Law firm business development does not have to mean becoming someone you are not.

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with IP litigation partner Andraya Brunau to explore what it looks like to build a legal career, a client base, and a team around genuine relationships.

Andraya shares how returning to law after parental leave helped her become more intentional about the practice she wanted to build. For her, a sustainable career is not only about finding work you enjoy. It is also about finding people you enjoy doing that work with.

That philosophy shapes the way she approaches business development. Rather than copying someone else’s version of rainmaking, Andraya focuses on clients who share her values, invests deeply in existing relationships, and builds trust with people who genuinely feel like part of the same team.

She is bringing that same thinking to the lawyers she leads.

Instead of waiting until senior associates are expected to produce business, Andraya is helping lawyers begin developing those skills earlier. One hour a month. Small opportunities to practice. Different approaches for different personalities. The goal is not to create one kind of rainmaker. It is to help every lawyer find a form of business development that feels natural, accessible, and sustainable.

In this episode, you will hear

• Why returning from parental leave can clarify what you want from your legal career
• How to identify the clients and relationships worth investing in
• Why business development should begin before lawyers reach the senior-associate level
• How law firms can make business development more accessible to different personalities
• What it means to leave a firm, team, or practice better than you found it
• Why there is no single right way to build a meaningful career in law

About Andraya Brunau:

Andraya Brunau is an intellectual property litigator and law firm leader whose practice focuses primarily on trademark and copyright litigation, along with patent counseling and litigation matters. She serves in leadership roles within her firm’s IP litigation and commercial litigation practices and is passionate about mentoring younger attorneys, making business development more accessible, and creating a better experience for the lawyers coming behind her.

This episode is brought to you by stage’s program, corduroy:

corduroy offers business development support for lawyers navigating parental leave. corduroy is a free, four-session business development coaching engagement for lawyers returning from parental leave. Most lawyers don’t need more business development advice. They need business development that fits real life.

Across the four free virtual sessions, we help you:

• Prioritize the relationships and opportunities tied to near-term revenue
• Define simple, must-execute outreach and visibility
• Maintain connection in ways that feel authentic and sustainable
• Adjust strategy as your capacity and priorities evolve

To learn more about corduroy for yourself or your team, contact us at info@stage.guide

Learn More:

• Connect with Andraya
• Learn more about Andraya
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Related episodes:

• The Ambition Paradox: Why Working Mothers Are Still Expected to Choose (with Dr. Anne Welsh)
• What Makes Lawyers Stand Out to Law Firms? (with Albert Tawil, Founder of Lateral Hub)

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Yet, everywhere you look, you can see something that makes you feel as if you’re not doing it right or not doing enough.

In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese gives you permission to stop looking at what your competitors are doing, and instead, evaluate what you are doing and why you started doing it in the first place.

This can be particularly difficult in the legal field. Over the years, Megan has decided not to look at stage’s competitors because she wanted to make sure what she and Jen were building was uniquely theirs.

Despite popular belief, it’s actually not helpful to see every decision your competitor is making, every design they are creating, or every event they are hosting. Instead, focus on your business goals and the clients you are already serving.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers trying to differentiate themselves in a crowded market
• Legal marketers developing brands for law firms
• Business owners who find themselves constantly comparing their work to competitors
• Anyone struggling to figure out what makes their voice, perspective, or approach different

Episode takeaways:

• Competitor research can be useful, but it shouldn’t become your strategy.
• Constant comparison can unintentionally make your messaging sound like everyone else’s.
• Differentiation comes from your own experiences, clients, relationships, and perspective.
• Creativity needs space, and sometimes that means intentionally tuning out what everyone else is doing.
• AI makes developing a distinct point of view even more important as content and messaging become increasingly similar.

How to stop building your brand around your competitors:

• Keep a pulse without obsessing: Be aware of what others are doing in your industry without letting it dictate every decision you make.
• Create space for your own ideas: Give yourself room to think before looking at how everyone else has approached the same problem.
• Listen to your clients: Your clients are the greatest source of information for what’s going on in the market.
• Use competitors to learn, not imitate: Pay attention to what works, and what doesn’t, without imitating.
• Trust your perspective: You probably already have something worth saying. You may just need to stop listening to everyone else long enough to hear it.

Stay Connected:

At stage, our business is you - what makes you different, what perspectives you have, and what you enjoy doing. If you’re ready to discover what makes you distinctive from the competition, we’d love to chat.

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• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What if the answer to working motherhood isn’t about getting better at doing everything?

Maybe it starts with remembering that you’re a person in the mix and you matter, too.

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Dr. Anne Welsh, clinical psychologist, executive coach, and author of Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in Your Career and at Home.

Anne was one of the podcast’s very first guests, and she’s back to talk about the book that grew from sentences scribbled in pickup lines, gymnastics waiting rooms, early mornings, and whatever five-minute pockets she could find to write.

Together, they unpack what Anne calls the “ambition paradox”: the message that being committed to your career somehow takes away from being a good mother, and that being a good mother requires sacrificing parts of yourself for the sake of work or other people.

They talk about the mounting expectations placed on mothers, why work can actually enrich our lives as parents, the perfectionism and people-pleasing so many women internalize, and what workplaces could do differently to support people with full lives outside of work.

Ultimately, Anne offers a reminder that applies whether you're a mother, a parent, or neither: you don't have to sacrifice everything in your life to be successful.

You’ll hear about:

• Why working motherhood can feel like an impossible, zero-sum game
• How Anne wrote her book five minutes at a time
• The perfectionism, people-pleasing, and pretending that affect women far beyond motherhood
• Why having something meaningful outside of work can make us more productive and resilient
• How expectations of mothers have intensified over the past two decades
• Why parental leave is only the beginning of the support working parents need
• How law firms can better plan for caregiving without placing the burden on child-free colleagues
• The difference between flexibility and true autonomy
• Why every season of parenting, your career, or simply life may require a different definition of ambition
• What happened when Anne took a chance and asked Robin Arzón to contribute the foreword to her book

About Dr. Anne Welsh:

Dr. Anne Welsh is a clinical psychologist, executive coach, consultant, and author whose work focuses on helping women navigate the intersection of career, ambition, identity, and family. Her book, Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in Your Career and at Home, challenges the idea that women must choose between meaningful work and meaningful family lives, and offers practical tools for building a life that makes room for both, without losing yourself in the process.

Learn More:

• Connect with Dr. Anne Welsh
• Ambitious Mother: From Surviving to Thriving in Your Career and at Home
• Learn more about Anne's coaching and work

Related episodes:

• The Perfectionist Trap: Why High Achieving Women Think They're Failing (with Dr. Anne Welsh) 
• The Fateful Peloton Ride That Changed It All (with Megan Senese + Jennifer Ramsey)
• Why Most Lawyers Struggle After Parental Leave: What a ‘Mindful Return’ Looks Like (with Lori Mihalich-Levin)

This episode is brought to you by Lateral Hub:

Lateral Hub is the premier job board for top large, midsize, and boutique firms. Over 75 firms use their flat-fee membership to promote openings to laterals and judicial clerks as a transparent, targeted, affordable alternative to headhunters or LinkedIn. No hassle. No placement fees. Hiring in 2026? Don’t recruit like it’s the Stone Age.

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Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese, shares a deeply personal story about interviewing for a new job just weeks after becoming a first time mother and how this is actually a larger conversation about workplace culture, drive and ambition.

Megan explores why talented people don't stop caring in unhealthy environments - they often care even more. But when people don't feel valued, trusted, or safe to contribute, even the strongest business development strategies begin to break down.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers working in environments where they don't feel valued
• Firm leaders looking to build stronger cultures and stronger business development
• Professionals wondering whether their workplace is limiting their growth
• Anyone trying to reconcile ambition with well-being

Episode takeaways:

• Whether you believe it or not, workplace culture directly impacts business development
• Feeling undervalued often causes people to become more guarded NOT less ambitious
• Creativity, collaboration, and relationship-building require psychological safety
• Sometimes ambition looks like leaving somewhere or something
• Sustainable business development begins with environments where people feel seen, trusted, and supported

What to do if your environment is holding you back:

• Pay attention to how your workplace makes you feel: Your environment shapes how confidently you show up.
• Recognize that culture affects business development: People build relationships more naturally when they feel valued.
• Stop mistaking survival for success: Working harder isn't always the answer.
• Choose environments where you can contribute fully: Your best work happens where your voice is welcomed.
• Remember that leaving isn't giving up: Sometimes it's the first step toward building the career you actually want.

Bring this conversation to your firm:

At stage, we believe business development isn't just about teaching lawyers what to do, it's about helping firms create cultures where people feel confident enough to do it.

Because relationships grow where people feel valued.

If you or your firm are looking for guidance when it comes to integrating effective business development strategies for your team, we’d love to hear from you.

• Learn more about stage
• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

Most of us think we know exactly what a "white collar criminal" looks like. Aaron Clark wants us to question that assumption.

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Aaron Clark, white collar defense attorney and former federal prosecutor, for a conversation about justice, confirmation bias, and what it's like to stand beside people during the hardest moments of their lives.

Aaron shares why he left the U.S. Attorney's Office for private practice, what surprised him most about defending people accused of federal crimes, and why listening is often the most powerful skill a lawyer can have.

Along the way, the conversation explores reputation, second chances, business development, and why doing the brave thing every day often starts with something much smaller than you think.

Whether you're a lawyer, legal marketer, or simply someone who wants to think more critically before rushing to judgment, this episode offers a thoughtful reminder that every story has more than one side.

