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    <description>Mitch Long started in insurance with a pager and a roll of quarters. Thirty years later he's still showing up — and now he's having the conversations that don't usually make it onto a LinkedIn post.

The Long Game is where Mitch sits down with business owners, founders, and people who've been around long enough to know what actually works. They talk about how they got started, what they got wrong, what they'd do differently, and why the basics still win.

And sometimes Mitch and his son Adam sound off on First and Long — their ongoing football conversation about the NFL, their beloved Steelers, and why six Super Bowls still doesn't make the heartbreak any easier. First and long usually means your team just screwed up. Sounds about right. First and Long is a SportsEpreneur series.

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The Long Game is where Mitch sits down with business owners, founders, and people who've been around long enough to know what actually works. They talk about how they got started, what they got wrong, what they'd do differently, and why the basics still win.

And sometimes Mitch and his son Adam sound off on First and Long — their ongoing football conversation about the NFL, their beloved Steelers, and why six Super Bowls still doesn't make the heartbreak any easier. First and long usually means your team just screwed up. Sounds about right. First and Long is a SportsEpreneur series.

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        <![CDATA[<p>How one backyard hive became a full-time business built around honey, education, and keeping bees for other people.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Justin Orders, founder of Queen’s Orders Honey in Huntersville, North Carolina. Justin shares how a lifelong interest in insects, a volunteer role at Discovery Place Nature, and one hive purchased in 2018 led him into beekeeping full time.</p><p><br>They get into swarms, hive splitting, honey production, drought, invasive pests, and the work required to keep colonies healthy. Justin also explains how his Hive Host program, training, removals, tours, and school presentations turned a niche interest into a business with several sources of income.</p><p>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><ul><li>How Justin’s interest in insects led him to beekeeping</li><li>Starting with one hive and learning through trial and error</li><li>How queens, swarms, and hive splitting work</li><li>Protecting colonies from Varroa mites and other threats</li><li>How weather and drought affect honey production</li><li>Building the Hive Host program around customer demand</li><li>Creating multiple revenue streams from beekeeping</li><li>Harvesting raw local honey and planning for future growth</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br>00:21 – Mitch introduces Justin and Queen’s Orders Honey<br>00:39 – College, biology, and an early interest in entomology<br>01:32 – Why working with insects felt like a calling<br>01:44 – Volunteering at Discovery Place Nature and discovering beekeeping<br>02:05 – Buying the first hive in 2018<br>02:34 – How a hive works as a superorganism<br>03:25 – Splitting one hive into two<br>04:52 – Catching a swarm and locating the queen<br>05:37 – How aggressive honeybees really are<br>06:32 – Protective equipment and where bees tend to sting<br>07:53 – Early mistakes and learning through experience<br>08:49 – Varroa mites and the biggest threat to a hive<br>10:04 – Nectar, pollen, and where bees find food<br>10:35 – Why honey changes color and flavor through the season<br>11:22 – Finding a market for the Hive Host program<br>12:14 – Producing more than 1,000 pounds of honey<br>12:42 – How drought and rainfall affect nectar flow<br>13:35 – North Carolina’s beekeeping community<br>14:10 – The homemade honey sign that started attracting customers<br>14:57 – Hive hosting, training, removals, honey, and school programs<br>15:36 – Managing hives for roughly 50 clients<br>16:30 – What makes a good location for a hive<br>18:00 – Seasonality and the challenges of running the business<br>19:00 – Moving hives for sourwood honey and learning from losses<br>19:46 – How bees survive the winter<br>20:24 – Harvesting and lightly filtering raw honey<br>22:16 – Predators, pests, and the yellow-legged hornet<br>23:30 – Ordering honey and connecting with Queen’s Orders Honey<br>24:29 – Justin’s plans for a more focused business<br>25:31 – How long a new hive takes to produce honey<br>26:29 – Teaching children about bees and pollination<br>27:19 – Simple ways people can support native bees</p><p><br>CONNECT WITH MITCH LONG</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Read: Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p>CONNECT WITH JUSTIN ORDERS</p><p><a href="https://www.queensordershoney.com/">Queen’s Orders Honey</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/queensordershoney/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/queensordershoney/">Facebook</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-orders-0b24a91a5">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br>MORE FROM THE KAZSOURCE NETWORK</p><p><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/tuttis-italian-market-tom-cook/">Italian Food, Family, and Community with Tom Cook of Tutti’s</a> — The Long Game<br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/victory-sim-experience-casey-mahoney/">From NASCAR Garages to Sim Racing: Casey Mahoney of Victory Sim</a> — The Long Game</p><p><br>ABOUT THIS PODCAST AND SERIES</p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. It is produced by QuietLoud Studios, a KazSource brand.</p><p><br>GET IN TOUCH WITH ERIC KASIMOV</p><p><a href="https://x.com/Eric_Kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br>CREDITS</p><p>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How one backyard hive became a full-time business built around honey, education, and keeping bees for other people.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Justin Orders, founder of Queen’s Orders Honey in Huntersville, North Carolina. Justin shares how a lifelong interest in insects, a volunteer role at Discovery Place Nature, and one hive purchased in 2018 led him into beekeeping full time.</p><p><br>They get into swarms, hive splitting, honey production, drought, invasive pests, and the work required to keep colonies healthy. Justin also explains how his Hive Host program, training, removals, tours, and school presentations turned a niche interest into a business with several sources of income.</p><p>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><ul><li>How Justin’s interest in insects led him to beekeeping</li><li>Starting with one hive and learning through trial and error</li><li>How queens, swarms, and hive splitting work</li><li>Protecting colonies from Varroa mites and other threats</li><li>How weather and drought affect honey production</li><li>Building the Hive Host program around customer demand</li><li>Creating multiple revenue streams from beekeeping</li><li>Harvesting raw local honey and planning for future growth</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br>00:21 – Mitch introduces Justin and Queen’s Orders Honey<br>00:39 – College, biology, and an early interest in entomology<br>01:32 – Why working with insects felt like a calling<br>01:44 – Volunteering at Discovery Place Nature and discovering beekeeping<br>02:05 – Buying the first hive in 2018<br>02:34 – How a hive works as a superorganism<br>03:25 – Splitting one hive into two<br>04:52 – Catching a swarm and locating the queen<br>05:37 – How aggressive honeybees really are<br>06:32 – Protective equipment and where bees tend to sting<br>07:53 – Early mistakes and learning through experience<br>08:49 – Varroa mites and the biggest threat to a hive<br>10:04 – Nectar, pollen, and where bees find food<br>10:35 – Why honey changes color and flavor through the season<br>11:22 – Finding a market for the Hive Host program<br>12:14 – Producing more than 1,000 pounds of honey<br>12:42 – How drought and rainfall affect nectar flow<br>13:35 – North Carolina’s beekeeping community<br>14:10 – The homemade honey sign that started attracting customers<br>14:57 – Hive hosting, training, removals, honey, and school programs<br>15:36 – Managing hives for roughly 50 clients<br>16:30 – What makes a good location for a hive<br>18:00 – Seasonality and the challenges of running the business<br>19:00 – Moving hives for sourwood honey and learning from losses<br>19:46 – How bees survive the winter<br>20:24 – Harvesting and lightly filtering raw honey<br>22:16 – Predators, pests, and the yellow-legged hornet<br>23:30 – Ordering honey and connecting with Queen’s Orders Honey<br>24:29 – Justin’s plans for a more focused business<br>25:31 – How long a new hive takes to produce honey<br>26:29 – Teaching children about bees and pollination<br>27:19 – Simple ways people can support native bees</p><p><br>CONNECT WITH MITCH LONG</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Read: Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p>CONNECT WITH JUSTIN ORDERS</p><p><a href="https://www.queensordershoney.com/">Queen’s Orders Honey</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/queensordershoney/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/queensordershoney/">Facebook</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-orders-0b24a91a5">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br>MORE FROM THE KAZSOURCE NETWORK</p><p><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/tuttis-italian-market-tom-cook/">Italian Food, Family, and Community with Tom Cook of Tutti’s</a> — The Long Game<br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/victory-sim-experience-casey-mahoney/">From NASCAR Garages to Sim Racing: Casey Mahoney of Victory Sim</a> — The Long Game</p><p><br>ABOUT THIS PODCAST AND SERIES</p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. It is produced by QuietLoud Studios, a KazSource brand.</p><p><br>GET IN TOUCH WITH ERIC KASIMOV</p><p><a href="https://x.com/Eric_Kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br>CREDITS</p><p>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How one backyard hive became a full-time business built around honey, education, and keeping bees for other people.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Justin Orders, founder of Queen’s Orders Honey in Huntersville, North Carolina. Justin shares how a lifelong interest in insects, a volunteer role at Discovery Place Nature, and one hive purchased in 2018 led him into beekeeping full time.</p><p><br>They get into swarms, hive splitting, honey production, drought, invasive pests, and the work required to keep colonies healthy. Justin also explains how his Hive Host program, training, removals, tours, and school presentations turned a niche interest into a business with several sources of income.</p><p>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><ul><li>How Justin’s interest in insects led him to beekeeping</li><li>Starting with one hive and learning through trial and error</li><li>How queens, swarms, and hive splitting work</li><li>Protecting colonies from Varroa mites and other threats</li><li>How weather and drought affect honey production</li><li>Building the Hive Host program around customer demand</li><li>Creating multiple revenue streams from beekeeping</li><li>Harvesting raw local honey and planning for future growth</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br>00:21 – Mitch introduces Justin and Queen’s Orders Honey<br>00:39 – College, biology, and an early interest in entomology<br>01:32 – Why working with insects felt like a calling<br>01:44 – Volunteering at Discovery Place Nature and discovering beekeeping<br>02:05 – Buying the first hive in 2018<br>02:34 – How a hive works as a superorganism<br>03:25 – Splitting one hive into two<br>04:52 – Catching a swarm and locating the queen<br>05:37 – How aggressive honeybees really are<br>06:32 – Protective equipment and where bees tend to sting<br>07:53 – Early mistakes and learning through experience<br>08:49 – Varroa mites and the biggest threat to a hive<br>10:04 – Nectar, pollen, and where bees find food<br>10:35 – Why honey changes color and flavor through the season<br>11:22 – Finding a market for the Hive Host program<br>12:14 – Producing more than 1,000 pounds of honey<br>12:42 – How drought and rainfall affect nectar flow<br>13:35 – North Carolina’s beekeeping community<br>14:10 – The homemade honey sign that started attracting customers<br>14:57 – Hive hosting, training, removals, honey, and school programs<br>15:36 – Managing hives for roughly 50 clients<br>16:30 – What makes a good location for a hive<br>18:00 – Seasonality and the challenges of running the business<br>19:00 – Moving hives for sourwood honey and learning from losses<br>19:46 – How bees survive the winter<br>20:24 – Harvesting and lightly filtering raw honey<br>22:16 – Predators, pests, and the yellow-legged hornet<br>23:30 – Ordering honey and connecting with Queen’s Orders Honey<br>24:29 – Justin’s plans for a more focused business<br>25:31 – How long a new hive takes to produce honey<br>26:29 – Teaching children about bees and pollination<br>27:19 – Simple ways people can support native bees</p><p><br>CONNECT WITH MITCH LONG</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Read: Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p>CONNECT WITH JUSTIN ORDERS</p><p><a href="https://www.queensordershoney.com/">Queen’s Orders Honey</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/queensordershoney/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/queensordershoney/">Facebook</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-orders-0b24a91a5">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br>MORE FROM THE KAZSOURCE NETWORK</p><p><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/tuttis-italian-market-tom-cook/">Italian Food, Family, and Community with Tom Cook of Tutti’s</a> — The Long Game<br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/victory-sim-experience-casey-mahoney/">From NASCAR Garages to Sim Racing: Casey Mahoney of Victory Sim</a> — The Long Game</p><p><br>ABOUT THIS PODCAST AND SERIES</p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. It is produced by QuietLoud Studios, a KazSource brand.</p><p><br>GET IN TOUCH WITH ERIC KASIMOV</p><p><a href="https://x.com/Eric_Kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br>CREDITS</p><p>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What Mike Calinoff learned from spotting race cars, reading people, and helping dog owners understand what their dogs are really doing.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Mike Calinoff about NASCAR, dog training, and the path that led him from race-day communication to canine behavior. Mike shares how he came to North Carolina for motorsports, worked as a NASCAR spotter, and eventually built Doglogics after seeing how many dog owners needed real help at home.</p><p><br>They also get into positive reinforcement, why most dog training is really people training, and how predictability shapes behavior. It is a conversation about patience, problem solving, and building a business around helping families live better with their dogs.