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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Amelia Wattenberger didn’t want to be a developer — both her parents were, and from the outside it looked boring. Then she accidentally built a website, and everything changed. In this conversation, she and Kent talk about why play matters more right now than productivity, what we actually lose when every project has a KPI attached, and why the most important skill in augmented development might just be knowing when to step back.</p><p>This season of Still Burning is brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://workos.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=still-burning&amp;utm_content=charity-majors">WorkOS</a> and <a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=still-burning&amp;utm_content=charity-majors">Augment Code</a>.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Charity Majors spent a year telling engineers they needed to learn to code to stay relevant. Then, in about three months, that advice became obsolete. In this conversation, she talks about why engineers who built careers on beautiful, readable code are struggling more than anyone else, why junior developers might have a hidden advantage right now, and what it means that nobody has a headstart anymore. Everybody’s ignorance has been reset to 100.</p><p>This season of Still Burning is brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://workos.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=still-burning&amp;utm_content=charity-majors">WorkOS</a> and <a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=still-burning&amp;utm_content=charity-majors">Augment Code</a>.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Charity Majors spent a year telling engineers they needed to learn to code to stay relevant. Then, in about three months, that advice became obsolete. In this conversation, she talks about why engineers who built careers on beautiful, readable code are struggling more than anyone else, why junior developers might have a hidden advantage right now, and what it means that nobody has a headstart anymore. Everybody’s ignorance has been reset to 100.</p><p>This season of Still Burning is brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://workos.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=still-burning&amp;utm_content=charity-majors">WorkOS</a> and <a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=still-burning&amp;utm_content=charity-majors">Augment Code</a>.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>Yes</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kent Beck kicks off Still Burning with a fireside manifest for geeks navigating a world that's shifted under their feet. Old skills are losing leverage, and nobody has the answers — not even the people who've been doing this for 30 years. So what do you do? You try things. You experiment cheaply. You bless and release what no longer matters. This one's for the geeks who still care and are still doing something about it.</p><p><br>This season is brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://workos.com/">WorkOS </a>and <a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/product/intent">Augment Code</a>.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kent Beck kicks off Still Burning with a fireside manifest for geeks navigating a world that's shifted under their feet. Old skills are losing leverage, and nobody has the answers — not even the people who've been doing this for 30 years. So what do you do? You try things. You experiment cheaply. You bless and release what no longer matters. This one's for the geeks who still care and are still doing something about it.</p><p><br>This season is brought to you in partnership with <a href="https://workos.com/">WorkOS </a>and <a href="https://www.augmentcode.com/product/intent">Augment Code</a>.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 11:15:00 -0100</pubDate>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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