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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the secret to scaling your business isn't about selling harder, but about serving better? On this episode, Matt Wolfe and Sarah Pattisall sit down with Dusty Holcomb, CEO of The Arcqus Group, to unpack a career built on one deceptively simple idea: leadership isn't about you. Dusty shares how a 23-year-old version of himself learned that lesson the hard way, why he reframes "sales" as "service," and how the ability to say no to the wrong clients is often what protects your ability to scale the right way. Along the way, they dig into brand story as a culture catalyst, the leadership operating system Dusty built from decades of hard-won lessons, and why clarity — not execution — is where real growth begins.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Dusty's childhood dream was to be a cowboy or a game warden — and he argues leading people isn't all that different.</li><li>The core leadership lesson that shaped his entire career: "It isn't about me."</li><li>Extracting value is linear; creating value is exponential.</li><li>Leadership is influence — helping people see what isn't yet created or possible.</li><li>A five-question framework Dusty uses with CEOs, including the pivotal question: "Where do I fit in?"</li><li>Why story translates words into behaviors and moves people from "mercenaries" to "missionaries."</li><li>The moment a team member called Dusty out at 23 years old — and how that became his first real lesson in clarity.</li><li>A leadership operating system built on clarity, alignment, and execution — in that order.</li><li>The story of turning down a big prospect because it wasn't the right fit, and why saying no protected the business.</li><li>Reframing sales as service: "I'm not showing up to sell you anything, I'm showing up to serve you."</li><li>Why relational value — introducing people with no expectation of return — creates a compounding flywheel of opportunity.</li><li>Dusty's book-in-progress on how leaders can be more impactful in the age of AI.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><ul><li>0:32 — Welcome and Teaser</li><li>2:57 — Meet Dusty Holcomb</li><li>3:20 — Cowboy Dreams Origins</li><li>6:11 — Service First Leadership</li><li>10:40 — Inspiration and Agency</li><li>14:47 — Story as Culture Catalyst</li><li>20:03 — Exceptional Service Framework</li><li>26:47 — Scaling Service Through Leaders</li><li>31:31 — Leadership Operating System</li><li>34:32 — Clarity Lesson Hard Truth</li><li>36:29 — Values Meet Actions</li><li>37:51 — Coaching And Blind Spots</li><li>39:08 — Brand Story Drives Scale</li><li>41:20 — Saying No To Grow</li><li>44:57 — Marketing With Discipline</li><li>47:47 — Sales As Service</li><li>52:10 — Relational Value Flywheel</li><li>56:35 — Behind The Brand Quiz</li><li>1:00:59 — Success Definition And Farewell</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0hMrNpnx">Man's Search for Meaning</a> by Viktor Frankl</li><li>Dusty Holcomb on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustyholcomb/">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.arcqusgroup.com/">The Arcqus Group</a></li><li><a href="https://www.myrulesofengagement.com/">My Rules of Engagement</a> — myrulesofengagement.com</li><li><a href="https://scalebeyondreferrals.com/">Scale Beyond Referrals</a> — scalebeyondreferrals.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the secret to scaling your business isn't about selling harder, but about serving better? On this episode, Matt Wolfe and Sarah Pattisall sit down with Dusty Holcomb, CEO of The Arcqus Group, to unpack a career built on one deceptively simple idea: leadership isn't about you. Dusty shares how a 23-year-old version of himself learned that lesson the hard way, why he reframes "sales" as "service," and how the ability to say no to the wrong clients is often what protects your ability to scale the right way. Along the way, they dig into brand story as a culture catalyst, the leadership operating system Dusty built from decades of hard-won lessons, and why clarity — not execution — is where real growth begins.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Dusty's childhood dream was to be a cowboy or a game warden — and he argues leading people isn't all that different.</li><li>The core leadership lesson that shaped his entire career: "It isn't about me."</li><li>Extracting value is linear; creating value is exponential.</li><li>Leadership is influence — helping people see what isn't yet created or possible.</li><li>A five-question framework Dusty uses with CEOs, including the pivotal question: "Where do I fit in?"</li><li>Why story translates words into behaviors and moves people from "mercenaries" to "missionaries."</li><li>The moment a team member called Dusty out at 23 years old — and how that became his first real lesson in clarity.</li><li>A leadership operating system built on clarity, alignment, and execution — in that order.</li><li>The story of turning down a big prospect because it wasn't the right fit, and why saying no protected the business.</li><li>Reframing sales as service: "I'm not showing up to sell you anything, I'm showing up to serve you."</li><li>Why relational value — introducing people with no expectation of return — creates a compounding flywheel of opportunity.</li><li>Dusty's book-in-progress on how leaders can be more impactful in the age of AI.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><ul><li>0:32 — Welcome and Teaser</li><li>2:57 — Meet Dusty Holcomb</li><li>3:20 — Cowboy Dreams Origins</li><li>6:11 — Service First Leadership</li><li>10:40 — Inspiration and Agency</li><li>14:47 — Story as Culture Catalyst</li><li>20:03 — Exceptional Service Framework</li><li>26:47 — Scaling Service Through Leaders</li><li>31:31 — Leadership Operating System</li><li>34:32 — Clarity Lesson Hard Truth</li><li>36:29 — Values Meet Actions</li><li>37:51 — Coaching And Blind Spots</li><li>39:08 — Brand Story Drives Scale</li><li>41:20 — Saying No To Grow</li><li>44:57 — Marketing With Discipline</li><li>47:47 — Sales As Service</li><li>52:10 — Relational Value Flywheel</li><li>56:35 — Behind The Brand Quiz</li><li>1:00:59 — Success Definition And Farewell</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0hMrNpnx">Man's Search for Meaning</a> by Viktor Frankl</li><li>Dusty Holcomb on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustyholcomb/">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.arcqusgroup.com/">The Arcqus Group</a></li><li><a href="https://www.myrulesofengagement.com/">My Rules of Engagement</a> — myrulesofengagement.com</li><li><a href="https://scalebeyondreferrals.com/">Scale Beyond Referrals</a> — scalebeyondreferrals.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the secret to scaling your business isn't about selling harder, but about serving better? On this episode, Matt Wolfe and Sarah Pattisall sit down with Dusty Holcomb, CEO of The Arcqus Group, to unpack a career built on one deceptively simple idea: leadership isn't about you. Dusty shares how a 23-year-old version of himself learned that lesson the hard way, why he reframes "sales" as "service," and how the ability to say no to the wrong clients is often what protects your ability to scale the right way. Along the way, they dig into brand story as a culture catalyst, the leadership operating system Dusty built from decades of hard-won lessons, and why clarity — not execution — is where real growth begins.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Dusty's childhood dream was to be a cowboy or a game warden — and he argues leading people isn't all that different.</li><li>The core leadership lesson that shaped his entire career: "It isn't about me."</li><li>Extracting value is linear; creating value is exponential.</li><li>Leadership is influence — helping people see what isn't yet created or possible.</li><li>A five-question framework Dusty uses with CEOs, including the pivotal question: "Where do I fit in?"</li><li>Why story translates words into behaviors and moves people from "mercenaries" to "missionaries."</li><li>The moment a team member called Dusty out at 23 years old — and how that became his first real lesson in clarity.</li><li>A leadership operating system built on clarity, alignment, and execution — in that order.</li><li>The story of turning down a big prospect because it wasn't the right fit, and why saying no protected the business.</li><li>Reframing sales as service: "I'm not showing up to sell you anything, I'm showing up to serve you."</li><li>Why relational value — introducing people with no expectation of return — creates a compounding flywheel of opportunity.</li><li>Dusty's book-in-progress on how leaders can be more impactful in the age of AI.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><ul><li>0:32 — Welcome and Teaser</li><li>2:57 — Meet Dusty Holcomb</li><li>3:20 — Cowboy Dreams Origins</li><li>6:11 — Service First Leadership</li><li>10:40 — Inspiration and Agency</li><li>14:47 — Story as Culture Catalyst</li><li>20:03 — Exceptional Service Framework</li><li>26:47 — Scaling Service Through Leaders</li><li>31:31 — Leadership Operating System</li><li>34:32 — Clarity Lesson Hard Truth</li><li>36:29 — Values Meet Actions</li><li>37:51 — Coaching And Blind Spots</li><li>39:08 — Brand Story Drives Scale</li><li>41:20 — Saying No To Grow</li><li>44:57 — Marketing With Discipline</li><li>47:47 — Sales As Service</li><li>52:10 — Relational Value Flywheel</li><li>56:35 — Behind The Brand Quiz</li><li>1:00:59 — Success Definition And Farewell</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0hMrNpnx">Man's Search for Meaning</a> by Viktor Frankl</li><li>Dusty Holcomb on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustyholcomb/">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.arcqusgroup.com/">The Arcqus Group</a></li><li><a href="https://www.myrulesofengagement.com/">My Rules of Engagement</a> — myrulesofengagement.com</li><li><a href="https://scalebeyondreferrals.com/">Scale Beyond Referrals</a> — scalebeyondreferrals.com</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Building Dreams | George Sandmann on Strategic Capacity and Impactful Communities</title>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Building Dreams | George Sandmann on Strategic Capacity and Impactful Communities</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest threat to your clients' life work isn't a bad market — it's a business that simply won't survive due diligence?</p><p><br></p><p>George Sandmann, founder and CEO of GrowthDrive, has spent decades building companies, crashing a few into the side of the mountain, and coming out the other side with a clear-eyed mission: help financial advisors equip the private businesses they serve to grow, scale, and actually succeed at transition. George is an attorney, a data geek, a passionate entrepreneur — and a self-described addict when it comes to helping people win. In this conversation, we unpack the staggering statistics behind business exits, introduce the concept of "strategic capacity," and explore why community, culture, and human connection are the real engines behind GrowthDrive's growth.</p><p><br></p><p>Episode Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>19 out of 20 businesses do not qualify to successfully complete an M&amp;A transaction as currently run — and 75% of owners who do sell end up regretting it (per the Exit Planning Institute)</li><li>There is approximately $10 trillion worth of businesses that need to transition, but only $2 trillion in available capital — making it literally market-impossible for everyone to sell to a third party</li><li>George's "Clarity" technology platform helps business owners see exactly where they stand vs. best-in-class, and calculates a predicted transaction price — not just a value</li><li>Strategic capacity is the true north star: a business's ability to predictably and sustainably grow free cash flow</li><li>GrowthDrive operates as a "tiny giant" — just two core team members, with a dedicated offshore dev team and a self-sustaining advisor community that provides peer-to-peer support</li><li>Culture isn't ping pong tables and pizza Fridays — it's the outward manifestation of what a business actually believes and how it operates</li><li>Brand is the story. When that story is right, it doesn't just fix marketing — it rallies the team and transforms culture</li><li>AI is accelerating a hunger for human connection, which is a massive advantage for relational B2B service providers</li><li>GrowthDrive now grows almost entirely through referrals, having shifted away from traditional webinar and outbound marketing models</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Intro &amp; Meet George Sandmann</p><p>1:14 – Meet George Sandmann (pre-interview debrief with Holland)</p><p>4:38 – Human Opening Question</p><p>4:38 – From Law to Startups</p><p>5:30 – Mission &amp; Market Data</p><p>9:31 – Advisor Model Explained</p><p>9:51 – Entrepreneurial Addiction</p><p>11:41 – Community Builder Role</p><p>12:48 – Clarity Tech Platform</p><p>14:47 – Exit Planning Hard Truths</p><p>17:55 – Who Should Call GrowthDrive</p><p>21:27 – Client Relationship Story</p><p>25:10 – Scaling High Touch Service</p><p>31:26 – Tiny Giant Team Model</p><p>34:21 – Brand Growth Basics</p><p>35:48 – GrowthDrive's Brand Story Evolution</p><p>36:30 – Strategic Capacity Category</p><p>37:45 – Culture Drives Brand</p><p>39:48 – StoryBrand &amp; the Rallying Cry</p><p>41:47 – Attracting A-Players</p><p>42:48 – Scaling Culture Principles</p><p>44:48 – Marketing Shift &amp; Referrals</p><p>47:23 – Human Moments in B2B</p><p>49:08 – Marketing Budgets &amp; AI</p><p>51:33 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>54:05 – Last Thing That Made You Laugh</p><p>58:44 – Legacy &amp; Closing</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.growth-drive.com/">GrowthDrive</a></li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/07l5dR5b">The Growth Driving Advisor: Proven Strategies for Leading Businesses from Stuck to Best in Class</a> by George Sandmann</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0iNxx4C6">Call Sign Chaos</a> by General Jim Mattis</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/00fLKe8F">Can I Borrow Your Car?</a> by Mike Garrison</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest threat to your clients' life work isn't a bad market — it's a business that simply won't survive due diligence?