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        <![CDATA[<p>Are young people really having less sex? Headlines about a “sex recession” suggest a dramatic decline—but what do the data actually show? In this episode, we trace that claim back to the research behind it—and find a story that’s far more nuanced than the headlines suggest. We examine large national surveys, including the General Social Survey and the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior, and uncover how small analytical choices can completely change the story. Along the way, we tackle ordinal versus quantitative data, why averages can mislead, how logistic regression reframes the question, and what happens when researchers try to time-travel with statistics. Plus: the surprising role of extreme values, why “eight fewer sexual encounters per year” may not mean what you think, and whether young men and women are really following the same trends.</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Average vs distribution</li><li>Binary variables</li><li>Effect size vs statistical significance</li><li>Logistic regression</li><li>Measurement / operationalization</li><li>Ordinal variables</li><li>Outliers / extreme values</li><li>Self-reported datagoog</li><li>Social desirability bias</li><li>Variable coding / transformation<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>“You shouldn't use data from people in their 80s to guess what they were doing in their 20s unless your data come with a time machine.”</li><li>“When extreme values drive the average, the average stops describing most people.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Julian K. Why are young people having so little sex? <em>The Atlantic</em>. December 2018. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/"> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/</a></li><li>Skwarecki B. Nearly half of Gen Z adults have never had sex: report. <em>Newsweek</em>. January 7, 2025. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178"> https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178</a></li><li>Virginity survey. DatingAdvice.com. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey"> https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey</a></li><li>Twenge JM, Sherman RA, Wells BE. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28265779/">Declines in sexual frequency among American adults, 1989-2014</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2017;46(8):2389-2401.</li><li>Ueda P, Mercer CH, Ghaznavi C, Herbenick D. T<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/">rends in frequency of sexual activity and number of sexual partners among adults aged 18 to 44 years in the US, 2000-2018</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2020;3(6):e203833.</li><li>Herbenick D, Rosenberg M, Golzarri-Arroyo L, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34799832/">Changes in penile-vaginal intercourse frequency and sexual repertoire from 2009 to 2018: findings from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2022;51(3):1419-1433.</li><li>Wellings K, Palmer MJ, Machiyama K, Slaymaker E. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31064762/">Changes in, and factors associated with, frequency of sex in Britain: evidence from three National Surveys of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles (Natsal)</a>. <em>BMJ</em>. 2019;365:l1525. Published 2019 May 7. doi:10.1136/bmj.l1525</li><li>Burghardt J, Beutel ME, Hasenburg A, Schmutzer G, Brähler E. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31802290/">Declining Sexual Activity and Desire in Women: Findings from Representative German Surveys 2005 and 2016</a>. Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):919-925. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01525-9. Epub 2019 Dec 4. Erratum in: Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):927. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01622-9. PMID: 31802290.</li><li>Twenge JM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530467/">Possible Reasons US Adults Are Not Having Sex as Much as They Used To</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2020;3(6):e203889. Published 2020 Jun 1. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.3889</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(04:04) - Fact-Checking the Headlines</li>
<li>(07:37) - The Twenge Study and the GSS</li>
<li>(16:02) - The Hill-Shaped Trend</li>
<li>(19:23) - The Ordinal Variable Problem</li>
<li>(24:59) - The Married vs. Never-Married Paradox</li>
<li>(28:39) - Time-Traveling to the 1920s</li>
<li>(32:35) - The Ueda Study: A Better Approach</li>
<li>(36:22) - The Two Classrooms</li>
<li>(43:39) - What Counts as Sex?</li>
<li>(50:49) - Historical Sex Terms</li>
<li>(54:32) - The Sexual Repertoire Results</li>
<li>(57:50) - Why Is This Happening?</li>
<li>(01:04:09) - Rating the Claim</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Are young people really having less sex? Headlines about a “sex recession” suggest a dramatic decline—but what do the data actually show? In this episode, we trace that claim back to the research behind it—and find a story that’s far more nuanced than the headlines suggest. We examine large national surveys, including the General Social Survey and the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior, and uncover how small analytical choices can completely change the story. Along the way, we tackle ordinal versus quantitative data, why averages can mislead, how logistic regression reframes the question, and what happens when researchers try to time-travel with statistics. Plus: the surprising role of extreme values, why “eight fewer sexual encounters per year” may not mean what you think, and whether young men and women are really following the same trends.</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Average vs distribution</li><li>Binary variables</li><li>Effect size vs statistical significance</li><li>Logistic regression</li><li>Measurement / operationalization</li><li>Ordinal variables</li><li>Outliers / extreme values</li><li>Self-reported datagoog</li><li>Social desirability bias</li><li>Variable coding / transformation<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>“You shouldn't use data from people in their 80s to guess what they were doing in their 20s unless your data come with a time machine.”</li><li>“When extreme values drive the average, the average stops describing most people.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Julian K. Why are young people having so little sex? <em>The Atlantic</em>. December 2018. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/"> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/</a></li><li>Skwarecki B. Nearly half of Gen Z adults have never had sex: report. <em>Newsweek</em>. January 7, 2025. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178"> https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178</a></li><li>Virginity survey. DatingAdvice.com. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey"> https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey</a></li><li>Twenge JM, Sherman RA, Wells BE. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28265779/">Declines in sexual frequency among American adults, 1989-2014</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2017;46(8):2389-2401.</li><li>Ueda P, Mercer CH, Ghaznavi C, Herbenick D. T<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/">rends in frequency of sexual activity and number of sexual partners among adults aged 18 to 44 years in the US, 2000-2018</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2020;3(6):e203833.</li><li>Herbenick D, Rosenberg M, Golzarri-Arroyo L, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34799832/">Changes in penile-vaginal intercourse frequency and sexual repertoire from 2009 to 2018: findings from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2022;51(3):1419-1433.</li><li>Wellings K, Palmer MJ, Machiyama K, Slaymaker E. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31064762/">Changes in, and factors associated with, frequency of sex in Britain: evidence from three National Surveys of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles (Natsal)</a>. <em>BMJ</em>. 2019;365:l1525. Published 2019 May 7. doi:10.1136/bmj.l1525</li><li>Burghardt J, Beutel ME, Hasenburg A, Schmutzer G, Brähler E. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31802290/">Declining Sexual Activity and Desire in Women: Findings from Representative German Surveys 2005 and 2016</a>. Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):919-925. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01525-9. Epub 2019 Dec 4. Erratum in: Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):927. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01622-9. PMID: 31802290.</li><li>Twenge JM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530467/">Possible Reasons US Adults Are Not Having Sex as Much as They Used To</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2020;3(6):e203889. Published 2020 Jun 1. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.3889</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(04:04) - Fact-Checking the Headlines</li>
<li>(07:37) - The Twenge Study and the GSS</li>
<li>(16:02) - The Hill-Shaped Trend</li>
<li>(19:23) - The Ordinal Variable Problem</li>
<li>(24:59) - The Married vs. Never-Married Paradox</li>
<li>(28:39) - Time-Traveling to the 1920s</li>
<li>(32:35) - The Ueda Study: A Better Approach</li>
<li>(36:22) - The Two Classrooms</li>
<li>(43:39) - What Counts as Sex?</li>
<li>(50:49) - Historical Sex Terms</li>
<li>(54:32) - The Sexual Repertoire Results</li>
<li>(57:50) - Why Is This Happening?</li>
<li>(01:04:09) - Rating the Claim</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Are young people really having less sex? Headlines about a “sex recession” suggest a dramatic decline—but what do the data actually show? In this episode, we trace that claim back to the research behind it—and find a story that’s far more nuanced than the headlines suggest. We examine large national surveys, including the General Social Survey and the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior, and uncover how small analytical choices can completely change the story. Along the way, we tackle ordinal versus quantitative data, why averages can mislead, how logistic regression reframes the question, and what happens when researchers try to time-travel with statistics. Plus: the surprising role of extreme values, why “eight fewer sexual encounters per year” may not mean what you think, and whether young men and women are really following the same trends.</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Average vs distribution</li><li>Binary variables</li><li>Effect size vs statistical significance</li><li>Logistic regression</li><li>Measurement / operationalization</li><li>Ordinal variables</li><li>Outliers / extreme values</li><li>Self-reported datagoog</li><li>Social desirability bias</li><li>Variable coding / transformation<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>“You shouldn't use data from people in their 80s to guess what they were doing in their 20s unless your data come with a time machine.”</li><li>“When extreme values drive the average, the average stops describing most people.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Julian K. Why are young people having so little sex? <em>The Atlantic</em>. December 2018. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/"> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/</a></li><li>Skwarecki B. Nearly half of Gen Z adults have never had sex: report. <em>Newsweek</em>. January 7, 2025. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178"> https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-of-gen-z-adults-have-never-had-sexreport-11052178</a></li><li>Virginity survey. DatingAdvice.com. Accessed April 19, 2026.<a href="https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey"> https://www.datingadvice.com/studies/virginity-survey</a></li><li>Twenge JM, Sherman RA, Wells BE. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28265779/">Declines in sexual frequency among American adults, 1989-2014</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2017;46(8):2389-2401.</li><li>Ueda P, Mercer CH, Ghaznavi C, Herbenick D. T<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530470/">rends in frequency of sexual activity and number of sexual partners among adults aged 18 to 44 years in the US, 2000-2018</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2020;3(6):e203833.</li><li>Herbenick D, Rosenberg M, Golzarri-Arroyo L, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34799832/">Changes in penile-vaginal intercourse frequency and sexual repertoire from 2009 to 2018: findings from the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2022;51(3):1419-1433.</li><li>Wellings K, Palmer MJ, Machiyama K, Slaymaker E. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31064762/">Changes in, and factors associated with, frequency of sex in Britain: evidence from three National Surveys of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles (Natsal)</a>. <em>BMJ</em>. 2019;365:l1525. Published 2019 May 7. doi:10.1136/bmj.l1525</li><li>Burghardt J, Beutel ME, Hasenburg A, Schmutzer G, Brähler E. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31802290/">Declining Sexual Activity and Desire in Women: Findings from Representative German Surveys 2005 and 2016</a>. Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):919-925. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01525-9. Epub 2019 Dec 4. Erratum in: Arch Sex Behav. 2020 Apr;49(3):927. doi: 10.1007/s10508-019-01622-9. PMID: 31802290.</li><li>Twenge JM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32530467/">Possible Reasons US Adults Are Not Having Sex as Much as They Used To</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2020;3(6):e203889. Published 2020 Jun 1. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.3889</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(04:04) - Fact-Checking the Headlines</li>
<li>(07:37) - The Twenge Study and the GSS</li>
<li>(16:02) - The Hill-Shaped Trend</li>
<li>(19:23) - The Ordinal Variable Problem</li>
<li>(24:59) - The Married vs. Never-Married Paradox</li>
<li>(28:39) - Time-Traveling to the 1920s</li>
<li>(32:35) - The Ueda Study: A Better Approach</li>
<li>(36:22) - The Two Classrooms</li>
<li>(43:39) - What Counts as Sex?</li>
<li>(50:49) - Historical Sex Terms</li>
<li>(54:32) - The Sexual Repertoire Results</li>
<li>(57:50) - Why Is This Happening?</li>
<li>(01:04:09) - Rating the Claim</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Diagnostic testing: what do those statistics actually tell you? Sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value . . . you’ve probably seen these terms before. Maybe you memorized them for a test. But do you actually know what they mean? In this episode, we take a closer look at how diagnostic tests are evaluated—and how they’re often misinterpreted. From a genetic test for cellulite to a blood test for autism, we explore how “statistically significant” findings can turn into tests that don’t actually help anyone. Along the way we meet the freckle gene, the wanderlust gene, and infidelity gene. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Base Rate</li><li>Bayes Rule</li><li>Case-Control Study</li><li>Matching</li><li>Conditional Probability</li><li>Sensitivity</li><li>Specificity</li><li>Positive Predictive Value</li><li>Prevalence</li><li>Negative Predictive Value</li><li>False Positives and Negatives</li><li>True Positives and Negatives</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“A biomarker paper is not the same thing as a biomarker test.”</li><li>“If your sample doesn't match the real world, then for all of your positive predictive value needs, call on Bayes' theorem.”</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/diagnostic-testing/"><strong>Detailed Show Notes</strong></a><strong> with calculations</strong></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Emanuele E, Bertona M, Geroldi D. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-3083.2009.03556.x">A multilocus candidate approach identifies ACE and HIF1A as susceptibility genes for cellulite.</a> <em>Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology</em>; 2010. 24: 930-35. </li><li><a href="https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite">https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite</a></li><li><a href="https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/">https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/</a> </li><li>Ebstein RP, Novick O, Umansky R, et al.<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/ng0196-78"> Dopamine D4 receptor (D4DR) exon III polymorphism associated with the human personality trait of Novelty Seeking</a>. <em>Nat Genet</em>. 1996;12:78-80. </li><li>Kluger AN, Siegfried Z, Ebstein RP. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/4001082">A meta-analysis of the association between DRD4 polymorphism and novelty seeking</a>. <em>Mol Psychiatry</em>. 2002;7:712-7.</li><li>He Y, Martin N, Zhu G, Liu Y. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/psychgenetics/abstract/2018/12000/candidate_genes_for_novelty_seeking__a.1.aspx">Candidate genes for novelty-seeking: a meta-analysis of association studies of DRD4 exon III and COMT Val158Met</a>. <em>Psychiatr Genet</em>. 2018 Dec;28(6):97-109. </li><li>Smith AM, King JJ, West PR, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6837735/">Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes: Potential Biomarkers for Diagnosis and Individualized Treatment for Subtypes of Autism Spectrum Disorder.</a> <em>Biol Psychiatry</em>. 2019;85:345-54.</li><li>Sainani K, Goodman S. <a href="https://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(18)32024-9/abstract">Lack of Diagnostic Utility of “Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes.”<br></a><em>Biol Psychiatry</em>. 2018; 85: e41-e42.<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li><li>Programs that we teach in:</li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:24) - The Cellulite Test</li>
<li>(06:41) - Understanding Sensitivity and Specificity</li>
<li>(12:50) - Enter Positive Predictive Value</li>
<li>(18:40) - Why Base Rates Matter</li>
<li>(24:06) - More Ridiculous Tests</li>
<li>(33:30) - The Wanderlust Gene Deep Dive</li>
<li>(41:27) - The NeuroPoint Autism Test</li>
<li>(53:34) - Trying to Set the Record Straight</li>
<li>(01:02:39) - Personal Stories</li>
<li>(01:05:54) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Diagnostic testing: what do those statistics actually tell you? Sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value . . . you’ve probably seen these terms before. Maybe you memorized them for a test. But do you actually know what they mean? In this episode, we take a closer look at how diagnostic tests are evaluated—and how they’re often misinterpreted. From a genetic test for cellulite to a blood test for autism, we explore how “statistically significant” findings can turn into tests that don’t actually help anyone. Along the way we meet the freckle gene, the wanderlust gene, and infidelity gene. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Base Rate</li><li>Bayes Rule</li><li>Case-Control Study</li><li>Matching</li><li>Conditional Probability</li><li>Sensitivity</li><li>Specificity</li><li>Positive Predictive Value</li><li>Prevalence</li><li>Negative Predictive Value</li><li>False Positives and Negatives</li><li>True Positives and Negatives</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“A biomarker paper is not the same thing as a biomarker test.”</li><li>“If your sample doesn't match the real world, then for all of your positive predictive value needs, call on Bayes' theorem.”</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/diagnostic-testing/"><strong>Detailed Show Notes</strong></a><strong> with calculations</strong></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Emanuele E, Bertona M, Geroldi D. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-3083.2009.03556.x">A multilocus candidate approach identifies ACE and HIF1A as susceptibility genes for cellulite.</a> <em>Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology</em>; 2010. 24: 930-35. </li><li><a href="https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite">https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite</a></li><li><a href="https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/">https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/</a> </li><li>Ebstein RP, Novick O, Umansky R, et al.<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/ng0196-78"> Dopamine D4 receptor (D4DR) exon III polymorphism associated with the human personality trait of Novelty Seeking</a>. <em>Nat Genet</em>. 1996;12:78-80. </li><li>Kluger AN, Siegfried Z, Ebstein RP. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/4001082">A meta-analysis of the association between DRD4 polymorphism and novelty seeking</a>. <em>Mol Psychiatry</em>. 2002;7:712-7.</li><li>He Y, Martin N, Zhu G, Liu Y. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/psychgenetics/abstract/2018/12000/candidate_genes_for_novelty_seeking__a.1.aspx">Candidate genes for novelty-seeking: a meta-analysis of association studies of DRD4 exon III and COMT Val158Met</a>. <em>Psychiatr Genet</em>. 2018 Dec;28(6):97-109. </li><li>Smith AM, King JJ, West PR, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6837735/">Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes: Potential Biomarkers for Diagnosis and Individualized Treatment for Subtypes of Autism Spectrum Disorder.</a> <em>Biol Psychiatry</em>. 2019;85:345-54.</li><li>Sainani K, Goodman S. <a href="https://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(18)32024-9/abstract">Lack of Diagnostic Utility of “Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes.”<br></a><em>Biol Psychiatry</em>. 2018; 85: e41-e42.<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li><li>Programs that we teach in:</li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:24) - The Cellulite Test</li>
<li>(06:41) - Understanding Sensitivity and Specificity</li>
<li>(12:50) - Enter Positive Predictive Value</li>
<li>(18:40) - Why Base Rates Matter</li>
<li>(24:06) - More Ridiculous Tests</li>
<li>(33:30) - The Wanderlust Gene Deep Dive</li>
<li>(41:27) - The NeuroPoint Autism Test</li>
<li>(53:34) - Trying to Set the Record Straight</li>
<li>(01:02:39) - Personal Stories</li>
<li>(01:05:54) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Diagnostic testing: what do those statistics actually tell you? Sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value . . . you’ve probably seen these terms before. Maybe you memorized them for a test. But do you actually know what they mean? In this episode, we take a closer look at how diagnostic tests are evaluated—and how they’re often misinterpreted. From a genetic test for cellulite to a blood test for autism, we explore how “statistically significant” findings can turn into tests that don’t actually help anyone. Along the way we meet the freckle gene, the wanderlust gene, and infidelity gene. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Base Rate</li><li>Bayes Rule</li><li>Case-Control Study</li><li>Matching</li><li>Conditional Probability</li><li>Sensitivity</li><li>Specificity</li><li>Positive Predictive Value</li><li>Prevalence</li><li>Negative Predictive Value</li><li>False Positives and Negatives</li><li>True Positives and Negatives</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“A biomarker paper is not the same thing as a biomarker test.”</li><li>“If your sample doesn't match the real world, then for all of your positive predictive value needs, call on Bayes' theorem.”</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/diagnostic-testing/"><strong>Detailed Show Notes</strong></a><strong> with calculations</strong></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Emanuele E, Bertona M, Geroldi D. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-3083.2009.03556.x">A multilocus candidate approach identifies ACE and HIF1A as susceptibility genes for cellulite.</a> <em>Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology</em>; 2010. 24: 930-35. </li><li><a href="https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite">https://genomelink.io/traits/cellulite</a></li><li><a href="https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/">https://www.genexdiagnostics.com/</a> </li><li>Ebstein RP, Novick O, Umansky R, et al.<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/ng0196-78"> Dopamine D4 receptor (D4DR) exon III polymorphism associated with the human personality trait of Novelty Seeking</a>. <em>Nat Genet</em>. 1996;12:78-80. </li><li>Kluger AN, Siegfried Z, Ebstein RP. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/4001082">A meta-analysis of the association between DRD4 polymorphism and novelty seeking</a>. <em>Mol Psychiatry</em>. 2002;7:712-7.</li><li>He Y, Martin N, Zhu G, Liu Y. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/psychgenetics/abstract/2018/12000/candidate_genes_for_novelty_seeking__a.1.aspx">Candidate genes for novelty-seeking: a meta-analysis of association studies of DRD4 exon III and COMT Val158Met</a>. <em>Psychiatr Genet</em>. 2018 Dec;28(6):97-109. </li><li>Smith AM, King JJ, West PR, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6837735/">Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes: Potential Biomarkers for Diagnosis and Individualized Treatment for Subtypes of Autism Spectrum Disorder.</a> <em>Biol Psychiatry</em>. 2019;85:345-54.</li><li>Sainani K, Goodman S. <a href="https://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(18)32024-9/abstract">Lack of Diagnostic Utility of “Amino Acid Dysregulation Metabotypes.”<br></a><em>Biol Psychiatry</em>. 2018; 85: e41-e42.<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li><li>Programs that we teach in:</li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:24) - The Cellulite Test</li>
<li>(06:41) - Understanding Sensitivity and Specificity</li>
<li>(12:50) - Enter Positive Predictive Value</li>
<li>(18:40) - Why Base Rates Matter</li>
<li>(24:06) - More Ridiculous Tests</li>
<li>(33:30) - The Wanderlust Gene Deep Dive</li>
<li>(41:27) - The NeuroPoint Autism Test</li>
<li>(53:34) - Trying to Set the Record Straight</li>
<li>(01:02:39) - Personal Stories</li>
<li>(01:05:54) - Wrap-up</li>
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      <title>Epidurals: Are labor epidurals really linked to autism?</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Epidurals are widely used and widely trusted for pain relief during labor. So when a 2020 study reported that they might be linked to autism, it raised a troubling question: could a routine medical decision have long-term consequences? We follow that claim from headline to evidence—and watch what happens when other scientists take a closer look. We dig into the original study, a wave of replication studies from around the world, and a meta-analysis that tries to make sense of it all. Along the way, we unpack hazard ratios, Cox regression, inverse probability weighting, and sibling analyses—and why even sophisticated statistical adjustment can’t eliminate confounding. Plus: why bigger datasets don’t solve everything, what happens when results shrink after adjustment, and how a controversial study turned into a case study in science working as it should. Bonus: our first guest journalist interview!<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Cox regression</li><li>Hazard ratios</li><li>Inverse probability weighting (IPTW)</li><li>Multivariable adjustment</li><li>Observational studies</li><li>Residual confounding</li><li>Retrospective cohort studies</li><li>Sibling analysis</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Statistical significance vs practical significance</li><li>Survival analysis<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Every time you adjust the model and the effect gets smaller, that's the universe whispering, maybe don't build a causal story out of this.”</li><li>“Consistency across studies is gold.”</li><li>“There's more to the story than the statistics.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>Dattaro, Laura. <a href="https://www.thetransmitter.org/spectrum/a-questionable-study-linked-epidurals-to-autism-then-what/">A questionable study linked autism to epidurals. Then what?</a> <em>Spectrum. </em>April 18, 2023. </li><li>Dattaro, Laura. <a href="https://nautil.us/how-to-find-baby-sharks-852820">How to find baby sharks.</a><em> Nautilus</em>. September 9. 2024.</li><li><a href="https://www.lauradattaro.com/">Laura Dattaro’s home page</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7424924334152024064/">Phil Kearney’s blog post</a> about the SMART framework.</li><li>Qiu C, Lin JC, Shi JM, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7551212/">Association Between Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders in Offspring</a>.<em> JAMA Pediatr</em>. 2020;174:1168-1175. </li><li>Joint Statement. <a href="https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/newsroom/news-releases/2020/10/labor-epidurals-and-autism-joint-statement">Labor Epidurals Do Not Cause Autism; Safe for Mothers and Infants, say Anesthesiology, Obstetrics, and Pediatric Medical Societies</a>. American Society of Anesthesiologists. October 12, 2020.</li><li>Wall-Wieler E, Bateman BT, Hanlon-Dearman A, Roos LL, Butwick AJ. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8056314/">Association of Epidural Labor Analgesia With Offspring Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders</a>. <em>JAMA Pediatr</em>. 2021;175:698-705. </li><li>Christakis DA. <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2778780">More on epidurals and autism.</a> <em>JAMA Pediatric</em>s. 2021; 175: 705.</li><li>Mikkelsen AP, Greiber IK, Scheller NM, Lidegaard Ø. <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784508">Association of Labor Epidural Analgesia With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Children</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2021;326:1170–1177. </li><li>Hanley GE, Bickford C, Ip A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34581736/">Association of Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Delivery With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2021;326:1178-1185. </li><li>Hegvik TA, Klungsøyr K, Kuja-Halkola R, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35973476/">Labor epidural analgesia and subsequent risk of offspring autism spectrum disorder and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: a cross-national cohort study of 4.5 million individuals and their siblings</a>. <em>Am J Obstet Gynecol</em>. 2023;228:233.e1-233.e12. Epub 2022 Aug 13. Hu X, Wang B, Chen J, Han D, Wu J. </li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10790590/">Association Between Epidural Labor Analgesia and Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis</a>. J Pain Res;17:227-240. </li></ul><p><br>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:40) - Why autism is hard to study</li>
<li>(05:18) - The original 2020 study</li>
<li>(11:38) - Results &amp; hazard ratios</li>
<li>(15:24) - Confounding &amp; adjustment</li>
<li>(27:29) - Criticism &amp; plausibility </li>
<li>(35:08) - Replications begin</li>
<li>(45:57) - Converging evidence &amp; meta-analysis</li>
<li>(52:07) - What does it mean?</li>
<li>(54:57) - Guest &amp; wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Epidurals are widely used and widely trusted for pain relief during labor. So when a 2020 study reported that they might be linked to autism, it raised a troubling question: could a routine medical decision have long-term consequences? We follow that claim from headline to evidence—and watch what happens when other scientists take a closer look. We dig into the original study, a wave of replication studies from around the world, and a meta-analysis that tries to make sense of it all. Along the way, we unpack hazard ratios, Cox regression, inverse probability weighting, and sibling analyses—and why even sophisticated statistical adjustment can’t eliminate confounding. Plus: why bigger datasets don’t solve everything, what happens when results shrink after adjustment, and how a controversial study turned into a case study in science working as it should. Bonus: our first guest journalist interview!<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Cox regression</li><li>Hazard ratios</li><li>Inverse probability weighting (IPTW)</li><li>Multivariable adjustment</li><li>Observational studies</li><li>Residual confounding</li><li>Retrospective cohort studies</li><li>Sibling analysis</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Statistical significance vs practical significance</li><li>Survival analysis<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Every time you adjust the model and the effect gets smaller, that's the universe whispering, maybe don't build a causal story out of this.”</li><li>“Consistency across studies is gold.”</li><li>“There's more to the story than the statistics.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>Dattaro, Laura. <a href="https://www.thetransmitter.org/spectrum/a-questionable-study-linked-epidurals-to-autism-then-what/">A questionable study linked autism to epidurals. Then what?</a> <em>Spectrum. </em>April 18, 2023. </li><li>Dattaro, Laura. <a href="https://nautil.us/how-to-find-baby-sharks-852820">How to find baby sharks.</a><em> Nautilus</em>. September 9. 2024.</li><li><a href="https://www.lauradattaro.com/">Laura Dattaro’s home page</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7424924334152024064/">Phil Kearney’s blog post</a> about the SMART framework.</li><li>Qiu C, Lin JC, Shi JM, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7551212/">Association Between Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders in Offspring</a>.<em> JAMA Pediatr</em>. 2020;174:1168-1175. </li><li>Joint Statement. <a href="https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/newsroom/news-releases/2020/10/labor-epidurals-and-autism-joint-statement">Labor Epidurals Do Not Cause Autism; Safe for Mothers and Infants, say Anesthesiology, Obstetrics, and Pediatric Medical Societies</a>. American Society of Anesthesiologists. October 12, 2020.</li><li>Wall-Wieler E, Bateman BT, Hanlon-Dearman A, Roos LL, Butwick AJ. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8056314/">Association of Epidural Labor Analgesia With Offspring Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders</a>. <em>JAMA Pediatr</em>. 2021;175:698-705. </li><li>Christakis DA. <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2778780">More on epidurals and autism.</a> <em>JAMA Pediatric</em>s. 2021; 175: 705.</li><li>Mikkelsen AP, Greiber IK, Scheller NM, Lidegaard Ø. <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784508">Association of Labor Epidural Analgesia With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Children</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2021;326:1170–1177. </li><li>Hanley GE, Bickford C, Ip A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34581736/">Association of Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Delivery With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2021;326:1178-1185. </li><li>Hegvik TA, Klungsøyr K, Kuja-Halkola R, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35973476/">Labor epidural analgesia and subsequent risk of offspring autism spectrum disorder and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: a cross-national cohort study of 4.5 million individuals and their siblings</a>. <em>Am J Obstet Gynecol</em>. 2023;228:233.e1-233.e12. Epub 2022 Aug 13. Hu X, Wang B, Chen J, Han D, Wu J. </li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10790590/">Association Between Epidural Labor Analgesia and Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis</a>. J Pain Res;17:227-240. </li></ul><p><br>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:40) - Why autism is hard to study</li>
<li>(05:18) - The original 2020 study</li>
<li>(11:38) - Results &amp; hazard ratios</li>
<li>(15:24) - Confounding &amp; adjustment</li>
<li>(27:29) - Criticism &amp; plausibility </li>
<li>(35:08) - Replications begin</li>
<li>(45:57) - Converging evidence &amp; meta-analysis</li>
<li>(52:07) - What does it mean?</li>
<li>(54:57) - Guest &amp; wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Epidurals are widely used and widely trusted for pain relief during labor. So when a 2020 study reported that they might be linked to autism, it raised a troubling question: could a routine medical decision have long-term consequences? We follow that claim from headline to evidence—and watch what happens when other scientists take a closer look. We dig into the original study, a wave of replication studies from around the world, and a meta-analysis that tries to make sense of it all. Along the way, we unpack hazard ratios, Cox regression, inverse probability weighting, and sibling analyses—and why even sophisticated statistical adjustment can’t eliminate confounding. Plus: why bigger datasets don’t solve everything, what happens when results shrink after adjustment, and how a controversial study turned into a case study in science working as it should. Bonus: our first guest journalist interview!<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Cox regression</li><li>Hazard ratios</li><li>Inverse probability weighting (IPTW)</li><li>Multivariable adjustment</li><li>Observational studies</li><li>Residual confounding</li><li>Retrospective cohort studies</li><li>Sibling analysis</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Statistical significance vs practical significance</li><li>Survival analysis<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Every time you adjust the model and the effect gets smaller, that's the universe whispering, maybe don't build a causal story out of this.”</li><li>“Consistency across studies is gold.”</li><li>“There's more to the story than the statistics.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>Dattaro, Laura. <a href="https://www.thetransmitter.org/spectrum/a-questionable-study-linked-epidurals-to-autism-then-what/">A questionable study linked autism to epidurals. Then what?</a> <em>Spectrum. </em>April 18, 2023. </li><li>Dattaro, Laura. <a href="https://nautil.us/how-to-find-baby-sharks-852820">How to find baby sharks.</a><em> Nautilus</em>. September 9. 2024.</li><li><a href="https://www.lauradattaro.com/">Laura Dattaro’s home page</a>.</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7424924334152024064/">Phil Kearney’s blog post</a> about the SMART framework.</li><li>Qiu C, Lin JC, Shi JM, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7551212/">Association Between Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders in Offspring</a>.<em> JAMA Pediatr</em>. 2020;174:1168-1175. </li><li>Joint Statement. <a href="https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/newsroom/news-releases/2020/10/labor-epidurals-and-autism-joint-statement">Labor Epidurals Do Not Cause Autism; Safe for Mothers and Infants, say Anesthesiology, Obstetrics, and Pediatric Medical Societies</a>. American Society of Anesthesiologists. October 12, 2020.</li><li>Wall-Wieler E, Bateman BT, Hanlon-Dearman A, Roos LL, Butwick AJ. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8056314/">Association of Epidural Labor Analgesia With Offspring Risk of Autism Spectrum Disorders</a>. <em>JAMA Pediatr</em>. 2021;175:698-705. </li><li>Christakis DA. <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2778780">More on epidurals and autism.</a> <em>JAMA Pediatric</em>s. 2021; 175: 705.</li><li>Mikkelsen AP, Greiber IK, Scheller NM, Lidegaard Ø. <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784508">Association of Labor Epidural Analgesia With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Children</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2021;326:1170–1177. </li><li>Hanley GE, Bickford C, Ip A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34581736/">Association of Epidural Analgesia During Labor and Delivery With Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2021;326:1178-1185. </li><li>Hegvik TA, Klungsøyr K, Kuja-Halkola R, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35973476/">Labor epidural analgesia and subsequent risk of offspring autism spectrum disorder and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: a cross-national cohort study of 4.5 million individuals and their siblings</a>. <em>Am J Obstet Gynecol</em>. 2023;228:233.e1-233.e12. Epub 2022 Aug 13. Hu X, Wang B, Chen J, Han D, Wu J. </li><li><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10790590/">Association Between Epidural Labor Analgesia and Autism Spectrum Disorder in Offspring: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis</a>. J Pain Res;17:227-240. </li></ul><p><br>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(01:40) - Why autism is hard to study</li>
<li>(05:18) - The original 2020 study</li>
<li>(11:38) - Results &amp; hazard ratios</li>
<li>(15:24) - Confounding &amp; adjustment</li>
<li>(27:29) - Criticism &amp; plausibility </li>
<li>(35:08) - Replications begin</li>
<li>(45:57) - Converging evidence &amp; meta-analysis</li>
<li>(52:07) - What does it mean?</li>
<li>(54:57) - Guest &amp; wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Every year we spring forward and lose an hour of sleep. But do we also lose a few heart cells? Some headlines claim that heart attacks spike by 24% after daylight saving time begins. In this episode we trace that number back to the research behind it—and what we find is more complicated than the headlines suggest. We examine a famous New England Journal of Medicine letter, a large international meta-analysis, and a massive modern U.S. registry study. Along the way we talk about incidence ratios, relative versus absolute risk, negative controls, and a haunting concept called harvesting. Plus: why bar charts are not for numerical data, why journalists love dramatic numbers, and how a bug collector helped invent daylight saving time.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Incidence ratios / incidence rates</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Negative controls</li><li>Relative risk vs absolute risk</li><li>Statistical vs practical significance</li><li>Statistical Sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“A bump in time isn’t always a bump in total.” </li><li>“If you already know the story you want to tell, you can always find a number to tell it.”  </li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Bourke, India. “An obsessed insect hunter: The creepy-crawly origins of daylight saving.” <em>BBC Future</em>, March 31, 2024. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects</a></li><li>Fox-Skelly, Jasmin. “How Daylight Saving Time Affects Your Health.” <em>BBC Future</em>, October 25, 2025. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health</a></li><li>Hurst A, Morfeld P, Lewis P, Erren TC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38888468/">Daylight Saving Time Transitions and Risk of Heart Attack</a>. <em>Dtsch Arztebl Int</em>. 2024;121(15):490-496. doi:10.3238/arztebl.m2024.0078</li><li>Janszky I, Ljung R. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18971502/">Shifts to and from daylight saving time and incidence of myocardial infarction</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2008;359(18):1966-1968. doi:10.1056/NEJMc0807104</li><li>Jiddou MR, Pica M, Boura J, Qu L, Franklin BA.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23228926/"> Incidence of myocardial infarction with shifts to and from daylight savings time.</a> <em>Am J Cardiol</em>. 2013;111(5):631-635. doi:10.1016/j.amjcard.2012.11.010</li><li>Mellour, Richard. “The builder who changed how the world keeps time.” <em>BBC Future</em>, March 11, 2016. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time</a></li><li>Rymer JA, Li S, Chiswell K, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40924425/">Daylight Savings Time and Acute Myocardial Infarction. </a><em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2025;8(9):e2530442. Published 2025 Sep 2. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.30442</li><li><a href="https://graph2table.com/">https://graph2table.com/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:03) - Strange history of daylight saving time</li>
<li>(16:06) - Swedish NEJM study</li>
<li>(19:14) - Incidence ratios explained</li>
<li>(22:13) - What the Swedish study actually found</li>
<li>(31:11) - Absolute vs relative risk</li>
<li>(34:27) - Harvesting effect</li>
<li>(40:10) - 2024 Meta-analysis</li>
<li>(45:37) - Large modern US study</li>
<li>(55:23) - Where the “24% increase” came from</li>
<li>(59:16) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Every year we spring forward and lose an hour of sleep. But do we also lose a few heart cells? Some headlines claim that heart attacks spike by 24% after daylight saving time begins. In this episode we trace that number back to the research behind it—and what we find is more complicated than the headlines suggest. We examine a famous New England Journal of Medicine letter, a large international meta-analysis, and a massive modern U.S. registry study. Along the way we talk about incidence ratios, relative versus absolute risk, negative controls, and a haunting concept called harvesting. Plus: why bar charts are not for numerical data, why journalists love dramatic numbers, and how a bug collector helped invent daylight saving time.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Incidence ratios / incidence rates</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Negative controls</li><li>Relative risk vs absolute risk</li><li>Statistical vs practical significance</li><li>Statistical Sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“A bump in time isn’t always a bump in total.” </li><li>“If you already know the story you want to tell, you can always find a number to tell it.”  </li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Bourke, India. “An obsessed insect hunter: The creepy-crawly origins of daylight saving.” <em>BBC Future</em>, March 31, 2024. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects</a></li><li>Fox-Skelly, Jasmin. “How Daylight Saving Time Affects Your Health.” <em>BBC Future</em>, October 25, 2025. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health</a></li><li>Hurst A, Morfeld P, Lewis P, Erren TC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38888468/">Daylight Saving Time Transitions and Risk of Heart Attack</a>. <em>Dtsch Arztebl Int</em>. 2024;121(15):490-496. doi:10.3238/arztebl.m2024.0078</li><li>Janszky I, Ljung R. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18971502/">Shifts to and from daylight saving time and incidence of myocardial infarction</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2008;359(18):1966-1968. doi:10.1056/NEJMc0807104</li><li>Jiddou MR, Pica M, Boura J, Qu L, Franklin BA.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23228926/"> Incidence of myocardial infarction with shifts to and from daylight savings time.</a> <em>Am J Cardiol</em>. 2013;111(5):631-635. doi:10.1016/j.amjcard.2012.11.010</li><li>Mellour, Richard. “The builder who changed how the world keeps time.” <em>BBC Future</em>, March 11, 2016. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time</a></li><li>Rymer JA, Li S, Chiswell K, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40924425/">Daylight Savings Time and Acute Myocardial Infarction. </a><em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2025;8(9):e2530442. Published 2025 Sep 2. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.30442</li><li><a href="https://graph2table.com/">https://graph2table.com/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:03) - Strange history of daylight saving time</li>
<li>(16:06) - Swedish NEJM study</li>
<li>(19:14) - Incidence ratios explained</li>
<li>(22:13) - What the Swedish study actually found</li>
<li>(31:11) - Absolute vs relative risk</li>
<li>(34:27) - Harvesting effect</li>
<li>(40:10) - 2024 Meta-analysis</li>
<li>(45:37) - Large modern US study</li>
<li>(55:23) - Where the “24% increase” came from</li>
<li>(59:16) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Every year we spring forward and lose an hour of sleep. But do we also lose a few heart cells? Some headlines claim that heart attacks spike by 24% after daylight saving time begins. In this episode we trace that number back to the research behind it—and what we find is more complicated than the headlines suggest. We examine a famous New England Journal of Medicine letter, a large international meta-analysis, and a massive modern U.S. registry study. Along the way we talk about incidence ratios, relative versus absolute risk, negative controls, and a haunting concept called harvesting. Plus: why bar charts are not for numerical data, why journalists love dramatic numbers, and how a bug collector helped invent daylight saving time.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Incidence ratios / incidence rates</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Negative controls</li><li>Relative risk vs absolute risk</li><li>Statistical vs practical significance</li><li>Statistical Sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“A bump in time isn’t always a bump in total.” </li><li>“If you already know the story you want to tell, you can always find a number to tell it.”  </li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Bourke, India. “An obsessed insect hunter: The creepy-crawly origins of daylight saving.” <em>BBC Future</em>, March 31, 2024. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240308-how-first-suggestions-of-daylight-savings-time-was-inspired-by-insects</a></li><li>Fox-Skelly, Jasmin. “How Daylight Saving Time Affects Your Health.” <em>BBC Future</em>, October 25, 2025. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251024-how-daylight-saving-time-affects-our-health</a></li><li>Hurst A, Morfeld P, Lewis P, Erren TC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38888468/">Daylight Saving Time Transitions and Risk of Heart Attack</a>. <em>Dtsch Arztebl Int</em>. 2024;121(15):490-496. doi:10.3238/arztebl.m2024.0078</li><li>Janszky I, Ljung R. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18971502/">Shifts to and from daylight saving time and incidence of myocardial infarction</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2008;359(18):1966-1968. doi:10.1056/NEJMc0807104</li><li>Jiddou MR, Pica M, Boura J, Qu L, Franklin BA.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23228926/"> Incidence of myocardial infarction with shifts to and from daylight savings time.</a> <em>Am J Cardiol</em>. 2013;111(5):631-635. doi:10.1016/j.amjcard.2012.11.010</li><li>Mellour, Richard. “The builder who changed how the world keeps time.” <em>BBC Future</em>, March 11, 2016. <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time">https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160310-the-builder-who-changed-how-the-world-keeps-time</a></li><li>Rymer JA, Li S, Chiswell K, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40924425/">Daylight Savings Time and Acute Myocardial Infarction. </a><em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2025;8(9):e2530442. Published 2025 Sep 2. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2025.30442</li><li><a href="https://graph2table.com/">https://graph2table.com/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:03) - Strange history of daylight saving time</li>
<li>(16:06) - Swedish NEJM study</li>
<li>(19:14) - Incidence ratios explained</li>
<li>(22:13) - What the Swedish study actually found</li>
<li>(31:11) - Absolute vs relative risk</li>
<li>(34:27) - Harvesting effect</li>
<li>(40:10) - 2024 Meta-analysis</li>
<li>(45:37) - Large modern US study</li>
<li>(55:23) - Where the “24% increase” came from</li>
<li>(59:16) - Wrap-up</li>