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p><br>Growing up in New York and moving to North Carolina for motorsports<br>Working as a NASCAR spotter<br>The psychology of drivers and dogs<br>Why Mike started a pet sitting business<br>How Doglogics grew into dog training and behavior work<br>Why training owners matters more than training dogs<br>Puppy stages, jumping, chewing, and leash pulling<br>Why Mike does not use shock, prong, pinch, bark, or choke collars<br>Reactive dogs, aggressive dogs, and difficult behavior cases<br>How consistency and predictability change a dog’s behavior</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p><br>00:20 – Mitch introduces Mike and asks where he is from<br>00:38 – Growing up in New York and moving to North Carolina<br>01:15 – Coming to Charlotte for motorsports<br>01:25 – Why Mike started a pet sitting business after NASCAR travel<br>02:07 – Moving to North Carolina to become a NASCAR spotter<br>03:00 – Getting paid to spot for Ricky Craven<br>03:13 – What a NASCAR spotter actually does<br>03:32 – Being a second set of eyes, therapist, coach, and cheerleader<br>04:00 – Working with Matt Kenseth and learning how drivers think<br>04:45 – Championships with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and leaving NASCAR travel<br>05:53 – Starting pet sitting and moving into dog training<br>06:28 – How dog psychology became the center of Mike’s work<br>07:24 – Why dog training is mostly training the owner<br>07:49 – Chewing cords, jumping, and what people accidentally teach dogs<br>08:24 – Why Mike avoids shock collars and punishment-based training<br>09:00 – Teaching calm behavior instead of rewarding jumping<br>10:27 – Puppy stages and why months four, seven, and eleven are hard<br>11:31 – Consistency, patience, and potty training<br>12:12 – Why dogs thrive on predictable patterns<br>13:18 – In-home training, field trips, and socialization in real life<br>14:04 – How Doglogics grew through results and referrals<br>14:30 – Behavioral cases, aggression, fear, and anxiety<br>16:27 – Why difficult cases are the work Mike loves most<br>17:15 – Food habits, routines, and keeping dogs engaged<br>19:09 – Why Mike handles the business himself<br>20:13 – What puppy training looks like before and after a dog comes home<br>21:20 – Why owners have to do the work between sessions<br>22:30 – Why the real training starts after Mike leaves<br>23:50 – Building a business by responding fast and helping people right away<br>26:50 – Leash pulling and opposition reflex<br>28:25 – Why Mike wrote Leash Connection<br>29:16 – Recall, relationship, and making the right choice worth it<br>30:24 – What to do when a dog runs away<br>33:26 – Mike’s books and his Legacy Series<br>34:04 – Why punishment can make fear and anxiety worse<br>35:28 – Where Mike sees the business going next<br>36:13 – Saving difficult dogs and the reward of behavior work<br>39:49 – Where to find Doglogics</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Mike Calinoff:</strong> <a href="https://www.doglogics.com/">Doglogics</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/doglogics/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/doglogicstraining/">Facebook</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/chip-goode-nascar-then-insurance/">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a> - The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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It is a conversation about patience, problem solving, and building a business around helping families live better with their dogs.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p><br>Growing up in New York and moving to North Carolina for motorsports<br>Working as a NASCAR spotter<br>The psychology of drivers and dogs<br>Why Mike started a pet sitting business<br>How Doglogics grew into dog training and behavior work<br>Why training owners matters more than training dogs<br>Puppy stages, jumping, chewing, and leash pulling<br>Why Mike does not use shock, prong, pinch, bark, or choke collars<br>Reactive dogs, aggressive dogs, and difficult behavior cases<br>How consistency and predictability change a dog’s behavior</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p><br>00:20 – Mitch introduces Mike and asks where he is from<br>00:38 – Growing up in New York and moving to North Carolina<br>01:15 – Coming to Charlotte for motorsports<br>01:25 – Why Mike started a pet sitting business after NASCAR travel<br>02:07 – Moving to North Carolina to become a NASCAR spotter<br>03:00 – Getting paid to spot for Ricky Craven<br>03:13 – What a NASCAR spotter actually does<br>03:32 – Being a second set of eyes, therapist, coach, and cheerleader<br>04:00 – Working with Matt Kenseth and learning how drivers think<br>04:45 – Championships with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and leaving NASCAR travel<br>05:53 – Starting pet sitting and moving into dog training<br>06:28 – How dog psychology became the center of Mike’s work<br>07:24 – Why dog training is mostly training the owner<br>07:49 – Chewing cords, jumping, and what people accidentally teach dogs<br>08:24 – Why Mike avoids shock collars and punishment-based training<br>09:00 – Teaching calm behavior instead of rewarding jumping<br>10:27 – Puppy stages and why months four, seven, and eleven are hard<br>11:31 – Consistency, patience, and potty training<br>12:12 – Why dogs thrive on predictable patterns<br>13:18 – In-home training, field trips, and socialization in real life<br>14:04 – How Doglogics grew through results and referrals<br>14:30 – Behavioral cases, aggression, fear, and anxiety<br>16:27 – Why difficult cases are the work Mike loves most<br>17:15 – Food habits, routines, and keeping dogs engaged<br>19:09 – Why Mike handles the business himself<br>20:13 – What puppy training looks like before and after a dog comes home<br>21:20 – Why owners have to do the work between sessions<br>22:30 – Why the real training starts after Mike leaves<br>23:50 – Building a business by responding fast and helping people right away<br>26:50 – Leash pulling and opposition reflex<br>28:25 – Why Mike wrote Leash Connection<br>29:16 – Recall, relationship, and making the right choice worth it<br>30:24 – What to do when a dog runs away<br>33:26 – Mike’s books and his Legacy Series<br>34:04 – Why punishment can make fear and anxiety worse<br>35:28 – Where Mike sees the business going next<br>36:13 – Saving difficult dogs and the reward of behavior work<br>39:49 – Where to find Doglogics</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Mike Calinoff:</strong> <a href="https://www.doglogics.com/">Doglogics</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/doglogics/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/doglogicstraining/">Facebook</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/chip-goode-nascar-then-insurance/">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a> - The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 23:04:06 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What Mike Calinoff learned from spotting race cars, reading people, and helping dog owners understand what their dogs are really doing.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Mike Calinoff about NASCAR, dog training, and the path that led him from race-day communication to canine behavior. Mike shares how he came to North Carolina for motorsports, worked as a NASCAR spotter, and eventually built Doglogics after seeing how many dog owners needed real help at home.</p><p><br>They also get into positive reinforcement, why most dog training is really people training, and how predictability shapes behavior. It is a conversation about patience, problem solving, and building a business around helping families live better with their dogs.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p><br>Growing up in New York and moving to North Carolina for motorsports<br>Working as a NASCAR spotter<br>The psychology of drivers and dogs<br>Why Mike started a pet sitting business<br>How Doglogics grew into dog training and behavior work<br>Why training owners matters more than training dogs<br>Puppy stages, jumping, chewing, and leash pulling<br>Why Mike does not use shock, prong, pinch, bark, or choke collars<br>Reactive dogs, aggressive dogs, and difficult behavior cases<br>How consistency and predictability change a dog’s behavior</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p><br>00:20 – Mitch introduces Mike and asks where he is from<br>00:38 – Growing up in New York and moving to North Carolina<br>01:15 – Coming to Charlotte for motorsports<br>01:25 – Why Mike started a pet sitting business after NASCAR travel<br>02:07 – Moving to North Carolina to become a NASCAR spotter<br>03:00 – Getting paid to spot for Ricky Craven<br>03:13 – What a NASCAR spotter actually does<br>03:32 – Being a second set of eyes, therapist, coach, and cheerleader<br>04:00 – Working with Matt Kenseth and learning how drivers think<br>04:45 – Championships with Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and leaving NASCAR travel<br>05:53 – Starting pet sitting and moving into dog training<br>06:28 – How dog psychology became the center of Mike’s work<br>07:24 – Why dog training is mostly training the owner<br>07:49 – Chewing cords, jumping, and what people accidentally teach dogs<br>08:24 – Why Mike avoids shock collars and punishment-based training<br>09:00 – Teaching calm behavior instead of rewarding jumping<br>10:27 – Puppy stages and why months four, seven, and eleven are hard<br>11:31 – Consistency, patience, and potty training<br>12:12 – Why dogs thrive on predictable patterns<br>13:18 – In-home training, field trips, and socialization in real life<br>14:04 – How Doglogics grew through results and referrals<br>14:30 – Behavioral cases, aggression, fear, and anxiety<br>16:27 – Why difficult cases are the work Mike loves most<br>17:15 – Food habits, routines, and keeping dogs engaged<br>19:09 – Why Mike handles the business himself<br>20:13 – What puppy training looks like before and after a dog comes home<br>21:20 – Why owners have to do the work between sessions<br>22:30 – Why the real training starts after Mike leaves<br>23:50 – Building a business by responding fast and helping people right away<br>26:50 – Leash pulling and opposition reflex<br>28:25 – Why Mike wrote Leash Connection<br>29:16 – Recall, relationship, and making the right choice worth it<br>30:24 – What to do when a dog runs away<br>33:26 – Mike’s books and his Legacy Series<br>34:04 – Why punishment can make fear and anxiety worse<br>35:28 – Where Mike sees the business going next<br>36:13 – Saving difficult dogs and the reward of behavior work<br>39:49 – Where to find Doglogics</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Mike Calinoff:</strong> <a href="https://www.doglogics.com/">Doglogics</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/doglogics/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/doglogicstraining/">Facebook</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/chip-goode-nascar-then-insurance/">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a> - The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Military, Retirement, and Planning for What Comes Next with Joe Sallee</title>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 25 years in the Navy taught Joe Sallee about planning ahead, managing risk, and helping people think beyond retirement.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Joe Sallee about military service, submarines, business, and the path that led him into financial planning. Joe shares how an early dream of flying in the Air Force turned into a 25-year Navy career on submarines, and how that eventually gave him the foundation for a second career helping people prepare for retirement.</p><p><br>They also get into the emotional side of money, why business owners often forget to plan for themselves, and how politics and headlines can derail good financial decisions. It is a practical conversation about long-term thinking, risk, and building a life that still has purpose after work ends.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p>Joe Sallee’s military background and life on submarines<br>How a physics degree led into nuclear training in the Navy<br>Getting interested in investing and financial planning early<br>The move from military service into financial advising<br>Why Joe first focused on helping military families transition<br>How business owners neglect their own planning<br>The role emotions and politics play in financial decisions<br>Why retirement planning has to include purpose, not just numbers<br>How Joe thinks about growing a business that outlasts the owner<br>Where insurance fits into a full financial plan</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:21 – Mitch introduces Joe and asks about his military background<br>00:48 – Growing up in an Air Force family and wanting to fly A-10s<br>02:00 – Why Joe ended up in the Navy and on submarines instead<br>02:43 – Spending 25 years in the Navy<br>02:56 – What life on a submarine is really like<br>03:28 – Oklahoma, college, and the years at the University of Oklahoma<br>05:53 – Why Joe studied physics<br>06:51 – How Joe got interested in investing and financial planning<br>08:04 – Getting recruited into the industry before leaving the Navy<br>09:00 – Starting out by helping military families transition<br>09:27 – Expanding beyond that niche into business owners<br>10:20 – Why smart professionals often neglect their own financial planning<br>11:14 – Joe’s philosophy and helping clients make their dreams come true<br>12:00 – Why retirement planning is also psychological<br>12:41 – The challenge of keeping politics and emotion out of decisions<br>14:00 – Why Joe tells clients to stop living in the news cycle<br>15:18 – The size of Joe’s team and the structure of the practice<br>15:35 – What he wants the business to become over time<br>16:39 – Building a practice that can run without the owner<br>17:00 – How Joe reviews insurance as part of planning<br>18:00 – Mitch on disability insurance and protecting income<br>19:25 – Long-term care and self-insuring later in life</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Joe Sallee:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/baycap/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.baycapitaladvice.com/team-member/joe-sallee">Bay Capital Advisors</a> | <a href="https://www.letsmakeaplan.org/find-a-cfp-professional/certified-professional-profile/5b4dbd46-cb05-41db-a3ef-15c66e849a77">CFP Profile</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/nick-okelly-green-beret-blackhawk-pilot-financial-planner/">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O’Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 25 years in the Navy taught Joe Sallee about planning ahead, managing risk, and helping people think beyond retirement.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Joe Sallee about military service, submarines, business, and the path that led him into financial planning. Joe shares how an early dream of flying in the Air Force turned into a 25-year Navy career on submarines, and how that eventually gave him the foundation for a second career helping people prepare for retirement.</p><p><br>They also get into the emotional side of money, why business owners often forget to plan for themselves, and how politics and headlines can derail good financial decisions. It is a practical conversation about long-term thinking, risk, and building a life that still has purpose after work ends.