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        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing isn’t about trying harder but about going deeper? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Gina Mendez talk with Hannah Cook-Kelly from Freedom Psychological Center about the slow, sacred work of healing sexual addiction and the trauma behind it. They explore denial, pride, and why real change takes years not quick fixes. They also highlight today’s reality: pornography is widely accessible, often at a young age, making it crucial for parents to have honest conversations about sexuality.</p><p>True healing means addressing your own sexual history and breaking cycles of silence and shame. You’re not alone, there is real help, and you don’t have to do this work by yourself.</p><p><a href="https://www.freedompsychcenter.com">https://www.freedompsychcenter.com</a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing isn’t about trying harder but about going deeper? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Gina Mendez talk with Hannah Cook-Kelly from Freedom Psychological Center about the slow, sacred work of healing sexual addiction and the trauma behind it. They explore denial, pride, and why real change takes years not quick fixes. They also highlight today’s reality: pornography is widely accessible, often at a young age, making it crucial for parents to have honest conversations about sexuality.</p><p>True healing means addressing your own sexual history and breaking cycles of silence and shame. You’re not alone, there is real help, and you don’t have to do this work by yourself.</p><p><a href="https://www.freedompsychcenter.com">https://www.freedompsychcenter.com</a><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>“What if you could struggle and still be loved?” </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress sit down with Laura Goodyear from Compassion Counseling to explore how faith and mental health truly intersect. Laura shares her heart for supporting Christians who feel anxious, perfectionistic, or stuck in tough relationships—and how God meets us with grace and compassion, even when we feel like we’re failing. </p><p>Tune in for an honest, hopeful conversation about trusting God, caring for your emotional health, and finding freedom in the messiness of life.                                                                               </p><p><a href="https://www.compassioncounselingaz.com/">https://www.compassioncounselingaz.com/</a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>“What if you could struggle and still be loved?” </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress sit down with Laura Goodyear from Compassion Counseling to explore how faith and mental health truly intersect. Laura shares her heart for supporting Christians who feel anxious, perfectionistic, or stuck in tough relationships—and how God meets us with grace and compassion, even when we feel like we’re failing. </p><p>Tune in for an honest, hopeful conversation about trusting God, caring for your emotional health, and finding freedom in the messiness of life.                                                                               </p><p><a href="https://www.compassioncounselingaz.com/">https://www.compassioncounselingaz.com/</a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the thing you’re most desperate for right now isn’t better advice, more discipline, or even relief but to truly be seen and wanted? </p><p>In this epidsode Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress talk with Joe Leavell, Director and Counselor of Biblical Counseling of Arizona (BCA).  So many people look put-together on the outside while quietly carrying anxiety, shame, broken relationships, or the fear that they’re too far gone to matter. </p><p>This episode explores how Christian counseling reaches deeper than behavior or coping skills by addressing the root of who we are body and soul through the lens of a God who genuinely cares about our mental and emotional health. Instead of asking, “What’s wrong with me?” the conversation shifts to, “What does God want, what do I want, and what am I settling for?” The gospel offers a different story: that God doesn’t want less from you He wants you and that truth brings freedom, security, and hope even in the hardest places of life.                     </p><p><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingaz.org/">https://www.biblicalcounselingaz.org/</a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the thing you’re most desperate for right now isn’t better advice, more discipline, or even relief but to truly be seen and wanted? </p><p>In this epidsode Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress talk with Joe Leavell, Director and Counselor of Biblical Counseling of Arizona (BCA).  So many people look put-together on the outside while quietly carrying anxiety, shame, broken relationships, or the fear that they’re too far gone to matter. </p><p>This episode explores how Christian counseling reaches deeper than behavior or coping skills by addressing the root of who we are body and soul through the lens of a God who genuinely cares about our mental and emotional health. Instead of asking, “What’s wrong with me?” the conversation shifts to, “What does God want, what do I want, and what am I settling for?” The gospel offers a different story: that God doesn’t want less from you He wants you and that truth brings freedom, security, and hope even in the hardest places of life.                     </p><p><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingaz.org/">https://www.biblicalcounselingaz.org/</a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the thing you’re most desperate for right now isn’t better advice, more discipline, or even relief but to truly be seen and wanted? </p><p>In this epidsode Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress talk with Joe Leavell, Director and Counselor of Biblical Counseling of Arizona (BCA).  So many people look put-together on the outside while quietly carrying anxiety, shame, broken relationships, or the fear that they’re too far gone to matter. </p><p>This episode explores how Christian counseling reaches deeper than behavior or coping skills by addressing the root of who we are body and soul through the lens of a God who genuinely cares about our mental and emotional health. Instead of asking, “What’s wrong with me?” the conversation shifts to, “What does God want, what do I want, and what am I settling for?” The gospel offers a different story: that God doesn’t want less from you He wants you and that truth brings freedom, security, and hope even in the hardest places of life.                     </p><p><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingaz.org/">https://www.biblicalcounselingaz.org/</a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when faith meets real-life pain—and people are brave enough to talk about it? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress sit down with Gini Larsen, Owner and Director of Biblical Hope Counseling, for a heartfelt conversation about biblical counseling and why authentic, human connection matters more than ever in a digital age. Gini shares how creating safe, nonjudgmental spaces rooted in Scripture helps people navigate church hurt, family conflict, betrayal, and emotional struggles while drawing closer to God for peace and direction. </p><p>The discussion also challenges our culture’s growing reliance on online diagnoses and AI, reminding us that true healing happens in relationship, community, and presence.                                                                                                               </p><p><a href="http://www.biblicalhopecounseling.org/counselors.html">http://www.biblicalhopecounseling.org/counselors.html</a><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when faith meets real-life pain—and people are brave enough to talk about it? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress sit down with Gini Larsen, Owner and Director of Biblical Hope Counseling, for a heartfelt conversation about biblical counseling and why authentic, human connection matters more than ever in a digital age. Gini shares how creating safe, nonjudgmental spaces rooted in Scripture helps people navigate church hurt, family conflict, betrayal, and emotional struggles while drawing closer to God for peace and direction. </p><p>The discussion also challenges our culture’s growing reliance on online diagnoses and AI, reminding us that true healing happens in relationship, community, and presence.                                                                                                               </p><p><a href="http://www.biblicalhopecounseling.org/counselors.html">http://www.biblicalhopecounseling.org/counselors.html</a><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when faith meets real-life pain—and people are brave enough to talk about it? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress sit down with Gini Larsen, Owner and Director of Biblical Hope Counseling, for a heartfelt conversation about biblical counseling and why authentic, human connection matters more than ever in a digital age. Gini shares how creating safe, nonjudgmental spaces rooted in Scripture helps people navigate church hurt, family conflict, betrayal, and emotional struggles while drawing closer to God for peace and direction. </p><p>The discussion also challenges our culture’s growing reliance on online diagnoses and AI, reminding us that true healing happens in relationship, community, and presence.                                                                                                               </p><p><a href="http://www.biblicalhopecounseling.org/counselors.html">http://www.biblicalhopecounseling.org/counselors.html</a><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>4</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing could begin with a piece of paper and a paintbrush? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Robbin Howey talk with Brittany Johnson, owner and therapist at The Well in Mesa, AZ, about how creativity can open powerful pathways to healing. They explore how art therapy helps create safety, regulate the nervous system, and express experiences that are hard to put into words. </p><p>By engaging the senses and emotions, this conversation shows how the body and brain can work together offering a refreshing, hope-filled approach to healing that goes far beyond talk alone.</p><p><a href="https://thewellmesa.com/">thewellmesa.com/<br></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing could begin with a piece of paper and a paintbrush? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Robbin Howey talk with Brittany Johnson, owner and therapist at The Well in Mesa, AZ, about how creativity can open powerful pathways to healing. They explore how art therapy helps create safety, regulate the nervous system, and express experiences that are hard to put into words. </p><p>By engaging the senses and emotions, this conversation shows how the body and brain can work together offering a refreshing, hope-filled approach to healing that goes far beyond talk alone.</p><p><a href="https://thewellmesa.com/">thewellmesa.com/<br></a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing could begin with a piece of paper and a paintbrush? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Robbin Howey talk with Brittany Johnson, owner and therapist at The Well in Mesa, AZ, about how creativity can open powerful pathways to healing. They explore how art therapy helps create safety, regulate the nervous system, and express experiences that are hard to put into words. </p><p>By engaging the senses and emotions, this conversation shows how the body and brain can work together offering a refreshing, hope-filled approach to healing that goes far beyond talk alone.</p><p><a href="https://thewellmesa.com/">thewellmesa.com/<br></a></p>]]>
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      <title>S4E6 John Hinson from Family Strategies</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the struggle you’ve kept hidden isn’t the end of your story but the beginning of real healing? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress, sit down with John Hinson who is on the executive team at Family Strategies to unpack their Sexual Addiction and Betrayal Recovery (SABR), a faith-honoring, clinically grounded program that has helped over 2,000 individuals and couples over the past 21 years. As pornography and sexual addiction rise, often beginning as early as ages 9–11, this conversation addresses the real impact of betrayal, trauma, and isolation on both men and women, and why community, responsibility, and hope matter. </p><p>We walk through the SABR program’s phased approach to education, accountability, trauma healing, and disclosure, explore how faith can be integrated without shame, and discuss why recovery is possible even when trust has been broken. </p><p>This episode offers a clear message: there is help, there is hope, and healing while hard is absolutely possible.