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      <title>Marathon Performance: Does high-carb fueling work?</title>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Marathon Performance: Does high-carb fueling work?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How many carbs do you need to run your best marathon? Recent headlines suggest that 120 grams per hour is the magic number. But what’s the science behind that claim? To find out, we dug into the study fueling the hype — and were surprised by what we found. In this episode, we uncover numbers that mysteriously shift after peer review, figures that don’t match the text, and p-values that refuse to line up with their confidence intervals. Along the way, we swap bonking stories, revisit repeated-measures ANOVA, renew our antipathy for spreadsheets, and follow a trail of statistical termites to a surprisingly happy scientific ending.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Article in press vs final publication</li><li>Data management and workflow</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>P-values and confidence intervals</li><li>Repeated Measures ANOVA</li><li>Statistical sleuthing</li><li>Version control in research</li><li>Within-person study design<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Everyone makes statistical mistakes, not everyone fixes them.”</li><li>“If the numbers aren't consistent, Excel is often part of the story.”</li><li>“If a p-value doesn't survive the trip from text to figure, there's a problem.”</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/marathon-fueling-notes/"><strong>Statistical Sleuthing Extended Notes</strong></a></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Ravikanti S, Silang KG, Martyn HJ, et al. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00665.2025">13C-labelled glucose–fructose show greater exogenous and whole-body CHO oxidation and lower O2 cost of running at 120 versus 60 and 90 g·h−1 in elite male marathoners</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol.</em> 2025;139:1581–95. (final version)</li><li><a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/prev/20251203-aop/abs/10.1152/japplphysiol.00665.2025">Article in Press</a> of <em>J Appl Physiol.</em> 2025;139:1581–95. </li><li><a href="https://graph2table.com/">graph2table</a> AI data extraction from figures. Use the discount code normalcurves20 for 20% off!</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUNQ_wo7lE&amp;t=61s">Bob Kempainen gutting out the win at the 1996 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachariaspapadakisphd_academicchatter-peerreview-researchintegrity-activity-7398819608838971392-095G/">N=7 is a Dinner Party LinkedIn Post</a></li><li><a href="https://automeris.io/">WebPlotDigitizer</a></li><li>Holmer B. <a href="https://marathonhandbook.com/elite-marathoners-can-burn-more-carb-at-120-grams-per-hour/">The new high-carb study that’s rocking the running world</a>. <em>Marathon Handbook</em>. Dec 5, 2025.</li><li>Ivy JL, Miller W, Dover V, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1983/15060/Endurance_improved_by_ingestion_of_a_glucose.5.aspx">Endurance improved by ingestion of a glucose polymer supplement</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1983; 15:466–471.</li><li>Coyle EF, Coggan AR, Hemmert MK, et al. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1986.61.1.165">Muscle glycogen utilization during prolonged strenuous exercise when fed carbohydrate</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 1986; 61:165–172.</li><li>Coggan AR, Coyle EF. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1987.63.6.2388">Reversal of fatigue during prolonged exercise by carbohydrate infusion or ingestion</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 1987; 63:2388–2395.</li><li>Below PR, Mora-Rodríguez R, González-Alonso J, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/abstract/1995/02000/fluid_and_carbohydrate_ingestion_independently.9.aspx">Fluid and carbohydrate ingestion independently improve performance during 1 h of intense exercise</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1995; 27:200–210.</li><li>American College of Sports Medicine. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9303999/">Position stand: Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1996.</li><li>Jeukendrup AE, Jentjens R. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-200029060-00004">Oxidation of carbohydrate feedings during prolonged exercise: current thoughts, guidelines and directions for future research</a>. <em>Sports Med</em>. 2000; 29:407–424.</li><li>Currell K, Jeukendrup AE. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2008/02000/superior_endurance_performance_with_ingestion_of.12.aspx">Superior endurance performance with ingestion of multiple transportable carbohydrates</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2008; 40:275–281.</li><li>American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, American College of Sports Medicine, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2009/03000/Nutrition_and_Athletic_Performance.25.aspx">Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2009; 41:709–731.</li><li>Triplett D, Doyle JA, Rupp JC, et al. <a href="https://journals.humankinetics.com/doi/10.1123/ijsnem.20.2.122">An isocaloric glucose–fructose beverage's effect on simulated 100-km cycling performance compared with a glucose-only beverage</a><em>. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab</em>. 2010; 20:122–131.</li><li>Stellingwerff T, Cox GR. <a href="https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/10.1139/apnm-2014-0027">Systematic review: carbohydrate supplementation on exercise performance or capacity of varying durations</a>. <em>Appl Physiol Nutr Metab</em>. 2014; 39:998–1011.</li><li>Thomas DT, Erdman KA, Burke LM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26891166/">Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine: Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2016.</li><li>King AJ, O’Hara JP, Morrison DJ, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789655/">Carbohydrate dose influences liver and muscle glycogen oxidation and performance during prolonged exercise</a><em>. Physiol Rep</em>. 2018; 6:e13555.</li><li>Urdampilleta A, Mielgo-Ayuso J, Martínez-Sanz JM, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7400827/">Effects of 120 vs 90 g·h⁻¹ carbohydrate intake during a mountain marathon on neuromuscular function and high-intensity run capacity recovery</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020; 12:2099.</li><li>Podlogar T, Bescós R, Wallis GA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9560939/">Increased exogenous but unaltered endogenous carbohydrate oxidation with 120 vs 90 g·h⁻¹ carbohydrate ingestion during prolonged endurance exercise</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022; 9:936691.</li><li>Smith JW, Pascoe DD, Passe DH, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2013/02000/curvilinear_dose_response_relationship_of.17.aspx">Curvilinear dose-response relationship of carbohydrate (0–120 g·h⁻¹) and performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2013; 45:336–341.</li><li>Lukasiewicz C, Vandiver KJ, Albert ED, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38059288/">Assessing exogenous carbohydrate intake needed to optimize human endurance performance across sex: insights from modeling runners pursuing a sub-2-hour marathon</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 2024.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p>...]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How many carbs do you need to run your best marathon? Recent headlines suggest that 120 grams per hour is the magic number. But what’s the science behind that claim? To find out, we dug into the study fueling the hype — and were surprised by what we found. In this episode, we uncover numbers that mysteriously shift after peer review, figures that don’t match the text, and p-values that refuse to line up with their confidence intervals. Along the way, we swap bonking stories, revisit repeated-measures ANOVA, renew our antipathy for spreadsheets, and follow a trail of statistical termites to a surprisingly happy scientific ending.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Article in press vs final publication</li><li>Data management and workflow</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>P-values and confidence intervals</li><li>Repeated Measures ANOVA</li><li>Statistical sleuthing</li><li>Version control in research</li><li>Within-person study design<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Everyone makes statistical mistakes, not everyone fixes them.”</li><li>“If the numbers aren't consistent, Excel is often part of the story.”</li><li>“If a p-value doesn't survive the trip from text to figure, there's a problem.”</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/marathon-fueling-notes/"><strong>Statistical Sleuthing Extended Notes</strong></a></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Ravikanti S, Silang KG, Martyn HJ, et al. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00665.2025">13C-labelled glucose–fructose show greater exogenous and whole-body CHO oxidation and lower O2 cost of running at 120 versus 60 and 90 g·h−1 in elite male marathoners</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol.</em> 2025;139:1581–95. (final version)</li><li><a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/prev/20251203-aop/abs/10.1152/japplphysiol.00665.2025">Article in Press</a> of <em>J Appl Physiol.</em> 2025;139:1581–95. </li><li><a href="https://graph2table.com/">graph2table</a> AI data extraction from figures. Use the discount code normalcurves20 for 20% off!</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUNQ_wo7lE&amp;t=61s">Bob Kempainen gutting out the win at the 1996 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachariaspapadakisphd_academicchatter-peerreview-researchintegrity-activity-7398819608838971392-095G/">N=7 is a Dinner Party LinkedIn Post</a></li><li><a href="https://automeris.io/">WebPlotDigitizer</a></li><li>Holmer B. <a href="https://marathonhandbook.com/elite-marathoners-can-burn-more-carb-at-120-grams-per-hour/">The new high-carb study that’s rocking the running world</a>. <em>Marathon Handbook</em>. Dec 5, 2025.</li><li>Ivy JL, Miller W, Dover V, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1983/15060/Endurance_improved_by_ingestion_of_a_glucose.5.aspx">Endurance improved by ingestion of a glucose polymer supplement</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1983; 15:466–471.</li><li>Coyle EF, Coggan AR, Hemmert MK, et al. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1986.61.1.165">Muscle glycogen utilization during prolonged strenuous exercise when fed carbohydrate</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 1986; 61:165–172.</li><li>Coggan AR, Coyle EF. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1987.63.6.2388">Reversal of fatigue during prolonged exercise by carbohydrate infusion or ingestion</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 1987; 63:2388–2395.</li><li>Below PR, Mora-Rodríguez R, González-Alonso J, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/abstract/1995/02000/fluid_and_carbohydrate_ingestion_independently.9.aspx">Fluid and carbohydrate ingestion independently improve performance during 1 h of intense exercise</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1995; 27:200–210.</li><li>American College of Sports Medicine. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9303999/">Position stand: Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1996.</li><li>Jeukendrup AE, Jentjens R. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-200029060-00004">Oxidation of carbohydrate feedings during prolonged exercise: current thoughts, guidelines and directions for future research</a>. <em>Sports Med</em>. 2000; 29:407–424.</li><li>Currell K, Jeukendrup AE. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2008/02000/superior_endurance_performance_with_ingestion_of.12.aspx">Superior endurance performance with ingestion of multiple transportable carbohydrates</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2008; 40:275–281.</li><li>American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, American College of Sports Medicine, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2009/03000/Nutrition_and_Athletic_Performance.25.aspx">Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2009; 41:709–731.</li><li>Triplett D, Doyle JA, Rupp JC, et al. <a href="https://journals.humankinetics.com/doi/10.1123/ijsnem.20.2.122">An isocaloric glucose–fructose beverage's effect on simulated 100-km cycling performance compared with a glucose-only beverage</a><em>. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab</em>. 2010; 20:122–131.</li><li>Stellingwerff T, Cox GR. <a href="https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/10.1139/apnm-2014-0027">Systematic review: carbohydrate supplementation on exercise performance or capacity of varying durations</a>. <em>Appl Physiol Nutr Metab</em>. 2014; 39:998–1011.</li><li>Thomas DT, Erdman KA, Burke LM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26891166/">Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine: Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2016.</li><li>King AJ, O’Hara JP, Morrison DJ, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789655/">Carbohydrate dose influences liver and muscle glycogen oxidation and performance during prolonged exercise</a><em>. Physiol Rep</em>. 2018; 6:e13555.</li><li>Urdampilleta A, Mielgo-Ayuso J, Martínez-Sanz JM, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7400827/">Effects of 120 vs 90 g·h⁻¹ carbohydrate intake during a mountain marathon on neuromuscular function and high-intensity run capacity recovery</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020; 12:2099.</li><li>Podlogar T, Bescós R, Wallis GA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9560939/">Increased exogenous but unaltered endogenous carbohydrate oxidation with 120 vs 90 g·h⁻¹ carbohydrate ingestion during prolonged endurance exercise</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022; 9:936691.</li><li>Smith JW, Pascoe DD, Passe DH, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2013/02000/curvilinear_dose_response_relationship_of.17.aspx">Curvilinear dose-response relationship of carbohydrate (0–120 g·h⁻¹) and performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2013; 45:336–341.</li><li>Lukasiewicz C, Vandiver KJ, Albert ED, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38059288/">Assessing exogenous carbohydrate intake needed to optimize human endurance performance across sex: insights from modeling runners pursuing a sub-2-hour marathon</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 2024.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p>...]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How many carbs do you need to run your best marathon? Recent headlines suggest that 120 grams per hour is the magic number. But what’s the science behind that claim? To find out, we dug into the study fueling the hype — and were surprised by what we found. In this episode, we uncover numbers that mysteriously shift after peer review, figures that don’t match the text, and p-values that refuse to line up with their confidence intervals. Along the way, we swap bonking stories, revisit repeated-measures ANOVA, renew our antipathy for spreadsheets, and follow a trail of statistical termites to a surprisingly happy scientific ending.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Article in press vs final publication</li><li>Data management and workflow</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>P-values and confidence intervals</li><li>Repeated Measures ANOVA</li><li>Statistical sleuthing</li><li>Version control in research</li><li>Within-person study design<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Everyone makes statistical mistakes, not everyone fixes them.”</li><li>“If the numbers aren't consistent, Excel is often part of the story.”</li><li>“If a p-value doesn't survive the trip from text to figure, there's a problem.”</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/marathon-fueling-notes/"><strong>Statistical Sleuthing Extended Notes</strong></a></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Ravikanti S, Silang KG, Martyn HJ, et al. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00665.2025">13C-labelled glucose–fructose show greater exogenous and whole-body CHO oxidation and lower O2 cost of running at 120 versus 60 and 90 g·h−1 in elite male marathoners</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol.</em> 2025;139:1581–95. (final version)</li><li><a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/prev/20251203-aop/abs/10.1152/japplphysiol.00665.2025">Article in Press</a> of <em>J Appl Physiol.</em> 2025;139:1581–95. </li><li><a href="https://graph2table.com/">graph2table</a> AI data extraction from figures. Use the discount code normalcurves20 for 20% off!</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnUNQ_wo7lE&amp;t=61s">Bob Kempainen gutting out the win at the 1996 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials.</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/zachariaspapadakisphd_academicchatter-peerreview-researchintegrity-activity-7398819608838971392-095G/">N=7 is a Dinner Party LinkedIn Post</a></li><li><a href="https://automeris.io/">WebPlotDigitizer</a></li><li>Holmer B. <a href="https://marathonhandbook.com/elite-marathoners-can-burn-more-carb-at-120-grams-per-hour/">The new high-carb study that’s rocking the running world</a>. <em>Marathon Handbook</em>. Dec 5, 2025.</li><li>Ivy JL, Miller W, Dover V, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1983/15060/Endurance_improved_by_ingestion_of_a_glucose.5.aspx">Endurance improved by ingestion of a glucose polymer supplement</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1983; 15:466–471.</li><li>Coyle EF, Coggan AR, Hemmert MK, et al. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1986.61.1.165">Muscle glycogen utilization during prolonged strenuous exercise when fed carbohydrate</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 1986; 61:165–172.</li><li>Coggan AR, Coyle EF. <a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1987.63.6.2388">Reversal of fatigue during prolonged exercise by carbohydrate infusion or ingestion</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 1987; 63:2388–2395.</li><li>Below PR, Mora-Rodríguez R, González-Alonso J, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/abstract/1995/02000/fluid_and_carbohydrate_ingestion_independently.9.aspx">Fluid and carbohydrate ingestion independently improve performance during 1 h of intense exercise</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1995; 27:200–210.</li><li>American College of Sports Medicine. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9303999/">Position stand: Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 1996.</li><li>Jeukendrup AE, Jentjens R. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.2165/00007256-200029060-00004">Oxidation of carbohydrate feedings during prolonged exercise: current thoughts, guidelines and directions for future research</a>. <em>Sports Med</em>. 2000; 29:407–424.</li><li>Currell K, Jeukendrup AE. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2008/02000/superior_endurance_performance_with_ingestion_of.12.aspx">Superior endurance performance with ingestion of multiple transportable carbohydrates</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2008; 40:275–281.</li><li>American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, American College of Sports Medicine, et al. <a href="https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/fulltext/2009/03000/Nutrition_and_Athletic_Performance.25.aspx">Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2009; 41:709–731.</li><li>Triplett D, Doyle JA, Rupp JC, et al. <a href="https://journals.humankinetics.com/doi/10.1123/ijsnem.20.2.122">An isocaloric glucose–fructose beverage's effect on simulated 100-km cycling performance compared with a glucose-only beverage</a><em>. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab</em>. 2010; 20:122–131.</li><li>Stellingwerff T, Cox GR. <a href="https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/10.1139/apnm-2014-0027">Systematic review: carbohydrate supplementation on exercise performance or capacity of varying durations</a>. <em>Appl Physiol Nutr Metab</em>. 2014; 39:998–1011.</li><li>Thomas DT, Erdman KA, Burke LM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26891166/">Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine: Nutrition and athletic performance</a>. <em>Med Sci Sports Exerc</em>. 2016.</li><li>King AJ, O’Hara JP, Morrison DJ, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5789655/">Carbohydrate dose influences liver and muscle glycogen oxidation and performance during prolonged exercise</a><em>. 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        <![CDATA[<p>Can a list of questions really make two strangers fall in love? In 2015, a viral <em>New York Times</em> Modern Love column claimed psychologists had discovered a formula for love: 36 increasingly personal questions, plus four minutes of eye contact. Millions of people tried it. There was even an app. But when we followed the citation trail back to the science, the story started to unravel. In this episode, we crack open the 1997 study behind the “36 Questions,” unearth a forgotten pilot study with a different (and sexier) protocol, and track down the real origin of the eye-gazing task. Along the way, we break down why control groups matter, why scale midpoints mislead, and why group averages aren’t people. We also try the questions on each other—purely for science, of course—and ask the nerdiest Valentine’s Day question of all: can a list of questions really make anyone fall in love?</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Control groups</li><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Group averages vs individual inference</li><li>Pilot studies</li><li>Reference distributions</li><li>Scale interpretation</li><li>Units of observation</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Before you repeat a scientific claim, follow it back to the original study and read it carefully.”</li><li>“You can slice the data into subgroups all you want, but that doesn't magically give you a control group. It gives you meaningless results.”</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/"><strong>Our version of the “40 Questions” app!</strong></a></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Aron, A., Aron, E.N., Melinat, E. and Vallone, R., 1991. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167297234003">Experimentally induced closeness, ego identity, and the opportunity to say no.</a> In <em>Conference of the International Network on Personal Relationships, Normal, IL</em>.</li><li>Aron, A., Melinat, E., Aron, E.N., Vallone, R.D. and Bator, R.J., 1997. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167297234003">The experimental generation of interpersonal closeness: A procedure and some preliminary findings.</a> <em>Personality and social psychology bulletin</em>, <em>23</em>(4), pp.363-377.</li><li>Catron, Mandy L. To fall in love with anyone, do this. <em>New York Times</em>. January 11, 2015. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html</a></li><li>Catron, M.L., 2017. <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Fall-in-Love-with-Anyone/Mandy-Len-Catron/9781501137457"><em>How to fall in love with anyone: a memoir in essays</em>. </a>Simon and Schuster.</li><li>Jones, Daniel. The 36 Questions That Lead to Love. <em>New York Times</em>. January 9, 2015. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html</a></li><li>Kashdan, T.B. and Wenzel, A., 2005. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005789405801157">A transactional approach to social anxiety and the genesis of interpersonal closeness: Self, partner, and social context.</a> <em>Behavior Therapy</em>, <em>36</em>(4), pp.335-346.</li><li>Lee, Anna G. Long After ‘36 Questions,’ Finally Asking a Bigger One. <em>New York Times</em>. May 16, 2025. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html</a></li><li>Sprecher, S., 2021. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0265407521996055">Closeness and other affiliative outcomes generated from the Fast Friends procedure: A comparison with a small-talk task and unstructured self-disclosure and the moderating role of mode of communication.</a> <em>Journal of Social and Personal Relationships</em>, <em>38</em>(5), pp.1452-1471.</li><li>Vacharkulksemsuk T, Fredrickson BL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22389521/">Strangers in sync: Achieving embodied rapport through shared movements</a>. <em>J Exp Soc Psychol</em>. 2012;48(1):399-402. doi:10.1016/j.jesp.2011.07.015</li><li>Mandy Len Catron’s TEDx talk: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Yo-PXN7UA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Yo-PXN7UA</a></li><li>Ivan Vendrov’s Twitter/X post about his exchange with Arthur Aron: <a href="https://x.com/IvanVendrov/status/1611809736823013377/photo/1">https://x.com/IvanVendrov/status/1611809736823013377/photo/1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/love-and-the-brain-part-1-the-36-questions-revisited/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/love-and-the-brain-part-1-the-36-questions-revisited/</a></li><li>Our version of the “40 Questions” app: <a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/">https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:42) - Viral NYT Modern Love essay’s cultural influence</li>
<li>(09:32) - Science behind the 36 questions</li>
<li>(15:07) - The 1997 paper myth busting</li>
<li>(19:49) - Sleuthing the pilot study</li>
<li>(30:41) - What did the 1997 paper actually show</li>
<li>(42:21) - Discussion section</li>
<li>(51:55) - Did it replicate</li>
<li>(58:44) - Wrap up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can a list of questions really make two strangers fall in love? In 2015, a viral <em>New York Times</em> Modern Love column claimed psychologists had discovered a formula for love: 36 increasingly personal questions, plus four minutes of eye contact. Millions of people tried it. There was even an app. But when we followed the citation trail back to the science, the story started to unravel. In this episode, we crack open the 1997 study behind the “36 Questions,” unearth a forgotten pilot study with a different (and sexier) protocol, and track down the real origin of the eye-gazing task. Along the way, we break down why control groups matter, why scale midpoints mislead, and why group averages aren’t people. We also try the questions on each other—purely for science, of course—and ask the nerdiest Valentine’s Day question of all: can a list of questions really make anyone fall in love?</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Control groups</li><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Group averages vs individual inference</li><li>Pilot studies</li><li>Reference distributions</li><li>Scale interpretation</li><li>Units of observation</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Before you repeat a scientific claim, follow it back to the original study and read it carefully.”</li><li>“You can slice the data into subgroups all you want, but that doesn't magically give you a control group. It gives you meaningless results.”</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/"><strong>Our version of the “40 Questions” app!</strong></a></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Aron, A., Aron, E.N., Melinat, E. and Vallone, R., 1991. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167297234003">Experimentally induced closeness, ego identity, and the opportunity to say no.</a> In <em>Conference of the International Network on Personal Relationships, Normal, IL</em>.</li><li>Aron, A., Melinat, E., Aron, E.N., Vallone, R.D. and Bator, R.J., 1997. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167297234003">The experimental generation of interpersonal closeness: A procedure and some preliminary findings.</a> <em>Personality and social psychology bulletin</em>, <em>23</em>(4), pp.363-377.</li><li>Catron, Mandy L. To fall in love with anyone, do this. <em>New York Times</em>. January 11, 2015. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html</a></li><li>Catron, M.L., 2017. <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Fall-in-Love-with-Anyone/Mandy-Len-Catron/9781501137457"><em>How to fall in love with anyone: a memoir in essays</em>. </a>Simon and Schuster.</li><li>Jones, Daniel. The 36 Questions That Lead to Love. <em>New York Times</em>. January 9, 2015. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html</a></li><li>Kashdan, T.B. and Wenzel, A., 2005. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005789405801157">A transactional approach to social anxiety and the genesis of interpersonal closeness: Self, partner, and social context.</a> <em>Behavior Therapy</em>, <em>36</em>(4), pp.335-346.</li><li>Lee, Anna G. Long After ‘36 Questions,’ Finally Asking a Bigger One. <em>New York Times</em>. May 16, 2025. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html</a></li><li>Sprecher, S., 2021. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0265407521996055">Closeness and other affiliative outcomes generated from the Fast Friends procedure: A comparison with a small-talk task and unstructured self-disclosure and the moderating role of mode of communication.</a> <em>Journal of Social and Personal Relationships</em>, <em>38</em>(5), pp.1452-1471.</li><li>Vacharkulksemsuk T, Fredrickson BL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22389521/">Strangers in sync: Achieving embodied rapport through shared movements</a>. <em>J Exp Soc Psychol</em>. 2012;48(1):399-402. doi:10.1016/j.jesp.2011.07.015</li><li>Mandy Len Catron’s TEDx talk: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Yo-PXN7UA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Yo-PXN7UA</a></li><li>Ivan Vendrov’s Twitter/X post about his exchange with Arthur Aron: <a href="https://x.com/IvanVendrov/status/1611809736823013377/photo/1">https://x.com/IvanVendrov/status/1611809736823013377/photo/1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/love-and-the-brain-part-1-the-36-questions-revisited/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/love-and-the-brain-part-1-the-36-questions-revisited/</a></li><li>Our version of the “40 Questions” app: <a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/">https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:42) - Viral NYT Modern Love essay’s cultural influence</li>
<li>(09:32) - Science behind the 36 questions</li>
<li>(15:07) - The 1997 paper myth busting</li>
<li>(19:49) - Sleuthing the pilot study</li>
<li>(30:41) - What did the 1997 paper actually show</li>
<li>(42:21) - Discussion section</li>
<li>(51:55) - Did it replicate</li>
<li>(58:44) - Wrap up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can a list of questions really make two strangers fall in love? In 2015, a viral <em>New York Times</em> Modern Love column claimed psychologists had discovered a formula for love: 36 increasingly personal questions, plus four minutes of eye contact. Millions of people tried it. There was even an app. But when we followed the citation trail back to the science, the story started to unravel. In this episode, we crack open the 1997 study behind the “36 Questions,” unearth a forgotten pilot study with a different (and sexier) protocol, and track down the real origin of the eye-gazing task. Along the way, we break down why control groups matter, why scale midpoints mislead, and why group averages aren’t people. We also try the questions on each other—purely for science, of course—and ask the nerdiest Valentine’s Day question of all: can a list of questions really make anyone fall in love?</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Control groups</li><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Group averages vs individual inference</li><li>Pilot studies</li><li>Reference distributions</li><li>Scale interpretation</li><li>Units of observation</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Before you repeat a scientific claim, follow it back to the original study and read it carefully.”</li><li>“You can slice the data into subgroups all you want, but that doesn't magically give you a control group. It gives you meaningless results.”</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/"><strong>Our version of the “40 Questions” app!</strong></a></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Aron, A., Aron, E.N., Melinat, E. and Vallone, R., 1991. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167297234003">Experimentally induced closeness, ego identity, and the opportunity to say no.</a> In <em>Conference of the International Network on Personal Relationships, Normal, IL</em>.</li><li>Aron, A., Melinat, E., Aron, E.N., Vallone, R.D. and Bator, R.J., 1997. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167297234003">The experimental generation of interpersonal closeness: A procedure and some preliminary findings.</a> <em>Personality and social psychology bulletin</em>, <em>23</em>(4), pp.363-377.</li><li>Catron, Mandy L. To fall in love with anyone, do this. <em>New York Times</em>. January 11, 2015. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html</a></li><li>Catron, M.L., 2017. <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Fall-in-Love-with-Anyone/Mandy-Len-Catron/9781501137457"><em>How to fall in love with anyone: a memoir in essays</em>. </a>Simon and Schuster.</li><li>Jones, Daniel. The 36 Questions That Lead to Love. <em>New York Times</em>. January 9, 2015. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html</a></li><li>Kashdan, T.B. and Wenzel, A., 2005. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0005789405801157">A transactional approach to social anxiety and the genesis of interpersonal closeness: Self, partner, and social context.</a> <em>Behavior Therapy</em>, <em>36</em>(4), pp.335-346.</li><li>Lee, Anna G. Long After ‘36 Questions,’ Finally Asking a Bigger One. <em>New York Times</em>. May 16, 2025. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html</a></li><li>Sprecher, S., 2021. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0265407521996055">Closeness and other affiliative outcomes generated from the Fast Friends procedure: A comparison with a small-talk task and unstructured self-disclosure and the moderating role of mode of communication.</a> <em>Journal of Social and Personal Relationships</em>, <em>38</em>(5), pp.1452-1471.</li><li>Vacharkulksemsuk T, Fredrickson BL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22389521/">Strangers in sync: Achieving embodied rapport through shared movements</a>. <em>J Exp Soc Psychol</em>. 2012;48(1):399-402. doi:10.1016/j.jesp.2011.07.015</li><li>Mandy Len Catron’s TEDx talk: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Yo-PXN7UA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Yo-PXN7UA</a></li><li>Ivan Vendrov’s Twitter/X post about his exchange with Arthur Aron: <a href="https://x.com/IvanVendrov/status/1611809736823013377/photo/1">https://x.com/IvanVendrov/status/1611809736823013377/photo/1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/love-and-the-brain-part-1-the-36-questions-revisited/">https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/love-and-the-brain-part-1-the-36-questions-revisited/</a></li><li>Our version of the “40 Questions” app: <a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/">https://www.normalcurves.com/questions-to-fall-in-love/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:42) - Viral NYT Modern Love essay’s cultural influence</li>
<li>(09:32) - Science behind the 36 questions</li>
<li>(15:07) - The 1997 paper myth busting</li>
<li>(19:49) - Sleuthing the pilot study</li>
<li>(30:41) - What did the 1997 paper actually show</li>
<li>(42:21) - Discussion section</li>
<li>(51:55) - Did it replicate</li>
<li>(58:44) - Wrap up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our debut episode on pheromones and sexy sweat, with some added commentary up front..</p><p><br></p><p>Sweaty t-shirt dating parties, sex pheromone dating sites, choosing your dating partner by sniffing them up — wacko fringe fads or evidence-based mating strategies? And what does your armpit stain have to do with your kids’ immune systems, or hormonal contraceptive pills, or divorce rates? </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we reach back into the 1990s and revisit the scientific paper that started it all: The Sweaty T-Shirt Study. They bring a sharp eye and open mind, critically examining the study and following the line of research to today. Along the way, they encounter interesting statistical topics – including correlated observations, within-person study design, and bar chart blasphemy – with a short, surprising detour into Neanderthal sex. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Bar charts </li><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Cherry-picking</li><li>Data and methodological transparency</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Post-hoc analyses</li><li>Unit of observation / unit of anaysis</li><li>Within-person study design</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“Repeat after me: Bar charts are not for numerical data.”</em></p><p><em>“Those who ignore dependencies in their data are destined for flawed conclusions.”</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/l08DM">Ah, Love at first whiff</a>. <em>Los Angeles Times</em>. May 19, 2008.</li><li>Papamarko, S. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Pheromone parties attempt to match singles by scent</a>. <em>Yahoo!life</em>. April 12, 2012.</li><li>Sainani, K. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Stone Age Gene Swap</a>. <em>Stanford Magazine</em>. November/December 2011.</li><li>Aldhous, P. <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619763-100-darling-you-smell-wonderfully-different/">Darling, You Smell Wonderfully Different</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>. 6 May 1995.</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T, Bettens F, Paepke AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7630893/">MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci</em>. 1995; 260(1359):245-249. doi:10.1098/rspb.1995.0087</li><li>Hedrick P, Loeschcke V. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/0169534796802370">MHC and mate selection in humans?</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol. </em>1996;11(1):24. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)80237-0</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0169534796810615">Reply from C. Wedekind and T. Seebeck</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol.</em> 1996;11(1):24-25. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)81061-5</li><li>Wedekind C, Füri S. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9364787/">Body odour preferences in men and women: do they aim for specific MHC combinations or simply heterozygosity?</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci. </em>1997;264(1387):1471-1479. doi:10.1098/rspb.1997.0204</li><li>Havlíček J, Winternitz J, Roberts SC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32306884/">Major histocompatibility complex-associated odour preferences and human mate choice: near and far horizons</a>.<em> Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci</em>. 2020;375(1800):20190260. doi:10.1098/rstb.2019.0260</li></ul><p> </p><p><br>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(06:09) - Conclusion</li>
<li>(06:16) - Breaking Down the Original Sweaty T-Shirt Study</li>
<li>(06:16) - Study Design Flaws and Data Transparency Issues</li>
<li>(06:17) - Media Reactions and the Study’s Public Impact</li>
<li>(06:26) - The Pill's Influence on Scent Preferences</li>
<li>(06:30) - Analyzing the Study's Questionable Results</li>
<li>(06:30) - Other Studies and their results</li>
<li>(06:34) - Overstated Conclusions and Wandering Discussions</li>
<li>(06:35) - Pheromone Dating Parties</li>
<li>(06:39) - Statistical Flaws: Correlated Observations Explained</li>
<li>(06:55) - The Science of HLA Genes and Mate Selection</li>
<li>(07:05) - Pheromone Dating Sites and Genetic Matching</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our debut episode on pheromones and sexy sweat, with some added commentary up front..</p><p><br></p><p>Sweaty t-shirt dating parties, sex pheromone dating sites, choosing your dating partner by sniffing them up — wacko fringe fads or evidence-based mating strategies? And what does your armpit stain have to do with your kids’ immune systems, or hormonal contraceptive pills, or divorce rates? </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we reach back into the 1990s and revisit the scientific paper that started it all: The Sweaty T-Shirt Study. They bring a sharp eye and open mind, critically examining the study and following the line of research to today. Along the way, they encounter interesting statistical topics – including correlated observations, within-person study design, and bar chart blasphemy – with a short, surprising detour into Neanderthal sex. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Bar charts </li><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Cherry-picking</li><li>Data and methodological transparency</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Post-hoc analyses</li><li>Unit of observation / unit of anaysis</li><li>Within-person study design</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“Repeat after me: Bar charts are not for numerical data.”</em></p><p><em>“Those who ignore dependencies in their data are destined for flawed conclusions.”</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/l08DM">Ah, Love at first whiff</a>. <em>Los Angeles Times</em>. May 19, 2008.</li><li>Papamarko, S. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Pheromone parties attempt to match singles by scent</a>. <em>Yahoo!life</em>. April 12, 2012.</li><li>Sainani, K. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Stone Age Gene Swap</a>. <em>Stanford Magazine</em>. November/December 2011.</li><li>Aldhous, P. <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619763-100-darling-you-smell-wonderfully-different/">Darling, You Smell Wonderfully Different</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>. 6 May 1995.</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T, Bettens F, Paepke AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7630893/">MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci</em>. 1995; 260(1359):245-249. doi:10.1098/rspb.1995.0087</li><li>Hedrick P, Loeschcke V. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/0169534796802370">MHC and mate selection in humans?</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol. </em>1996;11(1):24. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)80237-0</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0169534796810615">Reply from C. Wedekind and T. Seebeck</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol.</em> 1996;11(1):24-25. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)81061-5</li><li>Wedekind C, Füri S. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9364787/">Body odour preferences in men and women: do they aim for specific MHC combinations or simply heterozygosity?</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci. </em>1997;264(1387):1471-1479. doi:10.1098/rspb.1997.0204</li><li>Havlíček J, Winternitz J, Roberts SC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32306884/">Major histocompatibility complex-associated odour preferences and human mate choice: near and far horizons</a>.<em> Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci</em>. 2020;375(1800):20190260. doi:10.1098/rstb.2019.0260</li></ul><p> </p><p><br>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(06:09) - Conclusion</li>
<li>(06:16) - Breaking Down the Original Sweaty T-Shirt Study</li>
<li>(06:16) - Study Design Flaws and Data Transparency Issues</li>
<li>(06:17) - Media Reactions and the Study’s Public Impact</li>
<li>(06:26) - The Pill's Influence on Scent Preferences</li>
<li>(06:30) - Analyzing the Study's Questionable Results</li>
<li>(06:30) - Other Studies and their results</li>
<li>(06:34) - Overstated Conclusions and Wandering Discussions</li>
<li>(06:35) - Pheromone Dating Parties</li>
<li>(06:39) - Statistical Flaws: Correlated Observations Explained</li>
<li>(06:55) - The Science of HLA Genes and Mate Selection</li>
<li>(07:05) - Pheromone Dating Sites and Genetic Matching</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our debut episode on pheromones and sexy sweat, with some added commentary up front..</p><p><br></p><p>Sweaty t-shirt dating parties, sex pheromone dating sites, choosing your dating partner by sniffing them up — wacko fringe fads or evidence-based mating strategies? And what does your armpit stain have to do with your kids’ immune systems, or hormonal contraceptive pills, or divorce rates? </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we reach back into the 1990s and revisit the scientific paper that started it all: The Sweaty T-Shirt Study. They bring a sharp eye and open mind, critically examining the study and following the line of research to today. Along the way, they encounter interesting statistical topics – including correlated observations, within-person study design, and bar chart blasphemy – with a short, surprising detour into Neanderthal sex. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Bar charts </li><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Cherry-picking</li><li>Data and methodological transparency</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Post-hoc analyses</li><li>Unit of observation / unit of anaysis</li><li>Within-person study design</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“Repeat after me: Bar charts are not for numerical data.”</em></p><p><em>“Those who ignore dependencies in their data are destined for flawed conclusions.”</em></p><p><em> </em></p><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/l08DM">Ah, Love at first whiff</a>. <em>Los Angeles Times</em>. May 19, 2008.</li><li>Papamarko, S. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Pheromone parties attempt to match singles by scent</a>. <em>Yahoo!life</em>. April 12, 2012.</li><li>Sainani, K. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Stone Age Gene Swap</a>. <em>Stanford Magazine</em>. November/December 2011.</li><li>Aldhous, P. <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619763-100-darling-you-smell-wonderfully-different/">Darling, You Smell Wonderfully Different</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>. 6 May 1995.</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T, Bettens F, Paepke AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7630893/">MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci</em>. 1995; 260(1359):245-249. doi:10.1098/rspb.1995.0087</li><li>Hedrick P, Loeschcke V. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/0169534796802370">MHC and mate selection in humans?</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol. </em>1996;11(1):24. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)80237-0</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0169534796810615">Reply from C. Wedekind and T. Seebeck</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol.</em> 1996;11(1):24-25. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)81061-5</li><li>Wedekind C, Füri S. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9364787/">Body odour preferences in men and women: do they aim for specific MHC combinations or simply heterozygosity?</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci. </em>1997;264(1387):1471-1479. doi:10.1098/rspb.1997.0204</li><li>Havlíček J, Winternitz J, Roberts SC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32306884/">Major histocompatibility complex-associated odour preferences and human mate choice: near and far horizons</a>.<em> Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci</em>. 2020;375(1800):20190260. doi:10.1098/rstb.2019.0260</li></ul><p> </p><p><br>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(06:09) - Conclusion</li>
<li>(06:16) - Breaking Down the Original Sweaty T-Shirt Study</li>
<li>(06:16) - Study Design Flaws and Data Transparency Issues</li>
<li>(06:17) - Media Reactions and the Study’s Public Impact</li>
<li>(06:26) - The Pill's Influence on Scent Preferences</li>
<li>(06:30) - Analyzing the Study's Questionable Results</li>
<li>(06:30) - Other Studies and their results</li>
<li>(06:34) - Overstated Conclusions and Wandering Discussions</li>
<li>(06:35) - Pheromone Dating Parties</li>
<li>(06:39) - Statistical Flaws: Correlated Observations Explained</li>
<li>(06:55) - The Science of HLA Genes and Mate Selection</li>
<li>(07:05) - Pheromone Dating Sites and Genetic Matching</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our exploration of how your diet can affect your skin – now with added commentary!</p><p><br>Wrinkles and sagging skin—just normal aging, or can you blame your sweet tooth? We dive into “sugar sag,” exploring how sugar, processed foods, and even your crispy breakfast toast might be making you look older than if you’d said no to chocolate cake and yes to broccoli. Along the way, we encounter statistical adjustment, training and test data sets, what we call “references to nowhere,” plus some cadavers and collagen. Ever heard of an AGE reader? Find out how this tool might offer a sneak peek at your date’s age—and maybe even a clue about his… um… “performance.”</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics </strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Correlation vs causation</li><li>Measurement error / proxy variables</li><li>Overfitting </li><li>Plagiarism</li><li>Proper citing practices</li><li>References to nowhere</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Training and test sets<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“When you plagiarize, you steal the errors too.”</li><li>“Overdone statistical adjustment is like overdone photo filters–at a certain point it’s just laughable.”</li></ul><p><strong>Citations</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Collagen turnover: </p><ul><li>Verzijl N, DeGroot J, Thorpe SR, et al.<a href="https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)55828-8/fulltext">Effect of Collagen Turnover on the Accumulation of Advanced Glycation End Products</a>. <em>JBC</em>. 2000;275:39027-31.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Cadaver study:</p><ul><li>Hamlin CR, Kohn RR, Luschin JH. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/24/10/902/4787/Apparent-Accelerated-Aging-of-Human-Collagen-in">Apparent Accelerated Aging of Human Collagen in Diabetes Mellitus</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1975; 24: 902–904.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.diagnoptics.com/age-reader/">AGE Reader</a></p><p><br></p><p>Studies of AGEs and diabetes and health:</p><ul><li>Monnier VM, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.6779377">Nonenzymatic browning in vivo: possible process for aging of long-lived proteins</a>. <em>Science</em>. 1981;211:491-3. </li><li>Brownlee M, Vlassara H, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-101-4-527">Nonenzymatic glycosylation and the pathogenesis of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 1984;101:527-37. </li><li>Monnier VM, Vishwanath V, Frank KE, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198602133140702">Relation between Complications of Type I Diabetes Mellitus and Collagen-Linked Fluorescence</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 1986;314:403-408.</li><li>Monnier VM, Sell DR, Abdul-Karim FW, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/37/7/867/9388/Collagen-Browning-and-Cross-Linking-Are-Increased">Collagen browning and cross-linking are increased in chronic experimental hyperglycemia</a>. Relevance to diabetes and aging. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1988;37:867-72. </li><li>Monnier VM, Bautista O, Kenny D, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/48/4/870/10667/Skin-collagen-glycation-glycoxidation-and">Skin collagen glycation, glycoxidation, and crosslinking are lower in subjects with long-term intensive versus conventional therapy of type 1 diabetes: relevance of glycated collagen products versus HbA1c as markers of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Diabetes</em> 1999; 48: 870–80.</li><li>Genuth S, Sun W, Cleary P, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622724/">Glycation and carboxymethyllysine levels in skin collagen predict the risk of future 10-year progression of diabetic retinopathy and nephropathy in the diabetes control and complications trial and epidemiology of diabetes interventions and complications participants with type 1 diabetes</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 2005;54:3103-11. </li><li>van Waateringe RP, Slagter SN, van Beek AP, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5450154/">Skin autofluorescence, a non-invasive biomarker for advanced glycation end products, is associated with the metabolic syndrome and its individual components</a>. <em>Diabetol Metab Syndr</em>. 2017;9:42. </li><li>Kouidrat Y, Zaitouni A, Amad A, et al.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056-8727(16)30351-8"> Skin autofluorescence (a marker for advanced glycation end products) and erectile dysfunction in diabetes</a>. <em>J Diabetes Complications</em>. 2017;3:108-113. </li><li>Fujita N, Ishida M, Iwane T, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10307664/">Association between Advanced Glycation End-Products, Carotenoids, and Severe Erectile Dysfunction</a>. <em>World J Mens Health</em>. 2023;41:701-11. </li><li>Uruska A, Gandecka A, Araszkiewicz A, et al. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dme.13921">Accumulation of advanced glycation end products in the skin is accelerated in relation to insulin resistance in people with Type 1 diabetes mellitus</a>. <em>Diabet Med</em>. 2019;36:620-625. </li><li>Boersma HE, Smit AJ, Paterson AD, et al<em>.</em> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-71037-7">Skin autofluorescence and cause-specific mortality in a population-based cohort</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em> 2024;14:19967.<p></p></li></ul><p>Review article with conflicts of interest: </p><ul><li>Draelos ZD. <a href="https://jddonline.com/articles/individual-article-sugar-sag-what-is-skin-glycation-and-how-do-you-combat-it-S1545961624SSF378083s5X">Sugar Sag: What Is Skin Glycation and How Do You Combat It?</a> <em>J Drugs Dermatol</em>. 2024; 23:s5-10.<p></p></li></ul><p>Clinical study on AGE interrupter cream:</p><ul><li>Draelos ZD, Yatskayer M, Raab S, Oresajo C. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1473-2165.2009.00428.x">An evaluation of the effect of a topical product containing C-xyloside and blueberry extract on the appearance of type II diabetic skin</a>. <em>J Cosmet Dermatol</em>. 2009;8:147-51. <p></p></li></ul><p>Our citation trail:</p><ul><li>2023 review article: Zgutka K, Tkacz M, Tomasiak, et al.<a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/12/9881"> A Role for Advanced Glycation End Products in Molecular Ageing</a>. <em>Int J Mol Sci.</em> 2023; 24: 9881. Sentence: “Interestingly, strict control of blood sugar for 4 months reduced the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling could also reduce the production of AGEs [152].”</li><li>Reference 152 is a review article: Cao C, Xiao Z, Wu Y, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146365/">Diet and Skin Aging-From the Perspective of Food Nutrition</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12:870. Sentence: “However, strict control of blood sugar for four months can reduce the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling can also reduce the production of AGEs [93–95].”</li><li>Reference 93 is a review article: Nguyen HP, Katta R. <a href="https://www.skintherapyletter.com/aging-skin/glycation/">Sugar sag: Glycation and the role of diet in aging skin</a>. <em>Skin Ther Lett</em>. 2015; 20: 1–5. Sentence: “Tight glycemic control over a 4-month period can result in a reduction of glycated collagen formation by 25%.37,38”</li><li>Reference 94 and 38 is a review article: Draelos ZD. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(13)00072-2">Aging skin: the role of diet: facts and controversies</a>. <em>Clin Dermatol</em>. 2013;31:701-6. Sentence: “Tighter glycemic control can reduce glycated collagen by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li>...</ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our exploration of how your diet can affect your skin – now with added commentary!</p><p><br>Wrinkles and sagging skin—just normal aging, or can you blame your sweet tooth? We dive into “sugar sag,” exploring how sugar, processed foods, and even your crispy breakfast toast might be making you look older than if you’d said no to chocolate cake and yes to broccoli. Along the way, we encounter statistical adjustment, training and test data sets, what we call “references to nowhere,” plus some cadavers and collagen. Ever heard of an AGE reader? Find out how this tool might offer a sneak peek at your date’s age—and maybe even a clue about his… um… “performance.”</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics </strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Correlation vs causation</li><li>Measurement error / proxy variables</li><li>Overfitting </li><li>Plagiarism</li><li>Proper citing practices</li><li>References to nowhere</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Training and test sets<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“When you plagiarize, you steal the errors too.”</li><li>“Overdone statistical adjustment is like overdone photo filters–at a certain point it’s just laughable.”</li></ul><p><strong>Citations</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Collagen turnover: </p><ul><li>Verzijl N, DeGroot J, Thorpe SR, et al.<a href="https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)55828-8/fulltext">Effect of Collagen Turnover on the Accumulation of Advanced Glycation End Products</a>. <em>JBC</em>. 2000;275:39027-31.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Cadaver study:</p><ul><li>Hamlin CR, Kohn RR, Luschin JH. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/24/10/902/4787/Apparent-Accelerated-Aging-of-Human-Collagen-in">Apparent Accelerated Aging of Human Collagen in Diabetes Mellitus</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1975; 24: 902–904.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.diagnoptics.com/age-reader/">AGE Reader</a></p><p><br></p><p>Studies of AGEs and diabetes and health:</p><ul><li>Monnier VM, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.6779377">Nonenzymatic browning in vivo: possible process for aging of long-lived proteins</a>. <em>Science</em>. 1981;211:491-3. </li><li>Brownlee M, Vlassara H, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-101-4-527">Nonenzymatic glycosylation and the pathogenesis of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 1984;101:527-37. </li><li>Monnier VM, Vishwanath V, Frank KE, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198602133140702">Relation between Complications of Type I Diabetes Mellitus and Collagen-Linked Fluorescence</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 1986;314:403-408.</li><li>Monnier VM, Sell DR, Abdul-Karim FW, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/37/7/867/9388/Collagen-Browning-and-Cross-Linking-Are-Increased">Collagen browning and cross-linking are increased in chronic experimental hyperglycemia</a>. Relevance to diabetes and aging. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1988;37:867-72. </li><li>Monnier VM, Bautista O, Kenny D, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/48/4/870/10667/Skin-collagen-glycation-glycoxidation-and">Skin collagen glycation, glycoxidation, and crosslinking are lower in subjects with long-term intensive versus conventional therapy of type 1 diabetes: relevance of glycated collagen products versus HbA1c as markers of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Diabetes</em> 1999; 48: 870–80.</li><li>Genuth S, Sun W, Cleary P, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622724/">Glycation and carboxymethyllysine levels in skin collagen predict the risk of future 10-year progression of diabetic retinopathy and nephropathy in the diabetes control and complications trial and epidemiology of diabetes interventions and complications participants with type 1 diabetes</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 2005;54:3103-11. </li><li>van Waateringe RP, Slagter SN, van Beek AP, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5450154/">Skin autofluorescence, a non-invasive biomarker for advanced glycation end products, is associated with the metabolic syndrome and its individual components</a>. <em>Diabetol Metab Syndr</em>. 2017;9:42. </li><li>Kouidrat Y, Zaitouni A, Amad A, et al.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056-8727(16)30351-8"> Skin autofluorescence (a marker for advanced glycation end products) and erectile dysfunction in diabetes</a>. <em>J Diabetes Complications</em>. 2017;3:108-113. </li><li>Fujita N, Ishida M, Iwane T, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10307664/">Association between Advanced Glycation End-Products, Carotenoids, and Severe Erectile Dysfunction</a>. <em>World J Mens Health</em>. 2023;41:701-11. </li><li>Uruska A, Gandecka A, Araszkiewicz A, et al. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dme.13921">Accumulation of advanced glycation end products in the skin is accelerated in relation to insulin resistance in people with Type 1 diabetes mellitus</a>. <em>Diabet Med</em>. 2019;36:620-625. </li><li>Boersma HE, Smit AJ, Paterson AD, et al<em>.</em> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-71037-7">Skin autofluorescence and cause-specific mortality in a population-based cohort</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em> 2024;14:19967.<p></p></li></ul><p>Review article with conflicts of interest: </p><ul><li>Draelos ZD. <a href="https://jddonline.com/articles/individual-article-sugar-sag-what-is-skin-glycation-and-how-do-you-combat-it-S1545961624SSF378083s5X">Sugar Sag: What Is Skin Glycation and How Do You Combat It?</a> <em>J Drugs Dermatol</em>. 2024; 23:s5-10.<p></p></li></ul><p>Clinical study on AGE interrupter cream:</p><ul><li>Draelos ZD, Yatskayer M, Raab S, Oresajo C. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1473-2165.2009.00428.x">An evaluation of the effect of a topical product containing C-xyloside and blueberry extract on the appearance of type II diabetic skin</a>. <em>J Cosmet Dermatol</em>. 2009;8:147-51. <p></p></li></ul><p>Our citation trail:</p><ul><li>2023 review article: Zgutka K, Tkacz M, Tomasiak, et al.<a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/12/9881"> A Role for Advanced Glycation End Products in Molecular Ageing</a>. <em>Int J Mol Sci.</em> 2023; 24: 9881. Sentence: “Interestingly, strict control of blood sugar for 4 months reduced the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling could also reduce the production of AGEs [152].”</li><li>Reference 152 is a review article: Cao C, Xiao Z, Wu Y, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146365/">Diet and Skin Aging-From the Perspective of Food Nutrition</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12:870. Sentence: “However, strict control of blood sugar for four months can reduce the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling can also reduce the production of AGEs [93–95].”</li><li>Reference 93 is a review article: Nguyen HP, Katta R. <a href="https://www.skintherapyletter.com/aging-skin/glycation/">Sugar sag: Glycation and the role of diet in aging skin</a>. <em>Skin Ther Lett</em>. 2015; 20: 1–5. Sentence: “Tight glycemic control over a 4-month period can result in a reduction of glycated collagen formation by 25%.37,38”</li><li>Reference 94 and 38 is a review article: Draelos ZD. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(13)00072-2">Aging skin: the role of diet: facts and controversies</a>. <em>Clin Dermatol</em>. 2013;31:701-6. Sentence: “Tighter glycemic control can reduce glycated collagen by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li>...</ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our exploration of how your diet can affect your skin – now with added commentary!</p><p><br>Wrinkles and sagging skin—just normal aging, or can you blame your sweet tooth? We dive into “sugar sag,” exploring how sugar, processed foods, and even your crispy breakfast toast might be making you look older than if you’d said no to chocolate cake and yes to broccoli. Along the way, we encounter statistical adjustment, training and test data sets, what we call “references to nowhere,” plus some cadavers and collagen. Ever heard of an AGE reader? Find out how this tool might offer a sneak peek at your date’s age—and maybe even a clue about his… um… “performance.”</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics </strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Correlation vs causation</li><li>Measurement error / proxy variables</li><li>Overfitting </li><li>Plagiarism</li><li>Proper citing practices</li><li>References to nowhere</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Training and test sets<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“When you plagiarize, you steal the errors too.”</li><li>“Overdone statistical adjustment is like overdone photo filters–at a certain point it’s just laughable.”</li></ul><p><strong>Citations</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Collagen turnover: </p><ul><li>Verzijl N, DeGroot J, Thorpe SR, et al.<a href="https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)55828-8/fulltext">Effect of Collagen Turnover on the Accumulation of Advanced Glycation End Products</a>. <em>JBC</em>. 2000;275:39027-31.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Cadaver study:</p><ul><li>Hamlin CR, Kohn RR, Luschin JH. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/24/10/902/4787/Apparent-Accelerated-Aging-of-Human-Collagen-in">Apparent Accelerated Aging of Human Collagen in Diabetes Mellitus</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1975; 24: 902–904.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.diagnoptics.com/age-reader/">AGE Reader</a></p><p><br></p><p>Studies of AGEs and diabetes and health:</p><ul><li>Monnier VM, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.6779377">Nonenzymatic browning in vivo: possible process for aging of long-lived proteins</a>. <em>Science</em>. 1981;211:491-3. </li><li>Brownlee M, Vlassara H, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-101-4-527">Nonenzymatic glycosylation and the pathogenesis of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 1984;101:527-37. </li><li>Monnier VM, Vishwanath V, Frank KE, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198602133140702">Relation between Complications of Type I Diabetes Mellitus and Collagen-Linked Fluorescence</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 1986;314:403-408.</li><li>Monnier VM, Sell DR, Abdul-Karim FW, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/37/7/867/9388/Collagen-Browning-and-Cross-Linking-Are-Increased">Collagen browning and cross-linking are increased in chronic experimental hyperglycemia</a>. Relevance to diabetes and aging. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1988;37:867-72. </li><li>Monnier VM, Bautista O, Kenny D, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/48/4/870/10667/Skin-collagen-glycation-glycoxidation-and">Skin collagen glycation, glycoxidation, and crosslinking are lower in subjects with long-term intensive versus conventional therapy of type 1 diabetes: relevance of glycated collagen products versus HbA1c as markers of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Diabetes</em> 1999; 48: 870–80.</li><li>Genuth S, Sun W, Cleary P, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622724/">Glycation and carboxymethyllysine levels in skin collagen predict the risk of future 10-year progression of diabetic retinopathy and nephropathy in the diabetes control and complications trial and epidemiology of diabetes interventions and complications participants with type 1 diabetes</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 2005;54:3103-11. </li><li>van Waateringe RP, Slagter SN, van Beek AP, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5450154/">Skin autofluorescence, a non-invasive biomarker for advanced glycation end products, is associated with the metabolic syndrome and its individual components</a>. <em>Diabetol Metab Syndr</em>. 2017;9:42. </li><li>Kouidrat Y, Zaitouni A, Amad A, et al.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056-8727(16)30351-8"> Skin autofluorescence (a marker for advanced glycation end products) and erectile dysfunction in diabetes</a>. <em>J Diabetes Complications</em>. 2017;3:108-113. </li><li>Fujita N, Ishida M, Iwane T, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10307664/">Association between Advanced Glycation End-Products, Carotenoids, and Severe Erectile Dysfunction</a>. <em>World J Mens Health</em>. 2023;41:701-11. </li><li>Uruska A, Gandecka A, Araszkiewicz A, et al. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dme.13921">Accumulation of advanced glycation end products in the skin is accelerated in relation to insulin resistance in people with Type 1 diabetes mellitus</a>. <em>Diabet Med</em>. 2019;36:620-625. </li><li>Boersma HE, Smit AJ, Paterson AD, et al<em>.</em> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-71037-7">Skin autofluorescence and cause-specific mortality in a population-based cohort</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em> 2024;14:19967.<p></p></li></ul><p>Review article with conflicts of interest: </p><ul><li>Draelos ZD. <a href="https://jddonline.com/articles/individual-article-sugar-sag-what-is-skin-glycation-and-how-do-you-combat-it-S1545961624SSF378083s5X">Sugar Sag: What Is Skin Glycation and How Do You Combat It?</a> <em>J Drugs Dermatol</em>. 2024; 23:s5-10.<p></p></li></ul><p>Clinical study on AGE interrupter cream:</p><ul><li>Draelos ZD, Yatskayer M, Raab S, Oresajo C. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1473-2165.2009.00428.x">An evaluation of the effect of a topical product containing C-xyloside and blueberry extract on the appearance of type II diabetic skin</a>. <em>J Cosmet Dermatol</em>. 2009;8:147-51. <p></p></li></ul><p>Our citation trail:</p><ul><li>2023 review article: Zgutka K, Tkacz M, Tomasiak, et al.<a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/12/9881"> A Role for Advanced Glycation End Products in Molecular Ageing</a>. <em>Int J Mol Sci.</em> 2023; 24: 9881. Sentence: “Interestingly, strict control of blood sugar for 4 months reduced the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling could also reduce the production of AGEs [152].”</li><li>Reference 152 is a review article: Cao C, Xiao Z, Wu Y, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146365/">Diet and Skin Aging-From the Perspective of Food Nutrition</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12:870. Sentence: “However, strict control of blood sugar for four months can reduce the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling can also reduce the production of AGEs [93–95].”</li><li>Reference 93 is a review article: Nguyen HP, Katta R. <a href="https://www.skintherapyletter.com/aging-skin/glycation/">Sugar sag: Glycation and the role of diet in aging skin</a>. <em>Skin Ther Lett</em>. 2015; 20: 1–5. Sentence: “Tight glycemic control over a 4-month period can result in a reduction of glycated collagen formation by 25%.37,38”</li><li>Reference 94 and 38 is a review article: Draelos ZD. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(13)00072-2">Aging skin: the role of diet: facts and controversies</a>. <em>Clin Dermatol</em>. 2013;31:701-6. Sentence: “Tighter glycemic control can reduce glycated collagen by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li>...</ul>]]>
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      <title>Bonus: Vitamin D Part 1 with commentary</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our deep dive into vitamin D and the origins of the so-called deficiency epidemic, with added commentary.</p><p><br></p><p>Is America really facing an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency? While this claim is widely believed, the story behind it is packed with twists, turns, and some pesky statistical cockroaches. In this episode, we’ll dive into a study on Hawaiian surfers, expose how shifting goalposts can create an epidemic, tackle dueling medical guidelines, and flex our statistical sleuthing skills. By the end, you might wonder if the real deficiency lies in the data.<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>conflicts of interest</li><li>cut points and thresholds</li><li>dichotomization</li><li>incentives in science</li><li>measurement and classification</li><li>normal distribution </li><li>researcher biases</li><li>standard deviation</li><li>statistical sleuthing</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Arbitrary thresholds make for arbitrary diseases.”</li><li>“Statistical errors are like cockroaches: Where there’s one, there’s many.”</li></ul><p>Note that all blood vitamin D levels discussed in the podcast are 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels given in units of ng/ml. To convert from ng/ml to nmol/L, use the formula: nmol/L=2.5*ng/ml. For example, a vitamin D level of 30 ng/mL corresponds to 75 nmol/L.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations<br></strong><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-rhonda-patrick-micronutrients-for-health-and-longevity">Dr. Rhonda Patrick: Micronutrients for Health &amp; Longevity</a>. <em>Huberman Lab</em> <em>Podcast</em>. May 1, 2022</p><p>Noh CK, Lee MJ, Kim BK, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3780826/">A Case of Nutritional Osteomalacia in Young Adult Male</a>. <em>J Bone Metab</em>. 2013; 20:51-55.</p><p>Binkley N, Novotny R, Krueger D, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/6/2130/2597445">Low vitamin D status despite abundant sun exposure</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2007;92:2130-5. </p><p>Malabanan A, Veronikis IE, Holick MF. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78933-9/fulltext">Redefining Vitamin D Insufficiency</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 1998;351:805-6. </p><p>Dawson-Hughes B, Heaney RP, Holick MF, et al. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-005-1867-7">Estimates of optimal vitamin D status</a>. <em>Osteoporos Int</em>. 2005;16:713-6.</p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMra070553">Vitamin D deficiency</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2007;357:266-81.</p><p>Cui A, Xiao P, Ma Y, et al. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.965376/full">Prevalence, trend, and predictor analyses of vitamin D deficiency in the US population, 2001-2018</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022;9:965376. </p><p>Ross AC, Manson JE, Abrams SA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3046611/">The 2011 report on dietary reference intakes for calcium and vitamin D from the Institute of Medicine: what clinicians need to know</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:53-8. </p><p>Holick MF, Binkley NC, Bischoff-Ferrari HA, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/1911/2833671">Evaluation, Treatment, and Prevention of Vitamin D Deficiency: an Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:1911-30. </p><p>Manson JE, Brannon PM, Rosen CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608005">Vitamin D deficiency-is there really a pandemic</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2016;375:1817-20. </p><p>Conti G, Chirico V, Lacquaniti A, et al. <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2013-0220/html">Vitamin D intoxication in two brothers: be careful with dietary supplements</a>. <em>J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2014;27:763-7.</p><p>Holick, Michael, et al. <em>The UV Advantage</em>. Ibooks, 2004.</p><p>Holick, Michael F. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011.</p><p>Szabo, Liz. Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It. <em>The New York Times</em>. August 18, 2018.</p><p>Lee JM, Smith JR, Philipp BL, Chen TC, Mathieu J, Holick MF. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0009922806289311">Vitamin D deficiency in a healthy group of mothers and newborn infants</a>. <em>Clin Pediatr</em>. 2007;46:42-4. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62740-7/fulltext">Vitamin D deficiency: what a pain it is</a>. <em>Mayo Clin Proc</em>. 2003;78:1457-9.</p><p>Passeri G, Pini G, Troiano L, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/11/5109/2656298">. Low Vitamin D Status, High Bone Turnover, and Bone Fractures in Centenarians</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2003;88:5109-15. </p><p>Armstrong, David. <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/michael-holick-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-child-abuse-contrarian">The Child Abuse Contrarian</a>. <em>ProPublica</em>. September 16, 2018.</p><p><br></p><p>Irwig MS, Kyinn M, Shefa MC. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/12/4333/5136071">Financial Conflicts of Interest Among Authors of Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guidelines</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2018;103:4333-38. </p><p>Demay MB, Pittas AG, Bikle DD, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1907/7685305">. Vitamin D for the Prevention of Disease: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;109:1907-47.</p><p>McCartney CR, McDonnell ME, Corrigan MD, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1948/7685309">Vitamin D Insufficiency and Epistemic Humility: An Endocrine Society Guideline Communication</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;<em> </em>109:1948–54.</p><p><br><strong>See our detailed notes </strong><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-vitamin-d-part-1/"><strong>here</strong></a><strong><br></strong></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong><br><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program<br></a><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a>...</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our deep dive into vitamin D and the origins of the so-called deficiency epidemic, with added commentary.</p><p><br></p><p>Is America really facing an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency? While this claim is widely believed, the story behind it is packed with twists, turns, and some pesky statistical cockroaches. In this episode, we’ll dive into a study on Hawaiian surfers, expose how shifting goalposts can create an epidemic, tackle dueling medical guidelines, and flex our statistical sleuthing skills. By the end, you might wonder if the real deficiency lies in the data.<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>conflicts of interest</li><li>cut points and thresholds</li><li>dichotomization</li><li>incentives in science</li><li>measurement and classification</li><li>normal distribution </li><li>researcher biases</li><li>standard deviation</li><li>statistical sleuthing</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Arbitrary thresholds make for arbitrary diseases.”</li><li>“Statistical errors are like cockroaches: Where there’s one, there’s many.”</li></ul><p>Note that all blood vitamin D levels discussed in the podcast are 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels given in units of ng/ml. To convert from ng/ml to nmol/L, use the formula: nmol/L=2.5*ng/ml. For example, a vitamin D level of 30 ng/mL corresponds to 75 nmol/L.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations<br></strong><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-rhonda-patrick-micronutrients-for-health-and-longevity">Dr. Rhonda Patrick: Micronutrients for Health &amp; Longevity</a>. <em>Huberman Lab</em> <em>Podcast</em>. May 1, 2022</p><p>Noh CK, Lee MJ, Kim BK, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3780826/">A Case of Nutritional Osteomalacia in Young Adult Male</a>. <em>J Bone Metab</em>. 2013; 20:51-55.</p><p>Binkley N, Novotny R, Krueger D, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/6/2130/2597445">Low vitamin D status despite abundant sun exposure</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2007;92:2130-5. </p><p>Malabanan A, Veronikis IE, Holick MF. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78933-9/fulltext">Redefining Vitamin D Insufficiency</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 1998;351:805-6. </p><p>Dawson-Hughes B, Heaney RP, Holick MF, et al. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-005-1867-7">Estimates of optimal vitamin D status</a>. <em>Osteoporos Int</em>. 2005;16:713-6.</p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMra070553">Vitamin D deficiency</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2007;357:266-81.</p><p>Cui A, Xiao P, Ma Y, et al. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.965376/full">Prevalence, trend, and predictor analyses of vitamin D deficiency in the US population, 2001-2018</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022;9:965376. </p><p>Ross AC, Manson JE, Abrams SA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3046611/">The 2011 report on dietary reference intakes for calcium and vitamin D from the Institute of Medicine: what clinicians need to know</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:53-8. </p><p>Holick MF, Binkley NC, Bischoff-Ferrari HA, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/1911/2833671">Evaluation, Treatment, and Prevention of Vitamin D Deficiency: an Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:1911-30. </p><p>Manson JE, Brannon PM, Rosen CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608005">Vitamin D deficiency-is there really a pandemic</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2016;375:1817-20. </p><p>Conti G, Chirico V, Lacquaniti A, et al. <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2013-0220/html">Vitamin D intoxication in two brothers: be careful with dietary supplements</a>. <em>J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2014;27:763-7.</p><p>Holick, Michael, et al. <em>The UV Advantage</em>. Ibooks, 2004.</p><p>Holick, Michael F. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011.</p><p>Szabo, Liz. Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It. <em>The New York Times</em>. August 18, 2018.</p><p>Lee JM, Smith JR, Philipp BL, Chen TC, Mathieu J, Holick MF. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0009922806289311">Vitamin D deficiency in a healthy group of mothers and newborn infants</a>. <em>Clin Pediatr</em>. 2007;46:42-4. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62740-7/fulltext">Vitamin D deficiency: what a pain it is</a>. <em>Mayo Clin Proc</em>. 2003;78:1457-9.</p><p>Passeri G, Pini G, Troiano L, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/11/5109/2656298">. Low Vitamin D Status, High Bone Turnover, and Bone Fractures in Centenarians</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2003;88:5109-15. </p><p>Armstrong, David. <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/michael-holick-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-child-abuse-contrarian">The Child Abuse Contrarian</a>. <em>ProPublica</em>. September 16, 2018.</p><p><br></p><p>Irwig MS, Kyinn M, Shefa MC. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/12/4333/5136071">Financial Conflicts of Interest Among Authors of Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guidelines</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2018;103:4333-38. </p><p>Demay MB, Pittas AG, Bikle DD, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1907/7685305">. Vitamin D for the Prevention of Disease: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;109:1907-47.</p><p>McCartney CR, McDonnell ME, Corrigan MD, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1948/7685309">Vitamin D Insufficiency and Epistemic Humility: An Endocrine Society Guideline Communication</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;<em> </em>109:1948–54.</p><p><br><strong>See our detailed notes </strong><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-vitamin-d-part-1/"><strong>here</strong></a><strong><br></strong></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong><br><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program<br></a><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a>...</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While we’re on a short break between seasons, we’re revisiting some of our favorite episodes from Season 1. This week, we’re re-releasing our deep dive into vitamin D and the origins of the so-called deficiency epidemic, with added commentary.</p><p><br></p><p>Is America really facing an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency? While this claim is widely believed, the story behind it is packed with twists, turns, and some pesky statistical cockroaches. In this episode, we’ll dive into a study on Hawaiian surfers, expose how shifting goalposts can create an epidemic, tackle dueling medical guidelines, and flex our statistical sleuthing skills. By the end, you might wonder if the real deficiency lies in the data.<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>conflicts of interest</li><li>cut points and thresholds</li><li>dichotomization</li><li>incentives in science</li><li>measurement and classification</li><li>normal distribution </li><li>researcher biases</li><li>standard deviation</li><li>statistical sleuthing</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Arbitrary thresholds make for arbitrary diseases.”</li><li>“Statistical errors are like cockroaches: Where there’s one, there’s many.”</li></ul><p>Note that all blood vitamin D levels discussed in the podcast are 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels given in units of ng/ml. To convert from ng/ml to nmol/L, use the formula: nmol/L=2.5*ng/ml. For example, a vitamin D level of 30 ng/mL corresponds to 75 nmol/L.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations<br></strong><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-rhonda-patrick-micronutrients-for-health-and-longevity">Dr. Rhonda Patrick: Micronutrients for Health &amp; Longevity</a>. <em>Huberman Lab</em> <em>Podcast</em>. May 1, 2022</p><p>Noh CK, Lee MJ, Kim BK, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3780826/">A Case of Nutritional Osteomalacia in Young Adult Male</a>. <em>J Bone Metab</em>. 2013; 20:51-55.</p><p>Binkley N, Novotny R, Krueger D, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/6/2130/2597445">Low vitamin D status despite abundant sun exposure</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2007;92:2130-5. </p><p>Malabanan A, Veronikis IE, Holick MF. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78933-9/fulltext">Redefining Vitamin D Insufficiency</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 1998;351:805-6. </p><p>Dawson-Hughes B, Heaney RP, Holick MF, et al. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-005-1867-7">Estimates of optimal vitamin D status</a>. <em>Osteoporos Int</em>. 2005;16:713-6.</p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMra070553">Vitamin D deficiency</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2007;357:266-81.</p><p>Cui A, Xiao P, Ma Y, et al. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.965376/full">Prevalence, trend, and predictor analyses of vitamin D deficiency in the US population, 2001-2018</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022;9:965376. </p><p>Ross AC, Manson JE, Abrams SA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3046611/">The 2011 report on dietary reference intakes for calcium and vitamin D from the Institute of Medicine: what clinicians need to know</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:53-8. </p><p>Holick MF, Binkley NC, Bischoff-Ferrari HA, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/1911/2833671">Evaluation, Treatment, and Prevention of Vitamin D Deficiency: an Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:1911-30. </p><p>Manson JE, Brannon PM, Rosen CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608005">Vitamin D deficiency-is there really a pandemic</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2016;375:1817-20. </p><p>Conti G, Chirico V, Lacquaniti A, et al. <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2013-0220/html">Vitamin D intoxication in two brothers: be careful with dietary supplements</a>. <em>J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2014;27:763-7.</p><p>Holick, Michael, et al. <em>The UV Advantage</em>. Ibooks, 2004.</p><p>Holick, Michael F. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011.</p><p>Szabo, Liz. Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It. <em>The New York Times</em>. August 18, 2018.</p><p>Lee JM, Smith JR, Philipp BL, Chen TC, Mathieu J, Holick MF. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0009922806289311">Vitamin D deficiency in a healthy group of mothers and newborn infants</a>. <em>Clin Pediatr</em>. 2007;46:42-4. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62740-7/fulltext">Vitamin D deficiency: what a pain it is</a>. <em>Mayo Clin Proc</em>. 2003;78:1457-9.</p><p>Passeri G, Pini G, Troiano L, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/11/5109/2656298">. Low Vitamin D Status, High Bone Turnover, and Bone Fractures in Centenarians</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2003;88:5109-15. </p><p>Armstrong, David. <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/michael-holick-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-child-abuse-contrarian">The Child Abuse Contrarian</a>. <em>ProPublica</em>. September 16, 2018.</p><p><br></p><p>Irwig MS, Kyinn M, Shefa MC. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/12/4333/5136071">Financial Conflicts of Interest Among Authors of Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guidelines</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2018;103:4333-38. </p><p>Demay MB, Pittas AG, Bikle DD, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1907/7685305">. Vitamin D for the Prevention of Disease: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;109:1907-47.</p><p>McCartney CR, McDonnell ME, Corrigan MD, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1948/7685309">Vitamin D Insufficiency and Epistemic Humility: An Endocrine Society Guideline Communication</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;<em> </em>109:1948–54.</p><p><br><strong>See our detailed notes </strong><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-vitamin-d-part-1/"><strong>here</strong></a><strong><br></strong></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong><br><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program<br></a><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a>...</p>]]>
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      <title>The Batman Effect: Do weird surprises make people nicer?</title>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p><b>Description</b></p><p>Nobody expects Batman—but when he shows up in a crowded subway car, are people suddenly more likely to help a passenger in need? This week on Normal Curves, we unpack a recent quasi-experimental field study involving a caped superhero costume, a prosthetic pregnancy belly, and some puzzled Italian commuters. Along the way, we demystify three common ways of describing effects for binary outcomes—risk differences, risk ratios, and odds ratios—and explain what they actually mean in plain language. We also do some statistical sleuthing, uncover a major problem hiding in the paper’s numbers, and debate what really counts as an effective Batman outfit.</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>absolute vs relative effects</li><li>binary outcomes</li><li>coding errors</li><li>data errors and quality control</li><li>effect size interpretation</li><li>field experiments</li><li>odds</li><li>odds ratios</li><li>percentage differences</li><li>quasi-experimental studies</li><li>risk differences</li><li>risk ratios</li><li>statistical sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“We love an uncluttered paper, but when it's missing the basics, it's like an empty fridge. Clean, yes, but dinner is not happening.”</li><li>“Before you make a fancy model, make sure the numbers in the table in the text match.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Pagnini F, Grosso F, Cavalera C, et al.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41184421/"> Unexpected events and prosocial behavior: the Batman effect.</a> <em>Npj Ment Health Res</em>. 2025;4(1):57. Published 2025 Nov 3. doi:10.1038/s44184-025-00171-5</li><li>PubPeer. <a href="https://pubpeer.com/publications/E238AC9FDFF1F31442EF7BF961C8A6"><em>Comments on</em> “Unexpected events and prosocial behavior: the Batman effect.”</a> Accessed December 2025.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21402371/">Understanding odds ratios</a>. <em>PM R</em>. 2011;3(3):263-267. doi:10.1016/j.pmrj.2011.01.009</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35038235/">Communicating measures of relative risk in plain English.</a> <em>PM R</em>. 2022;14(2):283-287. doi:10.1002/pmrj.12761</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/ajph.2012.300697">How statistics can mislead</a>. <em>Am J Public Health.</em> 2012;102:e3-4.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:42) - Why would Batman make people nicer?</li>
<li>(07:33) - How they ran the experiment</li>
<li>(17:50) - Did Batman save the day? Different ways to answer that</li>
<li>(23:00) - What are odds and odds ratios?</li>
<li>(30:00) - Where people get it wrong</li>
<li>(34:52) - The plot twist: big numerical errors</li>
<li>(41:20) - Did men or women give up their seat more often?</li>
<li>(43:49) - Wrap-up and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p><b>Description</b></p><p>Nobody expects Batman—but when he shows up in a crowded subway car, are people suddenly more likely to help a passenger in need? This week on Normal Curves, we unpack a recent quasi-experimental field study involving a caped superhero costume, a prosthetic pregnancy belly, and some puzzled Italian commuters. Along the way, we demystify three common ways of describing effects for binary outcomes—risk differences, risk ratios, and odds ratios—and explain what they actually mean in plain language. We also do some statistical sleuthing, uncover a major problem hiding in the paper’s numbers, and debate what really counts as an effective Batman outfit.</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>absolute vs relative effects</li><li>binary outcomes</li><li>coding errors</li><li>data errors and quality control</li><li>effect size interpretation</li><li>field experiments</li><li>odds</li><li>odds ratios</li><li>percentage differences</li><li>quasi-experimental studies</li><li>risk differences</li><li>risk ratios</li><li>statistical sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“We love an uncluttered paper, but when it's missing the basics, it's like an empty fridge. Clean, yes, but dinner is not happening.”</li><li>“Before you make a fancy model, make sure the numbers in the table in the text match.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Pagnini F, Grosso F, Cavalera C, et al.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41184421/"> Unexpected events and prosocial behavior: the Batman effect.</a> <em>Npj Ment Health Res</em>. 2025;4(1):57. Published 2025 Nov 3. doi:10.1038/s44184-025-00171-5</li><li>PubPeer. <a href="https://pubpeer.com/publications/E238AC9FDFF1F31442EF7BF961C8A6"><em>Comments on</em> “Unexpected events and prosocial behavior: the Batman effect.”</a> Accessed December 2025.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21402371/">Understanding odds ratios</a>. <em>PM R</em>. 2011;3(3):263-267. doi:10.1016/j.pmrj.2011.01.009</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35038235/">Communicating measures of relative risk in plain English.</a> <em>PM R</em>. 2022;14(2):283-287. doi:10.1002/pmrj.12761</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/ajph.2012.300697">How statistics can mislead</a>. <em>Am J Public Health.</em> 2012;102:e3-4.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:42) - Why would Batman make people nicer?</li>
<li>(07:33) - How they ran the experiment</li>
<li>(17:50) - Did Batman save the day? Different ways to answer that</li>
<li>(23:00) - What are odds and odds ratios?</li>
<li>(30:00) - Where people get it wrong</li>
<li>(34:52) - The plot twist: big numerical errors</li>
<li>(41:20) - Did men or women give up their seat more often?</li>
<li>(43:49) - Wrap-up and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p><b>Description</b></p><p>Nobody expects Batman—but when he shows up in a crowded subway car, are people suddenly more likely to help a passenger in need? This week on Normal Curves, we unpack a recent quasi-experimental field study involving a caped superhero costume, a prosthetic pregnancy belly, and some puzzled Italian commuters. Along the way, we demystify three common ways of describing effects for binary outcomes—risk differences, risk ratios, and odds ratios—and explain what they actually mean in plain language. We also do some statistical sleuthing, uncover a major problem hiding in the paper’s numbers, and debate what really counts as an effective Batman outfit.</p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>absolute vs relative effects</li><li>binary outcomes</li><li>coding errors</li><li>data errors and quality control</li><li>effect size interpretation</li><li>field experiments</li><li>odds</li><li>odds ratios</li><li>percentage differences</li><li>quasi-experimental studies</li><li>risk differences</li><li>risk ratios</li><li>statistical sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“We love an uncluttered paper, but when it's missing the basics, it's like an empty fridge. Clean, yes, but dinner is not happening.”</li><li>“Before you make a fancy model, make sure the numbers in the table in the text match.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Pagnini F, Grosso F, Cavalera C, et al.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41184421/"> Unexpected events and prosocial behavior: the Batman effect.</a> <em>Npj Ment Health Res</em>. 2025;4(1):57. Published 2025 Nov 3. doi:10.1038/s44184-025-00171-5</li><li>PubPeer. <a href="https://pubpeer.com/publications/E238AC9FDFF1F31442EF7BF961C8A6"><em>Comments on</em> “Unexpected events and prosocial behavior: the Batman effect.”</a> Accessed December 2025.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21402371/">Understanding odds ratios</a>. <em>PM R</em>. 2011;3(3):263-267. doi:10.1016/j.pmrj.2011.01.009</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35038235/">Communicating measures of relative risk in plain English.</a> <em>PM R</em>. 2022;14(2):283-287. doi:10.1002/pmrj.12761</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/ajph.2012.300697">How statistics can mislead</a>. <em>Am J Public Health.</em> 2012;102:e3-4.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:42) - Why would Batman make people nicer?</li>
<li>(07:33) - How they ran the experiment</li>
<li>(17:50) - Did Batman save the day? Different ways to answer that</li>
<li>(23:00) - What are odds and odds ratios?</li>
<li>(30:00) - Where people get it wrong</li>
<li>(34:52) - The plot twist: big numerical errors</li>
<li>(41:20) - Did men or women give up their seat more often?</li>
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      <title>Holiday Survival Guide Part 2: The survey study edition</title>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does the temperature of your coffee six months ago really predict whether you feel gassy today? This week we dissect a new nutrition survey study on hot and cold beverage habits that claims to connect drink temperature with gut symptoms, anxiety, and more—despite relying on year-old memories and a blizzard of statistical tests. It’s the perfect case study for our Holiday Survival Guide Part 2, where we teach you how to talk with Uncle Joe at the dinner table about one of the most common—and most fraught—study designs in science: cross-sectional surveys. We walk through our easy checklist for making sense of results, show how recall bias and measurement error can skew the story, and reacquaint you with nonmonogamous Multiple-Testing Dude, who’s been very busy in this dataset. A friendly, practical guide to spotting when researchers are just torturing the data until it confesses.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Cross-sectional studies</li><li>False positives</li><li>Measurement error</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>PICOT / PIVOT framework</li><li>Recall bias</li><li>Research hypotheses</li><li>Sample size and power</li><li>Signal vs. noise</li><li>SMART framework</li><li>Statistical significance</li><li>Subgroup analyses</li><li>Survey design</li><li>Transparency and trustworthiness<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“When your measurement starts with ‘think back to last winter’ you might as well use a random number generator.”</li><li>“If the effect is only significant in certain subgroups in certain seasons for certain outcomes, it might just be a bad case of gas.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Wu T, Doyle C, Ito J, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38248521/">Cold Exposures in Relation to Dysmenorrhea among Asian and White Women</a>. <em>Int J Environ Res Public Health</em>. 2023;21(1):56. Published 2023 Dec 30. doi:10.3390/ijerph21010056</li><li>Wu T, Ramesh N, Doyle C, Hsu FC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40964923/">Cold and hot consumption and health outcomes among US Asian and White populations</a>. <em>Br J Nutr</em>. Published online September 18, 2025. doi:10.1017/S000711452510514X</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:36) - Did they have real research hypotheses?</li>
<li>(10:29) - Observational or randomized experiment?</li>
<li>(20:09) - PICOT and PIVOT</li>
<li>(26:20) - Memory problems</li>
<li>(32:03) - Five outcomes and measurement problems therein</li>
<li>(36:56) - SMART </li>
<li>(41:50) - Multiple Testing Dude is having a great time</li>
<li>(52:36) - How big is the effect?</li>
<li>(59:06) - Wrap-up and Irish Coffee rating scale</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does the temperature of your coffee six months ago really predict whether you feel gassy today? This week we dissect a new nutrition survey study on hot and cold beverage habits that claims to connect drink temperature with gut symptoms, anxiety, and more—despite relying on year-old memories and a blizzard of statistical tests. It’s the perfect case study for our Holiday Survival Guide Part 2, where we teach you how to talk with Uncle Joe at the dinner table about one of the most common—and most fraught—study designs in science: cross-sectional surveys. We walk through our easy checklist for making sense of results, show how recall bias and measurement error can skew the story, and reacquaint you with nonmonogamous Multiple-Testing Dude, who’s been very busy in this dataset. A friendly, practical guide to spotting when researchers are just torturing the data until it confesses.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Cross-sectional studies</li><li>False positives</li><li>Measurement error</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>PICOT / PIVOT framework</li><li>Recall bias</li><li>Research hypotheses</li><li>Sample size and power</li><li>Signal vs. noise</li><li>SMART framework</li><li>Statistical significance</li><li>Subgroup analyses</li><li>Survey design</li><li>Transparency and trustworthiness<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“When your measurement starts with ‘think back to last winter’ you might as well use a random number generator.”</li><li>“If the effect is only significant in certain subgroups in certain seasons for certain outcomes, it might just be a bad case of gas.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Wu T, Doyle C, Ito J, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38248521/">Cold Exposures in Relation to Dysmenorrhea among Asian and White Women</a>. <em>Int J Environ Res Public Health</em>. 2023;21(1):56. Published 2023 Dec 30. doi:10.3390/ijerph21010056</li><li>Wu T, Ramesh N, Doyle C, Hsu FC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40964923/">Cold and hot consumption and health outcomes among US Asian and White populations</a>. <em>Br J Nutr</em>. Published online September 18, 2025. doi:10.1017/S000711452510514X</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:36) - Did they have real research hypotheses?</li>
<li>(10:29) - Observational or randomized experiment?</li>
<li>(20:09) - PICOT and PIVOT</li>
<li>(26:20) - Memory problems</li>
<li>(32:03) - Five outcomes and measurement problems therein</li>
<li>(36:56) - SMART </li>
<li>(41:50) - Multiple Testing Dude is having a great time</li>
<li>(52:36) - How big is the effect?</li>
<li>(59:06) - Wrap-up and Irish Coffee rating scale</li>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 04:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does the temperature of your coffee six months ago really predict whether you feel gassy today? This week we dissect a new nutrition survey study on hot and cold beverage habits that claims to connect drink temperature with gut symptoms, anxiety, and more—despite relying on year-old memories and a blizzard of statistical tests. It’s the perfect case study for our Holiday Survival Guide Part 2, where we teach you how to talk with Uncle Joe at the dinner table about one of the most common—and most fraught—study designs in science: cross-sectional surveys. We walk through our easy checklist for making sense of results, show how recall bias and measurement error can skew the story, and reacquaint you with nonmonogamous Multiple-Testing Dude, who’s been very busy in this dataset. A friendly, practical guide to spotting when researchers are just torturing the data until it confesses.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Confounding</li><li>Cross-sectional studies</li><li>False positives</li><li>Measurement error</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>PICOT / PIVOT framework</li><li>Recall bias</li><li>Research hypotheses</li><li>Sample size and power</li><li>Signal vs. noise</li><li>SMART framework</li><li>Statistical significance</li><li>Subgroup analyses</li><li>Survey design</li><li>Transparency and trustworthiness<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“When your measurement starts with ‘think back to last winter’ you might as well use a random number generator.”</li><li>“If the effect is only significant in certain subgroups in certain seasons for certain outcomes, it might just be a bad case of gas.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Wu T, Doyle C, Ito J, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38248521/">Cold Exposures in Relation to Dysmenorrhea among Asian and White Women</a>. <em>Int J Environ Res Public Health</em>. 2023;21(1):56. Published 2023 Dec 30. doi:10.3390/ijerph21010056</li><li>Wu T, Ramesh N, Doyle C, Hsu FC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40964923/">Cold and hot consumption and health outcomes among US Asian and White populations</a>. <em>Br J Nutr</em>. Published online September 18, 2025. doi:10.1017/S000711452510514X</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:36) - Did they have real research hypotheses?</li>
<li>(10:29) - Observational or randomized experiment?</li>
<li>(20:09) - PICOT and PIVOT</li>
<li>(26:20) - Memory problems</li>
<li>(32:03) - Five outcomes and measurement problems therein</li>
<li>(36:56) - SMART </li>
<li>(41:50) - Multiple Testing Dude is having a great time</li>
<li>(52:36) - How big is the effect?</li>
<li>(59:06) - Wrap-up and Irish Coffee rating scale</li>
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      <title>Holiday Survival Guide: How to talk about scientific studies around the dinner table</title>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does a little alcohol really make you speak a foreign language better? This week we unpack a quirky randomized trial that tested Dutch pronunciation after a modest buzz—and came to the opposite conclusion the researchers expected. We use it as the perfect holiday case study: instead of arguing with Uncle Joe at the dinner table, we’ll show you how to pull apart a scientific headline using a friendly, practical checklist anyone can learn. Along the way we stress-test the study’s claims, take a quick detour into what a .04% buzz actually looks like, and run our own before-and-after experiment with two brave science journalists at the ScienceWriters2025 conference in Chicago. A holiday survival guide with vodka tonics, statistical sleuthing, and a few surprisingly smooth French phrases.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Alternative explanations</li><li>Arithmetic consistency / GRIM test</li><li>Blinding</li><li>Effect size / magnitude</li><li>Generalizability / external validity</li><li>Observational studies vs. experiments</li><li>Outcome measurement</li><li>PICOT framework</li><li>Placebo and expectancy effects</li><li>Primary outcomes / pre-specification</li><li>Randomized controlled trials</li><li>Research hypotheses</li><li>Sample size </li><li>SMART framework</li><li>Statistical significance (signal vs. noise)</li><li>Transparency and trustworthiness<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“​​You don't need a PhD to read a study. Just remember, PICOT and SMART.”</li><li>“A decimal point can mean the difference between life and death. Details matter.”</li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Renner F, Kersbergen I, Field M, Werthmann J. Dutch courage?<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29043911/"> Effects of acute alcohol consumption on self-ratings and observer ratings of foreign language skills</a>. <em>J Psychopharmacol</em>. 2018;32(1):116-122. doi:10.1177/0269881117735687</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p>
<ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:30) - Uncle Joe and the question of alcohol</li>
<li>(07:20) - Randomized controlled trial</li>
<li>(10:10) - PICOT mnemonic </li>
<li>(15:43) - Just how drunk?</li>
<li>(22:25) - Boring non-placeb</li>
<li>(33:13) - Kristin’s SMART mnemonic </li>
<li>(39:32) - How big of an effect?</li>
<li>(50:46) - Two science journalists walk into a bar</li>
<li>(57:00) - Martini scale and wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does a little alcohol really make you speak a foreign language better? This week we unpack a quirky randomized trial that tested Dutch pronunciation after a modest buzz—and came to the opposite conclusion the researchers expected. We use it as the perfect holiday case study: instead of arguing with Uncle Joe at the dinner table, we’ll show you how to pull apart a scientific headline using a friendly, practical checklist anyone can learn. Along the way we stress-test the study’s claims, take a quick detour into what a .04% buzz actually looks like, and run our own before-and-after experiment with two brave science journalists at the ScienceWriters2025 conference in Chicago. A holiday survival guide with vodka tonics, statistical sleuthing, and a few surprisingly smooth French phrases.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Alternative explanations</li><li>Arithmetic consistency / GRIM test</li><li>Blinding</li><li>Effect size / magnitude</li><li>Generalizability / external validity</li><li>Observational studies vs. experiments</li><li>Outcome measurement</li><li>PICOT framework</li><li>Placebo and expectancy effects</li><li>Primary outcomes / pre-specification</li><li>Randomized controlled trials</li><li>Research hypotheses</li><li>Sample size </li><li>SMART framework</li><li>Statistical significance (signal vs. noise)</li><li>Transparency and trustworthiness<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“​​You don't need a PhD to read a study. Just remember, PICOT and SMART.”</li><li>“A decimal point can mean the difference between life and death. Details matter.”</li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Renner F, Kersbergen I, Field M, Werthmann J. Dutch courage?<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29043911/"> Effects of acute alcohol consumption on self-ratings and observer ratings of foreign language skills</a>. <em>J Psychopharmacol</em>. 2018;32(1):116-122. doi:10.1177/0269881117735687</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p>
<ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:30) - Uncle Joe and the question of alcohol</li>
<li>(07:20) - Randomized controlled trial</li>
<li>(10:10) - PICOT mnemonic </li>
<li>(15:43) - Just how drunk?</li>
<li>(22:25) - Boring non-placeb</li>
<li>(33:13) - Kristin’s SMART mnemonic </li>
<li>(39:32) - How big of an effect?</li>
<li>(50:46) - Two science journalists walk into a bar</li>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 04:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
      <author>Regina Nuzzo and Kristin Sainani</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does a little alcohol really make you speak a foreign language better? This week we unpack a quirky randomized trial that tested Dutch pronunciation after a modest buzz—and came to the opposite conclusion the researchers expected. We use it as the perfect holiday case study: instead of arguing with Uncle Joe at the dinner table, we’ll show you how to pull apart a scientific headline using a friendly, practical checklist anyone can learn. Along the way we stress-test the study’s claims, take a quick detour into what a .04% buzz actually looks like, and run our own before-and-after experiment with two brave science journalists at the ScienceWriters2025 conference in Chicago. A holiday survival guide with vodka tonics, statistical sleuthing, and a few surprisingly smooth French phrases.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Alternative explanations</li><li>Arithmetic consistency / GRIM test</li><li>Blinding</li><li>Effect size / magnitude</li><li>Generalizability / external validity</li><li>Observational studies vs. experiments</li><li>Outcome measurement</li><li>PICOT framework</li><li>Placebo and expectancy effects</li><li>Primary outcomes / pre-specification</li><li>Randomized controlled trials</li><li>Research hypotheses</li><li>Sample size </li><li>SMART framework</li><li>Statistical significance (signal vs. noise)</li><li>Transparency and trustworthiness<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“​​You don't need a PhD to read a study. Just remember, PICOT and SMART.”</li><li>“A decimal point can mean the difference between life and death. Details matter.”</li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Renner F, Kersbergen I, Field M, Werthmann J. Dutch courage?<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29043911/"> Effects of acute alcohol consumption on self-ratings and observer ratings of foreign language skills</a>. <em>J Psychopharmacol</em>. 2018;32(1):116-122. doi:10.1177/0269881117735687</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p>
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<li>(03:30) - Uncle Joe and the question of alcohol</li>
<li>(07:20) - Randomized controlled trial</li>
<li>(10:10) - PICOT mnemonic </li>
<li>(15:43) - Just how drunk?</li>
<li>(22:25) - Boring non-placeb</li>
<li>(33:13) - Kristin’s SMART mnemonic </li>
<li>(39:32) - How big of an effect?</li>
<li>(50:46) - Two science journalists walk into a bar</li>
<li>(57:00) - Martini scale and wrap-up</li>