</p><p><br></p><p>George Sandmann, founder and CEO of GrowthDrive, has spent decades building companies, crashing a few into the side of the mountain, and coming out the other side with a clear-eyed mission: help financial advisors equip the private businesses they serve to grow, scale, and actually succeed at transition. George is an attorney, a data geek, a passionate entrepreneur — and a self-described addict when it comes to helping people win. In this conversation, we unpack the staggering statistics behind business exits, introduce the concept of "strategic capacity," and explore why community, culture, and human connection are the real engines behind GrowthDrive's growth.</p><p><br></p><p>Episode Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>19 out of 20 businesses do not qualify to successfully complete an M&amp;A transaction as currently run — and 75% of owners who do sell end up regretting it (per the Exit Planning Institute)</li><li>There is approximately $10 trillion worth of businesses that need to transition, but only $2 trillion in available capital — making it literally market-impossible for everyone to sell to a third party</li><li>George's "Clarity" technology platform helps business owners see exactly where they stand vs. best-in-class, and calculates a predicted transaction price — not just a value</li><li>Strategic capacity is the true north star: a business's ability to predictably and sustainably grow free cash flow</li><li>GrowthDrive operates as a "tiny giant" — just two core team members, with a dedicated offshore dev team and a self-sustaining advisor community that provides peer-to-peer support</li><li>Culture isn't ping pong tables and pizza Fridays — it's the outward manifestation of what a business actually believes and how it operates</li><li>Brand is the story. When that story is right, it doesn't just fix marketing — it rallies the team and transforms culture</li><li>AI is accelerating a hunger for human connection, which is a massive advantage for relational B2B service providers</li><li>GrowthDrive now grows almost entirely through referrals, having shifted away from traditional webinar and outbound marketing models</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Intro &amp; Meet George Sandmann</p><p>1:14 – Meet George Sandmann (pre-interview debrief with Holland)</p><p>4:38 – Human Opening Question</p><p>4:38 – From Law to Startups</p><p>5:30 – Mission &amp; Market Data</p><p>9:31 – Advisor Model Explained</p><p>9:51 – Entrepreneurial Addiction</p><p>11:41 – Community Builder Role</p><p>12:48 – Clarity Tech Platform</p><p>14:47 – Exit Planning Hard Truths</p><p>17:55 – Who Should Call GrowthDrive</p><p>21:27 – Client Relationship Story</p><p>25:10 – Scaling High Touch Service</p><p>31:26 – Tiny Giant Team Model</p><p>34:21 – Brand Growth Basics</p><p>35:48 – GrowthDrive's Brand Story Evolution</p><p>36:30 – Strategic Capacity Category</p><p>37:45 – Culture Drives Brand</p><p>39:48 – StoryBrand &amp; the Rallying Cry</p><p>41:47 – Attracting A-Players</p><p>42:48 – Scaling Culture Principles</p><p>44:48 – Marketing Shift &amp; Referrals</p><p>47:23 – Human Moments in B2B</p><p>49:08 – Marketing Budgets &amp; AI</p><p>51:33 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>54:05 – Last Thing That Made You Laugh</p><p>58:44 – Legacy &amp; Closing</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.growth-drive.com/">GrowthDrive</a></li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/07l5dR5b">The Growth Driving Advisor: Proven Strategies for Leading Businesses from Stuck to Best in Class</a> by George Sandmann</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0iNxx4C6">Call Sign Chaos</a> by General Jim Mattis</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/00fLKe8F">Can I Borrow Your Car?</a> by Mike Garrison</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Matt Wolfe</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest threat to your clients' life work isn't a bad market — it's a business that simply won't survive due diligence?</p><p><br></p><p>George Sandmann, founder and CEO of GrowthDrive, has spent decades building companies, crashing a few into the side of the mountain, and coming out the other side with a clear-eyed mission: help financial advisors equip the private businesses they serve to grow, scale, and actually succeed at transition. George is an attorney, a data geek, a passionate entrepreneur — and a self-described addict when it comes to helping people win. In this conversation, we unpack the staggering statistics behind business exits, introduce the concept of "strategic capacity," and explore why community, culture, and human connection are the real engines behind GrowthDrive's growth.</p><p><br></p><p>Episode Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>19 out of 20 businesses do not qualify to successfully complete an M&amp;A transaction as currently run — and 75% of owners who do sell end up regretting it (per the Exit Planning Institute)</li><li>There is approximately $10 trillion worth of businesses that need to transition, but only $2 trillion in available capital — making it literally market-impossible for everyone to sell to a third party</li><li>George's "Clarity" technology platform helps business owners see exactly where they stand vs. best-in-class, and calculates a predicted transaction price — not just a value</li><li>Strategic capacity is the true north star: a business's ability to predictably and sustainably grow free cash flow</li><li>GrowthDrive operates as a "tiny giant" — just two core team members, with a dedicated offshore dev team and a self-sustaining advisor community that provides peer-to-peer support</li><li>Culture isn't ping pong tables and pizza Fridays — it's the outward manifestation of what a business actually believes and how it operates</li><li>Brand is the story. When that story is right, it doesn't just fix marketing — it rallies the team and transforms culture</li><li>AI is accelerating a hunger for human connection, which is a massive advantage for relational B2B service providers</li><li>GrowthDrive now grows almost entirely through referrals, having shifted away from traditional webinar and outbound marketing models</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Intro &amp; Meet George Sandmann</p><p>1:14 – Meet George Sandmann (pre-interview debrief with Holland)</p><p>4:38 – Human Opening Question</p><p>4:38 – From Law to Startups</p><p>5:30 – Mission &amp; Market Data</p><p>9:31 – Advisor Model Explained</p><p>9:51 – Entrepreneurial Addiction</p><p>11:41 – Community Builder Role</p><p>12:48 – Clarity Tech Platform</p><p>14:47 – Exit Planning Hard Truths</p><p>17:55 – Who Should Call GrowthDrive</p><p>21:27 – Client Relationship Story</p><p>25:10 – Scaling High Touch Service</p><p>31:26 – Tiny Giant Team Model</p><p>34:21 – Brand Growth Basics</p><p>35:48 – GrowthDrive's Brand Story Evolution</p><p>36:30 – Strategic Capacity Category</p><p>37:45 – Culture Drives Brand</p><p>39:48 – StoryBrand &amp; the Rallying Cry</p><p>41:47 – Attracting A-Players</p><p>42:48 – Scaling Culture Principles</p><p>44:48 – Marketing Shift &amp; Referrals</p><p>47:23 – Human Moments in B2B</p><p>49:08 – Marketing Budgets &amp; AI</p><p>51:33 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>54:05 – Last Thing That Made You Laugh</p><p>58:44 – Legacy &amp; Closing</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.growth-drive.com/">GrowthDrive</a></li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/07l5dR5b">The Growth Driving Advisor: Proven Strategies for Leading Businesses from Stuck to Best in Class</a> by George Sandmann</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0iNxx4C6">Call Sign Chaos</a> by General Jim Mattis</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/00fLKe8F">Can I Borrow Your Car?</a> by Mike Garrison</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Preserving the Human Connection in Tech with Grant Eckstrom of Succurri</title>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When everything is moving towards automation and AI in tech, is the human connection even considered?</p><p><br></p><p>Grant Ekstrom, Managing Partner at Succurri Managed IT and Cybersecurity Services, has built a business around that exact question. An engineer by DNA and instinct, Grant co-founded Succurri with his brother — born from a conversation over a couple bottles of wine in Hawaii — and has since navigated the very real tensions of scaling a service business without losing the human core that makes it work. From referrals drying up post-COVID to learning a costly lesson about marketing the hard way, Grant gets refreshingly honest about where they've stumbled, what they've figured out, and why he still believes that face-to-face conversations over a drink will always outperform a Zoom call when it comes to building real trust.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Grant always wanted to be an electrical engineer — and unlike most, he actually ended up doing it. He traces that back to his grandfather, a structural engineer who taught at UCLA, and a childhood full of RadioShack kits and soldering burns on his desk.</li><li>Succurri was born out of a family conversation: Grant and his brother each had their own MSPs and their dad asked why they were solving the same problems separately. The answer became a company.</li><li>Grant and his brother are described as "yin and yang to the utmost extreme" — and that complementary partnership has been central to how Succurri has scaled.</li><li>On service: "It's about having honest conversations — getting to the truth whether they like it or not. It's almost like parenting."</li><li>Grant coined the term "impact zones" for those inflection points in growth where the team hits a wall and has to retool. He admits they still hit them — but get better at spotting them faster.</li><li>After COVID, referrals dried up — not because service had declined, but because the human interaction that fueled them had stopped. That wake-up call launched a serious sales and marketing overhaul.</li><li>The biggest marketing shift for Succurri: moving from talking about IT to talking about outcomes and business impact. When they stopped speaking engineer and started speaking to ownership-level concerns, things started to stick.</li><li>Grant pushed back on niche-only thinking: Succurri serves roughly nine industries and intentionally cross-pollinates solutions across them.</li><li>He's a proponent of bringing in outside help — both peer groups like Vistage and third-party marketing expertise — and he says the painful way he learned this should serve as a shortcut for others.</li><li>Matt introduced the StoryBrand Framework as the strategic lens Succurri has been applying: make the client the hero, not the company.</li><li>Grant is a believer in white-glove service to a fault — and says their low client churn is proof that honesty, even when uncomfortable, builds lasting trust.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Introduction</p><p>2:21 — Meet Grant Ekstrom</p><p>3:28 — Growing Up Engineer</p><p>4:32 — RadioShack Tinkering Days</p><p>6:23 — Succurri Origin Story</p><p>8:43 — Why MSPs Join Forces</p><p>10:26 — Family Partnership and Delegation</p><p>11:28 — Defining Service and Honesty</p><p>13:17 — Scaling Through Impact Zones</p><p>18:09 — Finding CEO Community Support</p><p>20:32 — Brand Story and Marketing Shift</p><p>24:54 — Niche Versus Broad</p><p>27:40 — Sell Outcomes Not Tech</p><p>28:35 — Human Trust Building</p><p>30:03 — Referrals Dried Up</p><p>33:05 — Finding Marketing Voice</p><p>34:58 — StoryBrand Perspective</p><p>38:00 — White Glove Service</p><p>40:09 — Hard Truth Conversations</p><p>43:03 — Behind The Brand</p><p>43:35 — Rapid Fire Answers</p><p>48:22 — Wrap Up &amp; Links</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://succurri.com/">Succurri Managed IT and Cybersecurity Services</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eosworldwide.com/">EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System)</a> — Referenced as a methodology Succurri has drawn from, though they have not formally implemented it</li><li><a href="https://www.vistage.com/">Vistage</a> — CEO peer group Grant has joined for outside perspective and community support</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When everything is moving towards automation and AI in tech, is the human connection even considered?</p><p><br></p><p>Grant Ekstrom, Managing Partner at Succurri Managed IT and Cybersecurity Services, has built a business around that exact question. An engineer by DNA and instinct, Grant co-founded Succurri with his brother — born from a conversation over a couple bottles of wine in Hawaii — and has since navigated the very real tensions of scaling a service business without losing the human core that makes it work. From referrals drying up post-COVID to learning a costly lesson about marketing the hard way, Grant gets refreshingly honest about where they've stumbled, what they've figured out, and why he still believes that face-to-face conversations over a drink will always outperform a Zoom call when it comes to building real trust.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Grant always wanted to be an electrical engineer — and unlike most, he actually ended up doing it. He traces that back to his grandfather, a structural engineer who taught at UCLA, and a childhood full of RadioShack kits and soldering burns on his desk.</li><li>Succurri was born out of a family conversation: Grant and his brother each had their own MSPs and their dad asked why they were solving the same problems separately. The answer became a company.</li><li>Grant and his brother are described as "yin and yang to the utmost extreme" — and that complementary partnership has been central to how Succurri has scaled.</li><li>On service: "It's about having honest conversations — getting to the truth whether they like it or not. It's almost like parenting."</li><li>Grant coined the term "impact zones" for those inflection points in growth where the team hits a wall and has to retool. He admits they still hit them — but get better at spotting them faster.</li><li>After COVID, referrals dried up — not because service had declined, but because the human interaction that fueled them had stopped. That wake-up call launched a serious sales and marketing overhaul.