominance and why squashes sometimes worked

* Ric Flair’s status, presentation, and the strange optics of “Ric Flair Day”

* The Missy Hyatt/Robin Green shopping segment and WCW’s tonal whiplash

* Freebirds vs. Steiners and the dangers of overcomplicated finishes

* Brian Pillman’s upside vs. Norman the Lunatic’s gimmick ceiling

* Lex Luger vs. Tommy Rich and a U.S. Title finish that confuses more than it satisfied

* Why Clash shows often felt important… until they didn’t

This episode is a snapshot of WCW at a crossroads, stacked with talent, full of ideas, and constantly undermining itself.

If you enjoy wrestling history with honesty, humor, and zero nostalgia blinders, this one delivers.

The episode is dominated by the aftermath of Ric Flair’s departure from WCW, with hosts John Seaton and Jeff Osborne unleashing sustained fury at Jim Herd and Dusty Rhodes, whom they blame for forcing out the greatest world champion of all time. The show opens with detailed discussion of Flair’s contract dispute, WCW cutting off the “sheets,” and the growing war between wrestling management and independent media.

From there, the episode escalates rapidly both in subject matter and on-air tension.

Major topics include:

Continued fallout from Ric Flair leaving WCW, including speculation on his future and the long-term damage to the NWA

WCW creative chaos, endless heel/face turns, gimmick overload, and backlash to The Great American Bash

Harsh criticism of Jim Herd, Dusty Rhodes, and WCW’s booking philosophy

Coverage of WWF steroid fallout, Vince McMahon’s public statements, and deep skepticism toward WWF’s “clean image” narrative

Explosive discussion of rumors involving HIV testing, resignations, and locker-room secrecy (presented as rumor and speculation within the context of the era)

Reports from Dr. Mike Lano on Japanese wrestling and growing international tension between WCW and New Japan

Extensive coverage of John Arezzi’s infiltration of a WWF press conference, including firsthand audio detailing Titan’s hostility toward wrestling media

Promotions, mail-order tapes, newsletters, hotlines, and conventions that formed the early wrestling media ecosystem

Most notoriously, Episode #16 features a complete on-air meltdown, culminating in a heated argument between Seaton and Osborne that turns physical, leading to Seaton being fired live on tape, a moment that blurs the line between shoot, work, and pure chaos in a way few modern podcasts would dare attempt.

The episode later pivots back to wrestling coverage, including:

A full John Arezzi interview breaking down WWF press manipulation

A classic Jersey Devil segment from the CWN archives

Editorial reactions from listeners and newsletter writers

Additional rumors surrounding WCW, WWF, UWF, and the state of the industry

Episode #16 stands as a raw, uncomfortable, and historically fascinating snapshot of wrestling fandom before social media, where rumor traveled by cassette, media battles were fought in real time, and unfiltered emotion ruled the airwaves.

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Starting with the debut episode of Continental Championship Wrestling on June 15, 1985 following the transition from Southeastern Championship Wrestling, a time when the WWF expansion was accelerating, and territories were fighting to survive by evolving their presentation and identity.

Along the way, Gene and Robb explore:

* How Continental positioned itself as a major Southern territory

* Why Gordon Solie’s presence added instant credibility

* The transition from studio wrestling to an arena style television presentation

* The historical importance of Boutwell Auditorium in Birmingham

* The differences between Continental, Memphis, Mid-South, and national WWF programming

* What made Continental unique in the mid-80s wrestling ecosystem

This episode is both a show review and a historical starting point for the Continental series and the beginning of documenting whatever surviving footage exists.

The episode opens with extensive discussion of Cactus Jack vs. Eddie Gilbert, praised as one of the hottest feuds in wrestling, while also covering Eddie Gilbert’s departure from Memphis and speculation about his future in WCW. From there, the show spirals into a wide-ranging, often chaotic breakdown of the wrestling world, touching on WCW production blunders, the flood of new gimmicks under Jim Herd and Dusty Rhodes, and frustration over creative direction.

A major focal point of the episode is the breaking (and ultimately historic) news that Ric Flair is leaving WCW, with Seaton and Osborne treating the situation as an existential crisis for the NWA. The hosts passionately debate Flair’s value, Dusty Rhodes’ influence, and what the future might hold including early speculation about Flair heading to the WWF.

The episode also features:

* A detailed arena report from Australia courtesy of Joe Messinio

* Coverage of the George Zahorian steroid trial, with audio from John Arezzi and commentary from Superstar Billy Graham

* Blunt discussion of wrestling tabloids, scandals, and media coverage surrounding Hulk Hogan and the WWF

* Criticism of wrestler pay, territory economics, and the declining state of the USWA

* A full live event recap from the Evansville Coliseum, including Jerry Lawler, Eric Embry, Tony Anthony, Tom Pritchard, and more

* Satirical sketches, impressions, and the raw, unfiltered banter that defined CWN in that era

Episode #15 is a vivid snapshot of how hardcore fans consumed, debated, and documented wrestling news before podcasts, social media, or streaming complete with rumor, outrage, dark humor, and genuine passion for the business.

