Maarten Bovend'aerde shares insights on avoiding over-engineering in RevOps, focusing on practical, revenue-driven strategies, and adapting to organizational realities.

Key Topics

Over-engineering in RevOps

Prioritization of Revenue-Driving Activities

Adapting RevOps to Organizational Reality

Sound Bites

"If it doesn't impact revenue, let it be."

"Less is more in RevOps."

"Focus on real-world, practical RevOps."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to RevOps and Guest Background

03:06 Learning from Mistakes: Over-Engineering in RevOps

05:55 Prioritization in Revenue Operations

09:02 Finding the Balance: Engineering vs. Simplicity

11:51 Client Expectations and Managing Adaptation

14:54 The Importance of Real-World Application

17:52 Building Around Team Strengths

20:47 Adaptation Challenges in Revenue Operations

23:54 Navigating Organizational Dynamics

26:48 Working with Different Organizational Sizes

29:58 Conclusion and Insights from Digital Reach

Maarten Bovend'aerde Linkedin
Digital Reach Online Solutions LinkedIn
Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn

Key Topics

Handling large-scale email mistakes

Leadership and accountability in crisis

Lessons learned from marketing errors

Takeaways

Own your mistakes openly and transparently.

Have a solution-focused mindset when addressing errors.

Build a culture of support and learning from mistakes.

Use mistakes as opportunities for growth and trust-building.

Jessica Crosby LinkedIn
Monarch Linkedin
Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn

In this episode of Revops 500, Mike Donnelly, CEO of Seventh Sense, shares his 13-year journey of building a successful email marketing intelligence platform. He discusses the challenges, lessons learned, and the importance of grit, customer focus, and innovative data-driven strategies in scaling a SaaS business.

Sound Bites

"It's a game of inches in sales."

"Customer success is my North Star."

"Building a business is life or death."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Mike Donnelly and 7Sense

00:54 Learning Opportunities in Entrepreneurship

02:23 From Geology to Email Marketing Intelligence

05:04 Tipping Points and Stressful Moments in Business

09:00 The Motivation Behind Seventh Sense

19:55 Crisis Management and Daily Operations

23:26 Customer Success and Email Communication

27:28 Onboarding and Implementation Challenges

30:04 Removing Friction for Customer Success

32:08 The Journey of Building a SaaS Product

37:24 The Grit Behind Entrepreneurship

40:10 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs

47:30 The Evolution of 7th Sense

54:43 The Future of Email Marketing

Mike Donnelly's LinkedIn
Seventh Sense LinkedIn
Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn

Takeaways

Mistakes are learning opportunities, not failures.
Accountability is essential in business relationships.
Team dynamics can significantly impact project outcomes.
Misalignment often becomes apparent only after issues arise.
Effective leadership requires balancing authority and collaboration.
Human relationships in business are complex and require understanding.
Customer relationships are akin to personal relationships.
Aligning team values is crucial for success.
Decisions in business often require compromise and understanding.
Leadership styles can evolve based on experiences.

Chapters

00:00 Embracing Mistakes as Learning Opportunities
02:57 The Importance of Accountability in Business
06:02 Aligning Expectations with Team Dynamics
09:02 Navigating Misalignment in Projects
12:01 The Role of Detachment in Decision Making
15:03 Learning from Customer Relationships
19:59 Navigating Business Relationships and Breakups
21:27 Achieving Team Alignment
23:47 Understanding Human Emotions in Decision Making
25:40 The Role of Leadership in Decision Making
27:53 Learning from Mistakes in Leadership
29:29 The Transition from Employee to Boss
31:54 Redefining the Concept of a Boss
36:41 Introduction to VendeMas and Its Mission

Gisele's LinkedIn
VendeMas LinkedIn
Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn

Takeaways
Mistakes are essential for growth and learning.
Owning your mistakes builds trust and relationships.
Perspective helps in managing the impact of mistakes.
Building relational assets is crucial in business.
Effective communication is key in escalations.
AI can enhance human interaction and understanding.
Listening deeply is vital in resolving conflicts.
Directness in communication fosters stronger relationships.
Mistakes can lead to valuable insights and skills.
Emotional intelligence plays a significant role in business relationships.

Sound Bites
"I remember the way I felt."
"I still love a Whopper."
"We should talk about mistakes more."

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Sarah McDevitt
04:20 Learning from Mistakes
10:34 Building Relationships in Business
14:46 Understanding Relational Assets
20:25 Reflections on Career Growth
25:43 Navigating Escalations and Communication
31:22 The Role of AI in Human Interaction
35:53 Conclusion and Podcast Promotion

Sarah McDevitt's Linkedin
Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn

Takeaways
Evan regrets trying to fit into traditional marketing roles.
Delegation is crucial for success in marketing.
Mental health plays a significant role in career satisfaction.
Failures can be valuable learning experiences.
Finding your niche can lead to greater job satisfaction.
It's important to recognize toxic work environments.
Emotional intelligence is key in marketing roles.
Understanding personal strengths can enhance career growth.
The marketing field requires diverse skill sets.
Self-awareness is essential for professional development.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Evan Patterson
01:27 The Pitfalls of Traditional Marketing Roles
04:41 The Power of Delegation in Marketing
07:28 Recognizing Toxic Work Environments
12:21 Finding Your Place in the Marketing Matrix
19:28 The Importance of Mental Health in Career Success
23:50 Learning from Failures and Rejections
29:10 The Future of Marketing and Personal Growth

Evan Patterson's LinkedIn

Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn
Computan Website

RevOps is not just about sales and marketing; it impacts the entire organization.
Breaking down silos is essential for effective RevOps.
Cross-functional collaboration is key to successful partnerships.
Understanding both your ideal customer profile and your partner's is crucial.
Customer success is a shared responsibility between partners and the company.
Building a RevOps strategy requires buy-in from all teams.
Partnerships can enhance customer experience and retention.
Mistakes in partnerships require accountability and open communication.
The future of RevOps will increasingly focus on partnerships as a growth strategy.
Success in RevOps is about enabling both internal teams and external partners.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Zoe Zankowski
01:38 Debunking the Myth: RevOps is More Than Go-to-Market and Customer-Facing Teams
03:14 Breaking Down Silos: The Role of Collaboration in RevOps
05:02 Managing Partnerships in a RevOps Model
07:59 Resolving Relationship Breakdowns in RevOps: Communication, Accountability, and Empathy
20:30 The Importance of Partnerships in Marketing
25:51 The Challenges and Autonomy of Working in a Startup
26:07 What Keeps Zoe Up at Night in RevOps
31:13The Rise of Partnerships in B2B SaaS
35:33 The Future of Partnerships: A Partner-Led Growth Model
38:58 The Role of RevOps in Enabling Successful Partnerships
41:27 Building a Successful RevOps Framework: Top-Down Buy-In and a Culture of Partnership

Zoe Zankowski's LinkedIn
PandaDoc Website

Sajeel's LinkedIn
Computan Website

Takeaways
Klemen reflects on the numerous mistakes made during his entrepreneurial journey.
The realization of their app not meeting market needs took 11 months.
Honest feedback is crucial for product development and iteration.
Data hygiene remains a significant challenge for many businesses.
AI can enhance data enrichment and improve sales processes.
Building relationships with users is essential for understanding their needs.
The importance of pivoting based on user feedback and market demands.
Klemen emphasizes the need for clean data in the age of AI.
The evolution of Sellestial's focus is a response to user pain points.
Klemen's reflections highlight the value of learning from past experiences.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Journey
02:23 Lessons from Mistakes
05:32 Iterative Development and User Feedback
08:22 The Importance of Honest Feedback
11:16 Pivoting the Business Model
14:00 Data Challenges and Solutions
16:59 Building with AI Capabilities
20:02 Realizations and Changes
22:43 Current Focus and Future Directions
25:44 Reflections on the Journey

Klemen's LinkedIn
Sellestial's website

Sajeel's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn
Computan website

Takeaways

Joaquin's biggest mistake involved enrolling 50,000 contacts in a workflow.
He learned the importance of checking workflows before making updates.
Communication with clients is crucial when mistakes happen.
Transparency helps maintain trust with clients after errors.
AI can complicate workflow management if not used carefully.
Best practices include double-checking and using test labels.
Sharing mistakes can help others learn and avoid similar issues.
CRM tools need better safeguards against mass errors.
Honesty about one's knowledge builds trust in professional relationships.
Handling pressure with transparency is key to resolving issues.

Joaquin's LinkedIn
Momentum's website

Sajeel's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn
Computan website

Takeaways
Jonas reflects on the importance of focus in business.
He emphasizes the need to say no to avoid overwhelm.
Koalify was born out of a recognized need for better data quality.
The startup journey involves navigating many challenges and learning from mistakes.
Customer experience is prioritized over immediate financial gain.
Partnerships play a crucial role in scaling the business.
Jonas and his co-founder maintain a strong alignment in their vision.
The market for their product is niche but significant enough to pursue.
They are currently in an experimentation phase for future product development.
The dynamics between co-founders can greatly influence the startup's success.