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      <itunes:title>Shingles Shot and Dementia: Could one vaccine protect your brain?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What do chickenpox and shingles have to do with your brain? This week, we dig into two 2025 headline-grabbing studies that link the shingles shot to lower dementia rates. We start in Wales, where a birthday cutoff turned into the perfect natural experiment, and end in the U.S. with a multi-million-person megastudy. Featuring bias-variance Goldilockses, Fozzy-the-Bear regression discontinuities, a Barbie-versus-Oppenheimer showdown for propensity scores – and the hottest rebrand of inverse-probability weighting you’ll ever hear.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Absolute vs. relative risk</li><li>Bias–variance tradeoff</li><li>Causal inference</li><li>Censoring</li><li>Confounding</li><li>Fuzzy regression discontinuity design</li><li>Healthy-user bias</li><li>Inverse probability of treatment weighting (IPTW)</li><li>Longitudinal study</li><li>Natural experiment</li><li>Negative controls</li><li>Optimal bandwidth</li><li>Propensity scores</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Subgroup analysis</li><li>Triangular kernel weights<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Propensity scores are the lipstick you put on observational pigs.”</li><li>“Natural experiments are a hot flirtation date with causality.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Eyting M, Xie M, Michalik F, Heß S, Chung S, Geldsetzer P. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12058522/">A natural experiment on the effect of herpes zoster vaccination on dementia.</a> Nature. 2025 May;641(8062):438-446. doi: 10.1038/s41586-025-08800-x. Epub 2025 Apr 2. PMID: 40175543; PMCID: PMC12058522.</li><li>Polisky V, Littmann M, Triastcyn A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41053450/">Varicella-zoster virus reactivation and the risk of dementia.</a> <em>Nat Med</em>. Published online October 6, 2025. doi:10.1038/s41591-025-03972-5</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.07.002">Propensity scores: uses and limitations.</a> <em>PM&amp;R</em> 2012; 4:693-97.</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-shingles-vaccine-and-dementia-episode/"><strong>Detailed Show Notes Page</strong><br></a><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro and first gratuitous mention of sex</li>
<li>(03:56) - What are shingles, chickenpox, and the vaccines against them?</li>
<li>(12:30) - Fun facts about the varicella zoster and herpes viruses</li>
<li>(18:00) - A natural experiment in Wales</li>
<li>(21:54) - What is the Goldilocks optimal bandwidth?</li>
<li>(26:17) - Fuzzy regression discontinuity design demystified</li>
<li>(32:43) - Shingles vaccine vs dementia showdown</li>
<li>(34:13) - Absolute risk reduction paradox</li>
<li>(37:44) - Effects for men and women differ</li>
<li>(41:07) - A giant longitudinal study</li>
<li>(47:51) - Propensity scores demystified via Barbie and Oppenheimer</li>
<li>(53:55) - Using propensity scores to make matches</li>
<li>(58:08) - Inverse probability of treatment weighting demystified via more Barbenheimer</li>
<li>(01:02:27) - Attempts to rename IPTW for TikTok</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Longitudinal study results</li>
<li>(01:10:00) - Smooch ratings and methodological morals: pigs and hot dates</li>
</ul><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What do chickenpox and shingles have to do with your brain? This week, we dig into two 2025 headline-grabbing studies that link the shingles shot to lower dementia rates. We start in Wales, where a birthday cutoff turned into the perfect natural experiment, and end in the U.S. with a multi-million-person megastudy. Featuring bias-variance Goldilockses, Fozzy-the-Bear regression discontinuities, a Barbie-versus-Oppenheimer showdown for propensity scores – and the hottest rebrand of inverse-probability weighting you’ll ever hear.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Absolute vs. relative risk</li><li>Bias–variance tradeoff</li><li>Causal inference</li><li>Censoring</li><li>Confounding</li><li>Fuzzy regression discontinuity design</li><li>Healthy-user bias</li><li>Inverse probability of treatment weighting (IPTW)</li><li>Longitudinal study</li><li>Natural experiment</li><li>Negative controls</li><li>Optimal bandwidth</li><li>Propensity scores</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Subgroup analysis</li><li>Triangular kernel weights<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Propensity scores are the lipstick you put on observational pigs.”</li><li>“Natural experiments are a hot flirtation date with causality.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Eyting M, Xie M, Michalik F, Heß S, Chung S, Geldsetzer P. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12058522/">A natural experiment on the effect of herpes zoster vaccination on dementia.</a> Nature. 2025 May;641(8062):438-446. doi: 10.1038/s41586-025-08800-x. Epub 2025 Apr 2. PMID: 40175543; PMCID: PMC12058522.</li><li>Polisky V, Littmann M, Triastcyn A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41053450/">Varicella-zoster virus reactivation and the risk of dementia.</a> <em>Nat Med</em>. Published online October 6, 2025. doi:10.1038/s41591-025-03972-5</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.07.002">Propensity scores: uses and limitations.</a> <em>PM&amp;R</em> 2012; 4:693-97.</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-shingles-vaccine-and-dementia-episode/"><strong>Detailed Show Notes Page</strong><br></a><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro and first gratuitous mention of sex</li>
<li>(03:56) - What are shingles, chickenpox, and the vaccines against them?</li>
<li>(12:30) - Fun facts about the varicella zoster and herpes viruses</li>
<li>(18:00) - A natural experiment in Wales</li>
<li>(21:54) - What is the Goldilocks optimal bandwidth?</li>
<li>(26:17) - Fuzzy regression discontinuity design demystified</li>
<li>(32:43) - Shingles vaccine vs dementia showdown</li>
<li>(34:13) - Absolute risk reduction paradox</li>
<li>(37:44) - Effects for men and women differ</li>
<li>(41:07) - A giant longitudinal study</li>
<li>(47:51) - Propensity scores demystified via Barbie and Oppenheimer</li>
<li>(53:55) - Using propensity scores to make matches</li>
<li>(58:08) - Inverse probability of treatment weighting demystified via more Barbenheimer</li>
<li>(01:02:27) - Attempts to rename IPTW for TikTok</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Longitudinal study results</li>
<li>(01:10:00) - Smooch ratings and methodological morals: pigs and hot dates</li>
</ul><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What do chickenpox and shingles have to do with your brain? This week, we dig into two 2025 headline-grabbing studies that link the shingles shot to lower dementia rates. We start in Wales, where a birthday cutoff turned into the perfect natural experiment, and end in the U.S. with a multi-million-person megastudy. Featuring bias-variance Goldilockses, Fozzy-the-Bear regression discontinuities, a Barbie-versus-Oppenheimer showdown for propensity scores – and the hottest rebrand of inverse-probability weighting you’ll ever hear.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Absolute vs. relative risk</li><li>Bias–variance tradeoff</li><li>Causal inference</li><li>Censoring</li><li>Confounding</li><li>Fuzzy regression discontinuity design</li><li>Healthy-user bias</li><li>Inverse probability of treatment weighting (IPTW)</li><li>Longitudinal study</li><li>Natural experiment</li><li>Negative controls</li><li>Optimal bandwidth</li><li>Propensity scores</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Subgroup analysis</li><li>Triangular kernel weights<p></p></li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Propensity scores are the lipstick you put on observational pigs.”</li><li>“Natural experiments are a hot flirtation date with causality.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Eyting M, Xie M, Michalik F, Heß S, Chung S, Geldsetzer P. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12058522/">A natural experiment on the effect of herpes zoster vaccination on dementia.</a> Nature. 2025 May;641(8062):438-446. doi: 10.1038/s41586-025-08800-x. Epub 2025 Apr 2. PMID: 40175543; PMCID: PMC12058522.</li><li>Polisky V, Littmann M, Triastcyn A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41053450/">Varicella-zoster virus reactivation and the risk of dementia.</a> <em>Nat Med</em>. Published online October 6, 2025. doi:10.1038/s41591-025-03972-5</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.07.002">Propensity scores: uses and limitations.</a> <em>PM&amp;R</em> 2012; 4:693-97.</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-shingles-vaccine-and-dementia-episode/"><strong>Detailed Show Notes Page</strong><br></a><br></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro and first gratuitous mention of sex</li>
<li>(03:56) - What are shingles, chickenpox, and the vaccines against them?</li>
<li>(12:30) - Fun facts about the varicella zoster and herpes viruses</li>
<li>(18:00) - A natural experiment in Wales</li>
<li>(21:54) - What is the Goldilocks optimal bandwidth?</li>
<li>(26:17) - Fuzzy regression discontinuity design demystified</li>
<li>(32:43) - Shingles vaccine vs dementia showdown</li>
<li>(34:13) - Absolute risk reduction paradox</li>
<li>(37:44) - Effects for men and women differ</li>
<li>(41:07) - A giant longitudinal study</li>
<li>(47:51) - Propensity scores demystified via Barbie and Oppenheimer</li>
<li>(53:55) - Using propensity scores to make matches</li>
<li>(58:08) - Inverse probability of treatment weighting demystified via more Barbenheimer</li>
<li>(01:02:27) - Attempts to rename IPTW for TikTok</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Longitudinal study results</li>
<li>(01:10:00) - Smooch ratings and methodological morals: pigs and hot dates</li>
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      <title>Scary Bridge Study: Can fear make you horny?</title>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>19</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if a haunted house makes your date look hotter? This week we dive into the infamous Scary Bridge Study — the 1970s classic that launched a thousand pop-psych takes on fear and lust. It’s the one with the swaying bridge, pretty “research assistant,” and phone number scrawled on torn paper. The study became legend, but how sturdy were its stats? We retrace the design, redo the numbers, and see how many math errors it takes to sway a suspension bridge. Along the way we find an erotic-fiction writing exercise, Adventure Dudes choosing their own experimental groups, and snarky replicators who tried (and failed) to make fear sexy again. We wrap with what the latest research says about when fear really does boost attraction — and when it backfires spectacularly. A Halloween story of danger, desire, and unconscious sexual drive. </p><p>This episode has a video version! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coWoS_3460">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coWoS_3460</a></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Arithmetic checks</li><li>Chi-square test</li><li>Confounders</li><li>GRIM test</li><li>Inter-rater reliability</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Negative control</li><li>Randomization</li><li>Replication </li><li>Sample size</li><li>Signal vs. noise</li><li>Statistical sleuthing</li><li>Subjective measurement</li><li>T-test<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Those who don't verify their numbers dig their own statistical graves.”</li><li>“Famous doesn't mean flawless.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Brown, NJ, Heathers, JA. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550616673876">The GRIM test: A simple technique detects numerous anomalies in the reporting of results in psychology</a>. <em>Social Psychological and Personality Science</em>. 2017; 8(4):363-369.</li><li>Dutton DG, Aron AP.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4455773/"> Some evidence for heightened sexual attraction under conditions of high anxiety</a>. <em>J Pers Soc Psychol</em>. 1974;30(4):510-517. doi:10.1037/h0037031</li><li>Foster CA, Witcher BS, Campbell WK, Green JD. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/74/1/86.html?uid=1997-38342-007&amp;casa_token=YtqP2g5ZaioAAAAA:iw7Y2ALkShaB9ONhTfjfBIiaDVIEnPtHOyUWh50v7aXoAN-6rOugc4HZ_MQrYk6-_0DmHsi_cm5x6J_gg0WmESoS">Arousal and attraction: Evidence for automatic and controlled processes</a>. <em>J Pers Soc Psychol.</em> 1998;74(1):86-101.</li><li>Kenrick DT, Cialdini R, Linder D. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616727900500312">Misattribution under fear-producing circumstances: Four failures to replicate.</a> <em>Pers Soc Psychol Bull.</em> 1979;5(3):329-334.</li><li>van der Zee T, Anaya J, Brown NJL.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32153834/"> Statistical heartburn: an attempt to digest four pizza publications from the Cornell Food and Brand Lab.</a> <em>BMC Nutr</em>. 2017;3:54. Published 2017 Jul 10. doi:10.1186/s40795-017-0167-x</li><li><a href="http://www.prepubmed.org/grim_test/">http://www.prepubmed.org/grim_test/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro: Fear and Flirtation on a Suspension Bridge</li>
<li>(05:40) - A Classic 1970s Experiment with No IRB to be Found</li>
<li>(11:15) - Adventure Dudes Choose Their Own Bridge</li>
<li>(17:00) - The Sexy Story Scale</li>
<li>(22:20) - Cool Factor and the Negative Control</li>
<li>(28:54) - Grim Reaper Math</li>
<li>(36:29) - T-Tests, Chi-Squares, and Shaky Results</li>
<li>(42:44) - Electric Shocks and Damsels in Distress</li>
<li>(50:49) - Replications and Rejections</li>
<li>(58:39) - Wrap-Up, Methodological Morals, and a New Sexy Rating Scale</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if a haunted house makes your date look hotter? This week we dive into the infamous Scary Bridge Study — the 1970s classic that launched a thousand pop-psych takes on fear and lust. It’s the one with the swaying bridge, pretty “research assistant,” and phone number scrawled on torn paper. The study became legend, but how sturdy were its stats? We retrace the design, redo the numbers, and see how many math errors it takes to sway a suspension bridge. Along the way we find an erotic-fiction writing exercise, Adventure Dudes choosing their own experimental groups, and snarky replicators who tried (and failed) to make fear sexy again. We wrap with what the latest research says about when fear really does boost attraction — and when it backfires spectacularly. A Halloween story of danger, desire, and unconscious sexual drive. </p><p>This episode has a video version! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coWoS_3460">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coWoS_3460</a></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Arithmetic checks</li><li>Chi-square test</li><li>Confounders</li><li>GRIM test</li><li>Inter-rater reliability</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Negative control</li><li>Randomization</li><li>Replication </li><li>Sample size</li><li>Signal vs. noise</li><li>Statistical sleuthing</li><li>Subjective measurement</li><li>T-test<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Those who don't verify their numbers dig their own statistical graves.”</li><li>“Famous doesn't mean flawless.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Brown, NJ, Heathers, JA. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550616673876">The GRIM test: A simple technique detects numerous anomalies in the reporting of results in psychology</a>. <em>Social Psychological and Personality Science</em>. 2017; 8(4):363-369.</li><li>Dutton DG, Aron AP.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4455773/"> Some evidence for heightened sexual attraction under conditions of high anxiety</a>. <em>J Pers Soc Psychol</em>. 1974;30(4):510-517. doi:10.1037/h0037031</li><li>Foster CA, Witcher BS, Campbell WK, Green JD. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/74/1/86.html?uid=1997-38342-007&amp;casa_token=YtqP2g5ZaioAAAAA:iw7Y2ALkShaB9ONhTfjfBIiaDVIEnPtHOyUWh50v7aXoAN-6rOugc4HZ_MQrYk6-_0DmHsi_cm5x6J_gg0WmESoS">Arousal and attraction: Evidence for automatic and controlled processes</a>. <em>J Pers Soc Psychol.</em> 1998;74(1):86-101.</li><li>Kenrick DT, Cialdini R, Linder D. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616727900500312">Misattribution under fear-producing circumstances: Four failures to replicate.</a> <em>Pers Soc Psychol Bull.</em> 1979;5(3):329-334.</li><li>van der Zee T, Anaya J, Brown NJL.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32153834/"> Statistical heartburn: an attempt to digest four pizza publications from the Cornell Food and Brand Lab.</a> <em>BMC Nutr</em>. 2017;3:54. Published 2017 Jul 10. doi:10.1186/s40795-017-0167-x</li><li><a href="http://www.prepubmed.org/grim_test/">http://www.prepubmed.org/grim_test/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro: Fear and Flirtation on a Suspension Bridge</li>
<li>(05:40) - A Classic 1970s Experiment with No IRB to be Found</li>
<li>(11:15) - Adventure Dudes Choose Their Own Bridge</li>
<li>(17:00) - The Sexy Story Scale</li>
<li>(22:20) - Cool Factor and the Negative Control</li>
<li>(28:54) - Grim Reaper Math</li>
<li>(36:29) - T-Tests, Chi-Squares, and Shaky Results</li>
<li>(42:44) - Electric Shocks and Damsels in Distress</li>
<li>(50:49) - Replications and Rejections</li>
<li>(58:39) - Wrap-Up, Methodological Morals, and a New Sexy Rating Scale</li>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2025 04:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if a haunted house makes your date look hotter? This week we dive into the infamous Scary Bridge Study — the 1970s classic that launched a thousand pop-psych takes on fear and lust. It’s the one with the swaying bridge, pretty “research assistant,” and phone number scrawled on torn paper. The study became legend, but how sturdy were its stats? We retrace the design, redo the numbers, and see how many math errors it takes to sway a suspension bridge. Along the way we find an erotic-fiction writing exercise, Adventure Dudes choosing their own experimental groups, and snarky replicators who tried (and failed) to make fear sexy again. We wrap with what the latest research says about when fear really does boost attraction — and when it backfires spectacularly. A Halloween story of danger, desire, and unconscious sexual drive. </p><p>This episode has a video version! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coWoS_3460">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2coWoS_3460</a></p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Arithmetic checks</li><li>Chi-square test</li><li>Confounders</li><li>GRIM test</li><li>Inter-rater reliability</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Negative control</li><li>Randomization</li><li>Replication </li><li>Sample size</li><li>Signal vs. noise</li><li>Statistical sleuthing</li><li>Subjective measurement</li><li>T-test<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Those who don't verify their numbers dig their own statistical graves.”</li><li>“Famous doesn't mean flawless.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Brown, NJ, Heathers, JA. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550616673876">The GRIM test: A simple technique detects numerous anomalies in the reporting of results in psychology</a>. <em>Social Psychological and Personality Science</em>. 2017; 8(4):363-369.</li><li>Dutton DG, Aron AP.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/4455773/"> Some evidence for heightened sexual attraction under conditions of high anxiety</a>. <em>J Pers Soc Psychol</em>. 1974;30(4):510-517. doi:10.1037/h0037031</li><li>Foster CA, Witcher BS, Campbell WK, Green JD. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/74/1/86.html?uid=1997-38342-007&amp;casa_token=YtqP2g5ZaioAAAAA:iw7Y2ALkShaB9ONhTfjfBIiaDVIEnPtHOyUWh50v7aXoAN-6rOugc4HZ_MQrYk6-_0DmHsi_cm5x6J_gg0WmESoS">Arousal and attraction: Evidence for automatic and controlled processes</a>. <em>J Pers Soc Psychol.</em> 1998;74(1):86-101.</li><li>Kenrick DT, Cialdini R, Linder D. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616727900500312">Misattribution under fear-producing circumstances: Four failures to replicate.</a> <em>Pers Soc Psychol Bull.</em> 1979;5(3):329-334.</li><li>van der Zee T, Anaya J, Brown NJL.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32153834/"> Statistical heartburn: an attempt to digest four pizza publications from the Cornell Food and Brand Lab.</a> <em>BMC Nutr</em>. 2017;3:54. Published 2017 Jul 10. doi:10.1186/s40795-017-0167-x</li><li><a href="http://www.prepubmed.org/grim_test/">http://www.prepubmed.org/grim_test/</a></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro: Fear and Flirtation on a Suspension Bridge</li>
<li>(05:40) - A Classic 1970s Experiment with No IRB to be Found</li>
<li>(11:15) - Adventure Dudes Choose Their Own Bridge</li>
<li>(17:00) - The Sexy Story Scale</li>
<li>(22:20) - Cool Factor and the Negative Control</li>
<li>(28:54) - Grim Reaper Math</li>
<li>(36:29) - T-Tests, Chi-Squares, and Shaky Results</li>
<li>(42:44) - Electric Shocks and Damsels in Distress</li>
<li>(50:49) - Replications and Rejections</li>
<li>(58:39) - Wrap-Up, Methodological Morals, and a New Sexy Rating Scale</li>
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      <title>Ultramarathons: Can vitamin D protect your bones?</title>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>18</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Ultramarathons: Can vitamin D protect your bones?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ultramarathoners push their bodies to the limit, but can a giant pre-race dose of vitamin D really keep their bones from breaking down? In this episode, we dig into a trial that tested this claim – and found  a statistical endurance event of its own: six highly interchangeable papers sliced from one small study.  Expect missing runners, recycled figures, and a peer-review that reads like stand-up comedy, plus a quick lesson in using degrees of freedom as your statistical breadcrumbs.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Data cleaning and validation</li><li>Degrees of freedom</li><li>Exploratory vs confirmatory analysis</li><li>False positives and Type I error</li><li>Intention-to-treat principle</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Open data and transparency</li><li>P-hacking</li><li>Salami slicing</li><li>Parametric vs non-parametric tests</li><li>Peer review quality</li><li>Randomized controlled trials</li><li>Research reproducibility</li><li>Statistical sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“Degrees of freedom are the breadcrumbs in statistical sleuthing. They reveal the sample size even when the authors do not.”</em></li><li><em>“Publishing the same study again and again with only the outcomes swapped is Mad Libs Science, better known as salami slicing.”<br></em><br></li></ul><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Boswell, Rachel. <a href="https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/health/injury/a68056833/vitamin-d-ultramarathon-study/">Pre-race vitamin D could do wonders for ultrarunners’ bone health, according to science.</a> Runner’s World. September 25, 2025. </li><li>Mieszkowski J, Stankiewicz B, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33255807/">Ultra-Marathon-Induced Increase in Serum Levels of Vitamin D Metabolites: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial. </a><em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12(12):3629. Published 2020 Nov 25. doi:10.3390/nu12123629</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Borkowska A, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33924645/">Single High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation as an Approach for Reducing Ultramarathon-Induced Inflammation: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2021;13(4):1280. Published 2021 Apr 13. doi:10.3390/nu13041280</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Brzezińska P, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36364748/">Direct Effects of Vitamin D Supplementation on Ultramarathon-Induced Changes in Kynurenine Metabolism.</a><em> Nutrients</em>. 2022;14(21):4485. Published 2022 Oct 25. doi:10.3390/nu14214485</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Brzezińska P, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37630726/">Vitamin D Supplementation Influences Ultramarathon-Induced Changes in Serum Amino Acid Levels, Tryptophan/Branched-Chain Amino Acid Ratio, and Arginine/Asymmetric Dimethylarginine Ratio.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2023;15(16):3536. Published 2023 Aug 11. doi:10.3390/nu15163536</li><li>Stankiewicz B, Mieszkowski J, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39125358/">Effect of Single High-Dose Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Post-Ultra Mountain Running Heart Damage and Iron Metabolism Changes: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2024;16(15):2479. Published 2024 Jul 31. doi:10.3390/nu16152479</li><li>Stankiewicz B, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40963202/">Single high-dose vitamin D supplementation impacts ultramarathon-induced changes in serum levels of bone turnover markers: a double-blind randomized controlled trial.</a> J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2025 Dec;22(1):2561661. doi: 10.1080/15502783.2025.2561661.</li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br> 00:00 Intro &amp; claim of the episode<br> 00:44 Runner’s World headline: Vitamin D for ultramarathoners<br> 02:03 Kristin’s connection to running and vitamin D skepticism<br> 03:32 Ultramarathon world—Regina’s stories and Death Valley race<br> 06:29 What ultramarathons do to your bones<br> 08:02 Boy story: four stress fractures in one race<br> 10:00 Study design—40 male runners in Poland<br> 11:33 Missing flow diagram and violated intention-to-treat<br> 13:02 The intervention: 150,000 IU megadose<br> 15:09 Blinding details and missing randomization info<br> 17:13 Measuring bone biomarkers—no primary outcome specified<br> 19:12 The wrong clinicaltrials.gov registration<br> 20:35 Discovery of six papers from one dataset (salami slicing)<br> 23:02 Why salami slicing misleads readers<br> 25:42 Inconsistent reporting across papers<br> 29:11 Changing inclusion criteria and sloppy methods<br> 31:06 Typos, Polish notes, and misnumbered references<br> 32:39 Peer review comedy gold—“Please define vitamin D”<br> 36:06 Reviewer laziness and p-hacking admission<br> 39:13 Results: implausible bone growth mid-race<br> 41:16 Degrees of freedom sleuthing reveals hidden sample sizes<br> 47:07 Open data? Kristin emails the authors<br> 48:42 Lessons from Kristin’s own ultramarathon dataset<br> 51:22 Fishing expeditions and misuse of parametric tests<br> 53:07 Strength of evidence: one smooch each<br> 54:44 Methodologic morals—Mad Libs Science &amp; degrees of freedom breadcrumbs<br> 56:12 Anyone can spot red flags—trust your eyes<br> 57:34 Outro: skip the vitamin D shot before your next run </p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ultramarathoners push their bodies to the limit, but can a giant pre-race dose of vitamin D really keep their bones from breaking down? In this episode, we dig into a trial that tested this claim – and found  a statistical endurance event of its own: six highly interchangeable papers sliced from one small study.  Expect missing runners, recycled figures, and a peer-review that reads like stand-up comedy, plus a quick lesson in using degrees of freedom as your statistical breadcrumbs.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Data cleaning and validation</li><li>Degrees of freedom</li><li>Exploratory vs confirmatory analysis</li><li>False positives and Type I error</li><li>Intention-to-treat principle</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Open data and transparency</li><li>P-hacking</li><li>Salami slicing</li><li>Parametric vs non-parametric tests</li><li>Peer review quality</li><li>Randomized controlled trials</li><li>Research reproducibility</li><li>Statistical sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“Degrees of freedom are the breadcrumbs in statistical sleuthing. They reveal the sample size even when the authors do not.”</em></li><li><em>“Publishing the same study again and again with only the outcomes swapped is Mad Libs Science, better known as salami slicing.”<br></em><br></li></ul><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Boswell, Rachel. <a href="https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/health/injury/a68056833/vitamin-d-ultramarathon-study/">Pre-race vitamin D could do wonders for ultrarunners’ bone health, according to science.</a> Runner’s World. September 25, 2025. </li><li>Mieszkowski J, Stankiewicz B, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33255807/">Ultra-Marathon-Induced Increase in Serum Levels of Vitamin D Metabolites: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial. </a><em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12(12):3629. Published 2020 Nov 25. doi:10.3390/nu12123629</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Borkowska A, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33924645/">Single High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation as an Approach for Reducing Ultramarathon-Induced Inflammation: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2021;13(4):1280. Published 2021 Apr 13. doi:10.3390/nu13041280</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Brzezińska P, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36364748/">Direct Effects of Vitamin D Supplementation on Ultramarathon-Induced Changes in Kynurenine Metabolism.</a><em> Nutrients</em>. 2022;14(21):4485. Published 2022 Oct 25. doi:10.3390/nu14214485</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Brzezińska P, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37630726/">Vitamin D Supplementation Influences Ultramarathon-Induced Changes in Serum Amino Acid Levels, Tryptophan/Branched-Chain Amino Acid Ratio, and Arginine/Asymmetric Dimethylarginine Ratio.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2023;15(16):3536. Published 2023 Aug 11. doi:10.3390/nu15163536</li><li>Stankiewicz B, Mieszkowski J, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39125358/">Effect of Single High-Dose Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Post-Ultra Mountain Running Heart Damage and Iron Metabolism Changes: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2024;16(15):2479. Published 2024 Jul 31. doi:10.3390/nu16152479</li><li>Stankiewicz B, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40963202/">Single high-dose vitamin D supplementation impacts ultramarathon-induced changes in serum levels of bone turnover markers: a double-blind randomized controlled trial.</a> J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2025 Dec;22(1):2561661. doi: 10.1080/15502783.2025.2561661.</li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br> 00:00 Intro &amp; claim of the episode<br> 00:44 Runner’s World headline: Vitamin D for ultramarathoners<br> 02:03 Kristin’s connection to running and vitamin D skepticism<br> 03:32 Ultramarathon world—Regina’s stories and Death Valley race<br> 06:29 What ultramarathons do to your bones<br> 08:02 Boy story: four stress fractures in one race<br> 10:00 Study design—40 male runners in Poland<br> 11:33 Missing flow diagram and violated intention-to-treat<br> 13:02 The intervention: 150,000 IU megadose<br> 15:09 Blinding details and missing randomization info<br> 17:13 Measuring bone biomarkers—no primary outcome specified<br> 19:12 The wrong clinicaltrials.gov registration<br> 20:35 Discovery of six papers from one dataset (salami slicing)<br> 23:02 Why salami slicing misleads readers<br> 25:42 Inconsistent reporting across papers<br> 29:11 Changing inclusion criteria and sloppy methods<br> 31:06 Typos, Polish notes, and misnumbered references<br> 32:39 Peer review comedy gold—“Please define vitamin D”<br> 36:06 Reviewer laziness and p-hacking admission<br> 39:13 Results: implausible bone growth mid-race<br> 41:16 Degrees of freedom sleuthing reveals hidden sample sizes<br> 47:07 Open data? Kristin emails the authors<br> 48:42 Lessons from Kristin’s own ultramarathon dataset<br> 51:22 Fishing expeditions and misuse of parametric tests<br> 53:07 Strength of evidence: one smooch each<br> 54:44 Methodologic morals—Mad Libs Science &amp; degrees of freedom breadcrumbs<br> 56:12 Anyone can spot red flags—trust your eyes<br> 57:34 Outro: skip the vitamin D shot before your next run </p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ultramarathoners push their bodies to the limit, but can a giant pre-race dose of vitamin D really keep their bones from breaking down? In this episode, we dig into a trial that tested this claim – and found  a statistical endurance event of its own: six highly interchangeable papers sliced from one small study.  Expect missing runners, recycled figures, and a peer-review that reads like stand-up comedy, plus a quick lesson in using degrees of freedom as your statistical breadcrumbs.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Data cleaning and validation</li><li>Degrees of freedom</li><li>Exploratory vs confirmatory analysis</li><li>False positives and Type I error</li><li>Intention-to-treat principle</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Open data and transparency</li><li>P-hacking</li><li>Salami slicing</li><li>Parametric vs non-parametric tests</li><li>Peer review quality</li><li>Randomized controlled trials</li><li>Research reproducibility</li><li>Statistical sleuthing<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“Degrees of freedom are the breadcrumbs in statistical sleuthing. They reveal the sample size even when the authors do not.”</em></li><li><em>“Publishing the same study again and again with only the outcomes swapped is Mad Libs Science, better known as salami slicing.”<br></em><br></li></ul><p><br><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Boswell, Rachel. <a href="https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/health/injury/a68056833/vitamin-d-ultramarathon-study/">Pre-race vitamin D could do wonders for ultrarunners’ bone health, according to science.</a> Runner’s World. September 25, 2025. </li><li>Mieszkowski J, Stankiewicz B, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33255807/">Ultra-Marathon-Induced Increase in Serum Levels of Vitamin D Metabolites: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial. </a><em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12(12):3629. Published 2020 Nov 25. doi:10.3390/nu12123629</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Borkowska A, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33924645/">Single High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation as an Approach for Reducing Ultramarathon-Induced Inflammation: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2021;13(4):1280. Published 2021 Apr 13. doi:10.3390/nu13041280</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Brzezińska P, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36364748/">Direct Effects of Vitamin D Supplementation on Ultramarathon-Induced Changes in Kynurenine Metabolism.</a><em> Nutrients</em>. 2022;14(21):4485. Published 2022 Oct 25. doi:10.3390/nu14214485</li><li>Mieszkowski J, Brzezińska P, Stankiewicz B, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37630726/">Vitamin D Supplementation Influences Ultramarathon-Induced Changes in Serum Amino Acid Levels, Tryptophan/Branched-Chain Amino Acid Ratio, and Arginine/Asymmetric Dimethylarginine Ratio.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2023;15(16):3536. Published 2023 Aug 11. doi:10.3390/nu15163536</li><li>Stankiewicz B, Mieszkowski J, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39125358/">Effect of Single High-Dose Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Post-Ultra Mountain Running Heart Damage and Iron Metabolism Changes: A Double-Blind Randomized Controlled Trial.</a> <em>Nutrients</em>. 2024;16(15):2479. Published 2024 Jul 31. doi:10.3390/nu16152479</li><li>Stankiewicz B, Kochanowicz A, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40963202/">Single high-dose vitamin D supplementation impacts ultramarathon-induced changes in serum levels of bone turnover markers: a double-blind randomized controlled trial.</a> J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2025 Dec;22(1):2561661. doi: 10.1080/15502783.2025.2561661.</li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br> 00:00 Intro &amp; claim of the episode<br> 00:44 Runner’s World headline: Vitamin D for ultramarathoners<br> 02:03 Kristin’s connection to running and vitamin D skepticism<br> 03:32 Ultramarathon world—Regina’s stories and Death Valley race<br> 06:29 What ultramarathons do to your bones<br> 08:02 Boy story: four stress fractures in one race<br> 10:00 Study design—40 male runners in Poland<br> 11:33 Missing flow diagram and violated intention-to-treat<br> 13:02 The intervention: 150,000 IU megadose<br> 15:09 Blinding details and missing randomization info<br> 17:13 Measuring bone biomarkers—no primary outcome specified<br> 19:12 The wrong clinicaltrials.gov registration<br> 20:35 Discovery of six papers from one dataset (salami slicing)<br> 23:02 Why salami slicing misleads readers<br> 25:42 Inconsistent reporting across papers<br> 29:11 Changing inclusion criteria and sloppy methods<br> 31:06 Typos, Polish notes, and misnumbered references<br> 32:39 Peer review comedy gold—“Please define vitamin D”<br> 36:06 Reviewer laziness and p-hacking admission<br> 39:13 Results: implausible bone growth mid-race<br> 41:16 Degrees of freedom sleuthing reveals hidden sample sizes<br> 47:07 Open data? Kristin emails the authors<br> 48:42 Lessons from Kristin’s own ultramarathon dataset<br> 51:22 Fishing expeditions and misuse of parametric tests<br> 53:07 Strength of evidence: one smooch each<br> 54:44 Methodologic morals—Mad Libs Science &amp; degrees of freedom breadcrumbs<br> 56:12 Anyone can spot red flags—trust your eyes<br> 57:34 Outro: skip the vitamin D shot before your next run </p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>P-values show up in almost every scientific paper, yet they’re one of the most misunderstood ideas in statistics. In this episode, we break from our usual journal-club format to unpack what a p-value really is, why researchers have fought about it for a century, and how that famous 0.05 cutoff became enshrined in science. Along the way, we share stories from our own papers—from a Nature feature that helped reshape the debate to a statistical sleuthing project that uncovered a faulty method in sports science. The result: a behind-the-scenes look at how one statistical tool has shaped the culture of science itself.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Bayesian statistics</li><li>Confidence intervals </li><li>Effect size vs. statistical significance</li><li>Fisher’s conception of p-values</li><li>Frequentist perspective</li><li>Magnitude-Based Inference (MBI)</li><li>Multiple testing / multiple comparisons</li><li>Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing framework</li><li>P-hacking</li><li>Posterior probabilities</li><li>Preregistration and registered reports</li><li>Prior probabilities</li><li>P-values</li><li>Researcher degrees of freedom</li><li>Significance thresholds (p &lt; 0.05)</li><li>Simulation-based inference</li><li>Statistical power </li><li>Statistical significance</li><li>Transparency in research </li><li>Type I error (false positive)</li><li>Type II error (false negative)</li><li>Winner’s Curse</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“​​If p-values tell us the probability the null is true, then octopuses are psychic.”</li><li>“Statistical tools don't fool us, blind faith in them does.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo R. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24522584/">Scientific method: statistical errors.</a> Nature. 2014 Feb 13;506(7487):150-2. doi: 10.1038/506150a. </li><li>Nuzzo, R., 2015. <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-perturbed-by-loss-of-stat-tools-to-sift-research-fudge-from-fact/">Scientists perturbed by loss of stat tools to sift research fudge from fact</a>. <em>Scientific American</em>, pp.16-18.</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724848/">The inverse fallacy and interpreting P values</a>. PM&amp;R. 2015 Mar;7(3):311-4. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2015.02.011. Epub 2015 Feb 25. </li><li>Nuzzo, R., 2015. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/S0262407915604973">Probability wars</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>, <em>225</em>(3012), pp.38-41.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19769922/">Putting P values in perspective</a>. PM&amp;R. 2009 Sep;1(9):873-7. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2009.07.003.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22732155/">Clinical versus statistical significance</a>. PM&amp;R. 2012 Jun;4(6):442-5. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.04.014.</li><li>McLaughlin MJ, Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24769263/">Bonferroni, Holm, and Hochberg corrections: fun names, serious changes to p values.</a> PM&amp;R. 2014 Jun;6(6):544-6. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2014.04.006. Epub 2014 Apr 22. </li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29683920/">The Problem with "Magnitude-based Inference".</a> Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2018 Oct;50(10):2166-2176. doi: 10.1249/MSS.0000000000001645. </li><li>Sainani KL, Lohse KR, Jones PR, Vickers A. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6684445/">Magnitude-based Inference is not Bayesian and is not a valid method of inference.</a> Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2019 Sep;29(9):1428-1436. doi: 10.1111/sms.13491. </li><li>Lohse KR, Sainani KL, Taylor JA, Butson ML, Knight EJ, Vickers AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32589653/">Systematic review of the use of "magnitude-based inference" in sports science and medicine.</a> PLoS One. 2020 Jun 26;15(6):e0235318. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0235318. </li><li>Wasserstein, R.L. and Lazar, N.A., 2016. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00031305.2016.1154108">The ASA statement on p-values: context, process, and purpose.</a> <em>The American Statistician</em>, <em>70</em>(2), pp.129-133.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro &amp; claim of the episode</li>
<li>(01:00) - Why p-values matter in science</li>
<li>(02:44) - What is a p-value? (ESP guessing game)</li>
<li>(06:47) - Big vs. small p-values (psychic octopus example)</li>
<li>(08:29) - Significance thresholds and the 0.05 rule</li>
<li>(09:00) - Regina’s Nature paper on p-values</li>
<li>(11:32) - Misconceptions about p-values</li>
<li>(13:18) - Fisher vs. Neyman-Pearson (history &amp; feud)</li>
<li>(16:26) - Botox analogy and type I vs. type II errors</li>
<li>(19:41) - Dating app analogies for false positives/negatives</li>
<li>(22:02) - How the 0.05 cutoff got enshrined</li>
<li>(24:43) - Misinterpretations: statistical vs. practical significance</li>
<li>(26:19) - Effect size, sample size, and “statistically discernible”</li>
<li>(26:48) - P-hacking and researcher degrees of freedom</li>
<li>(29:49) - Transparency, preregistration, and open science</li>
<li>(30:55) - The 0.05 cutoff trap (p = 0.049 vs 0.051)</li>
<li>(31:21) - The biggest misinterpretation: what p-values actually mean</li>
<li>(33:32) - Paul the psychic octopus (worked example)</li>
<li>(36:02) - Why Bayesian statistics differ</li>
<li>(39:52) - Why aren’t we all Bayesian? (probability wars)</li>
<li>(41:08) - The ASA p-value statement (behind the scenes)</li>
<li>(43:19) - Key principles from the ASA white paper</li>
<li>(44:18) - Wrapping up Regina’s paper</li>
<li>(45:36) - Kristin’s paper on sports science (MBI)</li>
<li>(48:13) - What MBI is and how it spread</li>
<li>(50:46) - How Kristin got pulled in (Christie Aschwanden &amp; FiveThirtyEight)</li>
<li>(54:08) - Critiques of MBI and “Bayesian monster” rebuttal</li>
<li>(56:17) - Spreadsheet autopsies (Welsh &amp; Knight)</li>
<li>(58:08) - Cherry juice example (why MBI misleads)</li>
<li>(01:00:25) - Rebuttals and smoke &amp; mirrors from MBI advocates</li>
<li>(01:02:58) - Winner’s Curse and small samples</li>
<li>(01:03:41) - Twitter fights &amp; “establishment statistician”</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Cult-like following &amp; Matrix red pill analogy</li>
<li>(01:08:09) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>P-values show up in almost every scientific paper, yet they’re one of the most misunderstood ideas in statistics. In this episode, we break from our usual journal-club format to unpack what a p-value really is, why researchers have fought about it for a century, and how that famous 0.05 cutoff became enshrined in science. Along the way, we share stories from our own papers—from a Nature feature that helped reshape the debate to a statistical sleuthing project that uncovered a faulty method in sports science. The result: a behind-the-scenes look at how one statistical tool has shaped the culture of science itself.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Bayesian statistics</li><li>Confidence intervals </li><li>Effect size vs. statistical significance</li><li>Fisher’s conception of p-values</li><li>Frequentist perspective</li><li>Magnitude-Based Inference (MBI)</li><li>Multiple testing / multiple comparisons</li><li>Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing framework</li><li>P-hacking</li><li>Posterior probabilities</li><li>Preregistration and registered reports</li><li>Prior probabilities</li><li>P-values</li><li>Researcher degrees of freedom</li><li>Significance thresholds (p &lt; 0.05)</li><li>Simulation-based inference</li><li>Statistical power </li><li>Statistical significance</li><li>Transparency in research </li><li>Type I error (false positive)</li><li>Type II error (false negative)</li><li>Winner’s Curse</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“​​If p-values tell us the probability the null is true, then octopuses are psychic.”</li><li>“Statistical tools don't fool us, blind faith in them does.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo R. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24522584/">Scientific method: statistical errors.</a> Nature. 2014 Feb 13;506(7487):150-2. doi: 10.1038/506150a. </li><li>Nuzzo, R., 2015. <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-perturbed-by-loss-of-stat-tools-to-sift-research-fudge-from-fact/">Scientists perturbed by loss of stat tools to sift research fudge from fact</a>. <em>Scientific American</em>, pp.16-18.</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724848/">The inverse fallacy and interpreting P values</a>. PM&amp;R. 2015 Mar;7(3):311-4. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2015.02.011. Epub 2015 Feb 25. </li><li>Nuzzo, R., 2015. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/S0262407915604973">Probability wars</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>, <em>225</em>(3012), pp.38-41.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19769922/">Putting P values in perspective</a>. PM&amp;R. 2009 Sep;1(9):873-7. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2009.07.003.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22732155/">Clinical versus statistical significance</a>. PM&amp;R. 2012 Jun;4(6):442-5. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.04.014.</li><li>McLaughlin MJ, Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24769263/">Bonferroni, Holm, and Hochberg corrections: fun names, serious changes to p values.</a> PM&amp;R. 2014 Jun;6(6):544-6. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2014.04.006. Epub 2014 Apr 22. </li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29683920/">The Problem with "Magnitude-based Inference".</a> Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2018 Oct;50(10):2166-2176. doi: 10.1249/MSS.0000000000001645. </li><li>Sainani KL, Lohse KR, Jones PR, Vickers A. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6684445/">Magnitude-based Inference is not Bayesian and is not a valid method of inference.</a> Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2019 Sep;29(9):1428-1436. doi: 10.1111/sms.13491. </li><li>Lohse KR, Sainani KL, Taylor JA, Butson ML, Knight EJ, Vickers AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32589653/">Systematic review of the use of "magnitude-based inference" in sports science and medicine.</a> PLoS One. 2020 Jun 26;15(6):e0235318. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0235318. </li><li>Wasserstein, R.L. and Lazar, N.A., 2016. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00031305.2016.1154108">The ASA statement on p-values: context, process, and purpose.</a> <em>The American Statistician</em>, <em>70</em>(2), pp.129-133.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro &amp; claim of the episode</li>
<li>(01:00) - Why p-values matter in science</li>
<li>(02:44) - What is a p-value? (ESP guessing game)</li>
<li>(06:47) - Big vs. small p-values (psychic octopus example)</li>
<li>(08:29) - Significance thresholds and the 0.05 rule</li>
<li>(09:00) - Regina’s Nature paper on p-values</li>
<li>(11:32) - Misconceptions about p-values</li>
<li>(13:18) - Fisher vs. Neyman-Pearson (history &amp; feud)</li>
<li>(16:26) - Botox analogy and type I vs. type II errors</li>
<li>(19:41) - Dating app analogies for false positives/negatives</li>
<li>(22:02) - How the 0.05 cutoff got enshrined</li>
<li>(24:43) - Misinterpretations: statistical vs. practical significance</li>
<li>(26:19) - Effect size, sample size, and “statistically discernible”</li>
<li>(26:48) - P-hacking and researcher degrees of freedom</li>
<li>(29:49) - Transparency, preregistration, and open science</li>
<li>(30:55) - The 0.05 cutoff trap (p = 0.049 vs 0.051)</li>
<li>(31:21) - The biggest misinterpretation: what p-values actually mean</li>
<li>(33:32) - Paul the psychic octopus (worked example)</li>
<li>(36:02) - Why Bayesian statistics differ</li>
<li>(39:52) - Why aren’t we all Bayesian? (probability wars)</li>
<li>(41:08) - The ASA p-value statement (behind the scenes)</li>
<li>(43:19) - Key principles from the ASA white paper</li>
<li>(44:18) - Wrapping up Regina’s paper</li>
<li>(45:36) - Kristin’s paper on sports science (MBI)</li>
<li>(48:13) - What MBI is and how it spread</li>
<li>(50:46) - How Kristin got pulled in (Christie Aschwanden &amp; FiveThirtyEight)</li>
<li>(54:08) - Critiques of MBI and “Bayesian monster” rebuttal</li>
<li>(56:17) - Spreadsheet autopsies (Welsh &amp; Knight)</li>
<li>(58:08) - Cherry juice example (why MBI misleads)</li>
<li>(01:00:25) - Rebuttals and smoke &amp; mirrors from MBI advocates</li>
<li>(01:02:58) - Winner’s Curse and small samples</li>
<li>(01:03:41) - Twitter fights &amp; “establishment statistician”</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Cult-like following &amp; Matrix red pill analogy</li>
<li>(01:08:09) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>P-values show up in almost every scientific paper, yet they’re one of the most misunderstood ideas in statistics. In this episode, we break from our usual journal-club format to unpack what a p-value really is, why researchers have fought about it for a century, and how that famous 0.05 cutoff became enshrined in science. Along the way, we share stories from our own papers—from a Nature feature that helped reshape the debate to a statistical sleuthing project that uncovered a faulty method in sports science. The result: a behind-the-scenes look at how one statistical tool has shaped the culture of science itself.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Bayesian statistics</li><li>Confidence intervals </li><li>Effect size vs. statistical significance</li><li>Fisher’s conception of p-values</li><li>Frequentist perspective</li><li>Magnitude-Based Inference (MBI)</li><li>Multiple testing / multiple comparisons</li><li>Neyman-Pearson hypothesis testing framework</li><li>P-hacking</li><li>Posterior probabilities</li><li>Preregistration and registered reports</li><li>Prior probabilities</li><li>P-values</li><li>Researcher degrees of freedom</li><li>Significance thresholds (p &lt; 0.05)</li><li>Simulation-based inference</li><li>Statistical power </li><li>Statistical significance</li><li>Transparency in research </li><li>Type I error (false positive)</li><li>Type II error (false negative)</li><li>Winner’s Curse</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li>“​​If p-values tell us the probability the null is true, then octopuses are psychic.”</li><li>“Statistical tools don't fool us, blind faith in them does.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo R. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24522584/">Scientific method: statistical errors.</a> Nature. 2014 Feb 13;506(7487):150-2. doi: 10.1038/506150a. </li><li>Nuzzo, R., 2015. <a href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-perturbed-by-loss-of-stat-tools-to-sift-research-fudge-from-fact/">Scientists perturbed by loss of stat tools to sift research fudge from fact</a>. <em>Scientific American</em>, pp.16-18.</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25724848/">The inverse fallacy and interpreting P values</a>. PM&amp;R. 2015 Mar;7(3):311-4. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2015.02.011. Epub 2015 Feb 25. </li><li>Nuzzo, R., 2015. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/S0262407915604973">Probability wars</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>, <em>225</em>(3012), pp.38-41.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19769922/">Putting P values in perspective</a>. PM&amp;R. 2009 Sep;1(9):873-7. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2009.07.003.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22732155/">Clinical versus statistical significance</a>. PM&amp;R. 2012 Jun;4(6):442-5. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.04.014.</li><li>McLaughlin MJ, Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24769263/">Bonferroni, Holm, and Hochberg corrections: fun names, serious changes to p values.</a> PM&amp;R. 2014 Jun;6(6):544-6. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2014.04.006. Epub 2014 Apr 22. </li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29683920/">The Problem with "Magnitude-based Inference".</a> Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2018 Oct;50(10):2166-2176. doi: 10.1249/MSS.0000000000001645. </li><li>Sainani KL, Lohse KR, Jones PR, Vickers A. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6684445/">Magnitude-based Inference is not Bayesian and is not a valid method of inference.</a> Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2019 Sep;29(9):1428-1436. doi: 10.1111/sms.13491. </li><li>Lohse KR, Sainani KL, Taylor JA, Butson ML, Knight EJ, Vickers AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32589653/">Systematic review of the use of "magnitude-based inference" in sports science and medicine.</a> PLoS One. 2020 Jun 26;15(6):e0235318. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0235318. </li><li>Wasserstein, R.L. and Lazar, N.A., 2016. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00031305.2016.1154108">The ASA statement on p-values: context, process, and purpose.</a> <em>The American Statistician</em>, <em>70</em>(2), pp.129-133.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro &amp; claim of the episode</li>
<li>(01:00) - Why p-values matter in science</li>
<li>(02:44) - What is a p-value? (ESP guessing game)</li>
<li>(06:47) - Big vs. small p-values (psychic octopus example)</li>
<li>(08:29) - Significance thresholds and the 0.05 rule</li>
<li>(09:00) - Regina’s Nature paper on p-values</li>
<li>(11:32) - Misconceptions about p-values</li>
