The Elusive Dream Podcast Transistor (https://transistor.fm) https://feeds.transistor.fm/the-elusive-dream-podcast What is the elusive dream? The Elusive Dream Season One is a conversation between sociologist, Dr. Korie Little Edwards and clergy, Pastor Rich Johnson about the intersection of race and religion. Together, we seek to uncover the hidden forces in our society that deepen racial injustices. © 2026 Urban Arts Digital 2e9f5593-1aa0-53ec-94bc-fa66f1bdf989 yes Why Call the Podcast The Elusive Dream? en Thu, 23 Apr 2026 11:48:46 -0400 Thu, 23 Apr 2026 11:49:15 -0400 https://img.transistorcdn.com/A1cdPNMPQHSFAzuz0NrkU6u73tXY9kdpGNJ-4POYzk8/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9zaG93/LzE2OTc2LzE2MDgw/Njk1NTgtYXJ0d29y/ay5qcGc.jpg The Elusive Dream Podcast episodic Urban Arts Digital What is the elusive dream? The Elusive Dream Season One is a conversation between sociologist, Dr. Korie Little Edwards and clergy, Pastor Rich Johnson about the intersection of race and religion. Together, we seek to uncover the hidden forces in our society that deepen racial injustices. What is the elusive dream. Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion Urban Arts Digital No No Let the Women Lead 2 2 5 5 Let the Women Lead bonus 67d28dae-2ea2-4e51-abaf-17fa23ab8f8f https://share.transistor.fm/s/b19052ca In this bonus episode, hear the full interview with Pashia Thomas.

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]]> Tue, 31 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 1873 In this bonus episode, hear the full interview with Pashia Thomas. In this bonus episode, hear the full interview with Pashia Thomas. Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No The Gift of Song and Feminine Energy 2 2 5 5 The Gift of Song and Feminine Energy full 4418c80c-384a-4826-b483-5d140405e50a https://share.transistor.fm/s/8b629b4a In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich lift up a woman’s voice in the conversation about mobilizing the black church. There are both historical and current events that confirm their essential role. 

]]> In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich lift up a woman’s voice in the conversation about mobilizing the black church. There are both historical and current events that confirm their essential role. 

]]> Mon, 16 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 1875 In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich lift up a woman’s voice in the conversation about mobilizing the black church. There are both historical and current events that confirm their essential role. In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich lift up a woman’s voice in the conversation about mobilizing the black church. There are both historical and current events that confirm their essential role. Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No The Black Leader as Mediator 2 2 4 4 The Black Leader as Mediator full 598017b1-db9c-4a6f-8c54-b82faa9aade3 https://share.transistor.fm/s/31b2fbbe In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich discuss the complexities of the mediator role of black church leaders. It’s an important role that challenges leaders as they serve and mobilize the community. 

]]> In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich discuss the complexities of the mediator role of black church leaders. It’s an important role that challenges leaders as they serve and mobilize the community. 

]]> Tue, 03 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 2230 In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich discuss the complexities of the mediator role of black church leaders. It’s an important role that challenges leaders as they serve and mobilize the community. In this episode, Dr. Korie and Ps Rich discuss the complexities of the mediator role of black church leaders. It’s an important role that challenges leaders as they serve and mobilize the community. Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No A New Generation of Black Leaders 2 2 3 3 A New Generation of Black Leaders full 02933b6f-85fb-401e-9c2a-8cffd733a19c https://share.transistor.fm/s/ea81b83c In episode 3, Pastor Rich and Dr. Korie focus on challenges that a younger generation of Black pastors face when trying to mobilize the church. They discuss their interview with Pastor Taelor Gray, who is a local pastor, hip hop artist and podcaster. To make progress in the community, leaders need to become more in touch with their community. Do we have ears to hear?

]]> In episode 3, Pastor Rich and Dr. Korie focus on challenges that a younger generation of Black pastors face when trying to mobilize the church. They discuss their interview with Pastor Taelor Gray, who is a local pastor, hip hop artist and podcaster. To make progress in the community, leaders need to become more in touch with their community. Do we have ears to hear?

