Ricky Michel Presbot, co-founder and CEO of Ualett, decided to do something about it.

In this episode, Ricky shares how a failed early venture, a cab ride from JFK, and a chance encounter at a funeral led to the creation of a bilingual fintech platform now serving gig workers across the United States — with a $150 million credit facility to grow nationwide.

We go deep on the idea of the "multi-hustler economy," why niche is the X factor for any business, what Ricky learned driving Uber for three months before building his product, and why the company's central value isn't "believe in us" — it's "we believe in you."

This is a story about trust, dignity, and building something for people who've been left behind.

Topics covered:

• The cab ride from JFK that revealed a $150M opportunity
• Why the gig economy is everyone's economy
• The "multi-hustler" — a new category beyond the gig worker
• How Ualett works (and why it's not a predatory cash advance)
• The funeral pitch that started everything
• Building company values from a mentor relationship
• Why going to the field is non-negotiable before building a product
• What "we believe in you" actually means as a business model

Connect with Ricky: Ualett — https://ualett.com LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/ricky-michel-presbot-14964472

Duncan Barrigan spent 8 years helping build GoCardless into a global payments unicorn — then walked away to tackle something most founders walk right past: getting businesses paid. Not sexy. Not shiny. Just a $100 trillion problem that's been solved the same way, by humans, for 6,000 years.

In this conversation, Duncan breaks down why accounts receivable is actually a communication and negotiation problem (not a payments problem), how he brought a real cowboy and horse to lasso the Wall Street Bull for Lunos' launch, and what it really means to build a company around three values: curious, courageous, and relentless.

We also get into the identity shift that hit when he left a CXO role at a billion-dollar company, moved to New York in January, and had to rediscover who he was before Lunos existed.

If you're a founder choosing between the bold idea and the safe one — this one's for you.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 — Cold open: the horse that got stopped at the Manhattan border
0:23 — Introducing Duncan Barrigan & Lunos
1:48 — Lunos or Lunos? The definitive answer
3:05 — The $100 trillion problem hiding in plain sight
5:03 — The epiphany: it's not a payments problem
6:20 — Moving continent, quitting his job, and starting in January
8:29 — London vs New York startup culture
12:33 — The stifled entrepreneur: Pokémon cards & astronaut dreams
14:17 — Space cowboys & bright pink: building the Lunos brand
17:35 — The Wall Street Bull stunt (and the Guardian article)
21:57 — Curious, courageous, relentless: the three values
29:33 — Good mistakes vs bad mistakes (poker & Napoleon)
32:15 — The identity crisis before Lunos existed
33:49 — What kind of company does he want to build?
38:03 — Building self-awareness as a founder
40:53 — What's coming next: the agent-to-agent network
43:36 — Flying planes, barrel rolls & personal challenges
46:29 — Who should work with Lunos?

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CONNECT WITH DUNCAN
Lunos: lunos.ai

CONNECT WITH MATT STONE & THE BIGGER STAGE
Website: thebiggerstage.com
YouTube: youtube.com/@thebiggerstage

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The Bigger Stage is for founders whose reputation is stronger than their messaging. New episodes drop every other Saturday.

He went on the air as "J Pat". He was forced to cheer for the Green Bay Packers
while his actual loyalty stayed with the Chicago Bears and Cubs. He
programmed a country station he didn't connect with. And the whole
time, he was getting really good at being someone else.

In 2018 he walked away. No six-month runway. No clients lined up.
Just a hunch that life was too short to build someone else's dream —
the line that later became his TEDx talk.

Two years later, on March 18, 2020, the world shut down. The next
day, Pat went live on LinkedIn and hosted a show he called Small
Business Rally Point. 90 days later, it was a community. Today,
the Small Business Owners Community (SBOC) is a membership, an
annual conference that's drawn Mel Robbins, Mike Michalowicz, and
Sahil Bloom, and a daily show called Businessing with Pat Miller.

This conversation is about what it actually takes — on the inside —
to step out of a professional identity you spent two decades
constructing. About how a strength becomes a hindrance. About
"chiseling your way out" toward who you actually are. And about
excavating the room you wish you could walk into when you realize
founding a business is the loneliest job in the world.