</li><li>The biggest marketing shift for Succurri: moving from talking about IT to talking about outcomes and business impact. When they stopped speaking engineer and started speaking to ownership-level concerns, things started to stick.</li><li>Grant pushed back on niche-only thinking: Succurri serves roughly nine industries and intentionally cross-pollinates solutions across them.</li><li>He's a proponent of bringing in outside help — both peer groups like Vistage and third-party marketing expertise — and he says the painful way he learned this should serve as a shortcut for others.</li><li>Matt introduced the StoryBrand Framework as the strategic lens Succurri has been applying: make the client the hero, not the company.</li><li>Grant is a believer in white-glove service to a fault — and says their low client churn is proof that honesty, even when uncomfortable, builds lasting trust.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Introduction</p><p>2:21 — Meet Grant Ekstrom</p><p>3:28 — Growing Up Engineer</p><p>4:32 — RadioShack Tinkering Days</p><p>6:23 — Succurri Origin Story</p><p>8:43 — Why MSPs Join Forces</p><p>10:26 — Family Partnership and Delegation</p><p>11:28 — Defining Service and Honesty</p><p>13:17 — Scaling Through Impact Zones</p><p>18:09 — Finding CEO Community Support</p><p>20:32 — Brand Story and Marketing Shift</p><p>24:54 — Niche Versus Broad</p><p>27:40 — Sell Outcomes Not Tech</p><p>28:35 — Human Trust Building</p><p>30:03 — Referrals Dried Up</p><p>33:05 — Finding Marketing Voice</p><p>34:58 — StoryBrand Perspective</p><p>38:00 — White Glove Service</p><p>40:09 — Hard Truth Conversations</p><p>43:03 — Behind The Brand</p><p>43:35 — Rapid Fire Answers</p><p>48:22 — Wrap Up &amp; Links</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://succurri.com/">Succurri Managed IT and Cybersecurity Services</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eosworldwide.com/">EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System)</a> — Referenced as a methodology Succurri has drawn from, though they have not formally implemented it</li><li><a href="https://www.vistage.com/">Vistage</a> — CEO peer group Grant has joined for outside perspective and community support</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Matt Wolfe</author>
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      <itunes:duration>3024</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When everything is moving towards automation and AI in tech, is the human connection even considered?</p><p><br></p><p>Grant Ekstrom, Managing Partner at Succurri Managed IT and Cybersecurity Services, has built a business around that exact question. An engineer by DNA and instinct, Grant co-founded Succurri with his brother — born from a conversation over a couple bottles of wine in Hawaii — and has since navigated the very real tensions of scaling a service business without losing the human core that makes it work. From referrals drying up post-COVID to learning a costly lesson about marketing the hard way, Grant gets refreshingly honest about where they've stumbled, what they've figured out, and why he still believes that face-to-face conversations over a drink will always outperform a Zoom call when it comes to building real trust.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Grant always wanted to be an electrical engineer — and unlike most, he actually ended up doing it. He traces that back to his grandfather, a structural engineer who taught at UCLA, and a childhood full of RadioShack kits and soldering burns on his desk.</li><li>Succurri was born out of a family conversation: Grant and his brother each had their own MSPs and their dad asked why they were solving the same problems separately. The answer became a company.</li><li>Grant and his brother are described as "yin and yang to the utmost extreme" — and that complementary partnership has been central to how Succurri has scaled.</li><li>On service: "It's about having honest conversations — getting to the truth whether they like it or not. It's almost like parenting."</li><li>Grant coined the term "impact zones" for those inflection points in growth where the team hits a wall and has to retool. He admits they still hit them — but get better at spotting them faster.</li><li>After COVID, referrals dried up — not because service had declined, but because the human interaction that fueled them had stopped. That wake-up call launched a serious sales and marketing overhaul.</li><li>The biggest marketing shift for Succurri: moving from talking about IT to talking about outcomes and business impact. When they stopped speaking engineer and started speaking to ownership-level concerns, things started to stick.</li><li>Grant pushed back on niche-only thinking: Succurri serves roughly nine industries and intentionally cross-pollinates solutions across them.</li><li>He's a proponent of bringing in outside help — both peer groups like Vistage and third-party marketing expertise — and he says the painful way he learned this should serve as a shortcut for others.</li><li>Matt introduced the StoryBrand Framework as the strategic lens Succurri has been applying: make the client the hero, not the company.</li><li>Grant is a believer in white-glove service to a fault — and says their low client churn is proof that honesty, even when uncomfortable, builds lasting trust.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Introduction</p><p>2:21 — Meet Grant Ekstrom</p><p>3:28 — Growing Up Engineer</p><p>4:32 — RadioShack Tinkering Days</p><p>6:23 — Succurri Origin Story</p><p>8:43 — Why MSPs Join Forces</p><p>10:26 — Family Partnership and Delegation</p><p>11:28 — Defining Service and Honesty</p><p>13:17 — Scaling Through Impact Zones</p><p>18:09 — Finding CEO Community Support</p><p>20:32 — Brand Story and Marketing Shift</p><p>24:54 — Niche Versus Broad</p><p>27:40 — Sell Outcomes Not Tech</p><p>28:35 — Human Trust Building</p><p>30:03 — Referrals Dried Up</p><p>33:05 — Finding Marketing Voice</p><p>34:58 — StoryBrand Perspective</p><p>38:00 — White Glove Service</p><p>40:09 — Hard Truth Conversations</p><p>43:03 — Behind The Brand</p><p>43:35 — Rapid Fire Answers</p><p>48:22 — Wrap Up &amp; Links</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://succurri.com/">Succurri Managed IT and Cybersecurity Services</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eosworldwide.com/">EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System)</a> — Referenced as a methodology Succurri has drawn from, though they have not formally implemented it</li><li><a href="https://www.vistage.com/">Vistage</a> — CEO peer group Grant has joined for outside perspective and community support</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Letting Our Customers Lead the Way with Adam Pattisall</title>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Letting Our Customers Lead the Way with Adam Pattisall</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it look like when customers are the ones driving your growth — not the other way around? That's exactly the story Adam Pattisall, CEO of IncrediTek and iTekFED, brings to this episode of CEO's Heart for Service.</p><p><br></p><p>Adam built IncrediTech from literally one person working out of the bed of a pickup truck to a company of 80+ people — without investors, a board, or outside backing. His secret? Stay nimble, only take on what you can afford to lose, and let the customer set the direction. From keeping a Coast Guard station online during Hurricane Sandy to having clients ask him to grow so they wouldn't lose him, Adam's story is a masterclass in customer-first, integrity-driven growth in the telecommunications and IT infrastructure space.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Adam started IncrediTek working alone out of the bed of his pickup truck, with a spool of cable and a clear vision: build something you own, without owing anyone</li><li>The company originally planned to cap at 11 employees — customers are the reason it grew to 80+</li><li>IncrediTek has been 100% bootstrapped since day one — no investors, no board, no bank reporting</li><li>For 15–16 years, nearly 99% of revenue came from a single customer, and that customer kept asking them to grow and diversify</li><li>The Hurricane Sandy story: an IncrediTek team member, Rick Zimmerman, went by boat to a flooded island to keep a Coast Guard station's communications alive — and won a major Verizon award for it</li><li>Exceptional service means anticipating client needs before the crisis hits, not just reacting to it</li><li>Hiring isn't about technical knowledge — it's about finding people who have a passion for solving problems</li><li>Adam's business philosophy: "I don't get involved in anything I can't afford to lose"</li><li>Staying ahead of technology by 18–24 months is what keeps IncrediTek in demand — they go wherever the "bleeding edge" work is</li><li>The future of the company? Wherever the customers want it to go</li></ul><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>1:03 – Growing Up Dreams</p><p>2:31 – Early Hustle Mindset</p><p>3:35 – Sarah's First Job</p><p>4:05 – What IncrediTek Does</p><p>5:35 – Why Start IncrediTek</p><p>6:11 – Heart for Service</p><p>7:29 – Hurricane Sandy Story</p><p>8:20 – Scaling with Values</p><p>9:10 – Bootstrapped Growth Rules</p><p>11:40 – Customers Drove Expansion</p><p>13:50 – Passing Culture to Team</p><p>14:30 – Hiring Problem Solvers</p><p>16:20 – Customer First Choice</p><p>18:00 – Truth Telling Sales</p><p>19:15 – Brand Story Strategy</p><p>21:30 – Experience Over Marketing</p><p>24:10 – Staying Ahead of Tech</p><p>25:45 – Owning the Narrative</p><p>29:00 – Handling Spilled Milk</p><p>31:00 – Tech Change Surprise</p><p>33:15 – Future Led by Clients</p><p>36:00 – Vision Through Action</p><p>39:00 – Behind the Brand</p><p>40:00 – Rapid Fire Questions</p><p>46:50 – Success and Gratitude</p><p>49:15 – Where to Find Them</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES MENTIONED</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.increditek.com/">IncrediTek</a> — Adam Pattisall's IT infrastructure company</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it look like when customers are the ones driving your growth — not the other way around? That's exactly the story Adam Pattisall, CEO of IncrediTek and iTekFED, brings to this episode of CEO's Heart for Service.</p><p><br></p><p>Adam built IncrediTech from literally one person working out of the bed of a pickup truck to a company of 80+ people — without investors, a board, or outside backing. His secret? Stay nimble, only take on what you can afford to lose, and let the customer set the direction. From keeping a Coast Guard station online during Hurricane Sandy to having clients ask him to grow so they wouldn't lose him, Adam's story is a masterclass in customer-first, integrity-driven growth in the telecommunications and IT infrastructure space.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Adam started IncrediTek working alone out of the bed of his pickup truck, with a spool of cable and a clear vision: build something you own, without owing anyone</li><li>The company originally planned to cap at 11 employees — customers are the reason it grew to 80+</li><li>IncrediTek has been 100% bootstrapped since day one — no investors, no board, no bank reporting</li><li>For 15–16 years, nearly 99% of revenue came from a single customer, and that customer kept asking them to grow and diversify</li><li>The Hurricane Sandy story: an IncrediTek team member, Rick Zimmerman, went by boat to a flooded island to keep a Coast Guard station's communications alive — and won a major Verizon award for it</li><li>Exceptional service means anticipating client needs before the crisis hits, not just reacting to it</li><li>Hiring isn't about technical knowledge — it's about finding people who have a passion for solving problems</li><li>Adam's business philosophy: "I don't get involved in anything I can't afford to lose"</li><li>Staying ahead of technology by 18–24 months is what keeps IncrediTek in demand — they go wherever the "bleeding edge" work is</li><li>The future of the company? Wherever the customers want it to go</li></ul><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>1:03 – Growing Up Dreams</p><p>2:31 – Early Hustle Mindset</p><p>3:35 – Sarah's First Job</p><p>4:05 – What IncrediTek Does</p><p>5:35 – Why Start IncrediTek</p><p>6:11 – Heart for Service</p><p>7:29 – Hurricane Sandy Story</p><p>8:20 – Scaling with Values</p><p>9:10 – Bootstrapped Growth Rules</p><p>11:40 – Customers Drove Expansion</p><p>13:50 – Passing Culture to Team</p><p>14:30 – Hiring Problem Solvers</p><p>16:20 – Customer First Choice</p><p>18:00 – Truth Telling Sales</p><p>19:15 – Brand Story Strategy</p><p>21:30 – Experience Over Marketing</p><p>24:10 – Staying Ahead of Tech</p><p>25:45 – Owning the Narrative</p><p>29:00 – Handling Spilled Milk</p><p>31:00 – Tech Change Surprise</p><p>33:15 – Future Led by Clients</p><p>36:00 – Vision Through Action</p><p>39:00 – Behind the Brand</p><p>40:00 – Rapid Fire Questions</p><p>46:50 – Success and Gratitude</p><p>49:15 – Where to Find Them</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES MENTIONED</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.increditek.com/">IncrediTek</a> — Adam Pattisall's IT infrastructure company</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Matt Wolfe</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it look like when customers are the ones driving your growth — not the other way around? That's exactly the story Adam Pattisall, CEO of IncrediTek and iTekFED, brings to this episode of CEO's Heart for Service.</p><p><br></p><p>Adam built IncrediTech from literally one person working out of the bed of a pickup truck to a company of 80+ people — without investors, a board, or outside backing. His secret? Stay nimble, only take on what you can afford to lose, and let the customer set the direction. From keeping a Coast Guard station online during Hurricane Sandy to having clients ask him to grow so they wouldn't lose him, Adam's story is a masterclass in customer-first, integrity-driven growth in the telecommunications and IT infrastructure space.