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    <itunes:summary>The Bell Board Podcast is the outdoor advertising industry's go-to show for candid conversations, hard-won insights, and straight talk from the people building, buying, and selling billboards. Hosted by Neil Bell — operator, developer, and guy who still can't drive past a billboard without doing math in his head — each episode goes beyond the numbers to explore the deals, the decisions, and the lessons that define a life in OOH.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Building a Billboard Business That Lasts | Hal &amp; Diana Stevenson</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How do you build an independent billboard company that can grow without depending on one person to run everything? Diana Stevenson (CEO) and Hal Stevenson (Chief Development Officer) of Grace Outdoor Advertising join Neil Bell to share the lessons behind building, operating, and preparing their outdoor advertising business for the next generation.</p><p><br></p><p>Hal and Diana trace their path through billboard leasing and development in Oklahoma, Texas, and Southern California, an early and costly bet on digital billboards years before the ad industry was ready for them, and the recession that brought them back to South Carolina to rebuild Grace Outdoor from the ground up. Diana explains how she came back to run the company on one condition — she'd be in charge — and then rebuilt its systems, its team, and its client base from scratch.</p><p><br></p><p>They also dig into some of the biggest challenges facing independent OOH operators today: multi-year permitting fights, managing thousands of digital-billboard contracts a year, servicing national advertisers, and training the next generation to run the business without them.</p><p><br></p><p>For independent billboard owners and outdoor advertising professionals, this is a firsthand look at what it takes to turn decades of industry knowledge into a company that can run beyond its founders.</p><p><br></p><p>LINKS</p><p><br></p><p>Grace Outdoor Advertising: https://graceoutdoor.com</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/graceoutdooradvertising/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Grace-Outdoor/109527645755004</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceoutdooradvertising/</p><p><br></p><p>KEY TAKEAWAYS</p><p><br></p><p>• Grace Outdoor Advertising manages billboard inventory for roughly 30 different entities — family LLCs, longtime partners, and small companies whose owners live nowhere near the signs</p><p>• Diana Stevenson came back to run the company on one condition — that she'd be in charge — then rebuilt its systems from scratch, starting by learning who their clients were and how they paid</p><p>• A single digital billboard face can generate thousands of contracts a year, versus about 24 for a static sign — software like Apparatix, integrated with their accounting system, is what makes that volume manageable</p><p>• National advertisers make up an estimated 25-35% of Grace Outdoor's business; they pay reliably but slowly (often around four months), which rewards operators with strong back-office systems</p><p>• One billboard permit took 3.5 years and only came through after Grace Outdoor won an appeal to the Board of Zoning Appeals 4-1, after planning staff had recommended denial with no clear legal reason</p><p>• Hal's approach to difficult zoning fights is persistence over litigation — suing a municipality tends to end the relationship for every permit after it</p><p>• Every excavation carries real risk: Grace Outdoor has hit a pressurized sewer line and a 36-inch water main on separate builds, with the water-main repair costing roughly half that project's profit</p><p>• Grace Outdoor grows only at the edges of its existing South Carolina/North Carolina footprint, since a single sign in a distant market is hard to sell without a local presence</p><p>• The company's name, "Grace," came from Hal's brother Danny, half-jokingly, after a territorial conflict with Lamar Advertising split their earlier business venture</p><p><br></p><p>SUMMARY</p><p><br></p><p>Hal and Diana Stevenson met while he was a fill-in bank branch manager and she was a part-time teller in Columbia, South Carolina. Hal's billboard career started through a mentor's company, Omni Outdoor Advertising, and took the couple through leasing and permitting jobs in Oklahoma City, San Antonio, and Southern California — including an early, expensive bet on digital billboards on LA's 405 freeway (roughly $800,000 for one face) that the advertising industry wasn't yet equipped to buy into. When the recession hit and the bank pressure on the business mounted, Hal asked Diana to come back and run things. She agreed, on one condition: she'd be in charge.</p><p><br></p><p>From there, Diana rebuilt the company from the ground up — literally starting by getting the mail and learning how every client paid — and used that ground-level knowledge to redesign the company's systems, team, and client relationships. The company took the name "Grace" at the suggestion of Hal's brother Danny, after a territorial dispute with Lamar Advertising split an earlier venture the brothers were both involved in. Today, Grace Outdoor manages billboard inventory for around 30 different entities, from family LLCs to small companies whose owners have no local presence, and does an estimated 25-35% of its business with national advertisers — relationships that pay reliably but slowly, and that reward operators with strong back-office systems like Apparatix, integrated with their accounting software, to keep thousands of digital-billboard contracts a year organized.</p><p><br></p><p>The conversation also covers the operational realities of running an independent OOH company: permitting and zoning fights that can take years and hinge on persistence rather than litigation (including a 3.5-year, 4-1 board-appeal win), the real risk of hitting utilities during installation, and the ongoing project of moving decades of Hal's institutional knowledge out of his head and into a team — including son-in-law Josh, now the company's CEO — so Grace Outdoor can keep running without depending on any one person. 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        <![CDATA[<p>How do you build an independent billboard company that can grow without depending on one person to run everything? Diana Stevenson (CEO) and Hal Stevenson (Chief Development Officer) of Grace Outdoor Advertising join Neil Bell to share the lessons behind building, operating, and preparing their outdoor advertising business for the next generation.</p><p><br></p><p>Hal and Diana trace their path through billboard leasing and development in Oklahoma, Texas, and Southern California, an early and costly bet on digital billboards years before the ad industry was ready for them, and the recession that brought them back to South Carolina to rebuild Grace Outdoor from the ground up. Diana explains how she came back to run the company on one condition — she'd be in charge — and then rebuilt its systems, its team, and its client base from scratch.</p><p><br></p><p>They also dig into some of the biggest challenges facing independent OOH operators today: multi-year permitting fights, managing thousands of digital-billboard contracts a year, servicing national advertisers, and training the next generation to run the business without them.</p><p><br></p><p>For independent billboard owners and outdoor advertising professionals, this is a firsthand look at what it takes to turn decades of industry knowledge into a company that can run beyond its founders.