If you're building on your own, this one will land.

CONNECT WITH PAT
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jpatmiller/
SBOC: https://smallbusinesscommunity.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BusinessingShow

THE BIGGER STAGE
Conversations with founders excavating the story underneath what
they've already built. The shift from operator to authority to icon,
captured on camera. Hosted by Matt Stone.

Watch the video version: https://www.youtube.com/@thebiggerstage
Learn more: https://thebiggerstage.com

Most leaders can't actually name their real values. They list the words on their website — honesty, integrity, loyalty — and call it a day. John Durso says those aren't values. They're table stakes.

In this episode, John walks Matt through a deceptively simple exercise that reveals what your values actually are: ask one or two people who know you well to describe you in one word, then ask them to tell a story that backs it up. What comes back is rarely what you'd predict.

John's wife described him as "unstoppable." Matt's two people landed on "charisma" and "generous." And the magic of the exercise isn't just learning what others see in you — it's that the word they choose tells you what they value most, which is critical leadership intel.

John spent over 22 years in retail banking working with hundreds of small businesses and nonprofits across the greater Philadelphia region. Today he runs Brilliant Business Strategies, helping community banks, credit unions, nonprofits, and small businesses build stronger leadership, healthier cultures, and better team performance.

In this conversation:

- Why "honesty" and "integrity" don't count as real values
- The one-word exercise — and why the story matters more than the word
- How perception becomes reality inside your company
- What Disney's Winnie the Pooh casting reveals about hiring for values
- How a new leader can use this exercise in their first 30 days

If you're a founder or CEO stepping into a bigger role — whether that's a hypergrowth season, a succession moment, or a move into thought leadership — this is foundational work. The kind serious leaders do at the start and return to when things get complicated.

CONNECT WITH JOHN DURSO
Website: brilliantbusinessstrategies.com
LinkedIn: search "John Durso Brilliant Business Strategies"

CONNECT WITH MATT STONE & THE BIGGER STAGE
The Bigger Stage helps founder-CEOs make the operator-to-icon transition.
Website: thebiggerstage.com
LinkedIn: search "Matt Stone Bigger Stage"

Subscribe wherever you listen for more conversations with leaders stepping onto bigger stages.

Full Show Notes

Kate Joynt is the founder and CEO of EZ Outlet, an electrical outlet extender now sold at Home Depot, on Amazon, on Walmart.com, and featured twice on NBC's Today Show.

She didn't come from consumer products. She came from real estate, enterprise tech sales, and a lifelong fascination with inventions that started with a kid-invention show on Nickelodeon. When her co-founder Tony made an offhand comment one day — "wouldn't it be cool if you could just plug something into the original outlet and pull the power up here, above the couch?" — Kate's ear was already primed for it.

What followed was years of prototyping, UL certification, factory sourcing, tooling and molding investments, and a brutal early period of paying for clicks that weren't there. Because nobody was searching for "electrical outlet extender." The category didn't exist yet.

Then one influencer posted one video. Sales went from 25 a day to 800 in an hour. Home Depot followed.

But the part of this conversation I keep coming back to isn't the wins. It's Kate describing her business as a "glass bubble" — fragile, vulnerable, something she had to protect through years where investors told her to keep going but nobody wrote a check until she didn't need one. It's her honesty about the stress that doesn't show up in pitch decks. And it's the specific, hard-won wisdom she has for the next founder standing where she was five years ago.

If you're an operator with an idea you keep almost-pursuing, or a founder in the messy middle of building something real, this episode is for you.

