Spiritual, Not Religious Transistor (https://transistor.fm) https://feeds.transistor.fm/spiritual-not-religious We are a  podcast for young adults; we explore the intricacies of spirituality and religion in our world. We are creating a space for young people to come as they are, to listen with intention, and to discover divinity within themselves.  © 2026 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 45d4dd5c-77f2-557f-9877-c6f254b7b2a0 no Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry en Wed, 29 Apr 2026 08:00:12 -0400 Wed, 29 Apr 2026 08:02:18 -0400 https://img.transistorcdn.com/Zn61b-5IMo5Y96-CnVfNzbGF4MIN3HwwVdmU8atN6Z4/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS84MmM4/N2MxMWM1OTYyMGVm/MDU1ZWY3YjkxNTVi/NDQ1MS5qcGVn.jpg Spiritual, Not Religious episodic Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry We are a  podcast for young adults; we explore the intricacies of spirituality and religion in our world. We are creating a space for young people to come as they are, to listen with intention, and to discover divinity within themselves.  We are a  podcast for young adults; we explore the intricacies of spirituality and religion in our world. spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z James Henry No No Fear the World or Love Your Neighbor? 18 18 Fear the World or Love Your Neighbor? full a8630e28-e622-44d3-8cb4-9c9511d85ddb https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/18 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, James, and Mollie explore the “gospel of fear” that often shapes culture, politics, and faith communities—and why that message can be especially harmful for young and emerging adults. Together, they reflect on the difference between healthy fear and controlling fear, the ways fear can divide us into “us” and “them,” and how Jesus continually calls people beyond suspicion into compassion, relationship, and love. The conversation invites listeners to notice when fear rises, question where it comes from, and choose a faith rooted not in anxiety or control, but in neighbor-love, grace, and the deep truth that we are infinitely precious and unconditionally loved.

]]> In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, James, and Mollie explore the “gospel of fear” that often shapes culture, politics, and faith communities—and why that message can be especially harmful for young and emerging adults. Together, they reflect on the difference between healthy fear and controlling fear, the ways fear can divide us into “us” and “them,” and how Jesus continually calls people beyond suspicion into compassion, relationship, and love. The conversation invites listeners to notice when fear rises, question where it comes from, and choose a faith rooted not in anxiety or control, but in neighbor-love, grace, and the deep truth that we are infinitely precious and unconditionally loved.

]]> Wed, 29 Apr 2026 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3911 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, James, and Mollie explore the “gospel of fear” that often shapes culture, politics, and faith communities—and why that message can be especially harmful for young and emerging adults. Together, they reflect on the difference between healthy fear and controlling fear, the ways fear can divide us into “us” and “them,” and how Jesus continually calls people beyond suspicion into compassion, relationship, and love. The conversation invites listeners to notice when fear rises, question where it comes from, and choose a faith rooted not in anxiety or control, but in neighbor-love, grace, and the deep truth that we are infinitely precious and unconditionally loved.

]]> fear and faith, spiritual not religious, young adults and faith, gospel of fear, love your neighbor, faith deconstruction, Christian podcast, fear the world church, love your neighbor church, anxiety and spirituality, progressive Christianity, faith and compassion, Jesus and fear, religious trauma, Methodist podcast No Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry Vulnerability and the Church 17 17 Vulnerability and the Church full 862d1947-903c-4d44-a088-13ada43d8a70 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/17 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, James, and Mollie explore the complicated but deeply important topic of vulnerability, especially within faith communities. Together they reflect on how churches often fail to feel like safe places for honesty, with James and Shawn sharing personal experiences of church environments where openness felt risky rather than healing, while Mollie names the real harm that can happen when vulnerability is mishandled. The conversation highlights how trust, authenticity, empathy, and healthy boundaries are essential for any community that hopes to hold people well. Drawing on scripture, pastoral experience, campus ministry, and recovery-group insights, they suggest that true vulnerability usually grows not in large public spaces but in smaller, trusted relationships where people are met with grace rather than shame. Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners not to give up on seeking spiritual community, but to look carefully for people and places where honesty is welcomed, healing is possible, and love is real.

]]> In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, James, and Mollie explore the complicated but deeply important topic of vulnerability, especially within faith communities. Together they reflect on how churches often fail to feel like safe places for honesty, with James and Shawn sharing personal experiences of church environments where openness felt risky rather than healing, while Mollie names the real harm that can happen when vulnerability is mishandled. The conversation highlights how trust, authenticity, empathy, and healthy boundaries are essential for any community that hopes to hold people well. Drawing on scripture, pastoral experience, campus ministry, and recovery-group insights, they suggest that true vulnerability usually grows not in large public spaces but in smaller, trusted relationships where people are met with grace rather than shame. Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners not to give up on seeking spiritual community, but to look carefully for people and places where honesty is welcomed, healing is possible, and love is real.