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p>Joe Sallee’s military background and life on submarines<br>How a physics degree led into nuclear training in the Navy<br>Getting interested in investing and financial planning early<br>The move from military service into financial advising<br>Why Joe first focused on helping military families transition<br>How business owners neglect their own planning<br>The role emotions and politics play in financial decisions<br>Why retirement planning has to include purpose, not just numbers<br>How Joe thinks about growing a business that outlasts the owner<br>Where insurance fits into a full financial plan</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:21 – Mitch introduces Joe and asks about his military background<br>00:48 – Growing up in an Air Force family and wanting to fly A-10s<br>02:00 – Why Joe ended up in the Navy and on submarines instead<br>02:43 – Spending 25 years in the Navy<br>02:56 – What life on a submarine is really like<br>03:28 – Oklahoma, college, and the years at the University of Oklahoma<br>05:53 – Why Joe studied physics<br>06:51 – How Joe got interested in investing and financial planning<br>08:04 – Getting recruited into the industry before leaving the Navy<br>09:00 – Starting out by helping military families transition<br>09:27 – Expanding beyond that niche into business owners<br>10:20 – Why smart professionals often neglect their own financial planning<br>11:14 – Joe’s philosophy and helping clients make their dreams come true<br>12:00 – Why retirement planning is also psychological<br>12:41 – The challenge of keeping politics and emotion out of decisions<br>14:00 – Why Joe tells clients to stop living in the news cycle<br>15:18 – The size of Joe’s team and the structure of the practice<br>15:35 – What he wants the business to become over time<br>16:39 – Building a practice that can run without the owner<br>17:00 – How Joe reviews insurance as part of planning<br>18:00 – Mitch on disability insurance and protecting income<br>19:25 – Long-term care and self-insuring later in life</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Joe Sallee:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/baycap/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.baycapitaladvice.com/team-member/joe-sallee">Bay Capital Advisors</a> | <a href="https://www.letsmakeaplan.org/find-a-cfp-professional/certified-professional-profile/5b4dbd46-cb05-41db-a3ef-15c66e849a77">CFP Profile</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/nick-okelly-green-beret-blackhawk-pilot-financial-planner/">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O’Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 22:08:42 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mitch Long</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 25 years in the Navy taught Joe Sallee about planning ahead, managing risk, and helping people think beyond retirement.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Joe Sallee about military service, submarines, business, and the path that led him into financial planning. Joe shares how an early dream of flying in the Air Force turned into a 25-year Navy career on submarines, and how that eventually gave him the foundation for a second career helping people prepare for retirement.</p><p><br>They also get into the emotional side of money, why business owners often forget to plan for themselves, and how politics and headlines can derail good financial decisions. It is a practical conversation about long-term thinking, risk, and building a life that still has purpose after work ends.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p>Joe Sallee’s military background and life on submarines<br>How a physics degree led into nuclear training in the Navy<br>Getting interested in investing and financial planning early<br>The move from military service into financial advising<br>Why Joe first focused on helping military families transition<br>How business owners neglect their own planning<br>The role emotions and politics play in financial decisions<br>Why retirement planning has to include purpose, not just numbers<br>How Joe thinks about growing a business that outlasts the owner<br>Where insurance fits into a full financial plan</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:21 – Mitch introduces Joe and asks about his military background<br>00:48 – Growing up in an Air Force family and wanting to fly A-10s<br>02:00 – Why Joe ended up in the Navy and on submarines instead<br>02:43 – Spending 25 years in the Navy<br>02:56 – What life on a submarine is really like<br>03:28 – Oklahoma, college, and the years at the University of Oklahoma<br>05:53 – Why Joe studied physics<br>06:51 – How Joe got interested in investing and financial planning<br>08:04 – Getting recruited into the industry before leaving the Navy<br>09:00 – Starting out by helping military families transition<br>09:27 – Expanding beyond that niche into business owners<br>10:20 – Why smart professionals often neglect their own financial planning<br>11:14 – Joe’s philosophy and helping clients make their dreams come true<br>12:00 – Why retirement planning is also psychological<br>12:41 – The challenge of keeping politics and emotion out of decisions<br>14:00 – Why Joe tells clients to stop living in the news cycle<br>15:18 – The size of Joe’s team and the structure of the practice<br>15:35 – What he wants the business to become over time<br>16:39 – Building a practice that can run without the owner<br>17:00 – How Joe reviews insurance as part of planning<br>18:00 – Mitch on disability insurance and protecting income<br>19:25 – Long-term care and self-insuring later in life</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Joe Sallee:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/baycap/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.baycapitaladvice.com/team-member/joe-sallee">Bay Capital Advisors</a> | <a href="https://www.letsmakeaplan.org/find-a-cfp-professional/certified-professional-profile/5b4dbd46-cb05-41db-a3ef-15c66e849a77">CFP Profile</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/nick-okelly-green-beret-blackhawk-pilot-financial-planner/">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O’Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Chris Ryan on Second Careers and Why Consistency Wins</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What Chris Ryan learned from elite sports, entrepreneurship, and helping busy people stay consistent.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Chris Ryan about athletics, business, family, and the path that took him from Division 1 track to entrepreneurship in finance, restoration, and fitness. Chris shares how injuries changed his direction early, how he built and sold a business in South Florida, and why he eventually came back to the health and fitness world in a bigger way.</p><p><br>They also get into corporate wellness, consistency, nutrition, and the reality of building something that lasts. It is a conversation about second careers, long-term thinking, and why taking care of yourself is not separate from business.</p><p><br><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</strong></p><p><br>Running for the Florida Gators and dealing with injuries<br>Moving from elite sports into business<br>Getting into finance and then buying into a Servpro business<br>Why Chris left one successful path to build something more meaningful<br>What Mirror changed about his view of at-home fitness<br>Why consistency matters more than intensity<br>The mindset shift from corporate work to entrepreneurship<br>Nutrition, alcohol, and the habits that add up over time<br>Family, kids, and trying to stay present while building a business<br>Why Chris sees corporate wellness as a major opportunity</p><p><br><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>00:20 – Mitch asks Chris about his background, athletics, and college<br>00:40 – Growing up in Michigan and living near New York now<br>01:00 – Running for the Florida Gators as a Division 1 athlete<br>01:21 – Injuries, leaving track, and transferring back to Michigan State<br>02:00 – Studying economics and international relations<br>02:22 – Early interest in business and finance<br>03:00 – Working in finance and realizing he wanted to build something of his own<br>03:35 – Getting into Servpro and learning to lead in his 20s<br>04:24 – Building a business in South Florida and growing up fast<br>05:14 – Franchising, expansion limits, and selling before the financial crisis<br>06:00 – Travel, reflection, and figuring out what came next<br>07:00 – Moving toward fitness, media, and coaching in New York<br>08:00 – Certifications, writing, and building a brand in fitness<br>08:30 – NBC Strong, Mirror, and the rise of interactive at-home fitness<br>11:00 – Starting his own fitness platform after Lululemon<br>12:00 – Building workouts for busy parents and executives<br>13:00 – Why consistency is the real advantage<br>15:00 – Mitch on running, aging, and the mental side of working out<br>16:40 – Chris on nutrition, protein, fiber, and cutting processed foods<br>19:00 – Why drinks and alcohol quietly hurt progress<br>25:28 – What is next for Chris and the move toward corporate wellness<br>27:00 – How wellness could help companies lower healthcare costs<br>29:09 – Building with contractors and vendors instead of W-2 employees<br>30:00 – Chris shares where people can find his app and coaching</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Chris Ryan:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisryanfitness/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chrisryanfitness/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://chrisryanfitness.com/">Chris Ryan Fitness</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios<br></strong>QuietLoud is a creative studio and podcast network. Shows, writing, clips, and the conditions for other creative work.</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/nil">SportsEpreneur NIL Hub</a><br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/labs">QuietLoud Labs</a><br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network">QuietLoud Network</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What Chris Ryan learned from elite sports, entrepreneurship, and helping busy people stay consistent.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Chris Ryan about athletics, business, family, and the path that took him from Division 1 track to entrepreneurship in finance, restoration, and fitness. Chris shares how injuries changed his direction early, how he built and sold a business in South Florida, and why he eventually came back to the health and fitness world in a bigger way.</p><p><br>They also get into corporate wellness, consistency, nutrition, and the reality of building something that lasts. It is a conversation about second careers, long-term thinking, and why taking care of yourself is not separate from business.</p><p><br><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</strong></p><p><br>Running for the Florida Gators and dealing with injuries<br>Moving from elite sports into business<br>Getting into finance and then buying into a Servpro business<br>Why Chris left one successful path to build something more meaningful<br>What Mirror changed about his view of at-home fitness<br>Why consistency matters more than intensity<br>The mindset shift from corporate work to entrepreneurship<br>Nutrition, alcohol, and the habits that add up over time<br>Family, kids, and trying to stay present while building a business<br>Why Chris sees corporate wellness as a major opportunity</p><p><br><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>00:20 – Mitch asks Chris about his background, athletics, and college<br>00:40 – Growing up in Michigan and living near New York now<br>01:00 – Running for the Florida Gators as a Division 1 athlete<br>01:21 – Injuries, leaving track, and transferring back to Michigan State<br>02:00 – Studying economics and international relations<br>02:22 – Early interest in business and finance<br>03:00 – Working in finance and realizing he wanted to build something of his own<br>03:35 – Getting into Servpro and learning to lead in his 20s<br>04:24 – Building a business in South Florida and growing up fast<br>05:14 – Franchising, expansion limits, and selling before the financial crisis<br>06:00 – Travel, reflection, and figuring out what came next<br>07:00 – Moving toward fitness, media, and coaching in New York<br>08:00 – Certifications, writing, and building a brand in fitness<br>08:30 – NBC Strong, Mirror, and the rise of interactive at-home fitness<br>11:00 – Starting his own fitness platform after Lululemon<br>12:00 – Building workouts for busy parents and executives<br>13:00 – Why consistency is the real advantage<br>15:00 – Mitch on running, aging, and the mental side of working out<br>16:40 – Chris on nutrition, protein, fiber, and cutting processed foods<br>19:00 – Why drinks and alcohol quietly hurt progress<br>25:28 – What is next for Chris and the move toward corporate wellness<br>27:00 – How wellness could help companies lower healthcare costs<br>29:09 – Building with contractors and vendors instead of W-2 employees<br>30:00 – Chris shares where people can find his app and coaching</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Chris Ryan:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisryanfitness/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chrisryanfitness/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://chrisryanfitness.com/">Chris Ryan Fitness</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios<br></strong>QuietLoud is a creative studio and podcast network. Shows, writing, clips, and the conditions for other creative work.</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/nil">SportsEpreneur NIL Hub</a><br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/labs">QuietLoud Labs</a><br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network">QuietLoud Network</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 22:22:48 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What Chris Ryan learned from elite sports, entrepreneurship, and helping busy people stay consistent.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Chris Ryan about athletics, business, family, and the path that took him from Division 1 track to entrepreneurship in finance, restoration, and fitness. Chris shares how injuries changed his direction early, how he built and sold a business in South Florida, and why he eventually came back to the health and fitness world in a bigger way.</p><p><br>They also get into corporate wellness, consistency, nutrition, and the reality of building something that lasts. It is a conversation about second careers, long-term thinking, and why taking care of yourself is not separate from business.</p><p><br><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</strong></p><p><br>Running for the Florida Gators and dealing with injuries<br>Moving from elite sports into business<br>Getting into finance and then buying into a Servpro business<br>Why Chris left one successful path to build something more meaningful<br>What Mirror changed about his view of at-home fitness<br>Why consistency matters more than intensity<br>The mindset shift from corporate work to entrepreneurship<br>Nutrition, alcohol, and the habits that add up over time<br>Family, kids, and trying to stay present while building a business<br>Why Chris sees corporate wellness as a major opportunity</p><p><br><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>00:20 – Mitch asks Chris about his background, athletics, and college<br>00:40 – Growing up in Michigan and living near New York now<br>01:00 – Running for the Florida Gators as a Division 1 athlete<br>01:21 – Injuries, leaving track, and transferring back to Michigan State<br>02:00 – Studying economics and international relations<br>02:22 – Early interest in business and finance<br>03:00 – Working in finance and realizing he wanted to build something of his own<br>03:35 – Getting into Servpro and learning to lead in his 20s<br>04:24 – Building a business in South Florida and growing up fast<br>05:14 – Franchising, expansion limits, and selling before the financial crisis<br>06:00 – Travel, reflection, and figuring out what came next<br>07:00 – Moving toward fitness, media, and coaching in New York<br>08:00 – Certifications, writing, and building a brand in fitness<br>08:30 – NBC Strong, Mirror, and the rise of interactive at-home fitness<br>11:00 – Starting his own fitness platform after Lululemon<br>12:00 – Building workouts for busy parents and executives<br>13:00 – Why consistency is the real advantage<br>15:00 – Mitch on running, aging, and the mental side of working out<br>16:40 – Chris on nutrition, protein, fiber, and cutting processed foods<br>19:00 – Why drinks and alcohol quietly hurt progress<br>25:28 – What is next for Chris and the move toward corporate wellness<br>27:00 – How wellness could help companies lower healthcare costs<br>29:09 – Building with contractors and vendors instead of W-2 employees<br>30:00 – Chris shares where people can find his app and coaching</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Chris Ryan:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisryanfitness/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chrisryanfitness/">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://chrisryanfitness.com/">Chris Ryan Fitness</a></p><p><br><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios<br></strong>QuietLoud is a creative studio and podcast network. Shows, writing, clips, and the conditions for other creative work.