You'll hear about:

• Why Aaron transitioned from federal prosecutor to white collar defense attorney
• The misconceptions people have about white collar crime
• How confirmation bias shapes investigations and everyday life
• Why listening is one of the most valuable skills any lawyer can develop
• The human cost of criminal accusations, even before a verdict is reached
• What it's like to help clients navigate the most difficult moments of their lives
• Building a book of business after leaving government practice
• Why relationships, not sales tactics, drive long-term business development
• The courage it takes to do something that scares you every day
• How baking cookies became one of Aaron's favorite ways to connect with clients

About Aaron Clark: 

Aaron Clark is a white collar criminal defense attorney and former Assistant U.S. Attorney who spent years prosecuting federal cases before moving into private practice. Today, he represents individuals facing government investigations and high-stakes criminal matters, combining his experience on both sides of the courtroom with a thoughtful, people-first approach to advocacy.

Learn More

• Connect with Aaron Clark

This episode is brought to you by Lateral Hub:

Lateral Hub is the premier job board for top large, midsize, and boutique firms. Over 75 firms use their flat-fee membership to promote openings to laterals and judicial clerks as a transparent, targeted, affordable alternative to headhunters or LinkedIn. No hassle. No placement fees. Hiring in 2026? Don’t recruit like it’s the Stone Age.

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Bring these types of conversations to your law firm. These podcast conversations are the same ones happening quietly inside law firms. 

Through stage, we work with lawyers at every level and with legal marketing teams on client service, business development, and growth built on real relationships. If these themes are coming up inside your firm, let’s chat.

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• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

The right idea. The perfect timing. The person who finally sees your potential. The conversation that changes everything. The sudden burst of inspiration that makes the next step feel obvious.

We spend so much time waiting for the thing that will move us forward.

But what if there is no external thing coming?

In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Megan Senese challenges the idea that inspiration has to strike before you take action. She explores why clarity often comes after you begin, and why the person you have been waiting on to move your career, business, or life forward might be you.

The inspiration you need may not be hiding in another book, podcast, conference, mentor, or opportunity. It may already be within you, waiting for you to trust it.

You are not only the person waiting for something to change.

You are the person who can change it.

Who This Episode Is For:

• Lawyers waiting to feel ready before taking the next step
• Professionals feeling stuck or lacking motivation
• Anyone looking for greater clarity in their career or business
• People waiting for the perfect idea, timing, or opportunity before they begin

Episode Takeaways: 

• External inspiration can be valuable, but it cannot act for you
• Waiting for the perfect moment can keep you from making progress
• Small, intentional steps create momentum and confidence
• You are the person most invested in your own growth and success

When You Are Waiting for Inspiration:

We keep waiting for the thing that will finally move us forward: the right idea, the right person, the right opportunity, or the confidence to begin.

But inspiration can only take us so far. At some point, we have to stop waiting to be chosen, noticed, or given permission.

The thing you are waiting for may already be within you.

Stop waiting for the thing.

You are the inspiration you need.

Stay Connected:

Your next step does not require more inspiration. It requires you.

At stage, we help lawyers and law firms turn ideas into action through business development coaching and fractional support. Whether you need a trusted advisor to help you build relationships and grow your practice or an experienced partner to help move the work forward, we bring the strategy, structure, and consistency needed to create meaningful momentum.

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• Connect with Megan Senese
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, legal marketing strategists Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Koree, Chief Marketing and Business Development Officer at Foley & Lardner LLP, to discuss her journey from an accounting background to one of the most respected leadership roles in legal marketing.

From surviving her first week in legal marketing to building firmwide client feedback and lateral integration programs, Koree shares the lessons that helped her become a trusted advisor to firm leadership and why the best legal marketers think like business leaders.

Whether you're an aspiring CMO, a legal marketer looking to expand your influence, or a lawyer interested in how firms grow, this conversation is full of practical leadership advice you can apply immediately.

In this conversation, you’ll hear:

• How Koree moved from accounting into legal marketing
• What it takes to progress from marketer to strategic business leader
• Why relationships often open more doors than titles
• How to position yourself for leadership opportunities before you feel fully ready
• Why owning your work changes how firm leaders see you
• How Koree built client feedback and lateral integration programs from the ground up
• Why the best CMOs ask better questions instead of pretending to have every answer
• How to become a trusted advisor to lawyers and firm leadership
• Why leadership does not have to be lonely
• How great leaders create opportunities for the people around them
• Why legal marketers should stop waiting for permission to grow their careers

About Koree Khongphand-Buckman: 

Koree Khongphand-Buckman is chief marketing & business development officer (CMBDO) at Foley & Lardner LLP where she is responsible for leading the firm’s business development, marketing, client service and branding efforts across all practices, industries, sectors and offices to help the firm achieve its strategic objectives. With 20 years of professional services marketing experience, Koree is adept at crafting and implementing growth strategies for new and existing clients. 

Learn More: 

• Connect with Koree

This episode is brought to you by Lateral Hub:

Lateral Hub is the premier job board for top large, midsize, and boutique firms. Over 75 firms use their flat-fee membership to promote openings to laterals and judicial clerks as a transparent, targeted, affordable alternative to headhunters or LinkedIn. No hassle. No placement fees. Hiring in 2026? Don’t recruit like it’s the Stone Age.  

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Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 
Bring these types of conversations to your law firm. These podcast conversations are the same ones happening quietly inside law firms. Through stage, we work with lawyers at every level and with legal marketing teams on client service, business development, and growth built on real relationships. If these themes are coming up inside your firm, let’s chat. 

• Learn more about stage
• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Megan Senese shares five principles that helped stage grow from an idea into a legal marketing and business development consultancy.

These are not shortcuts; these are practical, relationship-first approaches that lawyers can use to become more visible, build stronger professional relationships, and grow a sustainable book of business over time. More importantly, they are designed to be realistic enough to keep doing, because the best business development strategy is one you can actually sustain.

Who this episode is for: 

• Lawyers who want to build or grow their book of business sustainably 
• Attorneys beginning a new role, launching a practice, or building a firm
• Legal marketers supporting lawyer business development
• Anyone who has been waiting for the “right time” to begin or needs a kickstart

Five sustainable ways lawyers can kickstart their business development

1. Start before you feel ready

There is rarely a perfect time to begin business development. Momentum comes from taking the first step and continuing to show up.

2. Get specific about who you help

The clearer you are about the people you serve and the problems you solve, the easier it becomes for others to understand your value and connect you with the right opportunities.

3. Reach out like a real person

Strong business development is built through genuine relationships, not polished sales pitches. Lead with curiosity, generosity, and a real interest in the person on the other side of the conversation.

4. Build your network in a way that fits you

You do not have to follow someone else’s networking formula. Choose approaches that reflect your personality, strengths, and capacity so your business development feels natural, realistic, and sustainable.

5. Play the long game

Business development is relationship development. Trust, credibility, referrals, and meaningful opportunities grow through consistency, not one-time efforts or quick wins.

You do not need to have everything figured out before you begin. You need clarity about who you want to help, a willingness to connect authentically, and a business development approach you can keep showing up for over time.

Ready to take the first step?

Email us at info@stage.guide with “Kickstart” in the subject line, and we will send you our one-page guide, 5 Ways to Kickstart Your Business Development.

Tell us what you are working toward or where you are feeling stuck. We would love to hear from you.

Stay Connected:

At stage, we believe business development isn't about chasing clients, it's about building trust. We help lawyers create authentic, relationship-first strategies that grow practices one meaningful connection at a time.

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What if the biggest thing holding your career back is not your skill, your experience, or your ambition, but the story you have been telling yourself?

"I'm not a rainmaker."

"I'm bad at business development."

"I'm just not wired for networking."

They shape how we show up, what opportunities we pursue, and what kind of growth we believe is possible.

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Mary Ellen Murrah, Chief Marketing Officer at Vista Consulting Team, for a candid conversation about career identity, authentic relationship development, law firm growth, consulting, operations, and the changing plaintiff-side legal market.

Mary Ellen shares how she moved from aspiring lawyer to legal marketing leader, what she has learned helping plaintiff firms grow, and why meaningful progress rarely comes from strategy alone. It comes from implementation, accountability, and the willingness to stop copying someone else’s version of success.

This episode is for anyone who has ever thought, “That’s just not who I am,” and wondered whether there might be a more honest, more effective way to grow.

You’ll hear about:

• Why the labels we place on ourselves can quietly shape our careers
• How to reframe business development as relationship development
• Why authentic networking works better than forcing yourself into someone else’s style
• Mary Ellen’s path from aspiring lawyer to legal marketing leader
• What Vista Consulting Team helps plaintiff law firms actually implement
• Why accountability is often the missing piece after a consulting engagement
• The operational differences between plaintiff firms and traditional billable-hour firms
• How private equity is reshaping the plaintiff-side legal market
• What makes a law firm attractive for acquisition
• Why growth often begins with questioning the story you have been repeating

Whether you are building a book of business, leading a team, growing a law firm, or trying to step into your next chapter with more confidence, this conversation offers a more human way to think about success.

Listen to the episode and consider what might change if you stopped defining yourself by the labels that limit you.

About Mary Ellen Murrah:

Mary Ellen Murrah is the Chief Marketing Officer at Vista Consulting Team, where she helps plaintiff law firms grow through operational strategy, leadership development, and marketing. With more than two decades of experience in legal technology, law firm leadership, and business operations, she works closely with firms across the U.S. and Canada to improve efficiency, strengthen culture, and prepare for sustainable growth.

Learn More:

• Check out Vista Consulting
• Download Vista’s PE Readiness Guide

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

Bring these types of conversations to your law firm. These podcast conversations are the same ones happening quietly inside law firms. Through stage, we work with lawyers at every level and with legal marketing teams on client service, business development, and growth built on real relationships. If these themes are coming up inside your firm, let’s chat.