]]> Wed, 01 Apr 2026 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3621 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, James, and Mollie explore the complicated but deeply important topic of vulnerability, especially within faith communities. Together they reflect on how churches often fail to feel like safe places for honesty, with James and Shawn sharing personal experiences of church environments where openness felt risky rather than healing, while Mollie names the real harm that can happen when vulnerability is mishandled. The conversation highlights how trust, authenticity, empathy, and healthy boundaries are essential for any community that hopes to hold people well. Drawing on scripture, pastoral experience, campus ministry, and recovery-group insights, they suggest that true vulnerability usually grows not in large public spaces but in smaller, trusted relationships where people are met with grace rather than shame. Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners not to give up on seeking spiritual community, but to look carefully for people and places where honesty is welcomed, healing is possible, and love is real.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry When Welcome Has Fine Print 16 16 When Welcome Has Fine Print full 08124a91-23f1-4be8-baa4-ffb01927ee25 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/16 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, Mollie, and James explore the “mismatched messages” many people—especially young adults—receive from faith communities: a proclaimed gospel of love, hope, and welcome paired with exclusion, judgment, and rejection. Using real examples (including LGBTQ+ inclusion, “love the sinner/hate the sin,” Christian nationalism, and nostalgia for a “golden age” church), they discuss how these contradictions dehumanize people and push seekers away from church and even from God. The conversation lifts up the importance of seeing the Imago Dei(the image of God) in every person, practicing nonviolent truth-telling, and choosing “the practice of the better” rather than condemnation—grounding faith in compassion, listening, and humble self-examination. They close by inviting listeners to use Lent (or any season) as a time of realignment—returning to Scripture, prayer, and inner centeredness—so our lives and communities embody the love we claim to proclaim.

]]> In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, Mollie, and James explore the “mismatched messages” many people—especially young adults—receive from faith communities: a proclaimed gospel of love, hope, and welcome paired with exclusion, judgment, and rejection. Using real examples (including LGBTQ+ inclusion, “love the sinner/hate the sin,” Christian nationalism, and nostalgia for a “golden age” church), they discuss how these contradictions dehumanize people and push seekers away from church and even from God. The conversation lifts up the importance of seeing the Imago Dei(the image of God) in every person, practicing nonviolent truth-telling, and choosing “the practice of the better” rather than condemnation—grounding faith in compassion, listening, and humble self-examination. They close by inviting listeners to use Lent (or any season) as a time of realignment—returning to Scripture, prayer, and inner centeredness—so our lives and communities embody the love we claim to proclaim.

]]> Wed, 04 Mar 2026 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 4005 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, Mollie, and James explore the “mismatched messages” many people—especially young adults—receive from faith communities: a proclaimed gospel of love, hope, and welcome paired with exclusion, judgment, and rejection. Using real examples (including LGBTQ+ inclusion, “love the sinner/hate the sin,” Christian nationalism, and nostalgia for a “golden age” church), they discuss how these contradictions dehumanize people and push seekers away from church and even from God. The conversation lifts up the importance of seeing the Imago Dei(the image of God) in every person, practicing nonviolent truth-telling, and choosing “the practice of the better” rather than condemnation—grounding faith in compassion, listening, and humble self-examination. They close by inviting listeners to use Lent (or any season) as a time of realignment—returning to Scripture, prayer, and inner centeredness—so our lives and communities embody the love we claim to proclaim.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry Shame, Guilt, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves- Part 2 15 15 Shame, Guilt, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves- Part 2 full f2f7d1c4-d4b1-4138-af24-21207dfbc78d https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/15 In “Guilt, Shame, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves — Part 2,” the Spiritual Not Religious team continues their deep dive into the difference between guilt and shame and explores how the church has sometimes used both for formation—and, at times, for control. Drawing on insights from Brené Brown and faith-based counseling language that frames guilt as conviction and shame as condemnation, the conversation traces these dynamics through biblical stories like Genesis and Jesus’ response to the woman caught in adultery. Along the way, Shawn, James, and Mollie reflect on personal experiences of “church hurt,” the role of vulnerability and safe community in healing, and why religious culture so often fixates on sexuality. The episode closes with a hopeful reminder: we are not defined by our worst moments, and the path forward is rooted in truth, grace, and belovedness.

]]> In “Guilt, Shame, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves — Part 2,” the Spiritual Not Religious team continues their deep dive into the difference between guilt and shame and explores how the church has sometimes used both for formation—and, at times, for control. Drawing on insights from Brené Brown and faith-based counseling language that frames guilt as conviction and shame as condemnation, the conversation traces these dynamics through biblical stories like Genesis and Jesus’ response to the woman caught in adultery. Along the way, Shawn, James, and Mollie reflect on personal experiences of “church hurt,” the role of vulnerability and safe community in healing, and why religious culture so often fixates on sexuality. The episode closes with a hopeful reminder: we are not defined by our worst moments, and the path forward is rooted in truth, grace, and belovedness.

]]> Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3783 In “Guilt, Shame, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves — Part 2,” the Spiritual Not Religious team continues their deep dive into the difference between guilt and shame and explores how the church has sometimes used both for formation—and, at times, for control. Drawing on insights from Brené Brown and faith-based counseling language that frames guilt as conviction and shame as condemnation, the conversation traces these dynamics through biblical stories like Genesis and Jesus’ response to the woman caught in adultery. Along the way, Shawn, James, and Mollie reflect on personal experiences of “church hurt,” the role of vulnerability and safe community in healing, and why religious culture so often fixates on sexuality. The episode closes with a hopeful reminder: we are not defined by our worst moments, and the path forward is rooted in truth, grace, and belovedness.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry Guilt, Shame, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves- Part 1 14 14 Guilt, Shame, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves- Part 1 full 05b3d3fb-e825-4678-8cf3-e274037c459d https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/14 In this first episode of a two-part series, the Spiritual Not Religious crew explores the difference between guilt and shame—and why confusing them can quietly shape our identity, relationships, and mental health. Guilt tends to focus on behavior (“I did something bad”) and can open a path toward honesty, repair, and growth. Shame sinks deeper (“I am bad”) and often thrives in secrecy, people-pleasing, defensiveness, and harsh self-talk. Along the way, the hosts reflect on how shame can become trauma, why naming what we feel gives us power, and how empathy and safe community can shrink shame’s grip. Part two will look more directly at how religion and the church have used guilt and shame historically—and what healing might look like now.