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Adam started IncrediTek working alone out of the bed of his pickup truck, with a spool of cable and a clear vision: build something you own, without owing anyone</li><li>The company originally planned to cap at 11 employees — customers are the reason it grew to 80+</li><li>IncrediTek has been 100% bootstrapped since day one — no investors, no board, no bank reporting</li><li>For 15–16 years, nearly 99% of revenue came from a single customer, and that customer kept asking them to grow and diversify</li><li>The Hurricane Sandy story: an IncrediTek team member, Rick Zimmerman, went by boat to a flooded island to keep a Coast Guard station's communications alive — and won a major Verizon award for it</li><li>Exceptional service means anticipating client needs before the crisis hits, not just reacting to it</li><li>Hiring isn't about technical knowledge — it's about finding people who have a passion for solving problems</li><li>Adam's business philosophy: "I don't get involved in anything I can't afford to lose"</li><li>Staying ahead of technology by 18–24 months is what keeps IncrediTek in demand — they go wherever the "bleeding edge" work is</li><li>The future of the company? Wherever the customers want it to go</li></ul><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>1:03 – Growing Up Dreams</p><p>2:31 – Early Hustle Mindset</p><p>3:35 – Sarah's First Job</p><p>4:05 – What IncrediTek Does</p><p>5:35 – Why Start IncrediTek</p><p>6:11 – Heart for Service</p><p>7:29 – Hurricane Sandy Story</p><p>8:20 – Scaling with Values</p><p>9:10 – Bootstrapped Growth Rules</p><p>11:40 – Customers Drove Expansion</p><p>13:50 – Passing Culture to Team</p><p>14:30 – Hiring Problem Solvers</p><p>16:20 – Customer First Choice</p><p>18:00 – Truth Telling Sales</p><p>19:15 – Brand Story Strategy</p><p>21:30 – Experience Over Marketing</p><p>24:10 – Staying Ahead of Tech</p><p>25:45 – Owning the Narrative</p><p>29:00 – Handling Spilled Milk</p><p>31:00 – Tech Change Surprise</p><p>33:15 – Future Led by Clients</p><p>36:00 – Vision Through Action</p><p>39:00 – Behind the Brand</p><p>40:00 – Rapid Fire Questions</p><p>46:50 – Success and Gratitude</p><p>49:15 – Where to Find Them</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES MENTIONED</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.increditek.com/">IncrediTek</a> — Adam Pattisall's IT infrastructure company</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>The Power of Authentic Resonance in Business Growth with Macy Robison</title>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the reason your thought leadership isn't landing has nothing to do with your ideas — and everything to do with the way you're wired to share them?</p><p><br></p><p>Macy Robison, founder of the Resonant Thought Leader Conservatory, has spent years behind the scenes launching New York Times bestsellers, building massive platforms for other thought leaders, and serving as senior director of StoryBrand's certification program. But somewhere along the way, she kept hitting the same wall — brilliant experts stuck not because they lacked ideas, but because they were forcing themselves through someone else's playbook.</p><p><br></p><p>What she built to solve that problem is unlike anything else out there. Rooted in the science of sound and resonance, her proprietary Resonance Compass framework starts with a free diagnostic — the Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment — to pinpoint exactly how you are wired to communicate, lead, and build. From there, it becomes about amplification, not volume. About sending a clearer signal, not shouting louder. The difference, as she explains it, is the same difference between pushing a random piano key and the one that makes a snare drum vibrate across the room.</p><p><br></p><p>We talk about the journey of creating a brand new framework from scratch, the challenge of scaling something deeply personal, and how she stays grounded in her own voice even when comparison tries to throw her off. If you're a B2B founder who knows you have something valuable to say but can't figure out how to say it in a way that sounds like you, this conversation is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Macy shares the personal frustration that sparked the creation of the Resonance Compass — and why copying other people's strategies kept failing her</li><li>The piano-and-snare-drum illustration that explains why resonance is measurable, not subjective</li><li>Why the answer isn't getting louder — it's sending a cleaner signal to the right people</li><li>How the Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment works, the 10 archetypes explained, and what Matt discovered about himself when he took it</li><li>The difference between being expression-led, experience-led, insight-led, and embodiment-led as a thought leader</li><li>The voice lesson moment that revealed a three-step framework hiding inside her own client work</li><li>Why she started by personally sending Loom videos to every single assessment taker — and what that taught her before she could scale</li><li>The Taylor Swift and Chappell Roan examples that show how staying unapologetically yourself is the actual amplification strategy</li><li>The hardest part of growing: comparison, and how a theater audition story reframes it completely</li><li>Macy's definition of success — and the school benefit concert that still runs without her</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Special Episode Intro</p><p>1:19 — Why Authenticity Matters</p><p>3:16 — Meet Macy Robison</p><p>3:25 — StoryBrand and Theater Roots</p><p>5:36 — Macy Bio and Big Promise</p><p>7:50 — The Aha Behind Resonance</p><p>12:37 — Why This Was Missing</p><p>16:19 — How the Assessment Works</p><p>20:24 — Finding Your Voice in Practice</p><p>24:30 — The 10 Archetypes Explained</p><p>29:03 — Scaling a New Service</p><p>32:05 — Amplify Without Getting Loud</p><p>33:25 — Sound Design for Your Message</p><p>35:25 — Artists Who Scale Authentically</p><p>35:19 — Trust and Humanity in B2B</p><p>36:31 — Unearthing Your Hidden IP</p><p>38:14 — From Patterns to a Framework</p><p>39:58 — Simple Reps Before Scaling</p><p>41:24 — Staying Grounded Amid Comparison</p><p>44:13 — Behind the Brand Rapid Fire</p><p>48:57 — Defining Success and Lasting Impact</p><p>51:29 — Closing Thanks and Where to Find Her</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://macyrobison.com/">Resonant Thought Leader Conservatory</a></li><li>Own Your Impact Podcast on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/own-your-impact/id1807445068">Apple</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0W1caAtNj7ZFFeEw6KkR11">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://assessment.thoughtleaderarchetype.com/">Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the reason your thought leadership isn't landing has nothing to do with your ideas — and everything to do with the way you're wired to share them?</p><p><br></p><p>Macy Robison, founder of the Resonant Thought Leader Conservatory, has spent years behind the scenes launching New York Times bestsellers, building massive platforms for other thought leaders, and serving as senior director of StoryBrand's certification program. But somewhere along the way, she kept hitting the same wall — brilliant experts stuck not because they lacked ideas, but because they were forcing themselves through someone else's playbook.</p><p><br></p><p>What she built to solve that problem is unlike anything else out there. Rooted in the science of sound and resonance, her proprietary Resonance Compass framework starts with a free diagnostic — the Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment — to pinpoint exactly how you are wired to communicate, lead, and build. From there, it becomes about amplification, not volume. About sending a clearer signal, not shouting louder. The difference, as she explains it, is the same difference between pushing a random piano key and the one that makes a snare drum vibrate across the room.</p><p><br></p><p>We talk about the journey of creating a brand new framework from scratch, the challenge of scaling something deeply personal, and how she stays grounded in her own voice even when comparison tries to throw her off. If you're a B2B founder who knows you have something valuable to say but can't figure out how to say it in a way that sounds like you, this conversation is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Macy shares the personal frustration that sparked the creation of the Resonance Compass — and why copying other people's strategies kept failing her</li><li>The piano-and-snare-drum illustration that explains why resonance is measurable, not subjective</li><li>Why the answer isn't getting louder — it's sending a cleaner signal to the right people</li><li>How the Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment works, the 10 archetypes explained, and what Matt discovered about himself when he took it</li><li>The difference between being expression-led, experience-led, insight-led, and embodiment-led as a thought leader</li><li>The voice lesson moment that revealed a three-step framework hiding inside her own client work</li><li>Why she started by personally sending Loom videos to every single assessment taker — and what that taught her before she could scale</li><li>The Taylor Swift and Chappell Roan examples that show how staying unapologetically yourself is the actual amplification strategy</li><li>The hardest part of growing: comparison, and how a theater audition story reframes it completely</li><li>Macy's definition of success — and the school benefit concert that still runs without her</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Special Episode Intro</p><p>1:19 — Why Authenticity Matters</p><p>3:16 — Meet Macy Robison</p><p>3:25 — StoryBrand and Theater Roots</p><p>5:36 — Macy Bio and Big Promise</p><p>7:50 — The Aha Behind Resonance</p><p>12:37 — Why This Was Missing</p><p>16:19 — How the Assessment Works</p><p>20:24 — Finding Your Voice in Practice</p><p>24:30 — The 10 Archetypes Explained</p><p>29:03 — Scaling a New Service</p><p>32:05 — Amplify Without Getting Loud</p><p>33:25 — Sound Design for Your Message</p><p>35:25 — Artists Who Scale Authentically</p><p>35:19 — Trust and Humanity in B2B</p><p>36:31 — Unearthing Your Hidden IP</p><p>38:14 — From Patterns to a Framework</p><p>39:58 — Simple Reps Before Scaling</p><p>41:24 — Staying Grounded Amid Comparison</p><p>44:13 — Behind the Brand Rapid Fire</p><p>48:57 — Defining Success and Lasting Impact</p><p>51:29 — Closing Thanks and Where to Find Her</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://macyrobison.com/">Resonant Thought Leader Conservatory</a></li><li>Own Your Impact Podcast on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/own-your-impact/id1807445068">Apple</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0W1caAtNj7ZFFeEw6KkR11">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://assessment.thoughtleaderarchetype.com/">Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the reason your thought leadership isn't landing has nothing to do with your ideas — and everything to do with the way you're wired to share them?</p><p><br></p><p>Macy Robison, founder of the Resonant Thought Leader Conservatory, has spent years behind the scenes launching New York Times bestsellers, building massive platforms for other thought leaders, and serving as senior director of StoryBrand's certification program. But somewhere along the way, she kept hitting the same wall — brilliant experts stuck not because they lacked ideas, but because they were forcing themselves through someone else's playbook.</p><p><br></p><p>What she built to solve that problem is unlike anything else out there. Rooted in the science of sound and resonance, her proprietary Resonance Compass framework starts with a free diagnostic — the Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment — to pinpoint exactly how you are wired to communicate, lead, and build. From there, it becomes about amplification, not volume. About sending a clearer signal, not shouting louder. The difference, as she explains it, is the same difference between pushing a random piano key and the one that makes a snare drum vibrate across the room.</p><p><br></p><p>We talk about the journey of creating a brand new framework from scratch, the challenge of scaling something deeply personal, and how she stays grounded in her own voice even when comparison tries to throw her off. If you're a B2B founder who knows you have something valuable to say but can't figure out how to say it in a way that sounds like you, this conversation is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Macy shares the personal frustration that sparked the creation of the Resonance Compass — and why copying other people's strategies kept failing her</li><li>The piano-and-snare-drum illustration that explains why resonance is measurable, not subjective</li><li>Why the answer isn't getting louder — it's sending a cleaner signal to the right people</li><li>How the Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment works, the 10 archetypes explained, and what Matt discovered about himself when he took it</li><li>The difference between being expression-led, experience-led, insight-led, and embodiment-led as a thought leader</li><li>The voice lesson moment that revealed a three-step framework hiding inside her own client work</li><li>Why she started by personally sending Loom videos to every single assessment taker — and what that taught her before she could scale</li><li>The Taylor Swift and Chappell Roan examples that show how staying unapologetically yourself is the actual amplification strategy</li><li>The hardest part of growing: comparison, and how a theater audition story reframes it completely</li><li>Macy's definition of success — and the school benefit concert that still runs without her</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Special Episode Intro</p><p>1:19 — Why Authenticity Matters</p><p>3:16 — Meet Macy Robison</p><p>3:25 — StoryBrand and Theater Roots</p><p>5:36 — Macy Bio and Big Promise</p><p>7:50 — The Aha Behind Resonance</p><p>12:37 — Why This Was Missing</p><p>16:19 — How the Assessment Works</p><p>20:24 — Finding Your Voice in Practice</p><p>24:30 — The 10 Archetypes Explained</p><p>29:03 — Scaling a New Service</p><p>32:05 — Amplify Without Getting Loud</p><p>33:25 — Sound Design for Your Message</p><p>35:25 — Artists Who Scale Authentically</p><p>35:19 — Trust and Humanity in B2B</p><p>36:31 — Unearthing Your Hidden IP</p><p>38:14 — From Patterns to a Framework</p><p>39:58 — Simple Reps Before Scaling</p><p>41:24 — Staying Grounded Amid Comparison</p><p>44:13 — Behind the Brand Rapid Fire</p><p>48:57 — Defining Success and Lasting Impact</p><p>51:29 — Closing Thanks and Where to Find Her</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li><a href="https://macyrobison.com/">Resonant Thought Leader Conservatory</a></li><li>Own Your Impact Podcast on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/own-your-impact/id1807445068">Apple</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0W1caAtNj7ZFFeEw6KkR11">Spotify</a></li><li><a href="https://assessment.thoughtleaderarchetype.com/">Resonant Thought Leader Archetype Assessment</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it actually take to build a thriving chamber of commerce from absolute zero — no staff, no members, not even a pad of paper — in under 18 months? Wendy Poischbeg did exactly that, scaling the Greater Everett Chamber of Commerce to 300 members in a year and a half by doing something deceptively simple: listening.