In this mini episode with Megan Senese, we explore why the most effective networking isn't about selling yourself or asking for work. It's about getting curious, building genuine relationships, and showing up with a simple question: How can I help? Megan shares the outreach strategy that transformed stage's first year of business and offers a simple challenge to help you build meaningful connections this summer.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers looking for a more authentic approach to business development
• Professionals who feel uncomfortable reaching out to new contacts
• Anyone who worries networking feels too transactional
• People wanting to grow their network through genuine relationships rather than sales

Episode takeaways:

• Business development begins with relationships, not sales
• Most people are far more open to connecting than we assume
• A simple, thoughtful outreach often works better than a perfectly crafted pitch
• Asking "How can I help?" creates stronger, more memorable relationships
• Small, intentional conversations today can become opportunities tomorrow

What to do this summer to build your network:

• Reach out to someone new: Invite them to a 15-20 minute virtual coffee or meet-and-greet.
• Lead with curiosity: Ask about their work, their interests, and what's keeping them busy.
• End every conversation by asking, "How can I help?": You may be surprised by the answer.
• Remember what matters to them: Take notes and follow up later on the things they shared.
• Plant seeds now: Thoughtful relationships built during slower seasons often grow into meaningful opportunities later.

Stay Connected:

At stage, we believe the strongest business development strategy isn't about selling, it's about building trust one conversation at a time. We help lawyers create relationship-first approaches that feel natural, authentic, and sustainable.

The next meaningful opportunity probably isn't waiting in your inbox.

Send the note. Start the conversation. Build the relationship.

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

Why do so many smart, capable people stay in unhealthy work environments? And why do bad bosses seem to exist in every industry?
In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Mita Mallick, bestselling author, workplace culture expert, and speaker on a mission to make work more human.

Drawing from the stories in her book The Devil Emails at Midnight, Mita shares why toxic leadership is often enabled by systems, why self-awareness is the foundation of great leadership, and how many high achievers unknowingly normalize unhealthy behavior.

This conversation unpacks everything from micromanagers and "rainmakers" to people-pleasing, burnout, and the surprising ways our childhood experiences can shape the bosses we tolerate. If you’ve ever given a bad boss a code name, this episode is for you.

You’ll hear about:

• Why Mita believes bad bosses aren't born, they're made
• The essential role self-awareness plays in becoming a better leader
• How organizations unintentionally protect toxic high performers
• Why fear creates short-term results but destroys culture over time
• Why people often normalize unhealthy workplace behavior
• The importance of boundaries in a 24/7 world
• Why taking care of yourself isn't selfish, it's good leadership
• What Mita is exploring in her upcoming book, Office Villains

About Mita Mallick:

Mita Mallick is a bestselling author, speaker, workplace culture expert, and business leader focused on creating more human, inclusive organizations. She is the author of The Devil Emails at Midnight and Reimagine Inclusion, and her work has been featured by major organizations and media outlets around the world. Through her writing, coaching, and speaking, Mita helps leaders build self-awareness, navigate change, and create healthier workplaces.

Learn More:

• Mita’s Website
• Check out Mita’s books

This episode is brought to you by: Latitude Legal

In partnership with Latitude Legal, stage offers four free business development sessions for any lawyer returning from parental leave. We call it Corduroy. It is open to any lawyer. We know how challenging it can be to be a working parent, and this is our way of giving back to the legal community through business development support. If you are interested in learning more about Corduroy for yourself or your team, you can email us at info@stage.guide. Thank you to Latitude Legal and Kyle Robisch for being the sole partner supporting our Corduroy initiative. They recognize the importance of supporting working parents in the legal industry and are generously underwriting this program. To learn more, visit www.latitudelegal.com or contact Kyle directly at KRobisch@latitudelegal.com.

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• What are you really building? Often it goes beyond just a book of business. 
• A successful law practice that helps and connects people?
• A stronger reputation that adds purpose? 
• More autonomy?
• More freedom?

In this special mini episode, Megan explores why milestones matter, the surprising power of conversation, and the question many professionals never stop long enough to ask themselves: 

If you keep building exactly what you're building today, where does it lead?

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers questioning what success actually means to them
• Professionals who have achieved external success but feel unfulfilled
• Firm owners and legal marketers seeking more autonomy and purpose
• Anyone wondering whether they're building a life they truly want

Episode takeaways:

• Milestones are an opportunity to pause and reflect
• Success means different things to different people
• Joy and purpose can exist inside your work, too
• Building a meaningful career requires intention, not just momentum
• Pause and reflect: What would your milestone look like?
• Define your version of success: Don't inherit someone else's definition
• Ask yourself what you're really building: Money, freedom, reputation, impact, or something else?
• Reconnect with joy: Identify the parts of your work that energize you
• Celebrate your milestones: They deserve acknowledgment 
• Choose purpose intentionally: Small decisions compound into the life you're creating
• Keep building with intention: Because where you're headed matters just as much as how hard you're working

Stay Connected:

• Learn more about stage
• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What do in-house lawyers actually want from outside counsel?

After spending more than a decade inside one of the most recognizable brands in the world, Brittany Johnson has a surprisingly clear, and uncomplicated, answer.

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Brittany Johnson to talk about her journey from Big Law associate to leading licensing and expansion work at a global brand, and why she recently made the decision to return to private practice.

Along the way, Brittany shares what life inside a global brand really looked like, the lessons she learned working alongside business leaders, and why the best outside counsel don't just identify risks, they stand by their team and share in the responsibility of all decisions made.

You’ll hear about:

• Why Brittany left her "dream job" to begin a new chapter
• The anxiety dream that perfectly captured career transitions
• What surprised her most about moving from private practice to in-house
• Why in-house lawyers are rarely the most important voice in the room
• The difference between identifying risks and helping businesses make decisions
• The business development mistakes that immediately turn in-house counsel off
• Why relationships with in-house lawyers are often a long game
• What outside counsel can do to become indispensable partners
• The brands Brittany is watching right now
• How a non-billable assignment changed the course of her career forever

About Brittany Johnson:

Brittany Johnson is a franchise and licensing attorney with more than a decade of experience spanning both private practice and in-house legal leadership. Throughout her career, she has advised brands on growth, expansion, licensing, and strategic partnerships, helping businesses navigate complex legal and commercial challenges.

Today, Brittany brings her unique perspective as both a former in-house business partner and outside counsel to help emerging and established brands grow thoughtfully and sustainably. Her practice focuses on franchising, licensing, and building practical legal solutions that support business objectives.

Learn More:

• Franchising for Dummies

This episode is brought to you by: Vista Consulting

Vista Consulting helps law firms navigate the rapidly shifting landscape of private equity and MSO-driven transactions. They serve as strategic advisors to firms preparing for acquisition, merger, or partnership, strengthening operations, aligning leadership, and pressure-testing financial performance. Their hands-on experience ensures firms enter the market organized, confident, and positioned to maximize value when it matters most for long-term success ahead. For more information, check out their Law Firm Owner’s Guide to PE Readiness here or explore Vista Consulting’s M&A advisory services for law firms considering a sale.

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In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan, we explore why so many lawyers immediately answer "I'm bad at business development" when asked how they feel about it. By shifting the conversation from performance to emotion, Megan shares a more useful way to identify what’s really getting in the way, and how small, consistent actions can help you build confidence over time.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers who feel overwhelmed, intimidated, or stuck when it comes to business development
• Professionals who believe they're "bad" at networking or relationship building
• Anyone looking for a more sustainable and realistic approach to growth
• People who want to improve their business development skills authentically 

Episode takeaways:

• "I'm bad at business development" is often a judgment about yourself
• Understanding how you feel about business development helps identify the real challenges you’re facing with BD
• Mindset isn't about blind positivity, it's about awareness and practice
• There is no one-size-fits-all business development strategy
• Small, consistent actions create momentum and confidence over time

Some BD tips you can try: 

• Start with the right question: Ask yourself how you feel about business development, not whether you're good at it
• Identify the real obstacle: Overwhelmed, nervous, time-constrained, uncertain? Name it first
• Treat business development like a skill: Practice matters more than perfection
• Take small steps consistently: A few minutes a day is better than waiting for the perfect plan and doing nothing
• Experiment without judgment: Find approaches that fit your personality and season of life
• Focus on progress, not performance: Confidence grows through action

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At stage, we believe business development should feel human, sustainable, and aligned with who you are. We help lawyers build relationship-first strategies that work for their strengths, not a one-size-fits-all, cookie cutter approach.

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What if intellectual property education wasn’t reserved for corporations, elite institutions, or people who already knew how the system worked?

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Valérie Cambronne, IP attorney, founder of LegallyBlack, and someone deeply committed to closing the IP literacy gap in underrepresented communities.

What started as a conversation between two law school friends after hearing about young artists being exploited in the music industry, eventually became a nationwide nonprofit teaching students how to protect what they create. From candy-themed trademark workshops with high school students, to partnerships with Harvard University, MIT, Howard University School of Law, and the American Bar Association, Valérie is helping reshape who gets access to intellectual property education and why it matters.

You’ll hear about:

• How one podcast episode about music exploitation inspired the formation of LegallyBlack
• Why Valérie believes IP literacy should be treated and taught like financial literacy
• Why so many creators and founders underestimate protecting their IP
• The difference between obstacles and resistance, and why that mindset changed everything
• Building a nonprofit while practicing law full-time
• How LegallyBlack grew through relationships, word-of-mouth, and momentum
• Why IP matters for creators, influencers, startups, and students
• The surprising intersection between Valérie’s nonprofit work and private practice
• Why business development is a long-term investment
• The vision for LegallyBlack chapters across the country (and eventually globally!)

About Valérie Cambronne: 

Valérie Cambronne is an IP attorney and the Founder & Executive Director of LegallyBlack, a nonprofit organization dedicated to increasing IP literacy in underrepresented communities. Since launching in 2020, LegallyBlack has delivered free educational workshops across multiple states, reaching students through partnerships with schools, universities, and legal organizations nationwide.

Valérie also runs her own IP practice, where she focuses on trademark counseling, brand protection, and helping creators and entrepreneurs understand the “why” behind intellectual property strategy.