In this conversation:

What EZ Outlet actually is, and why the problem it solves is so universal • Why it took years to get to market and what "overnight success" really looks like • The conversation that sparked the idea, and why Kate's ear was ready for it • Working with a co-founder who's your polar opposite • How she found engineers, factories, and a buying agent without a manufacturing background • The shocks of UL certification and consumer product compliance • Why pay-per-click failed and one influencer post changed everything • Getting on NBC's Today Show — twice • The copycat problem, the safety stakes, and protecting the brand • The emotional toll of being all-in on one product • Why investors only fund you once you don't need them • Three pieces of advice for the next generation of founders

About Kate Joynt Kate Joynt is the founder and CEO of EZ Outlet, a patent holder, and an ETL-certified entrepreneur. Her background spans a decade in real estate and enterprise technology sales. Find EZ Outlet at Home Depot, on Amazon, on Walmart.com, and occasionally on HSN.

EZ Outlet website: https://ezoutlet.com/

Kate Joynt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katejoynt/

About The Bigger Stage The Bigger Stage is a podcast for founder-CEOs making the leap from operator to recognized authority. Hosted by Matt Stone, founder of The Bigger Stage. Learn more at thebiggerstage.com.

If this episode landed for you, the best thing you can do is share it with one founder who needs to hear it — and leave a rating on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. It's how more people find the show.

Kevin Nolan started with a paintbrush, a roommate, and a college student's ambition. Forty years later he'd built the largest residential painting company in Southeastern Pennsylvania — and done something most founders never manage.

He actually let go.

In this episode, Matt Stone sits down with Kevin for a wide-ranging conversation about what an entrepreneurial life really looks like across four decades. The 17 years Kevin spent grinding in the dark with no business plan, just payroll on Friday. The Zig Ziglar moment at 37 that changed everything. How he found his CEO and CFO hiding on his own paint crews. And what those final 18 months felt like — staying quiet in meetings he used to run.

In September 2024, Kevin retired. He says it felt like rocks coming off his shoulders.

This is a conversation about identity, legacy, and the courage it takes to step into something new.

In this episode:

• Why Kevin says he was never a painter — even when he was painting
• The Zig Ziglar line that launched his "second entrepreneurial seizure" at 37
• How John (an Eagle Scout from Sherwin-Williams) became his CEO 30 years later
• The 20-foot KPI wall — including profit — that every employee could see
• What emotional intelligence looks like inside a trades business
• The Wally story: why great leaders run toward conflict, not away
• Writing the final chapter of his career — before it happened
• September 2024: retirement and the rocks off his shoulders
• Running a marathon in all 50 states — and what that taught him about business
• Graduating 2,300th out of 2,600 at Villanova. And why he's glad he did.

Resources mentioned:

• Organizational Muscle by Kevin Nolan — https://a.co/d/0gywqBST
• Good to Great — Jim Collins
• Emotional Intelligence — Daniel Goleman
• The E-Myth Revisited — Michael Gerber
• How to Win Friends and Influence People — Dale Carnegie
• How to Stop Worrying and Start Living — Dale Carnegie

Connect with Kevin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinjnolan1/

Connect with Matt: Website: thebiggerstage.com
 Email: matt@mattstone.co

Meridith reached the highest levels of improv — including teaching at the famed Second City in Chicago. These days she takes everything she learned in the theater and puts it in the hands of leaders and entrepreneurs who need to earn trust in rooms that matter, move people to action, and stop sounding like everyone else.

In this conversation we get into why structure is the secret to freedom, what improv actually trains you for when things go wrong on stage, and why your next talk — wherever it happens — could be the inflection point that changes everything in your business and your life.

If you're an entrepreneur on a mission to build something bigger than yourself, this one is for you.

What you'll hear in this episode:

— Why every presenter sounds the same right now 
— and what to do about it 
— The paradox at the heart of improv: tighter containers create more freedom 
— The top mistakes speakers make (and why winging it is not the same as being unscripted) 
— What Meridith's clients look like before and after working with her 
— The "children's story" exercise that breaks every over-explainer 
— How your speaking practice makes you a better leader in every room 
— Why your talk is not just a talk 
— it's a catalyst for change 
— Matt's personal story: what stepping onto Meridith's stage revealed

Timestamps:

0:00 Cold open: Why every presenter sounds the same 
0:46 Introduction: Meet Meridith Grundei 
2:46 What Meridith does and who she serves 
4:09 The top mistakes speakers make 
6:26 Why improv is actually about structure — and how that sets you free 
8:23 Slide deck or no slide deck? The trust question 
10:51 Everything is at your disposal — you've just been limiting yourself 
12:44 When the deck dies on stage: what improv actually prepares you for 
14:11 Being human on stage — and what it reveals about who you are 
15:41 Who works with Meridith: entrepreneurs, execs, and engineers at Amazon 
17:45 Every product has a pulse: simplifying complex ideas for any audience 
19:38 How long does real improvement take? 
21:04 What transformation actually looks like on the other side 
22:45 The full opportunity most clients don't see coming 
23:56 Your talk is not just a talk — it's a catalyst for change 
24:19 Be perfectly imperfect: the theater approach to high-stakes moments 
26:28 The cybersecurity guy who was hilarious — and why audiences change everything 
26:51 Speaking as a leadership tool: Q&A, all-hands, and managing the room 
28:31 "Yes, And" — the improv rule that makes you a better leader 
30:11 What Meridith is most excited about in 2026 
32:05 The message for anyone still on the fence 
32:46 Matt's personal story: what Unscripted revealed 
34:17 Playback theater and the moment you play your own story back 
36:11 Simon Sinek, a flip chart, and why the idea doesn't have to be new

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Connect with Meridith Grundei:
Website: meridithgrundei.com
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/meridith/

Connect with Matt Stone / The Bigger Stage:
Website: thebiggerstage.com
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/matt-stone-letsconnect/

The Bigger Stage is where founder-CEOs come to make the leap from operator to icon — through the power of their voice, their story, and their stage.

David Kalinowski has spent 30 years building Proactive Worldwide, a global competitive intelligence firm operating across 62 countries. But in this conversation, we leave the business strategy behind and go somewhere more important — the inner game.

David's third book, The Sacrifice Paradox, draws on 101 real stories from entrepreneurs, executives, athletes, parents, and students — all wrestling with the same fundamental tension: what do you have to let go of to get where you're going?

In this episode we get into:

• Why most people are making sacrifices unconsciously — and what it's costing them
• The three types of sacrifice and why only one of them actually moves the needle
• A practical 2x2 decision framework for high-stakes trade-offs
• The personal story that sparked the book, including leaving his mother's side at his father's hospital bed to honor a professional commitment
• What the Jennifer Esposito story reveals about passion, risk, and the moment you don't see coming
• Why high performers don't avoid sacrifice — they choose it deliberately

This one will sit with you. Whether you're in the middle of building something, at a crossroads, or just trying to be more intentional about how you spend your time and energy — there's something in here for you.

📖 Get the book: thesacrificeparadox.com 📧 Contact  David: davidk@proactiveworldwide.com

SHORT DESCRIPTION (For platforms with character limits)

David Kalinowski built a global company over 30 years and wrote a book about what it really costs. The Sacrifice Paradox explores the trade-offs behind every meaningful success — and gives you a framework for making them intentionally. A conversation about entrepreneurship, resilience, and the inner game most people never talk about.

What followed was 30 years of figuring it out: film sets, production companies, forced pivots, mentors who saw something in her before she saw it herself — and eventually, a second act helping coaches and consultants show up on LinkedIn.

This is a conversation about the winding road. Nina is direct, funny, and unapologetically real. If you're in the middle of your own next chapter, this one's for you.

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SHOW NOTES

Nina Froriep is a filmmaker, producer, and LinkedIn coach who helps coaches and consultants build awareness and relationships on the platform. She's Swiss by design, savvy by New York — and she's been pivoting her whole career long before that was a buzzword.

In this episode:

• Why Nina's upbringing in Zurich left her with no career plan — and a lot of fantasies
• The Houston trip at age 11 that gave her her first taste of the wider world
• Coming to NYC for one semester at 23 and realizing she didn't have to follow anyone else's script
• The broken printer two minutes before airtime — and the moment she knew she was in the right world
• Building Clockwise Productions from scratch, surviving 9/11, and navigating the slow death of the traditional film business
• The friend who said "you need to do this for a living" — and why she was finally ready to hear it
• Eight years of building something new in the online space
• Why LinkedIn isn't just social media — and why she's not worried about AI killing curiosity (for the curious)
• The best advice she ever received: "I hope you never find it"

Connect with Nina: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nina-froriep Email: nina@clockwiseproductions.com

Very few talk about what growth does to the person leading it.