Links

Jonas De Mets' LinkedIn
Koalify's Website

Sajeel's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn
Computan website

Max's humorous take on his name and identity.
The importance of learning from mistakes in professional settings.
Reflecting on childhood regrets and the impact of persistence.
Navigating parenting challenges and encouraging kids to stick with activities.
The struggle of maintaining creativity in content creation.
The complexities of event management in a CRM system.
The need for better integration between event management and CRM tools.
Understanding the importance of tracking event ROI effectively.
The unique challenges of managing events in HubSpot.
The potential for innovation in event management solutions.

Links
Max Cohen
Sajeel Qureshi
Computan

Takeaways
Buy-in from leadership is not enough for success.
Understanding the importance of communication in organizations is crucial.
RevOps requires a shift in perspective from traditional sales and marketing.
Complexity in operations can hinder effective change.
Data and systems play a vital role in enhancing customer experience.
Sales and customer success must work together for better outcomes.
Cross-functional collaboration is essential for organizational success.
AI can help organizations adapt and innovate more quickly.
Rethinking customer relationships can improve retention and satisfaction.
The future of CRM lies in understanding the entire customer journey.

Links
Chris Carolan
Sajeel Qureshi
Computan

Chris's biggest mistake was staying in one job for too long.
He realized the importance of challenging oneself in a career.
Transitioning to a new role opened up a world of possibilities.
Sales processes can become routine and mundane over time.
Learning from mistakes is crucial for growth.
Every sales organization has unique challenges and processes.
Mindset plays a significant role in problem-solving.
Teaching others can also lead to personal growth.
Continuous learning is essential in a rapidly changing environment.
Collaboration with colleagues enhances creativity and problem-solving.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Chris Grant and His Journey
00:43 The Biggest Mistake: Staying Too Long in One Place
06:17 The Tipping Point: Transitioning to a Startup
09:22 From Sales to Consultancy: A Natural Evolution
12:07 Learning from Mistakes: The Call That Changed Everything
14:33 The Gradual Shift: Becoming a Consultant
17:20 Understanding Unique Sales Processes
19:58 The Importance of Data and Reporting in Sales
20:32 Reflecting on Career Choices
22:35 The Joy of Continuous Learning
25:32 Teaching and Problem Solving
28:25 Mindset and Questioning
34:23 A Day in the Life at Babel Quest

LinkedIn Links
Chris Grant
Babel Quest
Sajeel Qureshi
Computan

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to RevOps and HubSpot Mistakes
00:57 The Importance of Regular Audits
02:59 Learning from Major Mistakes
06:04 Creating Effective Health Checks
08:47 The Role of Checklists in Operations
12:02 Adapting to Changes in Client Needs
14:55 The Evolution of HubSpot Tools
18:00 Diagnosing Lead Generation Issues
24:49 Understanding Customer Journeys
28:19 The Importance of Journey Mapping
30:12 Uncovering Customer Needs
32:45 The Art of Asking the Right Questions
36:40 Learning from Mistakes
39:43 Common Mistakes in Client Interactions
42:54 Transformative Moments in Business
45:50 Embracing Imperfection in Business

Takeaways
Regular audits of HubSpot portals are crucial for success.
Mistakes often lead to valuable lessons in RevOps.
Checklists can help ensure all aspects of a portal are functioning properly.
Understanding customer journeys is key to improving service.
Asking the right questions can uncover deeper insights.
Common mistakes include focusing too much on technical requests.
Effective communication with clients is essential for success.
Using data to inform decisions can prevent future issues.
Automation tools can enhance visibility and efficiency.
Continuous improvement is necessary for long-term success.

LinkedIn Links

Amber Kemmis
Growth

Sajeel Qureshi
Computan

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Complacency in Business

02:42 The Journey of Building a Team

05:49 Understanding Elephant Catchers vs. Fishermen

08:46 Hiring Challenges and Team Dynamics

11:31 Navigating Growth and Change

14:37 The Emotional Toll of Team Changes

21:16 The Journey to Success

24:05 Building a Transparent Organization

27:08 Implementing New Methodologies

28:40 Navigating Team Dynamics

35:00 Recognizing and Addressing Plateaus

39:00 Internal Solutions vs. External Help

Takeaways

Complacency can lead to significant business mistakes.

Recognizing the need for change is crucial for growth.

Building a diverse team is essential for tackling complex projects.

The journey to elite status is just the beginning of new challenges.

Hiring the right people can make or break a project.

Team dynamics can be affected by the introduction of new members.

Transparency in communication helps manage team changes.

Learning from past mistakes is vital for future success.

Emotional connections with team members can complicate leadership decisions.

Implementing effective methodologies can improve team performance.

LinkedIn Links

Abhinav Sahai
Niswey

Sajeel Qureshi
Computan

Takeaways

• RevOps is often misunderstood as solely being about software administration, but it is a strategic role that requires a wide range of skills.
• In addition to technical skills, RevOps professionals need to be proficient in prioritization, project management, goal setting, overcoming objections, and process mapping.
• There are no strict prerequisites for becoming a RevOps professional, but a background in various functions across the business can be beneficial.
• One of the challenges in RevOps is fending off requests from different departments and proving the value of RevOps work.
• Common problems in RevOps include dealing with bad data and articulating the value of RevOps work.
• Jen Bergren is writing a book titled 'What is RevOps?' to provide clarity and create career paths in the field. Documentation plays a crucial role in various aspects of a career, such as training new hires, seeking promotions, and improving team efficiency.
• Good documentation is clear, user-focused, and incorporates multiple formats to cater to different learning styles.
• The future of documentation is not threatened by AI, as robots cannot extract the context and history behind the information like humans can.
• Jen's weekly newsletter is a curated collection of diverse and interesting content that aims to save people time and share valuable resources.
• The act of taking notes and documenting processes helps individuals understand and learn more about the subject matter.

Sound Bites

• "RevOps people are just software admins or tool people, that revops is not strategic."
• "It's all about frameworks and project management and goal setting and prioritizing and overcoming objections and big picture things that lead people to success that usually aren't taught."
• "We teach prioritizing, like how to prioritize projects, how to make a roadmap of your projects and how to present that information so that everyone can agree on like this is what you're doing."
• "I also used documentation to try to get a promotion because at one corporate job I had, like my manager changed five times in one year. Nobody knew what I was doing."
• "I would say that it is clear that it's written for the user and not for yourself unless you are the only user."
• "Building that culture of document using documentation of communication of when you're answering someone's question also including the documentation as a reminder."

Chapters

00:00 Dispelling the Myth: RevOps is More Than Software Administration
03:01 Teaching Strategic Skills in RevOps Bootcamps
05:24 The Importance of Making Your Work Visible in RevOps
08:47 Dealing with Common Problems in RevOps
11:46 Jen Bergren's Journey into RevOps and Her Upcoming Book
24:58 The Importance of Documentation in Career Development
26:33 Creating User-Focused and Multi-Format Documentation
34:06 The Future of Documentation and AI
43:46 Jen's Weekly Newsletter: Sharing Valuable Resources
48:48 The Learning Power of Taking Notes and Documenting Processes

Links

Jen Bergren's LinkedIn

Sajeel's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn

Pete shares his observations on the changing market dynamics and the need for businesses to differentiate themselves. He also explains the various support channels and resources available to DataBox customers.

The conversation highlights the significance of customer-centric strategies in driving growth and retention. DataBox is a product that helps professional services firms, particularly marketing agencies, better guide their clients using data. It offers goal-setting, benchmarking, forecasting, and correlation capabilities to help companies understand their performance and make informed decisions.

The focus is empowering teams to own certain parts of the business and holding them accountable for results. Data is a critical management tool that allows companies to measure and track their performance, identify opportunities for improvement, and diagnose problems. Marketing should focus more on creating a unique and differentiated business informed by qualitative research and feedback.