Learn More:

• Check out LegallyBlack

This episode is brought to you by: Vista Consulting

Vista Consulting helps law firms navigate the rapidly shifting landscape of private equity and MSO-driven transactions. They serve as strategic advisors to firms preparing for acquisition, merger, or partnership, strengthening operations, aligning leadership, and pressure-testing financial performance. Their hands-on experience ensures firms enter the market organized, confident, and positioned to maximize value when it matters most for long-term success ahead. For more information, check out their Law Firm Owner’s Guide to PE Readiness here or explore Vista Consulting’s M&A advisory services for law firms considering a sale.

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In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan, she talks about the exhausting reality that the same people are often given the same opportunities in law firms, conferences, and leadership spaces while others are left wondering, ‘why not me?’. But instead of waiting to be picked, Megan shares why choosing yourself and advocating for yourself while making yourself visible is one of the most important business development skills you can build.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers feeling overlooked or stuck in their visibility efforts (online or in-person)
• Professionals waiting for opportunities, visibility, or leadership invitations
• Anyone frustrated by inequity in networking, speaking, or business development opportunities
• People struggling to advocate for themselves and their work

Episode takeaways:

• Hoping to be discovered is not a business development strategy
• Visibility often comes from advocating for yourself, not waiting for permission
• Many talented professionals stay invisible because they believe they need to be chosen first
• Rejection, silence, and unanswered pitches are part of the process, NOT proof you aren’t worthy
• Building your own path and community is often more powerful than trying to force your way into rooms that don’t want you there in the first place

Business development tips for building visibility: 

• Stop waiting to be noticed: Tell people what you want
• Pitch yourself for opportunities: Speaking, writing, leadership, and visibility all require action (write it, publish it, send the email)
• Get comfortable being uncomfortable: Confidence often comes after repetition
• Pivot instead of stopping: If one door closes, try a different room
• Find your people: Focus on relationships with those who genuinely want to support you
• Choose yourself first: You do not need permission to advocate for your value

Stay Connected:

You do not need to wait for someone else to choose you. 
Advocate for yourself, build your path, and find your people.
stage helps lawyers and legal teams build visibility, business development confidence, and relationship-first growth strategies that feel authentic, not tiring and performative.

• Learn more about stage
• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What actually makes someone stand out in the legal industry?

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Albert Tawil, Founder and CEO of Lateral Hub, to talk about entrepreneurship, authenticity, legal recruiting, and why the most interesting thing about you might have absolutely nothing to do with the law.

From starting a Costco delivery business before Instacart, to disrupting the traditional lateral recruiting model, to helping law students learn how to share the parts of themselves that make them memorable, this conversation is packed with practical insights and refreshing honesty.

You’ll hear about:

• Why authenticity matters more than a perfectly curated legal resume
• The Costco delivery business that unexpectedly made Albert a standout candidate
• How entrepreneurship shaped the way Albert approaches recruiting and business
• The origin story behind Lateral Hub and the inefficiencies it set out to solve
• Why traditional legal recruiting can feel outdated and expensive
• The changing landscape of lateral hiring
• What firms are actually looking for in interviews
• Why being “well-rounded” is often more valuable than looking traditionally impressive
• The role creativity and adaptability play in legal careers
• What COVID changed about lateral hiring, remote work, and law firm culture
• Why some industries are ripe for disruption, and where legal may be headed next

About Albert Tawil:

Albert Tawil is the Founder & CEO of Lateral Hub, a legal recruiting platform helping attorneys take a more transparent and efficient approach to lateral hiring. A former IP and Tech Transactions associate at Cleary Gottlieb and Fenwick & West, Albert launched Lateral Hub in 2022 after experiencing the lateral recruiting process firsthand and recognizing an opportunity to modernize it for both candidates and law firms.

Since launching, Lateral Hub has become a growing resource for BigLaw laterals, law students, and recruiting teams navigating an increasingly competitive hiring landscape. Albert received his J.D. from New York University School of Law and lives in New Jersey with his wife and three children.

Learn More:

• Check out Lateral Hub

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You’ve just come back from a big conference, energized, exhausted, and you’re ready to take action. You had great conversations, made meaningful connections, and now you want to keep that momentum going but aren’t totally sure of where to begin.

In this episode of Minis with Megan on So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese offers 5 tips that help people focus on the part most people skip: the follow-up. Because the value of any conference isn’t just in who you meet, it’s in what you do next.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers, legal marketers, and professionals returning from conferences or networking events
• Anyone struggling to keep momentum after meaningful in-person connections
• People overwhelmed by follow-up and unsure where to start
• High performers who want to turn conversations into lasting relationships

Episode takeaways:

• The real value of networking happens after the event
• Follow-up often gets skipped—not from lack of intention, but lack of time
• There is no one “right” way to follow up—what matters is that you do it
• Small, timely actions build trust and strengthen relationships
• Momentum fades quickly if you don’t capture and act on it

5 things to do when you get home from a conference:

• Write a list of everyone you met: Names, companies, refer back to your photos, notebook, or notes app
• Follow through on what you promised: Referrals, intros, or simple check-ins build trust
• Share something valuable: Pass along insights, ideas, or “aha” moments from the event to colleagues or clients
• Keep the conversation going: Set follow-up meetings, even if they’re weeks or months out to ensure nothing slips through the cracks
• Reach out to missed connections: Follow up with people you didn’t meet or who couldn’t attend the event

Stay Connected:

Looking to build a more intentional, relationship-first approach to business development?
stage helps lawyers and legal teams turn conversations into meaningful, long-term connections that actually drive growth.

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• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What if the problem isn’t the law…but how we talk about it?

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Vivek Jayaram, an IP attorney who’s rethinking what it means to be a lawyer, not just in how he practices, but in how he shows up, communicates, and builds relationships.

From turning complex legal concepts into engaging Instagram content, to teaching intellectual property law through Taylor Swift (affectionately named “Blank Space”), to sitting in the room before the legal work even begins, this conversation challenges the traditional idea of what a “successful lawyer” looks like.

It’s a conversation about creativity, courage, and choosing to do things differently, even when the industry as a whole tells you not to.

You’ll hear about:

• Why law feels boring, and how storytelling changes everything
• Building a platform by making legal concepts relatable (and actually interesting)
• The reality of getting comfortable on camera
• Why authenticity isn’t just a buzzword, it’s a competitive advantage
• Tips for helping clients get to yes
• Why many lawyers think too small about their role 
• The long game of business development, and why most people quit too early
• Why consistency matters more than talent when building visibility
• The impact of teaching law through pop culture
• How creativity shows up in unexpected places 
• Redefining what success looks like for lawyers

About Vivek Jayaram: 

Vivek Jayaram is an attorney. But as Founder of Jayaram Law, he’s also a successful entrepreneur, which gives him a sound base for advising other entrepreneurs, creatives, and the companies they run. From groundbreaking artists and Web 3.0 innovators, to unique international brands in fashion and new media, Vivek handles their intellectual property transactions and disputes, corporate deals, and acts as an outside general counsel. 

Alongside the day job, Vivek teaches intellectual property and entertainment law courses at the University of Miami Law School. Before Jayaram Law happened, he was an associate at Greenberg Traurig, as well as a law clerk to the Honorable Adalberto Jordan of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Beyond work, Vivek plays and records music, collects contemporary art, and loves to get lost in great cities.

Learn More:

• Check out Jayaram Law

This episode is brought to you by Dealmakers Forums:

Dealmakers Forums is a premier platform for high-impact networking and strategic deal-making in complex markets. Through flagship events across the U.S. and Europe, they convene a curated, senior-level community of investors, corporate leaders, funders, and counsel. Their focus is on delivering meaningful connections, market insight, and real business outcomes in litigation finance and intellectual property.
For more information, visit Dealmakers Forums and view their upcoming event calendar.

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In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese challenges the way networking is typically framed in the legal industry. The version that says you need to work the room, prove your value, and leave with something to show for it.

That version doesn’t just feel uncomfortable. It makes real connection harder.

This episode offers a different approach. One rooted in curiosity, generosity, and the understanding that networking isn’t about what you get. It’s about how you show up and how you make people feel.

Who this is for:

• Lawyers and legal marketers who feel awkward or drained at networking events
• Professionals who leave conferences feeling like they didn’t “do enough”
• Anyone who believes they’re bad at networking
• People under pressure to turn every interaction into ROI
• What you’ll take away:
• You’re not bad at networking. You’ve been taught a version that doesn’t work
• Why even experienced professionals still feel uncomfortable at events
• How the pressure to “get something” undermines connection
• What shifts when you approach networking with curiosity instead of expectation
• Why people remember how you made them feel, not what you said

A different way to approach your next event:

• Reach out to people you know will be there before you arrive
• Let people know you’re attending and invite connection in advance
• Focus on meeting people, not making something happen 

Want more tips and insights? Connect with us!

You don’t need to be someone else to be good at networking. You just need to connect.

stage helps lawyers and legal teams rethink business development through a relationship-first approach: one that feels natural, sustainable, and effective over time.

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

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What if the way we think about careers, leadership, and success is completely wrong?

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Ashley Herd, Founder of Manager Method, workplace expert, content creator, and author, to unpack what it actually means to lead, build a career, and show up as a human at work.

Ashley shares her journey from employment lawyer to in-house counsel to entrepreneur, and how a non-linear “career quilt” ultimately led her to building a platform that’s reshaping how people think about management. Along the way, she gets real about burnout, identity shifts, and the uncomfortable truth that many workplace norms still prioritize speed over thoughtfulness, and hierarchy over humanity.

This conversation is equal parts practical and perspective-shifting, especially for anyone working inside law firms, where influence often exists without authority.