</p><p><a href="https://familystrategies.org/">familystrategies.org/</a>                <br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the struggle you’ve kept hidden isn’t the end of your story but the beginning of real healing? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress, sit down with John Hinson who is on the executive team at Family Strategies to unpack their Sexual Addiction and Betrayal Recovery (SABR), a faith-honoring, clinically grounded program that has helped over 2,000 individuals and couples over the past 21 years. As pornography and sexual addiction rise, often beginning as early as ages 9–11, this conversation addresses the real impact of betrayal, trauma, and isolation on both men and women, and why community, responsibility, and hope matter. </p><p>We walk through the SABR program’s phased approach to education, accountability, trauma healing, and disclosure, explore how faith can be integrated without shame, and discuss why recovery is possible even when trust has been broken. </p><p>This episode offers a clear message: there is help, there is hope, and healing while hard is absolutely possible.</p><p><a href="https://familystrategies.org/">familystrategies.org/</a>                <br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the struggle you’ve kept hidden isn’t the end of your story but the beginning of real healing? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress, sit down with John Hinson who is on the executive team at Family Strategies to unpack their Sexual Addiction and Betrayal Recovery (SABR), a faith-honoring, clinically grounded program that has helped over 2,000 individuals and couples over the past 21 years. As pornography and sexual addiction rise, often beginning as early as ages 9–11, this conversation addresses the real impact of betrayal, trauma, and isolation on both men and women, and why community, responsibility, and hope matter. </p><p>We walk through the SABR program’s phased approach to education, accountability, trauma healing, and disclosure, explore how faith can be integrated without shame, and discuss why recovery is possible even when trust has been broken. </p><p>This episode offers a clear message: there is help, there is hope, and healing while hard is absolutely possible.</p><p><a href="https://familystrategies.org/">familystrategies.org/</a>                <br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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    <item>
      <title>S4E5 Pam Bonilla from Compassionate Heart Christian Counseling</title>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>4</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S4E5 Pam Bonilla from Compassionate Heart Christian Counseling</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if listening to the right sounds could calm the nervous system and bring healing to people with trauma, autism, or ADHD?</p><p>In this powerful episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Robbin Howey talk with Pam Bonilla of Compassionate Heart Christian Counseling about the Safe and Sound Protocol and other faith-based, neuroscience-backed approaches to healing children and families. Pam explains how attachment wounds, shame, and nervous system dysregulation impact behavior, anxiety, and emotional regulation. She also shares how gentle, innovative therapies help children feel safe enough to connect, engage, and thrive. </p><p>This hope-filled conversation offers a fresh perspective on moving from survival to lasting growth—for both kids and parents.</p><p><a href="https://compassionateheartcc.com">compassionateheartcc</a><br><a href="https://www.whatisthessp.com">whatisthessp</a><br></p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if listening to the right sounds could calm the nervous system and bring healing to people with trauma, autism, or ADHD?</p><p>In this powerful episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Robbin Howey talk with Pam Bonilla of Compassionate Heart Christian Counseling about the Safe and Sound Protocol and other faith-based, neuroscience-backed approaches to healing children and families. Pam explains how attachment wounds, shame, and nervous system dysregulation impact behavior, anxiety, and emotional regulation. She also shares how gentle, innovative therapies help children feel safe enough to connect, engage, and thrive. </p><p>This hope-filled conversation offers a fresh perspective on moving from survival to lasting growth—for both kids and parents.</p><p><a href="https://compassionateheartcc.com">compassionateheartcc</a><br><a href="https://www.whatisthessp.com">whatisthessp</a><br></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/f74ecf12/28e11dd4.mp3" length="80489251" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2007</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if listening to the right sounds could calm the nervous system and bring healing to people with trauma, autism, or ADHD?</p><p>In this powerful episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Robbin Howey talk with Pam Bonilla of Compassionate Heart Christian Counseling about the Safe and Sound Protocol and other faith-based, neuroscience-backed approaches to healing children and families. Pam explains how attachment wounds, shame, and nervous system dysregulation impact behavior, anxiety, and emotional regulation. She also shares how gentle, innovative therapies help children feel safe enough to connect, engage, and thrive. </p><p>This hope-filled conversation offers a fresh perspective on moving from survival to lasting growth—for both kids and parents.</p><p><a href="https://compassionateheartcc.com">compassionateheartcc</a><br><a href="https://www.whatisthessp.com">whatisthessp</a><br></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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    <item>