</p><p><br></p><p>LINKS</p><p><br></p><p>Grace Outdoor Advertising: https://graceoutdoor.com</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/graceoutdooradvertising/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Grace-Outdoor/109527645755004</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceoutdooradvertising/</p><p><br></p><p>KEY TAKEAWAYS</p><p><br></p><p>• Grace Outdoor Advertising manages billboard inventory for roughly 30 different entities — family LLCs, longtime partners, and small companies whose owners live nowhere near the signs</p><p>• Diana Stevenson came back to run the company on one condition — that she'd be in charge — then rebuilt its systems from scratch, starting by learning who their clients were and how they paid</p><p>• A single digital billboard face can generate thousands of contracts a year, versus about 24 for a static sign — software like Apparatix, integrated with their accounting system, is what makes that volume manageable</p><p>• National advertisers make up an estimated 25-35% of Grace Outdoor's business; they pay reliably but slowly (often around four months), which rewards operators with strong back-office systems</p><p>• One billboard permit took 3.5 years and only came through after Grace Outdoor won an appeal to the Board of Zoning Appeals 4-1, after planning staff had recommended denial with no clear legal reason</p><p>• Hal's approach to difficult zoning fights is persistence over litigation — suing a municipality tends to end the relationship for every permit after it</p><p>• Every excavation carries real risk: Grace Outdoor has hit a pressurized sewer line and a 36-inch water main on separate builds, with the water-main repair costing roughly half that project's profit</p><p>• Grace Outdoor grows only at the edges of its existing South Carolina/North Carolina footprint, since a single sign in a distant market is hard to sell without a local presence</p><p>• The company's name, "Grace," came from Hal's brother Danny, half-jokingly, after a territorial conflict with Lamar Advertising split their earlier business venture</p><p><br></p><p>SUMMARY</p><p><br></p><p>Hal and Diana Stevenson met while he was a fill-in bank branch manager and she was a part-time teller in Columbia, South Carolina. Hal's billboard career started through a mentor's company, Omni Outdoor Advertising, and took the couple through leasing and permitting jobs in Oklahoma City, San Antonio, and Southern California — including an early, expensive bet on digital billboards on LA's 405 freeway (roughly $800,000 for one face) that the advertising industry wasn't yet equipped to buy into. When the recession hit and the bank pressure on the business mounted, Hal asked Diana to come back and run things. She agreed, on one condition: she'd be in charge.</p><p><br></p><p>From there, Diana rebuilt the company from the ground up — literally starting by getting the mail and learning how every client paid — and used that ground-level knowledge to redesign the company's systems, team, and client relationships. The company took the name "Grace" at the suggestion of Hal's brother Danny, after a territorial dispute with Lamar Advertising split an earlier venture the brothers were both involved in. Today, Grace Outdoor manages billboard inventory for around 30 different entities, from family LLCs to small companies whose owners have no local presence, and does an estimated 25-35% of its business with national advertisers — relationships that pay reliably but slowly, and that reward operators with strong back-office systems like Apparatix, integrated with their accounting software, to keep thousands of digital-billboard contracts a year organized.</p><p><br></p><p>The conversation also covers the operational realities of running an independent OOH company: permitting and zoning fights that can take years and hinge on persistence rather than litigation (including a 3.5-year, 4-1 board-appeal win), the real risk of hitting utilities during installation, and the ongoing project of moving decades of Hal's institutional knowledge out of his head and into a team — including son-in-law Josh, now the company's CEO — so Grace Outdoor can keep running without depending on any one person. The episode ends earlier than planned after a technical issue cut the recording short; Neil promises to have Hal and Diana back for a second conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Meet Diana and Hal Stevenson of Grace Outdoor<br>01:19 Hal's Start in the Billboard Business<br>05:37 Building the Business One Sign at a Time<br>06:20 Becoming an Early Digital Billboard Adopter<br>07:59 Diana Returns and Takes Charge<br>12:49 Rebuilding Grace Outdoor From the Ground Up<br>15:16 Managing Signs for Multiple Owners and Entities<br>17:12 How Grace Outdoor Chooses Where to Grow<br>24:13 Preparing the Business for the Next Generation<br>28:27 The Risks of Building New Billboards<br>31:30 Persistence, Permitting, and Zoning Challenges<br>35:27 How Digital Billboards Serve Local Communities<br>37:20 Building Systems for Digital Billboard Operations<br>39:54 Working With National Advertisers and Payment Terms<br>~44:20 Sponsor Message: Drachman M&amp;A Co. &amp; SignDash (est.)<br>~46:00 Wrap-Up &amp; What's Next (est.)</p><p><br></p><p>TOPICS COVERED</p><p><br></p><p>• Independent billboard ownership</p><p>• Billboard leasing &amp; development</p><p>• Digital billboard advertising</p><p>• Billboard permitting &amp; zoning appeals</p><p>• Billboard business succession</p><p>• National advertiser relationships</p><p>• Billboard management software (Apparatix)</p><p>• Family-owned business systems</p><p>• Utility strikes &amp; installation risk</p><p>• IBO / independent operator community</p><p><br></p><p>SPONSOR BLOCK</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is supported by:</p><p><br></p><p>Drachman M&amp;A Co. — the outdoor advertising industry's M&amp;A advisory firm; Neil's own M&amp;A advisor for New South Outdoor. drachmanco.com</p><p><br></p><p>SignDash — billboard sales &amp; inventory management software for independent OOH operators. signdash.com</p><p><br></p><p>HASHTAGS</p><p><br></p><p>#BellBoardPodcast #OutdoorAdvertising #BillboardBusiness #OOHAdvertising</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How do you build an independent billboard company that can grow without depending on one person to run everything? Diana Stevenson (CEO) and Hal Stevenson (Chief Development Officer) of Grace Outdoor Advertising join Neil Bell to share the lessons behind building, operating, and preparing their outdoor advertising business for the next generation.</p><p><br></p><p>Hal and Diana trace their path through billboard leasing and development in Oklahoma, Texas, and Southern California, an early and costly bet on digital billboards years before the ad industry was ready for them, and the recession that brought them back to South Carolina to rebuild Grace Outdoor from the ground up. Diana explains how she came back to run the company on one condition — she'd be in charge — and then rebuilt its systems, its team, and its client base from scratch.</p><p><br></p><p>They also dig into some of the biggest challenges facing independent OOH operators today: multi-year permitting fights, managing thousands of digital-billboard contracts a year, servicing national advertisers, and training the next generation to run the business without them.</p><p><br></p><p>For independent billboard owners and outdoor advertising professionals, this is a firsthand look at what it takes to turn decades of industry knowledge into a company that can run beyond its founders.</p><p><br></p><p>LINKS</p><p><br></p><p>Grace Outdoor Advertising: https://graceoutdoor.com</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/graceoutdooradvertising/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Grace-Outdoor/109527645755004</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceoutdooradvertising/</p><p><br></p><p>KEY TAKEAWAYS</p><p><br></p><p>• Grace Outdoor Advertising manages billboard inventory for roughly 30 different entities — family LLCs, longtime partners, and small companies whose owners live nowhere near the signs</p><p>• Diana Stevenson came back to run the company on one condition — that she'd be in charge — then rebuilt its systems from scratch, starting by learning who their clients were and how they paid</p><p>• A single digital billboard face can generate thousands of contracts a year, versus about 24 for a static sign — software like Apparatix, integrated with their accounting system, is what makes that volume manageable</p><p>• National advertisers make up an estimated 25-35% of Grace Outdoor's business; they pay reliably but slowly (often around four months), which rewards operators with strong back-office systems</p><p>• One billboard permit took 3.5 years and only came through after Grace Outdoor won an appeal to the Board of Zoning Appeals 4-1, after planning staff had recommended denial with no clear legal reason</p><p>• Hal's approach to difficult zoning fights is persistence over litigation — suing a municipality tends to end the relationship for every permit after it</p><p>• Every excavation carries real risk: Grace Outdoor has hit a pressurized sewer line and a 36-inch water main on separate builds, with the water-main repair costing roughly half that project's profit</p><p>• Grace Outdoor grows only at the edges of its existing South Carolina/North Carolina footprint, since a single sign in a distant market is hard to sell without a local presence</p><p>• The company's name, "Grace," came from Hal's brother Danny, half-jokingly, after a territorial conflict with Lamar Advertising split their earlier business venture</p><p><br></p><p>SUMMARY</p><p><br></p><p>Hal and Diana Stevenson met while he was a fill-in bank branch manager and she was a part-time teller in Columbia, South Carolina. Hal's billboard career started through a mentor's company, Omni Outdoor Advertising, and took the couple through leasing and permitting jobs in Oklahoma City, San Antonio, and Southern California — including an early, expensive bet on digital billboards on LA's 405 freeway (roughly $800,000 for one face) that the advertising industry wasn't yet equipped to buy into. When the recession hit and the bank pressure on the business mounted, Hal asked Diana to come back and run things. She agreed, on one condition: she'd be in charge.