]]> In this first episode of a two-part series, the Spiritual Not Religious crew explores the difference between guilt and shame—and why confusing them can quietly shape our identity, relationships, and mental health. Guilt tends to focus on behavior (“I did something bad”) and can open a path toward honesty, repair, and growth. Shame sinks deeper (“I am bad”) and often thrives in secrecy, people-pleasing, defensiveness, and harsh self-talk. Along the way, the hosts reflect on how shame can become trauma, why naming what we feel gives us power, and how empathy and safe community can shrink shame’s grip. Part two will look more directly at how religion and the church have used guilt and shame historically—and what healing might look like now.

]]> Wed, 28 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3533 In this first episode of a two-part series, the Spiritual Not Religious crew explores the difference between guilt and shame—and why confusing them can quietly shape our identity, relationships, and mental health. Guilt tends to focus on behavior (“I did something bad”) and can open a path toward honesty, repair, and growth. Shame sinks deeper (“I am bad”) and often thrives in secrecy, people-pleasing, defensiveness, and harsh self-talk. Along the way, the hosts reflect on how shame can become trauma, why naming what we feel gives us power, and how empathy and safe community can shrink shame’s grip. Part two will look more directly at how religion and the church have used guilt and shame historically—and what healing might look like now.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry Safe Enough to Ask: Making Room for Gen Z’s Doubts 13 13 Safe Enough to Ask: Making Room for Gen Z’s Doubts full e9f3d442-fdc9-47fd-8487-d952d76c2413 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/13 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller Bachman, and cohost James Henry sit down with Dr. Tanita Maddox (Young Life’s National Director for Generational Impact and a Gen Z researcher) to explore insights from her book What Gen Z Really Wants to Know About God. With warmth and humor (including a memorable “Ghostbusters of hot chocolate” backpack), Tanita shares how her decades in youth ministry led her to realize Gen Z isn’t “harder” so much as living in a different world—marked by anxiety, suffering on constant display through digital media, and a pervasive low-trust culture. The conversation centers on why Gen Z’s questions—like “Is God good?” “Do all people matter?” and “What is true?”—must be heard through their lived experience rather than answered with quick clichés, emphasizing the need for presence, humility, and genuine listening. Tanita and the hosts unpack “contextualizing the gospel” as an unavoidable (and necessary) practice, critique the church’s tendency to rely on “high-trust” assumptions in a low-trust era, and reflect on how Jesus models love over being “right.” The episode closes with practical encouragement for welcoming Gen Z—making space for doubt, taking small relational risks, and trusting that God can handle honest wrestling—along with ways to connect with Tanita and the podcast team.

]]> In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller Bachman, and cohost James Henry sit down with Dr. Tanita Maddox (Young Life’s National Director for Generational Impact and a Gen Z researcher) to explore insights from her book What Gen Z Really Wants to Know About God. With warmth and humor (including a memorable “Ghostbusters of hot chocolate” backpack), Tanita shares how her decades in youth ministry led her to realize Gen Z isn’t “harder” so much as living in a different world—marked by anxiety, suffering on constant display through digital media, and a pervasive low-trust culture. The conversation centers on why Gen Z’s questions—like “Is God good?” “Do all people matter?” and “What is true?”—must be heard through their lived experience rather than answered with quick clichés, emphasizing the need for presence, humility, and genuine listening. Tanita and the hosts unpack “contextualizing the gospel” as an unavoidable (and necessary) practice, critique the church’s tendency to rely on “high-trust” assumptions in a low-trust era, and reflect on how Jesus models love over being “right.” The episode closes with practical encouragement for welcoming Gen Z—making space for doubt, taking small relational risks, and trusting that God can handle honest wrestling—along with ways to connect with Tanita and the podcast team.