</p><p><br></p><p>Wendy, CEO of the Greater Everett Chamber, joins co-hosts Matt Wolfe and Sarah Pattisall of Brand3 to share how she resurrected a chamber that had been missing from Everett for 15 years — and why she built it completely differently this time. From curating member experiences inspired by the book Unreasonable Hospitality, to deploying AI to run lean, to quietly supporting Everett's Hispanic business community during a turbulent political climate, Wendy reveals what it looks like to lead with heart, hustle, and a hype-person mentality.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Wendy path to become a rock star — and trained in a prestigious Seattle girl choir before reality (and Boeing) intervened</li><li>The Greater Everett Chamber launched January 1, 2025, starting from absolute ground zero — no assets, no EIN, not even office supplies</li><li>300 members in 18 months, 55+ events in year one, on track for 80 events in year two</li><li>The chamber was rebuilt intentionally as "not your grandpa's chamber" — with AI tools, streamlined automation, and yes, a DJ at events</li><li>Wendy drew leadership inspiration from Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara, applying fine-dining service principles to chamber membership</li><li>Member feedback drives everything: surveys, CRM-tracked pain points, and in-person business visits shape every program and workshop</li><li>Permitting is the #1 barrier to business growth in Everett — the chamber is actively advocating for AI-assisted permitting reform at the state level</li><li>The ambassador program launched 6 months ahead of schedule when membership hit 150 — volunteers are rewarded, never charged</li><li>AI tools (ChatGPT, Claude) helped Wendy accomplish in one week what used to take a month, from nonprofit filing to contract drafting</li><li>The chamber does quiet, behind-the-scenes work to support Everett's Hispanic business community, including a private health district licensing event to help food cart operators get licensed safely</li><li>Wendy's personal "why" (discovered through Simon Sinek's framework): amplifying and promoting others is what makes her thrive</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:31 — Welcome &amp; Episode Preview</p><p>2:12 — Meet Wendy Poischbeg</p><p>3:31 — From Aspiring Rock Star to Chamber CEO</p><p>6:14 — The History Behind the Greater Everett Chamber</p><p>9:56 — Unreasonable Hospitality &amp; the Member Experience Philosophy</p><p>12:29 — Curating Experiences, Not Just Events</p><p>13:58 — How Wendy Gathers &amp; Acts on Member Feedback</p><p>17:34 — Advocacy: The Chamber as a Policy Voice</p><p>19:53 — Growth by the Numbers: 300 Members in 18 Months</p><p>22:15 — The Chamber's Four Pillars</p><p>25:05 — Everett's Transformation: The Marina &amp; South Everett</p><p>27:31 — Scaling Without Losing the Human Touch</p><p>28:51 — Challenges of Rapid Growth &amp; the Ambassador Program</p><p>31:45 — How AI Is Running the Chamber (And Disrupting the Legal Industry)</p><p>33:47 — Supporting Everett's Hispanic Business Community</p><p>37:42 — Creativity as a Business Strategy (FIFA 2026 &amp; Beyond)</p><p>40:30 — Wendy's Coffee Shop Origin Story</p><p>42:49 — The Story the Chamber Tells: Be Engaged to Get Value</p><p>47:57 — The Heart Behind the Hype Person: Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</p><p>54:39 — Wendy's "Why" (Simon Sinek &amp; the Two-Hour Couch Conversation)</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Greater Everett Chamber of Commerce —<a href="https://www.everettchamber.org/"> everettchamber.org</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unreasonablehospitality.com/">Unreasonable Hospitality</a> by Will Guidara</li><li><a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/start-with-why">Start With Why</a> by Simon Sinek</li><li><a href="https://www.economicalliancesc.org/">Economic Alliance Snohomish County</a> — regional economic development organization that preceded and now complements the chamber</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it actually take to build a thriving chamber of commerce from absolute zero — no staff, no members, not even a pad of paper — in under 18 months? Wendy Poischbeg did exactly that, scaling the Greater Everett Chamber of Commerce to 300 members in a year and a half by doing something deceptively simple: listening.</p><p><br></p><p>Wendy, CEO of the Greater Everett Chamber, joins co-hosts Matt Wolfe and Sarah Pattisall of Brand3 to share how she resurrected a chamber that had been missing from Everett for 15 years — and why she built it completely differently this time. From curating member experiences inspired by the book Unreasonable Hospitality, to deploying AI to run lean, to quietly supporting Everett's Hispanic business community during a turbulent political climate, Wendy reveals what it looks like to lead with heart, hustle, and a hype-person mentality.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Wendy path to become a rock star — and trained in a prestigious Seattle girl choir before reality (and Boeing) intervened</li><li>The Greater Everett Chamber launched January 1, 2025, starting from absolute ground zero — no assets, no EIN, not even office supplies</li><li>300 members in 18 months, 55+ events in year one, on track for 80 events in year two</li><li>The chamber was rebuilt intentionally as "not your grandpa's chamber" — with AI tools, streamlined automation, and yes, a DJ at events</li><li>Wendy drew leadership inspiration from Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara, applying fine-dining service principles to chamber membership</li><li>Member feedback drives everything: surveys, CRM-tracked pain points, and in-person business visits shape every program and workshop</li><li>Permitting is the #1 barrier to business growth in Everett — the chamber is actively advocating for AI-assisted permitting reform at the state level</li><li>The ambassador program launched 6 months ahead of schedule when membership hit 150 — volunteers are rewarded, never charged</li><li>AI tools (ChatGPT, Claude) helped Wendy accomplish in one week what used to take a month, from nonprofit filing to contract drafting</li><li>The chamber does quiet, behind-the-scenes work to support Everett's Hispanic business community, including a private health district licensing event to help food cart operators get licensed safely</li><li>Wendy's personal "why" (discovered through Simon Sinek's framework): amplifying and promoting others is what makes her thrive</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:31 — Welcome &amp; Episode Preview</p><p>2:12 — Meet Wendy Poischbeg</p><p>3:31 — From Aspiring Rock Star to Chamber CEO</p><p>6:14 — The History Behind the Greater Everett Chamber</p><p>9:56 — Unreasonable Hospitality &amp; the Member Experience Philosophy</p><p>12:29 — Curating Experiences, Not Just Events</p><p>13:58 — How Wendy Gathers &amp; Acts on Member Feedback</p><p>17:34 — Advocacy: The Chamber as a Policy Voice</p><p>19:53 — Growth by the Numbers: 300 Members in 18 Months</p><p>22:15 — The Chamber's Four Pillars</p><p>25:05 — Everett's Transformation: The Marina &amp; South Everett</p><p>27:31 — Scaling Without Losing the Human Touch</p><p>28:51 — Challenges of Rapid Growth &amp; the Ambassador Program</p><p>31:45 — How AI Is Running the Chamber (And Disrupting the Legal Industry)</p><p>33:47 — Supporting Everett's Hispanic Business Community</p><p>37:42 — Creativity as a Business Strategy (FIFA 2026 &amp; Beyond)</p><p>40:30 — Wendy's Coffee Shop Origin Story</p><p>42:49 — The Story the Chamber Tells: Be Engaged to Get Value</p><p>47:57 — The Heart Behind the Hype Person: Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</p><p>54:39 — Wendy's "Why" (Simon Sinek &amp; the Two-Hour Couch Conversation)</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Greater Everett Chamber of Commerce —<a href="https://www.everettchamber.org/"> everettchamber.org</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unreasonablehospitality.com/">Unreasonable Hospitality</a> by Will Guidara</li><li><a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/start-with-why">Start With Why</a> by Simon Sinek</li><li><a href="https://www.economicalliancesc.org/">Economic Alliance Snohomish County</a> — regional economic development organization that preceded and now complements the chamber</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it actually take to build a thriving chamber of commerce from absolute zero — no staff, no members, not even a pad of paper — in under 18 months? Wendy Poischbeg did exactly that, scaling the Greater Everett Chamber of Commerce to 300 members in a year and a half by doing something deceptively simple: listening.</p><p><br></p><p>Wendy, CEO of the Greater Everett Chamber, joins co-hosts Matt Wolfe and Sarah Pattisall of Brand3 to share how she resurrected a chamber that had been missing from Everett for 15 years — and why she built it completely differently this time. From curating member experiences inspired by the book Unreasonable Hospitality, to deploying AI to run lean, to quietly supporting Everett's Hispanic business community during a turbulent political climate, Wendy reveals what it looks like to lead with heart, hustle, and a hype-person mentality.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Wendy path to become a rock star — and trained in a prestigious Seattle girl choir before reality (and Boeing) intervened</li><li>The Greater Everett Chamber launched January 1, 2025, starting from absolute ground zero — no assets, no EIN, not even office supplies</li><li>300 members in 18 months, 55+ events in year one, on track for 80 events in year two</li><li>The chamber was rebuilt intentionally as "not your grandpa's chamber" — with AI tools, streamlined automation, and yes, a DJ at events</li><li>Wendy drew leadership inspiration from Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara, applying fine-dining service principles to chamber membership</li><li>Member feedback drives everything: surveys, CRM-tracked pain points, and in-person business visits shape every program and workshop</li><li>Permitting is the #1 barrier to business growth in Everett — the chamber is actively advocating for AI-assisted permitting reform at the state level</li><li>The ambassador program launched 6 months ahead of schedule when membership hit 150 — volunteers are rewarded, never charged</li><li>AI tools (ChatGPT, Claude) helped Wendy accomplish in one week what used to take a month, from nonprofit filing to contract drafting</li><li>The chamber does quiet, behind-the-scenes work to support Everett's Hispanic business community, including a private health district licensing event to help food cart operators get licensed safely</li><li>Wendy's personal "why" (discovered through Simon Sinek's framework): amplifying and promoting others is what makes her thrive</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:31 — Welcome &amp; Episode Preview</p><p>2:12 — Meet Wendy Poischbeg</p><p>3:31 — From Aspiring Rock Star to Chamber CEO</p><p>6:14 — The History Behind the Greater Everett Chamber</p><p>9:56 — Unreasonable Hospitality &amp; the Member Experience Philosophy</p><p>12:29 — Curating Experiences, Not Just Events</p><p>13:58 — How Wendy Gathers &amp; Acts on Member Feedback</p><p>17:34 — Advocacy: The Chamber as a Policy Voice</p><p>19:53 — Growth by the Numbers: 300 Members in 18 Months</p><p>22:15 — The Chamber's Four Pillars</p><p>25:05 — Everett's Transformation: The Marina &amp; South Everett</p><p>27:31 — Scaling Without Losing the Human Touch</p><p>28:51 — Challenges of Rapid Growth &amp; the Ambassador Program</p><p>31:45 — How AI Is Running the Chamber (And Disrupting the Legal Industry)</p><p>33:47 — Supporting Everett's Hispanic Business Community</p><p>37:42 — Creativity as a Business Strategy (FIFA 2026 &amp; Beyond)</p><p>40:30 — Wendy's Coffee Shop Origin Story</p><p>42:49 — The Story the Chamber Tells: Be Engaged to Get Value</p><p>47:57 — The Heart Behind the Hype Person: Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</p><p>54:39 — Wendy's "Why" (Simon Sinek &amp; the Two-Hour Couch Conversation)</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Greater Everett Chamber of Commerce —<a href="https://www.everettchamber.org/"> everettchamber.org</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unreasonablehospitality.com/">Unreasonable Hospitality</a> by Will Guidara</li><li><a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/start-with-why">Start With Why</a> by Simon Sinek</li><li><a href="https://www.economicalliancesc.org/">Economic Alliance Snohomish County</a> — regional economic development organization that preceded and now complements the chamber</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Scaling Through Core Values with Orsi Herbein | The Brand3 Journey</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when a business built on genuine relationships tries to grow — and nearly loses everything that made it special in the process? That's the honest, behind-the-scenes story we're unpacking today with Brand3 founder and President Orsi Herbein. Orsi shares the real lessons from 10 years of building a branding and marketing agency, including a painful season of chasing the wrong definition of success, why hastily delegating client relationships almost cost the company, and how getting clear on your own definition of success changes everything. If you lead a service-based business and feel the pull between growth and staying true to what matters most, this one is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>What "CEO's heart for service" actually means — and why it's the