</p><p><br></p><p>From there, Diana rebuilt the company from the ground up — literally starting by getting the mail and learning how every client paid — and used that ground-level knowledge to redesign the company's systems, team, and client relationships. The company took the name "Grace" at the suggestion of Hal's brother Danny, after a territorial dispute with Lamar Advertising split an earlier venture the brothers were both involved in. Today, Grace Outdoor manages billboard inventory for around 30 different entities, from family LLCs to small companies whose owners have no local presence, and does an estimated 25-35% of its business with national advertisers — relationships that pay reliably but slowly, and that reward operators with strong back-office systems like Apparatix, integrated with their accounting software, to keep thousands of digital-billboard contracts a year organized.</p><p><br></p><p>The conversation also covers the operational realities of running an independent OOH company: permitting and zoning fights that can take years and hinge on persistence rather than litigation (including a 3.5-year, 4-1 board-appeal win), the real risk of hitting utilities during installation, and the ongoing project of moving decades of Hal's institutional knowledge out of his head and into a team — including son-in-law Josh, now the company's CEO — so Grace Outdoor can keep running without depending on any one person. The episode ends earlier than planned after a technical issue cut the recording short; Neil promises to have Hal and Diana back for a second conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Meet Diana and Hal Stevenson of Grace Outdoor<br>01:19 Hal's Start in the Billboard Business<br>05:37 Building the Business One Sign at a Time<br>06:20 Becoming an Early Digital Billboard Adopter<br>07:59 Diana Returns and Takes Charge<br>12:49 Rebuilding Grace Outdoor From the Ground Up<br>15:16 Managing Signs for Multiple Owners and Entities<br>17:12 How Grace Outdoor Chooses Where to Grow<br>24:13 Preparing the Business for the Next Generation<br>28:27 The Risks of Building New Billboards<br>31:30 Persistence, Permitting, and Zoning Challenges<br>35:27 How Digital Billboards Serve Local Communities<br>37:20 Building Systems for Digital Billboard Operations<br>39:54 Working With National Advertisers and Payment Terms<br>~44:20 Sponsor Message: Drachman M&amp;A Co. &amp; SignDash (est.)<br>~46:00 Wrap-Up &amp; What's Next (est.)</p><p><br></p><p>TOPICS COVERED</p><p><br></p><p>• Independent billboard ownership</p><p>• Billboard leasing &amp; development</p><p>• Digital billboard advertising</p><p>• Billboard permitting &amp; zoning appeals</p><p>• Billboard business succession</p><p>• National advertiser relationships</p><p>• Billboard management software (Apparatix)</p><p>• Family-owned business systems</p><p>• Utility strikes &amp; installation risk</p><p>• IBO / independent operator community</p><p><br></p><p>SPONSOR BLOCK</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is supported by:</p><p><br></p><p>Drachman M&amp;A Co. — the outdoor advertising industry's M&amp;A advisory firm; Neil's own M&amp;A advisor for New South Outdoor. drachmanco.com</p><p><br></p><p>SignDash — billboard sales &amp; inventory management software for independent OOH operators. signdash.com</p><p><br></p><p>HASHTAGS</p><p><br></p><p>#BellBoardPodcast #OutdoorAdvertising #BillboardBusiness #OOHAdvertising</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><br>Podcast Description: </p><p>How do you complete 44 billboard acquisitions while building a scalable outdoor advertising company? Trailhead Media CEO John Murrow shares the strategies, mistakes, systems, and leadership lessons behind the company’s rapid growth.</p><p><br>John explains how Trailhead Media launched during COVID, completed multiple acquisitions within its first few months, and grew to approximately 3,300 billboard faces across the Southeast.</p><p><br>The conversation covers billboard lease negotiations, acquisition due diligence, remote operations, digital billboard investments, programmatic advertising, private equity, company culture, and the challenges of integrating billboard assets quickly.</p><p><br>This episode is for billboard operators, outdoor advertising professionals, independent media owners, sales leaders, and anyone interested in scaling an out-of-home advertising company.</p><p><br>Guest Website: <a href="https://trailheadmedia.com/">https://trailheadmedia.com/<br></a><br></p><p><br>Time Stamps / Chapters: </p><p>00:00 Meet John Murrow of Trailhead Media</p><p>00:57 Launching Trailhead Media during COVID</p><p>03:07 John’s career in billboard real estate</p><p>03:47 Reducing billboard lease costs</p><p>06:11 Relationships and landowner negotiations</p><p>08:12 Moving from operations into the CEO role</p><p>11:20 Completing 44 billboard acquisitions</p><p>13:39 Acquisition mistakes and due diligence lessons</p><p>15:58 Trailhead’s more strategic acquisition approach</p><p>17:28 Building a remote billboard operating model</p><p>20:57 Growing outdoor advertising’s share of media</p><p>23:01 Billboard attribution and the 95-5 rule</p><p>27:48 Digital billboards and programmatic advertising</p><p>36:09 Building culture through acquisitions</p><p>42:20 What private equity misunderstands about billboards</p><p>46:28 John’s biggest leadership lesson</p><p>50:24 Why John loves the billboard industry</p><p>53:02 Final advice for building great teams</p><p><br></p><p><br>Tags:</p><p><br></p><p>billboard acquisitions, outdoor advertising, billboard industry, Trailhead Media, John Murrow, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, billboard company growth, billboard operations, digital billboards, programmatic advertising, billboard lease negotiations, billboard sales, outdoor media acquisitions, billboard business, remote operations, private equity billboard companies, billboard leadership</p><p><br></p><p><br>Hashtags: </p><p><br></p><p>#OutdoorAdvertising #BillboardIndustry #OOHAdvertising</p><p><br></p><p><br>Keywords: </p><p><br></p><p>billboard acquisitions</p><p>outdoor advertising growth</p><p>billboard company operations</p><p>Trailhead Media CEO</p><p>John Morrow interview</p><p>billboard lease negotiations</p><p>digital billboard investment</p><p>programmatic billboard advertising</p><p>remote billboard operations</p><p>outdoor advertising leadership</p><p>billboard acquisition strategy</p><p>out-of-home advertising</p><p>billboard company culture</p><p>billboard due diligence</p><p>private equity billboards</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><br>Podcast Description: </p><p>How do you complete 44 billboard acquisitions while building a scalable outdoor advertising company? Trailhead Media CEO John Murrow shares the strategies, mistakes, systems, and leadership lessons behind the company’s rapid growth.</p><p><br>John explains how Trailhead Media launched during COVID, completed multiple acquisitions within its first few months, and grew to approximately 3,300 billboard faces across the Southeast.</p><p><br>The conversation covers billboard lease negotiations, acquisition due diligence, remote operations, digital billboard investments, programmatic advertising, private equity, company culture, and the challenges of integrating billboard assets quickly.</p><p><br>This episode is for billboard operators, outdoor advertising professionals, independent media owners, sales leaders, and anyone interested in scaling an out-of-home advertising company.