]]> Wed, 07 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3617 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller Bachman, and cohost James Henry sit down with Dr. Tanita Maddox (Young Life’s National Director for Generational Impact and a Gen Z researcher) to explore insights from her book What Gen Z Really Wants to Know About God. With warmth and humor (including a memorable “Ghostbusters of hot chocolate” backpack), Tanita shares how her decades in youth ministry led her to realize Gen Z isn’t “harder” so much as living in a different world—marked by anxiety, suffering on constant display through digital media, and a pervasive low-trust culture. The conversation centers on why Gen Z’s questions—like “Is God good?” “Do all people matter?” and “What is true?”—must be heard through their lived experience rather than answered with quick clichés, emphasizing the need for presence, humility, and genuine listening. Tanita and the hosts unpack “contextualizing the gospel” as an unavoidable (and necessary) practice, critique the church’s tendency to rely on “high-trust” assumptions in a low-trust era, and reflect on how Jesus models love over being “right.” The episode closes with practical encouragement for welcoming Gen Z—making space for doubt, taking small relational risks, and trusting that God can handle honest wrestling—along with ways to connect with Tanita and the podcast team.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn James Henry Thankful for Doubt: When Questions Deepen Faith 12 12 Thankful for Doubt: When Questions Deepen Faith full 01c17794-4a21-46ad-bf8b-0aba408e5744 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/12 The hosts of Spiritual, Not Religious return from a two-month hiatus with a Thanksgiving-week conversation about being grateful for doubt. Shawn, James, and Mollie swap stories from their own faith upbringings—where questions were sometimes discouraged—and contrast that with the safe, curious spaces they now try to create for young and emerging adults. Drawing on biblical examples (Thomas, Peter, Job, the psalmists, Jacob, Abraham, Isaiah) and Kathleen Norris’ reminder that belief is a process rather than a product, they explore how honest questions, spiritual wrestling, and even anger at God can deepen rather than destroy faith. They talk about doubt as relational risk, a way of giving your heart—not just your head—to God, and encourage listeners to find trusted companions who can hold their questions without shame. The episode closes with the simple prayer, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief,” as a blessing for anyone navigating seasons of uncertainty.

]]> The hosts of Spiritual, Not Religious return from a two-month hiatus with a Thanksgiving-week conversation about being grateful for doubt. Shawn, James, and Mollie swap stories from their own faith upbringings—where questions were sometimes discouraged—and contrast that with the safe, curious spaces they now try to create for young and emerging adults. Drawing on biblical examples (Thomas, Peter, Job, the psalmists, Jacob, Abraham, Isaiah) and Kathleen Norris’ reminder that belief is a process rather than a product, they explore how honest questions, spiritual wrestling, and even anger at God can deepen rather than destroy faith. They talk about doubt as relational risk, a way of giving your heart—not just your head—to God, and encourage listeners to find trusted companions who can hold their questions without shame. The episode closes with the simple prayer, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief,” as a blessing for anyone navigating seasons of uncertainty.

]]> Wed, 26 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3577 The hosts of Spiritual, Not Religious return from a two-month hiatus with a Thanksgiving-week conversation about being grateful for doubt. Shawn, James, and Mollie swap stories from their own faith upbringings—where questions were sometimes discouraged—and contrast that with the safe, curious spaces they now try to create for young and emerging adults. Drawing on biblical examples (Thomas, Peter, Job, the psalmists, Jacob, Abraham, Isaiah) and Kathleen Norris’ reminder that belief is a process rather than a product, they explore how honest questions, spiritual wrestling, and even anger at God can deepen rather than destroy faith. They talk about doubt as relational risk, a way of giving your heart—not just your head—to God, and encourage listeners to find trusted companions who can hold their questions without shame. The episode closes with the simple prayer, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief,” as a blessing for anyone navigating seasons of uncertainty.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Everyday Faith: Beyond the Sunday Box 11 11 Everyday Faith: Beyond the Sunday Box full 56a5ffec-3c61-4178-9796-5b5ae5369b7a https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/11 In this eleventh episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, Mollie, and James explore why many young people say faith matters yet struggle to let it shape everyday choices. Drawing on campus ministry experience, Aramaic insights about wholeness and “shalom,” and the fruit of the Spirit, they contrast “looking spiritual” with actually loving people in concrete ways—kindness, courage, and integrity when it’s inconvenient. They unpack the tension between fitting in and standing out, the trap of compartmentalizing faith to Sundays, and how practices (do no harm, do good, and keep close to God) gradually ripen character. The episode lands with practical nudges—resist gossip, befriend “the other,” and carry grace into ordinary spaces—because you’re infinitely precious and made to live this love all week long.

]]> In this eleventh episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, Mollie, and James explore why many young people say faith matters yet struggle to let it shape everyday choices. Drawing on campus ministry experience, Aramaic insights about wholeness and “shalom,” and the fruit of the Spirit, they contrast “looking spiritual” with actually loving people in concrete ways—kindness, courage, and integrity when it’s inconvenient. They unpack the tension between fitting in and standing out, the trap of compartmentalizing faith to Sundays, and how practices (do no harm, do good, and keep close to God) gradually ripen character. The episode lands with practical nudges—resist gossip, befriend “the other,” and carry grace into ordinary spaces—because you’re infinitely precious and made to live this love all week long.

