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    <description>Follow one church's journey as they depart from modern church growth trends and reinvent themselves by equipping everyday Christians to live out their faith in real life. Find episodes and show notes at www.dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In Episode 40, Derek and Danielle unpack their top leadership “mic drop” moments of the season and turn them into simple, actionable practices for pastors. They also pull back the curtain on essential systems, a unique cultural moment of spiritual hunger, and a practical tool for planning meaningful half-day personal retreats.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:title>39:  From EVENTS to ENVIRONMENTS | Christmas Confabulation | Strategically Using Meetings | Auld Lang Syne...15 end of year questions</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore how churches can shift from event-driven ministry to environments where real discipleship happens. Hear from Shane Stacey, Andrew Silbert, and Sarah Burtt as they unpack practical ways to design worship spaces, mid-size trainings, and small groups that actually produce transformation.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore how churches can shift from event-driven ministry to environments where real discipleship happens. Hear from Shane Stacey, Andrew Silbert, and Sarah Burtt as they unpack practical ways to design worship spaces, mid-size trainings, and small groups that actually produce transformation.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If you’re longing for a healthier way to lead your church, this episode will encourage you. Dave Rhodes calls leaders to become hero-makers, and Pastor Jamaal Williams shows how everyday disciples can own real ministry in their own spaces. It’s practical, honest, and full of next steps you can use this week.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If you’re longing for a healthier way to lead your church, this episode will encourage you. Dave Rhodes calls leaders to become hero-makers, and Pastor Jamaal Williams shows how everyday disciples can own real ministry in their own spaces. It’s practical, honest, and full of next steps you can use this week.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If you’re longing for a healthier way to lead your church, this episode will encourage you. Dave Rhodes calls leaders to become hero-makers, and Pastor Jamaal Williams shows how everyday disciples can own real ministry in their own spaces. It’s practical, honest, and full of next steps you can use this week.</p>]]>
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      <title>37: From SEEKER to SENDER | Pilgrim’s Progress | Exploring Development Roles | The Now to Next prayer tool</title>
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      <itunes:title>37: From SEEKER to SENDER | Pilgrim’s Progress | Exploring Development Roles | The Now to Next prayer tool</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if your church became known less for who it gathers and more for who it sends? <br>This week’s Reinventing Church episode unpacks Dave Rhodes' challenge to move from seeker to sender, rethinking what we celebrate, track, and multiply. Then Derek talks with Chris Bellinger about how churches can train and release everyday missionaries right where they are. Plus, a behind-the-scenes look at Grace’s new development roles and a practical “Now to Next” prayer tool for friendship and discipleship.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if your church became known less for who it gathers and more for who it sends? <br>This week’s Reinventing Church episode unpacks Dave Rhodes' challenge to move from seeker to sender, rethinking what we celebrate, track, and multiply. Then Derek talks with Chris Bellinger about how churches can train and release everyday missionaries right where they are. Plus, a behind-the-scenes look at Grace’s new development roles and a practical “Now to Next” prayer tool for friendship and discipleship.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:keywords>Takeaways  Thanksgiving traditions can vary greatly between families. The shift from seeker to sender is crucial for church growth. Empowering everyday missionaries is essential for community impact. Training and equipping leaders is a key focus for church leaders. The church should be a sending center, not just a gathering place. Intentional friendships can be fostered through prayer and support. Understanding individual gifts is vital for effective ministry. Community support is crucial for local leaders and missionaries. The church must adapt to survive in changing cultural landscapes. Small acts of service can lead to significant impact.</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>36: From GROWTH to DEPTH | Lessons from the eurythmics | Mindmapping Job Descriptions | A Team Development Tool.</title>
      <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>36: From GROWTH to DEPTH | Lessons from the eurythmics | Mindmapping Job Descriptions | A Team Development Tool.</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Derek and Danielle, along with Pastor Sarah Burtt and the Clarity House team, tackle the shift from growth to depth. They unpack how to design discipleship environments that form people, not just fill rooms, share a behind-the-scenes look at mind-mapping job descriptions, and introduce four simple practices any leader can use to develop people, not just delegate tasks. Perfect for pastors and church leaders ready to rethink what “success” looks like in their ministry.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Derek and Danielle, along with Pastor Sarah Burtt and the Clarity House team, tackle the shift from growth to depth. They unpack how to design discipleship environments that form people, not just fill rooms, share a behind-the-scenes look at mind-mapping job descriptions, and introduce four simple practices any leader can use to develop people, not just delegate tasks. Perfect for pastors and church leaders ready to rethink what “success” looks like in their ministry.