</p><p><br>Guest Website: <a href="https://trailheadmedia.com/">https://trailheadmedia.com/<br></a><br></p><p><br>Time Stamps / Chapters: </p><p>00:00 Meet John Murrow of Trailhead Media</p><p>00:57 Launching Trailhead Media during COVID</p><p>03:07 John’s career in billboard real estate</p><p>03:47 Reducing billboard lease costs</p><p>06:11 Relationships and landowner negotiations</p><p>08:12 Moving from operations into the CEO role</p><p>11:20 Completing 44 billboard acquisitions</p><p>13:39 Acquisition mistakes and due diligence lessons</p><p>15:58 Trailhead’s more strategic acquisition approach</p><p>17:28 Building a remote billboard operating model</p><p>20:57 Growing outdoor advertising’s share of media</p><p>23:01 Billboard attribution and the 95-5 rule</p><p>27:48 Digital billboards and programmatic advertising</p><p>36:09 Building culture through acquisitions</p><p>42:20 What private equity misunderstands about billboards</p><p>46:28 John’s biggest leadership lesson</p><p>50:24 Why John loves the billboard industry</p><p>53:02 Final advice for building great teams</p><p><br></p><p><br>Tags:</p><p><br></p><p>billboard acquisitions, outdoor advertising, billboard industry, Trailhead Media, John Murrow, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, billboard company growth, billboard operations, digital billboards, programmatic advertising, billboard lease negotiations, billboard sales, outdoor media acquisitions, billboard business, remote operations, private equity billboard companies, billboard leadership</p><p><br></p><p><br>Hashtags: </p><p><br></p><p>#OutdoorAdvertising #BillboardIndustry #OOHAdvertising</p><p><br></p><p><br>Keywords: </p><p><br></p><p>billboard acquisitions</p><p>outdoor advertising growth</p><p>billboard company operations</p><p>Trailhead Media CEO</p><p>John Morrow interview</p><p>billboard lease negotiations</p><p>digital billboard investment</p><p>programmatic billboard advertising</p><p>remote billboard operations</p><p>outdoor advertising leadership</p><p>billboard acquisition strategy</p><p>out-of-home advertising</p><p>billboard company culture</p><p>billboard due diligence</p><p>private equity billboards</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:author>Neil Bell</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>3463</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><br>Podcast Description: </p><p>How do you complete 44 billboard acquisitions while building a scalable outdoor advertising company? Trailhead Media CEO John Murrow shares the strategies, mistakes, systems, and leadership lessons behind the company’s rapid growth.</p><p><br>John explains how Trailhead Media launched during COVID, completed multiple acquisitions within its first few months, and grew to approximately 3,300 billboard faces across the Southeast.</p><p><br>The conversation covers billboard lease negotiations, acquisition due diligence, remote operations, digital billboard investments, programmatic advertising, private equity, company culture, and the challenges of integrating billboard assets quickly.</p><p><br>This episode is for billboard operators, outdoor advertising professionals, independent media owners, sales leaders, and anyone interested in scaling an out-of-home advertising company.</p><p><br>Guest Website: <a href="https://trailheadmedia.com/">https://trailheadmedia.com/<br></a><br></p><p><br>Time Stamps / Chapters: </p><p>00:00 Meet John Murrow of Trailhead Media</p><p>00:57 Launching Trailhead Media during COVID</p><p>03:07 John’s career in billboard real estate</p><p>03:47 Reducing billboard lease costs</p><p>06:11 Relationships and landowner negotiations</p><p>08:12 Moving from operations into the CEO role</p><p>11:20 Completing 44 billboard acquisitions</p><p>13:39 Acquisition mistakes and due diligence lessons</p><p>15:58 Trailhead’s more strategic acquisition approach</p><p>17:28 Building a remote billboard operating model</p><p>20:57 Growing outdoor advertising’s share of media</p><p>23:01 Billboard attribution and the 95-5 rule</p><p>27:48 Digital billboards and programmatic advertising</p><p>36:09 Building culture through acquisitions</p><p>42:20 What private equity misunderstands about billboards</p><p>46:28 John’s biggest leadership lesson</p><p>50:24 Why John loves the billboard industry</p><p>53:02 Final advice for building great teams</p><p><br></p><p><br>Tags:</p><p><br></p><p>billboard acquisitions, outdoor advertising, billboard industry, Trailhead Media, John Murrow, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, billboard company growth, billboard operations, digital billboards, programmatic advertising, billboard lease negotiations, billboard sales, outdoor media acquisitions, billboard business, remote operations, private equity billboard companies, billboard leadership</p><p><br></p><p><br>Hashtags: </p><p><br></p><p>#OutdoorAdvertising #BillboardIndustry #OOHAdvertising</p><p><br></p><p><br>Keywords: </p><p><br></p><p>billboard acquisitions</p><p>outdoor advertising growth</p><p>billboard company operations</p><p>Trailhead Media CEO</p><p>John Morrow interview</p><p>billboard lease negotiations</p><p>digital billboard investment</p><p>programmatic billboard advertising</p><p>remote billboard operations</p><p>outdoor advertising leadership</p><p>billboard acquisition strategy</p><p>out-of-home advertising</p><p>billboard company culture</p><p>billboard due diligence</p><p>private equity billboards</p>]]>
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      <title>From Bear Suit to Billboard Vet: Matt Schulze's 30+ Years in OOH</title>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>From Bear Suit to Billboard Vet: Matt Schulze's 30+ Years in OOH</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Building a successful billboard company takes far more than finding a good location. In this episode of The Bell Board Podcast, Neil Bell sits down with Matt Schulze of Selective Structures to talk billboard construction, digital billboard strategy, and the lessons of a 30+ year career in out-of-home (OOH) advertising.</p><p>Matt shares the wild story of how a bear costume unexpectedly launched his career, wood-pole vs. steel-monopole construction, why billboard maintenance gets overlooked, what makes a billboard truly "digital-ready," building stadium scoreboards and major sign projects, and what he believes the next generation of OOH operators needs to focus on.</p><p>Guest: Matt Schulze — Selective Structures (selectivestructures.com)<br>Host: Neil Bell — New South Outdoor (newsouthoutdoor.com)</p><p>0:00 Introduction &amp; meet Matt Schulze (Selective Structures)<br>1:03 The bear costume story that started a billboard career<br>4:24 Leaving radio for the billboard business<br>7:31 Tommy Teepell's influence &amp; finding success in billboards<br>9:21 Why billboard companies should work together<br>11:10 How the billboard industry has changed over 30 years<br>14:55 Why every billboard should be built digital-ready<br>17:30 Wood pole vs. steel monopole billboards<br>20:04 Common mistakes new billboard owners make<br>27:29 Billboard maintenance: paint, head bolts &amp; longevity<br>32:04 Billboard safety &amp; protecting installation crews<br>39:57 Wind frames vs. panels for hurricane-prone markets<br>41:27 Rising steel costs &amp; how to compare billboard structures<br>45:00 Building stadium scoreboards &amp; major sign projects<br>47:32 Digital billboard strategy &amp; buying the right equipment<br>55:10 Billboard advertising around the world<br>59:23 Creative billboard permitting &amp; using AI responsibly<br>1:02:24 Economic cycles in the billboard industry<br>1:04:08 Billboard investing &amp; return on investment (ROI)<br>1:05:43 Matt's biggest career lesson<br>1:08:02 Advice for the next generation of billboard operators<br>1:10:36 Closing thoughts</p><p>This episode is supported by:<br>Drachman M&amp;A Co. — the outdoor advertising industry's M&amp;A advisory firm. drachmanco.com<br>SignDash — billboard sales &amp; inventory management software for independent OOH operators. signdash.com</p><p>#Billboards #OutdoorAdvertising #OOH #DigitalBillboards #BillboardConstruction</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Building a successful billboard company takes far more than finding a good location. In this episode of The Bell Board Podcast, Neil Bell sits down with Matt Schulze of Selective Structures to talk billboard construction, digital billboard strategy, and the lessons of a 30+ year career in out-of-home (OOH) advertising.</p><p>Matt shares the wild story of how a bear costume unexpectedly launched his career, wood-pole vs. steel-monopole construction, why billboard maintenance gets overlooked, what makes a billboard truly "digital-ready," building stadium scoreboards and major sign projects, and what he believes the next generation of OOH operators needs to focus on.