]]> Wed, 01 Oct 2025 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3433 In this eleventh episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, Shawn, Mollie, and James explore why many young people say faith matters yet struggle to let it shape everyday choices. Drawing on campus ministry experience, Aramaic insights about wholeness and “shalom,” and the fruit of the Spirit, they contrast “looking spiritual” with actually loving people in concrete ways—kindness, courage, and integrity when it’s inconvenient. They unpack the tension between fitting in and standing out, the trap of compartmentalizing faith to Sundays, and how practices (do no harm, do good, and keep close to God) gradually ripen character. The episode lands with practical nudges—resist gossip, befriend “the other,” and carry grace into ordinary spaces—because you’re infinitely precious and made to live this love all week long.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Worship, Discipleship, and the Way of Jesus 10 10 Worship, Discipleship, and the Way of Jesus full 52e7df06-74e0-4902-a202-cbcb4b6c7f81 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/10 In this tenth episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, James Henry, and Mollie June Miller Bachman welcome their very first guest, Bridget Williams, for a thoughtful conversation on the tension between following Jesus’ teachings and worshiping him. Bridget shares her spiritual journey from a Catholic upbringing to her current work with Appalachia Service Project in Kentucky, highlighting her exploration of diverse worship traditions. The group discusses how elevating Jesus too highly can make his example seem unattainable, whereas his life was meant to model a way of living accessible to all. Together they reflect on worship as more than weekly rituals—seeing it as awe, surrender, and alignment with God’s presence in daily life—and explore how spirituality can be lived out in community, service, and ordinary moments. The episode underscores the challenges and opportunities young adults face in reconciling faith, authenticity, and practice, while affirming that worship can take many forms grounded in love, presence, and action.

]]> In this tenth episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, James Henry, and Mollie June Miller Bachman welcome their very first guest, Bridget Williams, for a thoughtful conversation on the tension between following Jesus’ teachings and worshiping him. Bridget shares her spiritual journey from a Catholic upbringing to her current work with Appalachia Service Project in Kentucky, highlighting her exploration of diverse worship traditions. The group discusses how elevating Jesus too highly can make his example seem unattainable, whereas his life was meant to model a way of living accessible to all. Together they reflect on worship as more than weekly rituals—seeing it as awe, surrender, and alignment with God’s presence in daily life—and explore how spirituality can be lived out in community, service, and ordinary moments. The episode underscores the challenges and opportunities young adults face in reconciling faith, authenticity, and practice, while affirming that worship can take many forms grounded in love, presence, and action.

]]> Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3536 In this tenth episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, James Henry, and Mollie June Miller Bachman welcome their very first guest, Bridget Williams, for a thoughtful conversation on the tension between following Jesus’ teachings and worshiping him. Bridget shares her spiritual journey from a Catholic upbringing to her current work with Appalachia Service Project in Kentucky, highlighting her exploration of diverse worship traditions. The group discusses how elevating Jesus too highly can make his example seem unattainable, whereas his life was meant to model a way of living accessible to all. Together they reflect on worship as more than weekly rituals—seeing it as awe, surrender, and alignment with God’s presence in daily life—and explore how spirituality can be lived out in community, service, and ordinary moments. The episode underscores the challenges and opportunities young adults face in reconciling faith, authenticity, and practice, while affirming that worship can take many forms grounded in love, presence, and action.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Denominations and the Search for Belonging 9 9 Denominations and the Search for Belonging full ed4fcf71-2eb2-499d-914c-0f60c52ddbc9 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/9 WE'RE BACK AND GLAD TO BE! In this thoughtful and spirited episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts James, Mollie, and Shawn return after a springtime hiatus to explore the question that often confuses and overwhelms emerging adults: why are there so many Christian denominations, and do they help or hinder our spiritual growth? Reflecting on their own transitions—James’s move to a new church, Mollie’s recent marriage and upcoming travels—they dive into a heartfelt conversation about faith, identity, and the search for meaningful community. The trio examines the roots of denominational differences, the role of doctrine and tradition, and the importance of humility, compassion, and belonging in spiritual spaces. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to trust their spiritual instincts, seek out communities where they feel loved and challenged to grow, and embrace the beautiful diversity of ways people encounter God.

]]> WE'RE BACK AND GLAD TO BE! In this thoughtful and spirited episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts James, Mollie, and Shawn return after a springtime hiatus to explore the question that often confuses and overwhelms emerging adults: why are there so many Christian denominations, and do they help or hinder our spiritual growth? Reflecting on their own transitions—James’s move to a new church, Mollie’s recent marriage and upcoming travels—they dive into a heartfelt conversation about faith, identity, and the search for meaningful community. The trio examines the roots of denominational differences, the role of doctrine and tradition, and the importance of humility, compassion, and belonging in spiritual spaces. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to trust their spiritual instincts, seek out communities where they feel loved and challenged to grow, and embrace the beautiful diversity of ways people encounter God.

]]> Wed, 16 Jul 2025 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3269 WE'RE BACK AND GLAD TO BE! In this thoughtful and spirited episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts James, Mollie, and Shawn return after a springtime hiatus to explore the question that often confuses and overwhelms emerging adults: why are there so many Christian denominations, and do they help or hinder our spiritual growth? Reflecting on their own transitions—James’s move to a new church, Mollie’s recent marriage and upcoming travels—they dive into a heartfelt conversation about faith, identity, and the search for meaningful community. The trio examines the roots of denominational differences, the role of doctrine and tradition, and the importance of humility, compassion, and belonging in spiritual spaces. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to trust their spiritual instincts, seek out communities where they feel loved and challenged to grow, and embrace the beautiful diversity of ways people encounter God.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Contemplative Practices for Real Life 8 8 Contemplative Practices for Real Life full 3500e03c-b79f-4c15-a53c-1c90c38e7f0b https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/8 In this heartfelt and often humorous episode of Spiritual Not Religious, hosts James Henry, Mollie June Miller, and Shawn Winburn dive deep into the power and accessibility of contemplative spiritual practices—especially for young and emerging adults navigating chaotic transitions and soul-deep questions. From centering prayer to breath work, yoga, journaling, and sacred word meditation, the trio shares personal stories and practical tools for grounding in God’s presence amid the noise of daily life. They introduce the concepts of consolation and desolation, encouraging listeners to embrace both as part of the spiritual path, and remind us that there’s no one-size-fits-all practice—only a deep invitation to explore what anchors you. Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed, curious, or spiritually stuck, this episode offers grace, guidance, and an open door into deeper connection with the Divine.