]]> Mon, 21 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 2397 In episode 3, Pastor Rich and Dr. Korie focus on challenges that a younger generation of Black pastors face when trying to mobilize the church. They discuss their interview with Pastor Taelor Gray, who is a local pastor, hip hop artist and podcaster. To make progress in the community, leaders need to become more in touch with their community. Do we have ears to hear? In episode 3, Pastor Rich and Dr. Korie focus on challenges that a younger generation of Black pastors face when trying to mobilize the church. They discuss their interview with Pastor Taelor Gray, who is a local pastor, hip hop artist and podcaster. To m Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Smart Suits Tattered Boots 2 2 2 2 Smart Suits Tattered Boots full ad0af731-1a88-44f7-82ed-41605c92cb65 https://share.transistor.fm/s/4373d514 In episode 2, pastor Rich interviews Dr. Korie on her latest book, Smart Suits Tattered Boots, released February 1st. The Black Church is uniquely equipped to mobilize for racial justice, but what factors contribute or hinder their effectiveness? Join the journey today! 

]]> In episode 2, pastor Rich interviews Dr. Korie on her latest book, Smart Suits Tattered Boots, released February 1st. The Black Church is uniquely equipped to mobilize for racial justice, but what factors contribute or hinder their effectiveness? Join the journey today! 

]]> Mon, 07 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 1678 In episode 2, Pastor Rich interviews Dr. Korie on her latest book, Smart Suits Tattered Boots, released February 1st. The Black Church is uniquely equipped to mobilize for racial justice, but what factors contribute or hinder their effectiveness? Join the journey today! In episode 2, Pastor Rich interviews Dr. Korie on her latest book, Smart Suits Tattered Boots, released February 1st. The Black Church is uniquely equipped to mobilize for racial justice, but what factors contribute or hinder their effectiveness? Join the Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Welcome Back 2 2 1 1 Welcome Back full 5d688e2b-3c53-4b20-b4e9-d680d788b2cb https://share.transistor.fm/s/772490ab In this first episode of season 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich are back and share what they’ve been up to since last season. They’ve got exciting news to share as the Elusive Dream continues to build a beloved community.

]]> In this first episode of season 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich are back and share what they’ve been up to since last season. They’ve got exciting news to share as the Elusive Dream continues to build a beloved community.

]]> Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 1153 In this first episode of season 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich are back and share what they’ve been up to since last season. They’ve got exciting news to share as the Elusive Dream continues to build a beloved community. In this first episode of season 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich are back and share what they’ve been up to since last season. They’ve got exciting news to share as the Elusive Dream continues to build a beloved community. Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Come to the Altar 1 1 8 8 Come to the Altar full e5013698-8a13-4e17-a9f2-1dbf90b78522 https://share.transistor.fm/s/10165ac4 In the final episode of The Elusive Dream Podcast, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich reflect on the discussions and interviews of the previous episodes. What’s next for our growing podcast community? Where do we go from here to pursue the beloved community? Come join us at the altar.

]]> In the final episode of The Elusive Dream Podcast, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich reflect on the discussions and interviews of the previous episodes. What’s next for our growing podcast community? Where do we go from here to pursue the beloved community? Come join us at the altar.

]]> Mon, 17 May 2021 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 2433 In the final episode of The Elusive Dream Podcast, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich reflect on the discussions and interviews of the previous episodes. What’s next for our growing podcast community? Where do we go from here to pursue the beloved community? Come join us at the altar. In the final episode of The Elusive Dream Podcast, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich reflect on the discussions and interviews of the previous episodes. What’s next for our growing podcast community? Where do we go from here to pursue the beloved community? Come Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Strength to Love 1 1 7 7 Strength to Love full 017ab617-3da9-4852-98db-2f2ee6dc5d00 https://share.transistor.fm/s/01499257 In episode 7, Dr. Korie interviews Pastor Bryan Loritts on his experience leading a multiracial church as a person of color. Along with insight from Pastor Rich, they discuss the need for a strength to love in the midst of the struggle for justice. 

Show Notes:

  • Episode 6 Recap (2:43)
  • Leading a Multiracial Church as a Pastor of Color (6:01)
  • Woke White Christians (12:47)
  • Dr. King/”Strength to Love” (21:49)
  • Finding Hope (28:07)
  • How do You Take Care of Yourself? (32:43)
]]> In episode 7, Dr. Korie interviews Pastor Bryan Loritts on his experience leading a multiracial church as a person of color. Along with insight from Pastor Rich, they discuss the need for a strength to love in the midst of the struggle for justice. 