</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/nil">SportsEpreneur NIL Hub</a><br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/labs">QuietLoud Labs</a><br><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network">QuietLoud Network</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How Casey Mahoney turned a racing background, IT skills, and a niche idea into a business people can actually experience.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Casey Mahoney about Victory Sim Experience, the racing sim center he built in Hickory, NC. Casey shares how he got into racing early, worked around NASCAR, and later found a way to combine that background with technology and entrepreneurship.</p><p><br>They also get into the shift from building simulators for other people to creating a space where customers can come race for themselves. It is a conversation about finding a lane, adapting when a market changes, and building a business around experience instead of just equipment.</p><p><br><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</strong></p><p><br>How Victory Sim Experience works<br>Why sim racing is more realistic than people expect<br>Casey’s early background in racing<br>Working around NASCAR and local race teams<br>How the housing crash pushed him into a career change<br>Combining racing knowledge with IT skills<br>Why COVID changed the sim industry<br>Trade shows, rentals, and building a business around events<br>What makes a sim center work as an experience<br>Why Hickory made sense as the home base</p><p><br><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>00:21 – Mitch meets Casey and asks about the business<br>00:31 – What Victory Sim Experience is and how it works<br>01:02 – The different types of racing people can do<br>01:14 – How the company started building simulators in 2012<br>01:24 – COVID, trade shows, and the shift into events<br>02:07 – Turning idle equipment into a sim center<br>02:26 – Racing events, trade shows, and where the business travels<br>03:09 – Casey’s racing background and working for Bill Elliott’s team<br>03:39 – The recession, layoffs, and making a career change<br>04:00 – Learning IT and combining it with a racing background<br>04:30 – Building sims, growing demand, and new competition<br>05:29 – The sim center, reservations, and walk-in traffic<br>06:11 – How long people race and why 30 minutes is usually enough<br>06:39 – Why sim racing is not a video game<br>07:32 – Tracks, skill levels, and how beginners get started<br>08:34 – Growing up in Hickory and being a Bill Elliott fan<br>08:50 – What Casey actually did around race teams when he was younger<br>09:26 – Favorite tracks and how racing has changed over time<br>10:20 – Why sim racing felt new before it became mainstream<br>11:21 – The hardware, the cost, and why the experience matters<br>12:16 – Staffing, family, and Casey’s son working in the business<br>12:47 – Where the trade show work happens<br>13:24 – Using simulators to pull people into a booth<br>14:14 – Whether Casey wants more locations in the future<br>15:19 – Mitch wraps up and connects Casey’s story back to motorsports</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><br><strong>Connect with Casey Mahoney:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/casey-mahoney-093a77106">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://victorysimcenter.com/">Victory SIM</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/VictorySimLLC/">Facebook</a></p><p><br><strong>More from The Long Game</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/tuttis-italian-market-tom-cook">Italian Food, Family, and Community with Tom Cook of Tutti’s</a></li><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/green-beret-to-blackhawk-pilot-nick-okelly">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O'Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a></li><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/nascar-to-insurance-chip-goode">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a></li></ul><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How Casey Mahoney turned a racing background, IT skills, and a niche idea into a business people can actually experience.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Casey Mahoney about Victory Sim Experience, the racing sim center he built in Hickory, NC. Casey shares how he got into racing early, worked around NASCAR, and later found a way to combine that background with technology and entrepreneurship.</p><p><br>They also get into the shift from building simulators for other people to creating a space where customers can come race for themselves. It is a conversation about finding a lane, adapting when a market changes, and building a business around experience instead of just equipment.</p><p><br><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</strong></p><p><br>How Victory Sim Experience works<br>Why sim racing is more realistic than people expect<br>Casey’s early background in racing<br>Working around NASCAR and local race teams<br>How the housing crash pushed him into a career change<br>Combining racing knowledge with IT skills<br>Why COVID changed the sim industry<br>Trade shows, rentals, and building a business around events<br>What makes a sim center work as an experience<br>Why Hickory made sense as the home base</p><p><br><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>00:21 – Mitch meets Casey and asks about the business<br>00:31 – What Victory Sim Experience is and how it works<br>01:02 – The different types of racing people can do<br>01:14 – How the company started building simulators in 2012<br>01:24 – COVID, trade shows, and the shift into events<br>02:07 – Turning idle equipment into a sim center<br>02:26 – Racing events, trade shows, and where the business travels<br>03:09 – Casey’s racing background and working for Bill Elliott’s team<br>03:39 – The recession, layoffs, and making a career change<br>04:00 – Learning IT and combining it with a racing background<br>04:30 – Building sims, growing demand, and new competition<br>05:29 – The sim center, reservations, and walk-in traffic<br>06:11 – How long people race and why 30 minutes is usually enough<br>06:39 – Why sim racing is not a video game<br>07:32 – Tracks, skill levels, and how beginners get started<br>08:34 – Growing up in Hickory and being a Bill Elliott fan<br>08:50 – What Casey actually did around race teams when he was younger<br>09:26 – Favorite tracks and how racing has changed over time<br>10:20 – Why sim racing felt new before it became mainstream<br>11:21 – The hardware, the cost, and why the experience matters<br>12:16 – Staffing, family, and Casey’s son working in the business<br>12:47 – Where the trade show work happens<br>13:24 – Using simulators to pull people into a booth<br>14:14 – Whether Casey wants more locations in the future<br>15:19 – Mitch wraps up and connects Casey’s story back to motorsports</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><br><strong>Connect with Casey Mahoney:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/casey-mahoney-093a77106">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://victorysimcenter.com/">Victory SIM</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/VictorySimLLC/">Facebook</a></p><p><br><strong>More from The Long Game</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/tuttis-italian-market-tom-cook">Italian Food, Family, and Community with Tom Cook of Tutti’s</a></li><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/green-beret-to-blackhawk-pilot-nick-okelly">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O'Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a></li><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/nascar-to-insurance-chip-goode">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a></li></ul><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How Casey Mahoney turned a racing background, IT skills, and a niche idea into a business people can actually experience.</p><p><br>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Casey Mahoney about Victory Sim Experience, the racing sim center he built in Hickory, NC. Casey shares how he got into racing early, worked around NASCAR, and later found a way to combine that background with technology and entrepreneurship.</p><p><br>They also get into the shift from building simulators for other people to creating a space where customers can come race for themselves. It is a conversation about finding a lane, adapting when a market changes, and building a business around experience instead of just equipment.</p><p><br><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</strong></p><p><br>How Victory Sim Experience works<br>Why sim racing is more realistic than people expect<br>Casey’s early background in racing<br>Working around NASCAR and local race teams<br>How the housing crash pushed him into a career change<br>Combining racing knowledge with IT skills<br>Why COVID changed the sim industry<br>Trade shows, rentals, and building a business around events<br>What makes a sim center work as an experience<br>Why Hickory made sense as the home base</p><p><br><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>00:21 – Mitch meets Casey and asks about the business<br>00:31 – What Victory Sim Experience is and how it works<br>01:02 – The different types of racing people can do<br>01:14 – How the company started building simulators in 2012<br>01:24 – COVID, trade shows, and the shift into events<br>02:07 – Turning idle equipment into a sim center<br>02:26 – Racing events, trade shows, and where the business travels<br>03:09 – Casey’s racing background and working for Bill Elliott’s team<br>03:39 – The recession, layoffs, and making a career change<br>04:00 – Learning IT and combining it with a racing background<br>04:30 – Building sims, growing demand, and new competition<br>05:29 – The sim center, reservations, and walk-in traffic<br>06:11 – How long people race and why 30 minutes is usually enough<br>06:39 – Why sim racing is not a video game<br>07:32 – Tracks, skill levels, and how beginners get started<br>08:34 – Growing up in Hickory and being a Bill Elliott fan<br>08:50 – What Casey actually did around race teams when he was younger<br>09:26 – Favorite tracks and how racing has changed over time<br>10:20 – Why sim racing felt new before it became mainstream<br>11:21 – The hardware, the cost, and why the experience matters<br>12:16 – Staffing, family, and Casey’s son working in the business<br>12:47 – Where the trade show work happens<br>13:24 – Using simulators to pull people into a booth<br>14:14 – Whether Casey wants more locations in the future<br>15:19 – Mitch wraps up and connects Casey’s story back to motorsports</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><br><strong>Connect with Casey Mahoney:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/casey-mahoney-093a77106">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://victorysimcenter.com/">Victory SIM</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/VictorySimLLC/">Facebook</a></p><p><br><strong>More from The Long Game</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/tuttis-italian-market-tom-cook">Italian Food, Family, and Community with Tom Cook of Tutti’s</a></li><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/green-beret-to-blackhawk-pilot-nick-okelly">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O'Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a></li><li><a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/network/the-long-game/episodes/nascar-to-insurance-chip-goode">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a></li></ul><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What growing up around big family meals taught Tom Cook about food, hospitality, and building something local.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Tom from Tutti’s Italian Market and Deli in Concord, NC about family, food, teaching, and the path that led him into the restaurant business. Tom shares how growing up in a New York Italian family shaped the way he thinks about meals, community, and what it means to bring people back to the table.</p><p>They also get into entrepreneurship, opening a business with his brother (Johnny Cook), learning from mistakes, and why Tutti’s is really about people as much as it is about food. It is a conversation about family traditions, local business, and creating a place where customers feel known.</p><p><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT<br></strong><br></p><p>Growing up in a New York Italian family<br>How food and family meals shaped Tom early<br>Teaching English before opening Tutti’s<br>Why Concord felt like the right place to build something local<br>Opening a deli without a restaurant background<br>What Tutti’s means and why the table matters<br>Learning patience, trust, and mistakes as a new owner<br>How Tom and his brother, Johnny Cook, built the business together<br>Why community matters more than transactions<br>Building a team that feels like family</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS<br></strong><br></p><p>00:20 – Mitch introduces Tutti’s and asks Tom about his background<br>00:56 – Growing up in a second- and third-generation Italian-American family<br>02:00 – Tom on education, teaching, and staying connected to UNC Charlotte<br>03:36 – How family ended up in the Charlotte area<br>05:00 – A family full of teachers, writers, and creatives<br>06:21 – Why entrepreneurship and family history shaped the business<br>08:35 – Why Concord became the right place to open Tutti’s<br>10:14 – The market, wine, and creating a local place people remember<br>11:08 – What Tutti’s means and the idea of bringing people back to the table<br>13:13 – The Godfather, lasagna, and favorite dishes on the menu<br>15:07 – Making food from scratch and why that still matters<br>15:19 – Early business challenges, patience, and learning to trust people<br>16:00 – Building the deli with Johnny and opening later than planned<br>17:00 – Why getting open in time for his grandfather mattered so much<br>19:00 – Imposter syndrome and starting a food business with English degrees<br>20:00 – Why Tutti’s is in the people business<br>21:36 – Repeat customers, community, and knowing people by name<br>22:07 – How catering became a bigger part of the business<br>24:20 – Staffing, culture, and building a strong team<br>26:10 – Family meal with the staff on Tuesdays<br>27:08 – Mitch on family dinners and why they mattered so much<br>28:17 – Why this building felt right from the start<br>29:00 – Creating the kind of local place people come back to</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Tom Cook:</strong> <a href="https://tuttismarket.com">Tutti's Italian Market &amp; Deli</a></p><p><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/nick-okelly-green-beret-blackhawk-pilot-financial-planner/">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O’Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What growing up around big family meals taught Tom Cook about food, hospitality, and building something local.