In this final pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone sits down with Theresa Cantley, growth architect to CEOs and founders, for a candid conversation about the internal side of scaling a business.

Theresa shares stories from both ends of the leadership spectrum — the boss who nearly broke her, the mentor who changed her trajectory, and the identity shifts that happen as founders rise.

This episode explores:

• why leaders lose connection to themselves as they scale
• the difference between revenue growth and human growth
• how toxic leadership can catalyze entrepreneurship
• why identity work is foundational for CEOs
• what it means to build from the inside out

If you’re leading a team, building a company, or stepping into your next level, this conversation will challenge what you prioritize — and why.

This episode also marks the close of the pre-launch run of The Building Business Relationships Show and the transition to The Bigger Stage w/ Matt Stone.

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In this episode:

• The hidden cost of scaling for founders
• A boss who pushed her into entrepreneurship
• The mentor who saw potential early
• Why CEOs disconnect from themselves
• Revenue growth vs human growth
• Building from the inside out

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Connect with Theresa Cantley on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresacantley/

In this episode of Building Business Relationships, Matt sits down with Jen Boyle, founder of a high-touch lifestyle management company serving high-net-worth families and executives across the U.S.

What begins as a story about fixing a scratch on a hardwood floor becomes a powerful metaphor for leadership, scaling, and the hidden pressures of success.

In this conversation, you’ll hear:

• Why “hustle” may be the wrong mindset for sustainable growth
• The invisible stress leaders carry — even at the top
• How trust becomes the true currency in high-stakes relationships
• Lessons from toxic leadership environments
• Why failure is often the fastest path to long-term success
• How to scale a business without losing your humanity

If you’re building something meaningful and want to grow without burning out — this episode is for you.

This is one of the final episodes under the Building Business Relationships pre-launch banner. The show will soon relaunch as The Bigger Stage with Matt Stone, expanding into deeper conversations about leadership, influence, and the human stories behind business success.

Subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next.

A conversation about trust, hustle culture, leadership, and the hidden emotional cost of success — with founder Jen Boyle.

For more on Jen Boyle, visit: https://morelm.com

It’s getting harder to tell what’s real—and who to trust.

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone sits down with Zvi Band, founder of Contactually (acquired) and Relatable, to explore how AI is reshaping relationships in business—and why trust is becoming the ultimate competitive advantage.

Zvi has spent much of his career building technology designed to strengthen human connection, not replace it. In this conversation, he shares why trusted relationships are becoming the most valuable filter in an AI-saturated world.

In this episode, we explore:

• why it’s increasingly difficult to tell humans from bots
• how AI is changing signal vs noise in business relationships
• why trust becomes more valuable as automation scales
• how founders should rethink relationships in sales, hiring, and partnerships
• what won’t change, even as technology accelerates

This is a grounded, forward-looking conversation for entrepreneurs navigating AI without losing their humanity—or their edge.

In this episode:

• Can you still tell what’s human anymore?
• AI-generated communication and trust erosion
• Relationships as a competitive moat
• Signal vs noise in an automated world
• Building trust at scale without losing authenticity
• What founders should prioritize next

For more about Zvi Band: https://zvi.band/

But there’s a more important question we’re not asking enough.

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone is joined by Al Dea, host of The Edge of Work podcast, for a timely conversation about leadership, trust, and the human side of AI-driven change.

Rather than debating the latest technology, this episode explores what AI exposes about organizations—and what leaders need to get right before transformation can succeed.

In this conversation, we explore:

• the real question leaders should be asking as AI accelerates
• why AI amplifies existing trust and leadership gaps
• how uncertainty impacts relationships at work
• what employees actually need during rapid change
• why trust and clarity matter more than speed

This is a thoughtful, grounded conversation for leaders navigating AI not just as a technology shift—but as a human one.