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Derek and Danielle, along with Pastor Sarah Burtt and the Clarity House team, tackle the shift from growth to depth. They unpack how to design discipleship environments that form people, not just fill rooms, share a behind-the-scenes look at mind-mapping job descriptions, and introduce four simple practices any leader can use to develop people, not just delegate tasks. Perfect for pastors and church leaders ready to rethink what “success” looks like in their ministry.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:title>35: From CUSTOMER SERVICE to COACHING | Two truths and a truth | Brainstorm Buddies | Tool: Turning Complaints into Clarity</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek Sanford talks with Stephen Hay about how churches can shift from customer service to coaching, from keeping people happy to helping them grow. Learn how to spot consumer Christianity, create feedback-rich coaching cultures, and lead with courage instead of comfort. Plus, behind-the-scenes updates on Grace’s Awake the Lake vision and a new Tips &amp; Tools on turning complaints into clarity.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek Sanford talks with Stephen Hay about how churches can shift from customer service to coaching, from keeping people happy to helping them grow. Learn how to spot consumer Christianity, create feedback-rich coaching cultures, and lead with courage instead of comfort. Plus, behind-the-scenes updates on Grace’s Awake the Lake vision and a new Tips &amp; Tools on turning complaints into clarity.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Stanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Stanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek Sanford talks with Stephen Hay about how churches can shift from customer service to coaching, from keeping people happy to helping them grow. Learn how to spot consumer Christianity, create feedback-rich coaching cultures, and lead with courage instead of comfort. Plus, behind-the-scenes updates on Grace’s Awake the Lake vision and a new Tips &amp; Tools on turning complaints into clarity.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Ep 34: From ASSIMILATION to ACTIVATION with Scott Michel</title>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Instead of plugging people into roles, call them into purpose.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Instead of plugging people into roles, call them into purpose.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Stanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Stanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Instead of plugging people into roles, call them into purpose.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>33: From ATTENDANCE to APPRENTICESHIP | This vs That | On-Staff Mentorship | And Taking on the Keyboard Warriors</title>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>34</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>33: From ATTENDANCE to APPRENTICESHIP | This vs That | On-Staff Mentorship | And Taking on the Keyboard Warriors</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From Northern Lights and “read-minds-vs-fly” debates to deep reflections on what truly counts in ministry, Derek and Danielle explore how churches can move from attendance to apprenticeship. Dave Rhodes redefines success, and guest Jeremy Adelman shows how an old Minneapolis church found new life by focusing on training disciples who multiply. Perfect for church leaders ready to measure growth by transformation not turnout.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From Northern Lights and “read-minds-vs-fly” debates to deep reflections on what truly counts in ministry, Derek and Danielle explore how churches can move from attendance to apprenticeship. Dave Rhodes redefines success, and guest Jeremy Adelman shows how an old Minneapolis church found new life by focusing on training disciples who multiply. Perfect for church leaders ready to measure growth by transformation not turnout.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Stanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Stanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From Northern Lights and “read-minds-vs-fly” debates to deep reflections on what truly counts in ministry, Derek and Danielle explore how churches can move from attendance to apprenticeship. Dave Rhodes redefines success, and guest Jeremy Adelman shows how an old Minneapolis church found new life by focusing on training disciples who multiply. Perfect for church leaders ready to measure growth by transformation not turnout.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>32: From TEACHING to TRAINING | Falling into Autumn | This week at Grace | And how to have difficult conversations - yay!</title>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>32: From TEACHING to TRAINING | Falling into Autumn | This week at Grace | And how to have difficult conversations - yay!</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Most churches are great at teaching but weak at training. In Episode 32 of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle kick off with fall vibes in Erie, then dive into Dave Rhodes on building training centers. Derek sits down with Pastor Mark Canada of Parkway Bible to talk about shifting from passive content delivery to active, experiential discipleship. Expect practical tools, a fourth grader’s gospel story, and a conflict tip you can use today.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Most churches are great at teaching but weak at training. In Episode 32 of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle kick off with fall vibes in Erie, then dive into Dave Rhodes on building training centers. Derek sits down with Pastor Mark Canada of Parkway Bible to talk about shifting from passive content delivery to active, experiential discipleship. Expect practical tools, a fourth grader’s gospel story, and a conflict tip you can use today.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Stanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Stanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>3508</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Most churches are great at teaching but weak at training. In Episode 32 of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle kick off with fall vibes in Erie, then dive into Dave Rhodes on building training centers. Derek sits down with Pastor Mark Canada of Parkway Bible to talk about shifting from passive content delivery to active, experiential discipleship. Expect practical tools, a fourth grader’s gospel story, and a conflict tip you can use today.