Takeaways

• The buyer's journey is not a straight line from prospect to customer; it is a complex and non-linear process.
• Collaboration and networking with industry peers and potential partners can lead to indirect sales and referrals.
• Businesses need to differentiate themselves in a crowded market to stand out and attract customers.
• Customer support and success are crucial for driving growth and retention.
• DataBox offers a range of support channels, including chat, help docs, account management, and technical services. DataBox helps professional services firms better guide their clients using data.
• DataBox offers goal-setting, benchmarking, forecasting, and correlation capabilities.
• Data is a critical management tool for measuring and tracking performance
• Marketing should focus on creating a unique and differentiated business
• Qualitative research and feedback are important for making informed decisions

Sound Bites

• "Buyers take a crazy circuitous start-stop journey from going from unaware of a problem and unaware of a solution to becoming aware and then to the point where they ultimately make a decision to change something and buy a product."
• "The problem I see with most marketing and sales org is like, they spend money on paid ads, they put people to landing pages, they capture lead. Then the sales team goes crazy trying to pitch them, pitch them, pitch them. And then if they don't buy in 30 days or don't respond to 16 emails, they give up. And so it's so one track."
• "Most people basically launch a commodified business and then they wonder why their cold outreach doesn't go to get answered. They wonder why they're constantly dropping in search rankings for stuff that they used to rank for just a month ago. They wonder why their following isn't growing, why they aren't getting engagement on their LinkedIn."
• "Our core focus is helping companies get a handle on their performance so that they can better achieve what they want."
• "Goal tracking is important for any well-run company."
• "Businesses will operate in the future with software that pulls everything together and a few smart people paying attention to everything."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:36 Demystifying the Linear Buyer's Journey in RevOps

07:45 Differentiation: Standing Out in a Crowded Market

13:20 The Evolution of Customer Support and Success

19:32 Support Channels and Resources for DataBox Customers

27:19 The Complexity of DataBox's Product and Challenges

28:23 The Challenges of Managing Multiple Markets

30:08 Helping Companies Get a Handle on Performance

35:03 The Future of Business Operations

41:41 The Critical Role of Data in Management

48:57 Creating a Unique and Differentiated Business

53:04 The Importance of Qualitative Research in Marketing

Links

Pete Caputa's LinkedIn
Databox' LinkedIn
Databox Website

Sajeel's LinkedIn
Computan's LinkedIn
Computan website

Takeaways

• RevOps is about putting systems in place to track and adjust variables
• Business acumen and experience are essential for success in RevOps
• Implementing RevOps in smaller organizations can be challenging due to limited resources
• Technology, such as HubSpot, can help automate processes for smaller organizations
• Transparency and communication are vital in managing teams
• The future of RevOps involves reducing manual work and focusing on forward-thinking strategies. Managing remote teams requires more than just sharing documents; it involves effective communication and understanding cultural differences.
• Finding the right talent involves a combination of HR support, interviews, and evaluating problem-solving skills.
• Creating a company culture that allows for intercommunication and growth requires understanding the team's vibe and selecting team members accordingly.
• A successful rev ops operation focuses on the intersection of sales, marketing, and customer service and keeps the flywheel spinning.
• Humor and playfulness can be valuable in building relationships and creating a positive work environment.

Sound Bites
"RevOps is really just putting the systems and identifying and putting in the systems in place to see the work that you're doing and give you the ability to adjust variables."
"Implementing RevOps in smaller organizations is harder due to knowledge, expectation, and resource allocation."
"With tools like HubSpot, smaller organizations can do a lot with automation and pay practically nothing."
"That's good to while."
"The soft skills to be successful."
"It's like cookies and cream, it kind of works."

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:34 Challenges of Implementing RevOps in Smaller Organizations
07:09 Transparency and Communication in Managing Teams
14:24 The Future of RevOps: Reduction of Manual Work and Forward-Thinking Strategies
19:53 Personalization in RevOps
24:22 Choosing the Right Tools for RevOps
26:27 Managing Remote Teams and Building Company Culture
33:05 The Importance of Humor in the Workplace

Links

Chris Nault LinkedIn
Growth Operations Firm's LinkedIn
Growth Operations Firm website

Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn

Computan's Website
Computan's LinkedIn

Takeaways

• Effective sales involves having meaningful conversations and understanding the needs of potential customers.
• Spam messages are not an effective sales strategy and can be counterproductive.
• Introductions from trusted sources can help establish credibility and build relationships with prospects.
• Salespeople should focus on solving customers' problems rather than pushing their products or services.
• Asking the right questions and digging deeper can uncover the obstacles preventing prospects from purchasing. Self-limiting beliefs can also prevent people from taking necessary actions in sales.
• Cold calling may not be effective in today's world, so finding alternative ways to attract customers is essential.
• Building relationships and finding common ground are essential to successful sales conversations.
• Work-life balance is about integrating work and personal life rather than separating them.
• Enjoying what you do is essential for long-term success in sales.

Quote from the episode: "If I want to meet somebody that I don't know, I get somebody to introduce me that does know them."

00:00 Introduction and Excitement
01:00 Rev Ops Myths and Spam Messages
06:30 Solving Customers' Problems
10:10 Asking the Right Questions
28:00 Finding Creative Ways to Attract Customers
29:13 Role-Playing and Exploring Strategies
33:20 The Importance of Building Relationships
36:31 Exploring Work-Life Balance in Sales

Links:

Rick Roberge's LinkedIn
164thFloor's Linkedin

Computan's Website
Computan's LinkedIn

RevOps Myth: I know what RevOps is.

Quote of the Show: Motivation or excitement is a luxury

Caleb King discusses RevOps, its definition, and its application in a startup environment. He shares that RevOps is still in the hype phase and has no singular one-line definition.

He explains that RevOps is about finding more people to talk to, translating that into the system, and setting up processes to achieve sales goals. They also discuss the importance of customer success and the alignment between a startup's sales, marketing, and service teams.

Caleb emphasizes the need for speed and the willingness to iterate processes as the company grows. They touch on the technical challenges of building a RevOps system in a startup and the importance of increasing top-line revenue.

In this conversation, Caleb King, Director of Partnerships at Superd, discusses the challenges that HubSpot partners face in adopting new systems and processes. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on business problems and finding the right tools to solve them.

Caleb also shares his sales and account management journey, highlighting the value of critical thinking and human-driven innovation. He envisions a future where technology supports human decision-making and problem-solving. Superd software acts as a floating Chrome extension, guiding users through their daily tasks and helping businesses create a better client experience.

Links:

Caleb King's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caleb-king-/
Supered’s Website: https://www.supered.io/

Sajeel Qureshi's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sajeelqureshi/
Computan's Website: https://www.computan.com/
Computan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/computan

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RevOps Myth:

• “RevOps is just another marketing thing.”
• Briana is suggesting that instead of treating RevOps as just another marketing thing, business leaders, owners, and employees should collaborate to obsess over their customers. She believes that working together towards a common goal would make it easier to educate and qualify customers, leading to closing more deals with intention and at a faster pace.

Takeaways: 

• "Collaborate to create effective sales strategies": Understand the importance of collaboration within the organization. Break down the silos between your marketing, sales, content, and operation teams. Communicate with one another to understand each department's needs and challenges. 
• "Assign a content owner within your team": An essential role that needs to be fulfilled within your team is that of a 'content owner'. Someone needs to be responsible for generating and managing educational content that responds to commonly asked questions by potential customers. This content should educate the customers and be available before any sales conversation takes place.
• "Practice assignment selling": This method allows your marketing and sales team to work together to educate your customers before a sales call, using educational content you provide upfront. 
• "Use AI, but have a human oversee it": You can leverage AI for several tasks, from writing to data analysis. However, it is essential to have a human element involved, as someone needs to own the process to ensure the quality and relevance of the AI to your specific needs and goals.
• "Fully integrate Teams": Don't just form different teams within your organization; instead, work towards making them fully integrated units that understand and appreciate the work of their fellow departments. For example, your sales team should be well-versed in the marketing content that your customers are consuming, and vice versa.
• "Ensure CEO involvement": For a successful RevOps implementation, it is crucial to have absolute buy-in from the CEO. The CEO doesn’t have to be on the front lines doing the everyday work. Still, they need to be actively involved in the process, making themselves accessible, knowing what's going on, and showing genuine interest and backing for the initiatives.
• "Nurture existing clients": Do not just focus on bringing new clients; ensure you also take care of the existing clients. Use content to keep them educated and engaged, and consider them partners in your business. Making the current customers satisfied could lead to more repeated business, which will increase the company's growth and profit.

Quote of the Show:

• “​​If our buyers are changing, we need to change along with them.” - Briana Walgenbach

Links:

• Briana Walgenbach’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briana-meisel 
• IMPACT’s Website: https://www.impactplus.com 

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RevOps Myths:

• RevOps is only for large enterprises and businesses. 
  • Alaina believes RevOps can benefit businesses of all sizes, improving efficiency, collaboration, and revenue generation.

Takeaways: 

• Align Marketing and Sales: Ensure that the marketing and sales departments are communicating well. Avoid running them as separate silos to ensure overall business growth.
• Utilize Available Tech Resources: Utilize platforms like HubSpot or Salesforce for seamless integration of your sales and marketing efforts. These platforms provide valuable data that can be used to measure the effectiveness of different marketing channels.
• Implement RevOps Regardless of Business Size: Understand that RevOps is not just meant for large businesses. Even small and medium-sized businesses can benefit from RevOps by improving efficiency and collaboration, leading to enhanced revenue generation.
• Consider the Human Element: Remember that despite the increasing role of AI and technology, there is still a need for the human element, especially in areas like customer service, where direct interaction and empathy matter.
• Invest in Continuous Learning and Improvements: The field of RevOps is constantly changing, so commit to ongoing education. Utilize free resources and training to keep your knowledge up-to-date and stay competitive in the field.
• Create Value Through Understanding Clients: Take the time to understand each client's specific needs and circumstances. Use that understanding to craft strategies that deliver the best value to the client and provide genuine solutions to their problems.
• Practice Efficient Communication: Effective communication across different departments of an organization is paramount to ensure that everyone is clear on their roles and responsibilities, which in turn leads to better revenue operations. 