]]> In this heartfelt and often humorous episode of Spiritual Not Religious, hosts James Henry, Mollie June Miller, and Shawn Winburn dive deep into the power and accessibility of contemplative spiritual practices—especially for young and emerging adults navigating chaotic transitions and soul-deep questions. From centering prayer to breath work, yoga, journaling, and sacred word meditation, the trio shares personal stories and practical tools for grounding in God’s presence amid the noise of daily life. They introduce the concepts of consolation and desolation, encouraging listeners to embrace both as part of the spiritual path, and remind us that there’s no one-size-fits-all practice—only a deep invitation to explore what anchors you. Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed, curious, or spiritually stuck, this episode offers grace, guidance, and an open door into deeper connection with the Divine.

]]> Wed, 07 May 2025 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 4628 In this heartfelt and often humorous episode of Spiritual Not Religious, hosts James Henry, Mollie June Miller, and Shawn Winburn dive deep into the power and accessibility of contemplative spiritual practices—especially for young and emerging adults navigating chaotic transitions and soul-deep questions. From centering prayer to breath work, yoga, journaling, and sacred word meditation, the trio shares personal stories and practical tools for grounding in God’s presence amid the noise of daily life. They introduce the concepts of consolation and desolation, encouraging listeners to embrace both as part of the spiritual path, and remind us that there’s no one-size-fits-all practice—only a deep invitation to explore what anchors you. Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed, curious, or spiritually stuck, this episode offers grace, guidance, and an open door into deeper connection with the Divine.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Failure to Launch? 7 7 Failure to Launch? full 46b5f697-4567-4180-822b-c911f7530b68 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/7 In this heartfelt and engaging episode, hosts James, Mollie, and Shawn explore the complexities facing young and emerging adults as they navigate the uncertain terrain of calling, purpose, and expectations. With honesty and humor, they reflect on cultural pressures around success, the challenges of student debt and cost of living, and the misconception that not having it all figured out by your 20s means you’ve somehow failed. Through storytelling, stats, and spiritual reflection, the trio reframes “failure to launch” as an invitation to redefine success, honor personal timing, and embrace the slow unfolding of one’s unique path. Whether you’re a young adult, a parent, or a mentor, this episode offers wisdom, encouragement, and a reminder: you are already enough—and nothing less than love can define you.

]]> In this heartfelt and engaging episode, hosts James, Mollie, and Shawn explore the complexities facing young and emerging adults as they navigate the uncertain terrain of calling, purpose, and expectations. With honesty and humor, they reflect on cultural pressures around success, the challenges of student debt and cost of living, and the misconception that not having it all figured out by your 20s means you’ve somehow failed. Through storytelling, stats, and spiritual reflection, the trio reframes “failure to launch” as an invitation to redefine success, honor personal timing, and embrace the slow unfolding of one’s unique path. Whether you’re a young adult, a parent, or a mentor, this episode offers wisdom, encouragement, and a reminder: you are already enough—and nothing less than love can define you.

]]> Wed, 16 Apr 2025 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3831 In this heartfelt and engaging episode, hosts James, Mollie, and Shawn explore the complexities facing young and emerging adults as they navigate the uncertain terrain of calling, purpose, and expectations. With honesty and humor, they reflect on cultural pressures around success, the challenges of student debt and cost of living, and the misconception that not having it all figured out by your 20s means you’ve somehow failed. Through storytelling, stats, and spiritual reflection, the trio reframes “failure to launch” as an invitation to redefine success, honor personal timing, and embrace the slow unfolding of one’s unique path. Whether you’re a young adult, a parent, or a mentor, this episode offers wisdom, encouragement, and a reminder: you are already enough—and nothing less than love can define you.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Faith in Action: How Young Adults Are Redefining Spirituality 6 6 Faith in Action: How Young Adults Are Redefining Spirituality full 098ee18e-0550-4984-84c5-8c9e2e1409b9 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/6 The podcast episode of Spiritual Not Religious explores the deep spiritual longings of young adults and their evolving relationship with faith and church. Hosts Shawn, Mollie, and James discuss a recent study from Faith for Exiles that identifies three key desires among emerging adults: a faith that connects with their world, a belief that God is more active outside traditional church walls, and a desire to live out their faith without withdrawing from society. They reflect on how Jesus modeled an engaged, mission-driven life and how many young adults resonate more with hands-on service, justice, and community action than institutional religion. The conversation touches on issues like authenticity, the need for tangible faith expression, and the church’s role in bridging divides rather than reinforcing them. Ultimately, the hosts encourage listeners to seek a faith rooted in love, action, and belonging, while inviting further discussion through social media and email.