You’ll hear about:

• Why Ashley left law to build Manager Method
• The concept of a “career quilt” vs. a traditional career path
• How to lead and influence when you don’t have formal authority
• The Pause, Consider, Act framework — and why it matters more than ever
• What legal marketers and lawyers can learn from in-house client perspectives
• Why asking your clients questions is still wildly underutilized (and powerful)
• The reality of workplace culture — and how it shows up when people resign
• “Luke” — the fictional (but very real) bad manager we’ve all worked with
• How Ashley built her platform (and podcast) through simple, human outreach
• Why redefining success might be the most important work you do

About Ashley Herd:

Ashley Herd is the founder of Manager Method, where she helps leaders become better managers through practical, human-centered approaches. A former employment lawyer and in-house counsel, Ashley now creates widely recognized workplace content across LinkedIn and social media, teaches leadership through her courses, and is the author of her recent book on modern management.

Learn More:

• Check out Manager Method
• Buy Ashley’s book, The Manager Method: A Practical Framework to Lead, Support, and Get Results

This episode is brought to you by HeyCounsel

Starting and running your own law firm can be scary, and honestly, pretty lonely. But it doesn’t have to be. After nine years in-house, Brian Scherer set out on his own and realized something: lawyers at big firms have access to resources, connections, and support systems that solo and small firm lawyers often don’t. So he built HeyCounsel to change that. When you join the HeyCounsel community, you get immediate access to an insane amount of resources, templates, free CLEs, masterminds, exclusive events and discounts to tech and tools to run your practice. It's like having big-firm power without having to join a big firm. You can join HeyCounsel for less than $65/mo with our discount code "SOMUCH". To learn more about HeyCounsel, visit them at heycounsel.com.

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Most lawyers or legal marketers never allow themselves to come out of “on mode.” They’ve only been trained how to push through it.

This episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan is intentionally different. It creates space to step out of constant responsiveness and notice what is happening in your body while you work.

Many lawyers and legal marketing professionals move through their days holding everything. Shoulders stay tight. Breathing becomes shallow. The nervous system remains quietly activated and mistakes increase.

This episode is permission for a brief pause. A chance to slow down, take a breath, and experience what even a few intentional minutes of reset can feel like so you can go  back to your work refreshed and recharged and with a moment to catch your breath.

If this moment resonates, a longer guided session is available on 4/16 for those who want to go deeper. Details for registration are below.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers and professionals who feel constantly “on” during the workday
• Anyone overwhelmed by email, notifications, and nonstop screen time
• People noticing physical stress (tight shoulders, shallow breathing, fatigue)
• High performers who struggle to give themselves permission to take a break

Episode takeaways:

• “Email apnea” and “screen apnea” are real: Holding your breath while working is more common than you think
• Constant screen time and stress can physically impact your breathing, focus, and energy
• You cannot do your best work (legal, strategic, or creative) if your body is in a state of tension
• Taking a break isn’t indulgent, it’s necessary for sustainable performance
• Even small, intentional pauses (like breathing) can reset your entire system
• Small steps you can take to invite awareness:
• Notice your body: Are you holding your breath, clenching, or bracing?
• Pause and take a breath: Even one intentional inhale and exhale can interrupt the stress cycle
• Give yourself permission to step away: You don’t need to “earn” a break. You deserve a break.
• Create space for reset: Short, structured breaks can help you return more focused
• Prioritize sustainability: Your performance depends on your ability to regulate, not just push through

Join us for Off the Mat on 4/16 at 1 pm ET / 10 am PT

A 30-minute guided breathing session led by a certified yoga instructor, our very own Jen Ramsey!

*No camera required
*No experience needed
*Join directly from your desk
*Email us at info@stage.guide or register here

Stay Connected:

• Learn more about stage
• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Lori Mihalich-Levin, CEO and Founder of Mindful Return, author of Back to Work After Baby, co-host of the Parents at Work podcast, and a healthcare lawyer at The GME Group. Lori shares why returning to work after having a child is one of the most professionally disruptive transitions lawyers face—and what a more sustainable, intentional transition can look like.

What began as a moment of desperation, crying while washing bottles and caring for two young children, led to a critical realization: most workplaces treat return-to-work as a logistical event, not a human transition. In response, she built Mindful Return, a national platform supporting working parents through this exact inflection point. Lori shares what’s often left unspoken: postpartum anxiety, identity disruption, the invisible labor of reentry, and the pressure to perform as if nothing has changed. She also breaks down what a “mindful return” requires from both individuals and organizations and why community plays a central role in recovery and retention.

This episode is essential for anyone navigating parenthood and career and for leaders responsible for whether working parents thrive, struggle, or leave.

You’ll hear about:

• Why Lori created Mindful Return after her own painful return-to-work experience
• The personal and professional identity crisis that can come after parental leave
• What working parents actually need during the transition back to work
• How Mindful Return’s cohort model helps moms AND dads feel less alone
• Why parenthood builds leadership skills we still don’t talk about enough
• The case for better workplace support around miscarriage, infant loss, and mental health
• How mindfulness, yoga, and community have helped Lori navigate both work and family life

About Lori Mihalich-Levin:

Lori Mihalich-Levin is the CEO & Founder of Mindful Return, a nationally recognized platform supporting working parents through parental leave and the transition back to work. She is the author of Back to Work After Baby, co-host (with her husband) of the Parents at Work podcast, and a healthcare lawyer at The GME Group. Her work has been featured in Forbes, The Washington Post, The New York Times Parenting, and more.

Learn More:

• Learn more about Mindful Return
• Check out Insight Timer
• Listen to the Parents at Work podcast
• Check out Lori’s book, Back to Work After Baby

This episode is brought to you by: Latitude Legal

In partnership with Latitude Legal, stage offers four free business development sessions for any lawyer returning from parental leave. We call it Corduroy. It is open to any lawyer. We know how challenging it can be to be a working parent, and this is our way of giving back to the legal community through business development support. If you are interested in learning more about Corduroy for yourself or your team, you can email us at info@stage.guide. Thank you to Latitude Legal and Kyle Robisch for being the sole partner supporting our Corduroy initiative. They recognize the importance of supporting working parents in the legal industry and are generously underwriting this program. To learn more, visit www.latitudelegal.com or contact Kyle directly at KRobisch@latitudelegal.com.

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Most lawyers or legal marketers never allow themselves to come out of “on mode.” They’ve only been trained how to push through it.   

This episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Minis with Megan is intentionally different. It creates space to step out of constant responsiveness and notice what is happening in your body while you work.

Many lawyers and legal marketing professionals move through their days holding everything. Shoulders stay tight. Breathing becomes shallow. The nervous system remains quietly activated and mistakes increase. 

This episode is permission for a brief pause. A chance to slow down, take a breath, and experience what even a few intentional minutes of reset can feel like so you can go  back to your work refreshed and recharged and with a moment to catch your breath. 

If this moment resonates, a longer guided session is available on 4/16 for those who want to go deeper. Details for registration are below.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers and professionals who feel constantly “on” during the workday
• Anyone overwhelmed by email, notifications, and nonstop screen time
• People noticing physical stress (tight shoulders, shallow breathing, fatigue)
• High performers who struggle to give themselves permission to take a break

Episode takeaways:

• “Email apnea” and “screen apnea” are real: Holding your breath while working is more common than you think
• Constant screen time and stress can physically impact your breathing, focus, and energy
• You cannot do your best work (legal, strategic, or creative) if your body is in a state of tension
• Taking a break isn’t indulgent, it’s necessary for sustainable performance
• Even small, intentional pauses (like breathing) can reset your entire system

Small steps you can take to invite awareness:

• Notice your body: Are you holding your breath, clenching, or bracing?
• Pause and take a breath: Even one intentional inhale and exhale can interrupt the stress cycle
• Give yourself permission to step away: You don’t need to “earn” a break. You deserve a break.
• Create space for reset: Short, structured breaks can help you return more focused
• Prioritize sustainability: Your performance depends on your ability to regulate, not just push through

Join us for Off the Mat:
A 30-minute guided breathing session led by a certified yoga instructor, our very own Jen Ramsey!

*No camera required
*No experience needed
*Join directly from your desk
* April 16 @ 1pm ET / 10 am PT

Email us at info@stage.guide or register here

Stay Connected:

• Learn more about stage
• Connect with Megan Senese 
• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. 

What happens when a successful Big Law partner does everything “right” and still finds herself struggling? 

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey speak with financial services litigator and partner Lindsay Aggarwal about the realities of returning to practice after parental leave, the risks of mental health invisibility in high-performance environments, and how one person’s experience became a catalyst for institutional change.

After returning from her second parental leave, Lindsay found herself facing a reality she hadn’t experienced the first time around. What began as anxiety and overwhelm eventually led to a diagnosis of postpartum depression: a moment that forced her to step back, seek help, and rethink what support for working parents in Big Law could look like.

Instead of navigating the experience quietly, Lindsay helped lead the development of a structured parental leave coaching initiative at her law firm that was designed to support lawyers before, during, and after leave — an effort that reflects evolving expectations around leadership sustainability, talent retention, and modern career trajectories in Big Law.

You’ll hear about:

• How to navigate postpartum depression while sustaining the visibility and performance demands of Big Law partnership
• The inflection point that led Lindsay to translate personal experience into firm-level support
• How she helped launch a structured parental leave coaching initiative within a global law firm
• What the BCLP program signals about retention, leadership pipelines, and culture evolution
• How peer groups and individualized support models strengthen working parent outcomes in law
• How caregiving realities intersect with client relationships, business development, and differentiation
• Why the traditional Big Law model may no longer fit modern working families — and what offers hope for the future

About Lindsay Aggarwal:

Lindsay Aggarwal is a partner at Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner (BCLP) and a financial services litigator with more than a decade of experience in complex litigation. She also leads BCLP’s Parental Leave Coaching Program, an initiative designed to support lawyers navigating parental leave and returning to practice.

Through her advocacy and writing, Lindsay is helping spark broader conversations about parental leave, mental health, and sustainable career paths in the legal profession.

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In this mini episode, Megan Senese explores the deeper roots of imposter syndrome, the belief that “I’m not good enough”, and how the comparison trap and internal narratives shape whether lawyers put themselves forward or stay on the sidelines. Recognizing your own value isn’t just personal work, it’s a professional strategy. 