Quote of the Show:

• “There is so much opportunity to create such an amazing life for yourself.” - Alaina Corsini

Links:

• Alaina Corsini’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alaina-corsini 
• Red Shark Digital’s Website: https://www.redsharkdigital.com 

Ways to Tune In:

• Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revops-500-podcast/id1664472466?uo=4 
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• Podchaser: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/revops-500-5099575 
• Listen Notes: https://www.listennotes.com/c/286dcf154b674018ad35b986d14f664f/ 
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/hNVTckvePsU

RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• RevOps processes need to be complex and involve a large team. 
• Casey Peddicord argues that businesses often make their processes unnecessarily complex and that the focus should be on simplifying and streamlining the process. The myth suggests that RevOps requires a complicated system with extensive workflows and automation, but Casey believes that it can be easy and straightforward.

Takeaways: 

• Keep things Simple - The process of sales or any business strategy does not have to be complex. It can be simple and still provide a lot of value.
• Slow down to Speed Up - Taking the time to map out the business process thoroughly can help in identifying the top priorities which can ultimately lead to faster business growth.
• Leverage Technology but Don’t Overcomplicate - While technology is crucial in today’s business world, having too many software solutions in place can complicate the process.
• Continual Improvement - Always looking for the next level of improvement and growth will keep the business moving forward.
• Not Everything Needs ROI - Some actions, like the personal touch of a COO sending a video message to customers, may not have direct ROI but significantly contribute to creating a positive customer experience.
• Get Outside Help - It is beneficial to bring in a third party for a different perspective. This view helps you to identify blind spots and make your process smoother.

Quotes of the Show:

• “Have the self-awareness to go: hey, we got to fix something” - Casey Peddicord
• “You're so in the details of making it perfect when it could have been 90% and you could have been down the road already” - Casey Peddicord

Links:

• Casey Peddicord’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseypeddicord 
• Globalia’s Website: https://www.globaliadigital.com/en 

Ways to Tune In:

• Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revops-500-podcast/id1664472466?uo=4 
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• Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/1052213 
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• Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/show/6101085 
• Player FM: https://player.fm/series/series-3480832 
• Podchaser: https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/revops-500-5099575 
• Listen Notes: https://www.listennotes.com/c/286dcf154b674018ad35b986d14f664f/ 
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/46UQdsWLiLE

RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

Stay tuned for valuable insights where Chris underscores the importance of standardized data, leveraging science for strategic decisions, and advocating for a fresh approach centered around account activations, conversions, and a detailed analysis of buyer-centric data.

RevOps Myths:

• RevOps is considered the most important function in Go-To-Market, but in practice, companies tend to understaff and underfund it, resulting in it primarily functioning as order takers with insufficient proactive work. The belief in its paramount importance aligns differently with the limited investment and prioritization it receives in many companies.

Takeaways: 

• Companies should strategically split their RevOps function into tactical and strategic components. While many focus on tactical, operational tasks, there's a crucial need for a dedicated segment that utilizes standardized data and science to inform strategic decisions, including budget allocation and key performance indicators (KPIs) for marketing, sales, and SDRs. This shift can enhance overall productivity and ensure a more comprehensive approach to go-to-market strategies.
• Move beyond siloed functions labeled as RevOps. Instead, rethink and integrate the entire go-to-market strategy. Challenge traditional operating models like the Demand Waterfall and SQO, fostering collaboration across marketing, sales, and customer success. Break free from the assembly line approach to create a more interconnected and effective revenue process.
• Shift from traditional funnel metrics to a new operating model focused on account activations, conversions, hero pipeline, and close one revenue. Change KPIs to align with overall business outcomes, moving beyond the flawed demand waterfall. Adopt a granular approach, analyzing data from the buyer's perspective, not internal departments, to optimize for proven buyer journeys. Break away from the singular funnel view to identify program-specific win rates, enabling a more strategic and effective company strategy.
• ​​Redefine qualified pipeline based on a dynamic metric like the hero definition, tied to a six-month rolling historical win rate greater than 25%. This shifts focus from arbitrary stage assessments to outcomes aligning with sales quotas and revenue attainment. By connecting marketing and sales through a win rate metric, companies can dynamically adjust their goals, fostering integrated and aligned operations between the teams.
• Companies should be concerned about the lack of standardization in revenue operations, as inconsistency in defining data leads to varied interpretations across teams. To overcome this, prioritize standardizing the data model for revenue, akin to how companies use GAAP principles for financial reporting. Strive for a shared, common data model that allows for customization but ensures a unified understanding of key metrics and informs strategic decisions across the executive and go-to-market teams.
• Mature companies often don't face a data collection problem but struggle with data structure and processing. Transform existing data into a standardized model, identifying gaps and best practices. Implementing these changes allows for real-time analysis, offering a significant advantage over the manual, time-consuming approach. Companies should focus not just on looking at data in real-time but ensuring they analyze the right aspects in the right ways for more meaningful insights.
• Rethink your approach to go-to-market strategy and data analysis beyond current best practices, which may be outdated. Acknowledge the dynamic changes in the business landscape since the last best practices update. Shift organizational thinking towards a holistic strategy rather than adhering to assembly-line models that prioritize metrics like MQLs or stage one pipeline. Align goals and teams for more meaningful outcomes and improved conversions to hero pipeline or revenue.

Quote of the Show:

• “So much has changed. It's not just about looking at the data in a different view, it's shifting your organizational thinking around an entirely new way of going to market and a new way of collecting and looking at the data around a holistic go-to-market strategy.” - Chris Walker

Links:

• Chris Walker’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriswalker171 
• Refine Labs Website: https://www.refinelabs.com 
• B2B Revenue Vitals Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/b2b-revenue-vitals/id1511588213 
• Refine Labs TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@refinelabs 

Ways to Tune In:

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• Listen Notes: https://www.listennotes.com/c/286dcf154b674018ad35b986d14f664f/ 
• YouTube: https://youtu.be/JeZqYGeck18

RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• RevOps is simply an extension of Sales Operations

Takeaways: 

• RevOps is more than an extension of SalesOps; it aligns sales, marketing, and customer success for seamless customer experiences, requiring a holistic approach beyond just technology.
• Successful RevOps leadership requires a hands-on approach, and an understanding of the daily challenges of marketing, sales, and customer success to achieve alignment and prevent disjointed technology solutions in organizations.
• Effective RevOps goes beyond technology; it requires a sound strategy and processes. Transitioning between tech vendors will only succeed with proper alignment and execution.
• Small companies face similar challenges as larger ones, emphasizing the importance of strategy, processes, and people in ensuring efficient operations and maximizing opportunities.
• Maintaining alignment during growth and acquisitions is crucial. The "Embrace and Enhance" strategy helps integrate diverse technologies seamlessly, but achieving alignment remains a persistent challenge, demanding careful planning.
• Seamless company integrations demand a dedicated leader overseeing alignment across diverse departments, business systems, and technologies. Despite the challenges, meticulous coordination is essential for success.
• Acquiring companies involves navigating challenges in leadership, integration, rebranding, and customer education across marketing, sales, and customer success. Success in these endeavors contributes to professional growth and market recognition.

Quote of the Show:

• “They gave you a dollar because they expect to get 10 out of it. When you can do that for them more efficiently, That gets them on to do the thing they want to do, the impact they want to make in this world.” - Brian Stout

Links:

• Brian Stout’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thinkstout 
• Differ’s Website: https://www.differstudios.com 
• Personal Website: https://thinkstout.com 
• Brian Stout’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/thinkstout 
• Cracking ALZ Website: ​​https://www.crackingalz.com 

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• YouTube: https://youtu.be/w5U97uRGLh8

RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• The perception that RevOps is a recent innovation is a misconception. Dylan, however, proposes that the truth is that businesses, knowingly or unknowingly, have always engaged in aligning their marketing, sales, and customer service efforts with revenue. The true essence of the RevOps surge lies in recognizing this existing synergy and intentionally maximizing its potential. Rather than a revolution, it's a strategic evolution, urging businesses to delve deeper into their existing practices. The excitement stems not from adopting something entirely new, but from refining the familiar, making intentional what was once implicit. This realization serves as a catalyst, urging businesses to embrace change, optimize processes, and create a more cohesive, revenue-driven ecosystem.