      <title>S4E4 Gabby DeLong from Good Works Counseling</title>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>4</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S4E4 Gabby DeLong from Good Works Counseling</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/b6c6a4bf</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if you could be confident and comfortable right where God has placed you?</p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress welcome Gabby DeLong of Goodworks Counseling for a compelling conversation about identity, trauma, DBT (which teaches skills to manage intense emotions, improve interpersonal relationships, and tolerate distress) and what real healing actually looks like. Gabby unpacks her work with women navigating life after reproductive trauma, and individuals with autism all within a faith-based counseling practice that takes insurance.</p><p>You’ll hear insights about emotions (why they matter but shouldn’t run the show), why counseling is different than talking to a friend, and how growth often shows up through discomfort.</p><p><a href="https://www.goodworkscounseling.com/">goodworkscounseling<br></a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if you could be confident and comfortable right where God has placed you?</p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress welcome Gabby DeLong of Goodworks Counseling for a compelling conversation about identity, trauma, DBT (which teaches skills to manage intense emotions, improve interpersonal relationships, and tolerate distress) and what real healing actually looks like. Gabby unpacks her work with women navigating life after reproductive trauma, and individuals with autism all within a faith-based counseling practice that takes insurance.</p><p>You’ll hear insights about emotions (why they matter but shouldn’t run the show), why counseling is different than talking to a friend, and how growth often shows up through discomfort.</p><p><a href="https://www.goodworkscounseling.com/">goodworkscounseling<br></a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/b6c6a4bf/27fc0872.mp3" length="98931793" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2468</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if you could be confident and comfortable right where God has placed you?</p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress welcome Gabby DeLong of Goodworks Counseling for a compelling conversation about identity, trauma, DBT (which teaches skills to manage intense emotions, improve interpersonal relationships, and tolerate distress) and what real healing actually looks like. Gabby unpacks her work with women navigating life after reproductive trauma, and individuals with autism all within a faith-based counseling practice that takes insurance.</p><p>You’ll hear insights about emotions (why they matter but shouldn’t run the show), why counseling is different than talking to a friend, and how growth often shows up through discomfort.</p><p><a href="https://www.goodworkscounseling.com/">goodworkscounseling<br></a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S4E3 Tony Ziolko from Reclaim Counseling</title>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>4</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S4E3 Tony Ziolko from Reclaim Counseling</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/83297277</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered why certain memories still have power over you even after years of faith, prayer, or therapy? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress, talk with Tony Ziolko, owner of Reclaim Counseling, a clinical practice rooted in gospel values and guided by the motto Restore. Rebuild. Reclaim. They serve individuals, couples, and children, focusing on trauma care using EMDR, an evidence-based therapy that helps reprocess painful memories so they no longer overwhelm the nervous system. </p><p>They discuss what EMDR looks like, what to expect during and after sessions, and why healing happens at a human pace. Ultimately, this conversation reframes therapy as a tool to help you grow bigger than your suffering and step back into the world ready to love and serve.       </p><p><a href="https://www.reclaimcounselingaz.com/">reclaimcounselingaz<br></a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered why certain memories still have power over you even after years of faith, prayer, or therapy? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress, talk with Tony Ziolko, owner of Reclaim Counseling, a clinical practice rooted in gospel values and guided by the motto Restore. Rebuild. Reclaim. They serve individuals, couples, and children, focusing on trauma care using EMDR, an evidence-based therapy that helps reprocess painful memories so they no longer overwhelm the nervous system. </p><p>They discuss what EMDR looks like, what to expect during and after sessions, and why healing happens at a human pace. Ultimately, this conversation reframes therapy as a tool to help you grow bigger than your suffering and step back into the world ready to love and serve.       </p><p><a href="https://www.reclaimcounselingaz.com/">reclaimcounselingaz<br></a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/83297277/6d9673c9.mp3" length="117123789" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2923</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Have you ever wondered why certain memories still have power over you even after years of faith, prayer, or therapy? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress, talk with Tony Ziolko, owner of Reclaim Counseling, a clinical practice rooted in gospel values and guided by the motto Restore. Rebuild. Reclaim. They serve individuals, couples, and children, focusing on trauma care using EMDR, an evidence-based therapy that helps reprocess painful memories so they no longer overwhelm the nervous system. </p><p>They discuss what EMDR looks like, what to expect during and after sessions, and why healing happens at a human pace. Ultimately, this conversation reframes therapy as a tool to help you grow bigger than your suffering and step back into the world ready to love and serve.       </p><p><a href="https://www.reclaimcounselingaz.com/">reclaimcounselingaz<br></a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S4E2 Summer Fletcher from Path Of Life Counseling</title>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>4</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S4E2 Summer Fletcher from Path Of Life Counseling</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/a1aee473</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing isn’t about fixing yourself, but about feeling safe enough to be fully human? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress talk with Summer Fletcher, owner and therapist at Path of Life Counseling in Gilbert, AZ, about how healing happens through connection, presence, and understanding the nervous system. They explore trauma-informed and somatic approaches that help people slow down, move out of survival mode, and feel safe in their bodies and relationships. </p><p>This conversation gently reframes mental health struggles as human experiences not failures and reminds us that emotions are gifts meant to be felt, not avoided.