Show Notes:

  • Episode 6 Recap (2:43)
  • Leading a Multiracial Church as a Pastor of Color (6:01)
  • Woke White Christians (12:47)
  • Dr. King/”Strength to Love” (21:49)
  • Finding Hope (28:07)
  • How do You Take Care of Yourself? (32:43)
]]> Mon, 26 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 2654 In episode 7, Dr. Korie interviews Pastor Bryan Loritts on his experience leading a multiracial church as a person of color. Along with insight from Pastor Rich, they discuss the need for a strength to love in the midst of the struggle for justice. In episode 7, Dr. Korie interviews Pastor Bryan Loritts on his experience leading a multiracial church as a person of color. Along with insight from Pastor Rich, they discuss the need for a strength to love in the midst of the struggle for justice. Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Rev. Goatley discusses the Black Church 1 1 4 4 Rev. Goatley discusses the Black Church bonus 5b19be0e-583b-4064-927e-902890c2be66 https://share.transistor.fm/s/04345ae6 This bonus episode is the full-length interview from Dr. Korie Little Edwards and Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley. The Black Church has a historical and relevant perspective on matters of justice. Shaped from the crucible of racial segregation, what does the Black Church have to say about injustice?

]]> This bonus episode is the full-length interview from Dr. Korie Little Edwards and Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley. The Black Church has a historical and relevant perspective on matters of justice. Shaped from the crucible of racial segregation, what does the Black Church have to say about injustice?

]]> Mon, 12 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 4195 This bonus episode is the full-length interview from Dr. Korie Little Edwards and Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley. The Black Church has a historical and relevant perspective on matters of justice. Shaped from the crucible of racial segregation, what does the Black Church have to say about injustice? This bonus episode is the full-length interview from Dr. Korie Little Edwards and Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley. The Black Church has a historical and relevant perspective on matters of justice. Shaped from the crucible of racial segregation, what does Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No The Religion of Whiteness 1 1 6 6 The Religion of Whiteness full b1d3a917-3b21-4027-9f64-dde40c38d9eb https://share.transistor.fm/s/96b1d088 In episode 6, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich engage updated research from guest, Dr. Michael Emerson, author of the culture-shifting book Divided By Faith. Current data suggests that the racial divide has gotten worse, not better, in the last 20 years. What shall we call this divide?


Show Notes:

  • Episode 5 Recap (:52)
  • What’s going on with our white siblings? (3:26)
  • Why has it gotten worse? (10:11)
  • Is this new? (15:53)
  • Is there any hope? (27:30)
]]> In episode 6, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich engage updated research from guest, Dr. Michael Emerson, author of the culture-shifting book Divided By Faith. Current data suggests that the racial divide has gotten worse, not better, in the last 20 years. What shall we call this divide?


Show Notes:

  • Episode 5 Recap (:52)
  • What’s going on with our white siblings? (3:26)
  • Why has it gotten worse? (10:11)
  • Is this new? (15:53)
  • Is there any hope? (27:30)
]]> Mon, 29 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 2203 In episode 6, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich engage updated research from guest, Dr. Michael Emerson, author of the culture-shifting book Divided By Faith. Current data suggests that the racial divide has gotten worse, not better, in the last 20 years. What shall we call this divide? In episode 6, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich engage updated research from guest, Dr. Michael Emerson, author of the culture-shifting book Divided By Faith. Current data suggests that the racial divide has gotten worse, not better, in the last 20 years. What sh Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Truth, Reconciliation & Reparations 1 1 5 5 Truth, Reconciliation & Reparations full 51047fd3-1aef-4a81-bdf9-17025570adda https://share.transistor.fm/s/962a31ee Recognizing that words have the power to create thoughts and form habits, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the ongoing debate about the word “reconciliation”. Is it still useful in this work of justice and multiracial community? Listen with open ears to their guest, Rev. Curtiss Paul DeYoung, an author and community activist with a long history on this subject.


Show Notes

  • Episode 4 Recap (:40)
  • Language and why it’s important (3:30)
  • How the church got reconciliation wrong (21:36)
  • What is biblical reconciliation? (26:26)
  • Terms and vocabulary need clarification (31:09)
  • Practical Work of Biblical Justice (35:19)
  • Reparations or Reconciliation (42:15)
  • What do justice and reconciliation look like? (53:20)
  • What about forgiveness? (1:05:07)
]]> Recognizing that words have the power to create thoughts and form habits, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the ongoing debate about the word “reconciliation”. Is it still useful in this work of justice and multiracial community? Listen with open ears to their guest, Rev. Curtiss Paul DeYoung, an author and community activist with a long history on this subject.