Takeaways: 

• From Unconscious to Intentional. Every business practices RevOps in some form. Embrace intentional collaboration between marketing, sales, and customer service. Regularly dissect data on referrals, lead quality, and client retention to boost revenue. RevOps isn't just theory; it's actionable synergy, starting with intentional collaboration and data-driven decisions.
• Goals without deadlines are mere wishes. By adopting short-term objectives and embracing change, businesses can refine processes, foster collaboration, and increase revenue intentionally. The key lies in accountability, direct feedback, and a shared commitment to growth, enabling businesses to evolve and succeed in their RevOps journey
• Guided by Revenue, Fueled by Dedication. The ultimate goal is evident in revenue growth, a testament to the commitment to RevOps processes. Success isn't just a fuller bank account; it's about nurturing talent, enabling teams, and fostering client growth. The journey of RevOps is perpetual evolution, powered by continuous improvement and insightful data analysis.
• Understanding the Human Journey in marketing, it's not just about campaigns; it's about understanding the entire customer journey. From grabbing a brochure amidst daily chaos to walking into the store, every step matters. Tracking campaign metrics, POS data, and customer feedback creates a holistic view. Whether it's a pizza joint or a B2B enterprise, measuring every interaction transforms marketing from spam to meaningful engagement, shaping businesses' success.
• Every company, big or small, is on a unique RevOps path. Even those with advanced systems can find room for improvement. Recognizing customers as inputs, not outputs, reveals opportunities like cross-selling. Identifying low-hanging fruit and focusing on efficiency are key. Success lies in understanding each company's individual needs and knowing when and how to enhance their RevOps journey.
• Selling Like a Human: Genuine Connection Over Sales Tactics. Authenticity is key. Embracing quirks and kindness, establishing genuine rapport, and being transparent about budget discussions foster trust. The essence of 'Selling Like a Human' lies in real connections, not scripted sales techniques. Being true to oneself resonates more profoundly with clients, fostering meaningful and lasting relationships.
• RevOps Like a Human: Embrace Radical candor and genuine collaboration. Transparency, humility, and data-driven experimentation define successful RevOps strategies. Just as in authentic human connections, ego takes a back seat, and partnerships flourish through mutual respect and celebration of collective wins.

Quote of the Show:

• “Being willing to be bold and to try things and not be afraid of failure is a resounding story of both my career path, but also how we help clients do really well.” - Dylan Wickliffe
• “Your email is spam until it's not. No matter how great your email is, no matter how hard you worked on it, it is spam until it converts.” - Dylan Wickliffe

Links:

• Dylan Wickliffe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylanwickliffe 
• Media Junction’s Website: https://www.mediajunction.com 
• Dylan Wickliffe’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/dylandoubleyou 
• Dylan Wickliffe’s Personal Website: https://dylanwickliffe.com 

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myth:

• Nicole Highlights the misconception that complexity and overengineering are necessary components of successful RevOps. She emphasizes the importance of simplicity in RevOps, highlighting that the true purpose of RevOps is to make processes easier, simpler, and more profitable, rather than complicating things with unnecessary complexity and wild ideas.

Takeaways: 

• In RevOps, it's crucial to focus on mastering the fundamentals and creating a solid foundation, such as defining common terms and processes, before delving into complex technical implementations. Simply having a strong starting layer enables effective experimentation and innovation in the RevOps world.
• Understanding how a company makes money and optimizing the buyer's journey is crucial in RevOps. It's not just technical implementation; it's improving efficiency, identifying losses, and accelerating revenue generation. Tools can help, but the essence of RevOps lies in core processes, not just technology.
• RevOps, rooted in principles like Lean and Six Sigma, focus on efficiency and maximizing output. While tech-enabled tools enhance these efforts, understanding the core processes independently of technology is crucial. Start with the process, then leverage tools to support it effectively, instead of shaping processes around available technology.
• In the current economic climate, simplicity is key in RevOps. Before overengineering processes with complex tools and automation, start with basic mapping and understanding. Many organizations can use simple systems, especially when resources are limited. Simplify processes, avoid unnecessary automation, and build for manageable scale.
• Nicole highlights the importance of understanding technology and processes in digital marketing and business operations. Starting out by mastering SEO and e-commerce, she demonstrated the power of tech in improving business processes. Her success was driven by her ability to bridge technical expertise with marketing, eventually finding her niche in the emerging field of technical marketing, highlighting the pivotal role of understanding underlying technologies in modern marketing strategies.
• RevOps involves being a business strategist, aligning resources to overcome obstacles and enhance profitability. The challenge lies in distinguishing true RevOps strategists from those merely deploying technology. Many lack exposure or interest in the comprehensive approach required for effective problem-solving within RevOps.
• RevOps strategy involves deep analysis, understanding options, testing improvements, and analyzing results. It's a complex skill that takes time to develop, making it an elevated and valuable role. Many mistake their work for RevOps strategy, but the depth of understanding and strategic insight are often missing.

Quote of the Show:

• “We've lost our way and gotten so tech-enabled. We don't really actually know what RevOps is, people are still arguing over the definition.” - Nicole Pereira

Links:

• Nicole Pereira’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolepereira 
• Remotish Website: https://www.remotish.agency 
• CULTURISH Website: https://www.culturish.agency 
• NuFund Venture Group Website: https://nufund.com 
• HubSpot Website: https://www.hubspot.com 
• Nicole Pereira’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/ianthropologish 
• Remotish Twitter: https://twitter.com/RemotishAgency 

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• A RevOps role should not be one of the first hires in either sales or marketing or in a joint revenue capacity. 
• Charlie argues that this has changed over time, and nowadays, a RevOps role is critical and should be considered one of the first hires because it ensures clean data, trustworthy systems, and accurate reporting, which are essential for effective marketing and revenue operations.

Takeaways: 

• In today's business landscape, specialization in roles like RevOps is critical for data accuracy and making informed decisions, even for smaller companies. Wearing multiple hats as a generalist may not suffice to ensure data cleanliness and accuracy.
• Having a hybrid role that bridges marketing and sales, focusing on data analysis and decision-making, is crucial for success. RevOps should be considered early on to nurture the right customers and improve overall marketing and sales efforts.
• In a small, tech-driven startup, the challenge lies in maintaining data accuracy, efficiently automating marketing processes, and ensuring qualified leads. Finding individuals with expertise in multiple functions is challenging, so specialization is key to success.
• Collaboration between marketing and sales teams focused on understanding each other's challenges and perspectives, leads to better decision-making and improved outcomes in areas like email campaigns and deal progression within platforms like HubSpot.
• Bridging the gap between sales and marketing starts with genuine curiosity and a willingness to collaborate. Regular interaction, sharing insights, and celebrating successes together can lead to improved alignment and better results in revenue generation.
• Effective communication in both sales and marketing involves understanding the diverse learning styles and preferences of your audience, adapting your message accordingly, and focusing on what they need rather than your own communication style.
• Effective leadership and communication require adapting to the diverse needs and preferences of individuals, both in professional and personal settings. Being self-aware and proactive in understanding others' styles can lead to better outcomes and relationships.

Quote of the Show:

• “It's a lack of not being interested and sometimes someone just has to step up.” - Charlie Riley

Links:

• Charlie Riley’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlieriley 
• Send’s Website: https://send.technology 
• Charlie Riley’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Charlieriley 
• Personal website: https://charlieriley.com 

Shoutout:

• Amy Volas on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amyvolas 

Ways to Tune In:

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• YouTube: https://youtu.be/H-mZCzaJalk
• Transistor: https://share.transistor.fm/s/15d96bc0

RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• Attribution numbers offer a definitive answer when measuring the impact of your marketing channels and touchpoints, because of the various tools that are available, such as single-touch, first-touch, multi-touch, and last-touch attribution models.

Takeaways: 

• Attribution provides insights into touchpoints and data visibility within the funnel, but it can't precisely quantify the full influence due to the existence of an anonymous, pre-interaction phase. Instead, it helps track trends and compare the relative effectiveness of different marketing efforts for better decision-making.
• Growth rates offer a consistent measure for assessing marketing effectiveness and making data-driven decisions.
• Additionally, they help prove marketing's value by showcasing momentum, lead volume growth, and identifying top-performing conversion activities through down-funnel analysis.
• When considering non-attributable factors like brand perception and strategic partnerships. CMOs often face high turnover rates due to the difficulty of quantifying marketing's influence on revenue.
• AI is transforming marketing by automating data analysis, intent generation, and even program execution. Marketers' roles are shifting towards strategy, messaging, optimization, and addressing nuances that AI may not detect.
• CMOs excel in marketing expertise. The key is a strong product-market fit. Effective marketing follows, addressing the right audience, crafting relevant messages, and being present in relevant conversations.
• Fixing business-level issues is essential for marketing success.

Quote of the Show:

• “We can't be everything to everyone. We have to be the best at something in one segment, in one region, and with one persona.” - Kelly Hopping

Links:

• Kelly Hopping’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyhopping
• Kelly Hopping’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/KelHopps 
• HYCU’s Website: https://www.hycu.com
• The CMO Club’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-cmo-club 

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• The significance of direct mail varies according to your age demographic.