</p><p>Guest: Matt Schulze — Selective Structures (selectivestructures.com)<br>Host: Neil Bell — New South Outdoor (newsouthoutdoor.com)</p><p>0:00 Introduction &amp; meet Matt Schulze (Selective Structures)<br>1:03 The bear costume story that started a billboard career<br>4:24 Leaving radio for the billboard business<br>7:31 Tommy Teepell's influence &amp; finding success in billboards<br>9:21 Why billboard companies should work together<br>11:10 How the billboard industry has changed over 30 years<br>14:55 Why every billboard should be built digital-ready<br>17:30 Wood pole vs. steel monopole billboards<br>20:04 Common mistakes new billboard owners make<br>27:29 Billboard maintenance: paint, head bolts &amp; longevity<br>32:04 Billboard safety &amp; protecting installation crews<br>39:57 Wind frames vs. panels for hurricane-prone markets<br>41:27 Rising steel costs &amp; how to compare billboard structures<br>45:00 Building stadium scoreboards &amp; major sign projects<br>47:32 Digital billboard strategy &amp; buying the right equipment<br>55:10 Billboard advertising around the world<br>59:23 Creative billboard permitting &amp; using AI responsibly<br>1:02:24 Economic cycles in the billboard industry<br>1:04:08 Billboard investing &amp; return on investment (ROI)<br>1:05:43 Matt's biggest career lesson<br>1:08:02 Advice for the next generation of billboard operators<br>1:10:36 Closing thoughts</p><p>This episode is supported by:<br>Drachman M&amp;A Co. — the outdoor advertising industry's M&amp;A advisory firm. drachmanco.com<br>SignDash — billboard sales &amp; inventory management software for independent OOH operators. signdash.com</p><p>#Billboards #OutdoorAdvertising #OOH #DigitalBillboards #BillboardConstruction</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:author>Neil Bell</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>4274</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Building a successful billboard company takes far more than finding a good location. In this episode of The Bell Board Podcast, Neil Bell sits down with Matt Schulze of Selective Structures to talk billboard construction, digital billboard strategy, and the lessons of a 30+ year career in out-of-home (OOH) advertising.</p><p>Matt shares the wild story of how a bear costume unexpectedly launched his career, wood-pole vs. steel-monopole construction, why billboard maintenance gets overlooked, what makes a billboard truly "digital-ready," building stadium scoreboards and major sign projects, and what he believes the next generation of OOH operators needs to focus on.</p><p>Guest: Matt Schulze — Selective Structures (selectivestructures.com)<br>Host: Neil Bell — New South Outdoor (newsouthoutdoor.com)</p><p>0:00 Introduction &amp; meet Matt Schulze (Selective Structures)<br>1:03 The bear costume story that started a billboard career<br>4:24 Leaving radio for the billboard business<br>7:31 Tommy Teepell's influence &amp; finding success in billboards<br>9:21 Why billboard companies should work together<br>11:10 How the billboard industry has changed over 30 years<br>14:55 Why every billboard should be built digital-ready<br>17:30 Wood pole vs. steel monopole billboards<br>20:04 Common mistakes new billboard owners make<br>27:29 Billboard maintenance: paint, head bolts &amp; longevity<br>32:04 Billboard safety &amp; protecting installation crews<br>39:57 Wind frames vs. panels for hurricane-prone markets<br>41:27 Rising steel costs &amp; how to compare billboard structures<br>45:00 Building stadium scoreboards &amp; major sign projects<br>47:32 Digital billboard strategy &amp; buying the right equipment<br>55:10 Billboard advertising around the world<br>59:23 Creative billboard permitting &amp; using AI responsibly<br>1:02:24 Economic cycles in the billboard industry<br>1:04:08 Billboard investing &amp; return on investment (ROI)<br>1:05:43 Matt's biggest career lesson<br>1:08:02 Advice for the next generation of billboard operators<br>1:10:36 Closing thoughts</p><p>This episode is supported by:<br>Drachman M&amp;A Co. — the outdoor advertising industry's M&amp;A advisory firm. drachmanco.com<br>SignDash — billboard sales &amp; inventory management software for independent OOH operators. signdash.com</p><p>#Billboards #OutdoorAdvertising #OOH #DigitalBillboards #BillboardConstruction</p>]]>
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      <title>Stop Selling Billboards. Start Selling Ideas. | Kevin Gephart</title>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Stop Selling Billboards. Start Selling Ideas. | Kevin Gephart</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is rapidly changing billboard sales, but technology alone isn't enough. In this conversation, Kevin Gephart shares why successful out-of-home advertising starts with better sales thinking, stronger client relationships, and selling ideas instead of inventory.</p><p>Whether you're an independent billboard operator, sales manager, media executive, or advertising professional, this episode explores practical strategies for improving sales performance, leveraging AI, building better compensation plans, and helping advertisers achieve stronger marketing results.</p><p><br>Kevin also explains why local advertising remains one of the biggest untapped opportunities in out-of-home advertising and why operators should focus on growing the overall advertising pie—not just competing with other billboard companies.</p><p><br>Guest: Kevin Gephart - <a href="https://oohsalesfaster.com/">https://oohsalesfaster.com/<br></a><br></p><p>Sponsors:</p><p>Stark Capital - <a href="https://starkcapitalsolutions.com/">https://starkcapitalsolutions.com/</a></p><p><br>Selective -  <a href="https://www.selective.com/">https://www.selective.com/<br></a><br></p><p><br>Time Stamps / Chapters:</p><p>00:00 AI Is Changing Billboard Sales</p><p>01:00 Kevin Gephart's Background</p><p>05:14 Selling Ideas Instead of Billboard Space</p><p>10:20 Why Cold Calling Still Works</p><p>11:47 Using AI as a Sales Assistant</p><p>14:08 Why Short Advertising Campaigns Fail</p><p>18:19 Winning in Smaller Local Markets</p><p>23:22 Vendor Partnerships &amp; Digital Opportunities</p><p>27:30 Stop Competing Only With Other Billboards</p><p>37:35 Sales Compensation &amp; Incentives</p><p>46:06 Explaining Digital Billboards to Advertisers</p><p>53:17 Working With Advertising Agencies</p><p>01:00:08 What Has Become Harder About Selling Advertising</p><p>01:05:05 The One Mindset Shift Every Billboard Operator Needs</p><p><br>YouTube Tags: </p><p>billboard advertising, billboard sales, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, billboard marketing, AI in sales, AI for advertising, digital billboards, advertising sales, sales training, Kevin Gephart, OOH Sales Faster, local advertising, media sales, billboard operator, advertising strategy, cold calling, sales management</p><p><br>Hashtags:</p><p><br></p><p>#BillboardAdvertising #OutOfHome #SalesTraining</p><p><br></p><p>Keywords:</p><p><br></p><p>billboard sales strategy</p><p>out of home advertising</p><p>OOH advertising sales</p><p>AI for sales teams</p><p>billboard sales training</p><p>digital billboard marketing</p><p>local advertising strategy</p><p>media sales coaching</p><p>cold calling techniques</p><p>advertising sales management</p><p>billboard operator tips</p><p>creative billboard advertising</p><p>sales compensation plans</p><p>AI for prospecting</p><p>Kevin Gephart interview</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is rapidly changing billboard sales, but technology alone isn't enough. In this conversation, Kevin Gephart shares why successful out-of-home advertising starts with better sales thinking, stronger client relationships, and selling ideas instead of inventory.</p><p>Whether you're an independent billboard operator, sales manager, media executive, or advertising professional, this episode explores practical strategies for improving sales performance, leveraging AI, building better compensation plans, and helping advertisers achieve stronger marketing results.</p><p><br>Kevin also explains why local advertising remains one of the biggest untapped opportunities in out-of-home advertising and why operators should focus on growing the overall advertising pie—not just competing with other billboard companies.