</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>31: From STAFF DRIVEN to LEADER MULTIPLYING | Have we gone too far? | Tapping the Untapped | 10 Recruitment Barriers</title>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>31: From STAFF DRIVEN to LEADER MULTIPLYING | Have we gone too far? | Tapping the Untapped | 10 Recruitment Barriers</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is your church’s leadership pipeline multiplying or just maintaining? In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle sit down with Brent Minter, Lead Pastor of Keystone Church, to talk about making the critical shift from staff-driven ministry to leader-multiplying culture.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is your church’s leadership pipeline multiplying or just maintaining? In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle sit down with Brent Minter, Lead Pastor of Keystone Church, to talk about making the critical shift from staff-driven ministry to leader-multiplying culture.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Standford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Standford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Is your church’s leadership pipeline multiplying or just maintaining? In this episode of Reinventing Church, Derek and Danielle sit down with Brent Minter, Lead Pastor of Keystone Church, to talk about making the critical shift from staff-driven ministry to leader-multiplying culture.</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>30: From COMPLEXITY to CLARITY | Must see TV| It’s Christmas time in the city | Livin on a prayer</title>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>30: From COMPLEXITY to CLARITY | Must see TV| It’s Christmas time in the city | Livin on a prayer</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is your church’s discipleship pathway clear or just crowded? In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Phil EuBank of Menlo Church about moving from ministry complexity to clarity. Discover how to simplify your discipleship strategy, build shared rhythms, and guide people with a multiplication map instead of a ministry menu.<br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is your church’s discipleship pathway clear or just crowded? In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Phil EuBank of Menlo Church about moving from ministry complexity to clarity. Discover how to simplify your discipleship strategy, build shared rhythms, and guide people with a multiplication map instead of a ministry menu.<br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Standford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Standford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is your church’s discipleship pathway clear or just crowded? In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Phil EuBank of Menlo Church about moving from ministry complexity to clarity. Discover how to simplify your discipleship strategy, build shared rhythms, and guide people with a multiplication map instead of a ministry menu.<br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Keywords  church culture, ministry, discipleship, clarity, complexity, Phil Eubank, leadership, vision, collaboration, prayer</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>29:From SUNDAY to EVERYDAY | the most accurate personality test of all, becoming Influencers, and empowering team members with a 1:3:1 Tool</title>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>29:From SUNDAY to EVERYDAY | the most accurate personality test of all, becoming Influencers, and empowering team members with a 1:3:1 Tool</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sunday is important, but it’s not the finish line. In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Trey Taylor, Lead Pastor of City Hope Church, about the critical shift churches must make—from Sunday services to everyday discipleship. Trey unpacks how his team is reframing vocation as ministry, equipping everyday missionaries, and training leaders through tools like Dust: A Disciple’s Journey.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sunday is important, but it’s not the finish line. In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Trey Taylor, Lead Pastor of City Hope Church, about the critical shift churches must make—from Sunday services to everyday discipleship. Trey unpacks how his team is reframing vocation as ministry, equipping everyday missionaries, and training leaders through tools like Dust: A Disciple’s Journey.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Stanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Stanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sunday is important, but it’s not the finish line. In this episode, Derek and Danielle talk with Trey Taylor, Lead Pastor of City Hope Church, about the critical shift churches must make—from Sunday services to everyday discipleship. Trey unpacks how his team is reframing vocation as ministry, equipping everyday missionaries, and training leaders through tools like Dust: A Disciple’s Journey.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>28: Season 3 Launch! | Cruel Summer | Shifting 11 Gears | Behind the curtain at Grace | Tips and Tools and we tango with The Terminator…but WE’LL be back.</title>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>28: Season 3 Launch! | Cruel Summer | Shifting 11 Gears | Behind the curtain at Grace | Tips and Tools and we tango with The Terminator…but WE’LL be back.