Show Notes

  • Episode 4 Recap (:40)
  • Language and why it’s important (3:30)
  • How the church got reconciliation wrong (21:36)
  • What is biblical reconciliation? (26:26)
  • Terms and vocabulary need clarification (31:09)
  • Practical Work of Biblical Justice (35:19)
  • Reparations or Reconciliation (42:15)
  • What do justice and reconciliation look like? (53:20)
  • What about forgiveness? (1:05:07)
]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0400 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 4468 Recognizing that words have the power to create thoughts and form habits, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the ongoing debate about the word “reconciliation”. Is it still useful in this work of justice and multiracial community? Listen with open ears to their guest, Rev. Curtiss Paul DeYoung, an author and community activist with a long history on this subject. Recognizing that words have the power to create thoughts and form habits, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the ongoing debate about the word “reconciliation”. Is it still useful in this work of justice and multiracial community? Listen with open ears to Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No The Value & Voice of the Black Church 1 1 4 4 The Value & Voice of the Black Church full 33afbaf4-13cf-4791-8f77-3e0c4f6145c7 https://share.transistor.fm/s/87259524 In episode 4, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the meaning and relevance of the Black Church in the beloved community. They welcome the voice of Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley, the director of Black Church Studies at Duke Divinity School. The main question is this, “What do we have to learn from the Black Church in this conversation?”

  • Episode 3 Recap (0:27)
  • Personal Experience in the Black Church (2:04)
  • Why do we even have a Black Church? (7:32)
  • Black Church as a family (17:03)
  • Black Church Theology (24:01)
  • What can the White Church learn from the Black Church? (30:48)
]]> In episode 4, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the meaning and relevance of the Black Church in the beloved community. They welcome the voice of Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley, the director of Black Church Studies at Duke Divinity School. The main question is this, “What do we have to learn from the Black Church in this conversation?”

  • Episode 3 Recap (0:27)
  • Personal Experience in the Black Church (2:04)
  • Why do we even have a Black Church? (7:32)
  • Black Church as a family (17:03)
  • Black Church Theology (24:01)
  • What can the White Church learn from the Black Church? (30:48)
]]> Mon, 01 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 2733 In episode 4, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the meaning and relevance of the Black Church in the beloved community. They welcome the voice of Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley, the director of Black Church Studies at Duke Divinity School. The main question is this, “What do we have to learn from the Black Church in this conversation?” In episode 4, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the meaning and relevance of the Black Church in the beloved community. They welcome the voice of Rev. Dr. David Emmanuel Goatley, the director of Black Church Studies at Duke Divinity School. The main quest Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No White Patriarchy and Sexism 1 1 3 3 White Patriarchy and Sexism bonus 1320c98a-e71e-4091-bb03-49469b1cbdaf https://share.transistor.fm/s/b5923259 In this bonus content, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich have a brief conversation about the interconnection of white patriarchy and sexism that is linked to white supremacy and racism. How do we recognize these interlocking systems and address them structurally?

]]> In this bonus content, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich have a brief conversation about the interconnection of white patriarchy and sexism that is linked to white supremacy and racism. How do we recognize these interlocking systems and address them structurally?

]]> Mon, 22 Feb 2021 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 435 In this bonus content, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich have a brief conversation about the interconnection of white patriarchy and sexism that is linked to white supremacy and racism. How do we recognize these interlocking systems and address them structurally? In this bonus content, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich have a brief conversation about the interconnection of white patriarchy and sexism that is linked to white supremacy and racism. How do we recognize these interlocking systems and address them structurally? Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Systems of Supremacy & the Stories We Tell 1 1 3 3 Systems of Supremacy & the Stories We Tell full 5e912c06-aba4-4b63-9917-89583bdee17c https://share.transistor.fm/s/968be2c7 In episode 3, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the root of white supremacy and welcome the guest voice of Rev. Ines Valesques McBryde. The stories we tell shape our identity. What story should we tell about white supremacy and its effect on all people?

Show Notes:

Episode 2 Recap (0:53)

What’s White Supremacy? (2:53)

The Origin of Supremacy (10:30)

The Curse Becomes the Blessing (21:02)

White Supremacy and the Church (36:32)

]]> In episode 3, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the root of white supremacy and welcome the guest voice of Rev. Ines Valesques McBryde. The stories we tell shape our identity. What story should we tell about white supremacy and its effect on all people?

Show Notes:

Episode 2 Recap (0:53)

What’s White Supremacy? (2:53)

The Origin of Supremacy (10:30)

The Curse Becomes the Blessing (21:02)

White Supremacy and the Church (36:32)

]]> Mon, 15 Feb 2021 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 3072 In episode 3, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the root of white supremacy and welcome the guest voice of Rev. Ines Valesques McBryde. The stories we tell shape our identity. What story should we tell about white supremacy and its effect on all people? In episode 3, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the root of white supremacy and welcome the guest voice of Rev. Ines Valesques McBryde. The stories we tell shape our identity. What story should we tell about white supremacy and its effect on all people? Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Which Comes First, Diversity or Justice? 1 1 2 2 Which Comes First, Diversity or Justice? full d41e182e-27a2-4e35-80d1-9ec3eb530602 https://share.transistor.fm/s/93327cf5 What comes first, diversity or justice? In episode 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich answer this question by looking at the social impact of the Civil Rights movement. Jemar Tisby also shares a brief history of the impact of white supremacy on the church. We’ve come a long way, but there is still a long way to go.