lens Brand3 uses to choose who they work with</li><li>Why branding done right is simply the truth about your business</li><li>The real reason service-based B2B businesses struggle to define themselves (hint: you're too close to your own stuff)</li><li>How Brand3 helped a client achieve an extraordinary EBITDA multiplier in a private equity exit — by giving them the confidence to stand their ground</li><li>The PCS Technology story: how a heart-shaped logo became an internal emoji and the whole team started to "catch the vision"</li><li>Orsi's honest account of a season when growth goals overrode core values — and what that cost</li><li>Why hastily delegating client relationships in a relational business is a recipe for trouble</li><li>How to brag about your clients instead of yourself (and why that's the most authentic marketing a service provider can do)</li><li>The Brand3 core values: Difference Makers, True to Self, Creative Thinkers, Clarity Seekers, Collaborators, and Adaptive Advocates</li><li>Your definition of success doesn't have to look like anyone else's</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:14 – Meet the Hosts</p><p>2:26 – Welcome Orsi &amp; Brand3</p><p>2:37 – What Brand3 Does</p><p>4:12 – Heart for Service Defined</p><p>7:03 – Redefining Client Success</p><p>9:11 – Impact Stories &amp; Wins</p><p>13:38 – Branding as Truth</p><p>16:27 – Scaling Without Losing Values</p><p>17:15 – Brand3 Core Values</p><p>18:26 – Origins as a Design Shop</p><p>21:34 – Branding Beyond Marketing</p><p>23:34 – Values Mirror the Founder</p><p>26:01 – Core Values in Action</p><p>26:58 – Scaling Slippery Slopes</p><p>31:11 – Redefining Success Metrics</p><p>35:14 – Helping People Who Help</p><p>36:23 – Brand Strategy Rapid Fire</p><p>37:16 – Marketing Goes Relational</p><p>38:36 – Sales Truth Telling</p><p>40:12 – Client Experience by Design</p><p>41:38 – Client Highlights, Not Bragging</p><p>43:18 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>46:48 – Closing Thanks &amp; Where to Find Us</p><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when a business built on genuine relationships tries to grow — and nearly loses everything that made it special in the process? That's the honest, behind-the-scenes story we're unpacking today with Brand3 founder and President Orsi Herbein. Orsi shares the real lessons from 10 years of building a branding and marketing agency, including a painful season of chasing the wrong definition of success, why hastily delegating client relationships almost cost the company, and how getting clear on your own definition of success changes everything. If you lead a service-based business and feel the pull between growth and staying true to what matters most, this one is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>What "CEO's heart for service" actually means — and why it's the lens Brand3 uses to choose who they work with</li><li>Why branding done right is simply the truth about your business</li><li>The real reason service-based B2B businesses struggle to define themselves (hint: you're too close to your own stuff)</li><li>How Brand3 helped a client achieve an extraordinary EBITDA multiplier in a private equity exit — by giving them the confidence to stand their ground</li><li>The PCS Technology story: how a heart-shaped logo became an internal emoji and the whole team started to "catch the vision"</li><li>Orsi's honest account of a season when growth goals overrode core values — and what that cost</li><li>Why hastily delegating client relationships in a relational business is a recipe for trouble</li><li>How to brag about your clients instead of yourself (and why that's the most authentic marketing a service provider can do)</li><li>The Brand3 core values: Difference Makers, True to Self, Creative Thinkers, Clarity Seekers, Collaborators, and Adaptive Advocates</li><li>Your definition of success doesn't have to look like anyone else's</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:14 – Meet the Hosts</p><p>2:26 – Welcome Orsi &amp; Brand3</p><p>2:37 – What Brand3 Does</p><p>4:12 – Heart for Service Defined</p><p>7:03 – Redefining Client Success</p><p>9:11 – Impact Stories &amp; Wins</p><p>13:38 – Branding as Truth</p><p>16:27 – Scaling Without Losing Values</p><p>17:15 – Brand3 Core Values</p><p>18:26 – Origins as a Design Shop</p><p>21:34 – Branding Beyond Marketing</p><p>23:34 – Values Mirror the Founder</p><p>26:01 – Core Values in Action</p><p>26:58 – Scaling Slippery Slopes</p><p>31:11 – Redefining Success Metrics</p><p>35:14 – Helping People Who Help</p><p>36:23 – Brand Strategy Rapid Fire</p><p>37:16 – Marketing Goes Relational</p><p>38:36 – Sales Truth Telling</p><p>40:12 – Client Experience by Design</p><p>41:38 – Client Highlights, Not Bragging</p><p>43:18 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>46:48 – Closing Thanks &amp; Where to Find Us</p><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when a business built on genuine relationships tries to grow — and nearly loses everything that made it special in the process? That's the honest, behind-the-scenes story we're unpacking today with Brand3 founder and President Orsi Herbein. Orsi shares the real lessons from 10 years of building a branding and marketing agency, including a painful season of chasing the wrong definition of success, why hastily delegating client relationships almost cost the company, and how getting clear on your own definition of success changes everything. If you lead a service-based business and feel the pull between growth and staying true to what matters most, this one is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>What "CEO's heart for service" actually means — and why it's the lens Brand3 uses to choose who they work with</li><li>Why branding done right is simply the truth about your business</li><li>The real reason service-based B2B businesses struggle to define themselves (hint: you're too close to your own stuff)</li><li>How Brand3 helped a client achieve an extraordinary EBITDA multiplier in a private equity exit — by giving them the confidence to stand their ground</li><li>The PCS Technology story: how a heart-shaped logo became an internal emoji and the whole team started to "catch the vision"</li><li>Orsi's honest account of a season when growth goals overrode core values — and what that cost</li><li>Why hastily delegating client relationships in a relational business is a recipe for trouble</li><li>How to brag about your clients instead of yourself (and why that's the most authentic marketing a service provider can do)</li><li>The Brand3 core values: Difference Makers, True to Self, Creative Thinkers, Clarity Seekers, Collaborators, and Adaptive Advocates</li><li>Your definition of success doesn't have to look like anyone else's</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:14 – Meet the Hosts</p><p>2:26 – Welcome Orsi &amp; Brand3</p><p>2:37 – What Brand3 Does</p><p>4:12 – Heart for Service Defined</p><p>7:03 – Redefining Client Success</p><p>9:11 – Impact Stories &amp; Wins</p><p>13:38 – Branding as Truth</p><p>16:27 – Scaling Without Losing Values</p><p>17:15 – Brand3 Core Values</p><p>18:26 – Origins as a Design Shop</p><p>21:34 – Branding Beyond Marketing</p><p>23:34 – Values Mirror the Founder</p><p>26:01 – Core Values in Action</p><p>26:58 – Scaling Slippery Slopes</p><p>31:11 – Redefining Success Metrics</p><p>35:14 – Helping People Who Help</p><p>36:23 – Brand Strategy Rapid Fire</p><p>37:16 – Marketing Goes Relational</p><p>38:36 – Sales Truth Telling</p><p>40:12 – Client Experience by Design</p><p>41:38 – Client Highlights, Not Bragging</p><p>43:18 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>46:48 – Closing Thanks &amp; Where to Find Us</p><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Beginning with the End in Mind | Exit Strategy Redefined with Anna Halaburda</title>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What you focus on when you start in business has a massive impact on what happens when you grow.</p><p><br></p><p>Anna Halaburda has been focusing on quality service at scale — not because she stumbled into it, but because she built Be Ready Exit Solutions with the end in mind from the very start. As a CPA, Certified Exit Planning Advisor, and founder of one of the few true exit planning firms in the lower middle market, Anna has spent her career helping business owners protect and transfer what they've spent their lives creating.</p><p><br></p><p>What makes Anna's perspective so sharp is that she doesn't just advise her clients on scalable systems and quality control — she applies those same standards ruthlessly to her own business. Be Ready is her most important client. And the way she's navigated growth, managed collaborating advisors, and protected her brand vision while staying true to what made her unique is a masterclass in principled scaling.</p><p><br></p><p>If you lead a service business and you've ever felt the tension between growing bigger and staying great, this conversation will give you language and a framework for that challenge you probably didn't have before.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Why Anna treats Be Ready Exit Solutions as her most important client — and what that actually looks like in practice</li><li>The "eat your own cooking" principle: you can't advise clients on systems and scalability if you haven't built them yourself</li><li>How Anna used collaborative business models to grow — and why finding clients through other advisors is far more efficient than going direct</li><li>The employee mindset vs. the entrepreneur mindset — and why the difference matters enormously when you're scaling through partners</li><li>Why "exit planning" has a perception problem, and how Anna reframes the conversation with business owners</li><li>The engagement map: how making your internal process visible to clients builds trust and eliminates the silence that drives them crazy</li><li>Why Anna deliberately does not try to become her clients' friend — and how that actually serves them better</li><li>The importance of industry-standard SOPs: if you're telling your clients they need them and you don't have them yourself, you shouldn't be in business</li><li>What private equity firms contacting Anna twice a day says about where the exit planning industry is heading</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>5:38 — What's at Stake: The Emotional Weight of Business Exit</p><p>6:31 — Scaling Was Never an Accident: Built In from Day One</p><p>8:21 — Eat Your Own Cooking: Be Ready as Its Own Best Client</p><p>12:45 — The Collaborative Model: Finding Clients Through Advisors</p><p>16:34 — The Messaging Challenge: Defining the Brand Under Pressure</p><p>25:24 — SOPs, Workflow, and Value Billing: Building the Spine of the Business</p><p>40:45 — The Partner Mindset Shift: Employee Thinking vs. Entrepreneurial Thinking</p><p>44:42 — Messaging at Scale: Getting Other Advisors to Believe It</p><p>47:54 — The Human Element: Why Speaking Beats Everything Else in B2B</p><p>1:00:17 — Advice to Younger Anna: Stay the Course</p><p>1:01:49 — Behind the Brand: Getting to Know the Human</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Be Ready Exit Solutions — <a href="http://bereadyexits.com/">bereadyexits.com</a></li><li>International Exit Planning Association (IEPA) — The certification body for exit planning advisors:<a href="https://theiepa.com/"> theiepa.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What you focus on when you start in business has a massive impact on what happens when you grow.</p><p><br></p><p>Anna Halaburda has been focusing on quality service at scale — not because she stumbled into it, but because she built Be Ready Exit Solutions with the end in mind from the very start. As a CPA, Certified Exit Planning Advisor, and founder of one of the few true exit planning firms in the lower middle market, Anna has spent her career helping business owners protect and transfer what they've spent their lives creating.</p><p><br></p><p>What makes Anna's perspective so sharp is that she doesn't just advise her clients on scalable systems and quality control — she applies those same standards ruthlessly to her own business. Be Ready is her most important client. And the way she's navigated growth, managed collaborating advisors, and protected her brand vision while staying true to what made her unique is a masterclass in principled scaling.</p><p><br></p><p>If you lead a service business and you've ever felt the tension between growing bigger and staying great, this conversation will give you language and a framework for that challenge you probably didn't have before.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Why Anna treats Be Ready Exit Solutions as her most important client — and what that actually looks like in practice</li><li>The "eat your own cooking" principle: you can't advise clients on systems and scalability if you haven't built them yourself</li><li>How Anna used collaborative business models to grow — and why finding clients through other advisors is far more efficient than going direct</li><li>The employee mindset vs. the entrepreneur mindset — and why the difference matters enormously when you're scaling through partners</li><li>Why "exit planning" has a perception problem, and how Anna reframes the conversation with business owners</li><li>The engagement map: how making your internal process visible to clients builds trust and eliminates the silence that drives them crazy</li><li>Why Anna deliberately does not try to become her clients' friend — and how that actually serves them better</li><li>The importance of industry-standard SOPs: if you're telling your clients they need them and you don't have them yourself, you shouldn't be in business</li><li>What private equity firms contacting Anna twice a day says about where the exit planning industry is heading</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>5:38 — What's at Stake: The Emotional Weight of Business Exit</p><p>6:31 — Scaling Was Never an Accident: Built In from Day One</p><p>8:21 — Eat Your Own Cooking: Be Ready as Its Own Best Client</p><p>12:45 — The Collaborative Model: Finding Clients Through Advisors</p><p>16:34 — The Messaging Challenge: Defining the Brand Under Pressure</p><p>25:24 — SOPs, Workflow, and Value Billing: Building the Spine of the Business</p><p>40:45 — The Partner Mindset Shift: Employee Thinking vs. Entrepreneurial Thinking</p><p>44:42 — Messaging at Scale: Getting Other Advisors to Believe It</p><p>47:54 — The Human Element: Why Speaking Beats Everything Else in B2B</p><p>1:00:17 — Advice to Younger Anna: Stay the Course</p><p>1:01:49 — Behind the Brand: Getting to Know the Human</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Be Ready Exit Solutions — <a href="http://bereadyexits.com/">bereadyexits.com</a></li><li>International Exit Planning Association (IEPA) — The certification body for exit planning advisors:<a href="https://theiepa.com/"> theiepa.