This transcript is preserved as part of an archival effort to document Cassette Wrestling News as one of the earliest true ancestors of modern pro wrestling podcasts.

This episode features coverage and fallout from recent EPW events, including discussion surrounding the NWA World Heavyweight Championship match featuring Silas Mason vs. Aaron Roberts, along with insight into the championship landscape and the growing tension between top contenders inside EPW.

The show also highlights the personalities that make EPW run every week, including a featured sit-down conversation with EPW ring announcer Allen Pounds, giving fans a look at the man behind the microphone and what it’s like having one of the closest seats to the action in the building.

Also on this episode:

* EPW correspondent Roman McPeake checks in to break down recent show results and story developments

* Flashback match coverage from Fury in the Fifth, featuring former WWE Superstar James Ellsworth vs. Marko “Hangtime” Harris, with additional memories and behind the scenes discussion with Neil Taylor

* Interview segments with EPW Heavyweight Champion Dorian Vain, plus conversations Zay Washington and Diana Taylor

* Ongoing storyline developments involving The Order, Aaron Roberts, and the EPW Heavyweight title picture

Plus, discussion of major upcoming EPW events including announcements of major names appearing at future shows and continued growth of the promotion’s live event presence.

Inside EPW is where fans go beyond the matches to learn about the stories, personalities, and people that make EPW Wrestling what it is and what it will be in the future!

K-Swiss opens up about breaking into the business in the late 2000s, learning from veteran influences, and how the modern wrestling landscape differs from the territory-era training environments where many legends learned strictly on the road and in the ring rather than in structured schools.

The conversation also dives into the importance of mentorship and giving back to the next generation, something K-Swiss now finds himself doing after nearly two decades in the business, helping younger wrestlers navigate mistakes he once made himself.

Gene and K-Swiss also discuss EPW Wrestling’s philosophy of creating opportunities for local talent to work with nationally known names, allowing younger wrestlers to gain experience while maintaining the promotion’s reputation as a place where visiting stars are treated professionally and want to return.

Later in the interview, Swiss talks about his transition into his current on-screen authority/commissioner role blending serious authority with comedic timing and how the character draws inspiration from classic wrestling authority figures while still feeling unique to his personality.

The discussion also touches on:

* Working with major name talent and locker room culture lessons

* Balancing character evolution with real life physical wear and tear

* Adjusting roles in wrestling to extend longevity

* The pride of helping build a respected local wrestling product

This episode is part career retrospective, part modern wrestling philosophy discussion, and part behind the scenes look at what it takes to survive and evolve in today’s wrestling industry.

At the center of the show is an excellent Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk World Heavyweight Title match, a brutal, old-school brawl that stands head and shoulders above much of the card. Flair and Funk deliver raw emotion, violence, and storytelling that still holds up — and feels wildly out of place on a show that otherwise struggles with tone and consistency.

The episode also dives deep into Sting vs. The Great Muta for the TV Title, including the infamous ending that sees the match dissolve into chaos, confusion, and overbooking!

💥 Topics include:

* Why Flair vs. Funk is one of WCW’s most underrated main events

* Terry Funk’s ability to elevate chaos into storytelling

* Sting vs. Muta: greatness undercut by a unsatisfying finish

* The post main event scene that derails the ending and changes the feel of the show for the better

* How WCW’s VHS edits reshaped fan memory

* The King of the Hill Battle Royal and WCW’s love of pageantry

* The Skyscrapers, The Dynamic Dudes, and a botch that stole the show!

* Jim Cornette vs. Paul E. Dangerously in novelty match madness

* Lex Luger’s “last minute” stipulation change that gives away the finish

* A squeaky clean bloodless WARGAMES that isn’t bad, but isn’t memorable

This episode captures WCW at a crossroads — capable of brilliance, buried under bad decisions, and endlessly fascinating to revisit with hindsight.

You can listen in here, but if you want to actually WATCHALONG with Gene & Bob, you can join Patreon and check out all the episodes here https://www.patreon.com/collection/1840367

If you enjoy Gene & Bob’s shenanigans here on the WCW Podcast, check out their comedy/parody pro wrestling wrestling series “the Outlaw Wrasslin Federation” that ran for 52 consecutive weeks and features bad wrasslin, some of their favorite vintage commercials, and other silliness. Share with a friend who likes that sorta thing.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj5Zx1HZR2NlpRtuhrXoBImFRp50GjsIE&si=zoTptLkaTp0A3wHZ

From bizarre international wrestling clips and AI confusion, to a heavy dose of Dave Meltzer discourse, to debates about celebrity involvement in wrestling, this episode is exactly what the WTF News Desk is built for , breaking down the stories that make wrestling the most unpredictable form of entertainment on the planet.

This month’s episode also mixes in retro history, modern industry analysis, and plenty of off-the-rails commentary as the guys count down some of the wildest headlines and talking points currently floating around the wrestling world!