</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this kickoff to Season 3, Derek and Danielle set the stage for an exciting new chapter of Reinventing Church. They revisit the five original mind-shifting insights that sparked the whole podcast. They preview this season's theme of 11 pivotal shifts every church must make. This episode also introduces a brand-new Ministry Tools and Tips segment. Derek explores the theological boundaries of AI, offering both cautions and practical guidelines for church leaders</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this kickoff to Season 3, Derek and Danielle set the stage for an exciting new chapter of Reinventing Church. They revisit the five original mind-shifting insights that sparked the whole podcast. They preview this season's theme of 11 pivotal shifts every church must make. This episode also introduces a brand-new Ministry Tools and Tips segment. Derek explores the theological boundaries of AI, offering both cautions and practical guidelines for church leaders</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Stanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this kickoff to Season 3, Derek and Danielle set the stage for an exciting new chapter of Reinventing Church. They revisit the five original mind-shifting insights that sparked the whole podcast. They preview this season's theme of 11 pivotal shifts every church must make. This episode also introduces a brand-new Ministry Tools and Tips segment. Derek explores the theological boundaries of AI, offering both cautions and practical guidelines for church leaders</p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>27: From Vision to Action: Crafting Our Future</title>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This special audio-only bonus episode of 'Reinventing Church' features Danielle, Derek, and Aaron discussing the critical components of their church's vision frame for the staff and broader community. They delve into the mission, values, strategy, and measures that guide their ministry, all aimed at aligning with their 'Awake the Lake' 10-year vision. The episode outlines the mission of following Jesus and living out God's story every day, the core values that drive their decisions, the four-part strategy for discipleship, and the specific measures used to gauge success. The speakers emphasize the importance of each staff member and churchgoer understanding and embodying these ideas to achieve their vision of mobilizing 30,000 people by 2035 to bring gospel influence into everyday life.</p><p>00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Episode</p><p>00:55 Vision Frame Overview</p><p>05:05 Mission: What Are We Doing?</p><p>07:47 Values: Why Are We Doing It This Way?</p><p>10:57 Strategy: How Are We Doing It?</p><p>13:19 Measures: When Are We Successful?</p><p>15:11 Vision Proper: Where Is God Taking Us?</p><p>16:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This special audio-only bonus episode of 'Reinventing Church' features Danielle, Derek, and Aaron discussing the critical components of their church's vision frame for the staff and broader community. They delve into the mission, values, strategy, and measures that guide their ministry, all aimed at aligning with their 'Awake the Lake' 10-year vision. The episode outlines the mission of following Jesus and living out God's story every day, the core values that drive their decisions, the four-part strategy for discipleship, and the specific measures used to gauge success. The speakers emphasize the importance of each staff member and churchgoer understanding and embodying these ideas to achieve their vision of mobilizing 30,000 people by 2035 to bring gospel influence into everyday life.</p><p>00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Episode</p><p>00:55 Vision Frame Overview</p><p>05:05 Mission: What Are We Doing?</p><p>07:47 Values: Why Are We Doing It This Way?</p><p>10:57 Strategy: How Are We Doing It?</p><p>13:19 Measures: When Are We Successful?</p><p>15:11 Vision Proper: Where Is God Taking Us?</p><p>16:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2025 14:22:07 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This special audio-only bonus episode of 'Reinventing Church' features Danielle, Derek, and Aaron discussing the critical components of their church's vision frame for the staff and broader community. They delve into the mission, values, strategy, and measures that guide their ministry, all aimed at aligning with their 'Awake the Lake' 10-year vision. The episode outlines the mission of following Jesus and living out God's story every day, the core values that drive their decisions, the four-part strategy for discipleship, and the specific measures used to gauge success. The speakers emphasize the importance of each staff member and churchgoer understanding and embodying these ideas to achieve their vision of mobilizing 30,000 people by 2035 to bring gospel influence into everyday life.</p><p>00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Episode</p><p>00:55 Vision Frame Overview</p><p>05:05 Mission: What Are We Doing?</p><p>07:47 Values: Why Are We Doing It This Way?</p><p>10:57 Strategy: How Are We Doing It?</p><p>13:19 Measures: When Are We Successful?</p><p>15:11 Vision Proper: Where Is God Taking Us?</p><p>16:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>26: Season Finale! What have we learned so far in our transition to a missional model? | Televangelists | Lessons from a 40-Day digital fast | Holy Week Reflections</title>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>26: Season Finale! What have we learned so far in our transition to a missional model? | Televangelists | Lessons from a 40-Day digital fast | Holy Week Reflections</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle reflect on six lessons they've learned this season as they transition from a church growth model to a missional multiplication model. </p><p>For full show notes, visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle reflect on six lessons they've learned this season as they transition from a church growth model to a missional multiplication model. </p><p>For full show notes, visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:00:11 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>2525</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle reflect on six lessons they've learned this season as they transition from a church growth model to a missional multiplication model. </p><p>For full show notes, visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>25. A New Approach to Developing People | The Tape Ministry | A simple format for staff trainings | A Unique Approach to Baby Dedications </title>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>25. A New Approach to Developing People | The Tape Ministry | A simple format for staff trainings | A Unique Approach to Baby Dedications </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Beyond hopping people from program to program and calling it discipleship. How can the church actually devleop people into Christilikenss. Join this fascinating conversation with Diane Wright. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Beyond hopping people from program to program and calling it discipleship. How can the church actually devleop people into Christilikenss. Join this fascinating conversation with Diane Wright. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Beyond hopping people from program to program and calling it discipleship. How can the church actually devleop people into Christilikenss. Join this fascinating conversation with Diane Wright. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House talk about how churches can unintentionally lead with programs and how to pivot to a relational disciple-making approach.  </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House talk about how churches can unintentionally lead with programs and how to pivot to a relational disciple-making approach.  </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House talk about how churches can unintentionally lead with programs and how to pivot to a relational disciple-making approach.  </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>23: Helping Churches Transition from Teaching Center to Training Center | 90’s “Contemporary” worship | Our Preaching Calendar Process | Roundtable Training Benefits</title>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House discuss the major shift happening in disciple-making churches to adopt an approach of training over teaching. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House discuss the major shift happening in disciple-making churches to adopt an approach of training over teaching. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>2815</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Rhodes and Shane Stacey from Clarity House discuss the major shift happening in disciple-making churches to adopt an approach of training over teaching. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>22: Reimagining worship gatherings through a missional lens</title>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How should we think about our worship liturgy if we have a room full of missionaries vs. a room full of consumers? A conversation with Andrew Silbert. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>How should we think about our worship liturgy if we have a room full of missionaries vs. a room full of consumers? A conversation with Andrew Silbert. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How should we think about our worship liturgy if we have a room full of missionaries vs. a room full of consumers? A conversation with Andrew Silbert. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>21: Unleashing the Church Beyond Sunday </title>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>21: Unleashing the Church Beyond Sunday </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>4268</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>20. Focusing a Big Church on Front Yard Missions, a Fixation on Choreography, Teaching Leadership vs. Training Leadership, and Leadership Meta-Metaphors</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Focusing a Big Church on Front Yard Missions: an interview with Pastor Dan Nold. And how his role as a pastor and the focus of his church shifted through COVID.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Focusing a Big Church on Front Yard Missions: an interview with Pastor Dan Nold. And how his role as a pastor and the focus of his church shifted through COVID.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Focusing a Big Church on Front Yard Missions: an interview with Pastor Dan Nold. And how his role as a pastor and the focus of his church shifted through COVID.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>19. Strategic Partnerships: Cooperation or Competition? Megachurch Merch, and a Theology of Life Experiences.</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Cooperation instead of Competition among churches. An interview with Pastor Stephen explores the challenging dynamic of a big church and small church partnerships. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Cooperation instead of Competition among churches. An interview with Pastor Stephen explores the challenging dynamic of a big church and small church partnerships. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Cooperation instead of Competition among churches. An interview with Pastor Stephen explores the challenging dynamic of a big church and small church partnerships. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>18. Mega-church vs. Big church, How to be an embedded influencer, Zany youth group games, and giving new life to old ideas. </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Embedded Influencer: We interview the energetic Angus Beibel about his exploits, reminisce about crazy youth group games, parse the differences between mega-churches and big churches, and resurrect some old church documents. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Embedded Influencer: We interview the energetic Angus Beibel about his exploits, reminisce about crazy youth group games, parse the differences between mega-churches and big churches, and resurrect some old church documents. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Embedded Influencer: We interview the energetic Angus Beibel about his exploits, reminisce about crazy youth group games, parse the differences between mega-churches and big churches, and resurrect some old church documents. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>17. Hollywood dreams, reassuring the team through the messy middle, How to Be a Savvy Follower, and honoring volunteers </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Savvy Follower: Pastor Sarah interviews Steve Reisenauer while Derek and Danielle explore the church and pop culture, leading through the messy middle of a vision, and honoring volunteer leaders. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Savvy Follower: Pastor Sarah interviews Steve Reisenauer while Derek and Danielle explore the church and pop culture, leading through the messy middle of a vision, and honoring volunteer leaders. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Savvy Follower: Pastor Sarah interviews Steve Reisenauer while Derek and Danielle explore the church and pop culture, leading through the messy middle of a vision, and honoring volunteer leaders. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>17</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Megachurch memories of the greased-up power team and other evangelistice efforts. Then Derek and Danielle discuss some recent learnings from another church leader about how the church can support deployed Christians out side the church's walls. They welcome Pastor Sarah and Tracy Dailey to hear Tracy's amazing account of finding her tragedy in God's story and living out the Compassionate Storyteller discipleship role. Finally a quick lesson about ministry addition vs. multiplication. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Megachurch memories of the greased-up power team and other evangelistice efforts. Then Derek and Danielle discuss some recent learnings from another church leader about how the church can support deployed Christians out side the church's walls. They welcome Pastor Sarah and Tracy Dailey to hear Tracy's amazing account of finding her tragedy in God's story and living out the Compassionate Storyteller discipleship role. Finally a quick lesson about ministry addition vs. multiplication. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2025 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle continue to reflect on some cringey megachurch memories this time exploring the days of church skits and drama teams. The explore a Dream Disciple role of how to be an Intentional Friend in an interview with Pastor Scott and Dave Case. They discuss the value of stepping back out of the weeds and asking bigger discipleship questions and finally reflect on a recent training session with small group leaders. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2025 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle kick off Season 2 of the Reinventing Church Podcast. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle kick off Season 2 of the Reinventing Church Podcast. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2025 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Derek and Danielle kick off Season 2 of the Reinventing Church Podcast. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle call to mind some of their favorite Christmas albums of all time. They field a listener question about leaving churches that become too political. They also reflect on 6 lessons they've learned so far almost one year in to their Reinventing Church journey. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle call to mind some of their favorite Christmas albums of all time. They field a listener question about leaving churches that become too political. They also reflect on 6 lessons they've learned so far almost one year in to their Reinventing Church journey. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2024 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>12. Helping Churches Find their Voice | Does a person need to be baptized to get into heaven? | Celebrating some wins. </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle explore Derek's weird fantasy football league, and talk about baptism and salvation and how they are different.  Then special guest Stephen Hay talks about some recent work he's done in how to help big and small churches alike to find their voice in their region. Finally we celebrate some recent wins in our Awake the Lake vision. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle explore Derek's weird fantasy football league, and talk about baptism and salvation and how they are different.  Then special guest Stephen Hay talks about some recent work he's done in how to help big and small churches alike to find their voice in their region. Finally we celebrate some recent wins in our Awake the Lake vision. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2024 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we react to the birth of Derek's first grandchild Ruby Jude! Derek offers 3 principles for HOW to leave a church. Then guest Mark Becker, an administrator at a large public high school, talks about his experience with the recent leadership intensive with a disciple-making bent. Finally, Danielle and Derek have a meltdown as they try to discuss aligning teams around Core Values. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we react to the birth of Derek's first grandchild Ruby Jude! Derek offers 3 principles for HOW to leave a church. Then guest Mark Becker, an administrator at a large public high school, talks about his experience with the recent leadership intensive with a disciple-making bent. Finally, Danielle and Derek have a meltdown as they try to discuss aligning teams around Core Values. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle quizzes Derek on real Bible verses vs. AI pretenders. They explore good and bad reasons to leave a church. Then guest Pastor Justin Bleuer discusses the importance of EQ in ministry. And finally they reflect on the good and bad of annual meetings and Derek's lingering PTSD.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle quizzes Derek on real Bible verses vs. AI pretenders. They explore good and bad reasons to leave a church. Then guest Pastor Justin Bleuer discusses the importance of EQ in ministry. And finally they reflect on the good and bad of annual meetings and Derek's lingering PTSD.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle discuss favorite vacation spots. They wrestle with the inbox question about why doesn’t our church always preach verse by verse through the bible? Then we're joined by special guest Dr. Dan Nichols to talk about Pursuing discipleship in different-sized churches, and finally helping teams to own organizational change. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle discuss favorite vacation spots. They wrestle with the inbox question about why doesn’t our church always preach verse by verse through the bible? Then we're joined by special guest Dr. Dan Nichols to talk about Pursuing discipleship in different-sized churches, and finally helping teams to own organizational change. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle have another local theater experience to discuss. They also tackle a deep question from the pastor's inbox about the existence of hell. Then longtime pastor Mike Watson discusses his calling from the Jesus Movement days, through the megachurch era, and how he's helping struggling fathers in his retirement. Finally, they have some initial experiences with the new discipleship orientation exeprience at Grace. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle have another local theater experience to discuss. They also tackle a deep question from the pastor's inbox about the existence of hell. Then longtime pastor Mike Watson discusses his calling from the Jesus Movement days, through the megachurch era, and how he's helping struggling fathers in his retirement. Finally, they have some initial experiences with the new discipleship orientation exeprience at Grace. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 02:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle have another local theater experience to discuss. They also tackle a deep question from the pastor's inbox about the existence of hell. Then longtime pastor Mike Watson discusses his calling from the Jesus Movement days, through the megachurch era, and how he's helping struggling fathers in his retirement. Finally, they have some initial experiences with the new discipleship orientation exeprience at Grace. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>7. Understanding Your Church’s Local Predicament | Why do we do video preaching? | The launch of a new find-your-calling experience</title>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>7. Understanding Your Church’s Local Predicament | Why do we do video preaching? | The launch of a new find-your-calling experience</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle and Derek talk about the difference between sportsy families and artsy families. They discuss the merits and struggles with video preaching. Then guest Aaron Lundberg talks about how churches and individuals can define and address the local predicaments in their community. Finally, they talk about Derek's nervous launch of a new "find your calling" experience. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle and Derek talk about the difference between sportsy families and artsy families. They discuss the merits and struggles with video preaching. Then guest Aaron Lundberg talks about how churches and individuals can define and address the local predicaments in their community. Finally, they talk about Derek's nervous launch of a new "find your calling" experience. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:duration>3870</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle and Derek talk about the difference between sportsy families and artsy families. They discuss the merits and struggles with video preaching. Then guest Aaron Lundberg talks about how churches and individuals can define and address the local predicaments in their community. Finally, they talk about Derek's nervous launch of a new "find your calling" experience. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>6. Redefining what it means to be “Called to Ministry” | Should the church tell people how to vote? | The rise and fall of vision Sunday </title>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>6. Redefining what it means to be “Called to Ministry” | Should the church tell people how to vote? | The rise and fall of vision Sunday </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, after talking about their top 10 movies,  Derek and Danielle get into the great American debate about how people should vote. Then, guest Andrea Bierer talks about an upside-down way of thinking about pursuing your calling in the workplace. Finally, we reflect on the good and the bad aspects of our recent vision on Sunday. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, after talking about their top 10 movies,  Derek and Danielle get into the great American debate about how people should vote. Then, guest Andrea Bierer talks about an upside-down way of thinking about pursuing your calling in the workplace. Finally, we reflect on the good and the bad aspects of our recent vision on Sunday. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2024 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Derek Sanford</author>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, after talking about their top 10 movies,  Derek and Danielle get into the great American debate about how people should vote. Then, guest Andrea Bierer talks about an upside-down way of thinking about pursuing your calling in the workplace. Finally, we reflect on the good and the bad aspects of our recent vision on Sunday. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>5: How can churches measure the right things? | Is it a sin to buy and sell things in the church lobby? |  Reminding people of the "why"</title>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>5: How can churches measure the right things? | Is it a sin to buy and sell things in the church lobby? |  Reminding people of the "why"</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss buying and selling things inside the church and wouldn’t Jesus be flipping over some tables? Then we welcome Pastor Scott Michel to the podcast to discuss sports medicine, outcome measures, and how these experiences can help to measure discipleship in the church. Finally, Derek and Danielle discuss the importance of finding the “why” when meetings go off the rails! </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss buying and selling things inside the church and wouldn’t Jesus be flipping over some tables? Then we welcome Pastor Scott Michel to the podcast to discuss sports medicine, outcome measures, and how these experiences can help to measure discipleship in the church. Finally, Derek and Danielle discuss the importance of finding the “why” when meetings go off the rails! </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2024 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss buying and selling things inside the