Takeaways: 

• Glen has observed discussions surrounding digital marketing, direct mail marketing, and email marketing campaigns. What intrigues him about these emerging conversations is that they aren't just focusing on conventional marketing campaigns that incidentally utilize email, direct mail, and digital mediums. Glen perceives this approach as a potential recipe for long-term failure. 
• The modern marketing mix emphasizes catering to communication preferences, acknowledging the strong inclination towards tactile marketing among a significant portion of the population. This entails incorporating physical elements like direct mail or brochures into the marketing mix. The recommended approach involves initially selecting the communication channel, then tailoring the message to resonate with the audience and aligning it with their preferred communication mode.
• When striving to enhance revenue generation, refining your client approach takes paramount significance. Delve into understanding your customer's communication preferences and linguistic style. Comprehend their preferred modes of interaction and be attuned to potential language nuances to steer clear of. Recognize that each conversation is contextual, necessitating thorough analysis and adaptation.
• An intriguing aspect that has captured Glen's attention in the realm of direct mail is its enhanced transparency. He observed a few years back the introduction of barcodes at the base of mail items, imbuing them with a wealth of information regarding their delivery status. This innovation starkly contrasts with the prior scenario where mailed items would be left in uncertainty, with no indication of whether they successfully reached the intended recipients.
• Glen holds the belief that substantial evidence highlights the environmental superiority of receiving physical mail over digital copies. Sustaining online servers demands a perpetual consumption of electricity, raising ecological concerns. This dual challenge, encompassing both financial considerations and societal pressures, presents a complex landscape for Glen.

Quote of the Show:

• “There's nothing so unequal is treating unequals equally.” - Glen Swyers

Links:

• Glen Swyers’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swyers/ 
• Imagine’s Website: https://www.theimaginegroup.com/ 
• Glen Swyers’s Personal Website: http://www.swyers.com/ 
• Glen Swyers’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/gmswyers 

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• RevOps is primarily a technological solution, encompassing tools, and systems, and gives less importance to people and processes in its approach.

Takeaways: 

• For Samara, the significance lies in recognizing that individuals engaged in processes are intertwined with technology. Technology holds greater importance than merely being a solution in itself. While a tool can't be a universal fix, its efficacy hinges on the concurrent development of the people, processes, and technology working together. 
• Samara emphasizes the importance of comprehending an organization's structure and functioning. Staying informed about its organizing model, structure, team communication, and perspectives is important. Samara considers a drawback when people focus on their tool-related goals rather than addressing deeper organizational issues.
• Samara recognizes that building an organizational solution for complex companies is hard to achieve. Companies tend to adopt diverse structured operating models where there's no universal approach. The key is for everyone to share an understanding of the organization's workings, facilitating smoother transitions.
• Samara’s passion is organizational design, development, and sociology. Her experience has taught her that individuals facing sales challenges often overlook their motivations and shared goals. She encourages to develop a human-centered approach with an understanding of how people collaborate and their perspectives, emphasizing the importance of shared fundamentals.
• Samara is enthusiastic about the increase in adoption of RevOps in companies. However, it remains more of a concept. Many companies still operate with separate departments like marketing, operations, sales, and services, each using different tools, leading to poor communication. RevOps serves as a parallel to engineering different product teams and bridging the gaps within an organization.

Quote of the Show:

• “There's never the right answer. It's what is THE answer that we are going to have to choose to organize ourselves against.” - Samara Donald

Links:

• Samara Donald’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samaradonald/ 
• Amazon Web Services (AWS)’s Website: https://aws.amazon.com/?nc2=h_lg 
• Mirror House Music Group’s Website: https://mirrorhousemg.com/ 
• Mara Sol’s Website: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0UDswthm0YlfCrzJ488cJG?si=ouICNio4RUa-tHhGhjShoA 
• Samara Donald’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/samarajdonald2 

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myths:

• While there's a prevailing notion that RevOps professionals primarily encompass mathematicians and data analysts, it's important to recognize that their role isn't confined to these specific designations.

Takeaways: 

• Scott firmly advocates for the presence of an experience-focused RevOp leader within every company. He ardently believes in the advantages of having a revenue officer who seamlessly integrates data-driven insights with creative strategies, thereby making a substantial contribution to the overall growth of the company.
• TrueFort's mission statement for Scott's revenue team is unequivocal: to cultivate dependable revenue streams that unequivocally enhance shareholder value. This commitment is not merely a lofty ideal; it is a daily practice deeply ingrained within the company's culture. The realm of shareholders extends beyond the company's internal team, encompassing our esteemed investors and esteemed board of directors.
• During interactions with prospects, Scott occasionally encounters instances where a full comprehension of micro-segmentation eludes them. In such scenarios, Scott adeptly ensures that these prospects derive substantial value from the concept by skillfully deconstructing it into easily digestible terms tailored to their level of understanding.
• Scott firmly upholds the significance of intent within the fabric of any thriving company. When dealing with a diverse array of target accounts, meticulous research becomes paramount to ensure a seamless alignment with your ideal customer profile. Delving deep into comprehending the purpose behind your customers' purchasing decisions, or discerning the intent surrounding the challenges you can adeptly address, stands as a critical undertaking.

Quote of the Show:

• “You can be right without being righteous.” - Scott Schneider

Links:

• Scott Schneider’s LinkedIn
• TrueFort’s Website
• Scott Schneider’s Twitter

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Two RevOps Myths:

• Renaming departments and workflows alone may not effectively break down silos.
• While RevOps plays a vital role, it may not be the sole driver of customer-centricity.

Takeaways: 

• In sales and marketing, Mitja has observed that each department and group often operate independently, which can lead to communication issues when interacting with customers. To enhance seamless communication, prioritize customer-centricity, and maintain utmost transparency throughout the process. By placing the customer at the core of all actions, any potential gaps in communication can be avoided.
• In RevOps, transparency and communication are important. Placing your customer at the forefront becomes paramount, with an unwavering commitment to delivering customer value and exceeding their expectations. Create a profound positive experience for your clients, fostering stronger relationships and unlocking new levels of success in your endeavors.
• Customer centricity lies in a compelling message and a captivating story. Achieving this ensures alignment with the narrative. By establishing this, create a fresh and engaging tale that resonates with all key stakeholders, bringing them together in a shared vision. This not only reinforces your commitment to the customer but also unlocks new possibilities for growth by forging stronger connections.
• Mitja places a strong emphasis on the voice of his customers. His company's impactful initiative centers on empowering customers to share their stories firsthand. Create a powerful avenue for customers to express themselves across various channels, developing a deeper understanding of their needs and desires.
• Salesforce plays a pivotal role in Mitja's company, serving as an all-encompassing CRM system. By functioning as the single source of truth, CRM empowers Mitja and his team with access to valuable data, enabling them to make well-informed decisions based on the understanding of customer behavior. This insight fuels actions as a guiding light for future strategies, fostering an environment of continuous improvement and customer-focused excellence.

Quote of the Show:

• “If you want to have an impact in your environment, you need to break down silence and create a cross-functional team.” - Mitja-Alexander Linss

Links:

• Mitja-Alexander Linss’s LinkedIn
• Global Marketing Ventures’s Website
• Karger Publishers’s Website
• Mitja-Alexander Linss’s Twitter

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RevOps Myth:

• RevOps is not a template, every company needs to adapt to different circumstances.

Takeaways: 

• Marketing has a certain commonality that allows you to find patterns and apply certain tactics. It's important to remember that what works for one company may not work for another. Create a unique plan and be willing to adapt it as needed.
• Scott advises not to become too attached to one's own creations. If a campaign is not producing the desired results, analyze the data and be open to making changes or pivoting. Achieving improvement requires the collaboration of your team in marketing, sales, and technology.
• To distinguish between companies, it is essential to ask questions about factors such as SDRs, pipeline sources, conversion rates to sales, and revenue goals. This information can provide valuable insights, into whether a company is focusing on targeting new clients or developing existing ones.
• Two key examples of investing in the right technology that can greatly improve the efficiency of your company's operations are through implementing effective lead-scoring models and re-platforming your website to enhance the ease of blogging and overall functionality. By incorporating these solutions, your company can streamline its processes and better serve its customers, ultimately resulting in improved performance and growth.
• To ensure a successful re-platforming process, it is essential to explicitly define what falls within the scope of the project and what does not. Having a diverse team with a multitude of perspectives can be highly beneficial, as it allows for more comprehensive feedback from various departments within the company.
• Customers take charge of the sales process by conducting online research before speaking to a salesperson. Your company's website is the key to highlighting your solution or product, so it must be accessible, easy to understand, and regularly updated.
• Scott's career tip is to embrace a non-linear career path, fearlessly taking on opportunities and learning from them. Each experience adds a unique skill set that can surprisingly interconnect with others, culminating in one-of-a-kind expertise. 

Quote of the Show:

• “Learn through everything, even if something doesn’t go the way you want.” - Scott Horn

Links:

• Scott Horn’s LinkedIn
• EnterpriseDB’s Website
• Scott Horn’s Twitter

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RevOps Myth:

• Problems are not solved by hiring a professional, everyone works better as a team.  