<li>(13:18) - Fisher vs. Neyman-Pearson (history &amp; feud)</li>
<li>(16:26) - Botox analogy and type I vs. type II errors</li>
<li>(19:41) - Dating app analogies for false positives/negatives</li>
<li>(22:02) - How the 0.05 cutoff got enshrined</li>
<li>(24:43) - Misinterpretations: statistical vs. practical significance</li>
<li>(26:19) - Effect size, sample size, and “statistically discernible”</li>
<li>(26:48) - P-hacking and researcher degrees of freedom</li>
<li>(29:49) - Transparency, preregistration, and open science</li>
<li>(30:55) - The 0.05 cutoff trap (p = 0.049 vs 0.051)</li>
<li>(31:21) - The biggest misinterpretation: what p-values actually mean</li>
<li>(33:32) - Paul the psychic octopus (worked example)</li>
<li>(36:02) - Why Bayesian statistics differ</li>
<li>(39:52) - Why aren’t we all Bayesian? (probability wars)</li>
<li>(41:08) - The ASA p-value statement (behind the scenes)</li>
<li>(43:19) - Key principles from the ASA white paper</li>
<li>(44:18) - Wrapping up Regina’s paper</li>
<li>(45:36) - Kristin’s paper on sports science (MBI)</li>
<li>(48:13) - What MBI is and how it spread</li>
<li>(50:46) - How Kristin got pulled in (Christie Aschwanden &amp; FiveThirtyEight)</li>
<li>(54:08) - Critiques of MBI and “Bayesian monster” rebuttal</li>
<li>(56:17) - Spreadsheet autopsies (Welsh &amp; Knight)</li>
<li>(58:08) - Cherry juice example (why MBI misleads)</li>
<li>(01:00:25) - Rebuttals and smoke &amp; mirrors from MBI advocates</li>
<li>(01:02:58) - Winner’s Curse and small samples</li>
<li>(01:03:41) - Twitter fights &amp; “establishment statistician”</li>
<li>(01:05:59) - Cult-like following &amp; Matrix red pill analogy</li>
<li>(01:08:09) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul><p><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Exercise and Cancer: Does physical activity improve colon cancer survival?</title>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>16</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Exercise and Cancer: Does physical activity improve colon cancer survival?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Exercise has long been hailed as cancer-fighting magic, but is there hard evidence behind the hype? In this episode, we tackle the CHALLENGE trial, a large phase III study of colon cancer patients that tested whether prescribed exercise could improve cancer-free survival. We translate clinical jargon into plain English, show why ratio statistics make splashy headlines while absolute differences tell the real story, and take a detour into why statisticians think survival analysis is downright sexy. And we even bring in a classic reality show to make sense of the numbers.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Data and Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB)</li><li>Hazard ratios</li><li>Intention-to-treat analysis</li><li>Interim analyses</li><li>Kaplan-Meier curves</li><li>Phase III trials</li><li>Randomized clinical trial</li><li>Rates and rate ratios</li><li>Relative vs absolute differences</li><li>Stratified randomization with minimization</li><li>Survival analysis</li><li>Time-to-event variables</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li><em>“Ratio statistics sell headlines. Absolute differences sell truth.”</em></li><li><em>“Survival analysis is this sexy stats tool that makes every moment and every Cox count.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Courneya KS, Vardy JL, O'Callaghan CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2502760">Structured Exercise after Adjuvant Chemotherapy for Colon Cancer</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2025;393:13-25. </li><li>Rabin RC. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/health/running-colon-cancer.html">Are Marathons and Extreme Running Linked to Colon Cancer?</a> <em>The New York Times.</em> Aug 19, 2025.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.04.003">Introduction to survival analysis</a>. <em>PM&amp;R</em>. 2016;  8:580-85.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2010.01.004">Making sense of intention-to-treat</a>. <em>PM&amp;R.</em> 2010;2:209-13.</li></ul><p><strong><br>Thanks</strong></p><p>Thanks to <em>Caitlin Goodrich </em>for the episode topic tip!<br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:42) - Two different types of cancer studies</li>
<li>(08:12) - Why might exercise affect cancer?</li>
<li>(10:05) - Phase III trials are different</li>
<li>(12:40) - Who was in the CHALLENGE trial?</li>
<li>(13:31) - Stratified randomization with minimization </li>
<li>(15:05) - The exercise prescription</li>
<li>(19:20) - What did the CHALLENGE trial measure?</li>
<li>(20:07) - Disease-free survival</li>
<li>(22:02) - Data and Safety Monitoring Board – what do they do?</li>
<li>(24:38) - Participants and adherence to exercise</li>
<li>(26:57) - Intention-to-treat analysis</li>
<li>(30:01) - Survival analysis overview</li>
<li>(31:54) - Kaplan-Meier curves</li>
<li>(34:30) - Reality-show analogy</li>
<li>(36:57) - Ratio statistics are confusing</li>
<li>(39:33) - Hazard ratios </li>
<li>(47:06) - Wrap-up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
</ul><br>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Exercise has long been hailed as cancer-fighting magic, but is there hard evidence behind the hype? In this episode, we tackle the CHALLENGE trial, a large phase III study of colon cancer patients that tested whether prescribed exercise could improve cancer-free survival. We translate clinical jargon into plain English, show why ratio statistics make splashy headlines while absolute differences tell the real story, and take a detour into why statisticians think survival analysis is downright sexy. And we even bring in a classic reality show to make sense of the numbers.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Data and Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB)</li><li>Hazard ratios</li><li>Intention-to-treat analysis</li><li>Interim analyses</li><li>Kaplan-Meier curves</li><li>Phase III trials</li><li>Randomized clinical trial</li><li>Rates and rate ratios</li><li>Relative vs absolute differences</li><li>Stratified randomization with minimization</li><li>Survival analysis</li><li>Time-to-event variables</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li><em>“Ratio statistics sell headlines. Absolute differences sell truth.”</em></li><li><em>“Survival analysis is this sexy stats tool that makes every moment and every Cox count.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Courneya KS, Vardy JL, O'Callaghan CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2502760">Structured Exercise after Adjuvant Chemotherapy for Colon Cancer</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2025;393:13-25. </li><li>Rabin RC. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/health/running-colon-cancer.html">Are Marathons and Extreme Running Linked to Colon Cancer?</a> <em>The New York Times.</em> Aug 19, 2025.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.04.003">Introduction to survival analysis</a>. <em>PM&amp;R</em>. 2016;  8:580-85.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2010.01.004">Making sense of intention-to-treat</a>. <em>PM&amp;R.</em> 2010;2:209-13.</li></ul><p><strong><br>Thanks</strong></p><p>Thanks to <em>Caitlin Goodrich </em>for the episode topic tip!<br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:42) - Two different types of cancer studies</li>
<li>(08:12) - Why might exercise affect cancer?</li>
<li>(10:05) - Phase III trials are different</li>
<li>(12:40) - Who was in the CHALLENGE trial?</li>
<li>(13:31) - Stratified randomization with minimization </li>
<li>(15:05) - The exercise prescription</li>
<li>(19:20) - What did the CHALLENGE trial measure?</li>
<li>(20:07) - Disease-free survival</li>
<li>(22:02) - Data and Safety Monitoring Board – what do they do?</li>
<li>(24:38) - Participants and adherence to exercise</li>
<li>(26:57) - Intention-to-treat analysis</li>
<li>(30:01) - Survival analysis overview</li>
<li>(31:54) - Kaplan-Meier curves</li>
<li>(34:30) - Reality-show analogy</li>
<li>(36:57) - Ratio statistics are confusing</li>
<li>(39:33) - Hazard ratios </li>
<li>(47:06) - Wrap-up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Exercise has long been hailed as cancer-fighting magic, but is there hard evidence behind the hype? In this episode, we tackle the CHALLENGE trial, a large phase III study of colon cancer patients that tested whether prescribed exercise could improve cancer-free survival. We translate clinical jargon into plain English, show why ratio statistics make splashy headlines while absolute differences tell the real story, and take a detour into why statisticians think survival analysis is downright sexy. And we even bring in a classic reality show to make sense of the numbers.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Data and Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB)</li><li>Hazard ratios</li><li>Intention-to-treat analysis</li><li>Interim analyses</li><li>Kaplan-Meier curves</li><li>Phase III trials</li><li>Randomized clinical trial</li><li>Rates and rate ratios</li><li>Relative vs absolute differences</li><li>Stratified randomization with minimization</li><li>Survival analysis</li><li>Time-to-event variables</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li><em>“Ratio statistics sell headlines. Absolute differences sell truth.”</em></li><li><em>“Survival analysis is this sexy stats tool that makes every moment and every Cox count.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Courneya KS, Vardy JL, O'Callaghan CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2502760">Structured Exercise after Adjuvant Chemotherapy for Colon Cancer</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2025;393:13-25. </li><li>Rabin RC. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/health/running-colon-cancer.html">Are Marathons and Extreme Running Linked to Colon Cancer?</a> <em>The New York Times.</em> Aug 19, 2025.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.04.003">Introduction to survival analysis</a>. <em>PM&amp;R</em>. 2016;  8:580-85.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2010.01.004">Making sense of intention-to-treat</a>. <em>PM&amp;R.</em> 2010;2:209-13.</li></ul><p><strong><br>Thanks</strong></p><p>Thanks to <em>Caitlin Goodrich </em>for the episode topic tip!<br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p>Programs that we teach in:</p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(05:42) - Two different types of cancer studies</li>
<li>(08:12) - Why might exercise affect cancer?</li>
<li>(10:05) - Phase III trials are different</li>
<li>(12:40) - Who was in the CHALLENGE trial?</li>
<li>(13:31) - Stratified randomization with minimization </li>
<li>(15:05) - The exercise prescription</li>
<li>(19:20) - What did the CHALLENGE trial measure?</li>
<li>(20:07) - Disease-free survival</li>
<li>(22:02) - Data and Safety Monitoring Board – what do they do?</li>
<li>(24:38) - Participants and adherence to exercise</li>
<li>(26:57) - Intention-to-treat analysis</li>
<li>(30:01) - Survival analysis overview</li>
<li>(31:54) - Kaplan-Meier curves</li>
<li>(34:30) - Reality-show analogy</li>
<li>(36:57) - Ratio statistics are confusing</li>
<li>(39:33) - Hazard ratios </li>
<li>(47:06) - Wrap-up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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      <title>Age Gaps: How much does age matter in dating?</title>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Are we all secretly ageist when it comes to dating? We put the stereotype that older men prefer younger women under the microscope using data from thousands of blind dates. What we found surprised us: the “age penalty” was real but microscopic, women wanted younger partners too, and hard age cutoffs weren’t so hard after all. Along the way, we unpack statistical significance versus practical importance, play with the infamous “half your age plus seven” rule, and imagine what it would take for love to die out… somewhere around age 628.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Discontinuous regression</li><li>Effect sizes</li><li>Extrapolation pitfalls</li><li>Linear regression</li><li>Logistic regression</li><li>Odds ratios</li><li>Open data</li><li>Statistical significance vs. practical significance</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>“<em>Do not be swept off your feet by statistical significance. Tiny effects in bed are still tiny.</em>”</li><li>“<em>Fancy units sound smart, but plain English wins hearts</em>.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZM9mka0JJLlJTKBC2BLGRIRqDFk9kEGVyfijC-CLoZg/edit?usp=sharing">Show Notes Technical Appendix</a> (with step-by-step explanations)</p><p><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Eastwick PW, Finkel EJ, Meza EM, Ammerman K. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39869809/">No gender differences in attraction to young partners: A study of 4500 blind dates.</a> Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2025 Feb 4;122(5):e2416984122. </li><li><a href="https://osf.io/rkm2d/?view_only=a0fe91dae0464077af7772e6890a8151">Matchmaking Dataset and Code</a> on Open Science Framework: https://osf.io/rkm2d/?view_only=a0fe91dae0464077af7772e6890a8151</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/pmrj.12761">Communicating measures of relative risk in plain English</a>. PM&amp;R. 2022 Feb;14(2):283-7.</li><li>O'Rell, Max. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33285/33285-h/33285-h.htm"><em>Her Royal Highness, Woman: And His Majesty--Cupid</em></a>. Abbey Press, 1901.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1016/j.pmrj.2014.10.006">Logistic regression</a>. PM&amp;R. 2014 Dec;6(12):1157-62.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2011.01.009">Understanding odds ratios</a>. PM&amp;R. 2011 Mar;3:263-7. </li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.04.014">Clinical versus statistical significance</a>. PM&amp;R. 2012 Jun;4:442-5.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:01) - Half-your-age-plus-seven rule</li>
<li>(09:15) - Matchmaking service for the study</li>
<li>(18:02) - Blind dates as natural experiments</li>
<li>(22:52) - Regression results part 1: Age penalties?</li>
<li>(29:35) - Wait, how big of an effect was that?</li>
<li>(35:06) - Odds ratio of a second date</li>
<li>(38:58) - Surprising age pair-ups</li>
<li>(41:50) - Regression results part 2: Deal-breaking age limits?</li>
<li>(45:24) - Why the patterns may or may not be true</li>
<li>(47:27) - Wrap-up, ratings, and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Are we all secretly ageist when it comes to dating? We put the stereotype that older men prefer younger women under the microscope using data from thousands of blind dates. What we found surprised us: the “age penalty” was real but microscopic, women wanted younger partners too, and hard age cutoffs weren’t so hard after all. Along the way, we unpack statistical significance versus practical importance, play with the infamous “half your age plus seven” rule, and imagine what it would take for love to die out… somewhere around age 628.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Discontinuous regression</li><li>Effect sizes</li><li>Extrapolation pitfalls</li><li>Linear regression</li><li>Logistic regression</li><li>Odds ratios</li><li>Open data</li><li>Statistical significance vs. practical significance</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>“<em>Do not be swept off your feet by statistical significance. Tiny effects in bed are still tiny.</em>”</li><li>“<em>Fancy units sound smart, but plain English wins hearts</em>.”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZM9mka0JJLlJTKBC2BLGRIRqDFk9kEGVyfijC-CLoZg/edit?usp=sharing">Show Notes Technical Appendix</a> (with step-by-step explanations)</p><p><strong>References<br></strong><br></p><ul><li>Eastwick PW, Finkel EJ, Meza EM, Ammerman K. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39869809/">No gender differences in attraction to young partners: A study of 4500 blind dates.</a> Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2025 Feb 4;122(5):e2416984122. </li><li><a href="https://osf.io/rkm2d/?view_only=a0fe91dae0464077af7772e6890a8151">Matchmaking Dataset and Code</a> on Open Science Framework: https://osf.io/rkm2d/?view_only=a0fe91dae0464077af7772e6890a8151</li><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/pmrj.12761">Communicating measures of relative risk in plain English</a>. PM&amp;R. 2022 Feb;14(2):283-7.</li><li>O'Rell, Max. <a href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/33285/33285-h/33285-h.htm"><em>Her Royal Highness, Woman: And His Majesty--Cupid</em></a>. Abbey Press, 1901.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1016/j.pmrj.2014.10.006">Logistic regression</a>. PM&amp;R. 2014 Dec;6(12):1157-62.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2011.01.009">Understanding odds ratios</a>. PM&amp;R. 2011 Mar;3:263-7. </li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1016/j.pmrj.2012.04.014">Clinical versus statistical significance</a>. PM&amp;R. 2012 Jun;4:442-5.</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> </a><a href="http://reginanuzzo.com">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:01) - Half-your-age-plus-seven rule</li>
<li>(09:15) - Matchmaking service for the study</li>
<li>(18:02) - Blind dates as natural experiments</li>
<li>(22:52) - Regression results part 1: Age penalties?</li>
<li>(29:35) - Wait, how big of an effect was that?</li>
<li>(35:06) - Odds ratio of a second date</li>
<li>(38:58) - Surprising age pair-ups</li>
<li>(41:50) - Regression results part 2: Deal-breaking age limits?</li>
<li>(45:24) - Why the patterns may or may not be true</li>
<li>(47:27) - Wrap-up, ratings, and methodological morals</li>
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<li>(04:01) - Half-your-age-plus-seven rule</li>
<li>(09:15) - Matchmaking service for the study</li>
<li>(18:02) - Blind dates as natural experiments</li>
<li>(22:52) - Regression results part 1: Age penalties?</li>
<li>(29:35) - Wait, how big of an effect was that?</li>
<li>(35:06) - Odds ratio of a second date</li>
<li>(38:58) - Surprising age pair-ups</li>
<li>(41:50) - Regression results part 2: Deal-breaking age limits?</li>
<li>(45:24) - Why the patterns may or may not be true</li>
<li>(47:27) - Wrap-up, ratings, and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ChatGPT is melting our brainpower, killing creativity, and making us soulless — or so the headlines imply.<strong> </strong>We dig into the study behind the claims, starting with quirky bar charts and mysterious sample sizes, then winding through hairball-like brain diagrams and tens of thousands of statistical tests. Our statistical sleuthing leaves us with questions, not just about the results, but about whether this was science’s version of a first date that looked better on paper.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>ANOVA</li><li>Bar graphs</li><li>Data visualization </li><li>False Discovery Rate correction</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Preprints</li><li>Statistical Sleuthing</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>"Treat your preprints like your blind dates. Show up showered and with teeth brushed."</em></li><li><em>"Always check your N. Then check it again."</em></li><li><em>"Never make a bar graph that just shows p-values. Ever."</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872"><strong>Link to paper</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a></li></ul><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:46) - Media coverage of the study</li>
<li>(08:35) - The experiment</li>
<li>(12:09) - Sample size issues</li>
<li>(13:11) - Bar chart sleuthing</li>
<li>(19:15) - Blind date analogy</li>
<li>(23:54) - Interview results</li>
<li>(30:04) - Simple text analysis results</li>
<li>(34:04) - Natural language processing results</li>
<li>(41:00) - N-gram and ontology analysis results</li>
<li>(45:55) - Teacher evaluation results</li>
<li>(52:30) - Neuroimaging analysis</li>
<li>(01:00:32) - Multiple testing and connectivity issues</li>
<li>(01:06:10) - Brain adaptation results</li>
<li>(01:09:47) - Wrap-up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ChatGPT is melting our brainpower, killing creativity, and making us soulless — or so the headlines imply.<strong> </strong>We dig into the study behind the claims, starting with quirky bar charts and mysterious sample sizes, then winding through hairball-like brain diagrams and tens of thousands of statistical tests. Our statistical sleuthing leaves us with questions, not just about the results, but about whether this was science’s version of a first date that looked better on paper.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>ANOVA</li><li>Bar graphs</li><li>Data visualization </li><li>False Discovery Rate correction</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Preprints</li><li>Statistical Sleuthing</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>"Treat your preprints like your blind dates. Show up showered and with teeth brushed."</em></li><li><em>"Always check your N. Then check it again."</em></li><li><em>"Never make a bar graph that just shows p-values. Ever."</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872"><strong>Link to paper</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a></li></ul><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:46) - Media coverage of the study</li>
<li>(08:35) - The experiment</li>
<li>(12:09) - Sample size issues</li>
<li>(13:11) - Bar chart sleuthing</li>
<li>(19:15) - Blind date analogy</li>
<li>(23:54) - Interview results</li>
<li>(30:04) - Simple text analysis results</li>
<li>(34:04) - Natural language processing results</li>
<li>(41:00) - N-gram and ontology analysis results</li>
<li>(45:55) - Teacher evaluation results</li>
<li>(52:30) - Neuroimaging analysis</li>
<li>(01:00:32) - Multiple testing and connectivity issues</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ChatGPT is melting our brainpower, killing creativity, and making us soulless — or so the headlines imply.<strong> </strong>We dig into the study behind the claims, starting with quirky bar charts and mysterious sample sizes, then winding through hairball-like brain diagrams and tens of thousands of statistical tests. Our statistical sleuthing leaves us with questions, not just about the results, but about whether this was science’s version of a first date that looked better on paper.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>ANOVA</li><li>Bar graphs</li><li>Data visualization </li><li>False Discovery Rate correction</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Preprints</li><li>Statistical Sleuthing</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>"Treat your preprints like your blind dates. Show up showered and with teeth brushed."</em></li><li><em>"Always check your N. Then check it again."</em></li><li><em>"Never make a bar graph that just shows p-values. Ever."</em></li></ul><p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872"><strong>Link to paper</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a></li></ul><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(03:46) - Media coverage of the study</li>
<li>(08:35) - The experiment</li>
<li>(12:09) - Sample size issues</li>
<li>(13:11) - Bar chart sleuthing</li>
<li>(19:15) - Blind date analogy</li>
<li>(23:54) - Interview results</li>
<li>(30:04) - Simple text analysis results</li>
<li>(34:04) - Natural language processing results</li>
<li>(41:00) - N-gram and ontology analysis results</li>
<li>(45:55) - Teacher evaluation results</li>
<li>(52:30) - Neuroimaging analysis</li>
<li>(01:00:32) - Multiple testing and connectivity issues</li>
<li>(01:06:10) - Brain adaptation results</li>
<li>(01:09:47) - Wrap-up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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      <title>The Backfire Effect: Can fact-checking make false beliefs stronger?</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can correcting misinformation make it worse? The “backfire effect” claims that debunking myths can actually make false beliefs stronger. We dig into the evidence — from ghost studies to headline-making experiments — to see if this psychological plot twist really holds up. Along the way, we unpack interaction effects, randomization red flags, and what happens when bad citations take on a life of their own. Plus: dirty talk analogies, statistical sleuthing, and why “familiarity” might be your brain’s sneakiest trick.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Computational replication</li><li>Replication</li><li>Block randomization</li><li>Problems in randomization</li><li>Bad citing</li><li>Interactions in regression</li></ul><p><br><strong>Unpublished "Ghost Paper"</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l80_5rPUhdSWsnurKc1AiUh3MK3gf1vN/view?usp=sharing"><strong>PDF retrieved from the Wayback Machine</strong></a></li></ul><p><strong><br></strong><br><strong>Citations</strong></p><ul><li>Nyhan B, Reifler J.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-010-9112-2"> When corrections fail: The persistence of political misperceptions</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2010;32:303–330.</li><li>Skurnik I, Yoon C, Schwarz N. “Myths &amp; Facts” about the flu: Health education campaigns can reduce vaccination intentions. <em>Unpublished manuscript, PDF posted separately.</em></li><li>Schwarz N, Sanna LJ, Skurnik I, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S006526010639003X"> Metacognitive experiences and the intricacies of setting people straight: Implications for debiasing and public information campaigns</a>. <em>Advances in Experimental Social Psychology</em>. 2007;39:127–61.</li><li>Lewandowsky S, Ecker UKH, Seifert CM, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26173286/">Misinformation and its correction: Continued influence and successful debiasing</a>. <em>Psychological Science in the Public Interest</em>. 2012;13:106–131.</li><li>Pluviano S, Watt C, Della Sala S. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5547702/">Misinformation lingers in memory: Failure of three pro-vaccination strategies</a>. <em>PLOS ONE</em>. 2017;12:e0181640.</li><li>Pluviano S, Watt C, Ragazzini G, et al.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10339-019-00919-w"> Parents’ beliefs in misinformation about vaccines are strengthened by pro‑vaccine campaigns</a>. <em>Cognitive Processing</em>. 2019;20:325–31.</li><li>Wood T, Porter E.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-018-9443-y"> The elusive backfire effect: Mass attitudes’ steadfast factual adherence</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2019;41:135–63.</li><li>Nyhan B, Porter E, Reifler J, Wood TJ.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-019-09528-x"> Taking fact-checks literally but not seriously? The effects of journalistic fact-checking on factual beliefs and candidate favorability</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2020;42:939–60.</li><li>Ecker UKH, Hogan JL, Lewandowsky S.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211368116301838"> Reminders and repetition of misinformation: Helping or hindering its retraction?</a> <em>Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition</em>. 2017;6:185–92.</li><li>Swire B, Ecker UKH, Lewandowsky S.<a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/xlm0000422"> The role of familiarity in correcting inaccurate information</a>. <em>Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition</em>. 2017;43:1948–61.</li><li>Ecker UKH, O’Donnell M, Ang LC, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7004143/">The effectiveness of short- and long-format retractions on misinformation belief and recall</a>. <em>British Journal of Psychology</em>. 2020;111:36–54.</li><li>Ecker UKH, Sharkey CXM, Swire-Thompson B. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10096191/">Correcting vaccine misinformation: A failure to replicate familiarity or fear-driven backfire effects</a>. <em>PLOS ONE</em>. 2023;18:e0281140.</li><li>Cook J, Lewandowsky S.<a href="http://sks.to/debunk"> The Debunking Handbook</a>. University of Queensland. 2011.</li><li>Lewandowsky S, Cook J, Ecker UKH, et al.<a href="https://climatecommunication.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/DebunkingHandbook2020.pdf"> The Debunking Handbook 2020</a>. Available at https://sks.to/db2020. </li><li>Swire‑Thompson B, DeGutis J, Lazer D.<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7462781/"> Searching for the backfire effect: Measurement and design considerations</a>. <em>Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition</em>. 2020;9:286–99.<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - </li>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:05) - What is the backfire effect?</li>
<li>(03:55) - The 2010 paper that panicked fact-checkers</li>
<li>(06:25) - The ghost paper what it really said</li>
<li>(12:35) - Study design of the 2010 paper</li>
<li>(19:22) - Results of the 2010 paper</li>
<li>(20:52) - Crossover interactions, regression models, and intimate talk</li>
<li>(26:21) - Missing data and cleaning your bedroom analogy</li>
<li>(29:08) - Fact-checking the fact-checking paper</li>
<li>(34:04) - Replication and pushing the data to the limit</li>
<li>(37:56) - The purported backfire effect spreads</li>
<li>(42:03) - The 2017 paper that got a lot of attention</li>
<li>(45:22) - Statistical sleuthing the 2017 paper</li>
<li>(49:48) - Will researchers double down on their earlier conclusions?</li>
<li>(55:43) - A review paper sums it all up</li>
<li>(56:57) - Wrap up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can correcting misinformation make it worse? The “backfire effect” claims that debunking myths can actually make false beliefs stronger. We dig into the evidence — from ghost studies to headline-making experiments — to see if this psychological plot twist really holds up. Along the way, we unpack interaction effects, randomization red flags, and what happens when bad citations take on a life of their own. Plus: dirty talk analogies, statistical sleuthing, and why “familiarity” might be your brain’s sneakiest trick.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Computational replication</li><li>Replication</li><li>Block randomization</li><li>Problems in randomization</li><li>Bad citing</li><li>Interactions in regression</li></ul><p><br><strong>Unpublished "Ghost Paper"</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l80_5rPUhdSWsnurKc1AiUh3MK3gf1vN/view?usp=sharing"><strong>PDF retrieved from the Wayback Machine</strong></a></li></ul><p><strong><br></strong><br><strong>Citations</strong></p><ul><li>Nyhan B, Reifler J.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-010-9112-2"> When corrections fail: The persistence of political misperceptions</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2010;32:303–330.</li><li>Skurnik I, Yoon C, Schwarz N. “Myths &amp; Facts” about the flu: Health education campaigns can reduce vaccination intentions. <em>Unpublished manuscript, PDF posted separately.</em></li><li>Schwarz N, Sanna LJ, Skurnik I, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S006526010639003X"> Metacognitive experiences and the intricacies of setting people straight: Implications for debiasing and public information campaigns</a>. <em>Advances in Experimental Social Psychology</em>. 2007;39:127–61.</li><li>Lewandowsky S, Ecker UKH, Seifert CM, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26173286/">Misinformation and its correction: Continued influence and successful debiasing</a>. <em>Psychological Science in the Public Interest</em>. 2012;13:106–131.</li><li>Pluviano S, Watt C, Della Sala S. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5547702/">Misinformation lingers in memory: Failure of three pro-vaccination strategies</a>. <em>PLOS ONE</em>. 2017;12:e0181640.</li><li>Pluviano S, Watt C, Ragazzini G, et al.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10339-019-00919-w"> Parents’ beliefs in misinformation about vaccines are strengthened by pro‑vaccine campaigns</a>. <em>Cognitive Processing</em>. 2019;20:325–31.</li><li>Wood T, Porter E.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-018-9443-y"> The elusive backfire effect: Mass attitudes’ steadfast factual adherence</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2019;41:135–63.</li><li>Nyhan B, Porter E, Reifler J, Wood TJ.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-019-09528-x"> Taking fact-checks literally but not seriously? The effects of journalistic fact-checking on factual beliefs and candidate favorability</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2020;42:939–60.</li><li>Ecker UKH, Hogan JL, Lewandowsky S.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211368116301838"> Reminders and repetition of misinformation: Helping or hindering its retraction?</a> <em>Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition</em>. 2017;6:185–92.</li><li>Swire B, Ecker UKH, Lewandowsky S.<a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/xlm0000422"> The role of familiarity in correcting inaccurate information</a>. <em>Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition</em>. 2017;43:1948–61.</li><li>Ecker UKH, O’Donnell M, Ang LC, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7004143/">The effectiveness of short- and long-format retractions on misinformation belief and recall</a>. <em>British Journal of Psychology</em>. 2020;111:36–54.</li><li>Ecker UKH, Sharkey CXM, Swire-Thompson B. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10096191/">Correcting vaccine misinformation: A failure to replicate familiarity or fear-driven backfire effects</a>. <em>PLOS ONE</em>. 2023;18:e0281140.</li><li>Cook J, Lewandowsky S.<a href="http://sks.to/debunk"> The Debunking Handbook</a>. University of Queensland. 2011.</li><li>Lewandowsky S, Cook J, Ecker UKH, et al.<a href="https://climatecommunication.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/DebunkingHandbook2020.pdf"> The Debunking Handbook 2020</a>. Available at https://sks.to/db2020. </li><li>Swire‑Thompson B, DeGutis J, Lazer D.<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7462781/"> Searching for the backfire effect: Measurement and design considerations</a>. <em>Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition</em>. 2020;9:286–99.<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - </li>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:05) - What is the backfire effect?</li>
<li>(03:55) - The 2010 paper that panicked fact-checkers</li>
<li>(06:25) - The ghost paper what it really said</li>
<li>(12:35) - Study design of the 2010 paper</li>
<li>(19:22) - Results of the 2010 paper</li>
<li>(20:52) - Crossover interactions, regression models, and intimate talk</li>
<li>(26:21) - Missing data and cleaning your bedroom analogy</li>
<li>(29:08) - Fact-checking the fact-checking paper</li>
<li>(34:04) - Replication and pushing the data to the limit</li>
<li>(37:56) - The purported backfire effect spreads</li>
<li>(42:03) - The 2017 paper that got a lot of attention</li>
<li>(45:22) - Statistical sleuthing the 2017 paper</li>
<li>(49:48) - Will researchers double down on their earlier conclusions?</li>
<li>(55:43) - A review paper sums it all up</li>
<li>(56:57) - Wrap up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can correcting misinformation make it worse? The “backfire effect” claims that debunking myths can actually make false beliefs stronger. We dig into the evidence — from ghost studies to headline-making experiments — to see if this psychological plot twist really holds up. Along the way, we unpack interaction effects, randomization red flags, and what happens when bad citations take on a life of their own. Plus: dirty talk analogies, statistical sleuthing, and why “familiarity” might be your brain’s sneakiest trick.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Computational replication</li><li>Replication</li><li>Block randomization</li><li>Problems in randomization</li><li>Bad citing</li><li>Interactions in regression</li></ul><p><br><strong>Unpublished "Ghost Paper"</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l80_5rPUhdSWsnurKc1AiUh3MK3gf1vN/view?usp=sharing"><strong>PDF retrieved from the Wayback Machine</strong></a></li></ul><p><strong><br></strong><br><strong>Citations</strong></p><ul><li>Nyhan B, Reifler J.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-010-9112-2"> When corrections fail: The persistence of political misperceptions</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2010;32:303–330.</li><li>Skurnik I, Yoon C, Schwarz N. “Myths &amp; Facts” about the flu: Health education campaigns can reduce vaccination intentions. <em>Unpublished manuscript, PDF posted separately.</em></li><li>Schwarz N, Sanna LJ, Skurnik I, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S006526010639003X"> Metacognitive experiences and the intricacies of setting people straight: Implications for debiasing and public information campaigns</a>. <em>Advances in Experimental Social Psychology</em>. 2007;39:127–61.</li><li>Lewandowsky S, Ecker UKH, Seifert CM, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26173286/">Misinformation and its correction: Continued influence and successful debiasing</a>. <em>Psychological Science in the Public Interest</em>. 2012;13:106–131.</li><li>Pluviano S, Watt C, Della Sala S. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5547702/">Misinformation lingers in memory: Failure of three pro-vaccination strategies</a>. <em>PLOS ONE</em>. 2017;12:e0181640.</li><li>Pluviano S, Watt C, Ragazzini G, et al.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10339-019-00919-w"> Parents’ beliefs in misinformation about vaccines are strengthened by pro‑vaccine campaigns</a>. <em>Cognitive Processing</em>. 2019;20:325–31.</li><li>Wood T, Porter E.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-018-9443-y"> The elusive backfire effect: Mass attitudes’ steadfast factual adherence</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2019;41:135–63.</li><li>Nyhan B, Porter E, Reifler J, Wood TJ.<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-019-09528-x"> Taking fact-checks literally but not seriously? The effects of journalistic fact-checking on factual beliefs and candidate favorability</a>. <em>Political Behavior</em>. 2020;42:939–60.</li><li>Ecker UKH, Hogan JL, Lewandowsky S.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211368116301838"> Reminders and repetition of misinformation: Helping or hindering its retraction?</a> <em>Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition</em>. 2017;6:185–92.</li><li>Swire B, Ecker UKH, Lewandowsky S.<a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/xlm0000422"> The role of familiarity in correcting inaccurate information</a>. <em>Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition</em>. 2017;43:1948–61.</li><li>Ecker UKH, O’Donnell M, Ang LC, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7004143/">The effectiveness of short- and long-format retractions on misinformation belief and recall</a>. <em>British Journal of Psychology</em>. 2020;111:36–54.</li><li>Ecker UKH, Sharkey CXM, Swire-Thompson B. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10096191/">Correcting vaccine misinformation: A failure to replicate familiarity or fear-driven backfire effects</a>. <em>PLOS ONE</em>. 2023;18:e0281140.</li><li>Cook J, Lewandowsky S.<a href="http://sks.to/debunk"> The Debunking Handbook</a>. University of Queensland. 2011.</li><li>Lewandowsky S, Cook J, Ecker UKH, et al.<a href="https://climatecommunication.gmu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/DebunkingHandbook2020.pdf"> The Debunking Handbook 2020</a>. Available at https://sks.to/db2020. </li><li>Swire‑Thompson B, DeGutis J, Lazer D.<a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7462781/"> Searching for the backfire effect: Measurement and design considerations</a>. <em>Journal of Applied Research in Memory and Cognition</em>. 2020;9:286–99.<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - </li>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:05) - What is the backfire effect?</li>
<li>(03:55) - The 2010 paper that panicked fact-checkers</li>
<li>(06:25) - The ghost paper what it really said</li>
<li>(12:35) - Study design of the 2010 paper</li>
<li>(19:22) - Results of the 2010 paper</li>
<li>(20:52) - Crossover interactions, regression models, and intimate talk</li>
<li>(26:21) - Missing data and cleaning your bedroom analogy</li>
<li>(29:08) - Fact-checking the fact-checking paper</li>
<li>(34:04) - Replication and pushing the data to the limit</li>
<li>(37:56) - The purported backfire effect spreads</li>
<li>(42:03) - The 2017 paper that got a lot of attention</li>
<li>(45:22) - Statistical sleuthing the 2017 paper</li>
<li>(49:48) - Will researchers double down on their earlier conclusions?</li>
<li>(55:43) - A review paper sums it all up</li>
<li>(56:57) - Wrap up, rating, and methodological morals</li>
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      <title>Dating Wishlists: Are we happier when we get what we want in a mate?</title>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Loyal, funny, hot — you’ve probably got a wish list for your dream partner. But does checking all your boxes actually lead to happily ever after? In this episode, we dive into a massive global study that put the “ideal partner” hypothesis to the test. Do people really know what they want, and does getting it actually make them happier? We explore surprising statistical insights from over 10,000 romantics in 43 countries, from mean-centering and interaction effects to the good-catch confounder. Along the way, we dig into dessert metaphors, partner boat-count regression models, and the one trait that people <em>say</em> doesn’t matter — but secretly makes them happiest.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Regression</li><li>Random Slopes and Intercepts (Random Effects) in Regression</li><li>Standardized Beta Coefficients in Regression</li><li>Interaction Effects in Regression</li><li>Mean Centering</li><li>Exploratory Analyses</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“Good science bares it all.”</em></p><p><em>“When the world isn't one size fits all, don't fit just one line; use random slopes and intercepts.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Eastwick PW, Sparks J, Finkel EJ, Meza EM, Adamkovič M, Adu P, Ai T, Akintola AA, Al-Shawaf L, Apriliawati D, Arriaga P, Aubert-Teillaud B, Baník G, Barzykowski K, Batres C, Baucom KJ, Beaulieu EZ, Behnke M, Butcher N, Charles DY, Chen JM, Cheon JE, Chittham P, Chwiłkowska P, Cong CW, Copping LT, Corral-Frias NS, Ćubela Adorić V, Dizon M, Du H, Ehinmowo MI, Escribano DA, Espinosa NM, Expósito F, Feldman G, Freitag R, Frias Armenta M, Gallyamova A, Gillath O, Gjoneska B, Gkinopoulos T, Grafe F, Grigoryev D, Groyecka-Bernard A, Gunaydin G, Ilustrisimo R, Impett E, Kačmár P, Kim YH, Kocur M, Kowal M, Krishna M, Labor PD, Lu JG, Lucas MY, Małecki WP, Malinakova K, Meißner S, Meier Z, Misiak M, Muise A, Novak L, O J, Özdoğru AA, Park HG, Paruzel M, Pavlović Z, Püski M, Ribeiro G, Roberts SC, Röer JP, Ropovik I, Ross RM, Sakman E, Salvador CE, Selcuk E, Skakoon-Sparling S, Sorokowska A, Sorokowski P, Spasovski O, Stanton SCE, Stewart SLK, Swami V, Szaszi B, Takashima K, Tavel P, Tejada J, Tu E, Tuominen J, Vaidis D, Vally Z, Vaughn LA, Villanueva-Moya L, Wisnuwardhani D, Yamada Y, Yonemitsu F, Žídková R, Živná K, Coles NA.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39480282/"> A worldwide test of the predictive validity of ideal partner preference matching</a>. J Pers Soc Psychol. 2025 Jan;128(1):123-146. doi: 10.1037/pspp0000524</li><li>Love Factually Podcast: <a href="https://www.lovefactuallypod.com/">https://www.lovefactuallypod.com/</a></li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:<br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - </li>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:57) - Actual dating profile wishlists vs study wishlists </li>
<li>(09:12) - Juicy paper details</li>
<li>(18:31) - What the study actually asked – wishlist, partner resume, relationship satisfaction</li>
<li>(25:07) - Linear regression illustrated through number of boats your partner has</li>
<li>(31:34) - Standardized regression coefficients illustrated through spouse height concordance</li>
<li>(35:49) - Good catch confounder: We all just want the same high-quality ice cream / mate</li>
<li>(40:43) - Does your personalized wishlist matter? Results</li>
<li>(42:58) - Wishlist regression interaction effects: like chocolate and peanut butter</li>
<li>(46:48) - Partner traits result in happiness bonus points</li>
<li>(50:48) - What do we say we want – and what really makes us happy? Surprise</li>
<li>(55:07) - Gender stereotypes and whether they held up</li>
<li>(57:48) - Random effects models and boats again</li>
<li>(01:00:27) - Other cool things they did</li>
<li>(01:01:38) - One-minute paper summary</li>
<li>(01:03:20) - Wrap-up, rate the claim, methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Loyal, funny, hot — you’ve probably got a wish list for your dream partner. But does checking all your boxes actually lead to happily ever after? In this episode, we dive into a massive global study that put the “ideal partner” hypothesis to the test. Do people really know what they want, and does getting it actually make them happier? We explore surprising statistical insights from over 10,000 romantics in 43 countries, from mean-centering and interaction effects to the good-catch confounder. Along the way, we dig into dessert metaphors, partner boat-count regression models, and the one trait that people <em>say</em> doesn’t matter — but secretly makes them happiest.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Regression</li><li>Random Slopes and Intercepts (Random Effects) in Regression</li><li>Standardized Beta Coefficients in Regression</li><li>Interaction Effects in Regression</li><li>Mean Centering</li><li>Exploratory Analyses</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“Good science bares it all.”</em></p><p><em>“When the world isn't one size fits all, don't fit just one line; use random slopes and intercepts.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Eastwick PW, Sparks J, Finkel EJ, Meza EM, Adamkovič M, Adu P, Ai T, Akintola AA, Al-Shawaf L, Apriliawati D, Arriaga P, Aubert-Teillaud B, Baník G, Barzykowski K, Batres C, Baucom KJ, Beaulieu EZ, Behnke M, Butcher N, Charles DY, Chen JM, Cheon JE, Chittham P, Chwiłkowska P, Cong CW, Copping LT, Corral-Frias NS, Ćubela Adorić V, Dizon M, Du H, Ehinmowo MI, Escribano DA, Espinosa NM, Expósito F, Feldman G, Freitag R, Frias Armenta M, Gallyamova A, Gillath O, Gjoneska B, Gkinopoulos T, Grafe F, Grigoryev D, Groyecka-Bernard A, Gunaydin G, Ilustrisimo R, Impett E, Kačmár P, Kim YH, Kocur M, Kowal M, Krishna M, Labor PD, Lu JG, Lucas MY, Małecki WP, Malinakova K, Meißner S, Meier Z, Misiak M, Muise A, Novak L, O J, Özdoğru AA, Park HG, Paruzel M, Pavlović Z, Püski M, Ribeiro G, Roberts SC, Röer JP, Ropovik I, Ross RM, Sakman E, Salvador CE, Selcuk E, Skakoon-Sparling S, Sorokowska A, Sorokowski P, Spasovski O, Stanton SCE, Stewart SLK, Swami V, Szaszi B, Takashima K, Tavel P, Tejada J, Tu E, Tuominen J, Vaidis D, Vally Z, Vaughn LA, Villanueva-Moya L, Wisnuwardhani D, Yamada Y, Yonemitsu F, Žídková R, Živná K, Coles NA.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39480282/"> A worldwide test of the predictive validity of ideal partner preference matching</a>. J Pers Soc Psychol. 2025 Jan;128(1):123-146. doi: 10.1037/pspp0000524</li><li>Love Factually Podcast: <a href="https://www.lovefactuallypod.com/">https://www.lovefactuallypod.com/</a></li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:<br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - </li>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:57) - Actual dating profile wishlists vs study wishlists </li>
<li>(09:12) - Juicy paper details</li>
<li>(18:31) - What the study actually asked – wishlist, partner resume, relationship satisfaction</li>
<li>(25:07) - Linear regression illustrated through number of boats your partner has</li>
<li>(31:34) - Standardized regression coefficients illustrated through spouse height concordance</li>
<li>(35:49) - Good catch confounder: We all just want the same high-quality ice cream / mate</li>
<li>(40:43) - Does your personalized wishlist matter? Results</li>
<li>(42:58) - Wishlist regression interaction effects: like chocolate and peanut butter</li>
<li>(46:48) - Partner traits result in happiness bonus points</li>
<li>(50:48) - What do we say we want – and what really makes us happy? Surprise</li>
<li>(55:07) - Gender stereotypes and whether they held up</li>
<li>(57:48) - Random effects models and boats again</li>
<li>(01:00:27) - Other cool things they did</li>
<li>(01:01:38) - One-minute paper summary</li>
<li>(01:03:20) - Wrap-up, rate the claim, methodological morals</li>
</ul><br><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Loyal, funny, hot — you’ve probably got a wish list for your dream partner. But does checking all your boxes actually lead to happily ever after? In this episode, we dive into a massive global study that put the “ideal partner” hypothesis to the test. Do people really know what they want, and does getting it actually make them happier? We explore surprising statistical insights from over 10,000 romantics in 43 countries, from mean-centering and interaction effects to the good-catch confounder. Along the way, we dig into dessert metaphors, partner boat-count regression models, and the one trait that people <em>say</em> doesn’t matter — but secretly makes them happiest.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Regression</li><li>Random Slopes and Intercepts (Random Effects) in Regression</li><li>Standardized Beta Coefficients in Regression</li><li>Interaction Effects in Regression</li><li>Mean Centering</li><li>Exploratory Analyses</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“Good science bares it all.”</em></p><p><em>“When the world isn't one size fits all, don't fit just one line; use random slopes and intercepts.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Eastwick PW, Sparks J, Finkel EJ, Meza EM, Adamkovič M, Adu P, Ai T, Akintola AA, Al-Shawaf L, Apriliawati D, Arriaga P, Aubert-Teillaud B, Baník G, Barzykowski K, Batres C, Baucom KJ, Beaulieu EZ, Behnke M, Butcher N, Charles DY, Chen JM, Cheon JE, Chittham P, Chwiłkowska P, Cong CW, Copping LT, Corral-Frias NS, Ćubela Adorić V, Dizon M, Du H, Ehinmowo MI, Escribano DA, Espinosa NM, Expósito F, Feldman G, Freitag R, Frias Armenta M, Gallyamova A, Gillath O, Gjoneska B, Gkinopoulos T, Grafe F, Grigoryev D, Groyecka-Bernard A, Gunaydin G, Ilustrisimo R, Impett E, Kačmár P, Kim YH, Kocur M, Kowal M, Krishna M, Labor PD, Lu JG, Lucas MY, Małecki WP, Malinakova K, Meißner S, Meier Z, Misiak M, Muise A, Novak L, O J, Özdoğru AA, Park HG, Paruzel M, Pavlović Z, Püski M, Ribeiro G, Roberts SC, Röer JP, Ropovik I, Ross RM, Sakman E, Salvador CE, Selcuk E, Skakoon-Sparling S, Sorokowska A, Sorokowski P, Spasovski O, Stanton SCE, Stewart SLK, Swami V, Szaszi B, Takashima K, Tavel P, Tejada J, Tu E, Tuominen J, Vaidis D, Vally Z, Vaughn LA, Villanueva-Moya L, Wisnuwardhani D, Yamada Y, Yonemitsu F, Žídková R, Živná K, Coles NA.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39480282/"> A worldwide test of the predictive validity of ideal partner preference matching</a>. J Pers Soc Psychol. 2025 Jan;128(1):123-146. doi: 10.1037/pspp0000524</li><li>Love Factually Podcast: <a href="https://www.lovefactuallypod.com/">https://www.lovefactuallypod.com/</a></li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:<br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - </li>
<li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(04:57) - Actual dating profile wishlists vs study wishlists </li>
<li>(09:12) - Juicy paper details</li>
<li>(18:31) - What the study actually asked – wishlist, partner resume, relationship satisfaction</li>
<li>(25:07) - Linear regression illustrated through number of boats your partner has</li>
<li>(31:34) - Standardized regression coefficients illustrated through spouse height concordance</li>
<li>(35:49) - Good catch confounder: We all just want the same high-quality ice cream / mate</li>
<li>(40:43) - Does your personalized wishlist matter? Results</li>
<li>(42:58) - Wishlist regression interaction effects: like chocolate and peanut butter</li>
<li>(46:48) - Partner traits result in happiness bonus points</li>
<li>(50:48) - What do we say we want – and what really makes us happy? Surprise</li>
<li>(55:07) - Gender stereotypes and whether they held up</li>
<li>(57:48) - Random effects models and boats again</li>
<li>(01:00:27) - Other cool things they did</li>
<li>(01:01:38) - One-minute paper summary</li>
<li>(01:03:20) - Wrap-up, rate the claim, methodological morals</li>
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      <itunes:keywords>Normal Curves podcast, Regina Nuzzo, Kristin Sainani, Stanford statistics, Gallaudet professor, dating and data, relationship science, wish lists in dating, scientific compatibility, romantic evaluation, personality traits in dating, regression analysis, interaction effects, random effects models, pre-registration in science, science podcast with humor, best stats podcast, psychological science accelerator, funny research podcast, learn statistics through love</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Stats Reunion: What have we learned so far?</title>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>11</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Stats Reunion: What have we learned so far?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s our first stats reunion! In this special review episode, we revisit favorite concepts from past episodes—p-values, multiple testing, regression adjustment—and give them fresh personalities as characters. Meet the seductive false positive, the clingy post hoc ex, and Charlotte, the well-meaning but overfitting idealist.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Bar charts vs Box plots</li><li>Bonferroni correction</li><li>Confounding</li><li>False positives </li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Multivariable regression</li><li>Outcome switching</li><li>Over-adjustment</li><li>Post hoc analysis</li><li>Pre-registration</li><li>Residual confounding</li><li>Statistical adjustment using regression</li><li>Subgroup analysis </li><li>Unmeasured confounding</li></ul><p><br></p><a href="https://bit.ly/40ALdAT"><strong>Review Sheet</strong></a><p><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892802/">The Box Plots Alternative for Visualizing Quantitative Data</a>. PM R. 2016 Mar;8(3):268-72. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.02.001. Epub 2016 Feb 15. PMID: 26892802.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20006317/">The problem of multiple testing</a>. PM R. 2009 Dec;1(12):1098-103. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2009.10.004. PMID: 20006317.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:26) - Mailbag</li>
<li>(06:42) - P-values</li>
<li>(12:43) - Multiple Testing Guy</li>
<li>(16:05) - Bonferroni solution</li>
<li>(17:11) - Post hoc analysis ex</li>
<li>(22:22) - Subgroup analysis person</li>
<li>(30:31) - Statistical adjustment idealist</li>
<li>(43:57) - Unmeasured confounding</li>
<li>(45:22) - Residual confounding</li>
<li>(49:28) - Over-adjustment</li>
