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        <![CDATA[<p>Talkin' S#!T is where the people behind construction, wastewater, infrastructure, and the industries that keep the world moving come to talk about what's really going on. From the job site to the office, we're having the conversations you don't always hear at the conference table, talking with contractors, operators, manufacturers, leaders, and industry characters about the work, the people, the challenges, and the wins.</p><p>This episode, host Daryl Rocheleau sits down with Jason Shriver and Rob Mayville, two of the guys he works with every day, for an unfiltered look behind the scenes of the business. They get into how the product first made its way from Canada into the US (built in Daryl's garage), the zero-failure track record after 25+ years in the ground, and why municipalities are finally moving away from sending people into confined spaces. Jason and Rob talk through the sales and marketing pivot that changed how they sell value instead of price, the early adopters versus the "five years to retirement" crowd in government work, and where they think AI and blue-collar trades are headed over the next decade.</p><p><br>Just real conversations, real stories, and a few opinions that probably should've stayed off the record. If you work in the industry, work with the industry, or just want to understand the people who keep it running, you're in the right place.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2026 13:44:40 -0700</pubDate>
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      <podcast:contentLink href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbM3wrMSnoQ">Watch on YouTube</podcast:contentLink>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Talkin' S#!T is where the people behind construction, wastewater, infrastructure, and the industries that keep the world moving come to talk about what's really going on. From the job site to the office, we're having the conversations you don't always hear at the conference table, talking with contractors, operators, manufacturers, leaders, and industry characters about the work, the people, the challenges, and the wins.</p><p>This episode, host Daryl Rocheleau sits down with Jason Shriver and Rob Mayville, two of the guys he works with every day, for an unfiltered look behind the scenes of the business. They get into how the product first made its way from Canada into the US (built in Daryl's garage), the zero-failure track record after 25+ years in the ground, and why municipalities are finally moving away from sending people into confined spaces. Jason and Rob talk through the sales and marketing pivot that changed how they sell value instead of price, the early adopters versus the "five years to retirement" crowd in government work, and where they think AI and blue-collar trades are headed over the next decade.</p><p><br>Just real conversations, real stories, and a few opinions that probably should've stayed off the record. If you work in the industry, work with the industry, or just want to understand the people who keep it running, you're in the right place.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 09:09:49 -0700</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Talkin' S#!T is where the people behind construction, wastewater, infrastructure, and the industries that keep the world moving come to talk about what's really going on. From the job site to the office, we're having the conversations you don't always hear at the conference table, talking with contractors, operators, manufacturers, leaders, and industry characters about the work, the people, the challenges, and the wins.</p><p>This episode, host Daryl Rocheleau sits down with John Naron, City Manager of Hondo, Texas. John talks through how he went from the oil field to running a city in chaos, and what it actually takes to prioritize a growing list of infrastructure needs against a budget that isn't keeping pace. He gets into the 60 water leaks a month that led him to map every pipe in the city (only to find the whole map covered in red), the pushback he gets from engineers on new products and materials, and the lessons in humility that saved the city $800,000 when he listened to a local plumber instead of sticking with the tried and true.</p><p>Just real conversations, real stories, and a few opinions that probably should've stayed off the record. If you work in the industry, work with the industry, or just want to understand the people who keep it running, you're in the right place.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Talkin' S#!T is where the people behind construction, wastewater, infrastructure, and the industries that keep the world moving come to talk about what's really going on. From the jobsite to the office, we're having the conversations you don't always hear at the conference table, talking with contractors, operators, manufacturers, leaders, and industry characters about the work, the people, the challenges, and the wins.</p><p>On this episode, host Daryl Rocheleau sits down with Keegan Jonkers of Circle C Construction out of Fort Worth, Texas. Keegan has worked his way up from the field to project manager at his family's utility construction company, which has carved out a niche doing the jobs most contractors won't touch: live sewer rehab in tight backyards and easements. Daryl and Keegan get into the lost art of wood box hand tunneling (yes, digging with spades and timbers, still happening today), what it's like crawling hundreds of feet through a 42-inch bore, salvaging century-old brick streets in historic Fort Worth, and why keeping crews local beats chasing jobs across the state. They also talk about finding the next generation of tradespeople, working with municipalities and engineers, and why staying calm beats yelling every time.</p><p>If you work in the industry, work with the industry, or just want to understand the people who keep it running, you're in the right place.</p>]]>
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