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Tom from Tutti’s Italian Market and Deli in Concord, NC about family, food, teaching, and the path that led him into the restaurant business. Tom shares how growing up in a New York Italian family shaped the way he thinks about meals, community, and what it means to bring people back to the table.</p><p>They also get into entrepreneurship, opening a business with his brother (Johnny Cook), learning from mistakes, and why Tutti’s is really about people as much as it is about food. It is a conversation about family traditions, local business, and creating a place where customers feel known.</p><p><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT<br></strong><br></p><p>Growing up in a New York Italian family<br>How food and family meals shaped Tom early<br>Teaching English before opening Tutti’s<br>Why Concord felt like the right place to build something local<br>Opening a deli without a restaurant background<br>What Tutti’s means and why the table matters<br>Learning patience, trust, and mistakes as a new owner<br>How Tom and his brother, Johnny Cook, built the business together<br>Why community matters more than transactions<br>Building a team that feels like family</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS<br></strong><br></p><p>00:20 – Mitch introduces Tutti’s and asks Tom about his background<br>00:56 – Growing up in a second- and third-generation Italian-American family<br>02:00 – Tom on education, teaching, and staying connected to UNC Charlotte<br>03:36 – How family ended up in the Charlotte area<br>05:00 – A family full of teachers, writers, and creatives<br>06:21 – Why entrepreneurship and family history shaped the business<br>08:35 – Why Concord became the right place to open Tutti’s<br>10:14 – The market, wine, and creating a local place people remember<br>11:08 – What Tutti’s means and the idea of bringing people back to the table<br>13:13 – The Godfather, lasagna, and favorite dishes on the menu<br>15:07 – Making food from scratch and why that still matters<br>15:19 – Early business challenges, patience, and learning to trust people<br>16:00 – Building the deli with Johnny and opening later than planned<br>17:00 – Why getting open in time for his grandfather mattered so much<br>19:00 – Imposter syndrome and starting a food business with English degrees<br>20:00 – Why Tutti’s is in the people business<br>21:36 – Repeat customers, community, and knowing people by name<br>22:07 – How catering became a bigger part of the business<br>24:20 – Staffing, culture, and building a strong team<br>26:10 – Family meal with the staff on Tuesdays<br>27:08 – Mitch on family dinners and why they mattered so much<br>28:17 – Why this building felt right from the start<br>29:00 – Creating the kind of local place people come back to</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Tom Cook:</strong> <a href="https://tuttismarket.com">Tutti's Italian Market &amp; Deli</a></p><p><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/nick-okelly-green-beret-blackhawk-pilot-financial-planner/">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O’Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2026 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What growing up around big family meals taught Tom Cook about food, hospitality, and building something local.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Tom from Tutti’s Italian Market and Deli in Concord, NC about family, food, teaching, and the path that led him into the restaurant business. Tom shares how growing up in a New York Italian family shaped the way he thinks about meals, community, and what it means to bring people back to the table.</p><p>They also get into entrepreneurship, opening a business with his brother (Johnny Cook), learning from mistakes, and why Tutti’s is really about people as much as it is about food. It is a conversation about family traditions, local business, and creating a place where customers feel known.</p><p><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT<br></strong><br></p><p>Growing up in a New York Italian family<br>How food and family meals shaped Tom early<br>Teaching English before opening Tutti’s<br>Why Concord felt like the right place to build something local<br>Opening a deli without a restaurant background<br>What Tutti’s means and why the table matters<br>Learning patience, trust, and mistakes as a new owner<br>How Tom and his brother, Johnny Cook, built the business together<br>Why community matters more than transactions<br>Building a team that feels like family</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS<br></strong><br></p><p>00:20 – Mitch introduces Tutti’s and asks Tom about his background<br>00:56 – Growing up in a second- and third-generation Italian-American family<br>02:00 – Tom on education, teaching, and staying connected to UNC Charlotte<br>03:36 – How family ended up in the Charlotte area<br>05:00 – A family full of teachers, writers, and creatives<br>06:21 – Why entrepreneurship and family history shaped the business<br>08:35 – Why Concord became the right place to open Tutti’s<br>10:14 – The market, wine, and creating a local place people remember<br>11:08 – What Tutti’s means and the idea of bringing people back to the table<br>13:13 – The Godfather, lasagna, and favorite dishes on the menu<br>15:07 – Making food from scratch and why that still matters<br>15:19 – Early business challenges, patience, and learning to trust people<br>16:00 – Building the deli with Johnny and opening later than planned<br>17:00 – Why getting open in time for his grandfather mattered so much<br>19:00 – Imposter syndrome and starting a food business with English degrees<br>20:00 – Why Tutti’s is in the people business<br>21:36 – Repeat customers, community, and knowing people by name<br>22:07 – How catering became a bigger part of the business<br>24:20 – Staffing, culture, and building a strong team<br>26:10 – Family meal with the staff on Tuesdays<br>27:08 – Mitch on family dinners and why they mattered so much<br>28:17 – Why this building felt right from the start<br>29:00 – Creating the kind of local place people come back to</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Tom Cook:</strong> <a href="https://tuttismarket.com">Tutti's Italian Market &amp; Deli</a></p><p><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/build-content-authority/">One Post Is Content, A Body of Work Is Authority</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/nick-okelly-green-beret-blackhawk-pilot-financial-planner/">From Green Beret to Blackhawk Pilot to Financial Planner: Nick O’Kelly on Risk, Family, and Starting Over</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/youth-soccer-pathways-brando-babini/">Why Youth Soccer Needs Player-Led Pathways | Brando Babini of Youth 4 Youth FC</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What a Green Beret turned Blackhawk pilot turned financial planner learned about risk, family, and starting over.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Nick O’Kelly about military life, aviation, family, and the road that led him into financial planning. Nick shares how he went from struggling in college to becoming a Green Beret, then a Blackhawk pilot, before eventually starting over in a new career after leaving the military.</p><p>They also get into the mindset shift of moving from service into sales, how Nick built his practice, and why his approach to financial planning starts with the end state in mind. It is a grounded conversation about discipline, family, long-term thinking, and helping people make better financial decisions.</p><p><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT<br></strong><br></p><p>Nick O’Kelly’s path from college to Special Forces<br>Serving as a Green Beret in Okinawa<br>Becoming a Blackhawk pilot and flying in special operations<br>Why he left the military and started over<br>The challenge of moving from service into sales<br>How Cadence Wealth Partners approaches financial planning<br>Why Nick starts with the end state in mind<br>Helping clients stay steady when markets get shaky<br>Family, coaching, and being intentional with time<br>Why trust and referrals matter in a growing practice</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS<br></strong><br></p><p>00:00 – Mitch and Nick connect over their military family background<br>00:11 – Nick on high school, college, and joining the military<br>01:00 – Special Forces training and becoming a Green Beret<br>01:30 – Serving in Okinawa and starting a family<br>01:50 – Aviation, flight school, and becoming a Blackhawk pilot<br>02:10 – Flying with the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment<br>02:26 – Mitch on growing up in a military family<br>02:47 – Why Nick left the military<br>03:24 – Building a plan before leaving service<br>03:40 – Becoming a finance nerd and earning the CFP designation<br>04:06 – The hardest part of starting in the business<br>04:30 – The mindset shift from quiet professional to finding clients<br>05:15 – Mitch on sales, listening, and helping people solve problems<br>06:18 – Nick explains Cadence Wealth Partners and how they plan backward<br>07:00 – How they review plans and keep clients focused long term<br>07:37 – Market swings, fear, and staying the course<br>09:06 – Nick on family, kids, and youth sports<br>10:27 – Coaching baseball and protecting time with family<br>11:35 – The joke behind “undefeated dad”<br>12:13 – Military culture, parenting, and adjusting expectations at home<br>13:24 – Nick on building value and growing through referrals<br>14:18 – Mitch on relationships that have lasted decades<br>14:58 – Why trust matters more than transactions<br>15:00 – Nick on growth, hiring, and expanding the practice</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Nick O'Kelly: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickokelly/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://x.com/thenickokelly">X</a> | <a href="https://cadencewealthpartners.com/veteran/your-guides/">Cadence Wealth Partners</a></p><p><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/world-cup-hydration-breaks-fox-ads/">Hydration Breaks, Fox Ads, and the Americanization of the World Cup</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/real-value-of-podcasting/">The Real Value of Podcasting in 2026</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/chip-goode-nascar-then-insurance/">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/brando-babini-youth-4-youth-fc/">How a 21-Year-Old Built a 1,000-Player Soccer Company in College</a> | EP197 — Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What a Green Beret turned Blackhawk pilot turned financial planner learned about risk, family, and starting over.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Nick O’Kelly about military life, aviation, family, and the road that led him into financial planning. Nick shares how he went from struggling in college to becoming a Green Beret, then a Blackhawk pilot, before eventually starting over in a new career after leaving the military.</p><p>They also get into the mindset shift of moving from service into sales, how Nick built his practice, and why his approach to financial planning starts with the end state in mind. It is a grounded conversation about discipline, family, long-term thinking, and helping people make better financial decisions.</p><p><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT<br></strong><br></p><p>Nick O’Kelly’s path from college to Special Forces<br>Serving as a Green Beret in Okinawa<br>Becoming a Blackhawk pilot and flying in special operations<br>Why he left the military and started over<br>The challenge of moving from service into sales<br>How Cadence Wealth Partners approaches financial planning<br>Why Nick starts with the end state in mind<br>Helping clients stay steady when markets get shaky<br>Family, coaching, and being intentional with time<br>Why trust and referrals matter in a growing practice</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS<br></strong><br></p><p>00:00 – Mitch and Nick connect over their military family background<br>00:11 – Nick on high school, college, and joining the military<br>01:00 – Special Forces training and becoming a Green Beret<br>01:30 – Serving in Okinawa and starting a family<br>01:50 – Aviation, flight school, and becoming a Blackhawk pilot<br>02:10 – Flying with the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment<br>02:26 – Mitch on growing up in a military family<br>02:47 – Why Nick left the military<br>03:24 – Building a plan before leaving service<br>03:40 – Becoming a finance nerd and earning the CFP designation<br>04:06 – The hardest part of starting in the business<br>04:30 – The mindset shift from quiet professional to finding clients<br>05:15 – Mitch on sales, listening, and helping people solve problems<br>06:18 – Nick explains Cadence Wealth Partners and how they plan backward<br>07:00 – How they review plans and keep clients focused long term<br>07:37 – Market swings, fear, and staying the course<br>09:06 – Nick on family, kids, and youth sports<br>10:27 – Coaching baseball and protecting time with family<br>11:35 – The joke behind “undefeated dad”<br>12:13 – Military culture, parenting, and adjusting expectations at home<br>13:24 – Nick on building value and growing through referrals<br>14:18 – Mitch on relationships that have lasted decades<br>14:58 – Why trust matters more than transactions<br>15:00 – Nick on growth, hiring, and expanding the practice</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Nick O'Kelly: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickokelly/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://x.com/thenickokelly">X</a> | <a href="https://cadencewealthpartners.com/veteran/your-guides/">Cadence Wealth Partners</a></p><p><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/world-cup-hydration-breaks-fox-ads/">Hydration Breaks, Fox Ads, and the Americanization of the World Cup</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/real-value-of-podcasting/">The Real Value of Podcasting in 2026</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/chip-goode-nascar-then-insurance/">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/brando-babini-youth-4-youth-fc/">How a 21-Year-Old Built a 1,000-Player Soccer Company in College</a> | EP197 — Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2026 14:59:39 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What a Green Beret turned Blackhawk pilot turned financial planner learned about risk, family, and starting over.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Nick O’Kelly about military life, aviation, family, and the road that led him into financial planning. Nick shares how he went from struggling in college to becoming a Green Beret, then a Blackhawk pilot, before eventually starting over in a new career after leaving the military.