In this episode:

• The question leaders keep avoiding about AI
• Why AI acts as a mirror for culture and trust
• Employee fear vs leadership intent
• Communication breakdowns during change
• What human-centered leadership looks like now
• Why the future of work is still human

Find Al Dea on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsaldea/

But what if that story is backwards?

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone is joined by Heidi Medina, a five-time entrepreneur and conversation-first business strategist, to challenge one of the most common myths in modern marketing:

Followers don’t build businesses. Relationships do.

Heidi shares how social platforms trained us to prioritize numbers, impressions, and algorithms—while quietly pulling us away from the conversations that actually create trust, referrals, and revenue.

This episode explores:

• why follower counts rarely translate into real business
• how platforms incentivize performance over connection
• what “conversation-first” marketing actually looks like
• why intention matters more than consistency
• how small shifts can unlock meaningful momentum

This is a practical, human conversation for entrepreneurs who want growth to feel more natural—and more effective.

In this episode:

• A relationship that changed Heidi’s entrepreneurial path
• Followers vs real relationships
• How platforms trained us to chase numbers
• Content as conversation, not performance
• A real client example: small shifts, big impact
• Why intention beats algorithms

Find Heidi Medina here: https://www.talkingintoprofits.com/

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone is joined by Michael Gansl, a seasoned entrepreneur and principal at Voice of Reason Consulting, for a candid conversation about the hidden relationship dynamics that quietly make—or break—companies.

Michael shares decades of experience working with founders, partners, and leadership teams, including a principle that has guided his work for years:

“The words that are not said sink the business.”

This episode explores:

• how unspoken tension erodes trust over time
• why silence is often more dangerous than conflict
• what long-lasting business partnerships actually require
• how presence, patience, and honesty outperform tactics
• why relationships—not strategy—determine outcomes

This is a reflective, experience-driven conversation for founders, partners, and leaders who know something important isn’t being said—and want to understand the cost of avoiding it.

🗂️ Concise Show Notes (Place Below Description)

In this episode:

• A chance relationship that changed a career
• Why partnerships fail even with good intentions
• “The words that are not said” and how they sink businesses
• Ego, silence, and unspoken expectations
• Creating space for real conversations
• Trust, presence, and leadership in an AI-driven world

Find more info about Michael Gansl here: https://www.voiceofreasonconsulting.com/

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone is joined by Jamelle Lindo, executive coach, international keynote speaker, and founder of Paradigm People Development, for a grounded conversation about why alignment, emotional intelligence, and human dynamics matter more than any plan on paper.

Jamelle shares stories from early mentorship, leadership development, and his work coaching executives around the world—revealing how businesses often struggle not because strategy is flawed, but because relationships are misaligned.

This episode explores:

• why great strategies still fail with the wrong people
• how EQ shows up in everyday leadership moments
• the difference between managing information and facilitating growth
• why values alignment determines long-term success
• how leadership is shaped long before a business is built

This is a thoughtful, practical conversation for founders, leaders, and builders who want to create businesses that actually work—because the people inside them do.

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Concise show notes:

In this episode:

• A mentorship that shaped Jamelle’s leadership path
• “How would you like to be led?”—and why it matters
• Presenting vs facilitating people
• EQ as a strategic advantage
• Values alignment in business relationships
• Why strategy can’t compensate for misalignment

Guest: Jamelle Lindo
Executive Coach | Founder, Paradigm People Development

Host: Matt Stone
Creator, The Building Business Relationships Show

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Chapters:

00:00 – Why strategy isn’t enough

01:40 – A relationship that shaped Jamelle’s career

04:30 – “How would you like to be led?”

06:50 – Feeling seen as a leadership accelerator

09:15 – Presenting vs facilitating

11:30 – Learning from unexpected influences

13:45 – Mastery, EQ, and leadership craft

15:50 – Values alignment in business relationships

18:10 – What excites Jamelle about the show’s launch

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For more on Jamelle Lindo, visit: https://jamellelindo.com

They’re not.

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone speaks with Michael Allosso, a communication expert and former theater professional, about why relationships are happening all the time—and how presence, curiosity, and self-awareness shape trust in everyday moments.