Show Notes:

Episode 1 Recap (0:23)

What comes first? The chicken or the egg? (1:18)

Homogenous Unit Principle (3:02)

Race and Homophily/Oppression (3:30)

The Effect of Legislation & Law Changes on Segregation (11:06)

Jamar Tisby (14:00)

Increase in Church Diversity (26:38)

Multiracial Church Movement (27:52)

What is Justice? (41:15)

]]> What comes first, diversity or justice? In episode 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich answer this question by looking at the social impact of the Civil Rights movement. Jemar Tisby also shares a brief history of the impact of white supremacy on the church. We’ve come a long way, but there is still a long way to go.

Show Notes:

Episode 1 Recap (0:23)

What comes first? The chicken or the egg? (1:18)

Homogenous Unit Principle (3:02)

Race and Homophily/Oppression (3:30)

The Effect of Legislation & Law Changes on Segregation (11:06)

Jamar Tisby (14:00)

Increase in Church Diversity (26:38)

Multiracial Church Movement (27:52)

What is Justice? (41:15)

]]> Mon, 01 Feb 2021 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 3084 What comes first, diversity or justice? In episode 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich answer this question by looking at the social impact of the Civil Rights movement. Jemar Tisby also shares a brief history of the impact of white supremacy on the church. We’ve come a long way, but there is still a long way to go. What comes first, diversity or justice? In episode 2, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich answer this question by looking at the social impact of the Civil Rights movement. Jemar Tisby also shares a brief history of the impact of white supremacy on the church. We’v Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No The Dream is a Beloved Community 1 1 1 1 The Dream is a Beloved Community full 44d72cbc-a739-49a2-acb1-78a7e9a0e86a https://share.transistor.fm/s/bdef545f In this episode, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the real dream of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the two obstacles getting in the way of truly living this out in America. Diversity has become the goal of secular and religious institutions, but is that the way to achieving the dream? Recapture your imagination for the beloved community of Dr. King and the faith that shaped his vision. 

(1:09) Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

(4:31) What's the significance of releasing on Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr Day?

(7:43) Beloved Community/What led you to study/practice multiracial ministry? 

(18:55) How did Korie & Rich meet?

(23:53) The Awakening/Trayvon Martin

(25:43) Cheap Diversity

(29:32) Why is living out the Beloved Community so elusive?

(52:35) Diversity vs. Oneness/Beloved Community Definition

]]> In this episode, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the real dream of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the two obstacles getting in the way of truly living this out in America. Diversity has become the goal of secular and religious institutions, but is that the way to achieving the dream? Recapture your imagination for the beloved community of Dr. King and the faith that shaped his vision. 

(1:09) Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

(4:31) What's the significance of releasing on Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr Day?

(7:43) Beloved Community/What led you to study/practice multiracial ministry? 

(18:55) How did Korie & Rich meet?

(23:53) The Awakening/Trayvon Martin

(25:43) Cheap Diversity

(29:32) Why is living out the Beloved Community so elusive?

(52:35) Diversity vs. Oneness/Beloved Community Definition

]]> Mon, 18 Jan 2021 00:00:00 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 3399 In this episode, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the real dream of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the two obstacles getting in the way of truly living this out in America. Diversity has become the goal of secular and religious institutions, but is that the way to achieving the dream? Recapture your imagination for the beloved community of Dr. King and the faith that shaped his vision. In this episode, Dr. Korie and Pastor Rich discuss the real dream of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the two obstacles getting in the way of truly living this out in America. Diversity has become the goal of secular and religious institutions, but is Race, Church, Christian, Christian Church, religion No Why Call the Podcast The Elusive Dream? 1 1 Why Call the Podcast The Elusive Dream? trailer 37b7cd11-6069-4558-b3a9-485252938449 https://share.transistor.fm/s/cefaf3a8 Why call the podcast The Elusive Dream? Meet the hosts, learn the story behind and purpose for this necessary podcast. 

]]> Why call the podcast The Elusive Dream? Meet the hosts, learn the story behind and purpose for this necessary podcast. 

]]> Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:03:03 -0500 Urban Arts Digital Urban Arts Digital 777 Why call the podcast The Elusive Dream? Meet the hosts, learn the story behind and purpose for this necessary podcast. 

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