The lawyers who believe in their value are the ones who step forward, build relationships, and ultimately generate business.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers and legal marketers navigating imposter syndrome
• Lawyers and professionals comparing themselves to others’ credentials or success
• People working to rebuild confidence in their voice or abilities
• Lawyers ready to shift the narrative they tell themselves and step forward professionally

Episode takeaways:

• How the belief “I’m not good enough” quietly fuels imposter syndrome
• How the comparison trap (law schools, firms, titles, and status) drives self-doubt
• Why even highly accomplished lawyers still struggle with imposter syndrome
• How the stories you repeat to yourself shape your confidence and professional identity
• One simple daily exercise to retrain your brain and start rebuilding self-confidence

How to start shifting the “not good enough” narrative:

• Notice the story you’re telling yourself: Imposter syndrome often begins with internal dialogue
• Challenge the comparison trap: Someone else’s credentials don’t define your worth
• Recognize shared insecurity: Even the people you admire question themselves
• Interrupt the negative loop: What you repeatedly tell yourself becomes belief
• Write down one good thing about yourself each day: Small affirmations retrain your brain to think differently

Stay Connected:

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How do you get 2,200+ legal professionals to show up for a contracts webinar?

In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast for People, Jessica Nguyen, Deputy General Counsel of AI Innovation & Trust at DocuSign and Head of Contract Nerds, joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to pull back the curtain on why most law firm marketing completely misses the mark, how DocuSign is using AI to build deeper trust with its clients, and the one outside law firm that truly stood out to her, and what one lawyer did that was different from every other law firm competing for attention.

From building one of the most engaged contracts communities in legal to helping shape AI strategy inside a global tech company, Jessica shares what actually creates momentum, and what kills it.

In this episode, you’ll hear directly from a Deputy General Counsel about:

• Why Contract Nerds consistently attracts thousands of lawyers and what lessons you can apply to your next webinar
• How community becomes a long-term growth engine — not just a mailing list
• What in-house counsel actually look for when hiring outside counsel 
• The positioning shifts that make lawyers stand out instead of blend in
• The CLE mistakes all law firms make and how to change it
• Why legal services feel commoditized and how to break that cycle
• How AI can 10x your legal productivity without replacing your judgment
• Why consistent execution, not just branding is what builds real client trust
• The role gratitude plays in sustaining a long-term legal career

This conversation is for lawyers who want a clearer understanding on how to attract the right clients—without chasing, posturing, or relying on generic marketing tactics.

About Jessica Nguyen:

Jessica Nguyen is Deputy General Counsel of AI Innovation & Trust at DocuSign and Head of Contract Nerds, a global community serving thousands of contracts and legal professionals. A seasoned in-house leader and former Chief Legal Officer, Jessica focuses on customer-centric innovation at the intersection of AI, agreements, and trust.

She also hosts the In-House podcast, where she interviews legal leaders about influence, career pivots, and building a meaningful in-house career.

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As stage closes out its third year in business, Megan Senese reflects on what has actually fueled growth, and it might not be what you think. In this mini episode, she shares why showing up consistently, a little bit every day, is what compounds into real business development and sustainable success.

Who this episode is for:

• Lawyers building their book of business
• Founders navigating early years of entrepreneurship
• Professionals frustrated by not being the “strategy” or “influencer” type
• Anyone questioning whether steady effort really matters

Episode takeaways:

• Why discipline might be your most underrated strength
• How consistency compounds over time in business development
• The power of oscillating between thinking and doing
• Why there is no single “best practice” for building a book of business
• How steady, stubborn consistency outlasts quick wins

Business development tips from this episode: 

• Discipline beats flash: Long-term growth comes from consistent effort, not one viral moment
• Thinking alone isn’t enough: Someone still has to do the doing
• Small daily actions compound: Business development is built little by little
• Consistency builds credibility: Especially when no one is watching
• There is no one-size-fits-all formula: The best approach is the one you’ll actually sustain

If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. 

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• Connect with Jennifer Ramsey
• Email stage at info@stage.guide

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This episode contains discussions of disturbing events that have taken place in Minnesota. Please take care while listening.

“Shouldn't we as a society really be taking a step back and dissecting this hate, and realize that it is shameful and embarrassing?...Right now, you guys might be interviewing me about what's happening in Minneapolis. I hope nobody is ever interviewing you about what is happening in your neighborhoods.” - Cari Brunkow

What happens when the national headlines are in your neighborhood?

In this powerful and deeply human conversation, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey sit down with Cari Brunkow, founder and counsel of Lotus Legal, a Minneapolis-based criminal defense and civil rights attorney who is living, and lawyering, in the middle of escalating ICE activity and community unrest.

Cari shares what it feels like to launch a human-centered law practice, and watch violence unfold in her own city just days later. She speaks candidly about fear, grief, anger, and hope, and about what it means to show up as a lawyer, a mother, and a community member when the fight feels personal.

This is not a neat conversation. There are no easy answers. But there is honesty, proximity, and a reminder that we are not alone and we can all do something.

You’ll hear about:

• Why Cari named her firm Lotus Legal, and what the lotus symbolizes in criminal defense and civil rights work
• What she’s seeing firsthand in Minneapolis, and how it differs from national narratives
• The emotional toll of witnessing violence in your own community
• What it means to “get proximate” even if you don’t live in Minnesota
• Practical ways to support affected communities
• Why speaking up makes all of us safer

About Cari Brunkow:

Cari Brunkow is the founder and counsel of Lotus Legal, a Minneapolis-based criminal defense and civil rights firm. With more than a decade of experience representing individuals in law enforcement brutality cases and protecting constitutional rights, Cari launched her solo practice in 2025 to align her legal work fully with her values. She is a mother, a community advocate, and a fierce believer in proximity, truth, and collective courage.

Ways You Can Get Involved:

• Support local journalism (e.g., Minnesota Public Radio)
• Buy gift cards or directly support small businesses in affected communities - Learn more about Mercado Central
• Call your congressional representatives regarding ICE and DHS funding
• Check out the National Lawyers Guild
• Check out the National Immigration Law Center

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In this mini episode, Megan Senese shares a memorable story about skydiving on her 18th birthday, and how it became a lasting lesson about control, fear, and the moments in life when all you can do is jump.

Who this episode is for:

• Anyone standing on the edge of a big decision
• People trying to calculate every outcome before moving forward
• Lawyers, professionals, and creatives facing uncertainty
• Anyone who needs permission to act without guarantees

Episode takeaways:

• Why even “well-planned” risks can spiral out of control
• How trying to manage every variable can give a false sense of safety
• What happens when circumstances force you to move forward anyway
• Why action, not certainty, is often the turning point
• A reminder that courage doesn’t always mean feeling calm

A different way to think about taking risks:

• You can set all the criteria, and still lose control
• Risk doesn’t disappear just because you planned for it
• Fear doesn’t mean you’re doing the wrong thing
• Sometimes there is no perfect moment or exit strategy

Stay Connected:

If you want a partner to share ideas with or to walk you through a big decision, we’re always here for you. Connect with us here. 

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What does it take to be a different kind of leader in legal?

Sarah Ennor, Founder of Growth Counsel, is a former firm lawyer, and in-house counsel and compliance for big-bank asset managers, she felt the pressure to “fit in.” After receiving an ADHD diagnosis as an adult, she is on a mission to bring simple inclusion strategies to life through relatable stories. Culture, morale, and financial results improve when we marry revenue to respect, coach with curiosity, and begin to banish bias.
 
Sarah joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to talk about what happens when you stop chasing credibility through control, and start building it through presence, curiosity, and trust.

You’ll hear about:

• What Sarah wishes more legal leaders understood about team dynamics
• The invisible weight of credibility, and how she learned to set it down
• Why coaching helped her rewire how she showed up in the room
• Her take on legal ops, burnout, and building trust in high-pressure roles
• What makes a workplace feel safe (hint: it’s not perfection)

About Sarah Ennor:

Sarah Ennor is on a mission to make ADHD human. She works with law firms and organizations to make ADHD human and profitable through workshops and presentations to support their talent.

Learn More:

• Explore Sarah’s work at Growth Counsel

This episode #32 of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People is accredited for 35 minutes of EDI Professionalism hours for lawyers in Ontario!

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In this mini episode, Megan Senese shares a deeply human check-in about why relationships matter, how small actions can help us regain a sense of agency, and why resilience, not “self-care”, is what we need most right now.

Who this episode is for:

• Anyone feeling overwhelmed 
• Lawyers and professionals struggling to show up “as usual” when things aren’t normal
• People craving connection, grounding, and reassurance that they’re not alone

Episode takeaways

• How stage defines relationships as people, not transactions, optics, or metrics
• How talking it out with someone you trust can shift how you show up at work and in life
• Why one small action can interrupt feelings of helplessness
• How resilience looks different for everyone, and doesn’t require perfection
• A reminder that you don’t have to measure your response against anyone else’s

What you can do right now:

• Start with one small action: Movement helps break the feeling of being stuck
• Practice resilience, not perfection: Rest, pause, and refill your cup when needed
• Protect your nervous system: Set boundaries around news, screens, and noise
• Lean into community: Connection is a form of care and resistance
• Engage in ways that feel aligned: Donating, volunteering, pro bono work, or reaching out

Learn More:

• Donate if you are able: Support Minnesota
• Email Your Representatives
• Call Your Representatives
• Volunteer, do pro bono work:
  • ABA Pro Bono Opportunities
  • NY State Bar Pro Bono Opportunities
  • California State Bar Pro Bono Opportunities

Stay Connected:

If you’re feeling overwhelmed, know this: you’re not alone.

If you need an ear, a place to land, or someone to remind you that small things matter, we’re here. Always.