</p><p>They also get into the mindset shift of moving from service into sales, how Nick built his practice, and why his approach to financial planning starts with the end state in mind. It is a grounded conversation about discipline, family, long-term thinking, and helping people make better financial decisions.</p><p><strong>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT<br></strong><br></p><p>Nick O’Kelly’s path from college to Special Forces<br>Serving as a Green Beret in Okinawa<br>Becoming a Blackhawk pilot and flying in special operations<br>Why he left the military and started over<br>The challenge of moving from service into sales<br>How Cadence Wealth Partners approaches financial planning<br>Why Nick starts with the end state in mind<br>Helping clients stay steady when markets get shaky<br>Family, coaching, and being intentional with time<br>Why trust and referrals matter in a growing practice</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS<br></strong><br></p><p>00:00 – Mitch and Nick connect over their military family background<br>00:11 – Nick on high school, college, and joining the military<br>01:00 – Special Forces training and becoming a Green Beret<br>01:30 – Serving in Okinawa and starting a family<br>01:50 – Aviation, flight school, and becoming a Blackhawk pilot<br>02:10 – Flying with the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment<br>02:26 – Mitch on growing up in a military family<br>02:47 – Why Nick left the military<br>03:24 – Building a plan before leaving service<br>03:40 – Becoming a finance nerd and earning the CFP designation<br>04:06 – The hardest part of starting in the business<br>04:30 – The mindset shift from quiet professional to finding clients<br>05:15 – Mitch on sales, listening, and helping people solve problems<br>06:18 – Nick explains Cadence Wealth Partners and how they plan backward<br>07:00 – How they review plans and keep clients focused long term<br>07:37 – Market swings, fear, and staying the course<br>09:06 – Nick on family, kids, and youth sports<br>10:27 – Coaching baseball and protecting time with family<br>11:35 – The joke behind “undefeated dad”<br>12:13 – Military culture, parenting, and adjusting expectations at home<br>13:24 – Nick on building value and growing through referrals<br>14:18 – Mitch on relationships that have lasted decades<br>14:58 – Why trust matters more than transactions<br>15:00 – Nick on growth, hiring, and expanding the practice</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Nick O'Kelly: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickokelly/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://x.com/thenickokelly">X</a> | <a href="https://cadencewealthpartners.com/veteran/your-guides/">Cadence Wealth Partners</a></p><p><strong>More from QuietLoud Studios</strong></p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/world-cup-hydration-breaks-fox-ads/">Hydration Breaks, Fox Ads, and the Americanization of the World Cup</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/real-value-of-podcasting/">The Real Value of Podcasting in 2026</a> — KazCM</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/chip-goode-nascar-then-insurance/">NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</a> — The Long Game</p><p><a href="https://kazsource.com/brando-babini-youth-4-youth-fc/">How a 21-Year-Old Built a 1,000-Player Soccer Company in College</a> | EP197 — Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <title>NASCAR, Family, and Starting Over with Chip Goode</title>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 19 years on pit road taught Chip Goode about pressure, family, and building a second career.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Chip Goode about sports, NASCAR, family, and how he made the jump from pit road into insurance. It starts with football and the NFL Draft, but the bigger story is about work, timing, and knowing when it is time to build something new.</p><p>Chip shares how he spent 19 years on NASCAR pit crews, what that life demanded, and why he eventually needed a different path for his family. He also gets into the move into insurance, buying an agency, and what it means to have more control over your work and your time.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:20 – Mitch checks in with Chip and the conversation starts with business<br>00:46 – Rate increases, tighter underwriting, and a tougher insurance market<br>01:10 – NFL Draft talk and why Chip likes the Panthers building up front<br>02:34 – Steelers fans, draft night, and the Aaron Rodgers question<br>04:29 – Why teams get stuck chasing average instead of finding their quarterback<br>06:44 – Chip on growing up in Statesville and being around racing early<br>07:00 – Football, basketball, UNC Charlotte, and getting into NASCAR<br>07:53 – Chad Little, Jeff Burton, Juan Pablo Montoya, and life on pit crews<br>09:06 – How Chip first got into the sport through his dad<br>10:43 – Getting into Victory Lane as a kid<br>11:00 – From helping on weekends to jumping over the wall in 1998<br>12:27 – The physical and mental side of being on a pit crew<br>13:52 – Meeting his wife and balancing racing with family life<br>15:00 – A streak of 730 straight Cup races<br>16:26 – Why family eventually changed the way he saw the job<br>18:04 – Coaching, showing up for kids, and the value of flexibility<br>20:27 – His daughters, college, and musical theater<br>22:07 – Why Chip moved from NASCAR into insurance<br>23:23 – The call that pushed him toward Farm Bureau<br>24:00 – Getting licensed while still working race weekends<br>25:01 – The chance meeting that led to buying an agency<br>26:13 – What independence changed for Chip as an owner<br>29:00 – Mitch on starting over in sales and learning to live on what you produce<br>30:00 – Faith, timing, and the checks that showed up right when they were needed</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Chip Goode:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chip-goode-7834a5103/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://x.com/goodechip">X</a> </p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/remote-work-financial-advisory-industry-joe-cantanucci/">Remote Work in Today’s Financial Advisory Industry</a> — Entrepreneur Perspectives<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/the-long-game-wes-connor-50-years-in-business/">The Long Game | Episode 1: Wes Connor on 50 Years in Business</a> — KazSource<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-nil-spending/">The Economics Behind College Football's NIL Explosion</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 19 years on pit road taught Chip Goode about pressure, family, and building a second career.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Chip Goode about sports, NASCAR, family, and how he made the jump from pit road into insurance. It starts with football and the NFL Draft, but the bigger story is about work, timing, and knowing when it is time to build something new.</p><p>Chip shares how he spent 19 years on NASCAR pit crews, what that life demanded, and why he eventually needed a different path for his family. He also gets into the move into insurance, buying an agency, and what it means to have more control over your work and your time.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:20 – Mitch checks in with Chip and the conversation starts with business<br>00:46 – Rate increases, tighter underwriting, and a tougher insurance market<br>01:10 – NFL Draft talk and why Chip likes the Panthers building up front<br>02:34 – Steelers fans, draft night, and the Aaron Rodgers question<br>04:29 – Why teams get stuck chasing average instead of finding their quarterback<br>06:44 – Chip on growing up in Statesville and being around racing early<br>07:00 – Football, basketball, UNC Charlotte, and getting into NASCAR<br>07:53 – Chad Little, Jeff Burton, Juan Pablo Montoya, and life on pit crews<br>09:06 – How Chip first got into the sport through his dad<br>10:43 – Getting into Victory Lane as a kid<br>11:00 – From helping on weekends to jumping over the wall in 1998<br>12:27 – The physical and mental side of being on a pit crew<br>13:52 – Meeting his wife and balancing racing with family life<br>15:00 – A streak of 730 straight Cup races<br>16:26 – Why family eventually changed the way he saw the job<br>18:04 – Coaching, showing up for kids, and the value of flexibility<br>20:27 – His daughters, college, and musical theater<br>22:07 – Why Chip moved from NASCAR into insurance<br>23:23 – The call that pushed him toward Farm Bureau<br>24:00 – Getting licensed while still working race weekends<br>25:01 – The chance meeting that led to buying an agency<br>26:13 – What independence changed for Chip as an owner<br>29:00 – Mitch on starting over in sales and learning to live on what you produce<br>30:00 – Faith, timing, and the checks that showed up right when they were needed</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Chip Goode:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chip-goode-7834a5103/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://x.com/goodechip">X</a> </p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/remote-work-financial-advisory-industry-joe-cantanucci/">Remote Work in Today’s Financial Advisory Industry</a> — Entrepreneur Perspectives<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/the-long-game-wes-connor-50-years-in-business/">The Long Game | Episode 1: Wes Connor on 50 Years in Business</a> — KazSource<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-nil-spending/">The Economics Behind College Football's NIL Explosion</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 21:34:02 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 19 years on pit road taught Chip Goode about pressure, family, and building a second career.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Chip Goode about sports, NASCAR, family, and how he made the jump from pit road into insurance. It starts with football and the NFL Draft, but the bigger story is about work, timing, and knowing when it is time to build something new.</p><p>Chip shares how he spent 19 years on NASCAR pit crews, what that life demanded, and why he eventually needed a different path for his family. He also gets into the move into insurance, buying an agency, and what it means to have more control over your work and your time.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:20 – Mitch checks in with Chip and the conversation starts with business<br>00:46 – Rate increases, tighter underwriting, and a tougher insurance market<br>01:10 – NFL Draft talk and why Chip likes the Panthers building up front<br>02:34 – Steelers fans, draft night, and the Aaron Rodgers question<br>04:29 – Why teams get stuck chasing average instead of finding their quarterback<br>06:44 – Chip on growing up in Statesville and being around racing early<br>07:00 – Football, basketball, UNC Charlotte, and getting into NASCAR<br>07:53 – Chad Little, Jeff Burton, Juan Pablo Montoya, and life on pit crews<br>09:06 – How Chip first got into the sport through his dad<br>10:43 – Getting into Victory Lane as a kid<br>11:00 – From helping on weekends to jumping over the wall in 1998<br>12:27 – The physical and mental side of being on a pit crew<br>13:52 – Meeting his wife and balancing racing with family life<br>15:00 – A streak of 730 straight Cup races<br>16:26 – Why family eventually changed the way he saw the job<br>18:04 – Coaching, showing up for kids, and the value of flexibility<br>20:27 – His daughters, college, and musical theater<br>22:07 – Why Chip moved from NASCAR into insurance<br>23:23 – The call that pushed him toward Farm Bureau<br>24:00 – Getting licensed while still working race weekends<br>25:01 – The chance meeting that led to buying an agency<br>26:13 – What independence changed for Chip as an owner<br>29:00 – Mitch on starting over in sales and learning to live on what you produce<br>30:00 – Faith, timing, and the checks that showed up right when they were needed</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Chip Goode:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chip-goode-7834a5103/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://x.com/goodechip">X</a> </p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/remote-work-financial-advisory-industry-joe-cantanucci/">Remote Work in Today’s Financial Advisory Industry</a> — Entrepreneur Perspectives<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/the-long-game-wes-connor-50-years-in-business/">The Long Game | Episode 1: Wes Connor on 50 Years in Business</a> — KazSource<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-nil-spending/">The Economics Behind College Football's NIL Explosion</a> — SportsEpreneur</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under Entrepreneur Perspectives. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Slade Lewis on Leadership, Follow-Up, and the Future of Insurance</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What strong leaders do, why follow-up still wins, and how insurance is changing fast without losing the human part.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Slade Lewis about how he got into insurance, the turns his career took along the way, and how he ended up in a leadership role at Pinnacle. They also get into sales, management, technology, and what has changed in the business over time.</p><p>It is a practical conversation about relationships, follow-up, and how to lead people well. It also gets into AI, rising premiums, and why clients still need a real person they can call when something goes wrong.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:21 – Mitch kicks off the conversation from the road<br>01:03 – Slade on growing up in Hampstead and going to UNC<br>02:30 – A journalism degree with a concentration in advertising<br>03:09 – Slade’s first job in insurance with Jefferson Pilot<br>04:00 – Moving from service into sales<br>04:27 – The bulldog hair company car story<br>06:14 – Leaving insurance for pharmaceutical sales and coming back<br>07:20 – Product roles, UnitedHealthcare, and becoming a broker<br>08:26 – Slade’s current role and how he thinks about leadership<br>10:48 – The biggest sales challenges in insurance today<br>12:00 – Why answering calls and following up still separates people<br>13:34 – How client meetings shifted from face-to-face to Zoom<br>14:20 – Technology, DocuSign, and doing business across states<br>14:57 – Why AI may transform agencies faster than expected<br>15:58 – The caution around database underwriting and automation<br>16:50 – How AI is already shaping health insurance underwriting<br>17:41 – Rising health insurance costs and the pressure on employers<br>18:35 – Standard rate increases in the small group market<br>19:20 – Looking for options when traditional carriers say no<br>19:43 – Auto and homeowners insurance costs keep climbing<br>20:18 – Roof issues, storm risk, and what is driving property costs<br>21:36 – Slade reveals he was his high school typing champion</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Slade Lewis:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sladelewis/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-bowl-games-dying/">What Happened to CFB Bowl Games</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/the-long-game-wes-connor-50-years-in-business/">The Long Game | Episode 1: Wes Connor on 50 Years in Business</a> — KazSource</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under the Entrepreneur Perspectives umbrella. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What strong leaders do, why follow-up still wins, and how insurance is changing fast without losing the human part.