</p><p><a href="https://pathoflifeaz.com/">pathoflifeaz</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing isn’t about fixing yourself, but about feeling safe enough to be fully human? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress talk with Summer Fletcher, owner and therapist at Path of Life Counseling in Gilbert, AZ, about how healing happens through connection, presence, and understanding the nervous system. They explore trauma-informed and somatic approaches that help people slow down, move out of survival mode, and feel safe in their bodies and relationships. </p><p>This conversation gently reframes mental health struggles as human experiences not failures and reminds us that emotions are gifts meant to be felt, not avoided.</p><p><a href="https://pathoflifeaz.com/">pathoflifeaz</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2026 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/a1aee473/839c26c9.mp3" length="88608918" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2210</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if healing isn’t about fixing yourself, but about feeling safe enough to be fully human? </p><p>In this episode, Vicki Diemert and guest host Mark Andress talk with Summer Fletcher, owner and therapist at Path of Life Counseling in Gilbert, AZ, about how healing happens through connection, presence, and understanding the nervous system. They explore trauma-informed and somatic approaches that help people slow down, move out of survival mode, and feel safe in their bodies and relationships. </p><p>This conversation gently reframes mental health struggles as human experiences not failures and reminds us that emotions are gifts meant to be felt, not avoided.</p><p><a href="https://pathoflifeaz.com/">pathoflifeaz</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S4E1: Intro Episode (Gina interview's Vicki, Mark and Robbin)</title>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>4</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>1</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S4E1: Intro Episode (Gina interview's Vicki, Mark and Robbin)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/8f475e9b</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Talking To Humans Podcast is back! <br>This season, we’re kicking things off by introducing you to our host, Vicki Diemert, along with guest hosts Mark Andress and Robbin Howey. Get to know who they are, what they do at Ironwood Church, and why this podcast exists in the first place. We’ll share what this new season is all about and how we hope these conversations will encourage, connect, and serve our Ironwood community.</p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Talking To Humans Podcast is back! <br>This season, we’re kicking things off by introducing you to our host, Vicki Diemert, along with guest hosts Mark Andress and Robbin Howey. Get to know who they are, what they do at Ironwood Church, and why this podcast exists in the first place. We’ll share what this new season is all about and how we hope these conversations will encourage, connect, and serve our Ironwood community.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/8f475e9b/f7fdf310.mp3" length="88147173" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2199</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Talking To Humans Podcast is back! <br>This season, we’re kicking things off by introducing you to our host, Vicki Diemert, along with guest hosts Mark Andress and Robbin Howey. Get to know who they are, what they do at Ironwood Church, and why this podcast exists in the first place. We’ll share what this new season is all about and how we hope these conversations will encourage, connect, and serve our Ironwood community.</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S3E8: Season Finale Wrap-up</title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>3</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S3E8: Season Finale Wrap-up</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/b2c6f406</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark and Vicki discuss themes and takeaways from this season of Talking to Humans, all about conflict. </p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark and Vicki discuss themes and takeaways from this season of Talking to Humans, all about conflict. </p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/b2c6f406/6dc65115.mp3" length="42193873" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2632</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark and Vicki discuss themes and takeaways from this season of Talking to Humans, all about conflict. </p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S3E7: Boundaries w/ Gina Mendez</title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>3</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S3E7: Boundaries w/ Gina Mendez</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/8624e98d</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vicki and Mark talk with guest Gina Mendez on the importance of boundaries. What boundaries are, what it looks like to have them and hold them in a healthy way. </p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vicki and Mark talk with guest Gina Mendez on the importance of boundaries. What boundaries are, what it looks like to have them and hold them in a healthy way. </p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/8624e98d/46d9334e.mp3" length="42835983" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2673</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vicki and Mark talk with guest Gina Mendez on the importance of boundaries. What boundaries are, what it looks like to have them and hold them in a healthy way. </p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S3E6: Repentance &amp; Forgiveness pt. 2 w/ Tiffany and Dustin Marsh</title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>3</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S3E6: Repentance &amp; Forgiveness pt. 2 w/ Tiffany and Dustin Marsh</itunes:title>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/3a9e91f1</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark and guest host Gina Mendez welcome back guests Dustin and Tiffany Marsh to continue their conversation on repentance, forgiveness, and reconciliation in their own story of conflict. </p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark and guest host Gina Mendez welcome back guests Dustin and Tiffany