</p><p><br>Guest: Kevin Gephart - <a href="https://oohsalesfaster.com/">https://oohsalesfaster.com/<br></a><br></p><p>Sponsors:</p><p>Stark Capital - <a href="https://starkcapitalsolutions.com/">https://starkcapitalsolutions.com/</a></p><p><br>Selective -  <a href="https://www.selective.com/">https://www.selective.com/<br></a><br></p><p><br>Time Stamps / Chapters:</p><p>00:00 AI Is Changing Billboard Sales</p><p>01:00 Kevin Gephart's Background</p><p>05:14 Selling Ideas Instead of Billboard Space</p><p>10:20 Why Cold Calling Still Works</p><p>11:47 Using AI as a Sales Assistant</p><p>14:08 Why Short Advertising Campaigns Fail</p><p>18:19 Winning in Smaller Local Markets</p><p>23:22 Vendor Partnerships &amp; Digital Opportunities</p><p>27:30 Stop Competing Only With Other Billboards</p><p>37:35 Sales Compensation &amp; Incentives</p><p>46:06 Explaining Digital Billboards to Advertisers</p><p>53:17 Working With Advertising Agencies</p><p>01:00:08 What Has Become Harder About Selling Advertising</p><p>01:05:05 The One Mindset Shift Every Billboard Operator Needs</p><p><br>YouTube Tags: </p><p>billboard advertising, billboard sales, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, billboard marketing, AI in sales, AI for advertising, digital billboards, advertising sales, sales training, Kevin Gephart, OOH Sales Faster, local advertising, media sales, billboard operator, advertising strategy, cold calling, sales management</p><p><br>Hashtags:</p><p><br></p><p>#BillboardAdvertising #OutOfHome #SalesTraining</p><p><br></p><p>Keywords:</p><p><br></p><p>billboard sales strategy</p><p>out of home advertising</p><p>OOH advertising sales</p><p>AI for sales teams</p><p>billboard sales training</p><p>digital billboard marketing</p><p>local advertising strategy</p><p>media sales coaching</p><p>cold calling techniques</p><p>advertising sales management</p><p>billboard operator tips</p><p>creative billboard advertising</p><p>sales compensation plans</p><p>AI for prospecting</p><p>Kevin Gephart interview</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2026 13:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:author>Neil Bell</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>3995</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is rapidly changing billboard sales, but technology alone isn't enough. In this conversation, Kevin Gephart shares why successful out-of-home advertising starts with better sales thinking, stronger client relationships, and selling ideas instead of inventory.</p><p>Whether you're an independent billboard operator, sales manager, media executive, or advertising professional, this episode explores practical strategies for improving sales performance, leveraging AI, building better compensation plans, and helping advertisers achieve stronger marketing results.</p><p><br>Kevin also explains why local advertising remains one of the biggest untapped opportunities in out-of-home advertising and why operators should focus on growing the overall advertising pie—not just competing with other billboard companies.</p><p><br>Guest: Kevin Gephart - <a href="https://oohsalesfaster.com/">https://oohsalesfaster.com/<br></a><br></p><p>Sponsors:</p><p>Stark Capital - <a href="https://starkcapitalsolutions.com/">https://starkcapitalsolutions.com/</a></p><p><br>Selective -  <a href="https://www.selective.com/">https://www.selective.com/<br></a><br></p><p><br>Time Stamps / Chapters:</p><p>00:00 AI Is Changing Billboard Sales</p><p>01:00 Kevin Gephart's Background</p><p>05:14 Selling Ideas Instead of Billboard Space</p><p>10:20 Why Cold Calling Still Works</p><p>11:47 Using AI as a Sales Assistant</p><p>14:08 Why Short Advertising Campaigns Fail</p><p>18:19 Winning in Smaller Local Markets</p><p>23:22 Vendor Partnerships &amp; Digital Opportunities</p><p>27:30 Stop Competing Only With Other Billboards</p><p>37:35 Sales Compensation &amp; Incentives</p><p>46:06 Explaining Digital Billboards to Advertisers</p><p>53:17 Working With Advertising Agencies</p><p>01:00:08 What Has Become Harder About Selling Advertising</p><p>01:05:05 The One Mindset Shift Every Billboard Operator Needs</p><p><br>YouTube Tags: </p><p>billboard advertising, billboard sales, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, billboard marketing, AI in sales, AI for advertising, digital billboards, advertising sales, sales training, Kevin Gephart, OOH Sales Faster, local advertising, media sales, billboard operator, advertising strategy, cold calling, sales management</p><p><br>Hashtags:</p><p><br></p><p>#BillboardAdvertising #OutOfHome #SalesTraining</p><p><br></p><p>Keywords:</p><p><br></p><p>billboard sales strategy</p><p>out of home advertising</p><p>OOH advertising sales</p><p>AI for sales teams</p><p>billboard sales training</p><p>digital billboard marketing</p><p>local advertising strategy</p><p>media sales coaching</p><p>cold calling techniques</p><p>advertising sales management</p><p>billboard operator tips</p><p>creative billboard advertising</p><p>sales compensation plans</p><p>AI for prospecting</p><p>Kevin Gephart interview</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>From Operator to Owner: Scaling a Billboard Business Without Losing Control | Becky Smith - Behind The Board</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>From Operator to Owner: Scaling a Billboard Business Without Losing Control | Becky Smith - Behind The Board</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens after the billboard sale is often where the real work begins. In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://behindtheboard.io/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Behind The Board</a> founder Becky Smith, a billboard operations specialist who helps independent operators streamline their businesses and reclaim their time. Becky has spent years managing the day-to-day operations of multi-market billboard companies, working directly with advertisers, installers, printers, and owners to keep campaigns running smoothly. </p><p>We discuss the operational challenges that can slow growth, including campaign scheduling, advertiser communication, proof-of-performance reporting, billing, documentation, and digital billboard management. Becky shares why many operators don't need more sales—they need better systems and support behind the scenes to handle everything that happens after a contract is signed. </p><p>The conversation also explores delegation, scaling an out-of-home advertising business, building efficient workflows, and creating processes that allow owners to focus on growth rather than getting buried in daily administrative tasks.</p><p>Whether you're an independent billboard operator, out-of-home advertising professional, or entrepreneur looking to build a more efficient business, this episode is packed with practical insights on operations, organization, and sustainable growth. </p><p><strong>Learn more about Becky and Behind The Board:</strong><br><a href="https://behindtheboard.io/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">behindtheboard.io</a></p><p><br></p><p>00:14:32 IBO Growth and Bigger Industry Events</p><p>00:18:29 Why Panels Deliver the Most Value</p><p>00:20:53 Learning Through Industry Networking</p><p>00:23:05 What Successful Billboard Operators Do Well</p><p>00:26:16 Bootstrapping vs Private Equity in Billboard Advertising</p><p>00:28:20 Why Billboard Businesses Aren't Traditional Real Estate</p><p>00:30:08 Growth Challenges and Delegation</p><p>00:35:27 Digital Billboards and Industry Change</p><p>00:37:13 Consolidation and the Future of Independent Operators</p><p>00:40:19 Attribution, Metrics and Advertiser Expectations</p><p>00:42:21 The Challenge of Measuring Out-of-Home Advertising</p><p>00:45:15 Launching a New Business Venture</p><p>00:48:20 Helping Billboard Operators Scale</p><p>00:53:02 Entrepreneurial Advice and Taking the Leap</p><p><br></p><p>Tags:</p><p>billboard advertising, billboard business, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, digital billboards, independent billboard operators, billboard industry, outdoor advertising, billboard sales, business growth, entrepreneurship, private equity, attribution marketing, advertising metrics, billboard conferences, IBO, out of home media</p><p><br></p><p>Hashtags:</p><p>#BillboardAdvertising</p><p>#OutOfHomeAdvertising</p><p>#Entrepreneurship</p><p>Time Stamps / Chapters: </p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens after the billboard sale is often where the real work begins. In this episode, we sit down with <a href="https://behindtheboard.io/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Behind The Board</a> founder Becky Smith, a billboard operations specialist who helps independent operators streamline their businesses and reclaim their time. Becky has spent years managing the day-to-day operations of multi-market billboard companies, working directly with advertisers, installers, printers, and owners to keep campaigns running smoothly. </p><p>We discuss the operational challenges that can slow growth, including campaign scheduling, advertiser communication, proof-of-performance reporting, billing, documentation, and digital billboard management. Becky shares why many operators don't need more sales—they need better systems and support behind the scenes to handle everything that happens after a contract is signed. </p><p>The conversation also explores delegation, scaling an out-of-home advertising business, building efficient workflows, and creating processes that allow owners to focus on growth rather than getting buried in daily administrative tasks.