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Slade Lewis about how he got into insurance, the turns his career took along the way, and how he ended up in a leadership role at Pinnacle. They also get into sales, management, technology, and what has changed in the business over time.</p><p>It is a practical conversation about relationships, follow-up, and how to lead people well. It also gets into AI, rising premiums, and why clients still need a real person they can call when something goes wrong.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:21 – Mitch kicks off the conversation from the road<br>01:03 – Slade on growing up in Hampstead and going to UNC<br>02:30 – A journalism degree with a concentration in advertising<br>03:09 – Slade’s first job in insurance with Jefferson Pilot<br>04:00 – Moving from service into sales<br>04:27 – The bulldog hair company car story<br>06:14 – Leaving insurance for pharmaceutical sales and coming back<br>07:20 – Product roles, UnitedHealthcare, and becoming a broker<br>08:26 – Slade’s current role and how he thinks about leadership<br>10:48 – The biggest sales challenges in insurance today<br>12:00 – Why answering calls and following up still separates people<br>13:34 – How client meetings shifted from face-to-face to Zoom<br>14:20 – Technology, DocuSign, and doing business across states<br>14:57 – Why AI may transform agencies faster than expected<br>15:58 – The caution around database underwriting and automation<br>16:50 – How AI is already shaping health insurance underwriting<br>17:41 – Rising health insurance costs and the pressure on employers<br>18:35 – Standard rate increases in the small group market<br>19:20 – Looking for options when traditional carriers say no<br>19:43 – Auto and homeowners insurance costs keep climbing<br>20:18 – Roof issues, storm risk, and what is driving property costs<br>21:36 – Slade reveals he was his high school typing champion</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Slade Lewis:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sladelewis/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-bowl-games-dying/">What Happened to CFB Bowl Games</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/the-long-game-wes-connor-50-years-in-business/">The Long Game | Episode 1: Wes Connor on 50 Years in Business</a> — KazSource</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under the Entrepreneur Perspectives umbrella. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What strong leaders do, why follow-up still wins, and how insurance is changing fast without losing the human part.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long talks with Slade Lewis about how he got into insurance, the turns his career took along the way, and how he ended up in a leadership role at Pinnacle. They also get into sales, management, technology, and what has changed in the business over time.</p><p>It is a practical conversation about relationships, follow-up, and how to lead people well. It also gets into AI, rising premiums, and why clients still need a real person they can call when something goes wrong.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:21 – Mitch kicks off the conversation from the road<br>01:03 – Slade on growing up in Hampstead and going to UNC<br>02:30 – A journalism degree with a concentration in advertising<br>03:09 – Slade’s first job in insurance with Jefferson Pilot<br>04:00 – Moving from service into sales<br>04:27 – The bulldog hair company car story<br>06:14 – Leaving insurance for pharmaceutical sales and coming back<br>07:20 – Product roles, UnitedHealthcare, and becoming a broker<br>08:26 – Slade’s current role and how he thinks about leadership<br>10:48 – The biggest sales challenges in insurance today<br>12:00 – Why answering calls and following up still separates people<br>13:34 – How client meetings shifted from face-to-face to Zoom<br>14:20 – Technology, DocuSign, and doing business across states<br>14:57 – Why AI may transform agencies faster than expected<br>15:58 – The caution around database underwriting and automation<br>16:50 – How AI is already shaping health insurance underwriting<br>17:41 – Rising health insurance costs and the pressure on employers<br>18:35 – Standard rate increases in the small group market<br>19:20 – Looking for options when traditional carriers say no<br>19:43 – Auto and homeowners insurance costs keep climbing<br>20:18 – Roof issues, storm risk, and what is driving property costs<br>21:36 – Slade reveals he was his high school typing champion</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><strong>Connect with Slade Lewis:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sladelewis/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-bowl-games-dying/">What Happened to CFB Bowl Games</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/the-long-game-wes-connor-50-years-in-business/">The Long Game | Episode 1: Wes Connor on 50 Years in Business</a> — KazSource</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game is a series under the Entrepreneur Perspectives umbrella. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a> — a modern media network and a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Slade Lewis, Mitch Long, The Long Game podcast, insurance leadership, insurance sales, follow-up in sales, servant leadership, Jefferson Pilot, Pinnacle Financial, HPB Insurance, insurance technology, AI in insurance, database underwriting, health insurance costs, rising insurance premiums, small group health insurance, commercial insurance, auto insurance rates, homeowners insurance, client service in insurance</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>First &amp; Long: The Steelers Are Stuck and We're Not Okay</title>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>First &amp; Long: The Steelers Are Stuck and We're Not Okay</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to First &amp; Long — a father-son football conversation between Mitch and Adam Long. Steelers fans, NFL obsessives, and yes, they've already argued about this.</p><p>In this episode, Mitch and Adam talk about the NFL Draft, the Steelers, the Bills, and a couple of Pittsburgh trip stories that did not exactly go to plan.</p><p><br>They also get into quarterbacks, roster building, fan frustration, and why teams still have to win up front. It is a loose football conversation, but the main point is clear: quick fixes usually are not enough.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p>Pittsburgh trip stories and hotel disasters<br>Why the draft always starts arguments<br>The case for building the line before chasing a quarterback<br>Why where a quarterback lands matters<br>Whether the Steelers should give Will Howard a shot<br>Why the Steelers feel stuck in the middle<br>Why teams still win in the trenches<br>Whether Buffalo is doing enough around Josh Allen</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:01 – Mitch sets up a talk about the draft and Pittsburgh trips<br>00:18 – Adam’s advice on where not to stay in Pittsburgh<br>00:43 – The hotel story that went bad fast<br>01:50 – The legendary bar encounter in Pittsburgh<br>02:19 – Running into the same guy again in Virginia<br>02:45 – Mitch and Adam get into the draft<br>03:06 – Adam on the Raiders, Fernando Mendoza, and Kirk Cousins<br>05:30 – Mitch makes the case for trading the top pick<br>09:30 – Why quarterback success depends on where a player lands<br>12:37 – Mobility, protection, and what the Steelers lacked last year<br>15:24 – Adam on play calling and helping players succeed<br>17:25 – What the Steelers should target in the draft<br>19:57 – Jeremiah Love, offensive line help, and winning in the trenches<br>23:37 – Mitch on following the draft without pretending to know every prospect<br>25:16 – The argument for seeing what Will Howard can do<br>27:42 – Why Adam does not want Aaron Rodgers back<br>30:31 – The cost of being scared to have a losing season<br>35:15 – Bo Nix, the Broncos, and what could have been<br>38:42 – Mitch turns to the Bills and Josh Allen<br>41:52 – Why Buffalo may be at a key point</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><br><strong>More from SportsEpreneur</strong></p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-sports-business-nil-athlete-education/">The Business in College Sports</a><br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/espn-buyout-nfl-network-owns-media/">How the NFL Turns Chaos into an Asset<br>The NFL Owns the Media</a></p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>First &amp; Long with Mitch and Adam Long — a <a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/">SportsEpreneur</a> series.</p><p><br><strong>SportsEpreneur:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/SportsEpreneur">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sportsepreneur/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to First &amp; Long — a father-son football conversation between Mitch and Adam Long. Steelers fans, NFL obsessives, and yes, they've already argued about this.</p><p>In this episode, Mitch and Adam talk about the NFL Draft, the Steelers, the Bills, and a couple of Pittsburgh trip stories that did not exactly go to plan.</p><p><br>They also get into quarterbacks, roster building, fan frustration, and why teams still have to win up front. It is a loose football conversation, but the main point is clear: quick fixes usually are not enough.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p>Pittsburgh trip stories and hotel disasters<br>Why the draft always starts arguments<br>The case for building the line before chasing a quarterback<br>Why where a quarterback lands matters<br>Whether the Steelers should give Will Howard a shot<br>Why the Steelers feel stuck in the middle<br>Why teams still win in the trenches<br>Whether Buffalo is doing enough around Josh Allen</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:01 – Mitch sets up a talk about the draft and Pittsburgh trips<br>00:18 – Adam’s advice on where not to stay in Pittsburgh<br>00:43 – The hotel story that went bad fast<br>01:50 – The legendary bar encounter in Pittsburgh<br>02:19 – Running into the same guy again in Virginia<br>02:45 – Mitch and Adam get into the draft<br>03:06 – Adam on the Raiders, Fernando Mendoza, and Kirk Cousins<br>05:30 – Mitch makes the case for trading the top pick<br>09:30 – Why quarterback success depends on where a player lands<br>12:37 – Mobility, protection, and what the Steelers lacked last year<br>15:24 – Adam on play calling and helping players succeed<br>17:25 – What the Steelers should target in the draft<br>19:57 – Jeremiah Love, offensive line help, and winning in the trenches<br>23:37 – Mitch on following the draft without pretending to know every prospect<br>25:16 – The argument for seeing what Will Howard can do<br>27:42 – Why Adam does not want Aaron Rodgers back<br>30:31 – The cost of being scared to have a losing season<br>35:15 – Bo Nix, the Broncos, and what could have been<br>38:42 – Mitch turns to the Bills and Josh Allen<br>41:52 – Why Buffalo may be at a key point</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><br><strong>More from SportsEpreneur</strong></p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-sports-business-nil-athlete-education/">The Business in College Sports</a><br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/espn-buyout-nfl-network-owns-media/">How the NFL Turns Chaos into an Asset<br>The NFL Owns the Media</a></p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>First &amp; Long with Mitch and Adam Long — a <a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/">SportsEpreneur</a> series.</p><p><br><strong>SportsEpreneur:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/SportsEpreneur">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sportsepreneur/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 12:03:34 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mitch Long</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to First &amp; Long — a father-son football conversation between Mitch and Adam Long. Steelers fans, NFL obsessives, and yes, they've already argued about this.</p><p>In this episode, Mitch and Adam talk about the NFL Draft, the Steelers, the Bills, and a couple of Pittsburgh trip stories that did not exactly go to plan.</p><p><br>They also get into quarterbacks, roster building, fan frustration, and why teams still have to win up front. It is a loose football conversation, but the main point is clear: quick fixes usually are not enough.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><p>Pittsburgh trip stories and hotel disasters<br>Why the draft always starts arguments<br>The case for building the line before chasing a quarterback<br>Why where a quarterback lands matters<br>Whether the Steelers should give Will Howard a shot<br>Why the Steelers feel stuck in the middle<br>Why teams still win in the trenches<br>Whether Buffalo is doing enough around Josh Allen</p><p><br>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:01 – Mitch sets up a talk about the draft and Pittsburgh trips<br>00:18 – Adam’s advice on where not to stay in Pittsburgh<br>00:43 – The hotel story that went bad fast<br>01:50 – The legendary bar encounter in Pittsburgh<br>02:19 – Running into the same guy again in Virginia<br>02:45 – Mitch and Adam get into the draft<br>03:06 – Adam on the Raiders, Fernando Mendoza, and Kirk Cousins<br>05:30 – Mitch makes the case for trading the top pick<br>09:30 – Why quarterback success depends on where a player lands<br>12:37 – Mobility, protection, and what the Steelers lacked last year<br>15:24 – Adam on play calling and helping players succeed<br>17:25 – What the Steelers should target in the draft<br>19:57 – Jeremiah Love, offensive line help, and winning in the trenches<br>23:37 – Mitch on following the draft without pretending to know every prospect<br>25:16 – The argument for seeing what Will Howard can do<br>27:42 – Why Adam does not want Aaron Rodgers back<br>30:31 – The cost of being scared to have a losing season<br>35:15 – Bo Nix, the Broncos, and what could have been<br>38:42 – Mitch turns to the Bills and Josh Allen<br>41:52 – Why Buffalo may be at a key point</p><p><br><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a></p><p><br><strong>More from SportsEpreneur</strong></p><p><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-sports-business-nil-athlete-education/">The Business in College Sports</a><br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/espn-buyout-nfl-network-owns-media/">How the NFL Turns Chaos into an Asset<br>The NFL Owns the Media</a></p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>First &amp; Long with Mitch and Adam Long — a <a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/">SportsEpreneur</a> series.</p><p><br><strong>SportsEpreneur:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/SportsEpreneur">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/sportsepreneur/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers, Steelers 2025, Will Howard, Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, quarterback, offensive line, NFL roster building, father …NFL Draft, Pittsburgh Steelers, Steelers 2025, Will Howard, Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, quarterback, offensive line, NFL roster building, father son podcast, football podcast, First and Long, Mitch Long, Adam Long, SportsEpreneur, trench play, draft strategy, fan podcast, steel curtain</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>50 Years in Business with Wes Connor</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>50 Years in Business with Wes Connor</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 50 years in insurance teaches about relationships, change, and why the basics still matter.