<li>(54:45) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s our first stats reunion! In this special review episode, we revisit favorite concepts from past episodes—p-values, multiple testing, regression adjustment—and give them fresh personalities as characters. Meet the seductive false positive, the clingy post hoc ex, and Charlotte, the well-meaning but overfitting idealist.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Bar charts vs Box plots</li><li>Bonferroni correction</li><li>Confounding</li><li>False positives </li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Multivariable regression</li><li>Outcome switching</li><li>Over-adjustment</li><li>Post hoc analysis</li><li>Pre-registration</li><li>Residual confounding</li><li>Statistical adjustment using regression</li><li>Subgroup analysis </li><li>Unmeasured confounding</li></ul><p><br></p><a href="https://bit.ly/40ALdAT"><strong>Review Sheet</strong></a><p><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892802/">The Box Plots Alternative for Visualizing Quantitative Data</a>. PM R. 2016 Mar;8(3):268-72. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.02.001. Epub 2016 Feb 15. PMID: 26892802.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20006317/">The problem of multiple testing</a>. PM R. 2009 Dec;1(12):1098-103. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2009.10.004. PMID: 20006317.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:26) - Mailbag</li>
<li>(06:42) - P-values</li>
<li>(12:43) - Multiple Testing Guy</li>
<li>(16:05) - Bonferroni solution</li>
<li>(17:11) - Post hoc analysis ex</li>
<li>(22:22) - Subgroup analysis person</li>
<li>(30:31) - Statistical adjustment idealist</li>
<li>(43:57) - Unmeasured confounding</li>
<li>(45:22) - Residual confounding</li>
<li>(49:28) - Over-adjustment</li>
<li>(54:45) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s our first stats reunion! In this special review episode, we revisit favorite concepts from past episodes—p-values, multiple testing, regression adjustment—and give them fresh personalities as characters. Meet the seductive false positive, the clingy post hoc ex, and Charlotte, the well-meaning but overfitting idealist.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Bar charts vs Box plots</li><li>Bonferroni correction</li><li>Confounding</li><li>False positives </li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Multivariable regression</li><li>Outcome switching</li><li>Over-adjustment</li><li>Post hoc analysis</li><li>Pre-registration</li><li>Residual confounding</li><li>Statistical adjustment using regression</li><li>Subgroup analysis </li><li>Unmeasured confounding</li></ul><p><br></p><a href="https://bit.ly/40ALdAT"><strong>Review Sheet</strong></a><p><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo RL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892802/">The Box Plots Alternative for Visualizing Quantitative Data</a>. PM R. 2016 Mar;8(3):268-72. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2016.02.001. Epub 2016 Feb 15. PMID: 26892802.</li><li>Sainani KL. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20006317/">The problem of multiple testing</a>. PM R. 2009 Dec;1(12):1098-103. doi: 10.1016/j.pmrj.2009.10.004. PMID: 20006317.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Intro</li>
<li>(02:26) - Mailbag</li>
<li>(06:42) - P-values</li>
<li>(12:43) - Multiple Testing Guy</li>
<li>(16:05) - Bonferroni solution</li>
<li>(17:11) - Post hoc analysis ex</li>
<li>(22:22) - Subgroup analysis person</li>
<li>(30:31) - Statistical adjustment idealist</li>
<li>(43:57) - Unmeasured confounding</li>
<li>(45:22) - Residual confounding</li>
<li>(49:28) - Over-adjustment</li>
<li>(54:45) - Wrap-up</li>
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      <title>HPV Vaccine: How close are we to wiping out cervical cancer?</title>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>HPV Vaccine: How close are we to wiping out cervical cancer?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Could a preteen vaccine wipe out a global cancer? In this episode, we examine the bold claim that cervical cancer could be eradicated in much of the world by the end of the century—thanks to the highly effective HPV vaccine. We unpack statistical modeling, microsimulations, and how Markov chains make good date-night conversation. We also explore why vaccine uptake has been uneven, how a splash of vinegar is helping screen for cancer in low-resource countries, and why HPV isn’t just a women’s issue—it now causes more cancer in men than in women. Plus: dangerously tight corsets, allegedly breast-squeezing nuns, and the Cosmo quote we wish we’d written ourselves.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics:</strong></p><ul><li>Cancer surveillance</li><li>Markov models</li><li>Microsimulation models</li><li>Sensitivity analyses</li><li>Passive surveillance</li><li>Background rates</li><li>Case reports and case series</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals:</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When reality is too complex to test, let microsimulations do the rest.”</em></li><li><em>“Case reports are medicine's equivalent to see something, say something. They call for hard data, not hysteria.”</em></li></ul><p><strong><br>Citations:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.strath.ac.uk/whystrathclyde/news/2024/nocervicalcancercasesdetectedinvaccinatedwomenfollowinghpvimmunisation/">No cervical cancer cases detected in vaccinated women following HPV immunisation</a>. <em>University of Strathclyde</em>, January 22, 2024.</li><li>Palmer TJ, Kavanagh K, Cuschieri K, et al.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/116/6/857/7577291"> Invasive cervical cancer incidence following bivalent human papillomavirus vaccination: a population-based observational study of age at immunization, dose, and deprivation</a>. <em>J Natl Cancer Inst</em>. 2024;116:857-65.</li><li>Rigoni-Stern.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/sim.4780060803"> Statistical facts about cancers on which Doctor Rigoni-Stern based his contribution to the Surgeons' Subgroup of the IV Congress of the Italian Scientists on 23 September 1842. (translation).</a> <em>Stat Med</em>. 1987;6:881-4.</li><li>Gordan JA, Lenkei SC.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1922715/"> Cleanliness, Continence, Constancy, and Cervical Carcinoma</a>. <em>Can Med Assoc J</em>. 1964;90:1132.</li><li>zur Hausen H.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/175942/"> Condylomata acuminata and human genital cancer</a>. <em>Cancer Res</em>. 1976;36:794.</li><li>Walboomers JM, Jacobs MV, Manos MM, et al.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10451482/"> Human papillomavirus is a necessary cause of invasive cervical cancer worldwide</a>. <em>J Pathol</em>. 1999;189:12-9.</li><li>Chesson HW, Dunne EF, Hariri S, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6745688/"> The estimated lifetime probability of acquiring human papillomavirus in the United States</a>. <em>Sex Transm Dis</em>. 2014;41:660-4.</li><li>Sullivan, Morgan.<a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/a64164158/hpv-vaccine-facts/"> Let’s Have a Little Chat About the HPV Vaccine</a>. <em>Cosmopolitan. </em>March 19, 2025.</li><li>Burger EA, Kim JJ, Sy S, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5850533/"> Age of Acquiring Causal Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Infections: Leveraging Simulation Models to Explore the Natural History of HPV-induced Cervical Cancer</a>. <em>Clin Infect Dis</em>. 2017;65:893-99.</li><li>Canfell K.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6722296/"> Towards the global elimination of cervical cancer</a>. <em>Papillomavirus Res</em>. 2019;8:100170.</li><li>World Health Organization.<a href="https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240014107"> Global strategy to accelerate the elimination of cervical cancer as a public health problem</a>. November 17, 2020.</li><li>Hall MT, Simms KT, Lew JB, et al.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30183-X/fulltext"> The projected timeframe until cervical cancer elimination in Australia: a modelling study</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2019;4:e19-e27.</li><li>Burger EA, Smith MA, Killen J, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8715100/"> Projected time to elimination of cervical cancer in the USA: a comparative modelling study</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2020 Apr;5(4):e213-e222.</li><li>Brisson M, Kim JJ, Canfell K, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7043009/"> Impact of HPV vaccination and cervical screening on cervical cancer elimination: a comparative modelling analysis in 78 low-income and lower-middle-income countries</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 2020;395:575-90.</li><li>Escabí-Wojna E, Alvelo-Fernández PM, Suárez E, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24012660?via%3Dihub"> Sex differences in parental reasons for lack of intent to initiate HPV vaccination among adolescents ages 13-17 years: National Immunization Survey - Teen 2019-2021</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2025;44:126584. (see supplement) </li><li>Szilagyi PG, Albertin CS, Gurfinkel D, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9495911/"> Prevalence and characteristics of HPV vaccine hesitancy among parents of adolescents across the US</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2020;38:6027-6037.</li><li>LaPook, Jonathan.<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-the-hpv-vaccine-safe/"> Is the HPV Vaccine Safe?</a> <em>CBS Evening News</em>. August 18, 2009.</li><li>Slade BA, Leidel L, Vellozzi C, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/184421"> Postlicensure safety surveillance for quadrivalent human papillomavirus recombinant vaccine</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2009;302:750-7.</li><li>Kharabsheh S, Al-Otoum H, Clements J, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2566491/"> Mass psychogenic illness following tetanus-diphtheria toxoid vaccination in Jordan</a>. <em>Bull World Health Organ</em>. 2001;79:764-70.</li><li>Jones TF, Craig AS, Hoy D, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200001133420206"> Mass psychogenic illness attributed to toxic exposure at a high school.</a> <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2000;342:96-100.</li><li>Buttery JP, Madin S, Crawford NW, et al.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.5694/j.1326-5377.2008.tb02018.x"> Mass psychogenic response to human papillomavirus vaccination</a>. <em>Med J Aust</em>. 2008;189:261-2.</li><li>Clements CJ.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2007.00101.x"> Gardasil and mass psychogenic illness</a>. <em>Aust N Z J Public Health</em>. 2007;31:387.</li><li>Simas C, Munoz N, Arregoces L, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6363158/"> HPV vaccine confidence and cases of mass psychogenic illness following immunization in Carmen de Bolivar, Colombia</a>. <em>Hum Vaccin Immunother</em>. 2019;15:163-66.</li><li>Larson HJ.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(20)30047-5/fulltext"> Japan's HPV vaccine crisis: act now to avert cervical cancer cases and deaths</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2020;5:e184-e185.</li><li>Brinth LS, Pors K, Theibel AC, Mehlsen J.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0264-410X(15)00437-5"> Orthostatic intolerance and postural tachycardia syndrome as suspected adverse effects of vaccination against human papilloma virus</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2015;33:2602-5.</li><li>Large well-done studies following up on case reports and passive surveillance:</li><li>Phillips A, Hickie M, Totterdell J, Brotherton J, Dey A, Hill R, Snelling T, Macartney K.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X20308252?via%3Dihub"> Adverse events following HPV vaccination: 11 years of surveillance in Australia</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2020;38:6038-46.</li><li>Arnheim-Dahlström L, Pasternak B, Svanström H, et al.<a href="https://pmc..."></a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Could a preteen vaccine wipe out a global cancer? In this episode, we examine the bold claim that cervical cancer could be eradicated in much of the world by the end of the century—thanks to the highly effective HPV vaccine. We unpack statistical modeling, microsimulations, and how Markov chains make good date-night conversation. We also explore why vaccine uptake has been uneven, how a splash of vinegar is helping screen for cancer in low-resource countries, and why HPV isn’t just a women’s issue—it now causes more cancer in men than in women. Plus: dangerously tight corsets, allegedly breast-squeezing nuns, and the Cosmo quote we wish we’d written ourselves.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics:</strong></p><ul><li>Cancer surveillance</li><li>Markov models</li><li>Microsimulation models</li><li>Sensitivity analyses</li><li>Passive surveillance</li><li>Background rates</li><li>Case reports and case series</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals:</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When reality is too complex to test, let microsimulations do the rest.”</em></li><li><em>“Case reports are medicine's equivalent to see something, say something. They call for hard data, not hysteria.”</em></li></ul><p><strong><br>Citations:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.strath.ac.uk/whystrathclyde/news/2024/nocervicalcancercasesdetectedinvaccinatedwomenfollowinghpvimmunisation/">No cervical cancer cases detected in vaccinated women following HPV immunisation</a>. <em>University of Strathclyde</em>, January 22, 2024.</li><li>Palmer TJ, Kavanagh K, Cuschieri K, et al.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/116/6/857/7577291"> Invasive cervical cancer incidence following bivalent human papillomavirus vaccination: a population-based observational study of age at immunization, dose, and deprivation</a>. <em>J Natl Cancer Inst</em>. 2024;116:857-65.</li><li>Rigoni-Stern.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/sim.4780060803"> Statistical facts about cancers on which Doctor Rigoni-Stern based his contribution to the Surgeons' Subgroup of the IV Congress of the Italian Scientists on 23 September 1842. (translation).</a> <em>Stat Med</em>. 1987;6:881-4.</li><li>Gordan JA, Lenkei SC.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1922715/"> Cleanliness, Continence, Constancy, and Cervical Carcinoma</a>. <em>Can Med Assoc J</em>. 1964;90:1132.</li><li>zur Hausen H.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/175942/"> Condylomata acuminata and human genital cancer</a>. <em>Cancer Res</em>. 1976;36:794.</li><li>Walboomers JM, Jacobs MV, Manos MM, et al.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10451482/"> Human papillomavirus is a necessary cause of invasive cervical cancer worldwide</a>. <em>J Pathol</em>. 1999;189:12-9.</li><li>Chesson HW, Dunne EF, Hariri S, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6745688/"> The estimated lifetime probability of acquiring human papillomavirus in the United States</a>. <em>Sex Transm Dis</em>. 2014;41:660-4.</li><li>Sullivan, Morgan.<a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/a64164158/hpv-vaccine-facts/"> Let’s Have a Little Chat About the HPV Vaccine</a>. <em>Cosmopolitan. </em>March 19, 2025.</li><li>Burger EA, Kim JJ, Sy S, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5850533/"> Age of Acquiring Causal Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Infections: Leveraging Simulation Models to Explore the Natural History of HPV-induced Cervical Cancer</a>. <em>Clin Infect Dis</em>. 2017;65:893-99.</li><li>Canfell K.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6722296/"> Towards the global elimination of cervical cancer</a>. <em>Papillomavirus Res</em>. 2019;8:100170.</li><li>World Health Organization.<a href="https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240014107"> Global strategy to accelerate the elimination of cervical cancer as a public health problem</a>. November 17, 2020.</li><li>Hall MT, Simms KT, Lew JB, et al.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30183-X/fulltext"> The projected timeframe until cervical cancer elimination in Australia: a modelling study</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2019;4:e19-e27.</li><li>Burger EA, Smith MA, Killen J, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8715100/"> Projected time to elimination of cervical cancer in the USA: a comparative modelling study</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2020 Apr;5(4):e213-e222.</li><li>Brisson M, Kim JJ, Canfell K, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7043009/"> Impact of HPV vaccination and cervical screening on cervical cancer elimination: a comparative modelling analysis in 78 low-income and lower-middle-income countries</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 2020;395:575-90.</li><li>Escabí-Wojna E, Alvelo-Fernández PM, Suárez E, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24012660?via%3Dihub"> Sex differences in parental reasons for lack of intent to initiate HPV vaccination among adolescents ages 13-17 years: National Immunization Survey - Teen 2019-2021</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2025;44:126584. (see supplement) </li><li>Szilagyi PG, Albertin CS, Gurfinkel D, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9495911/"> Prevalence and characteristics of HPV vaccine hesitancy among parents of adolescents across the US</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2020;38:6027-6037.</li><li>LaPook, Jonathan.<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-the-hpv-vaccine-safe/"> Is the HPV Vaccine Safe?</a> <em>CBS Evening News</em>. August 18, 2009.</li><li>Slade BA, Leidel L, Vellozzi C, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/184421"> Postlicensure safety surveillance for quadrivalent human papillomavirus recombinant vaccine</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2009;302:750-7.</li><li>Kharabsheh S, Al-Otoum H, Clements J, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2566491/"> Mass psychogenic illness following tetanus-diphtheria toxoid vaccination in Jordan</a>. <em>Bull World Health Organ</em>. 2001;79:764-70.</li><li>Jones TF, Craig AS, Hoy D, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200001133420206"> Mass psychogenic illness attributed to toxic exposure at a high school.</a> <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2000;342:96-100.</li><li>Buttery JP, Madin S, Crawford NW, et al.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.5694/j.1326-5377.2008.tb02018.x"> Mass psychogenic response to human papillomavirus vaccination</a>. <em>Med J Aust</em>. 2008;189:261-2.</li><li>Clements CJ.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2007.00101.x"> Gardasil and mass psychogenic illness</a>. <em>Aust N Z J Public Health</em>. 2007;31:387.</li><li>Simas C, Munoz N, Arregoces L, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6363158/"> HPV vaccine confidence and cases of mass psychogenic illness following immunization in Carmen de Bolivar, Colombia</a>. <em>Hum Vaccin Immunother</em>. 2019;15:163-66.</li><li>Larson HJ.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(20)30047-5/fulltext"> Japan's HPV vaccine crisis: act now to avert cervical cancer cases and deaths</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2020;5:e184-e185.</li><li>Brinth LS, Pors K, Theibel AC, Mehlsen J.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0264-410X(15)00437-5"> Orthostatic intolerance and postural tachycardia syndrome as suspected adverse effects of vaccination against human papilloma virus</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2015;33:2602-5.</li><li>Large well-done studies following up on case reports and passive surveillance:</li><li>Phillips A, Hickie M, Totterdell J, Brotherton J, Dey A, Hill R, Snelling T, Macartney K.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X20308252?via%3Dihub"> Adverse events following HPV vaccination: 11 years of surveillance in Australia</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2020;38:6038-46.</li><li>Arnheim-Dahlström L, Pasternak B, Svanström H, et al.<a href="https://pmc..."></a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Could a preteen vaccine wipe out a global cancer? In this episode, we examine the bold claim that cervical cancer could be eradicated in much of the world by the end of the century—thanks to the highly effective HPV vaccine. We unpack statistical modeling, microsimulations, and how Markov chains make good date-night conversation. We also explore why vaccine uptake has been uneven, how a splash of vinegar is helping screen for cancer in low-resource countries, and why HPV isn’t just a women’s issue—it now causes more cancer in men than in women. Plus: dangerously tight corsets, allegedly breast-squeezing nuns, and the Cosmo quote we wish we’d written ourselves.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics:</strong></p><ul><li>Cancer surveillance</li><li>Markov models</li><li>Microsimulation models</li><li>Sensitivity analyses</li><li>Passive surveillance</li><li>Background rates</li><li>Case reports and case series</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals:</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When reality is too complex to test, let microsimulations do the rest.”</em></li><li><em>“Case reports are medicine's equivalent to see something, say something. They call for hard data, not hysteria.”</em></li></ul><p><strong><br>Citations:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.strath.ac.uk/whystrathclyde/news/2024/nocervicalcancercasesdetectedinvaccinatedwomenfollowinghpvimmunisation/">No cervical cancer cases detected in vaccinated women following HPV immunisation</a>. <em>University of Strathclyde</em>, January 22, 2024.</li><li>Palmer TJ, Kavanagh K, Cuschieri K, et al.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/116/6/857/7577291"> Invasive cervical cancer incidence following bivalent human papillomavirus vaccination: a population-based observational study of age at immunization, dose, and deprivation</a>. <em>J Natl Cancer Inst</em>. 2024;116:857-65.</li><li>Rigoni-Stern.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/sim.4780060803"> Statistical facts about cancers on which Doctor Rigoni-Stern based his contribution to the Surgeons' Subgroup of the IV Congress of the Italian Scientists on 23 September 1842. (translation).</a> <em>Stat Med</em>. 1987;6:881-4.</li><li>Gordan JA, Lenkei SC.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1922715/"> Cleanliness, Continence, Constancy, and Cervical Carcinoma</a>. <em>Can Med Assoc J</em>. 1964;90:1132.</li><li>zur Hausen H.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/175942/"> Condylomata acuminata and human genital cancer</a>. <em>Cancer Res</em>. 1976;36:794.</li><li>Walboomers JM, Jacobs MV, Manos MM, et al.<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10451482/"> Human papillomavirus is a necessary cause of invasive cervical cancer worldwide</a>. <em>J Pathol</em>. 1999;189:12-9.</li><li>Chesson HW, Dunne EF, Hariri S, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6745688/"> The estimated lifetime probability of acquiring human papillomavirus in the United States</a>. <em>Sex Transm Dis</em>. 2014;41:660-4.</li><li>Sullivan, Morgan.<a href="https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/a64164158/hpv-vaccine-facts/"> Let’s Have a Little Chat About the HPV Vaccine</a>. <em>Cosmopolitan. </em>March 19, 2025.</li><li>Burger EA, Kim JJ, Sy S, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5850533/"> Age of Acquiring Causal Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Infections: Leveraging Simulation Models to Explore the Natural History of HPV-induced Cervical Cancer</a>. <em>Clin Infect Dis</em>. 2017;65:893-99.</li><li>Canfell K.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6722296/"> Towards the global elimination of cervical cancer</a>. <em>Papillomavirus Res</em>. 2019;8:100170.</li><li>World Health Organization.<a href="https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240014107"> Global strategy to accelerate the elimination of cervical cancer as a public health problem</a>. November 17, 2020.</li><li>Hall MT, Simms KT, Lew JB, et al.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(18)30183-X/fulltext"> The projected timeframe until cervical cancer elimination in Australia: a modelling study</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2019;4:e19-e27.</li><li>Burger EA, Smith MA, Killen J, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8715100/"> Projected time to elimination of cervical cancer in the USA: a comparative modelling study</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2020 Apr;5(4):e213-e222.</li><li>Brisson M, Kim JJ, Canfell K, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7043009/"> Impact of HPV vaccination and cervical screening on cervical cancer elimination: a comparative modelling analysis in 78 low-income and lower-middle-income countries</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 2020;395:575-90.</li><li>Escabí-Wojna E, Alvelo-Fernández PM, Suárez E, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24012660?via%3Dihub"> Sex differences in parental reasons for lack of intent to initiate HPV vaccination among adolescents ages 13-17 years: National Immunization Survey - Teen 2019-2021</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2025;44:126584. (see supplement) </li><li>Szilagyi PG, Albertin CS, Gurfinkel D, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9495911/"> Prevalence and characteristics of HPV vaccine hesitancy among parents of adolescents across the US</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2020;38:6027-6037.</li><li>LaPook, Jonathan.<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-the-hpv-vaccine-safe/"> Is the HPV Vaccine Safe?</a> <em>CBS Evening News</em>. August 18, 2009.</li><li>Slade BA, Leidel L, Vellozzi C, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/184421"> Postlicensure safety surveillance for quadrivalent human papillomavirus recombinant vaccine</a>. <em>JAMA</em>. 2009;302:750-7.</li><li>Kharabsheh S, Al-Otoum H, Clements J, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2566491/"> Mass psychogenic illness following tetanus-diphtheria toxoid vaccination in Jordan</a>. <em>Bull World Health Organ</em>. 2001;79:764-70.</li><li>Jones TF, Craig AS, Hoy D, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200001133420206"> Mass psychogenic illness attributed to toxic exposure at a high school.</a> <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2000;342:96-100.</li><li>Buttery JP, Madin S, Crawford NW, et al.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.5694/j.1326-5377.2008.tb02018.x"> Mass psychogenic response to human papillomavirus vaccination</a>. <em>Med J Aust</em>. 2008;189:261-2.</li><li>Clements CJ.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2007.00101.x"> Gardasil and mass psychogenic illness</a>. <em>Aust N Z J Public Health</em>. 2007;31:387.</li><li>Simas C, Munoz N, Arregoces L, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6363158/"> HPV vaccine confidence and cases of mass psychogenic illness following immunization in Carmen de Bolivar, Colombia</a>. <em>Hum Vaccin Immunother</em>. 2019;15:163-66.</li><li>Larson HJ.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(20)30047-5/fulltext"> Japan's HPV vaccine crisis: act now to avert cervical cancer cases and deaths</a>. <em>Lancet Public Health</em>. 2020;5:e184-e185.</li><li>Brinth LS, Pors K, Theibel AC, Mehlsen J.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0264-410X(15)00437-5"> Orthostatic intolerance and postural tachycardia syndrome as suspected adverse effects of vaccination against human papilloma virus</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2015;33:2602-5.</li><li>Large well-done studies following up on case reports and passive surveillance:</li><li>Phillips A, Hickie M, Totterdell J, Brotherton J, Dey A, Hill R, Snelling T, Macartney K.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X20308252?via%3Dihub"> Adverse events following HPV vaccination: 11 years of surveillance in Australia</a>. <em>Vaccine</em>. 2020;38:6038-46.</li><li>Arnheim-Dahlström L, Pasternak B, Svanström H, et al.<a href="https://pmc..."></a></li></ul>]]>
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      <title>Equipment Size: What is average?</title>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>9</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Equipment Size: What is average?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today’s deep dive: the surprisingly serious science of penis size. Using self-report surveys, objective measurements, and a healthy dose of old-school statistics, we ask: <em>How do you get clean data on gentlemen’s goods?</em>Along the way, we explore social desirability bias, survey design tricks, and what happens when science meets insecurity. You’ll never look at a Starbucks cup the same way again.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Social desirability bias</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Volunteer Bias</li><li>Descriptive Statistics</li><li>Right-Skewed Distributions</li><li>Strategies to improve accuracy in self-report data</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When answers aim to please, truth takes its leave.”</em></li><li><em>“Without descriptive statistics, you'll never know if you measure up.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>CROWNE DP, MARLOWE D. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13813058/">A new scale of social desirability independent of psychopathology.</a> <em>J Consult Psychol</em>. 1960;24:349-354. doi:10.1037/h0047358</li><li>Gebhard, P.H. and Johnson, A.B., 1998. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;id=s7dvxScuTWMC&amp;oi=fnd&amp;pg=PA1&amp;ots=DpdMQV1JkI&amp;sig=7VpacUvpcfKZRBlOODABWTioX1A#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"><em>The Kinsey data: Marginal tabulations of the 1938-1963 interviews conducted by the Institute for Sex Research</em>.</a> Indiana University Press.</li><li>Herbenick D, Reece M, Schick V, Sanders SA. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23841855/">Erect penile length and circumference dimensions of 1,661 sexually active men in the United States</a>. <em>J Sex Med</em>. 2014;11(1):93-101. doi:10.1111/jsm.12244</li><li>Johnston, L., McLellan, T., &amp; McKinlay, A. (2014). <a href="https://doi.org/10.1037/a0033264">(Perceived) size really does matter: Male dissatisfaction with penis size</a>. <em>Psychology of Men &amp; Masculinity, 15</em>(2), 225–228. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/a0033264">https://doi.org/10.1037/a0033264</a></li><li>King BM. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8917098/">The Influence of Social Desirability on Sexual Behavior Surveys: A Review</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2022;51(3):1495-1501. doi:10.1007/s10508-021-02197-0</li><li>King BM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32666897/">Average-Size Erect Penis: Fiction, Fact, and the Need for Counseling. </a><em>J Sex Marital Ther</em>. 2021;47(1):80-89. doi:10.1080/0092623X.2020.1787279</li><li>King BM, Duncan LM, Clinkenbeard KM, Rutland MB, Ryan KM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30681032/">Social Desirability and Young Men's Self-Reports of Penis Size</a>. <em>J Sex Marital Ther</em>. 2019;45(5):452-455. doi:10.1080/0092623X.2018.1533905</li><li>Larson, R.B., 2019.<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1470785318805305"> Controlling social desirability bias</a>. <em>International Journal of Market Research</em>, <em>61</em>(5), pp.534-547.</li><li>Stodel, M. (2015). But What Will People Think?: Getting beyond Social Desirability Bias by Increasing Cognitive Load. International Journal of Market Research, 57(2), 313-322. <a href="https://doi.org/10.2501/IJMR-2015-024">https://doi.org/10.2501/IJMR-2015-024</a>   (Original work published 2015)<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/101qWTYWHT72tSuUi72xVW2d2IOEz0emepJArnrsEVgk/edit?usp=sharing">Spreadsheet with Penis Length Data</a></p><p><br><strong>Our online courses and programs: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><strong>Find us on social:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><br></strong><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:33) - Starbucks metric and episode themes</li>
<li>(07:17) - Men and women’s sampling frames</li>
<li>(09:24) - Kinsey and his studies</li>
<li>(14:59) - Statistics quiz on Kinsey penis data</li>
<li>(22:13) - Social desirability bias</li>
<li>(29:20) - Cognitive tricks to elicit honest survey answers</li>
<li>(35:13) - Condoms, honest penis lengths, and another stats quiz</li>
<li>(41:33) - Objective penis appraisers, measurement error, and reliability</li>
<li>(46:45) - Whose penises? Volunteer and selection bias</li>
<li>(50:30) - Mini-meta-analysis and the “answer”</li>
<li>(52:09) - Wrap-up and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today’s deep dive: the surprisingly serious science of penis size. Using self-report surveys, objective measurements, and a healthy dose of old-school statistics, we ask: <em>How do you get clean data on gentlemen’s goods?</em>Along the way, we explore social desirability bias, survey design tricks, and what happens when science meets insecurity. You’ll never look at a Starbucks cup the same way again.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Social desirability bias</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Volunteer Bias</li><li>Descriptive Statistics</li><li>Right-Skewed Distributions</li><li>Strategies to improve accuracy in self-report data</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When answers aim to please, truth takes its leave.”</em></li><li><em>“Without descriptive statistics, you'll never know if you measure up.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>CROWNE DP, MARLOWE D. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13813058/">A new scale of social desirability independent of psychopathology.</a> <em>J Consult Psychol</em>. 1960;24:349-354. doi:10.1037/h0047358</li><li>Gebhard, P.H. and Johnson, A.B., 1998. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;id=s7dvxScuTWMC&amp;oi=fnd&amp;pg=PA1&amp;ots=DpdMQV1JkI&amp;sig=7VpacUvpcfKZRBlOODABWTioX1A#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"><em>The Kinsey data: Marginal tabulations of the 1938-1963 interviews conducted by the Institute for Sex Research</em>.</a> Indiana University Press.</li><li>Herbenick D, Reece M, Schick V, Sanders SA. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23841855/">Erect penile length and circumference dimensions of 1,661 sexually active men in the United States</a>. <em>J Sex Med</em>. 2014;11(1):93-101. doi:10.1111/jsm.12244</li><li>Johnston, L., McLellan, T., &amp; McKinlay, A. (2014). <a href="https://doi.org/10.1037/a0033264">(Perceived) size really does matter: Male dissatisfaction with penis size</a>. <em>Psychology of Men &amp; Masculinity, 15</em>(2), 225–228. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/a0033264">https://doi.org/10.1037/a0033264</a></li><li>King BM. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8917098/">The Influence of Social Desirability on Sexual Behavior Surveys: A Review</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2022;51(3):1495-1501. doi:10.1007/s10508-021-02197-0</li><li>King BM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32666897/">Average-Size Erect Penis: Fiction, Fact, and the Need for Counseling. </a><em>J Sex Marital Ther</em>. 2021;47(1):80-89. doi:10.1080/0092623X.2020.1787279</li><li>King BM, Duncan LM, Clinkenbeard KM, Rutland MB, Ryan KM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30681032/">Social Desirability and Young Men's Self-Reports of Penis Size</a>. <em>J Sex Marital Ther</em>. 2019;45(5):452-455. doi:10.1080/0092623X.2018.1533905</li><li>Larson, R.B., 2019.<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1470785318805305"> Controlling social desirability bias</a>. <em>International Journal of Market Research</em>, <em>61</em>(5), pp.534-547.</li><li>Stodel, M. (2015). But What Will People Think?: Getting beyond Social Desirability Bias by Increasing Cognitive Load. International Journal of Market Research, 57(2), 313-322. <a href="https://doi.org/10.2501/IJMR-2015-024">https://doi.org/10.2501/IJMR-2015-024</a>   (Original work published 2015)<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/101qWTYWHT72tSuUi72xVW2d2IOEz0emepJArnrsEVgk/edit?usp=sharing">Spreadsheet with Penis Length Data</a></p><p><br><strong>Our online courses and programs: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><strong>Find us on social:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><br></strong><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:33) - Starbucks metric and episode themes</li>
<li>(07:17) - Men and women’s sampling frames</li>
<li>(09:24) - Kinsey and his studies</li>
<li>(14:59) - Statistics quiz on Kinsey penis data</li>
<li>(22:13) - Social desirability bias</li>
<li>(29:20) - Cognitive tricks to elicit honest survey answers</li>
<li>(35:13) - Condoms, honest penis lengths, and another stats quiz</li>
<li>(41:33) - Objective penis appraisers, measurement error, and reliability</li>
<li>(46:45) - Whose penises? Volunteer and selection bias</li>
<li>(50:30) - Mini-meta-analysis and the “answer”</li>
<li>(52:09) - Wrap-up and methodological morals</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today’s deep dive: the surprisingly serious science of penis size. Using self-report surveys, objective measurements, and a healthy dose of old-school statistics, we ask: <em>How do you get clean data on gentlemen’s goods?</em>Along the way, we explore social desirability bias, survey design tricks, and what happens when science meets insecurity. You’ll never look at a Starbucks cup the same way again.</p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Social desirability bias</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Volunteer Bias</li><li>Descriptive Statistics</li><li>Right-Skewed Distributions</li><li>Strategies to improve accuracy in self-report data</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When answers aim to please, truth takes its leave.”</em></li><li><em>“Without descriptive statistics, you'll never know if you measure up.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>CROWNE DP, MARLOWE D. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13813058/">A new scale of social desirability independent of psychopathology.</a> <em>J Consult Psychol</em>. 1960;24:349-354. doi:10.1037/h0047358</li><li>Gebhard, P.H. and Johnson, A.B., 1998. <a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;id=s7dvxScuTWMC&amp;oi=fnd&amp;pg=PA1&amp;ots=DpdMQV1JkI&amp;sig=7VpacUvpcfKZRBlOODABWTioX1A#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false"><em>The Kinsey data: Marginal tabulations of the 1938-1963 interviews conducted by the Institute for Sex Research</em>.</a> Indiana University Press.</li><li>Herbenick D, Reece M, Schick V, Sanders SA. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23841855/">Erect penile length and circumference dimensions of 1,661 sexually active men in the United States</a>. <em>J Sex Med</em>. 2014;11(1):93-101. doi:10.1111/jsm.12244</li><li>Johnston, L., McLellan, T., &amp; McKinlay, A. (2014). <a href="https://doi.org/10.1037/a0033264">(Perceived) size really does matter: Male dissatisfaction with penis size</a>. <em>Psychology of Men &amp; Masculinity, 15</em>(2), 225–228. <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/a0033264">https://doi.org/10.1037/a0033264</a></li><li>King BM. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8917098/">The Influence of Social Desirability on Sexual Behavior Surveys: A Review</a>. <em>Arch Sex Behav</em>. 2022;51(3):1495-1501. doi:10.1007/s10508-021-02197-0</li><li>King BM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32666897/">Average-Size Erect Penis: Fiction, Fact, and the Need for Counseling. </a><em>J Sex Marital Ther</em>. 2021;47(1):80-89. doi:10.1080/0092623X.2020.1787279</li><li>King BM, Duncan LM, Clinkenbeard KM, Rutland MB, Ryan KM. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30681032/">Social Desirability and Young Men's Self-Reports of Penis Size</a>. <em>J Sex Marital Ther</em>. 2019;45(5):452-455. doi:10.1080/0092623X.2018.1533905</li><li>Larson, R.B., 2019.<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1470785318805305"> Controlling social desirability bias</a>. <em>International Journal of Market Research</em>, <em>61</em>(5), pp.534-547.</li><li>Stodel, M. (2015). But What Will People Think?: Getting beyond Social Desirability Bias by Increasing Cognitive Load. International Journal of Market Research, 57(2), 313-322. <a href="https://doi.org/10.2501/IJMR-2015-024">https://doi.org/10.2501/IJMR-2015-024</a>   (Original work published 2015)<p></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/101qWTYWHT72tSuUi72xVW2d2IOEz0emepJArnrsEVgk/edit?usp=sharing">Spreadsheet with Penis Length Data</a></p><p><br><strong>Our online courses and programs: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><strong>Find us on social:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><br></strong><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:33) - Starbucks metric and episode themes</li>
<li>(07:17) - Men and women’s sampling frames</li>
<li>(09:24) - Kinsey and his studies</li>
<li>(14:59) - Statistics quiz on Kinsey penis data</li>
<li>(22:13) - Social desirability bias</li>
<li>(29:20) - Cognitive tricks to elicit honest survey answers</li>
<li>(35:13) - Condoms, honest penis lengths, and another stats quiz</li>
<li>(41:33) - Objective penis appraisers, measurement error, and reliability</li>
<li>(46:45) - Whose penises? Volunteer and selection bias</li>
<li>(50:30) - Mini-meta-analysis and the “answer”</li>
<li>(52:09) - Wrap-up and methodological morals</li>
</ul><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Sugar Sag: Is Your Diet Aging You?</title>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Sugar Sag: Is Your Diet Aging You?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wrinkles and sagging skin—just normal aging, or can you blame your sweet tooth? We dive into “sugar sag,” exploring how sugar, processed foods, and even your crispy breakfast toast might be making you look older than if you’d said no to chocolate cake and yes to broccoli. Along the way, we encounter statistical adjustment, training and test data sets, what we call “references to nowhere,” plus some cadavers and collagen. Ever heard of an AGE reader? Find out how this tool might offer a sneak peek at your date’s age—and maybe even a clue about his… um… “performance.”</p><p><strong>Statistical topics </strong></p><ul><li>Training and test sets</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Overfitting </li><li>Plagiarism</li><li>Proper citing practices</li><li>References to nowhere</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When you plagiarize, you steal the errors too.”</em></li><li><em>“Overdone statistical adjustment is like overdone photo filters–at a certain point it’s just laughable.”</em></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>Collagen turnover: </em></p><ul><li>Verzijl N, DeGroot J, Thorpe SR, et al.<a href="https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)55828-8/fulltext">Effect of Collagen Turnover on the Accumulation of Advanced Glycation End Products</a>. <em>JBC</em>. 2000;275:39027-31.</li></ul><p><em>Cadaver study:</em></p><ul><li>Hamlin CR, Kohn RR, Luschin JH. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/24/10/902/4787/Apparent-Accelerated-Aging-of-Human-Collagen-in">Apparent Accelerated Aging of Human Collagen in Diabetes Mellitus</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1975; 24: 902–904.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.diagnoptics.com/age-reader/"><em>AGE Reader</em></a></p><p><br></p><p><em>Studies of AGEs and diabetes and health:</em></p><ul><li>Monnier VM, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.6779377">Nonenzymatic browning in vivo: possible process for aging of long-lived proteins</a>. <em>Science</em>. 1981;211:491-3. </li><li>Brownlee M, Vlassara H, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-101-4-527">Nonenzymatic glycosylation and the pathogenesis of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 1984;101:527-37. </li><li>Monnier VM, Vishwanath V, Frank KE, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198602133140702">Relation between Complications of Type I Diabetes Mellitus and Collagen-Linked Fluorescence</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 1986;314:403-408.</li><li>Monnier VM, Sell DR, Abdul-Karim FW, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/37/7/867/9388/Collagen-Browning-and-Cross-Linking-Are-Increased">Collagen browning and cross-linking are increased in chronic experimental hyperglycemia</a>. Relevance to diabetes and aging. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1988;37:867-72. </li><li>Monnier VM, Bautista O, Kenny D, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/48/4/870/10667/Skin-collagen-glycation-glycoxidation-and">Skin collagen glycation, glycoxidation, and crosslinking are lower in subjects with long-term intensive versus conventional therapy of type 1 diabetes: relevance of glycated collagen products versus HbA1c as markers of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Diabetes</em> 1999; 48: 870–80.</li><li>Genuth S, Sun W, Cleary P, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622724/">Glycation and carboxymethyllysine levels in skin collagen predict the risk of future 10-year progression of diabetic retinopathy and nephropathy in the diabetes control and complications trial and epidemiology of diabetes interventions and complications participants with type 1 diabetes</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 2005;54:3103-11. </li><li>van Waateringe RP, Slagter SN, van Beek AP, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5450154/">Skin autofluorescence, a non-invasive biomarker for advanced glycation end products, is associated with the metabolic syndrome and its individual components</a>. <em>Diabetol Metab Syndr</em>. 2017;9:42. </li><li>Kouidrat Y, Zaitouni A, Amad A, et al.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056-8727(16)30351-8"> Skin autofluorescence (a marker for advanced glycation end products) and erectile dysfunction in diabetes</a>. <em>J Diabetes Complications</em>. 2017;3:108-113. </li><li>Fujita N, Ishida M, Iwane T, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10307664/">Association between Advanced Glycation End-Products, Carotenoids, and Severe Erectile Dysfunction</a>. <em>World J Mens Health</em>. 2023;41:701-11. </li><li>Uruska A, Gandecka A, Araszkiewicz A, et al. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dme.13921">Accumulation of advanced glycation end products in the skin is accelerated in relation to insulin resistance in people with Type 1 diabetes mellitus</a>. <em>Diabet Med</em>. 2019;36:620-625. </li><li>Boersma HE, Smit AJ, Paterson AD, et al<em>.</em> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-71037-7">Skin autofluorescence and cause-specific mortality in a population-based cohort</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em> 2024;14:19967.</li></ul><p><br><em>Review article with conflicts of interest: </em></p><ul><li>Draelos ZD. <a href="https://jddonline.com/articles/individual-article-sugar-sag-what-is-skin-glycation-and-how-do-you-combat-it-S1545961624SSF378083s5X">Sugar Sag: What Is Skin Glycation and How Do You Combat It?</a> <em>J Drugs Dermatol</em>. 2024; 23:s5-10.</li></ul><p><br><em>Clinical study on AGE interrupter cream:</em></p><ul><li>Draelos ZD, Yatskayer M, Raab S, Oresajo C. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1473-2165.2009.00428.x">An evaluation of the effect of a topical product containing C-xyloside and blueberry extract on the appearance of type II diabetic skin</a>. <em>J Cosmet Dermatol</em>. 2009;8:147-51. <p></p></li></ul><p><em>The citation trail:</em></p><ul><li>2023 review article: Zgutka K, Tkacz M, Tomasiak, et al.<a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/12/9881"> A Role for Advanced Glycation End Products in Molecular Ageing</a>. <em>Int J Mol Sci.</em> 2023; 24: 9881. Sentence: “Interestingly, strict control of blood sugar for 4 months reduced the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling could also reduce the production of AGEs [152].”</li><li>Reference 152 is a review article: Cao C, Xiao Z, Wu Y, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146365/">Diet and Skin Aging-From the Perspective of Food Nutrition</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12:870. Sentence: “However, strict control of blood sugar for four months can reduce the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling can also reduce the production of AGEs [93–95].”</li><li>Reference 93 is a review article: Nguyen HP, Katta R. <a href="https://www.skintherapyletter.com/aging-skin/glycation/">Sugar sag: Glycation and the role of diet in aging skin</a>. <em>Skin Ther Lett</em>. 2015; 20: 1–5. Sentence: “Tight glycemic control over a 4-month period can result in a reduction of glycated collagen formation by 25%.37,38”</li><li>Reference 94 and 38 is a review article: Draelos ZD. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(13)00072-2">Aging skin: the role of diet: facts and controversies</a>. <em>Clin Dermatol</em>. 2013;31:701-6. Sentence: “Tighter glycemic control can reduce glycated collagen by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li><li>Reference 95 and 37 is a review article: Danby FW. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(10)00042-8">Nutrition and aging skin: Sugar and glycation</a>. <em>Clin. Dermatol</em>. 2010;28: 409–11. Sentence: “...tight glycemic control can drop glycated collagen formation by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li><li>The origi...</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wrinkles and sagging skin—just normal aging, or can you blame your sweet tooth? We dive into “sugar sag,” exploring how sugar, processed foods, and even your crispy breakfast toast might be making you look older than if you’d said no to chocolate cake and yes to broccoli. Along the way, we encounter statistical adjustment, training and test data sets, what we call “references to nowhere,” plus some cadavers and collagen. Ever heard of an AGE reader? Find out how this tool might offer a sneak peek at your date’s age—and maybe even a clue about his… um… “performance.”</p><p><strong>Statistical topics </strong></p><ul><li>Training and test sets</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Overfitting </li><li>Plagiarism</li><li>Proper citing practices</li><li>References to nowhere</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When you plagiarize, you steal the errors too.”</em></li><li><em>“Overdone statistical adjustment is like overdone photo filters–at a certain point it’s just laughable.”</em></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>Collagen turnover: </em></p><ul><li>Verzijl N, DeGroot J, Thorpe SR, et al.<a href="https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)55828-8/fulltext">Effect of Collagen Turnover on the Accumulation of Advanced Glycation End Products</a>. <em>JBC</em>. 2000;275:39027-31.</li></ul><p><em>Cadaver study:</em></p><ul><li>Hamlin CR, Kohn RR, Luschin JH. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/24/10/902/4787/Apparent-Accelerated-Aging-of-Human-Collagen-in">Apparent Accelerated Aging of Human Collagen in Diabetes Mellitus</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1975; 24: 902–904.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.diagnoptics.com/age-reader/"><em>AGE Reader</em></a></p><p><br></p><p><em>Studies of AGEs and diabetes and health:</em></p><ul><li>Monnier VM, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.6779377">Nonenzymatic browning in vivo: possible process for aging of long-lived proteins</a>. <em>Science</em>. 1981;211:491-3. </li><li>Brownlee M, Vlassara H, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-101-4-527">Nonenzymatic glycosylation and the pathogenesis of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 1984;101:527-37. </li><li>Monnier VM, Vishwanath V, Frank KE, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198602133140702">Relation between Complications of Type I Diabetes Mellitus and Collagen-Linked Fluorescence</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 1986;314:403-408.</li><li>Monnier VM, Sell DR, Abdul-Karim FW, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/37/7/867/9388/Collagen-Browning-and-Cross-Linking-Are-Increased">Collagen browning and cross-linking are increased in chronic experimental hyperglycemia</a>. Relevance to diabetes and aging. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1988;37:867-72. </li><li>Monnier VM, Bautista O, Kenny D, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/48/4/870/10667/Skin-collagen-glycation-glycoxidation-and">Skin collagen glycation, glycoxidation, and crosslinking are lower in subjects with long-term intensive versus conventional therapy of type 1 diabetes: relevance of glycated collagen products versus HbA1c as markers of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Diabetes</em> 1999; 48: 870–80.</li><li>Genuth S, Sun W, Cleary P, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622724/">Glycation and carboxymethyllysine levels in skin collagen predict the risk of future 10-year progression of diabetic retinopathy and nephropathy in the diabetes control and complications trial and epidemiology of diabetes interventions and complications participants with type 1 diabetes</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 2005;54:3103-11. </li><li>van Waateringe RP, Slagter SN, van Beek AP, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5450154/">Skin autofluorescence, a non-invasive biomarker for advanced glycation end products, is associated with the metabolic syndrome and its individual components</a>. <em>Diabetol Metab Syndr</em>. 2017;9:42. </li><li>Kouidrat Y, Zaitouni A, Amad A, et al.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056-8727(16)30351-8"> Skin autofluorescence (a marker for advanced glycation end products) and erectile dysfunction in diabetes</a>. <em>J Diabetes Complications</em>. 2017;3:108-113. </li><li>Fujita N, Ishida M, Iwane T, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10307664/">Association between Advanced Glycation End-Products, Carotenoids, and Severe Erectile Dysfunction</a>. <em>World J Mens Health</em>. 2023;41:701-11. </li><li>Uruska A, Gandecka A, Araszkiewicz A, et al. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dme.13921">Accumulation of advanced glycation end products in the skin is accelerated in relation to insulin resistance in people with Type 1 diabetes mellitus</a>. <em>Diabet Med</em>. 2019;36:620-625. </li><li>Boersma HE, Smit AJ, Paterson AD, et al<em>.</em> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-71037-7">Skin autofluorescence and cause-specific mortality in a population-based cohort</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em> 2024;14:19967.</li></ul><p><br><em>Review article with conflicts of interest: </em></p><ul><li>Draelos ZD. <a href="https://jddonline.com/articles/individual-article-sugar-sag-what-is-skin-glycation-and-how-do-you-combat-it-S1545961624SSF378083s5X">Sugar Sag: What Is Skin Glycation and How Do You Combat It?</a> <em>J Drugs Dermatol</em>. 2024; 23:s5-10.</li></ul><p><br><em>Clinical study on AGE interrupter cream:</em></p><ul><li>Draelos ZD, Yatskayer M, Raab S, Oresajo C. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1473-2165.2009.00428.x">An evaluation of the effect of a topical product containing C-xyloside and blueberry extract on the appearance of type II diabetic skin</a>. <em>J Cosmet Dermatol</em>. 2009;8:147-51. <p></p></li></ul><p><em>The citation trail:</em></p><ul><li>2023 review article: Zgutka K, Tkacz M, Tomasiak, et al.<a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/12/9881"> A Role for Advanced Glycation End Products in Molecular Ageing</a>. <em>Int J Mol Sci.</em> 2023; 24: 9881. Sentence: “Interestingly, strict control of blood sugar for 4 months reduced the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling could also reduce the production of AGEs [152].”