</p><p>Whether you're an independent billboard operator, out-of-home advertising professional, or entrepreneur looking to build a more efficient business, this episode is packed with practical insights on operations, organization, and sustainable growth. </p><p><strong>Learn more about Becky and Behind The Board:</strong><br><a href="https://behindtheboard.io/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">behindtheboard.io</a></p><p><br></p><p>00:14:32 IBO Growth and Bigger Industry Events</p><p>00:18:29 Why Panels Deliver the Most Value</p><p>00:20:53 Learning Through Industry Networking</p><p>00:23:05 What Successful Billboard Operators Do Well</p><p>00:26:16 Bootstrapping vs Private Equity in Billboard Advertising</p><p>00:28:20 Why Billboard Businesses Aren't Traditional Real Estate</p><p>00:30:08 Growth Challenges and Delegation</p><p>00:35:27 Digital Billboards and Industry Change</p><p>00:37:13 Consolidation and the Future of Independent Operators</p><p>00:40:19 Attribution, Metrics and Advertiser Expectations</p><p>00:42:21 The Challenge of Measuring Out-of-Home Advertising</p><p>00:45:15 Launching a New Business Venture</p><p>00:48:20 Helping Billboard Operators Scale</p><p>00:53:02 Entrepreneurial Advice and Taking the Leap</p><p><br></p><p>Tags:</p><p>billboard advertising, billboard business, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, digital billboards, independent billboard operators, billboard industry, outdoor advertising, billboard sales, business growth, entrepreneurship, private equity, attribution marketing, advertising metrics, billboard conferences, IBO, out of home media</p><p><br></p><p>Hashtags:</p><p>#BillboardAdvertising</p><p>#OutOfHomeAdvertising</p><p>#Entrepreneurship</p><p>Time Stamps / Chapters: </p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:summary>What happens after the billboard sale is often where the real work begins. In this episode, we sit down with Behind The Board founder Becky Smith, a billboard operations specialist who helps independent operators streamline their businesses and reclaim their time. Becky has spent years managing the day-to-day operations of multi-market billboard companies, working directly with advertisers, installers, printers, and owners to keep campaigns running smoothly.
We discuss the operational challenges that can slow growth, including campaign scheduling, advertiser communication, proof-of-performance reporting, billing, documentation, and digital billboard management. Becky shares why many operators don't need more sales—they need better systems and support behind the scenes to handle everything that happens after a contract is signed.
The conversation also explores delegation, scaling an out-of-home advertising business, building efficient workflows, and creating processes that allow owners to focus on growth rather than getting buried in daily administrative tasks.
Whether you're an independent billboard operator, out-of-home advertising professional, or entrepreneur looking to build a more efficient business, this episode is packed with practical insights on operations, organization, and sustainable growth.
Learn more about Becky and Behind The Board:
behindtheboard.io

00:14:32 IBO Growth and Bigger Industry Events
00:18:29 Why Panels Deliver the Most Value
00:20:53 Learning Through Industry Networking
00:23:05 What Successful Billboard Operators Do Well
00:26:16 Bootstrapping vs Private Equity in Billboard Advertising
00:28:20 Why Billboard Businesses Aren't Traditional Real Estate
00:30:08 Growth Challenges and Delegation
00:35:27 Digital Billboards and Industry Change
00:37:13 Consolidation and the Future of Independent Operators
00:40:19 Attribution, Metrics and Advertiser Expectations
00:42:21 The Challenge of Measuring Out-of-Home Advertising
00:45:15 Launching a New Business Venture
00:48:20 Helping Billboard Operators Scale
00:53:02 Entrepreneurial Advice and Taking the Leap

Tags:
billboard advertising, billboard business, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, digital billboards, independent billboard operators, billboard industry, outdoor advertising, billboard sales, business growth, entrepreneurship, private equity, attribution marketing, advertising metrics, billboard conferences, IBO, out of home media

Hashtags:
#BillboardAdvertising
#OutOfHomeAdvertising
#Entrepreneurship
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      <title>Want to build a billboard business? w/Justin Booher - Vital Outdoor</title>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Want to build a billboard business? In this episode, Justin of Vital Outdoor shares what he's learned after more than two decades in the out-of-home advertising industry, including finding billboard locations, financing growth, digital billboard adoption, and navigating legal battles.</p><p>From launching one of Oklahoma's first digital billboards to fighting a four-year lawsuit over a permit, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons for billboard operators, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in out-of-home advertising.</p><p>Whether you're new to the billboard industry or already own signs, you'll hear practical insights on site selection, sales, permitting, financing, and the realities of growing an outdoor advertising company.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps / Chapters:</strong></p><p><br>00:00 Introduction &amp; Sponsor Message (Stark Capital)<br>00:02:55 Meet Justin of Vital Outdoor<br>00:03:38 From Sign Company to Billboard Operator<br>00:05:37 Building the First Billboards in 2004<br>00:09:02 Launching One of Oklahoma's First Digital Billboards<br>00:16:28 Extreme Sports, Paragliding &amp; Skydiving<br>00:19:45 Running a Family Billboard Business<br>00:23:16 Sponsor Message (Selective Structures)<br>00:26:08 The Four-Year Billboard Lawsuit<br>00:35:33 The Billboard Construction Disaster Story<br>00:40:52 Growing to 15 Digital Billboards<br>00:44:34 Lightning Strikes a Digital Billboard<br>00:49:25 Why Some Billboard Locations Surprise You<br>00:53:03 The Value of the IBO Community<br>01:00:23 Advice for Young Billboard Entrepreneurs</p><p><br></p><p><strong>YouTube Tags:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>billboard business, billboard advertising, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, digital billboards, billboard investing, billboard permits, billboard financing, outdoor advertising, billboard entrepreneur, Vital Outdoor, Justin Vital Outdoor, IBO, independent billboard operators, digital billboard business, billboard site selection, billboard sales, out of home media</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hashtags:</strong></p><p><strong>#BillboardBusiness</strong><br><strong>#OutOfHomeAdvertising</strong><br><strong>#Entrepreneurship</strong></p><p><strong>Keywords:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>billboard business</strong></p><p><strong>digital billboard advertising</strong></p><p><strong>out of home advertising</strong></p><p><strong>outdoor advertising company</strong></p><p><strong>billboard investing</strong></p><p><strong>billboard permits</strong></p><p><strong>billboard financing</strong></p><p><strong>billboard site selection</strong></p><p><strong>digital billboard business</strong></p><p><strong>billboard entrepreneur</strong></p><p><strong>billboard sales strategies</strong></p><p><strong>independent billboard operators</strong></p><p><strong>billboard legal challenges</strong></p><p><strong>billboard acquisition strategy</strong></p><p><strong>outdoor advertising industry</strong></p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Want to build a billboard business? In this episode, Justin of Vital Outdoor shares what he's learned after more than two decades in the out-of-home advertising industry, including finding billboard locations, financing growth, digital billboard adoption, and navigating legal battles.</p><p>From launching one of Oklahoma's first digital billboards to fighting a four-year lawsuit over a permit, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons for billboard operators, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in out-of-home advertising.</p><p>Whether you're new to the billboard industry or already own signs, you'll hear practical insights on site selection, sales, permitting, financing, and the realities of growing an outdoor advertising company.