]]> The podcast episode of Spiritual Not Religious explores the deep spiritual longings of young adults and their evolving relationship with faith and church. Hosts Shawn, Mollie, and James discuss a recent study from Faith for Exiles that identifies three key desires among emerging adults: a faith that connects with their world, a belief that God is more active outside traditional church walls, and a desire to live out their faith without withdrawing from society. They reflect on how Jesus modeled an engaged, mission-driven life and how many young adults resonate more with hands-on service, justice, and community action than institutional religion. The conversation touches on issues like authenticity, the need for tangible faith expression, and the church’s role in bridging divides rather than reinforcing them. Ultimately, the hosts encourage listeners to seek a faith rooted in love, action, and belonging, while inviting further discussion through social media and email.

]]> Wed, 19 Mar 2025 08:00:00 -0400 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 4153 The podcast episode of Spiritual Not Religious explores the deep spiritual longings of young adults and their evolving relationship with faith and church. Hosts Shawn, Mollie, and James discuss a recent study from Faith for Exiles that identifies three key desires among emerging adults: a faith that connects with their world, a belief that God is more active outside traditional church walls, and a desire to live out their faith without withdrawing from society. They reflect on how Jesus modeled an engaged, mission-driven life and how many young adults resonate more with hands-on service, justice, and community action than institutional religion. The conversation touches on issues like authenticity, the need for tangible faith expression, and the church’s role in bridging divides rather than reinforcing them. Ultimately, the hosts encourage listeners to seek a faith rooted in love, action, and belonging, while inviting further discussion through social media and email.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Roadblocks 5 5 Roadblocks full 30512ce2-cc70-487b-87f4-9e12bffa5fe7 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/5 In this episode of Spiritual Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry dive into the roadblocks that hinder faith journeys, particularly for young adults navigating spirituality outside traditional religious spaces. They discuss how rigid theology, church hurt, and institutional barriers often push the spiritually curious away—and explore ways to reimagine faith communities as spaces of openness, belonging, and authentic conversation. Drawing from personal experiences, theological reflections, and insights from authors like Mark Matlock and Michael Beck, they challenge the church to shift from exclusionary practices to an invitational model of faith. Join the conversation as they unpack what it means to cultivate a spiritual “garden” where doubt, curiosity, and deep questions are embraced rather than dismissed.

]]> In this episode of Spiritual Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry dive into the roadblocks that hinder faith journeys, particularly for young adults navigating spirituality outside traditional religious spaces. They discuss how rigid theology, church hurt, and institutional barriers often push the spiritually curious away—and explore ways to reimagine faith communities as spaces of openness, belonging, and authentic conversation. Drawing from personal experiences, theological reflections, and insights from authors like Mark Matlock and Michael Beck, they challenge the church to shift from exclusionary practices to an invitational model of faith. Join the conversation as they unpack what it means to cultivate a spiritual “garden” where doubt, curiosity, and deep questions are embraced rather than dismissed.

]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2025 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 4306 In this episode of Spiritual Not Religious, hosts Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry dive into the roadblocks that hinder faith journeys, particularly for young adults navigating spirituality outside traditional religious spaces. They discuss how rigid theology, church hurt, and institutional barriers often push the spiritually curious away—and explore ways to reimagine faith communities as spaces of openness, belonging, and authentic conversation. Drawing from personal experiences, theological reflections, and insights from authors like Mark Matlock and Michael Beck, they challenge the church to shift from exclusionary practices to an invitational model of faith. Join the conversation as they unpack what it means to cultivate a spiritual “garden” where doubt, curiosity, and deep questions are embraced rather than dismissed.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Who Is God? 4 4 Who Is God? full 82332fb6-10ba-487b-b6d1-cff5f74c5b3a https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/4 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Mollie June Miller, Shawn Winburn, and James Henry dive into one of the most foundational and complex topics in faith: Who is God? They explore how our understanding of God shapes every other relationship in our lives, drawing from a thought-provoking quote by Pastor Brian Erickson.


The hosts discuss the many ways people perceive God—from an authoritarian figure to a loving and creative force—and how these views impact our faith, decisions, and interactions with others. They emphasize the importance of moving beyond rigid definitions, acknowledging God’s presence in love, justice, and creation. They also explore gendered language around God, how historical and cultural contexts have influenced theological perspectives, and the necessity of holding an expansive and evolving view of the divine.


Through biblical stories, including the prodigal son and the parable of the lost sheep, they highlight God’s relentless love, creative nature, and desire for relationship with humanity. The episode encourages listeners to remain open to expanding their understanding of God, embracing both mystery and revelation.


Join the conversation as they challenge traditional frameworks, invite questions, and remind listeners that wherever love is present, so is God.

]]> In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Mollie June Miller, Shawn Winburn, and James Henry dive into one of the most foundational and complex topics in faith: Who is God? They explore how our understanding of God shapes every other relationship in our lives, drawing from a thought-provoking quote by Pastor Brian Erickson.


The hosts discuss the many ways people perceive God—from an authoritarian figure to a loving and creative force—and how these views impact our faith, decisions, and interactions with others. They emphasize the importance of moving beyond rigid definitions, acknowledging God’s presence in love, justice, and creation. They also explore gendered language around God, how historical and cultural contexts have influenced theological perspectives, and the necessity of holding an expansive and evolving view of the divine.