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What you focus on when you start in business has a massive impact on what happens when you grow.</p><p><br></p><p>Anna Halaburda has been focusing on quality service at scale — not because she stumbled into it, but because she built Be Ready Exit Solutions with the end in mind from the very start. As a CPA, Certified Exit Planning Advisor, and founder of one of the few true exit planning firms in the lower middle market, Anna has spent her career helping business owners protect and transfer what they've spent their lives creating.</p><p><br></p><p>What makes Anna's perspective so sharp is that she doesn't just advise her clients on scalable systems and quality control — she applies those same standards ruthlessly to her own business. Be Ready is her most important client. And the way she's navigated growth, managed collaborating advisors, and protected her brand vision while staying true to what made her unique is a masterclass in principled scaling.</p><p><br></p><p>If you lead a service business and you've ever felt the tension between growing bigger and staying great, this conversation will give you language and a framework for that challenge you probably didn't have before.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Why Anna treats Be Ready Exit Solutions as her most important client — and what that actually looks like in practice</li><li>The "eat your own cooking" principle: you can't advise clients on systems and scalability if you haven't built them yourself</li><li>How Anna used collaborative business models to grow — and why finding clients through other advisors is far more efficient than going direct</li><li>The employee mindset vs. the entrepreneur mindset — and why the difference matters enormously when you're scaling through partners</li><li>Why "exit planning" has a perception problem, and how Anna reframes the conversation with business owners</li><li>The engagement map: how making your internal process visible to clients builds trust and eliminates the silence that drives them crazy</li><li>Why Anna deliberately does not try to become her clients' friend — and how that actually serves them better</li><li>The importance of industry-standard SOPs: if you're telling your clients they need them and you don't have them yourself, you shouldn't be in business</li><li>What private equity firms contacting Anna twice a day says about where the exit planning industry is heading</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>5:38 — What's at Stake: The Emotional Weight of Business Exit</p><p>6:31 — Scaling Was Never an Accident: Built In from Day One</p><p>8:21 — Eat Your Own Cooking: Be Ready as Its Own Best Client</p><p>12:45 — The Collaborative Model: Finding Clients Through Advisors</p><p>16:34 — The Messaging Challenge: Defining the Brand Under Pressure</p><p>25:24 — SOPs, Workflow, and Value Billing: Building the Spine of the Business</p><p>40:45 — The Partner Mindset Shift: Employee Thinking vs. Entrepreneurial Thinking</p><p>44:42 — Messaging at Scale: Getting Other Advisors to Believe It</p><p>47:54 — The Human Element: Why Speaking Beats Everything Else in B2B</p><p>1:00:17 — Advice to Younger Anna: Stay the Course</p><p>1:01:49 — Behind the Brand: Getting to Know the Human</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Be Ready Exit Solutions — <a href="http://bereadyexits.com/">bereadyexits.com</a></li><li>International Exit Planning Association (IEPA) — The certification body for exit planning advisors:<a href="https://theiepa.com/"> theiepa.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Primetime for Empowerment | Building Community Across Generations with Bernadette Wagner</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>Primetime for Empowerment | Building Community Across Generations with Bernadette Wagner</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really take to change the way we think about aging — and build a community that proves it?</p><p><br></p><p>Bernadette Wagner, founder and CEO of Primetime for Women, has spent years doing exactly that. What started as a mission to bring women 40 and over together around three research-backed pillars — positive social connections, lifelong learning, and healthy lifestyles — has grown into a vibrant, intergenerational community rooted in a simple but powerful idea: give and gain. From a weekly walking group that hasn't missed a single Wednesday in four years, to an International Women's Day conference that draws speakers from across the country, to a golf league for complete beginners called "Connections Over Competition," Bernadette shows us what it looks like to scale an organization without losing its soul. And she does it all as an all-volunteer nonprofit — fueled by community, collaboration, and the unshakeable belief that you don't know until you try.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Primetime for Women was founded on three research-based factors that influence physical health, emotional wellbeing, and longevity: positive social connections, lifelong learning, and healthy lifestyles — or as Bernadette puts it, "people, passion, and purpose."</li><li>Walking to Wellness has welcomed 398 different participants and walks every single Wednesday — indoors, outdoors, rain or shine — for four years without missing once.</li><li>The International Women's Day conference, now in its third year, is held in partnership with a local college, features speakers who volunteer their time, and is driven entirely by community sponsorships and donations.</li><li>The golf league "Connections Over Competition" was created to introduce women — including Bernadette herself, who had never touched a club — to golf in a welcoming, low-pressure environment.</li><li>A program called "A Year of Hikes" took Bernadette on the same 4-mile section of the Appalachian Trail with 52 different women during the pandemic — creating what she calls "trail intimacy" and a blog series published on the Primetime for Women website.</li><li>Scaling isn't always smooth — Bernadette shares candid stories about transitioning Walking to Wellness from outdoor parks to an indoor college track, navigating grant funding roadblocks, and the honest question of what happens to the organization when she's ready to step back.</li><li>The smoothie bike started as a beat-up donated bicycle with a blender duct-taped to it, and eventually became a professionally built piece of equipment funded by a grant — and now a potential revenue source at community events.</li><li>Men show up too. Three male regulars now set up the Primetime for Women banner every week — and shirts reading "Prime Time for Women and the Smart Men Who Support Them" have become part of the community.</li><li>The "give and gain" philosophy that Bernadette instills in the women she serves is the same mindset she applies to leading and growing the organization itself.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Welcome Back Intro</p><p>0:50 — Key Takeaways Preview</p><p>2:50 — Meet Bernadette Wagner</p><p>3:13 — Changing the Script on Aging</p><p>4:57 — Saturday in the Park</p><p>6:05 — International Women's Day Conference</p><p>9:22 — Walking to Wellness Magic</p><p>11:52 — Why Connections Get Hard</p><p>13:14 — Golf League for Beginners</p><p>16:43 — Measuring Service Impact</p><p>18:22 — Stories of Transformation</p><p>23:31 — Book Club &amp; Lifelong Learning</p><p>26:30 — Scaling Challenges Ahead</p><p>30:22 — Unexpected Support Arrives</p><p>32:26 — Scaling Walking to Wellness</p><p>34:56 — The Smoothie Bike Breakthrough</p><p>37:16 — Collaboration Over Competition</p><p>40:53 — Evolving the Audience Story</p><p>44:07 — Inclusive Giving and Donors</p><p>45:46 — Member Voices and Amplification</p><p>48:32 — Brand Story and Funding Hurdles</p><p>52:56 — Behind the Brand Q&amp;A</p><p>55:44 — Final Takeaways &amp; Where to Find Them</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.primetimeforwomen.org/">Primetime for Women</a> — Learn more, donate, find events, and read the blog (including Cultures, Cooking and Connections and the 52 Weeks hiking series)</li><li><a href="https://www.infinitelegacy.org/">Infinite Legacy</a> — Organ and tissue donation organization; a speaker from Infinite Legacy (Taylor Massey) presented at a Walking to Wellness session</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really take to change the way we think about aging — and build a community that proves it?</p><p><br></p><p>Bernadette Wagner, founder and CEO of Primetime for Women, has spent years doing exactly that. What started as a mission to bring women 40 and over together around three research-backed pillars — positive social connections, lifelong learning, and healthy lifestyles — has grown into a vibrant, intergenerational community rooted in a simple but powerful idea: give and gain. From a weekly walking group that hasn't missed a single Wednesday in four years, to an International Women's Day conference that draws speakers from across the country, to a golf league for complete beginners called "Connections Over Competition," Bernadette shows us what it looks like to scale an organization without losing its soul. And she does it all as an all-volunteer nonprofit — fueled by community, collaboration, and the unshakeable belief that you don't know until you try.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Primetime for Women was founded on three research-based factors that influence physical health, emotional wellbeing, and longevity: positive social connections, lifelong learning, and healthy lifestyles — or as Bernadette puts it, "people, passion, and purpose."</li><li>Walking to Wellness has welcomed 398 different participants and walks every single Wednesday — indoors, outdoors, rain or shine — for four years without missing once.</li><li>The International Women's Day conference, now in its third year, is held in partnership with a local college, features speakers who volunteer their time, and is driven entirely by community sponsorships and donations.</li><li>The golf league "Connections Over Competition" was created to introduce women — including Bernadette herself, who had never touched a club — to golf in a welcoming, low-pressure environment.</li><li>A program called "A Year of Hikes" took Bernadette on the same 4-mile section of the Appalachian Trail with 52 different women during the pandemic — creating what she calls "trail intimacy" and a blog series published on the Primetime for Women website.</li><li>Scaling isn't always smooth — Bernadette shares candid stories about transitioning Walking to Wellness from outdoor parks to an indoor college track, navigating grant funding roadblocks, and the honest question of what happens to the organization when she's ready to step back.</li><li>The smoothie bike started as a beat-up donated bicycle with a blender duct-taped to it, and eventually became a professionally built piece of equipment funded by a grant — and now a potential revenue source at community events.</li><li>Men show up too. Three male regulars now set up the Primetime for Women banner every week — and shirts reading "Prime Time for Women and the Smart Men Who Support Them" have become part of the community.</li><li>The "give and gain" philosophy that Bernadette instills in the women she serves is the same mindset she applies to leading and growing the organization itself.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Welcome Back Intro</p><p>0:50 — Key Takeaways Preview</p><p>2:50 — Meet Bernadette Wagner</p><p>3:13 — Changing the Script on Aging</p><p>4:57 — Saturday in the Park</p><p>6:05 — International Women's Day Conference</p><p>9:22 — Walking to Wellness Magic</p><p>11:52 — Why Connections Get Hard</p><p>13:14 — Golf League for Beginners</p><p>16:43 — Measuring Service Impact</p><p>18:22 — Stories of Transformation</p><p>23:31 — Book Club &amp; Lifelong Learning</p><p>26:30 — Scaling Challenges Ahead</p><p>30:22 — Unexpected Support Arrives</p><p>32:26 — Scaling Walking to Wellness</p><p>34:56 — The Smoothie Bike Breakthrough</p><p>37:16 — Collaboration Over Competition</p><p>40:53 — Evolving the Audience Story</p><p>44:07 — Inclusive Giving and Donors</p><p>45:46 — Member Voices and Amplification</p><p>48:32 — Brand Story and Funding Hurdles</p><p>52:56 — Behind the Brand Q&amp;A</p><p>55:44 — Final Takeaways &amp; Where to Find Them</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.primetimeforwomen.org/">Primetime for Women</a> — Learn more, donate, find events, and read the blog (including Cultures, Cooking and Connections and the 52 Weeks hiking series)</li><li><a href="https://www.infinitelegacy.org/">Infinite Legacy</a> — Organ and tissue donation organization; a speaker from Infinite Legacy (Taylor Massey) presented at a Walking to Wellness session</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 03:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really take to change the way we think about aging — and build a community that proves it?</p><p><br></p><p>Bernadette Wagner, founder and CEO of Primetime for Women, has spent years doing exactly that. What started as a mission to bring women 40 and over together around three research-backed pillars — positive social connections, lifelong learning, and healthy lifestyles — has grown into a vibrant, intergenerational community rooted in a simple but powerful idea: give and gain. From a weekly walking group that hasn't missed a single Wednesday in four years, to an International Women's Day conference that draws speakers from across the country, to a golf league for complete beginners called "Connections Over Competition," Bernadette shows us what it looks like to scale an organization without losing its soul. And she does it all as an all-volunteer nonprofit — fueled by community, collaboration, and the unshakeable belief that you don't know until you try.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Primetime for Women was founded on three research-based factors that influence physical health, emotional wellbeing, and longevity: positive social connections, lifelong learning, and healthy lifestyles — or as Bernadette puts it, "people, passion, and purpose."