Angela shares the moment she walked out of her doctor's surgery and decided she wasn't done. She talks candidly about navigating perimenopause alongside an autoimmune condition, becoming her own guinea pig, and the research rabbit hole that led her to build Eve Biology from the ground up. It's a story of rage turned into purpose and a business born out of refusing to accept that her best years were behind her.

The conversation digs into the science of midlife nutrition in an accessible, eye-opening way - from the role of adaptogens in calming anxiety and improving sleep, to why sugar becomes a bigger issue post-menopause, and why oestrogen loss puts women's heart health at real risk. Angela also gets refreshingly practical about building a product business: the regulatory hurdles, the power of focus groups, and why trusting your own instincts matters more than following everyone else's advice.

Covered in this episode:

• Angela's GP appointment that changed everything, and why she refused the antidepressants
• How women are shuffled out of their careers by unrecognised perimenopause symptoms
• Becoming her own guinea pig: a year of self-experimentation with nutrition and supplements
• What adaptogens are, how they work, and why ashwagandha was a game-changer for Angela
• The link between falling oestrogen, cortisol, anxiety and sleeplessness
• Why your nutritional needs change significantly in midlife - and the small tweaks that make a big difference
• The surprising findings from Eve Biology's focus group - and what the customers taught Angela
• Sugar, heart health and why oestrogen loss matters more than most doctors let on
• The content challenge every product business underestimates
• Eve Biology's exclusive discount for Wild, Wise and Working listeners - Listen to find out!

About My Guest: Angela Patton

Angela Patton is the founder of Eve Biology, a science-backed nutrition brand designed for women in midlife. With a background in digital marketing and strategy, Angela combined her professional expertise with hard-won personal experience to identify a gap the supplements industry had long ignored: women over 40. Eve Biology launched in 2023 and now ships across Europe and the US.

• Eve Biology website: https://www.evebiolog.com/ 
• Angela on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelaevebiology/

They talk honestly about the 'clusterf**k' that so many women navigate in their 40s and 50s: the sandwich generation, perimenopause, teenage children pulling away and aging parents pulling closer. But threaded through all of it is a real sense of possibility and purpose.

The conversation covers the challenges of the sandwich generation and spans from Lise's journey  running a 150-person talent tech business – wrestling with imposter syndrome in a bigger body – to completing a gruelling 100km Trail Walker across the South Downs, which sparked her Instagram account @walking_this_way. 

You'll find out about Lise's 'Welcome Home' project, housing single mothers and asylum seekers, and her work teaching midlife women how to invest through 'The Money Conversation'.

And then, of course, there's Lise's naked photo shoots – a powerful and hilarious exercise in body acceptance.

Covered in this episode:

• The midlife pivot and the 'clusterf**k' – menopause, teenage children, aging parents and more
• Why midlife is the time to make new friends – and let some old ones go
• Lise's journey from tech entrepreneur with imposter syndrome to Instagram community builder
• The founding story of @walking_this_way and the 100km South Downs Trail Walker
• Naked photo shoots and body acceptance
• The Welcome Home Project – housing homeless single mothers and asylum seekers
• Why midlife women need to start investing, and why it's never too late
• Bob – the voice in your head, and how to make peace with it

About My Guest: Lise Thorne

Lise Thorne is an entrepreneur, community builder, fellow podcast host and fierce advocate for midlife women. She founded Dynamic Futures, a talent tech organisation, in 2005 and grew it to a team of 150 people before her entrepreneurial journey took a more personal turn – training for the 100km South Downs Trail Walker, discovering the power of movement, and creating @walking_this_way.

She hosts The Walking This Way Podcast, runs The Money Conversation – teaching midlife women how to invest – and founded the Welcome Home Project. 
Lise on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/walking_this_way/
Walking This Way Podcast: https://walkingthisway.transistor.fm/
Lise on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lise-thorne-4101686/
The Welcome Home Project: https://livinginmagazines.co.uk/the-welcome-home-project/

Business shout outs:
Louise Jowsey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisejowsey/

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In this episode of Wild, Wise & Working, Jackie is joined by Kim Antoniou – award-winning entrepreneur and founder of Kafoodle, Auris Tech and Fonetti – to explore how midlife women can reinvent themselves, build purpose-led businesses, and create work that genuinely makes a difference.

Kim’s journey into tech didn’t come from a traditional background. Instead, it grew out of real-world challenges, curiosity, and a determination to design solutions that put people first. Together, Jackie and Kim talk candidly about confidence, courage, age, and what it really takes to start again in your 40s and beyond.

This is an episode for anyone who’s ever thought: “I’ve got more to give… I’m just not sure where to start.”

About my guest

Kim Antoniou is an award-winning entrepreneur and founder whose work focuses on designing meaningful technology that solves real problems and improves lives. Her companies span innovation, assurance, and tech-for-good – all rooted in deep listening, collaboration, and lived experience.
Kim's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-antoniou/
Kafoodle: https://www.kafoodle.com/
Auris Tech: https://www.auris.tech/
Fonetti: https://www.fonetti.com/

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This show is for women who feel there’s still something more to achieve, something they’ve been dreaming of or putting off for years. Whether it’s reinventing your career, chasing a personal challenge, or embracing a fulfilling second half of life, this is your space to explore, learn, and be inspired.

In Episode 1, I take you through my journey:

• Working as Brand Director of Topman, taking part in the launch of Topshop Oxford Circus in 1999 - the biggest and most popular destination fashion store in the world at the time.
• Facing life-changing challenges, including my husband’s serious illness, breast cancer, financial setbacks and caring for aging parents.
• Reinventing my life, flying solo and discovering what it truly means to live your best life in your second act.
• Why being wild, wise, and working isn’t about recklessness or grinding, it’s about freedom, drawing on your experience, and actively participating in life.

I also share:

• How this podcast will feature inspirational women entrepreneurs, leaders and change-makers.
• Opportunities for listeners to share your stories, ask questions, or even have your business featured on the show.
• A glimpse of the exciting episodes to come, starting with a 65-year-old tech entrepreneur tackling global literacy challenges.

Whether you’re feeling lost, curious or ready for your next chapter, this episode sets the tone for a podcast that celebrates resilience, courage, and reinvention.

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If you’re in your 40s, 50s or 60s and feeling that familiar pull - the itch that your next chapter could be your best one - this show is for you.

In each episode, Jackie sits down with extraordinary women who’ve ripped up the rulebook and reinvented their careers: founders, leaders, creatives and changemakers who’ve taken decades of resilience, experience and hard-won wisdom and transformed it into something remarkable.

You can expect:

• Honest conversations about pivots, plot twists and moments of self-doubt
• Practical insights you can apply to your own second act
• Mindset shifts to help you see midlife as a launch pad - not a deadline
• Inspiring stories of reinvention, courage and possibility

If you’re ready to feel empowered, motivated and reminded of just how powerful you already are, hit follow and come along for the journey.

Your next chapter starts here.

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