From family dynamics to flight attendants, improv to leadership, this conversation reminds us that who we are in small moments defines who we are at work.

You’ll hear:

• why separating personal and professional is a false divide
• how “yes, and” thinking changes relationships
• why being interested beats being interesting
• how trust is built long before strategy shows up

This episode is reflective, entertaining, and deeply human.

For more about Michael Allosso, visit: https://www.michaelallosso.com/
For more about Michael's 2026 Immersion Retreat, visit: https://www.michaelallosso.com/immersion-retreat-2026.html

• The career moment when being seen changed everything
• Why audiences decide emotionally before logically
• How presentations become relationships—or barriers
• The difference between partnership language and relationship language
• Why EQ is replacing IQ as the leadership differentiator

Guest: Mike Verret
Chief Presentation Officer, Verret & Associates

Vapresentations@gmail.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-verret

Host: Matt Stone
Creator, The Building Business Relationships Show

More about Arthi Rabikrission here: https://www.prernaadvisory.com/

Full Notes:

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt sits down with Arthi Rabikrisson—a global award-winning leadership coach and thought leader—to explore the essential skill most leaders never get trained in: relational capital.

Arthi shares the story of the early manager who saw potential in her that she couldn’t yet see in herself — a relationship that opened unexpected doors and changed the trajectory of her entire career. 

From there, the conversation digs into what leaders struggle with most today: not the technical side of work, but the people side — building trust, sustaining relationships, and navigating connection in a world that’s increasingly transactional.

In this episode, you’ll learn:
• Why relational intelligence is the hidden advantage behind high-impact leaders
• How transformative relationships differ from transactional ones
• Why networking often feels wrong — and what real connection requires instead
• The role of reciprocity, presence, and vulnerability in building trust
• Why peer relationships may matter more than mentors or senior leaders
• What leaders can do today to strengthen the relationships around them

If you’re a founder, first-time manager, or anyone trying to lead through people, this episode gives you practical guidance on how to build relationships that elevate your career, your team, and your impact.

It’s relationships. Tight ones. Deep ones. Offline ones. And if you understand how to build them, everything else accelerates. 

In this conversation, you’ll learn:
• How your offline relationships fuel your online influence
• Why intimacy at scale outperforms traditional “influencer” tactics
• The order of operations for building real authority (relationships → referrals → media → opportunity)
• Why many large accounts can’t sell, and what actually moves people to action
• The future of branding in an age of AI and social fragmentation
• Tactical advice for founders, creators, and leaders building communities

If you want to grow your brand without compromising your values—or your sanity—this episode is a blueprint.

More about Kait LeDonne here: https://kaitledonne.com

You’ll hear:
• The early data on downloads, views, and global reach 
• Why this show is needed now more than ever
• How human connection fuels resilience, growth, and adaptability
• Plans for upcoming panel episodes and new show formats
• A new partnership with Podstream Studios in Times Square
• What the pre-launch journey will look like from here

If you're an entrepreneur, entrepreneurial thinker, or someone who believes in the power of great relationships, this episode gives you a clear view of what we’re building—together.

Connect with Paul Banks:
Web: https://javelincontent.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-banks007/

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What if trust wasn’t something people had to earn slowly… but something you gave freely from the start?

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone speaks with Paul Banks, founder of Javelin Content Management, about the surprising psychology behind trust, the power of storytelling, and why video has become one of the fastest ways to build authentic relationships in today’s AI-driven world.

Paul shares the story of the leader who saw his potential long before he saw it himself, and how that single moment transformed the trajectory of his career. From there, the two dive into the role relationships play in business, why people buy you before they buy your service, and how creators can stand out in a world flooded with content.

These early episodes are part of our pre-launch exploration phase, designed to spark ideas, test concepts, and hear from you about what this show should ultimately become.

💬 Tell us what you think:
What topics do you want more of?
Which guests should we bring in?
Your input helps shape the show.

Go to https://mattstone.co and use the Contact form to send us your thoughts. 