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long sits down with Wes Connor to talk about how he got into insurance, what kept him in it, and what 50 years in the business has taught him.</p><p>They get into family business, remote selling, hiring challenges, commercial and personal lines, and why life insurance still stands apart from products people are required to buy. It’s a grounded look at what still matters in the business, what has changed, and why the basics still win.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><ul><li>How Wes Connor got into insurance in 1975</li><li>From kitchen table sales to DocuSign and video calls</li><li>Why relationships still matter in a more digital business</li><li>Working with family across generations</li><li>Hiring challenges in today’s insurance market</li><li>Commercial versus personal lines in a changing market</li><li>Why life insurance feels different from mandatory coverage</li><li>Disability, long-term care, and planning before it’s too late</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:20 – Mitch welcomes Wes Connor<br>00:41 – How Wes got into the insurance business<br>03:15 – Starting out and falling in love with the work<br>05:21 – How selling insurance has changed over the years<br>08:00 – Podcasts, technology, and the next generation in the business<br>11:00 – Working with family and building an agency over time<br>12:00 – Hiring challenges and the shortage of new agents<br>16:23 – Disability insurance, income protection, and planning gaps<br>16:52 – Wes breaks down his agency’s commercial and personal lines mix<br>19:19 – Why selling life insurance is more satisfying<br>21:00 – Real examples of how life insurance changes outcomes for families<br>23:29 – Long-term care, aging, and staying healthy</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a><br><strong>Connect with Wes Connor:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wes-connor-2a172313/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://wesconnor.com/">Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wes_connor_insurance/">Instagram</a></p><p><br><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-bowl-games-dying/">What Happened to CFB Bowl Games</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/remote-work-financial-advisory-industry-joe-cantanucci/">Remote Work in Today’s Financial Advisory Industry</a> —Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast</strong></p><p>The Long Game with Mitch Long. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>, a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 50 years in insurance teaches about relationships, change, and why the basics still matter.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long sits down with Wes Connor to talk about how he got into insurance, what kept him in it, and what 50 years in the business has taught him.</p><p>They get into family business, remote selling, hiring challenges, commercial and personal lines, and why life insurance still stands apart from products people are required to buy. It’s a grounded look at what still matters in the business, what has changed, and why the basics still win.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><ul><li>How Wes Connor got into insurance in 1975</li><li>From kitchen table sales to DocuSign and video calls</li><li>Why relationships still matter in a more digital business</li><li>Working with family across generations</li><li>Hiring challenges in today’s insurance market</li><li>Commercial versus personal lines in a changing market</li><li>Why life insurance feels different from mandatory coverage</li><li>Disability, long-term care, and planning before it’s too late</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:20 – Mitch welcomes Wes Connor<br>00:41 – How Wes got into the insurance business<br>03:15 – Starting out and falling in love with the work<br>05:21 – How selling insurance has changed over the years<br>08:00 – Podcasts, technology, and the next generation in the business<br>11:00 – Working with family and building an agency over time<br>12:00 – Hiring challenges and the shortage of new agents<br>16:23 – Disability insurance, income protection, and planning gaps<br>16:52 – Wes breaks down his agency’s commercial and personal lines mix<br>19:19 – Why selling life insurance is more satisfying<br>21:00 – Real examples of how life insurance changes outcomes for families<br>23:29 – Long-term care, aging, and staying healthy</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a><br><strong>Connect with Wes Connor:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wes-connor-2a172313/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://wesconnor.com/">Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wes_connor_insurance/">Instagram</a></p><p><br><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-bowl-games-dying/">What Happened to CFB Bowl Games</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/remote-work-financial-advisory-industry-joe-cantanucci/">Remote Work in Today’s Financial Advisory Industry</a> —Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast</strong></p><p>The Long Game with Mitch Long. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>, a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 11:54:31 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mitch Long</author>
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      <itunes:author>Mitch Long</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What 50 years in insurance teaches about relationships, change, and why the basics still matter.</p><p>In this episode of The Long Game, Mitch Long sits down with Wes Connor to talk about how he got into insurance, what kept him in it, and what 50 years in the business has taught him.</p><p>They get into family business, remote selling, hiring challenges, commercial and personal lines, and why life insurance still stands apart from products people are required to buy. It’s a grounded look at what still matters in the business, what has changed, and why the basics still win.</p><p><br>WHAT WE TALK ABOUT</p><ul><li>How Wes Connor got into insurance in 1975</li><li>From kitchen table sales to DocuSign and video calls</li><li>Why relationships still matter in a more digital business</li><li>Working with family across generations</li><li>Hiring challenges in today’s insurance market</li><li>Commercial versus personal lines in a changing market</li><li>Why life insurance feels different from mandatory coverage</li><li>Disability, long-term care, and planning before it’s too late</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p>00:20 – Mitch welcomes Wes Connor<br>00:41 – How Wes got into the insurance business<br>03:15 – Starting out and falling in love with the work<br>05:21 – How selling insurance has changed over the years<br>08:00 – Podcasts, technology, and the next generation in the business<br>11:00 – Working with family and building an agency over time<br>12:00 – Hiring challenges and the shortage of new agents<br>16:23 – Disability insurance, income protection, and planning gaps<br>16:52 – Wes breaks down his agency’s commercial and personal lines mix<br>19:19 – Why selling life insurance is more satisfying<br>21:00 – Real examples of how life insurance changes outcomes for families<br>23:29 – Long-term care, aging, and staying healthy</p><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long: </strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a> | Read: <a href="https://kazcm.com/pagers-payphones-content-social-media/">Pagers &amp; Payphones</a><br><strong>Connect with Wes Connor:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/wes-connor-2a172313/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://wesconnor.com/">Website</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wes_connor_insurance/">Instagram</a></p><p><br><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/roi-of-podcasting-bob-knakal/">The Real ROI of Podcasting</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/college-football-bowl-games-dying/">What Happened to CFB Bowl Games</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/remote-work-financial-advisory-industry-joe-cantanucci/">Remote Work in Today’s Financial Advisory Industry</a> —Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><br><strong>About This Podcast</strong></p><p>The Long Game with Mitch Long. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>, a KazSource brand.</p><p><br><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>insurance, business, storytelling, history, entrepreneurship, longevity, Wes Connor</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>The Long Game: Meet Mitch Long</title>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why stories beat pitches, why showing up still matters, and what this series is about.</p><p>Eric Kasimov sits down with Mitch Long to kick off The Long Game. Mitch has been in the insurance business for over 30 years. He started with a pager and a roll of quarters. He built his book by showing up every Tuesday until people just started handing him the business. Now he's here to have conversations with business owners about how they got where they are — the real version, not the LinkedIn version.</p><p><strong>What We Talk About:</strong></p><ul><li>Criminal justice major to insurance salesman</li><li>The 93-year-old woman and the bell story</li><li>Why face-to-face still matters (and why it's not enough anymore)</li><li>Pagers, Blackberries, and the quarantine pivot</li><li>The buggy whip salesman problem</li><li>NIL, college sports, and what it means to stay relevant</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><ul><li>00:14 – What this show is and how conversations work</li><li>01:00 – Mitch's path into insurance</li><li>08:27 – Podcasting as a way to connect</li><li>13:00 – Old school meets new school</li><li>21:30 – Adjusting how you reach people</li><li>23:45 – Pagers, payphones, and quarters</li><li>26:00 – Blackberry, Gateway, and what happens when you don't evolve</li><li>28:00 – The buggy whip salesman</li><li>30:00 – Mitch's grandfather sold matches</li><li>31:30 – MC Hammer selling records out of his trunk</li><li>32:01 – NIL and financial literacy</li></ul><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a></p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/ambient-influence-content-strategy/">Ambient Influence in Content</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/nil-pros-and-cons/">The Benefits and Issues of NIL</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/is-college-still-worth-it/">Is College Still Worth It?</a> — Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game with Mitch Long. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>, a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why stories beat pitches, why showing up still matters, and what this series is about.</p><p>Eric Kasimov sits down with Mitch Long to kick off The Long Game. Mitch has been in the insurance business for over 30 years. He started with a pager and a roll of quarters. He built his book by showing up every Tuesday until people just started handing him the business. Now he's here to have conversations with business owners about how they got where they are — the real version, not the LinkedIn version.</p><p><strong>What We Talk About:</strong></p><ul><li>Criminal justice major to insurance salesman</li><li>The 93-year-old woman and the bell story</li><li>Why face-to-face still matters (and why it's not enough anymore)</li><li>Pagers, Blackberries, and the quarantine pivot</li><li>The buggy whip salesman problem</li><li>NIL, college sports, and what it means to stay relevant</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><ul><li>00:14 – What this show is and how conversations work</li><li>01:00 – Mitch's path into insurance</li><li>08:27 – Podcasting as a way to connect</li><li>13:00 – Old school meets new school</li><li>21:30 – Adjusting how you reach people</li><li>23:45 – Pagers, payphones, and quarters</li><li>26:00 – Blackberry, Gateway, and what happens when you don't evolve</li><li>28:00 – The buggy whip salesman</li><li>30:00 – Mitch's grandfather sold matches</li><li>31:30 – MC Hammer selling records out of his trunk</li><li>32:01 – NIL and financial literacy</li></ul><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a></p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/ambient-influence-content-strategy/">Ambient Influence in Content</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/nil-pros-and-cons/">The Benefits and Issues of NIL</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/is-college-still-worth-it/">Is College Still Worth It?</a> — Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game with Mitch Long. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>, a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2026 11:48:41 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mitch Long</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why stories beat pitches, why showing up still matters, and what this series is about.</p><p>Eric Kasimov sits down with Mitch Long to kick off The Long Game. Mitch has been in the insurance business for over 30 years. He started with a pager and a roll of quarters. He built his book by showing up every Tuesday until people just started handing him the business. Now he's here to have conversations with business owners about how they got where they are — the real version, not the LinkedIn version.</p><p><strong>What We Talk About:</strong></p><ul><li>Criminal justice major to insurance salesman</li><li>The 93-year-old woman and the bell story</li><li>Why face-to-face still matters (and why it's not enough anymore)</li><li>Pagers, Blackberries, and the quarantine pivot</li><li>The buggy whip salesman problem</li><li>NIL, college sports, and what it means to stay relevant</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><ul><li>00:14 – What this show is and how conversations work</li><li>01:00 – Mitch's path into insurance</li><li>08:27 – Podcasting as a way to connect</li><li>13:00 – Old school meets new school</li><li>21:30 – Adjusting how you reach people</li><li>23:45 – Pagers, payphones, and quarters</li><li>26:00 – Blackberry, Gateway, and what happens when you don't evolve</li><li>28:00 – The buggy whip salesman</li><li>30:00 – Mitch's grandfather sold matches</li><li>31:30 – MC Hammer selling records out of his trunk</li><li>32:01 – NIL and financial literacy</li></ul><p><strong>Connect with Mitch Long</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchlongnc/">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://kazinsurance.com/">KazInsurance</a></p><p><strong>More from the KazSource Network</strong></p><p><a href="https://kazcm.com/ambient-influence-content-strategy/">Ambient Influence in Content</a> — KazCM<br><a href="https://sportsepreneur.com/nil-pros-and-cons/">The Benefits and Issues of NIL</a> — SportsEpreneur<br><a href="https://kazsource.com/is-college-still-worth-it/">Is College Still Worth It?</a> — Entrepreneur Perspectives</p><p><strong>About This Podcast and Series</strong></p><p>The Long Game with Mitch Long. Produced by <a href="https://quietloudstudios.com/">QuietLoud Studios</a>, a KazSource brand.</p><p><strong>Get in touch with Eric Kasimov:</strong><br><a href="https://x.com/eric_kaz">X</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickasimov/">LinkedIn</a></p><p><strong>Credits:</strong><br>Music by Jess &amp; Ricky — <a href="https://soundcloud.com/user-774649902/sets/jess-ricky">SoundCloud</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>insurance, business, storytelling, history, entrepreneurship, Mitch Long</itunes:keywords>
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