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Who this episode is for:

• Newly promoted law firm partners
• Senior associates preparing for partnership
• Lawyers navigating the shift from biller to business builder

Episode takeaways:

• Why becoming a partner doesn’t magically change your day-to-day, and what should
• How gratitude and relationship-building set the tone for your first year
• The right way to tell people you’ve made partner
• Why understanding how you get paid matters more than you think
• How to start building a portable book of business early

What to do after you’ve made partner:

• Pause and acknowledge the milestone: Take a moment to recognize the work it took to get here.
• Thank the people who helped you: Mentors, colleagues, and clients who supported your path.
• Let people know about it - intentionally! Share the news by asking how you can support them.
• Understand how your compensation works: Know where your income will come from and how origination is measured.
• Start building your own book of business: Focus on long-term autonomy, flexibility, and ownership.

Learn More:

• What Should You Do as a New Law Firm Partner? 5 Tips for Your First 90 Days

Stay Connected:

Have questions about navigating your first year as a partner? We’re always happy to talk through strategy, structure, and next steps.

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What happens when lawyers speak up, not just in court, but in defense of the rule of law itself?

In this powerful conversation, Neel Chatterjee joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to share the story behind Law Firm Partners United (LFPU): a grassroots movement that began with a single LinkedIn post and grew into a coalition of over 800 Big Law partners. Formed in response to executive overreach threatening the right to counsel, LFPU became a rare and urgent example of professional solidarity in action.

Neel opens up about the risks, the unexpected momentum, and why being a lawyer has never felt more meaningful. From his Attorney of the Year speech to organizing public amicus briefs, this is a conversation about courage, citizenship, and how even the most traditional institutions can change when people choose to act.

You’ll hear about:

• Why Neel started LFPU, and how it grew almost overnight
• The real risks Big Law partners faced when speaking out
• The constitutional stakes of recent executive orders
• How amicus briefs and town halls turned into tools of change
• What gives Neel hope about the future of the legal profession

About Neel Chatterjee:
Neel Chatterjee is a partner at King & Spalding and a nationally recognized technology litigator. He’s the founder of Law Firm Partners United, a coalition of 800+ Big Law partners defending the rule of law in response to executive overreach. His leadership earned him The American Lawyer’s 2025 Attorney of the Year award and national recognition for legal activism.

Learn More:

• Join Law Firm Partners United
• Watch Neel’s acceptance speech

This episode is brought to you by: ICVM Hawk

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They specialize in data-backed brand strategy, web design and development, SEO and AI-optimized content, and an AI-enabled marketing system designed to improve visibility, credibility, and long-term growth. ICVM Hawk's solutions help law firms and legal marketing teams scale without losing the trust that matters most.

Visit icvmhawk.com to learn how your firm can benefit. 

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Enjoy this encore conversation with Stephanie Harrison!

Stephanie Harrison is a bestselling author, podcast host, and founder of The New Happy, a movement grounded in the art and science of well-being. Stephanie holds a master’s in positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, formerly led learning at Thrive Global, and her work now reaches millions through her podcast, newsletter, and widely shared visual art.

Stephanie shares her journey from burnout to breakthrough, and why everything changed when she stopped chasing external validation and started redefining happiness on her own terms. She unpacks the difference between “Old Happy” and "New Happy".

Stay tuned until the end for a special treat from Stephanie.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Stephanie Harrison
• Check out New Happy

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Music Credits:
Track: Follow Your Heart
Artist: Neil Cross
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Enjoy this encore conversation with Bob Burg!

Bob Burg is the storyteller, with co-author John David Mann, behind The Go-Giver, a Wall Street Journal, and BusinessWeek bestseller that has sold over a million copies. Bob is a former TV personality and top-producing salesperson. He speaks with corporations, organizations, and at sales and leadership conferences worldwide on topics central to The Go-Giver. And if you weren’t aware, there is an entire Go-Giver series that includes Go-Givers Sell More, The Go-Giver Leader and The Go-Giver Influencer. He is also author of Adversaries into Allies and Endless Referrals. In his personal time, Bob is an unapologetic animal lover and serves as part of a South Florida rescue, foster, and adoption organization.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Bob
• Buy The Go Giver

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For Brian Scherer, the answer was to build something new: HeyCounsel, a legal tech platform turned thriving community for solo and small-firm lawyers. In this thoughtful and often funny conversation, Brian joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey to talk about reinventing legal practice, one relationship at a time.

What started as a no-code marketplace turned into a vibrant, supportive community for solo and small-firm lawyers. Brian gets candid about what didn’t work, what surprised him most, and why relationships, NOT billable hours, are still the heartbeat of great legal work.

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with Brian
• Learn more about HeyCounsel

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In this short episode, Megan Senese reflects on the complicated emotions that the holiday season can bring, especially for those navigating grief, anniversaries of loss, or simply a heaviness they can’t quite name.

This episode is a reminder that if December is difficult for you, you are not alone. And if it happens to be a good year for you? That’s okay too.

The throughline is this: none of us know what others are carrying, and offering more grace, patience, and humanity, at work and at home, can be the difference we all need.

Remember,
You’re not alone.
You don’t have to do this season alone.
You matter.
You are loved.
And you are important.

This episode contains discussions of domestic violence, childhood abuse, homelessness, and related trauma. Please take care while listening.

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, you can contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-7233 or text BEGIN to 88788.

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In this episode, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey are joined by Diana Lauritson, legal marketing leader, LMA board member, and a survivor with one hell of a story.

With raw honesty and unwavering courage, Diana opens up about her journey from a turbulent childhood and teenage homelessness to law school, leadership, and building a career in Big Law. She shares why she’s choosing to tell her story now, what it’s been like to post openly about trauma and healing on LinkedIn, and how she’s defining her brand on her own terms.

This episode is a powerful reminder that everyone brings a story to the table. Diana’s vulnerability is a gift, and her voice will stick with you long after the episode ends.

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with Diana
• Learn more about Boys Town

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If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. 

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This episode is brought to you by Celeritas Recruiting is a legal industry search firm that sits at the intersection of talent, strategy, and the business of law. Their work focuses on placing business professionals who drive growth and profitability inside law firms and professional services organizations — across business development, marketing, operations, finance, innovation, eDiscovery and technology. The company’s mission is simple: help build winning teams for clients and act as career counselors who provide strategic advice to candidates.

For more information visit them at www.celeritasinc.com or email Jason Caramanico at jason.caramanico@celeritasinc.com

With warmth, humor, and candor, Aneka shares what it means to succeed in legal on her terms, as a racialized lawyer, a mom, and a multidimensional human being. She opens up about finding her voice, navigating a “let them” era of life, and how she’s rewriting outdated definitions of what it means to be a “serious lawyer.”

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with Aneka
• Listen to her interview with The RKH
• Check out Aneka’s jewelry @houseofjaia on Instagram
• Check out Aneka’s songs

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Together, they unpack the realities of growing a book of business, navigating networking as introverts and extroverts, and rethinking the idea that there’s only one way to build relationships that lead to work. From big-law lessons to independent coaching insights, they share the approaches that actually work, and why “business development” is really just relationship development.

In this conversation, they cover:

• Why the most successful business development starts with relationships, not revenue
• How to build a strategy that feels authentic to you
• Why “small talk” might just be curiosity in disguise
• How to find motivation, spot your strengths, and do BD your own way

Ready to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat!

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Through honest reflection and hard-fought wisdom, Emily shares how she went from quietly burning out as a mid-level associate to finding purpose in well-being, mentorship, and authenticity. They discuss how high-achievers often struggle in silence, how our identities get tangled up in titles, and what it looks like to pursue success on your own terms, not the ones handed to you.

Learn more about our guest: 

• Connect with Emily
• Listen to her podcast, The Grace Period
• Check out her LinkedIn post

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Elaine shares the personal and professional experiences that led her to write Unlearning Silence, including why the question isn’t always how to speak up, but why we’ve stayed silent in the first place. Together, they explore how cultural conditioning, workplace dynamics, and fear of judgment shape our ability to use our voice, and how we can unlearn what no longer serves us.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Elaine Lin Hering
• Check out more from Elaine here
• Check out Elaine’s book, Unlearning Silence

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Ian shares the powerful story behind his “second ending,” a musical term turned life philosophy that helped him reconnect with a lifelong passion for music while navigating a high-powered legal career. He talks about studying conducting at Juilliard during the pandemic, how music and law are related to each other, and why every professional deserves permission to pursue the thing that lights them up.

This episode closes with a special performance excerpt from A Solar Symphony, a commissioned piece by Welsh composer Katie Jenkins, played by Ian’s Second Ending Ensemble at Jazz at Lincoln Center.

Learn more about our guest:

• Connect with Ian Carleton Schaefer
• Watch Ian’s work
• Learn more about Second Ending Ensemble

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William shares how resilience, setting boundaries, and staying authentic shaped his leadership. He explains why wellbeing practices like walking meetings, fitness, and meditation are game changers, and why focusing on people (not just the work) transformed his career. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone curious about leadership, career growth, and what it really takes to become a law firm CFO.

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If you’re navigating BigLaw pressure, struggling with business development or marketing decisions and want a confidential thinking partner, connect with us here. 

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This episode is brought to you by Celeritas Recruiting is a legal industry search firm that sits at the intersection of talent, strategy, and the business of law. Their work focuses on placing business professionals who drive growth and profitability inside law firms and professional services organizations — across business development, marketing, operations, finance, innovation, eDiscovery and technology. The company’s mission is simple: help build winning teams for clients and act as career counselors who provide strategic advice to candidates.

For more information visit them at www.celeritasinc.com or email Jason Caramanico at jason.caramanico@celeritasinc.com

Listen to the full interview with Stephanie here: 

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chasing-titles-missing-joy-redefining-success-with-new/id1785694022?i=1000723844608

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5VECTWHB5sZRdvuAdXJUdO?si=3138b975b8164bf6

Music Credits:
Track: Follow Your Heart
Artist: Neil Cross
License type: Music Standard
Source: Envato Market
License Info: https://audiojungle.net/item/follow-your-heart/7195577

In this honest, moving, and deeply affirming conversation, Stephanie shares her journey from burnout to breakthrough, and why everything changed when she stopped chasing external validation and started redefining happiness on her own terms. She unpacks the difference between “Old Happy” (think perfectionism, productivity, and proving yourself) and “New Happy” (being who you are and using that to help others).