</li><li>Reference 152 is a review article: Cao C, Xiao Z, Wu Y, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146365/">Diet and Skin Aging-From the Perspective of Food Nutrition</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12:870. Sentence: “However, strict control of blood sugar for four months can reduce the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling can also reduce the production of AGEs [93–95].”</li><li>Reference 93 is a review article: Nguyen HP, Katta R. <a href="https://www.skintherapyletter.com/aging-skin/glycation/">Sugar sag: Glycation and the role of diet in aging skin</a>. <em>Skin Ther Lett</em>. 2015; 20: 1–5. Sentence: “Tight glycemic control over a 4-month period can result in a reduction of glycated collagen formation by 25%.37,38”</li><li>Reference 94 and 38 is a review article: Draelos ZD. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(13)00072-2">Aging skin: the role of diet: facts and controversies</a>. <em>Clin Dermatol</em>. 2013;31:701-6. Sentence: “Tighter glycemic control can reduce glycated collagen by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li><li>Reference 95 and 37 is a review article: Danby FW. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(10)00042-8">Nutrition and aging skin: Sugar and glycation</a>. <em>Clin. Dermatol</em>. 2010;28: 409–11. Sentence: “...tight glycemic control can drop glycated collagen formation by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li><li>The origi...</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wrinkles and sagging skin—just normal aging, or can you blame your sweet tooth? We dive into “sugar sag,” exploring how sugar, processed foods, and even your crispy breakfast toast might be making you look older than if you’d said no to chocolate cake and yes to broccoli. Along the way, we encounter statistical adjustment, training and test data sets, what we call “references to nowhere,” plus some cadavers and collagen. Ever heard of an AGE reader? Find out how this tool might offer a sneak peek at your date’s age—and maybe even a clue about his… um… “performance.”</p><p><strong>Statistical topics </strong></p><ul><li>Training and test sets</li><li>Statistical adjustment</li><li>Overfitting </li><li>Plagiarism</li><li>Proper citing practices</li><li>References to nowhere</li></ul><p><br><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“When you plagiarize, you steal the errors too.”</em></li><li><em>“Overdone statistical adjustment is like overdone photo filters–at a certain point it’s just laughable.”</em></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>Collagen turnover: </em></p><ul><li>Verzijl N, DeGroot J, Thorpe SR, et al.<a href="https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)55828-8/fulltext">Effect of Collagen Turnover on the Accumulation of Advanced Glycation End Products</a>. <em>JBC</em>. 2000;275:39027-31.</li></ul><p><em>Cadaver study:</em></p><ul><li>Hamlin CR, Kohn RR, Luschin JH. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/24/10/902/4787/Apparent-Accelerated-Aging-of-Human-Collagen-in">Apparent Accelerated Aging of Human Collagen in Diabetes Mellitus</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1975; 24: 902–904.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.diagnoptics.com/age-reader/"><em>AGE Reader</em></a></p><p><br></p><p><em>Studies of AGEs and diabetes and health:</em></p><ul><li>Monnier VM, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.6779377">Nonenzymatic browning in vivo: possible process for aging of long-lived proteins</a>. <em>Science</em>. 1981;211:491-3. </li><li>Brownlee M, Vlassara H, Cerami A. <a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-101-4-527">Nonenzymatic glycosylation and the pathogenesis of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 1984;101:527-37. </li><li>Monnier VM, Vishwanath V, Frank KE, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198602133140702">Relation between Complications of Type I Diabetes Mellitus and Collagen-Linked Fluorescence</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 1986;314:403-408.</li><li>Monnier VM, Sell DR, Abdul-Karim FW, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/37/7/867/9388/Collagen-Browning-and-Cross-Linking-Are-Increased">Collagen browning and cross-linking are increased in chronic experimental hyperglycemia</a>. Relevance to diabetes and aging. <em>Diabetes</em>. 1988;37:867-72. </li><li>Monnier VM, Bautista O, Kenny D, et al. <a href="https://diabetesjournals.org/diabetes/article/48/4/870/10667/Skin-collagen-glycation-glycoxidation-and">Skin collagen glycation, glycoxidation, and crosslinking are lower in subjects with long-term intensive versus conventional therapy of type 1 diabetes: relevance of glycated collagen products versus HbA1c as markers of diabetic complications</a>. <em>Diabetes</em> 1999; 48: 870–80.</li><li>Genuth S, Sun W, Cleary P, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2622724/">Glycation and carboxymethyllysine levels in skin collagen predict the risk of future 10-year progression of diabetic retinopathy and nephropathy in the diabetes control and complications trial and epidemiology of diabetes interventions and complications participants with type 1 diabetes</a>. <em>Diabetes</em>. 2005;54:3103-11. </li><li>van Waateringe RP, Slagter SN, van Beek AP, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5450154/">Skin autofluorescence, a non-invasive biomarker for advanced glycation end products, is associated with the metabolic syndrome and its individual components</a>. <em>Diabetol Metab Syndr</em>. 2017;9:42. </li><li>Kouidrat Y, Zaitouni A, Amad A, et al.<a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056-8727(16)30351-8"> Skin autofluorescence (a marker for advanced glycation end products) and erectile dysfunction in diabetes</a>. <em>J Diabetes Complications</em>. 2017;3:108-113. </li><li>Fujita N, Ishida M, Iwane T, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10307664/">Association between Advanced Glycation End-Products, Carotenoids, and Severe Erectile Dysfunction</a>. <em>World J Mens Health</em>. 2023;41:701-11. </li><li>Uruska A, Gandecka A, Araszkiewicz A, et al. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dme.13921">Accumulation of advanced glycation end products in the skin is accelerated in relation to insulin resistance in people with Type 1 diabetes mellitus</a>. <em>Diabet Med</em>. 2019;36:620-625. </li><li>Boersma HE, Smit AJ, Paterson AD, et al<em>.</em> <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-71037-7">Skin autofluorescence and cause-specific mortality in a population-based cohort</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em> 2024;14:19967.</li></ul><p><br><em>Review article with conflicts of interest: </em></p><ul><li>Draelos ZD. <a href="https://jddonline.com/articles/individual-article-sugar-sag-what-is-skin-glycation-and-how-do-you-combat-it-S1545961624SSF378083s5X">Sugar Sag: What Is Skin Glycation and How Do You Combat It?</a> <em>J Drugs Dermatol</em>. 2024; 23:s5-10.</li></ul><p><br><em>Clinical study on AGE interrupter cream:</em></p><ul><li>Draelos ZD, Yatskayer M, Raab S, Oresajo C. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1473-2165.2009.00428.x">An evaluation of the effect of a topical product containing C-xyloside and blueberry extract on the appearance of type II diabetic skin</a>. <em>J Cosmet Dermatol</em>. 2009;8:147-51. <p></p></li></ul><p><em>The citation trail:</em></p><ul><li>2023 review article: Zgutka K, Tkacz M, Tomasiak, et al.<a href="https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/12/9881"> A Role for Advanced Glycation End Products in Molecular Ageing</a>. <em>Int J Mol Sci.</em> 2023; 24: 9881. Sentence: “Interestingly, strict control of blood sugar for 4 months reduced the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling could also reduce the production of AGEs [152].”</li><li>Reference 152 is a review article: Cao C, Xiao Z, Wu Y, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7146365/">Diet and Skin Aging-From the Perspective of Food Nutrition</a>. <em>Nutrients</em>. 2020;12:870. Sentence: “However, strict control of blood sugar for four months can reduce the production of glycosylated collagen by 25%, and low-sugar food prepared by boiling can also reduce the production of AGEs [93–95].”</li><li>Reference 93 is a review article: Nguyen HP, Katta R. <a href="https://www.skintherapyletter.com/aging-skin/glycation/">Sugar sag: Glycation and the role of diet in aging skin</a>. <em>Skin Ther Lett</em>. 2015; 20: 1–5. Sentence: “Tight glycemic control over a 4-month period can result in a reduction of glycated collagen formation by 25%.37,38”</li><li>Reference 94 and 38 is a review article: Draelos ZD. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(13)00072-2">Aging skin: the role of diet: facts and controversies</a>. <em>Clin Dermatol</em>. 2013;31:701-6. Sentence: “Tighter glycemic control can reduce glycated collagen by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li><li>Reference 95 and 37 is a review article: Danby FW. <a href="https://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0738-081X(10)00042-8">Nutrition and aging skin: Sugar and glycation</a>. <em>Clin. Dermatol</em>. 2010;28: 409–11. Sentence: “...tight glycemic control can drop glycated collagen formation by 25% in 4 months.” No citation given.</li><li>The origi...</li></ul>]]>
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      <title>Hookworms: Can parasites improve your health? </title>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Hookworms: Can parasites improve your health? </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if you could treat your prediabetes with . . . worms? Regina and Kristin dive into a surprising early-phase clinical trial on hookworm therapy—that’s right, intentionally infecting yourself with parasitic worms—to treat metabolic conditions. They dig into the biological rationale (inflammation, abdominal fat, and gut immunology), the clever study design (hello, Tabasco sauce!), and the statistical chops behind this phase 1B trial (block randomization, missing data, and nonparametric hypothesis tests).  Along the way, expect self-experimenting scientists, worm sex, poop analysis, and the world’s nerdiest aphrodisiac: a well-documented protocol. </p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Randomized controlled trial (RCT)</li><li>Primary and secondary outcomes</li><li>Placebos, placebo effect, and nocebo effect</li><li>Block randomization</li><li>Sample size</li><li>Double-blinding</li><li>Missing data protocols</li><li>Reproducible research</li><li>Nonparametric hypothesis testing</li><li>Kruskal-Wallis test</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“Walk before you can run. Invest in simple but high-quality Phase I clinical trials.”</em></li><li><em>“When faced with small samples, you better rank and sum, baby.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Pierce DR, McDonald M, Merone L, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37495576/">Effect of experimental hookworm infection on insulin resistance in people at risk of type 2 diabetes</a>. <em>Nat Commun</em>. 2023;14(1):4503. doi:10.1038/s41467-023-40263-4</li><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://www.thehealthy.com/healthcare/doctors/scientists-self-experiment/">What Happens When Scientists Experiment on Themselves?</a> <em>Reader’s Digest</em>. Updated April 16, 2016.</li><li><a href="https://publicationethics.org/guidance/case/ethics-self-experimentation">Ethics of self-experimentation</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.helminthictherapywiki.org/wiki/Helminthic_Therapy_Wiki">Helminthic Therapy Wiki</a> </li><li>Pritchard D. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5DcdZbnGA"><em>Worming your way to good health</em> [video online]</a>. <em>TEDx Talks</em>. Published November 19, 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5DcdZbnGA</li><li>Chapman PR, Giacomin P, Loukas A, McCarthy JS. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pntd.0009908">Experimental human hookworm infection: a narrative historical review</a>. <em>PLoS Negl Trop Dis</em>. 2021;15(12):e0009908. doi:10.1371/journal.pntd.0009908</li><li>Sobotková K, Parker W, Levá J, Růžková J, Lukeš J, Jirků Pomajbíková K. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31153721/">Helminth Therapy - From the Parasite Perspective</a>. <em>Trends Parasitol. </em>2019;35(7):501-515. doi:10.1016/<a href="http://j.pt">j.pt</a>.2019.04.009</li><li>Zatterale F, Longo M, Naderi J, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7000657/">Chronic Adipose Tissue Inflammation Linking Obesity to Insulin Resistance and Type 2 Diabetes</a>. <em>Front Physiol. </em>2020;10:1607. Published 2020 Jan 29. doi:10.3389/fphys.2019.01607</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses<br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Program we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p></p><ul><li>(02:44) - What happens when scientists experiment on themselves</li>
<li>(06:56) - Mail-order DIY helminthic therapy</li>
<li>(09:26) - Hookworm biology</li>
<li>(15:53) - Inflammation, abdominal fat, immune system, and hookworms</li>
<li>(22:26) - Hookworm therapy clinical trial design</li>
<li>(26:57) - Clinical trial phases deep dive</li>
<li>(32:21) - Interesting placebos (sham surgeries and psychedelics)</li>
<li>(38:30) - Excitement over hookworm trial open data and data protocols</li>
<li>(45:42) - Hookworm trial results</li>
<li>(49:45) - Mood and well-being with hookworms</li>
<li>(54:23) - Effects of hookworms on weight</li>
<li>(57:06) - Nonparametric tests and how they work</li>
<li>(01:03:53) - What the participants did after the study</li>
<li>(01:05:50) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if you could treat your prediabetes with . . . worms? Regina and Kristin dive into a surprising early-phase clinical trial on hookworm therapy—that’s right, intentionally infecting yourself with parasitic worms—to treat metabolic conditions. They dig into the biological rationale (inflammation, abdominal fat, and gut immunology), the clever study design (hello, Tabasco sauce!), and the statistical chops behind this phase 1B trial (block randomization, missing data, and nonparametric hypothesis tests).  Along the way, expect self-experimenting scientists, worm sex, poop analysis, and the world’s nerdiest aphrodisiac: a well-documented protocol. </p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Randomized controlled trial (RCT)</li><li>Primary and secondary outcomes</li><li>Placebos, placebo effect, and nocebo effect</li><li>Block randomization</li><li>Sample size</li><li>Double-blinding</li><li>Missing data protocols</li><li>Reproducible research</li><li>Nonparametric hypothesis testing</li><li>Kruskal-Wallis test</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“Walk before you can run. Invest in simple but high-quality Phase I clinical trials.”</em></li><li><em>“When faced with small samples, you better rank and sum, baby.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Pierce DR, McDonald M, Merone L, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37495576/">Effect of experimental hookworm infection on insulin resistance in people at risk of type 2 diabetes</a>. <em>Nat Commun</em>. 2023;14(1):4503. doi:10.1038/s41467-023-40263-4</li><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://www.thehealthy.com/healthcare/doctors/scientists-self-experiment/">What Happens When Scientists Experiment on Themselves?</a> <em>Reader’s Digest</em>. Updated April 16, 2016.</li><li><a href="https://publicationethics.org/guidance/case/ethics-self-experimentation">Ethics of self-experimentation</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.helminthictherapywiki.org/wiki/Helminthic_Therapy_Wiki">Helminthic Therapy Wiki</a> </li><li>Pritchard D. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5DcdZbnGA"><em>Worming your way to good health</em> [video online]</a>. <em>TEDx Talks</em>. Published November 19, 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5DcdZbnGA</li><li>Chapman PR, Giacomin P, Loukas A, McCarthy JS. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pntd.0009908">Experimental human hookworm infection: a narrative historical review</a>. <em>PLoS Negl Trop Dis</em>. 2021;15(12):e0009908. doi:10.1371/journal.pntd.0009908</li><li>Sobotková K, Parker W, Levá J, Růžková J, Lukeš J, Jirků Pomajbíková K. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31153721/">Helminth Therapy - From the Parasite Perspective</a>. <em>Trends Parasitol. </em>2019;35(7):501-515. doi:10.1016/<a href="http://j.pt">j.pt</a>.2019.04.009</li><li>Zatterale F, Longo M, Naderi J, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7000657/">Chronic Adipose Tissue Inflammation Linking Obesity to Insulin Resistance and Type 2 Diabetes</a>. <em>Front Physiol. </em>2020;10:1607. Published 2020 Jan 29. doi:10.3389/fphys.2019.01607</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses<br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Program we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p></p><ul><li>(02:44) - What happens when scientists experiment on themselves</li>
<li>(06:56) - Mail-order DIY helminthic therapy</li>
<li>(09:26) - Hookworm biology</li>
<li>(15:53) - Inflammation, abdominal fat, immune system, and hookworms</li>
<li>(22:26) - Hookworm therapy clinical trial design</li>
<li>(26:57) - Clinical trial phases deep dive</li>
<li>(32:21) - Interesting placebos (sham surgeries and psychedelics)</li>
<li>(38:30) - Excitement over hookworm trial open data and data protocols</li>
<li>(45:42) - Hookworm trial results</li>
<li>(49:45) - Mood and well-being with hookworms</li>
<li>(54:23) - Effects of hookworms on weight</li>
<li>(57:06) - Nonparametric tests and how they work</li>
<li>(01:03:53) - What the participants did after the study</li>
<li>(01:05:50) - Wrap-up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if you could treat your prediabetes with . . . worms? Regina and Kristin dive into a surprising early-phase clinical trial on hookworm therapy—that’s right, intentionally infecting yourself with parasitic worms—to treat metabolic conditions. They dig into the biological rationale (inflammation, abdominal fat, and gut immunology), the clever study design (hello, Tabasco sauce!), and the statistical chops behind this phase 1B trial (block randomization, missing data, and nonparametric hypothesis tests).  Along the way, expect self-experimenting scientists, worm sex, poop analysis, and the world’s nerdiest aphrodisiac: a well-documented protocol. </p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Randomized controlled trial (RCT)</li><li>Primary and secondary outcomes</li><li>Placebos, placebo effect, and nocebo effect</li><li>Block randomization</li><li>Sample size</li><li>Double-blinding</li><li>Missing data protocols</li><li>Reproducible research</li><li>Nonparametric hypothesis testing</li><li>Kruskal-Wallis test</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><ul><li><em>“Walk before you can run. Invest in simple but high-quality Phase I clinical trials.”</em></li><li><em>“When faced with small samples, you better rank and sum, baby.”</em></li></ul><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Pierce DR, McDonald M, Merone L, et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37495576/">Effect of experimental hookworm infection on insulin resistance in people at risk of type 2 diabetes</a>. <em>Nat Commun</em>. 2023;14(1):4503. doi:10.1038/s41467-023-40263-4</li><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://www.thehealthy.com/healthcare/doctors/scientists-self-experiment/">What Happens When Scientists Experiment on Themselves?</a> <em>Reader’s Digest</em>. Updated April 16, 2016.</li><li><a href="https://publicationethics.org/guidance/case/ethics-self-experimentation">Ethics of self-experimentation</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.helminthictherapywiki.org/wiki/Helminthic_Therapy_Wiki">Helminthic Therapy Wiki</a> </li><li>Pritchard D. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5DcdZbnGA"><em>Worming your way to good health</em> [video online]</a>. <em>TEDx Talks</em>. Published November 19, 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5DcdZbnGA</li><li>Chapman PR, Giacomin P, Loukas A, McCarthy JS. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pntd.0009908">Experimental human hookworm infection: a narrative historical review</a>. <em>PLoS Negl Trop Dis</em>. 2021;15(12):e0009908. doi:10.1371/journal.pntd.0009908</li><li>Sobotková K, Parker W, Levá J, Růžková J, Lukeš J, Jirků Pomajbíková K. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31153721/">Helminth Therapy - From the Parasite Perspective</a>. <em>Trends Parasitol. </em>2019;35(7):501-515. doi:10.1016/<a href="http://j.pt">j.pt</a>.2019.04.009</li><li>Zatterale F, Longo M, Naderi J, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7000657/">Chronic Adipose Tissue Inflammation Linking Obesity to Insulin Resistance and Type 2 Diabetes</a>. <em>Front Physiol. </em>2020;10:1607. Published 2020 Jan 29. doi:10.3389/fphys.2019.01607</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses<br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Program we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p></p><ul><li>(02:44) - What happens when scientists experiment on themselves</li>
<li>(06:56) - Mail-order DIY helminthic therapy</li>
<li>(09:26) - Hookworm biology</li>
<li>(15:53) - Inflammation, abdominal fat, immune system, and hookworms</li>
<li>(22:26) - Hookworm therapy clinical trial design</li>
<li>(26:57) - Clinical trial phases deep dive</li>
<li>(32:21) - Interesting placebos (sham surgeries and psychedelics)</li>
<li>(38:30) - Excitement over hookworm trial open data and data protocols</li>
<li>(45:42) - Hookworm trial results</li>
<li>(49:45) - Mood and well-being with hookworms</li>
<li>(54:23) - Effects of hookworms on weight</li>
<li>(57:06) - Nonparametric tests and how they work</li>
<li>(01:03:53) - What the participants did after the study</li>
<li>(01:05:50) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul><br>]]>
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      <title>Alcohol: Are happy hours good for your heart?</title>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>6</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Alcohol: Are happy hours good for your heart?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does a daily glass of wine really keep the cardiologist away? It’s a claim we’ve all heard: light to moderate drinking is good for your heart. But is it science or just a convenient excuse for happy hour? In this episode, we dive into the history behind this claim, discuss the challenges of observational studies and statistical adjustment, and explore attempts at randomized trials and natural experiments to get to the bottom of this boozy debate. Grab your drink—or maybe don’t—and join us! </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Statistical Adjustment</li><li>Regression</li><li>Residual and Unmeasured Confounding</li><li>Randomized Trials</li><li>Multiple Testing</li><li>Outcome Switching</li><li>Mendelian Randomization </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><em>“Statistical adjustment cannot erase all confounding.”</em></p><p><em>“When you can’t experiment on people, let Nature experiment on people.”</em></p><p><br><strong>Citations</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1582/alcohol-drinking.aspx">Alcohol and Drinking</a>. <em>Gallup Poll</em>. 2024. </li><li><a href="https://www.ccsa.ca/canadas-guidance-alcohol-and-health">Canada’s Guidance on Alcohol and Health</a>. <em>Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction</em>. 2023.  </li><li>U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. <a href="https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietary-guidelines-online-materials"><em>2020 – 2025 Dietary Guidelines for Americans</em></a>. 2020.</li><li>U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. <a href="https://www.hhs.gov/surgeongeneral/priorities/alcohol-cancer/index.html"><em>Alcohol and Cancer Risk: The US Surgeon General's Advisory</em>.</a> 2025.</li><li>Mezue K, Osborne MT, Abohashem S, et al.<a href="https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2023.04.015"> Reduced stress-related neural network activity mediates the effect of alcohol on cardiovascular risk</a>. <em>JACC</em>. 2023;81:2315-25.</li><li>McPhillips D, Goodman B.<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/health/alcohol-stress-heart-disease/index.html"> Small amounts of alcohol may turn down stress in the brain, benefiting the heart, new study finds</a>. <em>CNN. </em>June 12, 2023.</li><li>Friedman GD, Klatsky AL.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM199312163292510"> Is alcohol good for your health?</a> <em>NEJM</em>. 1993;329:1882-3.</li><li>Sainani K.<a href="https://www.allure.com/story/alcohol-and-weight"> Alcohol and Weight</a>. <em>Allure</em>. July 14, 2010.</li><li>Wang LU, Lee IM, Manson JE, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/415737"> Alcohol consumption, weight gain, and risk of becoming overweight in middle-aged and older women</a>. <em>Arch Intern Med.</em> 2010;170:453-61.</li><li>Sainani K. <a href="https://www.allure.com/story/drinking-weight">Drinking and Weight</a>. <em>Allure</em>. Oct 31, 2008.</li><li>Tolstrup JS, Halkjær J, Heitmann BL, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523235662"> Alcohol drinking frequency in relation to subsequent changes in waist circumference</a>. <em>Am J Clin Nutr</em>. 2008;87:957-63.</li><li>Rabin RC.<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/health/alcohol-nih-drinking.html"> Major Study on Drinking Will be Shut Down</a>. <em>New York Times. </em>June 15, 2018.</li><li>Mitchell G, Lesch M, McCambridge J.<a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305508"> Alcohol industry involvement in the moderate alcohol and cardiovascular health trial</a>. <em>AJPH</em>. 2020;110:485-8.</li><li>Gepner Y, Golan R, Harman-Boehm I, et al.<a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M14-1650"> Effects of Initiating Moderate Alcohol Intake on Cardiometabolic Risk in Adults With Type 2 Diabetes: A 2-Year Randomized, Controlled Trial</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 2015;163:569-79.</li><li>Slade E, Drysdale H, Goldacre B, et al.<a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L15-0614"> Discrepancies between prespecified and reported outcomes</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 2016;164:374.</li><li>Biddinger KJ, Emdin CA, Haas ME, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/article-abstract/2790520"> Association of habitual alcohol intake with risk of cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2022;5:e223849.</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-alcohol-episode/"><strong>Page with more details on the CASCADE trial</strong></a><strong> </strong></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Program that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(03:00) - Drinking habits in America</li>
<li>(04:13) - New Canadian drinking guidelines</li>
<li>(07:51) - Definition of light-to-moderate drinking</li>
<li>(08:43) - Risks and benefits of light-to-moderate drinking</li>
<li>(11:37) - History of the heart health claim</li>
<li>(18:34) - Problems with observational studies</li>
<li>(23:37) - Statistical adjustment</li>
<li>(26:36) - Residual and unmeasured confounding</li>
<li>(32:16) - Overconfidence in observational studies</li>
<li>(36:13) - Randomized trials of alcohol</li>
<li>(37:29) - Canceled NIH randomized trial of alcohol</li>
<li>(42:39) - The CASCADE randomized trial of wine</li>
<li>(44:15) - The problem of multiple testing</li>
<li>(48:53) - Outcome switching</li>
<li>(50:29) - Mendelian randomization</li>
<li>(01:00:01) - Mendelian randomization studies of alcohol and heart disease</li>
<li>(01:04:06) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does a daily glass of wine really keep the cardiologist away? It’s a claim we’ve all heard: light to moderate drinking is good for your heart. But is it science or just a convenient excuse for happy hour? In this episode, we dive into the history behind this claim, discuss the challenges of observational studies and statistical adjustment, and explore attempts at randomized trials and natural experiments to get to the bottom of this boozy debate. Grab your drink—or maybe don’t—and join us! </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Statistical Adjustment</li><li>Regression</li><li>Residual and Unmeasured Confounding</li><li>Randomized Trials</li><li>Multiple Testing</li><li>Outcome Switching</li><li>Mendelian Randomization </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><em>“Statistical adjustment cannot erase all confounding.”</em></p><p><em>“When you can’t experiment on people, let Nature experiment on people.”</em></p><p><br><strong>Citations</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1582/alcohol-drinking.aspx">Alcohol and Drinking</a>. <em>Gallup Poll</em>. 2024. </li><li><a href="https://www.ccsa.ca/canadas-guidance-alcohol-and-health">Canada’s Guidance on Alcohol and Health</a>. <em>Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction</em>. 2023.  </li><li>U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. <a href="https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietary-guidelines-online-materials"><em>2020 – 2025 Dietary Guidelines for Americans</em></a>. 2020.</li><li>U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. <a href="https://www.hhs.gov/surgeongeneral/priorities/alcohol-cancer/index.html"><em>Alcohol and Cancer Risk: The US Surgeon General's Advisory</em>.</a> 2025.</li><li>Mezue K, Osborne MT, Abohashem S, et al.<a href="https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2023.04.015"> Reduced stress-related neural network activity mediates the effect of alcohol on cardiovascular risk</a>. <em>JACC</em>. 2023;81:2315-25.</li><li>McPhillips D, Goodman B.<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/health/alcohol-stress-heart-disease/index.html"> Small amounts of alcohol may turn down stress in the brain, benefiting the heart, new study finds</a>. <em>CNN. </em>June 12, 2023.</li><li>Friedman GD, Klatsky AL.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM199312163292510"> Is alcohol good for your health?</a> <em>NEJM</em>. 1993;329:1882-3.</li><li>Sainani K.<a href="https://www.allure.com/story/alcohol-and-weight"> Alcohol and Weight</a>. <em>Allure</em>. July 14, 2010.</li><li>Wang LU, Lee IM, Manson JE, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/415737"> Alcohol consumption, weight gain, and risk of becoming overweight in middle-aged and older women</a>. <em>Arch Intern Med.</em> 2010;170:453-61.</li><li>Sainani K. <a href="https://www.allure.com/story/drinking-weight">Drinking and Weight</a>. <em>Allure</em>. Oct 31, 2008.</li><li>Tolstrup JS, Halkjær J, Heitmann BL, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523235662"> Alcohol drinking frequency in relation to subsequent changes in waist circumference</a>. <em>Am J Clin Nutr</em>. 2008;87:957-63.</li><li>Rabin RC.<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/health/alcohol-nih-drinking.html"> Major Study on Drinking Will be Shut Down</a>. <em>New York Times. </em>June 15, 2018.</li><li>Mitchell G, Lesch M, McCambridge J.<a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305508"> Alcohol industry involvement in the moderate alcohol and cardiovascular health trial</a>. <em>AJPH</em>. 2020;110:485-8.</li><li>Gepner Y, Golan R, Harman-Boehm I, et al.<a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M14-1650"> Effects of Initiating Moderate Alcohol Intake on Cardiometabolic Risk in Adults With Type 2 Diabetes: A 2-Year Randomized, Controlled Trial</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 2015;163:569-79.</li><li>Slade E, Drysdale H, Goldacre B, et al.<a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L15-0614"> Discrepancies between prespecified and reported outcomes</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 2016;164:374.</li><li>Biddinger KJ, Emdin CA, Haas ME, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/article-abstract/2790520"> Association of habitual alcohol intake with risk of cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2022;5:e223849.</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-alcohol-episode/"><strong>Page with more details on the CASCADE trial</strong></a><strong> </strong></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Program that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(03:00) - Drinking habits in America</li>
<li>(04:13) - New Canadian drinking guidelines</li>
<li>(07:51) - Definition of light-to-moderate drinking</li>
<li>(08:43) - Risks and benefits of light-to-moderate drinking</li>
<li>(11:37) - History of the heart health claim</li>
<li>(18:34) - Problems with observational studies</li>
<li>(23:37) - Statistical adjustment</li>
<li>(26:36) - Residual and unmeasured confounding</li>
<li>(32:16) - Overconfidence in observational studies</li>
<li>(36:13) - Randomized trials of alcohol</li>
<li>(37:29) - Canceled NIH randomized trial of alcohol</li>
<li>(42:39) - The CASCADE randomized trial of wine</li>
<li>(44:15) - The problem of multiple testing</li>
<li>(48:53) - Outcome switching</li>
<li>(50:29) - Mendelian randomization</li>
<li>(01:00:01) - Mendelian randomization studies of alcohol and heart disease</li>
<li>(01:04:06) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does a daily glass of wine really keep the cardiologist away? It’s a claim we’ve all heard: light to moderate drinking is good for your heart. But is it science or just a convenient excuse for happy hour? In this episode, we dive into the history behind this claim, discuss the challenges of observational studies and statistical adjustment, and explore attempts at randomized trials and natural experiments to get to the bottom of this boozy debate. Grab your drink—or maybe don’t—and join us! </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Statistical Adjustment</li><li>Regression</li><li>Residual and Unmeasured Confounding</li><li>Randomized Trials</li><li>Multiple Testing</li><li>Outcome Switching</li><li>Mendelian Randomization </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><em>“Statistical adjustment cannot erase all confounding.”</em></p><p><em>“When you can’t experiment on people, let Nature experiment on people.”</em></p><p><br><strong>Citations</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/1582/alcohol-drinking.aspx">Alcohol and Drinking</a>. <em>Gallup Poll</em>. 2024. </li><li><a href="https://www.ccsa.ca/canadas-guidance-alcohol-and-health">Canada’s Guidance on Alcohol and Health</a>. <em>Canadian Centre on Substance Use and Addiction</em>. 2023.  </li><li>U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. <a href="https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/resources/2020-2025-dietary-guidelines-online-materials"><em>2020 – 2025 Dietary Guidelines for Americans</em></a>. 2020.</li><li>U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. <a href="https://www.hhs.gov/surgeongeneral/priorities/alcohol-cancer/index.html"><em>Alcohol and Cancer Risk: The US Surgeon General's Advisory</em>.</a> 2025.</li><li>Mezue K, Osborne MT, Abohashem S, et al.<a href="https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2023.04.015"> Reduced stress-related neural network activity mediates the effect of alcohol on cardiovascular risk</a>. <em>JACC</em>. 2023;81:2315-25.</li><li>McPhillips D, Goodman B.<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/12/health/alcohol-stress-heart-disease/index.html"> Small amounts of alcohol may turn down stress in the brain, benefiting the heart, new study finds</a>. <em>CNN. </em>June 12, 2023.</li><li>Friedman GD, Klatsky AL.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM199312163292510"> Is alcohol good for your health?</a> <em>NEJM</em>. 1993;329:1882-3.</li><li>Sainani K.<a href="https://www.allure.com/story/alcohol-and-weight"> Alcohol and Weight</a>. <em>Allure</em>. July 14, 2010.</li><li>Wang LU, Lee IM, Manson JE, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/415737"> Alcohol consumption, weight gain, and risk of becoming overweight in middle-aged and older women</a>. <em>Arch Intern Med.</em> 2010;170:453-61.</li><li>Sainani K. <a href="https://www.allure.com/story/drinking-weight">Drinking and Weight</a>. <em>Allure</em>. Oct 31, 2008.</li><li>Tolstrup JS, Halkjær J, Heitmann BL, et al.<a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523235662"> Alcohol drinking frequency in relation to subsequent changes in waist circumference</a>. <em>Am J Clin Nutr</em>. 2008;87:957-63.</li><li>Rabin RC.<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/health/alcohol-nih-drinking.html"> Major Study on Drinking Will be Shut Down</a>. <em>New York Times. </em>June 15, 2018.</li><li>Mitchell G, Lesch M, McCambridge J.<a href="https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305508"> Alcohol industry involvement in the moderate alcohol and cardiovascular health trial</a>. <em>AJPH</em>. 2020;110:485-8.</li><li>Gepner Y, Golan R, Harman-Boehm I, et al.<a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M14-1650"> Effects of Initiating Moderate Alcohol Intake on Cardiometabolic Risk in Adults With Type 2 Diabetes: A 2-Year Randomized, Controlled Trial</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 2015;163:569-79.</li><li>Slade E, Drysdale H, Goldacre B, et al.<a href="https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L15-0614"> Discrepancies between prespecified and reported outcomes</a>. <em>Ann Intern Med</em>. 2016;164:374.</li><li>Biddinger KJ, Emdin CA, Haas ME, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/article-abstract/2790520"> Association of habitual alcohol intake with risk of cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>JAMA Netw Open</em>. 2022;5:e223849.</li></ul><p><br><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-alcohol-episode/"><strong>Page with more details on the CASCADE trial</strong></a><strong> </strong></p><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </li><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </li><li><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Program that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(03:00) - Drinking habits in America</li>
<li>(04:13) - New Canadian drinking guidelines</li>
<li>(07:51) - Definition of light-to-moderate drinking</li>
<li>(08:43) - Risks and benefits of light-to-moderate drinking</li>
<li>(11:37) - History of the heart health claim</li>
<li>(18:34) - Problems with observational studies</li>
<li>(23:37) - Statistical adjustment</li>
<li>(26:36) - Residual and unmeasured confounding</li>
<li>(32:16) - Overconfidence in observational studies</li>
<li>(36:13) - Randomized trials of alcohol</li>
<li>(37:29) - Canceled NIH randomized trial of alcohol</li>
<li>(42:39) - The CASCADE randomized trial of wine</li>
<li>(44:15) - The problem of multiple testing</li>
<li>(48:53) - Outcome switching</li>
<li>(50:29) - Mendelian randomization</li>
<li>(01:00:01) - Mendelian randomization studies of alcohol and heart disease</li>
<li>(01:04:06) - Wrap-up</li>
</ul>]]>
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      <title>The Red Dress Effect: Are women in red sexier?</title>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>5</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Red Dress Effect: Are women in red sexier?</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wear red and drive men wild with lust – or so says scientific research on color’s role in human mating. But can a simple color swap really boost a woman’s hotness score? In this episode, we delve into the evidence behind the Red Dress Effect, from a controversial first study in college men to what the latest research says about who this trick might work for (and who it might not). Along the way we encounter red monkey butts, old-Internet websites, the Winner’s Curse in scientific research, adversarial collaborations, and why size (ahem, sample size) really does matter. </p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Reproducibility crisis in psychology</li><li>Sample size</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Winner’s curse</li><li>Cohen’s d standardized effect size</li><li>Adversarial collaboration</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Preregistration</li><li>Publication bias</li><li>Statistical moderators</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“The smaller the sample, the flashier the result, the less you should trust it.”</em></p><p><em>“Good scientists learn from their statistical mistakes and fix them.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Clarke, G. <a href="https://archive.ph/CfJ2v">How to Be Sexy: 7 Weird (But True) Rules of Attraction</a>. <em>Allure</em>. January 23, 2013.</li><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/FOVWz">Vying for a soul mate? Psych out the competition with science</a><em>. Los Angeles Times. </em>December 8, 2008. </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At4hJ1ydqCM">Vying for a Soul Mate </a>on the Today Show, December 30, 2008.</li><li>Elliot, A.J. and Niesta, D. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18954199/">Romantic red: red enhances men's attraction to women.</a> <em> Journal of personality and social psychology</em>. 2008; 95: 1150 – 1164. </li><li>Lehrer, J. <a href="https://archive.ph/2gj5T">The Truth Wears Off</a>. <em>The</em> <em>New Yorker</em>, December 5, 2010. </li><li>MacMahon, B., Yen, S., Trichopoulos, D., Warren, K. and Nardi, G. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198103123041102">Coffee and cancer of the pancreas</a>. <em>New England Journal of Medicine</em>. 1981; <em>304</em>: 630-633.</li><li>Ioannidis, J.P. <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124">Why most published research findings are false</a>. PLoS medicine. 2005; 2(8), e124 </li><li>Lehmann, G.K., Elliot, A.J. and Calin-Jageman, R.J. <a href="https://journals-sagepub-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/doi/10.1177/1474704918802412">Meta-analysis of the effect of red on perceived attractiveness</a>. <em>Evolutionary Psychology</em>. 2018; <em>16</em>: 1474704918802412. </li><li>Pazda, A.D., Thorstenson, C.A. and Elliot, A.J. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-021-02045-3">The effect of red on attractiveness for highly attractive women</a>. <em>Curr Psychol</em>. 2023; 42: 8066–8073</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a><br> </p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(06:04) - Red Dress Effect on TV</li>
<li>(10:01) - Red Monkey Butts</li>
<li>(12:56) - 2008 Study on Romantic Red</li>
<li>(16:04) - HotOrNot.com</li>
<li>(20:10) - 2008 Study Results</li>
<li>(26:07) - Cohen’s d Standardized Effect Size</li>
<li>(31:49) - Problems with Small Sample Sizes</li>
<li>(35:09) - Winner’s Curse and Publication Bias</li>
<li>(39:37) - Reproducibility Crisis</li>
<li>(45:00) - Adversarial Collaboration </li>
<li>(49:58) - Meta-Analysis and Pre-Registration</li>
<li>(56:20) - Adversarial Discussion Sections and Updates</li>
<li>(01:03:52) - Latest Red Study</li>
<li>(01:07:23) - Wrap-Up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wear red and drive men wild with lust – or so says scientific research on color’s role in human mating. But can a simple color swap really boost a woman’s hotness score? In this episode, we delve into the evidence behind the Red Dress Effect, from a controversial first study in college men to what the latest research says about who this trick might work for (and who it might not). Along the way we encounter red monkey butts, old-Internet websites, the Winner’s Curse in scientific research, adversarial collaborations, and why size (ahem, sample size) really does matter. </p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Reproducibility crisis in psychology</li><li>Sample size</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Winner’s curse</li><li>Cohen’s d standardized effect size</li><li>Adversarial collaboration</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Preregistration</li><li>Publication bias</li><li>Statistical moderators</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“The smaller the sample, the flashier the result, the less you should trust it.”</em></p><p><em>“Good scientists learn from their statistical mistakes and fix them.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Clarke, G. <a href="https://archive.ph/CfJ2v">How to Be Sexy: 7 Weird (But True) Rules of Attraction</a>. <em>Allure</em>. January 23, 2013.</li><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/FOVWz">Vying for a soul mate? Psych out the competition with science</a><em>. Los Angeles Times. </em>December 8, 2008. </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At4hJ1ydqCM">Vying for a Soul Mate </a>on the Today Show, December 30, 2008.</li><li>Elliot, A.J. and Niesta, D. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18954199/">Romantic red: red enhances men's attraction to women.</a> <em> Journal of personality and social psychology</em>. 2008; 95: 1150 – 1164. </li><li>Lehrer, J. <a href="https://archive.ph/2gj5T">The Truth Wears Off</a>. <em>The</em> <em>New Yorker</em>, December 5, 2010. </li><li>MacMahon, B., Yen, S., Trichopoulos, D., Warren, K. and Nardi, G. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198103123041102">Coffee and cancer of the pancreas</a>. <em>New England Journal of Medicine</em>. 1981; <em>304</em>: 630-633.</li><li>Ioannidis, J.P. <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124">Why most published research findings are false</a>. PLoS medicine. 2005; 2(8), e124 </li><li>Lehmann, G.K., Elliot, A.J. and Calin-Jageman, R.J. <a href="https://journals-sagepub-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/doi/10.1177/1474704918802412">Meta-analysis of the effect of red on perceived attractiveness</a>. <em>Evolutionary Psychology</em>. 2018; <em>16</em>: 1474704918802412. </li><li>Pazda, A.D., Thorstenson, C.A. and Elliot, A.J. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-021-02045-3">The effect of red on attractiveness for highly attractive women</a>. <em>Curr Psychol</em>. 2023; 42: 8066–8073</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a><br> </p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(06:04) - Red Dress Effect on TV</li>
<li>(10:01) - Red Monkey Butts</li>
<li>(12:56) - 2008 Study on Romantic Red</li>
<li>(16:04) - HotOrNot.com</li>
<li>(20:10) - 2008 Study Results</li>
<li>(26:07) - Cohen’s d Standardized Effect Size</li>
<li>(31:49) - Problems with Small Sample Sizes</li>
<li>(35:09) - Winner’s Curse and Publication Bias</li>
<li>(39:37) - Reproducibility Crisis</li>
<li>(45:00) - Adversarial Collaboration </li>
<li>(49:58) - Meta-Analysis and Pre-Registration</li>
<li>(56:20) - Adversarial Discussion Sections and Updates</li>
<li>(01:03:52) - Latest Red Study</li>
<li>(01:07:23) - Wrap-Up</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wear red and drive men wild with lust – or so says scientific research on color’s role in human mating. But can a simple color swap really boost a woman’s hotness score? In this episode, we delve into the evidence behind the Red Dress Effect, from a controversial first study in college men to what the latest research says about who this trick might work for (and who it might not). Along the way we encounter red monkey butts, old-Internet websites, the Winner’s Curse in scientific research, adversarial collaborations, and why size (ahem, sample size) really does matter. </p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Reproducibility crisis in psychology</li><li>Sample size</li><li>Selection bias</li><li>Winner’s curse</li><li>Cohen’s d standardized effect size</li><li>Adversarial collaboration</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Preregistration</li><li>Publication bias</li><li>Statistical moderators</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals<br></strong><br></p><p><em>“The smaller the sample, the flashier the result, the less you should trust it.”</em></p><p><em>“Good scientists learn from their statistical mistakes and fix them.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><br><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Clarke, G. <a href="https://archive.ph/CfJ2v">How to Be Sexy: 7 Weird (But True) Rules of Attraction</a>. <em>Allure</em>. January 23, 2013.</li><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/FOVWz">Vying for a soul mate? Psych out the competition with science</a><em>. Los Angeles Times. </em>December 8, 2008. </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At4hJ1ydqCM">Vying for a Soul Mate </a>on the Today Show, December 30, 2008.</li><li>Elliot, A.J. and Niesta, D. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18954199/">Romantic red: red enhances men's attraction to women.</a> <em> Journal of personality and social psychology</em>. 2008; 95: 1150 – 1164. </li><li>Lehrer, J. <a href="https://archive.ph/2gj5T">The Truth Wears Off</a>. <em>The</em> <em>New Yorker</em>, December 5, 2010. </li><li>MacMahon, B., Yen, S., Trichopoulos, D., Warren, K. and Nardi, G. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM198103123041102">Coffee and cancer of the pancreas</a>. <em>New England Journal of Medicine</em>. 1981; <em>304</em>: 630-633.</li><li>Ioannidis, J.P. <a href="https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124">Why most published research findings are false</a>. PLoS medicine. 2005; 2(8), e124 </li><li>Lehmann, G.K., Elliot, A.J. and Calin-Jageman, R.J. <a href="https://journals-sagepub-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/doi/10.1177/1474704918802412">Meta-analysis of the effect of red on perceived attractiveness</a>. <em>Evolutionary Psychology</em>. 2018; <em>16</em>: 1474704918802412. </li><li>Pazda, A.D., Thorstenson, C.A. and Elliot, A.J. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-021-02045-3">The effect of red on attractiveness for highly attractive women</a>. <em>Curr Psychol</em>. 2023; 42: 8066–8073</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: <br></strong><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a><br> </p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(06:04) - Red Dress Effect on TV</li>
<li>(10:01) - Red Monkey Butts</li>
<li>(12:56) - 2008 Study on Romantic Red</li>
<li>(16:04) - HotOrNot.com</li>
<li>(20:10) - 2008 Study Results</li>
<li>(26:07) - Cohen’s d Standardized Effect Size</li>
<li>(31:49) - Problems with Small Sample Sizes</li>
<li>(35:09) - Winner’s Curse and Publication Bias</li>
<li>(39:37) - Reproducibility Crisis</li>
<li>(45:00) - Adversarial Collaboration </li>
<li>(49:58) - Meta-Analysis and Pre-Registration</li>
<li>(56:20) - Adversarial Discussion Sections and Updates</li>
<li>(01:03:52) - Latest Red Study</li>
<li>(01:07:23) - Wrap-Up</li>