Takeaways:

• Samantha believes that Connective Tissue needs to exist between each member and role in the company. Having someone who is active in each part of the organization like sales, solutions, product, and marketing is a valuable asset to your company. 
• Samantha encourages listeners to utilize your community via Slack and propose your problem, solutions, and suggestions by discussing them amongst your team. This allows people to give their input on each solution. Having time to brainstorm and workshop through problems creates a strong relationship with everyone. Having a team that improves the way everyone communicates can show great leadership in your company.
• When seeking advice and input, it can be hard to meet with the top executives since they are often occupied. Samantha suggests going to people further down in the hierarchy who have more time and a strong knowledge of their field. These employees will become a great resource to consult with. 
• It is important to make sure that you make your work environment a safe place to communicate their ideas in an approachable manner. A RevOps Gem is someone who is easy to work with and overall a friendly person. Samantha believes that everyone should become a RevOps Gem to be a leader for great solutions. 
• Despite the development of AI and Chat GPT; RevOps, marketing, and sales are always going to have a human element. In complex business models, you need complex solutions and ambitious strategic goals, which AI can’t implement without people. 
• Mentors give advice but sponsors advocate for you as a professional and stay connected over time. When deciding where to spend your time and extra effort at work, choose a place that will be a career or life-long connection that supports your growth. 

Quote of the Show:

• “It takes a community to achieve anything if you wanna achieve it in the best way possible.” - Samantha Rideout

Links:

• Samantha Rideout’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantharideout/ 
• Cohere Health’s Website: https://coherehealth.com/ 
• American Marketing Association’s Website: https://www.ama.org/ 
• Samantha Rideout’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/SamanthaRideout 

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myth:

• Don’t try to be an expert at everything. Find your strengths and weaknesses and hire to complement and supplement those weaknesses. RevOps will be stronger with a team of experts rather than an individual expected to know everything. 

Takeaways:

• With a limited budget, you have to be strategic about hiring practices. Start by hiring a Salesforce manager, who will give the most back for your budget. Prioritize a leader to manage the commission's side of the business.
• Be transparent with the CRO and others about the budget limits and what you can deliver. Avoid over-committing and under-performing what your company can do. Create a list of needs in your organization and acknowledge which should be dealt with. 
• Create a modern Rolodex of hiring; keep contacts in your arsenal of experts who may be a good fit for future roles or for 30-minute meetings. In the event of an increased budget or a need for expertise, you want to reach out and fill that gap quickly. 
• Brandon shared some insightful advice for interns: 
  • Don’t be afraid to ask for 30 minutes of a leader's or coworker’s time to ask questions about their career. This can be in an upward direction to someone in a different department. 
• Brandon expresses the importance of taking advantage of networking opportunities. Be proactive in asking people to meet and leverage your venture-backed company. This can provide valuable introductions, initiate mutually beneficial interactions, and create meaningful relationships. 
• Generally, technology products don’t fail because they weren’t made well, but because they weren’t implemented successfully. Brandon believes that it is beneficial to bring in product champions, user testing, and work on a more personal level with the team. 
• Rollouts initially create more work for the end users. To avoid this, Brandon suggests combating implementation pushback by explaining the rationale behind technology rollouts, showing what processes will be made easier, and creating and maintaining a support structure. 

Quote of the Show:

• “Get to the right answer. It doesn’t matter how you get there as long as you know how to get there. Bring in the right resources.” -Brandon Bussey

Links:

• Brandon Bussey’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonbussey/ 
• Unicorn Revenue Operations’s Website: https://www.unicornrevops.com/ 
• Brandon Bussey’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/bpbussey 

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RevOps Myth:

• All revenue is good revenue.

Takeaways:

• Braxton explores prime examples of bad revenue generation:
  • Engaging in sales efforts with customers whose business capabilities don't align with your organization's offerings.
  • Do not prioritize sales to a customer, even at the expense of another department or team. While the sales representative may initially benefit greatly, it can result in risks and downsides.
• Braxton also shares successful revenue generation:
  • Emphasizing customer lifetime value as a priority. Target customers who are inclined to make repeated purchases, fostering long-term relationships and maximizing revenue growth. Braxton believes that this type of revenue is the most valuable for any company.
  • Give priority to customer advocacy programs. These programs cultivate a community comprising users, buyers, and end-users who advocate for your brand. This transforms them into revenue generators for the company.
• Defining an ideal customer profile holds immense value, especially for emerging companies. It's crucial for organizations to target the market and generate leads that align with their ICP. Braxton believes that businesses should not straying too far from their strategic boundaries.
• A concern that keeps Braxton up at night is maintaining data cleanliness. Ensuring that your sales representatives are provided with the easiest path to prospects who are likely to convert into customers is crucial. Braxton's approach to filling out contact data involves gathering information from sources, such as individuals who have attended meetings, as well as details regarding personnel changes, including both departures and new additions.

Quote of the Show:

• “If your mindset is in the future, you're never getting much from the present.” - Braxton Carr

Links:

• Braxton Carr’s LinkedIn
• UserGems’s Website
• UserGems’s Twitter
• Current Book Read: Money by Martin Amis

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RevOps 500 Podcast is produced and sponsored by Ringmaster, on a mission to create connections through B2B podcasts. Learn more at https://ringmaster.com/ and https://www.computan.com/ 

RevOps Myth:

• There's a difference between ROI activities and brand awareness marketing activities.

Takeaways:

• With technology becoming more advance every day, Ardyce thinks the increasingly seamless ability to track and monitor various aspects through the implementation of cutting-edge software. Tracking within your organization ensures comprehensive oversight across all fronts.
• To effectively monitor trade shows, it is crucial to adhere to the following steps to streamline your trade show tracking process:
  • When signing a contract with a trade show, ensure diligent tracking for accurate ROI calculation.
  • Define the desired outcomes and activities for which the trade show should be held responsible.
• As your company expands, utilizing diverse platforms becomes necessary in order to consolidate data. Maintaining a proactive stance, staying informed, and maintaining oversight are critical aspects of ensuring strategic success.
• When Ardyce was first starting out, a portion of her time was dedicated to meticulously examining and analyzing data. As time progressed, she realized that data often reaffirms what she already knows.
• With data, you can go over things manually with a fine toothcomb, but once you reach a certain point, that's no longer feasible. To overcome this challenge, using advanced data platforms becomes crucial in identifying any inaccurate data. By using these platforms, you can easily clean up your data, leading to more accurate outcomes.

Quote of the Show:

• “Tracking performance marketing is what I live and breathe for.”  - Ardyce Taylor

Links:

• Ardyce Taylor’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ardyce-taylor-154408b2/ 
• Filevine’s Website: https://www.filevine.com/ 
• Filevine’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/filevine 

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• Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/revops-500/episodes/Keeping-Your-Data-Clean---Ardyce-Taylor---RevOps-500-Podcast---Episode--010-e249p5q 

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RevOps Myth:

• It's not about data. It’s about growth.

Takeaways:

• Kelly believes that the spirit of RevOps is to work smarter and not harder. Kelly stresses the importance of having every RevOp unpack and understand how the company makes money at all stages of its customer journey.
• Kelly thinks that most companies have a very generalized view of CAC especially when the company has a diverse customer-based, customer journey, and average order value. Have a new way of strategizing with your customers instead of staying with your old system as the market grows.
• Kelly advises that marketers don't use their marketing language. Use the customer's language. Using the customer's language, you can learn about their wants and needs. 
• The depth of the data that you end up using to show a client, is going to get richer. Kelly mentions that there will always be an element of making sure the story, the take-home message, and the action comes out crystal clear. 
• Kelly says that there are two best practices for making your story crystal clear for your client:
  • Be honest about your story. Be disruptive and catch their attention. Set an urgency fact upfront with your clients.
  • If there is a big client, connect with them before your next meeting. Pre-align on what the story is and what the action plan is. So, when you go into the meeting, you’ve got everything prepared.,

Quote of the Show:

• “People don't just want to see the numbers and the graphs. They want to hear the story.”  - Kelly Owen Grover

Links:

• Kelly’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-owen-grover-m-b-a-91657115/ 
• Cloverly’s Website: https://www.cloverly.com/ 
• Cloverly’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/getcloverly?lang=en 

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RevOps Myth:

• RevOps is just one team with one specific function.

Takeaways:

• Nikki believes that RevOps is a very cross-departmental team with an array of different functions that culminate in a story. 
• Another important role that is crucial to the RevOps department is the Data Insights team. Data Insights help navigate and collect data points to help tell a proper story for the marketing and sales department.
• Nikki explains the importance of having a good relationship with not only your small internal production team but with people outside of your group like Data Insights, Analysts, and RevOps. Having a relationship with other departments can build a stronger company. 
• Nikki does not recommend solving problems by starting on a new slate. Starting from the beginning again to make sure you didn’t miss any information can be very beneficial but incredibly time-consuming.
• When starting out with a new system, remember to check with your customers and get their reviews on the product. Getting outside opinions from your clientele is key in order to grow your company in the right direction.