</p><p><strong>Time Stamps / Chapters:</strong></p><p><br>00:00 Introduction &amp; Sponsor Message (Stark Capital)<br>00:02:55 Meet Justin of Vital Outdoor<br>00:03:38 From Sign Company to Billboard Operator<br>00:05:37 Building the First Billboards in 2004<br>00:09:02 Launching One of Oklahoma's First Digital Billboards<br>00:16:28 Extreme Sports, Paragliding &amp; Skydiving<br>00:19:45 Running a Family Billboard Business<br>00:23:16 Sponsor Message (Selective Structures)<br>00:26:08 The Four-Year Billboard Lawsuit<br>00:35:33 The Billboard Construction Disaster Story<br>00:40:52 Growing to 15 Digital Billboards<br>00:44:34 Lightning Strikes a Digital Billboard<br>00:49:25 Why Some Billboard Locations Surprise You<br>00:53:03 The Value of the IBO Community<br>01:00:23 Advice for Young Billboard Entrepreneurs</p><p><br></p><p><strong>YouTube Tags:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>billboard business, billboard advertising, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, digital billboards, billboard investing, billboard permits, billboard financing, outdoor advertising, billboard entrepreneur, Vital Outdoor, Justin Vital Outdoor, IBO, independent billboard operators, digital billboard business, billboard site selection, billboard sales, out of home media</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Hashtags:</strong></p><p><strong>#BillboardBusiness</strong><br><strong>#OutOfHomeAdvertising</strong><br><strong>#Entrepreneurship</strong></p><p><strong>Keywords:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>billboard business</strong></p><p><strong>digital billboard advertising</strong></p><p><strong>out of home advertising</strong></p><p><strong>outdoor advertising company</strong></p><p><strong>billboard investing</strong></p><p><strong>billboard permits</strong></p><p><strong>billboard financing</strong></p><p><strong>billboard site selection</strong></p><p><strong>digital billboard business</strong></p><p><strong>billboard entrepreneur</strong></p><p><strong>billboard sales strategies</strong></p><p><strong>independent billboard operators</strong></p><p><strong>billboard legal challenges</strong></p><p><strong>billboard acquisition strategy</strong></p><p><strong>outdoor advertising industry</strong></p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:author>Neil Bell</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Want to build a billboard business? In this episode, Justin of Vital Outdoor shares what he's learned after more than two decades in the out-of-home advertising industry, including finding billboard locations, financing growth, digital billboard adoption, and navigating legal battles.
From launching one of Oklahoma's first digital billboards to fighting a four-year lawsuit over a permit, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons for billboard operators, entrepreneurs, and anyone interested in out-of-home advertising.
Whether you're new to the billboard industry or already own signs, you'll hear practical insights on site selection, sales, permitting, financing, and the realities of growing an outdoor advertising company.
Time Stamps / Chapters:

00:00 Introduction &amp;amp; Sponsor Message (Stark Capital)
00:02:55 Meet Justin of Vital Outdoor
00:03:38 From Sign Company to Billboard Operator
00:05:37 Building the First Billboards in 2004
00:09:02 Launching One of Oklahoma's First Digital Billboards
00:16:28 Extreme Sports, Paragliding &amp;amp; Skydiving
00:19:45 Running a Family Billboard Business
00:23:16 Sponsor Message (Selective Structures)
00:26:08 The Four-Year Billboard Lawsuit
00:35:33 The Billboard Construction Disaster Story
00:40:52 Growing to 15 Digital Billboards
00:44:34 Lightning Strikes a Digital Billboard
00:49:25 Why Some Billboard Locations Surprise You
00:53:03 The Value of the IBO Community
01:00:23 Advice for Young Billboard Entrepreneurs

YouTube Tags:

billboard business, billboard advertising, out of home advertising, OOH advertising, digital billboards, billboard investing, billboard permits, billboard financing, outdoor advertising, billboard entrepreneur, Vital Outdoor, Justin Vital Outdoor, IBO, independent billboard operators, digital billboard business, billboard site selection, billboard sales, out of home media

Hashtags:
#BillboardBusiness
#OutOfHomeAdvertising
#Entrepreneurship
Keywords:

billboard business
digital billboard advertising
out of home advertising
outdoor advertising company
billboard investing
billboard permits
billboard financing
billboard site selection
digital billboard business
billboard entrepreneur
billboard sales strategies
independent billboard operators
billboard legal challenges
billboard acquisition strategy
outdoor advertising industry</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Want to build a billboard business? In this episode, Justin of Vital Outdoor shares what he's learned after more than two decades in the out-of-home advertising industry, including finding billboard locations, financing growth, digital billboard adoption,</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Episode 2 | Grey Vick | Grey Outdoor</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Grey Vick built one of the Carolinas' largest independent billboard companies from the ground up — 770+ faces, 50+ digitals — starting in 2007 with used utility poles, renegotiated loans, and bigger companies telling him he wouldn't make it. Neil and Grey trade war stories from the financial crisis, debate the real economics of easements vs. leases, and get into why long-term branding on a billboard works the way compound interest does. A builder who never sold out and a serial developer who's flipped seven companies talk straight about what this business actually takes — and why neither of them can quit the rush of watching a pole go in the ground.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Grey Vick built one of the Carolinas' largest independent billboard companies from the ground up — 770+ faces, 50+ digitals — starting in 2007 with used utility poles, renegotiated loans, and bigger companies telling him he wouldn't make it. Neil and Grey trade war stories from the financial crisis, debate the real economics of easements vs. leases, and get into why long-term branding on a billboard works the way compound interest does. A builder who never sold out and a serial developer who's flipped seven companies talk straight about what this business actually takes — and why neither of them can quit the rush of watching a pole go in the ground.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 13:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:summary>Grey Vick built one of the Carolinas' largest independent billboard companies from the ground up — 770+ faces, 50+ digitals — starting in 2007 with used utility poles, renegotiated loans, and bigger companies telling him he wouldn't make it. Neil and Grey trade war stories from the financial crisis, debate the real economics of easements vs. leases, and get into why long-term branding on a billboard works the way compound interest does. A builder who never sold out and a serial developer who's flipped seven companies talk straight about what this business actually takes — and why neither of them can quit the rush of watching a pole go in the ground.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Grey Vick built one of the Carolinas' largest independent billboard companies from the ground up — 770+ faces, 50+ digitals — starting in 2007 with used utility poles, renegotiated loans, and bigger companies telling him he wouldn't make it. Neil and Grey</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Episode 1 | Dave Westburg, Billboard Insider</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From commercial banker to billboard lender,operator, and publisher — Dave Westburg has built a three-legged career at the center of the out-of-home industry. </p><p>In this debut episode, Neil and Dave cover how Dave discovered OOH, why he calls it the best returns for the least risk of any media sector, what makes Billboard Insider tick, and the real talk on financing, entrepreneurship, and when to make your move.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From commercial banker to billboard lender,operator, and publisher — Dave Westburg has built a three-legged career at the center of the out-of-home industry. </p><p>In this debut episode, Neil and Dave cover how Dave discovered OOH, why he calls it the best returns for the least risk of any media sector, what makes Billboard Insider tick, and the real talk on financing, entrepreneurship, and when to make your move.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 16:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Neil Bell</author>
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      <itunes:summary>From commercial banker to billboard lender,operator, and publisher — Dave Westburg has built a three-legged career at the center of the out-of-home industry.
In this debut episode, Neil and Dave cover how Dave discovered OOH, why he calls it the best returns for the least risk of any media sector, what makes Billboard Insider tick, and the real talk on financing, entrepreneurship, and when to make your move.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>From commercial banker to billboard lender,operator, and publisher — Dave Westburg has built a three-legged career at the center of the out-of-home industry.
In this debut episode, Neil and Dave cover how Dave discovered OOH, why he calls it the best retu</itunes:subtitle>
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