Marsh to continue their conversation on repentance, forgiveness, and reconciliation in their own story of conflict. </p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/3a9e91f1/3d666e7d.mp3" length="44476203" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2775</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark and guest host Gina Mendez welcome back guests Dustin and Tiffany Marsh to continue their conversation on repentance, forgiveness, and reconciliation in their own story of conflict. </p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S3E5: Repentance and Forgiveness pt. 1 w/ Tiffany and Dustin Marsh</title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>3</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S3E5: Repentance and Forgiveness pt. 1 w/ Tiffany and Dustin Marsh</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/448e2037</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>This episode contains serious topics including pornography, listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Vicki and Mark talk with guests Dustin and Tiffany Marsh on the importance of repentance and forgiveness in conflict. They share their personal story of how this played out in their own marital conflict. </p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This episode contains serious topics including pornography, listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Vicki and Mark talk with guests Dustin and Tiffany Marsh on the importance of repentance and forgiveness in conflict. They share their personal story of how this played out in their own marital conflict. </p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/448e2037/6f633d14.mp3" length="43905693" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2739</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This episode contains serious topics including pornography, listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Vicki and Mark talk with guests Dustin and Tiffany Marsh on the importance of repentance and forgiveness in conflict. They share their personal story of how this played out in their own marital conflict. </p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S3E4: Listening w/ Matt Diemert</title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>3</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S3E4: Listening w/ Matt Diemert</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/e63427eb</link>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vicki and Mark talk with guest Matt Diemert on the importance of listening in conflict. We think we listen but does the other person feel heard? It takes humility to really listen.</p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vicki and Mark talk with guest Matt Diemert on the importance of listening in conflict. We think we listen but does the other person feel heard? It takes humility to really listen.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2023 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Ironwood Church</author>
      <enclosure url="https://media.transistor.fm/e63427eb/ac1eca53.mp3" length="36748863" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:author>Ironwood Church</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2292</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vicki and Mark talk with guest Matt Diemert on the importance of listening in conflict. We think we listen but does the other person feel heard? It takes humility to really listen.</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>S3E3: Ownership and Responsibility w/ Joyce and Marty Lutrey</title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <podcast:season>3</podcast:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>S3E3: Ownership and Responsibility w/ Joyce and Marty Lutrey</itunes:title>
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      <title>S3E2: Family of Origin w/ Darcy Wilcoxson</title>
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      <title>S3E1: Theology of Conflict w/ Luke Simmons</title>
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    <item>
      <title>Special Edition Episode #4 w/ Darcy Wilcoxson</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we talk all things trauma: little t trauma and Big T trauma, seeing the need behind the behavior, speaking our needs in honoring ways, being image bearers and vessels in God's hand.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we talk all things trauma: little t trauma and Big T trauma, seeing the need behind the behavior, speaking our needs in honoring ways, being image bearers and vessels in God's hand.</p>]]>
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      <title>Special Edition Episode #3 w/ Darcy Wilcoxson</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss negotiating our needs, recognizing our limits and capacity, being self aware when needs become a demand, learning to be disappointed, and working towards something vs demanding.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss negotiating our needs, recognizing our limits and capacity, being self aware when needs become a demand, learning to be disappointed, and working towards something vs demanding.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Special Edition Episode #2 w/ Darcy &amp; Jakob Wilcoxson </title>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode puts flesh on the concepts Darcy walked us through in the first episode. How do all these things play out in an actual parent child relationship? We will hear Jakob's story and experience with mental health, self harm, shame, and navigating emotions. We hear how all of these things connect with Darcy's contribution as his mom, how trust was lost and rebuilt. <br><strong>This episode contains serious topics including depression and suicide, listener discretion is advised.</strong></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode puts flesh on the concepts Darcy walked us through in the first episode. How do all these things play out in an actual parent child relationship? We will hear Jakob's story and experience with mental health, self harm, shame, and navigating emotions. We hear how all of these things connect with Darcy's contribution as his mom, how trust was lost and rebuilt. <br><strong>This episode contains serious topics including depression and suicide, listener discretion is advised.</strong></p>]]>