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      <title>Vitamin D Part 2: Good for more than just your bones?</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can you really sit on your couch, pop vitamin D pills, and shave seconds off your 5k? Touted as a miracle cure-all, vitamin D is claimed to slash cancer and infection risks while boosting mood, cognition, and athletic performance. But does upping your vitamin D really make you healthier and happier? In this episode, we’ll follow the epidemiologic evidence—from clues in petri dishes through randomized trials. Along our journey, we’ll encounter chocolate-fueled Nobel Prizes, rock stars, pasty Brits, and a tangled mess of promiscuous variables.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>ecological studies</li><li>ecological fallacy</li><li>correlation is not causation</li><li>observational studies</li><li>statistical adjustment</li><li>confounding</li><li>randomized trials</li><li>factorial design</li><li>post-hoc analyses</li><li>subgroup analyses<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Variables with too many entanglements make observational studies a fool’s game.”</li><li>“If your intervention works only when you torture your data, it’s probably a false confession.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>Citations<br></strong><br></p><p>Garland CF, Garland FC.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ije/article-abstract/9/3/227/723830"> Do sunlight and vitamin D reduce the likelihood of colon cancer?</a> <em>Int J Epidemiol.</em> 1980;9:227-31.</p><p><br>Messerli FH.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMon1211064"> Chocolate consumption, cognitive function, and Nobel laureates</a>. <em>N Engl J Med.</em> 2012;367:1562-64.</p><p><br>Holick, MF. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011. </p><p>McMillan A.<a href="https://sunindex.co/vitamind-fitness/"> Can vitamin D boost your fitness routine?</a> Dec 18, 2018.</p><p>Marawan A, Kurbanova N, Qayyum R.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article/26/7/750/5925119"> Association between serum vitamin D levels and cardiorespiratory fitness in the adult population of the USA</a>. <em>Eur J Prev Cardiol</em>. 2019;26:750-55.</p><p><a href="https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/vitamin-d-levels-in-the-blood-linked-to-cardiorespiratory-fitness">Vitamin D levels in the blood linked to cardiorespiratory fitness.</a> <em>European Society of Cardiology. </em>Oct 30, 2018.</p><p>Jones AM, Kirby BS, Clark IE, et al.<a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00647.2020"> Physiological demands of running at 2-hour marathon race pace</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 2021;130:369-79.</p><p>Manson JE, Bassuk SS, Lee IM, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3253961/"> The VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL): rationale and design of a large randomized controlled trial of vitamin D and marine omega-3 fatty acid supplements for the primary prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>Contemp Clin Trials</em>. 2012;33:159-71.</p><p>Manson JE, Cook NR, Lee IM, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1809944"> Vitamin D supplements and prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2019;380:33-44.</p><p>Lee KL, McNeer JF, Starmer CF, et al. <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/01.cir.61.3.508">Clinical judgment and statistics: lessons from a simulated randomized trial in coronary artery disease</a>. <em>Circulation</em>. 1980; 61:508-15.</p><p>Wood S.<a href="https://www.tctmd.com/news/vital-no-benefits-vitamin-d-and-omega-3s-reducing-major-cv-events-cancer"> VITAL: No Benefits to Vitamin D and Omega-3s in Reducing Major CV Events, Cancer</a>. <em>TCTMD.com</em>. Nov 10, 2018.</p><p>Neale RE, Baxter C, Romero BD, et al.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00345-4/abstract"> The D-Health Trial: a randomised controlled trial of the effect of vitamin D on mortality</a>. <em>Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol</em>. 2022;10:120-28.</p><p>Okereke OI, Reynolds CF, Mischoulon D, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768978"> Effect of Long-term Vitamin D3 Supplementation vs Placebo on Risk of Depression or Clinically Relevant Depressive Symptoms and on Change in Mood Scores: A Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA.</em> 2020;324:471-80.</p><p>LeBoff MS, Murata EM, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7365686/"> VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL): Effects of Vitamin D Supplements on Risk of Falls in the US Population</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2020;105:2929-38.</p><p>Albert CM, Cook NR, Pester J, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777469"> Effect of Marine Omega-3 Fatty Acid and Vitamin D Supplementation on Incident Atrial Fibrillation: A Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA.</em> 2021;325:1061-73.</p><p>Rist PM, Buring JE, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)31124-4/abstract"> Effect of Vitamin D and/or Marine n-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Changes in Migraine Frequency and Severity</a>. <em>Am J Med</em>. 2021;134:756-62.</p><p>Christen WG, Cook NR, Manson JE, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7596682/"> Effect of Vitamin D and ω-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Risk of Age-Related Macular Degeneration: An Ancillary Study of the VITAL Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA</em> <em>Ophthalmol</em>. 2020;138:1280-89.</p><p>MacFarlane LA, Cook NR, Kim E, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7874905/"> The Effects of Vitamin D and Marine Omega-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Chronic Knee Pain in Older US Adults: Results From a Randomized Trial</a>. <em>Arthritis Rheumatol</em>. 2020 Nov;72(11):1836-1844.</p><p>Chou SH, Murata EM, Yu C, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8063236/"> Effects of Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Body Composition in the VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL)</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2021;106:1377-88.</p><p>Kang JH, Vyas CM, Okereke OI, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8636504/"> Effect of vitamin D on cognitive decline: results from two ancillary studies of the VITAL randomized trial</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em>. 2021;11:23253.</p><p>Rist PM, Buring JE, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ene.14623"> Effect of vitamin D and/or omega‐3 fatty acid supplementation on stroke outcomes: A randomized trial</a>. <em>Eur J Neurol</em>. 2021;28:809-15.</p><p>Hahn J, Cook NR, Alexander EK, et al.<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj-2021-066452.abstract"> Vitamin D and marine omega 3 fatty acid supplementation and incident autoimmune disease: VITAL randomized controlled trial</a>. <em>BMJ</em>. 2022;376:e066452</p><p>LeBoff MS, Chou SH, Murata EM, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7217747/"> Effects of Supplemental Vitamin D on Bone Health Outcomes in Women and Men in the VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL)</a>. <em>J Bone Miner Res</em>. 2020;35:883-93.</p><p>LeBoff MS, Chou SH, Ratliff KA, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2202106"> Supplemental vitamin D and incident fractures in midlife and older adults</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2022;387:299-309.</p><p>Kolata G.<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/health/vitamin-d-bone-fractures.html"> Study finds another condition that vitamin D pills do not help</a>. <em>The New York Times</em>. July 27, 2022</p><p>Jolliffe DA, Holt H, Greenig M, et al.<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071230.long"> Effect of a test-and-treat approach to vitamin D supplementa...</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can you really sit on your couch, pop vitamin D pills, and shave seconds off your 5k? Touted as a miracle cure-all, vitamin D is claimed to slash cancer and infection risks while boosting mood, cognition, and athletic performance. But does upping your vitamin D really make you healthier and happier? In this episode, we’ll follow the epidemiologic evidence—from clues in petri dishes through randomized trials. Along our journey, we’ll encounter chocolate-fueled Nobel Prizes, rock stars, pasty Brits, and a tangled mess of promiscuous variables.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>ecological studies</li><li>ecological fallacy</li><li>correlation is not causation</li><li>observational studies</li><li>statistical adjustment</li><li>confounding</li><li>randomized trials</li><li>factorial design</li><li>post-hoc analyses</li><li>subgroup analyses<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Variables with too many entanglements make observational studies a fool’s game.”</li><li>“If your intervention works only when you torture your data, it’s probably a false confession.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>Citations<br></strong><br></p><p>Garland CF, Garland FC.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ije/article-abstract/9/3/227/723830"> Do sunlight and vitamin D reduce the likelihood of colon cancer?</a> <em>Int J Epidemiol.</em> 1980;9:227-31.</p><p><br>Messerli FH.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMon1211064"> Chocolate consumption, cognitive function, and Nobel laureates</a>. <em>N Engl J Med.</em> 2012;367:1562-64.</p><p><br>Holick, MF. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011. </p><p>McMillan A.<a href="https://sunindex.co/vitamind-fitness/"> Can vitamin D boost your fitness routine?</a> Dec 18, 2018.</p><p>Marawan A, Kurbanova N, Qayyum R.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article/26/7/750/5925119"> Association between serum vitamin D levels and cardiorespiratory fitness in the adult population of the USA</a>. <em>Eur J Prev Cardiol</em>. 2019;26:750-55.</p><p><a href="https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/vitamin-d-levels-in-the-blood-linked-to-cardiorespiratory-fitness">Vitamin D levels in the blood linked to cardiorespiratory fitness.</a> <em>European Society of Cardiology. </em>Oct 30, 2018.</p><p>Jones AM, Kirby BS, Clark IE, et al.<a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00647.2020"> Physiological demands of running at 2-hour marathon race pace</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 2021;130:369-79.</p><p>Manson JE, Bassuk SS, Lee IM, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3253961/"> The VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL): rationale and design of a large randomized controlled trial of vitamin D and marine omega-3 fatty acid supplements for the primary prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>Contemp Clin Trials</em>. 2012;33:159-71.</p><p>Manson JE, Cook NR, Lee IM, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1809944"> Vitamin D supplements and prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2019;380:33-44.</p><p>Lee KL, McNeer JF, Starmer CF, et al. <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/01.cir.61.3.508">Clinical judgment and statistics: lessons from a simulated randomized trial in coronary artery disease</a>. <em>Circulation</em>. 1980; 61:508-15.</p><p>Wood S.<a href="https://www.tctmd.com/news/vital-no-benefits-vitamin-d-and-omega-3s-reducing-major-cv-events-cancer"> VITAL: No Benefits to Vitamin D and Omega-3s in Reducing Major CV Events, Cancer</a>. <em>TCTMD.com</em>. Nov 10, 2018.</p><p>Neale RE, Baxter C, Romero BD, et al.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00345-4/abstract"> The D-Health Trial: a randomised controlled trial of the effect of vitamin D on mortality</a>. <em>Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol</em>. 2022;10:120-28.</p><p>Okereke OI, Reynolds CF, Mischoulon D, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768978"> Effect of Long-term Vitamin D3 Supplementation vs Placebo on Risk of Depression or Clinically Relevant Depressive Symptoms and on Change in Mood Scores: A Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA.</em> 2020;324:471-80.</p><p>LeBoff MS, Murata EM, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7365686/"> VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL): Effects of Vitamin D Supplements on Risk of Falls in the US Population</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2020;105:2929-38.</p><p>Albert CM, Cook NR, Pester J, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777469"> Effect of Marine Omega-3 Fatty Acid and Vitamin D Supplementation on Incident Atrial Fibrillation: A Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA.</em> 2021;325:1061-73.</p><p>Rist PM, Buring JE, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)31124-4/abstract"> Effect of Vitamin D and/or Marine n-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Changes in Migraine Frequency and Severity</a>. <em>Am J Med</em>. 2021;134:756-62.</p><p>Christen WG, Cook NR, Manson JE, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7596682/"> Effect of Vitamin D and ω-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Risk of Age-Related Macular Degeneration: An Ancillary Study of the VITAL Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA</em> <em>Ophthalmol</em>. 2020;138:1280-89.</p><p>MacFarlane LA, Cook NR, Kim E, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7874905/"> The Effects of Vitamin D and Marine Omega-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Chronic Knee Pain in Older US Adults: Results From a Randomized Trial</a>. <em>Arthritis Rheumatol</em>. 2020 Nov;72(11):1836-1844.</p><p>Chou SH, Murata EM, Yu C, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8063236/"> Effects of Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Body Composition in the VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL)</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2021;106:1377-88.</p><p>Kang JH, Vyas CM, Okereke OI, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8636504/"> Effect of vitamin D on cognitive decline: results from two ancillary studies of the VITAL randomized trial</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em>. 2021;11:23253.</p><p>Rist PM, Buring JE, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ene.14623"> Effect of vitamin D and/or omega‐3 fatty acid supplementation on stroke outcomes: A randomized trial</a>. <em>Eur J Neurol</em>. 2021;28:809-15.</p><p>Hahn J, Cook NR, Alexander EK, et al.<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj-2021-066452.abstract"> Vitamin D and marine omega 3 fatty acid supplementation and incident autoimmune disease: VITAL randomized controlled trial</a>. <em>BMJ</em>. 2022;376:e066452</p><p>LeBoff MS, Chou SH, Murata EM, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7217747/"> Effects of Supplemental Vitamin D on Bone Health Outcomes in Women and Men in the VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL)</a>. <em>J Bone Miner Res</em>. 2020;35:883-93.</p><p>LeBoff MS, Chou SH, Ratliff KA, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2202106"> Supplemental vitamin D and incident fractures in midlife and older adults</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2022;387:299-309.</p><p>Kolata G.<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/health/vitamin-d-bone-fractures.html"> Study finds another condition that vitamin D pills do not help</a>. <em>The New York Times</em>. July 27, 2022</p><p>Jolliffe DA, Holt H, Greenig M, et al.<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071230.long"> Effect of a test-and-treat approach to vitamin D supplementa...</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can you really sit on your couch, pop vitamin D pills, and shave seconds off your 5k? Touted as a miracle cure-all, vitamin D is claimed to slash cancer and infection risks while boosting mood, cognition, and athletic performance. But does upping your vitamin D really make you healthier and happier? In this episode, we’ll follow the epidemiologic evidence—from clues in petri dishes through randomized trials. Along our journey, we’ll encounter chocolate-fueled Nobel Prizes, rock stars, pasty Brits, and a tangled mess of promiscuous variables.</p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>ecological studies</li><li>ecological fallacy</li><li>correlation is not causation</li><li>observational studies</li><li>statistical adjustment</li><li>confounding</li><li>randomized trials</li><li>factorial design</li><li>post-hoc analyses</li><li>subgroup analyses<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Variables with too many entanglements make observational studies a fool’s game.”</li><li>“If your intervention works only when you torture your data, it’s probably a false confession.”</li></ul><p><br><strong>Citations<br></strong><br></p><p>Garland CF, Garland FC.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/ije/article-abstract/9/3/227/723830"> Do sunlight and vitamin D reduce the likelihood of colon cancer?</a> <em>Int J Epidemiol.</em> 1980;9:227-31.</p><p><br>Messerli FH.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMon1211064"> Chocolate consumption, cognitive function, and Nobel laureates</a>. <em>N Engl J Med.</em> 2012;367:1562-64.</p><p><br>Holick, MF. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011. </p><p>McMillan A.<a href="https://sunindex.co/vitamind-fitness/"> Can vitamin D boost your fitness routine?</a> Dec 18, 2018.</p><p>Marawan A, Kurbanova N, Qayyum R.<a href="https://academic.oup.com/eurjpc/article/26/7/750/5925119"> Association between serum vitamin D levels and cardiorespiratory fitness in the adult population of the USA</a>. <em>Eur J Prev Cardiol</em>. 2019;26:750-55.</p><p><a href="https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/vitamin-d-levels-in-the-blood-linked-to-cardiorespiratory-fitness">Vitamin D levels in the blood linked to cardiorespiratory fitness.</a> <em>European Society of Cardiology. </em>Oct 30, 2018.</p><p>Jones AM, Kirby BS, Clark IE, et al.<a href="https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00647.2020"> Physiological demands of running at 2-hour marathon race pace</a>. <em>J Appl Physiol</em>. 2021;130:369-79.</p><p>Manson JE, Bassuk SS, Lee IM, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3253961/"> The VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL): rationale and design of a large randomized controlled trial of vitamin D and marine omega-3 fatty acid supplements for the primary prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>Contemp Clin Trials</em>. 2012;33:159-71.</p><p>Manson JE, Cook NR, Lee IM, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1809944"> Vitamin D supplements and prevention of cancer and cardiovascular disease</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2019;380:33-44.</p><p>Lee KL, McNeer JF, Starmer CF, et al. <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/01.cir.61.3.508">Clinical judgment and statistics: lessons from a simulated randomized trial in coronary artery disease</a>. <em>Circulation</em>. 1980; 61:508-15.</p><p>Wood S.<a href="https://www.tctmd.com/news/vital-no-benefits-vitamin-d-and-omega-3s-reducing-major-cv-events-cancer"> VITAL: No Benefits to Vitamin D and Omega-3s in Reducing Major CV Events, Cancer</a>. <em>TCTMD.com</em>. Nov 10, 2018.</p><p>Neale RE, Baxter C, Romero BD, et al.<a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(21)00345-4/abstract"> The D-Health Trial: a randomised controlled trial of the effect of vitamin D on mortality</a>. <em>Lancet Diabetes Endocrinol</em>. 2022;10:120-28.</p><p>Okereke OI, Reynolds CF, Mischoulon D, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768978"> Effect of Long-term Vitamin D3 Supplementation vs Placebo on Risk of Depression or Clinically Relevant Depressive Symptoms and on Change in Mood Scores: A Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA.</em> 2020;324:471-80.</p><p>LeBoff MS, Murata EM, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7365686/"> VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL): Effects of Vitamin D Supplements on Risk of Falls in the US Population</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2020;105:2929-38.</p><p>Albert CM, Cook NR, Pester J, et al.<a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777469"> Effect of Marine Omega-3 Fatty Acid and Vitamin D Supplementation on Incident Atrial Fibrillation: A Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA.</em> 2021;325:1061-73.</p><p>Rist PM, Buring JE, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)31124-4/abstract"> Effect of Vitamin D and/or Marine n-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Changes in Migraine Frequency and Severity</a>. <em>Am J Med</em>. 2021;134:756-62.</p><p>Christen WG, Cook NR, Manson JE, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7596682/"> Effect of Vitamin D and ω-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Risk of Age-Related Macular Degeneration: An Ancillary Study of the VITAL Randomized Clinical Trial</a>. <em>JAMA</em> <em>Ophthalmol</em>. 2020;138:1280-89.</p><p>MacFarlane LA, Cook NR, Kim E, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7874905/"> The Effects of Vitamin D and Marine Omega-3 Fatty Acid Supplementation on Chronic Knee Pain in Older US Adults: Results From a Randomized Trial</a>. <em>Arthritis Rheumatol</em>. 2020 Nov;72(11):1836-1844.</p><p>Chou SH, Murata EM, Yu C, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8063236/"> Effects of Vitamin D3 Supplementation on Body Composition in the VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL)</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2021;106:1377-88.</p><p>Kang JH, Vyas CM, Okereke OI, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8636504/"> Effect of vitamin D on cognitive decline: results from two ancillary studies of the VITAL randomized trial</a>. <em>Sci Rep</em>. 2021;11:23253.</p><p>Rist PM, Buring JE, Cook NR, et al.<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ene.14623"> Effect of vitamin D and/or omega‐3 fatty acid supplementation on stroke outcomes: A randomized trial</a>. <em>Eur J Neurol</em>. 2021;28:809-15.</p><p>Hahn J, Cook NR, Alexander EK, et al.<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj-2021-066452.abstract"> Vitamin D and marine omega 3 fatty acid supplementation and incident autoimmune disease: VITAL randomized controlled trial</a>. <em>BMJ</em>. 2022;376:e066452</p><p>LeBoff MS, Chou SH, Murata EM, et al.<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7217747/"> Effects of Supplemental Vitamin D on Bone Health Outcomes in Women and Men in the VITamin D and OmegA-3 TriaL (VITAL)</a>. <em>J Bone Miner Res</em>. 2020;35:883-93.</p><p>LeBoff MS, Chou SH, Ratliff KA, et al.<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2202106"> Supplemental vitamin D and incident fractures in midlife and older adults</a>. <em>NEJM</em>. 2022;387:299-309.</p><p>Kolata G.<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/health/vitamin-d-bone-fractures.html"> Study finds another condition that vitamin D pills do not help</a>. <em>The New York Times</em>. July 27, 2022</p><p>Jolliffe DA, Holt H, Greenig M, et al.<a href="https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj-2022-071230.long"> Effect of a test-and-treat approach to vitamin D supplementa...</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is America really facing an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency? While this claim is widely believed, the story behind it is packed with twists, turns, and some pesky statistical cockroaches. In this episode, we’ll dive into a study on Hawaiian surfers, expose how shifting goalposts can create an epidemic, tackle dueling medical guidelines, and flex our statistical sleuthing skills. By the end, you might wonder if the real deficiency lies in the data.<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>dichotomization</li><li>normal distribution </li><li>standard deviation</li><li>researcher biases</li><li>conflicts of interest</li><li>statistical sleuthing</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Arbitrary thresholds make for arbitrary diseases.”</li><li>“Statistical errors are like cockroaches: Where there’s one, there’s many.”</li></ul><p>Note that all blood vitamin D levels discussed in the podcast are 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels given in units of ng/ml. To convert from ng/ml to nmol/L, use the formula: nmol/L=2.5*ng/ml. For example, a vitamin D level of 30 ng/mL corresponds to 75 nmol/L.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations<br></strong><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-rhonda-patrick-micronutrients-for-health-and-longevity">Dr. Rhonda Patrick: Micronutrients for Health &amp; Longevity</a>. <em>Huberman Lab</em> <em>Podcast</em>. May 1, 2022</p><p>Noh CK, Lee MJ, Kim BK, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3780826/">A Case of Nutritional Osteomalacia in Young Adult Male</a>. <em>J Bone Metab</em>. 2013; 20:51-55.</p><p>Binkley N, Novotny R, Krueger D, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/6/2130/2597445">Low vitamin D status despite abundant sun exposure</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2007;92:2130-5. </p><p>Malabanan A, Veronikis IE, Holick MF. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78933-9/fulltext">Redefining Vitamin D Insufficiency</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 1998;351:805-6. </p><p>Dawson-Hughes B, Heaney RP, Holick MF, et al. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-005-1867-7">Estimates of optimal vitamin D status</a>. <em>Osteoporos Int</em>. 2005;16:713-6. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMra070553">Vitamin D deficiency</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2007;357:266-81. </p><p>Cui A, Xiao P, Ma Y, et al. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.965376/full">Prevalence, trend, and predictor analyses of vitamin D deficiency in the US population, 2001-2018</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022;9:965376. </p><p>Ross AC, Manson JE, Abrams SA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3046611/">The 2011 report on dietary reference intakes for calcium and vitamin D from the Institute of Medicine: what clinicians need to know</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:53-8. </p><p>Holick MF, Binkley NC, Bischoff-Ferrari HA, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/1911/2833671">Evaluation, Treatment, and Prevention of Vitamin D Deficiency: an Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:1911-30. </p><p>Manson JE, Brannon PM, Rosen CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608005">Vitamin D deficiency-is there really a pandemic</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2016;375:1817-20. </p><p>Conti G, Chirico V, Lacquaniti A, et al. <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2013-0220/html">Vitamin D intoxication in two brothers: be careful with dietary supplements</a>. <em>J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2014;27:763-7.</p><p>Holick, Michael, et al. <em>The UV Advantage</em>. Ibooks, 2004.</p><p>Holick, Michael F. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011.</p><p>Szabo, Liz. Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It. <em>The New York Times</em>. August 18, 2018.</p><p>Lee JM, Smith JR, Philipp BL, Chen TC, Mathieu J, Holick MF. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0009922806289311">Vitamin D deficiency in a healthy group of mothers and newborn infants</a>. <em>Clin Pediatr</em>. 2007;46:42-4. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62740-7/fulltext">Vitamin D deficiency: what a pain it is</a>. <em>Mayo Clin Proc</em>. 2003;78:1457-9.</p><p>Passeri G, Pini G, Troiano L, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/11/5109/2656298">. Low Vitamin D Status, High Bone Turnover, and Bone Fractures in Centenarians</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2003;88:5109-15. </p><p>Armstrong, David. <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/michael-holick-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-child-abuse-contrarian">The Child Abuse Contrarian</a>. <em>ProPublica</em>. September 16, 2018.</p><p><br></p><p>Irwig MS, Kyinn M, Shefa MC. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/12/4333/5136071">Financial Conflicts of Interest Among Authors of Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guidelines</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2018;103:4333-38. </p><p>Demay MB, Pittas AG, Bikle DD, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1907/7685305">. Vitamin D for the Prevention of Disease: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;109:1907-47.</p><p>McCartney CR, McDonnell ME, Corrigan MD, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1948/7685309">Vitamin D Insufficiency and Epistemic Humility: An Endocrine Society Guideline Communication</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;<em> </em>109:1948–54.</p><p><strong>See our detailed notes </strong><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-vitamin-d-part-1/"><strong>here</strong></a></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong><br><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program<br></a><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:55) - Sources of Vitamin D</li>
<li>(05:43) - What is Vitamin D &amp; Why Do We Need It?</li>
<li>(07:07) - Vitamin D Deficiency &amp; Rickets</li>
<li>(10:03) - Defining Vitamin D Deficiency – Changing the Goalposts</li>
<li>...</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is America really facing an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency? While this claim is widely believed, the story behind it is packed with twists, turns, and some pesky statistical cockroaches. In this episode, we’ll dive into a study on Hawaiian surfers, expose how shifting goalposts can create an epidemic, tackle dueling medical guidelines, and flex our statistical sleuthing skills. By the end, you might wonder if the real deficiency lies in the data.<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>dichotomization</li><li>normal distribution </li><li>standard deviation</li><li>researcher biases</li><li>conflicts of interest</li><li>statistical sleuthing</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Arbitrary thresholds make for arbitrary diseases.”</li><li>“Statistical errors are like cockroaches: Where there’s one, there’s many.”</li></ul><p>Note that all blood vitamin D levels discussed in the podcast are 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels given in units of ng/ml. To convert from ng/ml to nmol/L, use the formula: nmol/L=2.5*ng/ml. For example, a vitamin D level of 30 ng/mL corresponds to 75 nmol/L.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations<br></strong><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-rhonda-patrick-micronutrients-for-health-and-longevity">Dr. Rhonda Patrick: Micronutrients for Health &amp; Longevity</a>. <em>Huberman Lab</em> <em>Podcast</em>. May 1, 2022</p><p>Noh CK, Lee MJ, Kim BK, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3780826/">A Case of Nutritional Osteomalacia in Young Adult Male</a>. <em>J Bone Metab</em>. 2013; 20:51-55.</p><p>Binkley N, Novotny R, Krueger D, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/6/2130/2597445">Low vitamin D status despite abundant sun exposure</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2007;92:2130-5. </p><p>Malabanan A, Veronikis IE, Holick MF. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78933-9/fulltext">Redefining Vitamin D Insufficiency</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 1998;351:805-6. </p><p>Dawson-Hughes B, Heaney RP, Holick MF, et al. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-005-1867-7">Estimates of optimal vitamin D status</a>. <em>Osteoporos Int</em>. 2005;16:713-6. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMra070553">Vitamin D deficiency</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2007;357:266-81. </p><p>Cui A, Xiao P, Ma Y, et al. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.965376/full">Prevalence, trend, and predictor analyses of vitamin D deficiency in the US population, 2001-2018</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022;9:965376. </p><p>Ross AC, Manson JE, Abrams SA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3046611/">The 2011 report on dietary reference intakes for calcium and vitamin D from the Institute of Medicine: what clinicians need to know</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:53-8. </p><p>Holick MF, Binkley NC, Bischoff-Ferrari HA, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/1911/2833671">Evaluation, Treatment, and Prevention of Vitamin D Deficiency: an Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:1911-30. </p><p>Manson JE, Brannon PM, Rosen CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608005">Vitamin D deficiency-is there really a pandemic</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2016;375:1817-20. </p><p>Conti G, Chirico V, Lacquaniti A, et al. <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2013-0220/html">Vitamin D intoxication in two brothers: be careful with dietary supplements</a>. <em>J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2014;27:763-7.</p><p>Holick, Michael, et al. <em>The UV Advantage</em>. Ibooks, 2004.</p><p>Holick, Michael F. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011.</p><p>Szabo, Liz. Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It. <em>The New York Times</em>. August 18, 2018.</p><p>Lee JM, Smith JR, Philipp BL, Chen TC, Mathieu J, Holick MF. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0009922806289311">Vitamin D deficiency in a healthy group of mothers and newborn infants</a>. <em>Clin Pediatr</em>. 2007;46:42-4. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62740-7/fulltext">Vitamin D deficiency: what a pain it is</a>. <em>Mayo Clin Proc</em>. 2003;78:1457-9.</p><p>Passeri G, Pini G, Troiano L, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/11/5109/2656298">. Low Vitamin D Status, High Bone Turnover, and Bone Fractures in Centenarians</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2003;88:5109-15. </p><p>Armstrong, David. <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/michael-holick-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-child-abuse-contrarian">The Child Abuse Contrarian</a>. <em>ProPublica</em>. September 16, 2018.</p><p><br></p><p>Irwig MS, Kyinn M, Shefa MC. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/12/4333/5136071">Financial Conflicts of Interest Among Authors of Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guidelines</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2018;103:4333-38. </p><p>Demay MB, Pittas AG, Bikle DD, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1907/7685305">. Vitamin D for the Prevention of Disease: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;109:1907-47.</p><p>McCartney CR, McDonnell ME, Corrigan MD, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1948/7685309">Vitamin D Insufficiency and Epistemic Humility: An Endocrine Society Guideline Communication</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;<em> </em>109:1948–54.</p><p><strong>See our detailed notes </strong><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-vitamin-d-part-1/"><strong>here</strong></a></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong><br><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program<br></a><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:55) - Sources of Vitamin D</li>
<li>(05:43) - What is Vitamin D &amp; Why Do We Need It?</li>
<li>(07:07) - Vitamin D Deficiency &amp; Rickets</li>
<li>(10:03) - Defining Vitamin D Deficiency – Changing the Goalposts</li>
<li>...</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is America really facing an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency? While this claim is widely believed, the story behind it is packed with twists, turns, and some pesky statistical cockroaches. In this episode, we’ll dive into a study on Hawaiian surfers, expose how shifting goalposts can create an epidemic, tackle dueling medical guidelines, and flex our statistical sleuthing skills. By the end, you might wonder if the real deficiency lies in the data.<br></p><p><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>dichotomization</li><li>normal distribution </li><li>standard deviation</li><li>researcher biases</li><li>conflicts of interest</li><li>statistical sleuthing</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Methodologic morals</strong></p><ul><li>“Arbitrary thresholds make for arbitrary diseases.”</li><li>“Statistical errors are like cockroaches: Where there’s one, there’s many.”</li></ul><p>Note that all blood vitamin D levels discussed in the podcast are 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels given in units of ng/ml. To convert from ng/ml to nmol/L, use the formula: nmol/L=2.5*ng/ml. For example, a vitamin D level of 30 ng/mL corresponds to 75 nmol/L.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Citations<br></strong><a href="https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/dr-rhonda-patrick-micronutrients-for-health-and-longevity">Dr. Rhonda Patrick: Micronutrients for Health &amp; Longevity</a>. <em>Huberman Lab</em> <em>Podcast</em>. May 1, 2022</p><p>Noh CK, Lee MJ, Kim BK, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3780826/">A Case of Nutritional Osteomalacia in Young Adult Male</a>. <em>J Bone Metab</em>. 2013; 20:51-55.</p><p>Binkley N, Novotny R, Krueger D, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/92/6/2130/2597445">Low vitamin D status despite abundant sun exposure</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2007;92:2130-5. </p><p>Malabanan A, Veronikis IE, Holick MF. <a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(05)78933-9/fulltext">Redefining Vitamin D Insufficiency</a>. <em>Lancet</em>. 1998;351:805-6. </p><p>Dawson-Hughes B, Heaney RP, Holick MF, et al. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-005-1867-7">Estimates of optimal vitamin D status</a>. <em>Osteoporos Int</em>. 2005;16:713-6. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMra070553">Vitamin D deficiency</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2007;357:266-81. </p><p>Cui A, Xiao P, Ma Y, et al. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2022.965376/full">Prevalence, trend, and predictor analyses of vitamin D deficiency in the US population, 2001-2018</a>. <em>Front Nutr</em>. 2022;9:965376. </p><p>Ross AC, Manson JE, Abrams SA, et al. <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3046611/">The 2011 report on dietary reference intakes for calcium and vitamin D from the Institute of Medicine: what clinicians need to know</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:53-8. </p><p>Holick MF, Binkley NC, Bischoff-Ferrari HA, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/96/7/1911/2833671">Evaluation, Treatment, and Prevention of Vitamin D Deficiency: an Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2011;96:1911-30. </p><p>Manson JE, Brannon PM, Rosen CJ, et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1608005">Vitamin D deficiency-is there really a pandemic</a>. <em>N Engl J Med</em>. 2016;375:1817-20. </p><p>Conti G, Chirico V, Lacquaniti A, et al. <a href="https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2013-0220/html">Vitamin D intoxication in two brothers: be careful with dietary supplements</a>. <em>J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2014;27:763-7.</p><p>Holick, Michael, et al. <em>The UV Advantage</em>. Ibooks, 2004.</p><p>Holick, Michael F. <em>The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems</em>. Penguin Publishing Group, 2011.</p><p>Szabo, Liz. Vitamin D, the Sunshine Supplement, Has Shadowy Money Behind It. <em>The New York Times</em>. August 18, 2018.</p><p>Lee JM, Smith JR, Philipp BL, Chen TC, Mathieu J, Holick MF. <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0009922806289311">Vitamin D deficiency in a healthy group of mothers and newborn infants</a>. <em>Clin Pediatr</em>. 2007;46:42-4. </p><p>Holick MF. <a href="https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)62740-7/fulltext">Vitamin D deficiency: what a pain it is</a>. <em>Mayo Clin Proc</em>. 2003;78:1457-9.</p><p>Passeri G, Pini G, Troiano L, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/88/11/5109/2656298">. Low Vitamin D Status, High Bone Turnover, and Bone Fractures in Centenarians</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2003;88:5109-15. </p><p>Armstrong, David. <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/michael-holick-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-child-abuse-contrarian">The Child Abuse Contrarian</a>. <em>ProPublica</em>. September 16, 2018.</p><p><br></p><p>Irwig MS, Kyinn M, Shefa MC. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/103/12/4333/5136071">Financial Conflicts of Interest Among Authors of Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guidelines</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2018;103:4333-38. </p><p>Demay MB, Pittas AG, Bikle DD, et al<a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1907/7685305">. Vitamin D for the Prevention of Disease: An Endocrine Society Clinical Practice Guideline</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;109:1907-47.</p><p>McCartney CR, McDonnell ME, Corrigan MD, et al. <a href="https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/109/8/1948/7685309">Vitamin D Insufficiency and Epistemic Humility: An Endocrine Society Guideline Communication</a>. <em>J Clin Endocrinol Metab</em>. 2024;<em> </em>109:1948–54.</p><p><strong>See our detailed notes </strong><a href="https://www.normalcurves.com/p/detailed-notes-for-vitamin-d-part-1/"><strong>here</strong></a></p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses</strong><br><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences<br></a><br></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program<br></a><br></p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong></p><p>Kristin - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani"> Twitter/X</a></p><p>Regina -<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/"> LinkedIn</a> &amp;<a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/"> ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:55) - Sources of Vitamin D</li>
<li>(05:43) - What is Vitamin D &amp; Why Do We Need It?</li>
<li>(07:07) - Vitamin D Deficiency &amp; Rickets</li>
<li>(10:03) - Defining Vitamin D Deficiency – Changing the Goalposts</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sweaty t-shirt dating parties, sex pheromone dating sites, choosing your dating partner by sniffing them up — wacko fringe fads or evidence-based mating strategies? And what does your armpit stain have to do with your kids’ immune systems, or hormonal contraceptive pills, or divorce rates? </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of Normal Curves, Kristin and Regina reach back into the 1990s and revisit the scientific paper that started it all: The Sweaty T-Shirt Study. They bring a sharp eye and open mind, critically examining the study and following the line of research to today. Along the way, they encounter interesting statistical topics—including correlated observations, within-person study design, and bar-chart blasphemy—with a short, surprising detour into Neanderthal sex. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Within-person study design</li><li>Bar charts </li><li>Data and methodological transparency</li><li>Cherry-picking</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Post-hoc analyses</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><p><em>“Repeat after me: Bar charts are not for numerical data.”</em></p><p><em>“Those who ignore dependencies in their data are destined for flawed conclusions.”<br></em><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/l08DM">Ah, Love at first whiff</a>. <em>Los Angeles Times</em>. May 19, 2008.</li><li>Papamarko, S. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Pheromone parties attempt to match singles by scent</a>. <em>Yahoo!life</em>. April 12, 2012.</li><li>Sainani, K. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Stone Age Gene Swap</a>. <em>Stanford Magazine</em>. November/December 2011.</li><li>Aldhous, P. <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619763-100-darling-you-smell-wonderfully-different/">Darling, You Smell Wonderfully Different</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>. 6 May 1995.</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T, Bettens F, Paepke AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7630893/">MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci</em>. 1995; 260(1359):245-249. doi:10.1098/rspb.1995.0087</li><li>Hedrick P, Loeschcke V. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/0169534796802370">MHC and mate selection in humans?</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol. </em>1996;11(1):24. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)80237-0</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0169534796810615">Reply from C. Wedekind and T. Seebeck</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol.</em> 1996;11(1):24-25. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)81061-5</li><li>Wedekind C, Füri S. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9364787/">Body odour preferences in men and women: do they aim for specific MHC combinations or simply heterozygosity?</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci. </em>1997;264(1387):1471-1479. doi:10.1098/rspb.1997.0204</li><li>Havlíček J, Winternitz J, Roberts SC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32306884/">Major histocompatibility complex-associated odour preferences and human mate choice: near and far horizons</a>.<em> Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci</em>. 2020;375(1800):20190260. doi:10.1098/rstb.2019.0260</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br><strong>Find us on:</strong><br>Kristin -  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani">Twitter/X</a><br>Regina - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:27) - Pheromone Dating Parties</li>
<li>(06:57) - Pheromone Dating Sites and Genetic Matching</li>
<li>(10:47) - The Science of HLA Genes and Mate Selection</li>
<li>(18:08) - Breaking Down the Original Sweaty T-Shirt Study</li>
<li>(24:05) - Study Design Flaws and Data Transparency Issues</li>
<li>(28:28) - Statistical Flaws: Correlated Observations Explained</li>
<li>(36:19) - Analyzing the Study's Questionable Results</li>
<li>(39:15) - The Pill's Influence on Scent Preferences</li>
<li>(42:23) - Overstated Conclusions and Wandering Discussions</li>
<li>(47:50) - Media Reactions and the Study’s Public Impact</li>
<li>(54:03) - Other Studies and their results</li>
<li>(56:42) - Conclusion</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sweaty t-shirt dating parties, sex pheromone dating sites, choosing your dating partner by sniffing them up — wacko fringe fads or evidence-based mating strategies? And what does your armpit stain have to do with your kids’ immune systems, or hormonal contraceptive pills, or divorce rates? </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of Normal Curves, Kristin and Regina reach back into the 1990s and revisit the scientific paper that started it all: The Sweaty T-Shirt Study. They bring a sharp eye and open mind, critically examining the study and following the line of research to today. Along the way, they encounter interesting statistical topics—including correlated observations, within-person study design, and bar-chart blasphemy—with a short, surprising detour into Neanderthal sex. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Within-person study design</li><li>Bar charts </li><li>Data and methodological transparency</li><li>Cherry-picking</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Post-hoc analyses</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><p><em>“Repeat after me: Bar charts are not for numerical data.”</em></p><p><em>“Those who ignore dependencies in their data are destined for flawed conclusions.”<br></em><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/l08DM">Ah, Love at first whiff</a>. <em>Los Angeles Times</em>. May 19, 2008.</li><li>Papamarko, S. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Pheromone parties attempt to match singles by scent</a>. <em>Yahoo!life</em>. April 12, 2012.</li><li>Sainani, K. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Stone Age Gene Swap</a>. <em>Stanford Magazine</em>. November/December 2011.</li><li>Aldhous, P. <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619763-100-darling-you-smell-wonderfully-different/">Darling, You Smell Wonderfully Different</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>. 6 May 1995.</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T, Bettens F, Paepke AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7630893/">MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci</em>. 1995; 260(1359):245-249. doi:10.1098/rspb.1995.0087</li><li>Hedrick P, Loeschcke V. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/0169534796802370">MHC and mate selection in humans?</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol. </em>1996;11(1):24. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)80237-0</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0169534796810615">Reply from C. Wedekind and T. Seebeck</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol.</em> 1996;11(1):24-25. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)81061-5</li><li>Wedekind C, Füri S. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9364787/">Body odour preferences in men and women: do they aim for specific MHC combinations or simply heterozygosity?</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci. </em>1997;264(1387):1471-1479. doi:10.1098/rspb.1997.0204</li><li>Havlíček J, Winternitz J, Roberts SC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32306884/">Major histocompatibility complex-associated odour preferences and human mate choice: near and far horizons</a>.<em> Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci</em>. 2020;375(1800):20190260. doi:10.1098/rstb.2019.0260</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br><strong>Find us on:</strong><br>Kristin -  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani">Twitter/X</a><br>Regina - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:27) - Pheromone Dating Parties</li>
<li>(06:57) - Pheromone Dating Sites and Genetic Matching</li>
<li>(10:47) - The Science of HLA Genes and Mate Selection</li>
<li>(18:08) - Breaking Down the Original Sweaty T-Shirt Study</li>
<li>(24:05) - Study Design Flaws and Data Transparency Issues</li>
<li>(28:28) - Statistical Flaws: Correlated Observations Explained</li>
<li>(36:19) - Analyzing the Study's Questionable Results</li>
<li>(39:15) - The Pill's Influence on Scent Preferences</li>
<li>(42:23) - Overstated Conclusions and Wandering Discussions</li>
<li>(47:50) - Media Reactions and the Study’s Public Impact</li>
<li>(54:03) - Other Studies and their results</li>
<li>(56:42) - Conclusion</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sweaty t-shirt dating parties, sex pheromone dating sites, choosing your dating partner by sniffing them up — wacko fringe fads or evidence-based mating strategies? And what does your armpit stain have to do with your kids’ immune systems, or hormonal contraceptive pills, or divorce rates? </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of Normal Curves, Kristin and Regina reach back into the 1990s and revisit the scientific paper that started it all: The Sweaty T-Shirt Study. They bring a sharp eye and open mind, critically examining the study and following the line of research to today. Along the way, they encounter interesting statistical topics—including correlated observations, within-person study design, and bar-chart blasphemy—with a short, surprising detour into Neanderthal sex. </p><p><br><strong>Statistical topics</strong></p><ul><li>Correlated observations</li><li>Within-person study design</li><li>Bar charts </li><li>Data and methodological transparency</li><li>Cherry-picking</li><li>Meta-analysis</li><li>Multiple testing</li><li>Post-hoc analyses</li></ul><p><strong>Methodological morals</strong></p><p><em>“Repeat after me: Bar charts are not for numerical data.”</em></p><p><em>“Those who ignore dependencies in their data are destined for flawed conclusions.”<br></em><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><ul><li>Nuzzo, R. <a href="https://archive.ph/l08DM">Ah, Love at first whiff</a>. <em>Los Angeles Times</em>. May 19, 2008.</li><li>Papamarko, S. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Pheromone parties attempt to match singles by scent</a>. <em>Yahoo!life</em>. April 12, 2012.</li><li>Sainani, K. <a href="https://ca.style.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/pheromone-parties-attempt-match-singles-scent-171304472.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAN08llNL5HATQ566EM826PBDmf2FJ3UdGxQ2i8HVMqlyZtfGMhSN_Cl77OQ9PfrkYFGMx9_g_XxkNfgGkkVnaAK0QFSq-YamxvqxCV0wi8fI_vOr0mbMot2qpPSu3Pvk2-K3pwEDSpIkv7iJyaV7HTdQmzWXhN3kutnWBdhVagXN">Stone Age Gene Swap</a>. <em>Stanford Magazine</em>. November/December 2011.</li><li>Aldhous, P. <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14619763-100-darling-you-smell-wonderfully-different/">Darling, You Smell Wonderfully Different</a>. <em>New Scientist</em>. 6 May 1995.</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T, Bettens F, Paepke AJ. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7630893/">MHC-dependent mate preferences in humans</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci</em>. 1995; 260(1359):245-249. doi:10.1098/rspb.1995.0087</li><li>Hedrick P, Loeschcke V. <a href="https://www-sciencedirect-com.stanford.idm.oclc.org/science/article/pii/0169534796802370">MHC and mate selection in humans?</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol. </em>1996;11(1):24. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)80237-0</li><li>Wedekind C, Seebeck T. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0169534796810615">Reply from C. Wedekind and T. Seebeck</a>. <em>Trends Ecol Evol.</em> 1996;11(1):24-25. doi:10.1016/0169-5347(96)81061-5</li><li>Wedekind C, Füri S. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9364787/">Body odour preferences in men and women: do they aim for specific MHC combinations or simply heterozygosity?</a>. <em>Proc Biol Sci. </em>1997;264(1387):1471-1479. doi:10.1098/rspb.1997.0204</li><li>Havlíček J, Winternitz J, Roberts SC. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32306884/">Major histocompatibility complex-associated odour preferences and human mate choice: near and far horizons</a>.<em> Philos Trans R Soc Lond B Biol Sci</em>. 2020;375(1800):20190260. doi:10.1098/rstb.2019.0260</li></ul><p><br><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Programs that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><br><strong>Find us on:</strong><br>Kristin -  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani">Twitter/X</a><br>Regina - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction</li>
<li>(02:27) - Pheromone Dating Parties</li>
<li>(06:57) - Pheromone Dating Sites and Genetic Matching</li>
<li>(10:47) - The Science of HLA Genes and Mate Selection</li>
<li>(18:08) - Breaking Down the Original Sweaty T-Shirt Study</li>
<li>(24:05) - Study Design Flaws and Data Transparency Issues</li>
<li>(28:28) - Statistical Flaws: Correlated Observations Explained</li>
<li>(36:19) - Analyzing the Study's Questionable Results</li>
<li>(39:15) - The Pill's Influence on Scent Preferences</li>
<li>(42:23) - Overstated Conclusions and Wandering Discussions</li>
<li>(47:50) - Media Reactions and the Study’s Public Impact</li>
<li>(54:03) - Other Studies and their results</li>
<li>(56:42) - Conclusion</li>
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      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>Normal Curves: Who are we and what is this podcast about? </itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to a lively conversation about science that's like a journal club, but with less jargon, more fun, and a touch of PG-13 flair. In this introduction, Professors Regina Nuzzo and Kristin Sainani share how they met in graduate school, what they’ve been doing since then, how they’ll choose edgy topics and journal articles to dissect, and a bit about what makes them tick. Join them for their fresh, engaging take on scientific studies, data analysis, and statistical sleuthing. </p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Program that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong><br>Kristin -  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani">Twitter/X</a><br>Regina - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction to Normal Curves</li>
<li>(03:49) - How We Met and Our Lasting Friendship</li>
<li>(05:24) - Career Paths</li>
<li>(08:07) - The Art of Evaluating Scientific Studies</li>
<li>(09:06) - Personal Health Journeys and Biases</li>
<li>(10:48) - Shameless Course Plugs &amp; Teaching</li>
<li>(12:37) - Podcast Origins &amp; Conclusion</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to a lively conversation about science that's like a journal club, but with less jargon, more fun, and a touch of PG-13 flair. In this introduction, Professors Regina Nuzzo and Kristin Sainani share how they met in graduate school, what they’ve been doing since then, how they’ll choose edgy topics and journal articles to dissect, and a bit about what makes them tick. Join them for their fresh, engaging take on scientific studies, data analysis, and statistical sleuthing. </p><p><strong>Kristin and Regina’s online courses: </strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0033-demystifying-data-modern-approach-statistical-understanding">Demystifying Data: A Modern Approach to Statistical Understanding</a>  </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/courses/som-xche0030-clinical-trials-design-strategy-and-analysis">Clinical Trials: Design, Strategy, and Analysis</a> </p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/medical-statistics-program">Medical Statistics Certificate Program</a>  </p><p><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/sciwrite">Writing in the Sciences</a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Program that we teach in:</strong></p><p><a href="https://online.stanford.edu/programs/epidemiology-and-clinical-research-graduate-certificate">Epidemiology and Clinical Research Graduate Certificate Program</a> </p><p><strong>Find us on:</strong><br>Kristin -  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-sainani-642b5914/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://x.com/KristinSainani">Twitter/X</a><br>Regina - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/reginanuzzo/">LinkedIn</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.reginanuzzo.com/">ReginaNuzzo.com</a></p><p></p><ul><li>(00:00) - Introduction to Normal Curves</li>
<li>(03:49) - How We Met and Our Lasting Friendship</li>
<li>(05:24) - Career Paths</li>
<li>(08:07) - The Art of Evaluating Scientific Studies</li>
<li>(09:06) - Personal Health Journeys and Biases</li>
<li>(10:48) - Shameless Course Plugs &amp; Teaching</li>
<li>(12:37) - Podcast Origins &amp; Conclusion</li>
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<li>(03:49) - How We Met and Our Lasting Friendship</li>
<li>(05:24) - Career Paths</li>
<li>(08:07) - The Art of Evaluating Scientific Studies</li>
<li>(09:06) - Personal Health Journeys and Biases</li>
<li>(10:48) - Shameless Course Plugs &amp; Teaching</li>
<li>(12:37) - Podcast Origins &amp; Conclusion</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Normal Curves is a podcast about sexy science &amp; serious statistics. Ever try to make sense of a scientific study and the numbers behind it? Listen in to a lively conversation between two stats-savvy friends who break it all down with humor and clarity. Professors Regina Nuzzo of Gallaudet University and Kristin Sainani of Stanford University discuss academic papers journal club-style — except with more fun, less jargon, and some irreverent, PG-13 content sprinkled in. Join Kristin and Regina as they dissect the data, challenge the claims, and arm you with tools to assess scientific studies on your own.<br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Normal Curves is a podcast about sexy science &amp; serious statistics. Ever try to make sense of a scientific study and the numbers behind it? Listen in to a lively conversation between two stats-savvy friends who break it all down with humor and clarity. Professors Regina Nuzzo of Gallaudet University and Kristin Sainani of Stanford University discuss academic papers journal club-style — except with more fun, less jargon, and some irreverent, PG-13 content sprinkled in. Join Kristin and Regina as they dissect the data, challenge the claims, and arm you with tools to assess scientific studies on your own.<br></p>]]>
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