🔥 Topics This Month Include:

* The latest “is it real or AI?” wrestling video madness

* A deep dive into the ongoing Dave Meltzer discourse and influence debate

* Celebrity wrestling discussions from Logan Paul to Mr. Beast hypotheticals

* Social media drama and how it affects modern wrestling perception

* Industry commentary on business vs work-rate arguments

* Retro wrestling deep cuts and forgotten personalities

* Modern fan culture and how wrestling discourse keeps evolving

* The intersection of wrestling media, fandom, and online narrative building

🎧 About WTF News Desk

Each month, BT and Gene break down the 10 strangest, funniest, most confusing, and most fascinating wrestling topics happening right now — mixing serious discussion, humor, and the kind of honest takes you only get from guys who’ve lived inside the wrestling ecosystem for decades.

If it makes you say “what the hell was that?” — it probably ends up on this show.

Framed as a pseudo-documentary, Grunt centers on the infamous in-ring “accidental decapitation” of world champion Skull Crusher Johnson and the mysterious disappearance of Mad Dog Joe DeCurso… followed years later by the arrival of a masked wrestler known only as “The Mask.” Is he Mad Dog? Everyone has an opinion and none of them agree or necessarily make sense.

Gene breaks down the film’s bizarre tonal shifts, its surprisingly authentic portrayal of territory era wrestling, and why Grunt works far better as a historical time capsule than it ever did as a movie. Featuring real wrestlers like Dick Murdoch, Dick Beyer aka the Destroyer (unmasked), Adrian Street, John Tolos, Danny Spivey, and more, the wrestling itself feels ripped straight from a Saturday night TV studio in the mid-’80s, even when the script completely loses the plot.

Is Grunt a good movie? Absolutely not. Is it an important wrestling movie? Shockingly… maybe.

If you love oddball wrestling history, low-budget cinematic curiosities, and movies that somehow understand wrestling while also laughing at it, this episode is for you.

Episode 1 sets the foundation for what Inside EPW will be moving forward: interviews, news, discussion, flashbacks, and behind-the-scenes insight into one of the fastest growing independent wrestling promotions in the country!

On this episode:

* Gene Jackson introduces the vision behind Inside EPW

* Roman McPeak joins the show as EPW correspondent

* Roman discusses his wrestling fandom, content creation journey, and indie coverage

* Interviews with ‘Kick Flip” Isiah Cone, ‘The Ember” Shawn Aries, and the “Sweet One” Chuck Swann

* A Flashback segment revisiting the origins of the Initiative vs. Parental Advisory feud

* Discussion of EPW’s deep roster, strong women’s division, and evolving characters

* Gene sits down with EPW promoter Neil Taylor to reflect on EPW’s growth, locker room culture, and major plans for 2026

* A look at EPW’s expanding TV footprint and why the promotion continues to level up

This episode isn’t just an introduction, it’s a statement of intent. Inside EPW is about spotlighting the talent, the stories, and the people building EPW from the inside out.

Episode 1 feels like a pilot, not just introducing faces, but establishing Inside EPW as a long-term platform for storytelling, growth, and transparency within the promotion.

📺 New episodes coming soon.👍 Like, subscribe, and stay locked in.

With Ric Flair sidelined by injury and Terry Funk running amok, WCW is in a fascinating transitional moment while creatively hot and absolutely packed with talent. This Clash sits right in the middle of the road to The Great American Bash ’89 and perfectly captures WCW’s unique mix of elite wrestling, bizarre gimmicks, and still at times, head scratching booking decisions.

On this episode, Gene and Bob discuss:

* The Funk / Flair injury angle fallout

* The Freebirds’ latest incarnation and tag team tournament drama

* Eddie Gilbert’s fireball chaos

* The Ding Dongs (yes, the same creative team that brings you Funk/Flair brings you the DING DONGS AND NORMAN THE LUNATIC)

* The brutal Fort Bragg June Heatwave and crowd energy

* WCW’s strengths, flaws, and why this era still holds up in spite of it all

Whether you watched this live on TBS back in the day or you’re discovering it for the first time, this episode delivers context, commentary, laughs, and straight shooting analysis of a Clash that perfectly represents WCW’s wild peak year.

🎙️ Retro Wrestling Re-View WCW Podcast — preserving the good, the bad, and the often inexplicable of World Championship Wrestling.

You can listen in here, but if you want to actually WATCHALONG with Gene & Bob, you can join Patreon and check out all the episodes here https://www.patreon.com/collection/1840367

If you enjoy Gene & Bob’s shenanigans here on the WCW Podcast, check out their comedy/parody pro wrestling wrestling series “the Outlaw Wrasslin Federation” that ran for 52 consecutive weeks and features bad wrasslin, some of their favorite vintage commercials, and other silliness. Share with a friend who likes that sorta thing.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj5Zx1HZR2NlpRtuhrXoBImFRp50GjsIE&si=zoTptLkaTp0A3wHZ

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