church and wouldn’t Jesus be flipping over some tables? Then we welcome Pastor Scott Michel to the podcast to discuss sports medicine, outcome measures, and how these experiences can help to measure discipleship in the church. Finally, Derek and Danielle discuss the importance of finding the “why” when meetings go off the rails! </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>4: The Church as a Training Center | Why won’t the church announce my favorite cause? | Levels of Learning</title>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle talk about their personal coffee journeys, and answer some tough email questions about why the church doesn’t include every cause or ministry in their weekend announcements. The main conversation with Pastor Sarah Burtt focuses on the adjustments needed to make the church a training center and not just a teaching center. At the end Danielle and Derek reflect on a recent misstep and the proper order in which to innovate.  </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle talk about their personal coffee journeys, and answer some tough email questions about why the church doesn’t include every cause or ministry in their weekend announcements. The main conversation with Pastor Sarah Burtt focuses on the adjustments needed to make the church a training center and not just a teaching center. At the end Danielle and Derek reflect on a recent misstep and the proper order in which to innovate.  </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2024 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Derek Sanford</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Derek and Danielle talk about their personal coffee journeys, and answer some tough email questions about why the church doesn’t include every cause or ministry in their weekend announcements. The main conversation with Pastor Sarah Burtt focuses on the adjustments needed to make the church a training center and not just a teaching center. At the end Danielle and Derek reflect on a recent misstep and the proper order in which to innovate.  </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>3: Is loud worship music unspiritual? | How to know if God has released you to move on to something new | and Piloting new things.</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we'll talk about why kids these days like their worship music so loud. The main conversation with Pastor Stephen Hay centers on how to know when it’s time to move on from a ministry and when it's time to stay and double down. We also reflect on the importance of piloting new things before rolling them out. Bonus: we get breaking news on Derek's preferred grandpa name. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we'll talk about why kids these days like their worship music so loud. The main conversation with Pastor Stephen Hay centers on how to know when it’s time to move on from a ministry and when it's time to stay and double down. We also reflect on the importance of piloting new things before rolling them out. Bonus: we get breaking news on Derek's preferred grandpa name. </p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2: Should we sing worship songs from churches we don’t agree with | How to know if it’s time to make big changes at your church | Setting short-term goals</title>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Derek and Danielle dive into some NFL and Swifties controversy, we cover why we sing songs that come out of churches that we might not totally agree with theologically, how to know when it’s time to reinvent YOUR church, and a look at how we’re setting short-term goals to accomplish big things at Grace.  </p><p>For full show notes, visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Derek and Danielle dive into some NFL and Swifties controversy, we cover why we sing songs that come out of churches that we might not totally agree with theologically, how to know when it’s time to reinvent YOUR church, and a look at how we’re setting short-term goals to accomplish big things at Grace.  </p><p>For full show notes, visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>leadership, church, pastor, faith, Christianity, calling, disciple, discipleship, small groups, volunteer, worship, mission, missional</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1: CS Lewis or Taylor Swift | Do Christians have to side with Israel? | 5 mind-shifts about Re-Inventing Church | How to design LOVE in</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle tests Derek to see if he can tell the difference between Taylor Swift song lyrics and quotes from his favorite author, CS Lewis. They also tackle the hot topic of how to respond to people in the church who believe that the church should be more focused on the events happening in Israel that they currently are. Are Christians obligated by their faith to support Israel no matter what the cost? Then Derek reflects on 5 Mind-Shifting insights about Reinventing church that he’s learned over the past year of strategizing about a whole-church overhaul. Finally, they talk about a recent church baptism experience and consider what it might look like for churches to design love into all they do.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Danielle tests Derek to see if he can tell the difference between Taylor Swift song lyrics and quotes from his favorite author, CS Lewis. They also tackle the hot topic of how to respond to people in the church who believe that the church should be more focused on the events happening in Israel that they currently are. Are Christians obligated by their faith to support Israel no matter what the cost? Then Derek reflects on 5 Mind-Shifting insights about Reinventing church that he’s learned over the past year of strategizing about a whole-church overhaul. Finally, they talk about a recent church baptism experience and consider what it might look like for churches to design love into all they do.</p><p>For full show notes visit: <a href="https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch">https://dereksanford.com/reinventingchurch</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2024 02:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>INTRODUCTION | Reinventing Church</title>
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