Through biblical stories, including the prodigal son and the parable of the lost sheep, they highlight God’s relentless love, creative nature, and desire for relationship with humanity. The episode encourages listeners to remain open to expanding their understanding of God, embracing both mystery and revelation.


Join the conversation as they challenge traditional frameworks, invite questions, and remind listeners that wherever love is present, so is God.

]]> Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3465 In this episode of Spiritual, Not Religious, hosts Mollie June Miller, Shawn Winburn, and James Henry dive into one of the most foundational and complex topics in faith: Who is God? They explore how our understanding of God shapes every other relationship in our lives, drawing from a thought-provoking quote by Pastor Brian Erickson.


The hosts discuss the many ways people perceive God—from an authoritarian figure to a loving and creative force—and how these views impact our faith, decisions, and interactions with others. They emphasize the importance of moving beyond rigid definitions, acknowledging God’s presence in love, justice, and creation. They also explore gendered language around God, how historical and cultural contexts have influenced theological perspectives, and the necessity of holding an expansive and evolving view of the divine.


Through biblical stories, including the prodigal son and the parable of the lost sheep, they highlight God’s relentless love, creative nature, and desire for relationship with humanity. The episode encourages listeners to remain open to expanding their understanding of God, embracing both mystery and revelation.


Join the conversation as they challenge traditional frameworks, invite questions, and remind listeners that wherever love is present, so is God.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Hearing God's Voice 3 3 Hearing God's Voice full ed74bfd5-f2a5-4c34-97c0-33f272fe89c3 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/3 If you’ve ever wrestled with the question of whether God speaks—and if so, how to hear that voice amid life’s noise—this episode of Spiritual Not Religious is for you. Hosts Mollie June Miller, Shawn Winburn, and James Henry dive deep into the complexities of hearing God in a world filled with competing voices. They explore personal experiences, biblical stories, and practical spiritual practices—from silence and nature walks to music, service, and sacred reading. Whether you’ve longed for a clear sign from above or simply want to cultivate a deeper awareness of divine guidance in your daily life, this conversation offers insights and encouragement. Tune in and discover new ways to listen for God’s voice in the everyday moments of your journey.

]]> If you’ve ever wrestled with the question of whether God speaks—and if so, how to hear that voice amid life’s noise—this episode of Spiritual Not Religious is for you. Hosts Mollie June Miller, Shawn Winburn, and James Henry dive deep into the complexities of hearing God in a world filled with competing voices. They explore personal experiences, biblical stories, and practical spiritual practices—from silence and nature walks to music, service, and sacred reading. Whether you’ve longed for a clear sign from above or simply want to cultivate a deeper awareness of divine guidance in your daily life, this conversation offers insights and encouragement. Tune in and discover new ways to listen for God’s voice in the everyday moments of your journey.

]]> Wed, 05 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3566 If you’ve ever wrestled with the question of whether God speaks—and if so, how to hear that voice amid life’s noise—this episode of Spiritual Not Religious is for you. Hosts Mollie June Miller, Shawn Winburn, and James Henry dive deep into the complexities of hearing God in a world filled with competing voices. They explore personal experiences, biblical stories, and practical spiritual practices—from silence and nature walks to music, service, and sacred reading. Whether you’ve longed for a clear sign from above or simply want to cultivate a deeper awareness of divine guidance in your daily life, this conversation offers insights and encouragement. Tune in and discover new ways to listen for God’s voice in the everyday moments of your journey.

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Mollie June Miller Shawn Winburn Religious? 2 2 Religious? full df883b19-75a0-4609-a5ae-05001814a071 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/2 We've said we're spiritual, not religious. But just what does "religious" mean? Are our differences irreconcilable?

]]> We've said we're spiritual, not religious. But just what does "religious" mean? Are our differences irreconcilable?

]]> Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3371 We've said we're spiritual, not religious. But just what does "religious" mean? Are our differences irreconcilable?

]]> spirituality, not religious, young adult, gen z No James Henry Shawn Winburn Mollie June Miller Exploring Identity 1 1 Exploring Identity full 570f4f11-c07d-40b8-ac0c-48bda6e16b41 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/1 Figuring out who we are is a lifelong journey. In this podcast, we share some thoughts about what identity is.

]]> Figuring out who we are is a lifelong journey. In this podcast, we share some thoughts about what identity is.

]]> Wed, 08 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 3409 Figuring out who we are is a lifelong journey. In this podcast, we share some thoughts about what identity is.

]]> identity, spirituality No Shawn Winburn James Henry Mollie June Miller Spiritual, Not Religious- Teaser 1 1 Spiritual, Not Religious- Teaser bonus f1a5f561-d9be-41bc-8cf5-77bf097a9a77 https://spiritual-not-religious.transistor.fm/bonus1 Hey, we hope you will join us for our twice monthly podcast that drops live at 8:00AM Eastern on Wednesday, January 8, 2025. This is a short teaser invite. See you there!

]]> Hey, we hope you will join us for our twice monthly podcast that drops live at 8:00AM Eastern on Wednesday, January 8, 2025. This is a short teaser invite. See you there!

]]> Mon, 16 Dec 2024 16:53:05 -0500 Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry Shawn Winburn, Mollie June Miller, and James Henry 83 Hey, we hope you will join us for our twice monthly podcast that drops live at 8:00AM Eastern on Wednesday, January 8, 2025. This is a short teaser invite. See you there!

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