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      <title>Special Edition Episode #1 w/ Darcy Wilcoxson</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode is jam packed with parenting, attachment styles and understanding God's storyline for each individual within the same family. Guest, Darcy Wilcoxson, walks us through topics such as the importance of connection, are we enabling our children, earning trust, are our kids manipulating us, and helping our children process through emotions.</p>]]>
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      <title>S2E9: SEASON FINALE w/ Gina Mendez</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>SEASON 2 FINALE! In this episode, we look back on our season on Engaging Emotions, we talk through some of our highlights, some common themes, and some of our thoughts that come to mind when we think back over the past 8 episodes. Thank you so much for listening, we hoped you enjoyed this season! We will see you later!</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Continuing this series on Engaging with Emotions, we have our guest Arnold Ruiz talk us through what it looks like to engage with guilt and shame in a healthy way and how to combat the lies those emotions tell us every day. We hope you enjoy this episode! We will see you next week!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We think you guys are really going to enjoy this episode! We have John Kronwald in the studio to discuss what Love and Hate look like, how they are actually more similar than we think, and what it looks like to engage with these emotions in a healthy and biblical way! Enjoy!</p>]]>
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      <title>S2E4: Engaging with Fear w/ Jen Natzke</title>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2021 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Redemption Gateway</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this series on Engaging Emotions, we talk through the complexities that come with the emotion of "Jealousy" with our special guest Donna Kaplin! We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we enjoy making these! See you next week!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this series on Engaging Emotions, we talk through the complexities that come with the emotion of "Jealousy" with our special guest Donna Kaplin! We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we enjoy making these! See you next week!</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>In this series on Engaging Emotions, we talk through the complexities that come with the emotion of "Jealousy" with our special guest Donna Kaplin! We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we enjoy making these! See you next week!</itunes:summary>
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      <title>S2E1: Engaging with Emotions w/ Matthew Braselton</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>WE ARE BACK!! We are so excited to bring you the first episode for Season 2 of Talking to Humans! This season's theme is "Engaging with Emotions" and we kick it off by discussing with Matthew Braselton what emotions are, how we experience them differently, and how we can engage with them in a healthy way. We hope you enjoy this episode!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>WE ARE BACK!! We are so excited to bring you the first episode for Season 2 of Talking to Humans! This season's theme is "Engaging with Emotions" and we kick it off by discussing with Matthew Braselton what emotions are, how we experience them differently, and how we can engage with them in a healthy way. We hope you enjoy this episode!</p>]]>
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      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>THIS IS THE SEASON FINALE!! We have had a blast recording Season 1 and have really enjoyed the feedback from you guys! Here we recap what we heard in Season 1 and highlight some of our favorite moments. We hope you enjoy this episode, and we will see you all in Season 2!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>THIS IS THE SEASON FINALE!! We have had a blast recording Season 1 and have really enjoyed the feedback from you guys! Here we recap what we heard in Season 1 and highlight some of our favorite moments. We hope you enjoy this episode, and we will see you all in Season 2!</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>THIS IS THE SEASON FINALE!! We have had a blast recording Season 1 and have really enjoyed the feedback from you guys! Here we recap what we heard in Season 1 and highlight some of our favorite moments. We hope you enjoy this episode, and we will see you all in Season 2!</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>One of the most common phrases we hear in the Christian culture is, "God won't give you more than you can handle". And that sounds like it would be encouraging! But today, we talk about why that may not be as helpful as it seems AND why that isn't biblically correct. </p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>One of the most common phrases we hear in the Christian culture is, "God won't give you more than you can handle". And that sounds like it would be encouraging! But today, we talk about why that may not be as helpful as it seems AND why that isn't biblically correct. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>One of the most common phrases we hear in the Christian culture is, "God won't give you more than you can handle". And that sounds like it would be encouraging! But today, we talk about why that may not be as helpful as it seems AND why that isn't biblica</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Lope brings in two guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert, to discuss two very common fillers we all use in our day-to-day communication: "At least..." and "Just..." They talk about what these words mean to the person hearing them and what it means to choose silence over talking. </p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Lope brings in two guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert, to discuss two very common fillers we all use in our day-to-day communication: "At least..." and "Just..." They talk about what these words mean to the person hearing them and what it means to choose silence over talking. </p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>Dave Lope brings in two guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert, to discuss two very common fillers we all use in our day-to-day communication: "At least..." and "Just..." They talk about what these words mean to the person hearing them and what it means to choose silence over talking. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dave Lope brings in two guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert, to discuss two very common fillers we all use in our day-to-day communication: "At least..." and "Just..." They talk about what these words mean to the person hearing them and what it means t</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S1E6: "Faith Over Fear"</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"Faith over fear" is a popular phrase in the Christian community (and a best-selling sign from Hobby Lobby). Our host, Katianna Strunk, and her guests Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert talk about why this phrase may not be very helpful and how to better help those who are experiencing fear.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>"Faith over fear" is a popular phrase in the Christian community (and a best-selling sign from Hobby Lobby). Our host, Katianna Strunk, and her guests Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert talk about why this phrase may not be very helpful and how to better help</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We have all heard the phrase, "Forgive and Forget". In the moment, it may sound like good advice. But today, our host Cristina Adams will talk with our guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert about why this may not be very helpful or biblical. </p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>We have all heard the phrase, "Forgive and Forget". In the moment, it may sound like good advice. But today, our host Cristina Adams will talk with our guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert about why this may not be very helpful or biblical. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>We have all heard the phrase, "Forgive and Forget". In the moment, it may sound like good advice. But today, our host Cristina Adams will talk with our guests, Mark Andress and Vicki Diemert about why this may not be very helpful or biblical. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the popular phrase "God works all things for good" and how that may not be the best way to care for someone who is in pain! Our guests describe moments where this hurts instead of heals and some possible alternatives to better care for someone who is hurting. </p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the popular phrase "God works all things for good" and how that may not be the best way to care for someone who is in pain! Our guests describe moments where this hurts instead of heals and some possible alternatives to better care for someone who is hurting. </p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, we discuss the popular phrase "God works all things for good" and how that may not be the best way to care for someone who is in pain! Our guests describe moments where this hurts instead of heals and some possible alternatives to better care for someone who is hurting. </itunes:summary>
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      <title>S1E3: "God is In Control"</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You might have heard the phrase "God is in control". As true as this statement is, in times of pain and hurt, there might be a better way to encourage someone of God's love and care for us. </p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You might have heard the phrase "God is in control". As true as this statement is, in times of pain and hurt, there might be a better way to encourage someone of God's love and care for us. </p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>You might have heard the phrase "God is in control". As true as this statement is, in times of pain and hurt, there might be a better way to encourage someone of God's love and care for us. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>You might have heard the phrase "God is in control". As true as this statement is, in times of pain and hurt, there might be a better way to encourage someone of God's love and care for us. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>S1E2: "Give it to God"</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When someone says "Give it to God" during a painful season, this may come with some unintended hurt instead of healing. In this episode, we will talk about what this phrase means, how does this phrase make people feel, and what to say next time instead. </p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When someone says "Give it to God" during a painful season, this may come with some unintended hurt instead of healing. In this episode, we will talk about what this phrase means, how does this phrase make people feel, and what to say next time instead. </p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 17:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>Redemption Gateway</author>
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      <itunes:author>Redemption Gateway</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>When someone says "Give it to God" during a painful season, this may come with some unintended hurt instead of healing. In this episode, we will talk about what this phrase means, how does this phrase make people feel, and what to say next time instead. </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>When someone says "Give it to God" during a painful season, this may come with some unintended hurt instead of healing. In this episode, we will talk about what this phrase means, how does this phrase make people feel, and what to say next time instead. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S1E1: Meet Our Guests</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to our first episode <a href="https://emojipedia.org/party-popper/">🎉</a></p>
<p>Meet our guests on this new podcast and find out what "Talking to Humans" is all about!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to our first episode <a href="https://emojipedia.org/party-popper/">🎉</a></p>
<p>Meet our guests on this new podcast and find out what "Talking to Humans" is all about!</p>]]>
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      <itunes:author>Redemption Gateway</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to our first episode 🎉
Meet our guests on this new podcast and find out what "Talking to Humans" is all about!</itunes:summary>
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Meet our guests on this new podcast and find out what "Talking to Humans" is all about!</itunes:subtitle>
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