Quote of the Show:

• “Nobody cares about the ingredients. They only care about the dish, the final meal.”  - Nikki Gertner

Links:

• Nikki’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-gertner-a9619a34/ 
• Company: https://celtra.com/ 
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/nikkigert 

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RevOps Myth:

• RevOps represents a set of deliverables 

Takeaways:

• While a lot of people might think that the goal of RevOps is to represent a set of deliverables, it’s actually a constant task to remove friction to bring in more revenue. In any part of the funnel where something is getting stalled out, there is where the RevOps professional goes to work.
• For RevOps to be fully effective, they need to understand and fully measure your entire sales cycle. If you aren’t measuring all the steps in a logical sequence, then you will struggle to find the solution to where the issue lies. 
• A pain point for most RevOps professionals is that the work they do and the connections they make are highly valuable to a certain group of people, but that group isn’t very large. 
• There are plenty of CRM tools out there and everyone understands them, but there are a whole bunch of different types of data which isn’t common knowledge to everybody else. There is no G2 category or journalists who cover what RevOps are doing and who need their help.  
• One way to distinguish who might need your help as a RevOps professional and build a knowledge graph that is based on your ICP and see what common language is being used and find those phrases being used by other people.
• As the role of RevOps becomes more and more prominent, they should be intertwined with the sales team and feeding them all the information they have on their connections so that by the team they get to sales, it feels like a well-established connection for the potential client.
• If Nick could go back in time, he would tell his younger self to study route-based economics a lot because everything in the digital world is a correlation of a market that has a supply and demand side. 

Quote of the Show:

• “Try to eliminate friction, whatever it is.” (22:33)

Links:

• Nick’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicktalbert/ 
• Company: https://www.cruxdata.com/ 
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/nicktalbert 

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RevOps Myth:

•  There isn’t a magic RevOps formula. It is different with every business. 

Takeaways:

• When entrepreneurs and business owners sit down to build up the RevOps process, oftentimes the who is left out, they focus more on the what.
• Brooke believes we often forget to look at who the RevOps are and how they want to work. It is essential to maintain and organize the who in those positions. 
• Business owners should look for people who are the missing piece to their company. They should look for people who want to be a part of the end outcome and what they are trying to accomplish.  
• One thing that keeps Brooke up at night is making sure that her company is being thoughtful to those in her business and making sure that their clients are feeling cared for.  
• What Brooke’s business will do is compare its tools with its competitors. With your business, ask the question, “what are the tools that your competitors are using? Is there anything that you could learn from those platforms?”
• Brooke got her start by working at a startup company. She says that it was an amazing experience since she learned so much. She recommends it to anyone in the marketing field.
• When you are at a startup company, it is important to have a network of connections. Having connections can help expand your company and client outreach.

Quote of the Show:

• “Many business owners are looking for that magic formula with RevOps.” (01:29)

Links:

• Brooke’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookefitts/ 
• Company: https://www.jodder.com/
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/ThisFitts 

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RevOps Myth:

• RevOps Leaders are just CRM or Salesforce admins.

Takeaways:

• Revenue Operations is a new space for most companies. In this line of work, take control and manage your inputs.
• It is key that your responsibilities are taken care of in Salesforce. It is critical to double-check that all of your fields are up to date.
• Saurabh thinks the most important part of what a RevOps does is ensuring that their data is clean to help provide all the insights and analytics to make recommendations.
• As a RevOp, you want to make sure all of your teams have the right strategic alignment. It is crucial to keep your team up to date.
• Make your goals simple. Overcomplicating your goals can make it seem impossible to achieve. By simplifying your goals, it will become easier to achieve them. Go one step at a time.
• Saurabh says that RevOps has four pillars. The four pillars are people, process, technology, and data. Saurabh expresses having those pillars supported equally is key to keeping lasting relationships with your customers.
• The first thing you should do when tasked with building out a function in a new organization is to build relationships. Once you build that relationship, you can dive into the sales aspect.

Quote of the Show:

• “It is leaders like us who have to build towards a goal like it’s the north star.” (11:45)

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• Saurabh’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabh-sanganee/
• Company: https://www.gobolt.com/

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RevOps Myth:

• People think RevOps have the skills to help you optimize your operations, and often they don't.

Takeaways:

• Often leaders of marketing assume that RevOps understands business, how marketing works, how sales work, and how sales reps but they don’t understand the roles of sales and marketing.
• When bringing on a RevOp to your company, you want to make sure they understand both sales and marketing. If you have a RevOp that knows sales, they won't understand the marketing side but the RevOp that knows marketing, won't understand the sales side. It is key for them to understand and optimize both.
• Another RevOps myth is that revops implement the best systems and tech to meet the needs of their circumstances. They tend to implement the tech that they are biased towards. They often provide the best tools that fit their comfort.
• When there is a problem, Darryl finds himself getting up close and personal with the issue and the people involved. Solving the problem in person and face-to-face can promote a faster resolution.
• Darryl believes that in the future, RevOps will have a seat at the executive table. They won't report to sales, and they won't report to marketing. They will be the neutral arbiter reporting to either the president or a CEO. Compensation for quality people will increase and authority and influence will increase.

Quote of the Show:

• “Building consensus is at the core of the foundation of getting any project done which is what RevOps is all about.” (30:06)

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• Darryl’s LinkedIn
• Darryl’s Twitter
• Agorapulse

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RevOps Myth:

• RevOps is only for large enterprises.

Takeaways:

• In smaller companies, the RevOps position is a much easier goal. Smaller companies have easier control over their processes compared to larger companies.
• Jeremy has seen all of the functions with RevOps that are now combined into what is a best practice for their organization. By experiencing this, Jeremy believes that companies need to get a shared vision of the customer journey to understand the touchpoints, content, and channels.
• Jeremy expresses how important it is to make sure that you’re using your business lens and using that shared understanding of that pathway to drive decision-making. Having an informed decision will help your customers make that purchase choice.
• In order to make a good RevOp, it is important to ensure you are well knowledgeable about data integration, management, goals/priorities of the company, and optimizing your business needs. Most importantly, being prepared for change management because for most companies, having a RevOp is a new way of working and learning.
• One of Jeremy's biggest challenges as a RevOp is collaboration and communication. It is challenging due to the change the business will have to go through in order to work with its RevOps needs.
• Jeremy thinks one of the critical things is if you have a change management program, make sure to agree on the goals and have all the right players involved in the various departments.

Quote of the Show:

• “RevOp is not only for large enterprises, it’s for companies of all sizes.” (02:13)

Links:

• Jeremy’s LinkedIn 
• Jeremy’s Twitter
• Jeremy’s Personal Website

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RevOps Myth:

• RevOps is only for start-ups.

Takeaways:

• Revops was developed for startups on startups only. Today you're seeing businesses of all sizes and ages adopting the Revops role.
• You tend to see a lot of Revops working in Saas industries but lately, more businesses have been incorporating the Revops role in their company.
• It is always important to ask yourself, what are our priorities for this year? Write down some ideas and then based on those, break it down into what are your quarterly priorities for the company. Once you have gathered all this information, meet up with your team leaders to plan and discuss.
• When you're in Revops, you own the tech stack. So if your company is having customer-facing tech issues or any problems that they run into, you will be depended on to help fix those problems.
• The challenge that Srujan is facing is that the problems are identified by someone else and then they pass it on to you as Revop to help them. Ideally, what he would want to see is Revops figuring out what the problems are on their own.
• A big piece of advice that Srujan gives is understanding your customer's journey. Draw out a line from where they first started to how they ended up with your company. Understanding their journey will make it easier to advertise to more clients.

Quote of the Show:

• “Not everybody is a decision maker.” (15:08)

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• LinkedIn
• Website

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RevOps Myth:

• Marketing does not inherently matter.

Takeaways:

• For marketers, just because your technology stack is big. It doesn't mean you're making a difference in your company. You have to put yourself out there and actually make yourself busy rather than making it look like you’re busy.
• Learning technology is normally the first step marketers learn when it shouldn’t be. Learning about the process of the company should be the first thing marketers should learn.
• Try to implement training for the companies that you’ve worked with. When doing this you will find gaps within the company that you can correct such as stuck leads and communication issues.
• Figure out what it means to be a strategic marketer in your company. Marketers will tend to overuse the word “strategic” without knowing what it means. Strategy is all about having a goal and how to get there.
• It is very important to figure out what goal you want to set for yourself and your company. It is always good to have some goals in mind for yourself and your business. To solve this, ask yourself some questions, where's this company going exactly? Where does the CEO wanna take it?
• It is always important to step out from behind technology and go out to talk to customers. Build that personal relationship with them. Listening to them can create trust between you and your client.

Quote of the Show:

• “I want people to do marketing automation right.” (18:35)

Links:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/CaseyChesh
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseycheshire/
• Website: https://ringmaster.com/
• Book: Marketing Automation Unleashed: The Strategic Path for B2B Growth
• Podcast: The Hard Corps Marketing Show and Creating The Greatest Show

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