</li><li>Walking to Wellness has welcomed 398 different participants and walks every single Wednesday — indoors, outdoors, rain or shine — for four years without missing once.</li><li>The International Women's Day conference, now in its third year, is held in partnership with a local college, features speakers who volunteer their time, and is driven entirely by community sponsorships and donations.</li><li>The golf league "Connections Over Competition" was created to introduce women — including Bernadette herself, who had never touched a club — to golf in a welcoming, low-pressure environment.</li><li>A program called "A Year of Hikes" took Bernadette on the same 4-mile section of the Appalachian Trail with 52 different women during the pandemic — creating what she calls "trail intimacy" and a blog series published on the Primetime for Women website.</li><li>Scaling isn't always smooth — Bernadette shares candid stories about transitioning Walking to Wellness from outdoor parks to an indoor college track, navigating grant funding roadblocks, and the honest question of what happens to the organization when she's ready to step back.</li><li>The smoothie bike started as a beat-up donated bicycle with a blender duct-taped to it, and eventually became a professionally built piece of equipment funded by a grant — and now a potential revenue source at community events.</li><li>Men show up too. Three male regulars now set up the Primetime for Women banner every week — and shirts reading "Prime Time for Women and the Smart Men Who Support Them" have become part of the community.</li><li>The "give and gain" philosophy that Bernadette instills in the women she serves is the same mindset she applies to leading and growing the organization itself.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 — Welcome Back Intro</p><p>0:50 — Key Takeaways Preview</p><p>2:50 — Meet Bernadette Wagner</p><p>3:13 — Changing the Script on Aging</p><p>4:57 — Saturday in the Park</p><p>6:05 — International Women's Day Conference</p><p>9:22 — Walking to Wellness Magic</p><p>11:52 — Why Connections Get Hard</p><p>13:14 — Golf League for Beginners</p><p>16:43 — Measuring Service Impact</p><p>18:22 — Stories of Transformation</p><p>23:31 — Book Club &amp; Lifelong Learning</p><p>26:30 — Scaling Challenges Ahead</p><p>30:22 — Unexpected Support Arrives</p><p>32:26 — Scaling Walking to Wellness</p><p>34:56 — The Smoothie Bike Breakthrough</p><p>37:16 — Collaboration Over Competition</p><p>40:53 — Evolving the Audience Story</p><p>44:07 — Inclusive Giving and Donors</p><p>45:46 — Member Voices and Amplification</p><p>48:32 — Brand Story and Funding Hurdles</p><p>52:56 — Behind the Brand Q&amp;A</p><p>55:44 — Final Takeaways &amp; Where to Find Them</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.primetimeforwomen.org/">Primetime for Women</a> — Learn more, donate, find events, and read the blog (including Cultures, Cooking and Connections and the 52 Weeks hiking series)</li><li><a href="https://www.infinitelegacy.org/">Infinite Legacy</a> — Organ and tissue donation organization; a speaker from Infinite Legacy (Taylor Massey) presented at a Walking to Wellness session</li></ul><p><br></p><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co<br></a><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Exceptional Service in Insurance: The Gerety Way</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really take to grow a service business without losing the personal touch that made it great in the first place? That tension — between scaling and staying true to your clients — is one every service-based business owner knows. After 28 years of building Gerety Insurance from a one-person operation into a thriving independent agency, Rick Gerety has found a way to do both. His secret? It's not complicated. It's just consistent.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><ul><li>Gerety Insurance's five core values — proactive, transparent, relationship-oriented, resourceful, and fun — aren't wall art. They drive hiring decisions, client interactions, and weekly team conversations.</li><li>When you call Gerety Insurance, a real human answers. Every time. No phone trees, no waiting. That one decision has defined the client experience for nearly three decades.</li><li>Rick's team proactively pulls renewal lists every week and reaches out to clients facing bigger-than-expected rate increases — before the client ever calls them.</li><li>A commercial client that started with one guy and one truck has grown to 40 trucks and 100 employees over 25 years — and Gerety has been there every step of the way.</li><li>Becoming an independent agency (after years as an exclusive Nationwide agent) nearly quadrupled growth — access to 25+ carriers meant they could finally match clients to the right coverage.</li><li>Separating sales from service roles 10–12 years ago was a turning point that dramatically improved efficiency and the quality of both functions.</li><li>The EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework helped Rick's team clarify their ideal client, establish written processes, and get the right people in the right seats.</li><li>Working with Brand3 led to the tagline "Partners for Your Protection" — three words that crystallized what Rick's team had already been doing for years.</li><li>Gerety now holds over 500 five-star Google reviews and has won the Best of Harford Award for insurance agencies two years running.</li><li>Rick's advice for navigating the growth-vs.-service tension: keep doing the little things right, and the big things will follow.</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Welcome and Introductions</p><p>0:32 – Core Values and EOS</p><p>3:11 – Small Touches Big Service</p><p>6:01 – Defining Exceptional Service</p><p>7:56 – Client Partnerships That Last</p><p>9:40 – Going Independent and Proactive Renewals</p><p>12:25 – Scaling the Agency and AI Questions</p><p>18:18 – Growth Costs and Hiring Reality</p><p>19:22 – Hardest Values to Keep</p><p>20:30 – Brand Beyond Marketing</p><p>21:13 – Partners for Your Protection</p><p>23:26 – Proof the Message Landed</p><p>25:39 – Brand3 Strategy Process</p><p>28:54 – EOS and Written Processes</p><p>29:42 – Client Experience Relationships</p><p>30:27 – Little Things and Leadership</p><p>33:36 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>34:59 – Personal Joy and Hobbies</p><p>38:35 – Defining Success and Next Steps</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><ul><li>Gerety Insurance —<a href="https://www.geretyinsurance.com/"> geretyinsurance.com</a></li><li>Contact Rick directly — rick@geretyinsurance.com</li><li>EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) —<a href="https://www.eosworldwide.com/"> eosworldwide.com</a></li></ul><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really take to grow a service business without losing the personal touch that made it great in the first place? That tension — between scaling and staying true to your clients — is one every service-based business owner knows. After 28 years of building Gerety Insurance from a one-person operation into a thriving independent agency, Rick Gerety has found a way to do both. His secret? It's not complicated. It's just consistent.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><ul><li>Gerety Insurance's five core values — proactive, transparent, relationship-oriented, resourceful, and fun — aren't wall art. They drive hiring decisions, client interactions, and weekly team conversations.</li><li>When you call Gerety Insurance, a real human answers. Every time. No phone trees, no waiting. That one decision has defined the client experience for nearly three decades.</li><li>Rick's team proactively pulls renewal lists every week and reaches out to clients facing bigger-than-expected rate increases — before the client ever calls them.</li><li>A commercial client that started with one guy and one truck has grown to 40 trucks and 100 employees over 25 years — and Gerety has been there every step of the way.</li><li>Becoming an independent agency (after years as an exclusive Nationwide agent) nearly quadrupled growth — access to 25+ carriers meant they could finally match clients to the right coverage.</li><li>Separating sales from service roles 10–12 years ago was a turning point that dramatically improved efficiency and the quality of both functions.</li><li>The EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework helped Rick's team clarify their ideal client, establish written processes, and get the right people in the right seats.</li><li>Working with Brand3 led to the tagline "Partners for Your Protection" — three words that crystallized what Rick's team had already been doing for years.</li><li>Gerety now holds over 500 five-star Google reviews and has won the Best of Harford Award for insurance agencies two years running.</li><li>Rick's advice for navigating the growth-vs.-service tension: keep doing the little things right, and the big things will follow.</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Welcome and Introductions</p><p>0:32 – Core Values and EOS</p><p>3:11 – Small Touches Big Service</p><p>6:01 – Defining Exceptional Service</p><p>7:56 – Client Partnerships That Last</p><p>9:40 – Going Independent and Proactive Renewals</p><p>12:25 – Scaling the Agency and AI Questions</p><p>18:18 – Growth Costs and Hiring Reality</p><p>19:22 – Hardest Values to Keep</p><p>20:30 – Brand Beyond Marketing</p><p>21:13 – Partners for Your Protection</p><p>23:26 – Proof the Message Landed</p><p>25:39 – Brand3 Strategy Process</p><p>28:54 – EOS and Written Processes</p><p>29:42 – Client Experience Relationships</p><p>30:27 – Little Things and Leadership</p><p>33:36 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>34:59 – Personal Joy and Hobbies</p><p>38:35 – Defining Success and Next Steps</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><ul><li>Gerety Insurance —<a href="https://www.geretyinsurance.com/"> geretyinsurance.com</a></li><li>Contact Rick directly — rick@geretyinsurance.com</li><li>EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) —<a href="https://www.eosworldwide.com/"> eosworldwide.com</a></li></ul><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really take to grow a service business without losing the personal touch that made it great in the first place? That tension — between scaling and staying true to your clients — is one every service-based business owner knows. After 28 years of building Gerety Insurance from a one-person operation into a thriving independent agency, Rick Gerety has found a way to do both. His secret? It's not complicated. It's just consistent.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><ul><li>Gerety Insurance's five core values — proactive, transparent, relationship-oriented, resourceful, and fun — aren't wall art. They drive hiring decisions, client interactions, and weekly team conversations.</li><li>When you call Gerety Insurance, a real human answers. Every time. No phone trees, no waiting. That one decision has defined the client experience for nearly three decades.</li><li>Rick's team proactively pulls renewal lists every week and reaches out to clients facing bigger-than-expected rate increases — before the client ever calls them.</li><li>A commercial client that started with one guy and one truck has grown to 40 trucks and 100 employees over 25 years — and Gerety has been there every step of the way.</li><li>Becoming an independent agency (after years as an exclusive Nationwide agent) nearly quadrupled growth — access to 25+ carriers meant they could finally match clients to the right coverage.</li><li>Separating sales from service roles 10–12 years ago was a turning point that dramatically improved efficiency and the quality of both functions.</li><li>The EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) framework helped Rick's team clarify their ideal client, establish written processes, and get the right people in the right seats.</li><li>Working with Brand3 led to the tagline "Partners for Your Protection" — three words that crystallized what Rick's team had already been doing for years.</li><li>Gerety now holds over 500 five-star Google reviews and has won the Best of Harford Award for insurance agencies two years running.</li><li>Rick's advice for navigating the growth-vs.-service tension: keep doing the little things right, and the big things will follow.</li></ul><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Welcome and Introductions</p><p>0:32 – Core Values and EOS</p><p>3:11 – Small Touches Big Service</p><p>6:01 – Defining Exceptional Service</p><p>7:56 – Client Partnerships That Last</p><p>9:40 – Going Independent and Proactive Renewals</p><p>12:25 – Scaling the Agency and AI Questions</p><p>18:18 – Growth Costs and Hiring Reality</p><p>19:22 – Hardest Values to Keep</p><p>20:30 – Brand Beyond Marketing</p><p>21:13 – Partners for Your Protection</p><p>23:26 – Proof the Message Landed</p><p>25:39 – Brand3 Strategy Process</p><p>28:54 – EOS and Written Processes</p><p>29:42 – Client Experience Relationships</p><p>30:27 – Little Things and Leadership</p><p>33:36 – Behind the Brand Quiz</p><p>34:59 – Personal Joy and Hobbies</p><p>38:35 – Defining Success and Next Steps</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><ul><li>Gerety Insurance —<a href="https://www.geretyinsurance.com/"> geretyinsurance.com</a></li><li>Contact Rick directly — rick@geretyinsurance.com</li><li>EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) —<a href="https://www.eosworldwide.com/"> eosworldwide.com</a></li></ul><p><em>The</em> <em>CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is a production of <strong>Brand3</strong>. If you’re a B2B service provider who delivers exceptional service but struggles to get your marketing to connect with the right people, find us at <a href="http://brand3.net">brand3.net</a>. And sign up for our Brand3 Newsletter that only sends marketing insights worthy of your inbox - genuinely helpful stuff for the road ahead. </p><p><em><br>The CEO’s Heart for Service</em> is also supported by <strong>Forge Podcast Company</strong>, a turnkey production solution for using podcasts to reach a wider audience, win new clients, and grow. Find them at <a href="http://forgepodcast.co">forgepodcast.co</a></p>]]>
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