This conversation explores how to unwind harmful cultural narratives, why helping others is the heart of true happiness, and how Stephanie's viral visuals started with just a few basic shapes and a whole lot of meaning.

Stay tuned until the end for a special treat from Stephanie.

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• Connect with Stephanie Harrison
• Check out New Happy

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Music Credits:
Track: Follow Your Heart
Artist: Neil Cross
License type: Music Standard
Source: Envato Market
License Info: https://audiojungle.net/item/follow-your-heart/7195577

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• Check out Red Cell Partners

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In this warm, funny, and deeply insightful conversation, Roy opens up about how he’s learned to lead without losing himself, including why he no longer ties his self-worth to professional validation, what helped him climb out of burnout, and how he approaches every CMO role with humility and curiosity. He shares the unexpected path that led him into legal marketing (spoiler: it involves penny loafers, a theater degree, and a rocking chair), his take on building true connection through content, and the power of karaoke. 

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• Check out Vedder Price

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He opens up about the challenges of showing up authentically in a firm environment, how social media and LinkedIn became key to his personal brand, and the value of taking risks to build a unique narrative. Khurram also dives into how his family life and values guide his work-life balance and the importance of prioritizing well-being while managing a growing business.

This conversation touches on everything from navigating career transitions and burnout to managing the emotional aspects of legal recruiting. Whether you’re considering a career pivot, seeking to refine your personal brand, or just trying to balance it all, Khurram’s insights are bound to resonate.

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• Learn more about Freshwater Counsel 

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David talks about the evolution of leadership, from hierarchical structures to fostering inclusive, flat teams that invest in each individual’s growth. He dives into the emotional journey of navigating his disability, learning to lead with kindness, and using his platform to advocate for others. Through his story, David offers valuable insights on creating a supportive environment in both the legal field and beyond.

This conversation explores personal and professional growth, the importance of mentorship, and why leadership is about more than just titles—it’s about the impact you make on others. Whether you're a seasoned leader, someone navigating burnout, or simply looking for a fresh perspective on success, David's story will resonate.

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She shares insights on managing personal and community trauma, what it takes to lead without a formal title, and why rejection isn’t always redirection. It can sometimes feel like robbery. Aubria also talks about the launch of scrappy girl project, her transition from law firm life, and how prayer, resilience, and self-awareness have shaped her journey.

This conversation dives deep into spirituality, self-leadership, and the unspoken emotional labor of being a “strong one.” Whether you're burnt out, building something new, or just looking for language for what you’ve been feeling, Aubria’s perspective will stick with you.

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• Check out scrappy girl project
• Buy Aubria's books

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Dan Barr is a longtime advocate for access to justice and a respected voice in Arizona’s legal community. Before joining the AG’s office, he spent over 37 years at Perkins Coie, where he led the pro bono program and represented the First Amendment Coalition of Arizona. Today, he continues to serve with purpose, collaborating across party lines and mentoring attorneys who are driven by more than just career success. Whether in the courtroom or online, Dan brings clarity, humility, and humor to some of the most complex challenges facing the legal field today.

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• Check out the Arizona Attorney General's Office

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Jonah Perlin is a senior fellow at the Center for Ethics and the Legal Profession at Georgetown University Law Center. He is also the host of How I Lawyer, a top 30 careers podcast for junior lawyers, where he shares stories about what it means to practice law and how to build a successful legal career. Jonah’s work spans legal practice, education, and ethics, and he is passionate about preparing the next generation of lawyers for success in a rapidly changing profession.

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• Check out Georgetown University Law Center
• Check out the How I Lawyer Podcast

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Michael Coston is the founder and CEO of Coston Consulting, a firm made up of powerhouse consultants: former CMOs, DEIB leaders, and BD experts, who help organizations drive growth through people-first strategy. He’s been named to Lawdragon’s 100 Leading Legal Consultants and Strategists, honored by the National Diversity Council as one of the 100 Most Influential African American Leaders in Business, and awarded the Black Leadership Award by Profiles in Diversity Journal.

Before launching Coston Consulting, Michael served as CMO at McKool Smith for nearly a decade and led BD and marketing initiatives at multiple Am Law 100 firms. He also headed up PR for the global beauty brand Tweezerman. He holds a master’s degree in Interpersonal and Intercultural Communication and dual bachelor’s degrees in English and Black Studies from the University at Albany. He’s also certified in Fostering Inclusion and Diversity from the Yale School of Management.

Michael is a firm believer in passion as a superpower, and he’s on a mission to help leaders and organizations unlock high performance by making space for people to thrive.

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• Check out Coston Consulting

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Aliza Shatzman is the President and Founder of The Legal Accountability Project, which works to ensure positive clerkship experiences and support those who face challenges. Aliza graduated from Washington University in St. Louis School of Law in 2019, aspiring to be a homicide prosecutor. She clerked in D.C. Superior Court for trial experience and insight into judicial decision-making. Law schools promote clerkships as prestigious, mentorship-driven opportunities. However, Aliza encountered the stark reality: a power imbalance that silences clerks, lack of workplace protections, and judges’ lasting influence over careers.

Her experience of gender discrimination, harassment, and retaliation derailed her aspirations. She later testified before Congress, exposing how federal judges are exempt from Title VII, leaving clerks without legal recourse.

From this, The Legal Accountability Project was born.

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• Connect with Aliza 
• Check out The Legal Accountability Project
• Check out the clerkship database
• If you would like to donate to The Legal Accountability Project

Additional support:

• ABA Assistance Programs
• Call or text 988 (Open 24/7/365)
• Psychology Today
• Zen Care
• Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers

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Bob Burg is the storyteller, with co-author John David Mann, behind The Go-Giver, a Wall Street Journal, and BusinessWeek bestseller that has sold over a million copies. Bob is a former TV personality and top-producing salesperson. He speaks with corporations, organizations, and at sales and leadership conferences worldwide on topics central to The Go-Giver. And if you weren’t aware, there is an entire Go-Giver series that includes Go-Givers Sell More, The Go-Giver Leader and The Go-Giver Influencer. He is also author of Adversaries into Allies and Endless Referrals. In his personal time, Bob is an unapologetic animal lover and serves as part of a South Florida rescue, foster, and adoption organization.

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• Buy The Go Giver

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For those who are not familiar with the origins of International Women's Day (IWD) it has been observed since the early 1900s. The history of International Women's Day (IWD) includes the first National Women's Day in 1909, the first IWD in 1911, and the UN's involvement starting in 1975. Controversy clouds the history of International Women’s Day. According to a common version of the holiday’s origins, it was established in 1907 to mark the 50th anniversary of a brutally repressed protest by New York City’s female garment and textile workers. But there’s a problem with that story: Neither the 1857 protest nor the 50th-anniversary tribute may have actually taken place.

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Anne is a licensed clinical psychologist with a doctorate in counseling psychology. She had stints at Harvard, Cambridge and the University of New Hampshire. She runs her own executive coaching and leadership consulting company with a focus on professional working parents. She is a clinical psychologist with an active private practice and a certification in Perinatal Mental Health, a certified executive & leadership coach, a RETAIN™ certified parental leave coach, and a consultant that addresses working parent policy at the corporate level. While at Harvard, Anne made a pivot after her second child to focus more directly on supporting women and mothers in their career and personal growth. Anne offers parental leave, executive and group coaching for women and because she is a licensed clinical psychologist, she also provides individual therapy for adults in the Cambridge, MA area. 

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• Connect with Dr. Anne Welsh
• Check out Anne's work 

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Ben Chiriboga is the Chief Growth Officer at Nexl. He is a former practicing lawyer turned legal technology executive at Nexl, an all-in-one legal technology platform built to help lawyers, marketers, and business development professionals work together to grow their law firm. Alongside his work at Nexl, Ben speaks, writes, podcasts, and creates content about how technology is evolving the business of law. Ben has had the privilege of speaking to audiences at LexLatin Summit, LegalGeek, Legal Marketing Association, Marketing Partners Forum, as well as various attorney bar associations around the world.

Ben is on a mission to help lawyers love the business of law… just like he’s learned to. 

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• Check out Nexl
• Subscribe to This Legal Life Podcast

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After 10 years at Goulston & Storrs in Boston, Kelly made the jump to join Moore & Van Allen as the firm’s very first Chief Marketing & Business Development Officer in North Carolina. Kelly is a fellow at the College of Law Practice Management and the Director of Member Engagement for the SALI (pronounced “Sally”) Alliance, a nonprofit publishing a standard taxonomy for the legal industry. 

She is an accredited partner in the Smart Collaboration Accelerator, a Certified Master Coach by Legal Sales and Service Organization, Inc. (LSSO), a Legal Lean Sigma Green Belt, and she is active in the Legal Marketing Association, most recently serving as co-chair for the Northeast Region Conference. Plus, she is a parent to both a human and a dog!

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• Check out Moore & Van Allen

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Join co-founders, Jennifer Ramsey and Megan Senese, as they discuss their jump from Big Law legal marketing two years ago into entrepreneur life, running a woman-owned legal marketing and business development fractional company for law firms and lawyers. 

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Your hosts, Megan Senese & Jennifer Ramsey, are here to showcase the human side of the legal world, from marketing and consulting to the very real struggles of balancing work with being human. 

This isn’t your typical, dry legal show. They’re bringing you real stories, candid conversations, and smart insights that remind you that outside of being a lawyer or legal marketer, what makes you human? 

So whether you’re navigating billable hours or breaking glass ceilings in a woman-owned practice, this podcast is for you. 

Stay human. Stay inspired. Namaste (or whatever keeps you human). 

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