🎧 More episodes → https://bbrshow.transistor.fm

📺 Watch the video version → https://youtube.com/@buildbizrelationships

Connect with Nobantu Mpotulo here: https://nobantucoaching.co.za/

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What if leadership started with the heart?

In this pre-launch conversation of The Building Business Relationships Show, Matt Stone sits down with Nobantu Mpotulo — a globally recognized Master Certified Coach, mindfulness teacher, and leadership facilitator — to explore how the ancient African philosophy of Ubuntu can change the way we lead, connect, and build trust in business.

Nobantu shares her powerful story of growing up during apartheid in South Africa, and how those experiences inspired her to dedicate her life to helping people see and hear one another. Together, she and Matt explore what it means to lead with both heart and backbone, how compassion builds high-performing teams, and why business relationships are always human relationships first.

💡 In this episode, you’ll learn:

• What Ubuntu really means — and how it applies in modern organizations
• How to lead with presence, compassion, and accountability
• Why “seeing and hearing others” unlocks trust and innovation
• What leaders can do to humanize performance and connection at work

These early conversations are not the final format of the show — they’re part of the creative pre-launch phase, where we explore what matters most and invite you to help shape the conversations to come.

🎧 Listen, reflect, and send us your thoughts: What topics or guests would you love to see next?

Your feedback helps shape the future of The Building Business Relationships Show.

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#Leadership #Ubuntu #BusinessRelationships #MattStone #NobantuMpotulo #HumanCenteredLeadership #Trust #Compassion #Podcast #PreLaunch

In this pre-launch episode of The Building Business Relationships Show, host Matt Stone sits down with Dr. Tasha Eurich, organizational psychologist, New York Times bestselling author of Insight and Shatterproof, and the world’s leading expert on self-awareness.

Together, they explore:

• How self-awareness impacts every business relationship
• Why “loving critics” are the key to your growth
• The hidden cost of reactivity under stress
• The 3 human needs driving your emotions (confidence, choice, and connection)
• How to lead and build relationships that make you shatterproof

If you’re a founder, entrepreneur, or leader building something big in a chaotic world — this conversation is your reminder that the most powerful relationship you’ll ever manage is the one with yourself.

🎙️ This episode is part of our pre-launch series, where we’re testing ideas, learning from incredible guests, and inviting you to help shape what this show becomes.

🕒 CHAPTERS / TIME MARKERS

0:00 – Welcome & Show Intro
0:45 – Meet Dr. Tasha Eurich: The World’s #1 Self-Awareness Expert
1:30 – The Relationship That Changed Everything (Marshall Goldsmith Story)
3:00 – Lessons from a Great Mentor
4:30 – Overcoming Fear of Self-Promotion
6:00 – The Purpose of Leadership: Making a Positive Difference
7:30 – Loving Critics vs. Cheerleaders
9:00 – How Relationships Improve Self-Awareness
10:30 – The Hidden Danger of Reactivity
12:00 – Understanding the 3 Human Needs: Confidence, Choice & Connection
14:00 – Why Love Belongs in Business
15:00 – What Makes This Show Different — and Why It Matters
16:00 – Closing Reflections & What’s Next

If you’re an entrepreneur, founder, or visionary leader, this conversation will challenge how you think about performance, purpose, and human connection.

Part of The Building Business Relationships Show pre-launch series—where we’re testing ideas, learning from guests, and inviting you to help shape what the show becomes.

More About This Episode:

Too many high achievers sacrifice health, happiness, and relationships chasing success. In this episode, Rick Petry, a former trial lawyer turned law professor and performance coach, joins Matt Stone to unpack the science and soul of leadership.

They discuss:

• How one mentor changed Rick’s entire career trajectory
• Why relationships drive every successful business
• The neuroscience behind trust, burnout, and resilience
• How empathy and connection create a competitive edge
• Why today’s divided world needs better conversations, not louder arguments

💡 Listen to rediscover the human side of success—and how to build relationships that scale sustainably.

Part of The Building Business Relationships Show pre-launch series — where we’re testing ideas, learning from guests, and inviting you to help shape what the show becomes.