Never the Same Transistor (https://transistor.fm) https://feeds.transistor.fm/never-the-same "Never the Same" is an interview-based podcast exploring how different work streams intersect with suicide prevention, career development, and life lessons. The title draws inspiration from Heraclitus' quote, "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man," reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth. 2024 SafeSide Prevention f40e2fc0-4ec8-5ef0-9252-3677b8d95f1e yes Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran Trailer - Never the Same Podcast en Wed, 04 Mar 2026 19:38:59 -0500 Fri, 06 Mar 2026 12:09:57 -0500 https://img.transistorcdn.com/oYV2K-Nm5xRKy_AKZyFbhXb3gN4oiQtNpUK7isc_GoM/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9lZWNj/NDcxNDhjMjI5MmMx/Y2NiZDA3MWI2YWM3/MTZjNS5wbmc.jpg Never the Same episodic Dr. Tony Pisani "Never the Same" is an interview-based podcast exploring how different work streams intersect with suicide prevention, career development, and life lessons. The title draws inspiration from Heraclitus' quote, "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man," reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth. "Never the Same" is an interview-based podcast exploring how different work streams intersect with suicide prevention, career development, and life lessons. social science, science, mental health, psychology, suicide prevention, technology SafeSide Prevention No No What Jazz, Social Work, and AI Have in Common with Dr. Jonathan Singer 14 14 What Jazz, Social Work, and AI Have in Common with Dr. Jonathan Singer full b4bbefb7-2ebd-4ece-aaac-b21dd392f8fd https://share.transistor.fm/s/8a3c4f8d In this episode of Never the Same, Dr. Tony Pisani sits down with Jonathan Singer, a social work professor at Loyola University, co-author of Suicide in Schools, and past president of the American Association of Suicidology. 


Jonathan is also the creator of The Social Work Podcast, which he started in 2007 while teaching as a doctoral student. He thought “25 people would listen,” but by the end of the semester, there had been over 3000 downloads, from 80 countries.


They explore how jazz improvisation shaped Jonathan’s approach to therapy and collaboration, why schools with fewer suicides pay attention to “weak signals,” and what postvention can look like after a student suicide death.


Guest Bio

Jonathan Singer is a social work professor at Loyola University and the co-author of Suicide in Schools. He is the past president of the American Association of Suicidology. Jonathan is also the host and creator of the Social Work Podcast.


Referenced Resources 

]]> In this episode of Never the Same, Dr. Tony Pisani sits down with Jonathan Singer, a social work professor at Loyola University, co-author of Suicide in Schools, and past president of the American Association of Suicidology. 


Jonathan is also the creator of The Social Work Podcast, which he started in 2007 while teaching as a doctoral student. He thought “25 people would listen,” but by the end of the semester, there had been over 3000 downloads, from 80 countries.


They explore how jazz improvisation shaped Jonathan’s approach to therapy and collaboration, why schools with fewer suicides pay attention to “weak signals,” and what postvention can look like after a student suicide death.


Guest Bio

Jonathan Singer is a social work professor at Loyola University and the co-author of Suicide in Schools. He is the past president of the American Association of Suicidology. Jonathan is also the host and creator of the Social Work Podcast.


Referenced Resources 

]]> Wed, 04 Mar 2026 19:38:59 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 4242 In this episode of Never the Same, Dr. Tony Pisani sits down with Jonathan Singer, a social work professor at Loyola University, co-author of Suicide in Schools, and past president of the American Association of Suicidology. 


Jonathan is also the creator of The Social Work Podcast, which he started in 2007 while teaching as a doctoral student. He thought “25 people would listen,” but by the end of the semester, there had been over 3000 downloads, from 80 countries.


They explore how jazz improvisation shaped Jonathan’s approach to therapy and collaboration, why schools with fewer suicides pay attention to “weak signals,” and what postvention can look like after a student suicide death.


Guest Bio

Jonathan Singer is a social work professor at Loyola University and the co-author of Suicide in Schools. He is the past president of the American Association of Suicidology. Jonathan is also the host and creator of the Social Work Podcast.


Referenced Resources 

]]> mental health, psychology, social work, school mental health, therapy, suicide prevention, AI, artificial intelligence, leadership, purpose, hope, Jazz, parenting, professional development, growth, podcast, interview No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Serving Those Who Serve: First Responder Chaplain Steve Wickham 13 13 Serving Those Who Serve: First Responder Chaplain Steve Wickham full 555ebd5b-b18f-4658-89d1-4e7046ff2fd5 https://share.transistor.fm/s/6e307377 In this moving conversation, Dr Tony Pisani speaks with Steve Wickham, a workplace health and safety professional, chaplain, and writer. Steve shares his remarkable journey from his early days as a tradesman in Western Australia, through personal trials of grief, loss, and recovery, to his current roles supporting first responders and families.


With honesty and warmth, Steve opens up about the people who shaped his path, the importance of kinship and purpose, and the lessons he has learned from decades of walking alongside others in crisis. His reflections highlight the power of presence, humility, and hope in the face of life’s deepest challenges.

Guest Bio: 

Steve Wickham is a chaplain, pastor, and writer based in Western Australia. He began his career as a tradesman before moving into health and safety in 1997, working for decades as a safety professional. Today, he serves as a part-time chaplain with the Department of Fire and Emergency Services and Children and Families Pastor at a Baptist church. 


Referenced Resources: 

]]> In this moving conversation, Dr Tony Pisani speaks with Steve Wickham, a workplace health and safety professional, chaplain, and writer. Steve shares his remarkable journey from his early days as a tradesman in Western Australia, through personal trials of grief, loss, and recovery, to his current roles supporting first responders and families.


With honesty and warmth, Steve opens up about the people who shaped his path, the importance of kinship and purpose, and the lessons he has learned from decades of walking alongside others in crisis. His reflections highlight the power of presence, humility, and hope in the face of life’s deepest challenges.

Guest Bio: 

Steve Wickham is a chaplain, pastor, and writer based in Western Australia. He began his career as a tradesman before moving into health and safety in 1997, working for decades as a safety professional. Today, he serves as a part-time chaplain with the Department of Fire and Emergency Services and Children and Families Pastor at a Baptist church. 


Referenced Resources: 

]]> Tue, 13 Jan 2026 06:00:00 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 3813 In this moving conversation, Dr Tony Pisani speaks with Steve Wickham, a workplace health and safety professional, chaplain, and writer. Steve shares his remarkable journey from his early days as a tradesman in Western Australia, through personal trials of grief, loss, and recovery, to his current roles supporting first responders and families.


With honesty and warmth, Steve opens up about the people who shaped his path, the importance of kinship and purpose, and the lessons he has learned from decades of walking alongside others in crisis. His reflections highlight the power of presence, humility, and hope in the face of life’s deepest challenges.

Guest Bio: 

Steve Wickham is a chaplain, pastor, and writer based in Western Australia. He began his career as a tradesman before moving into health and safety in 1997, working for decades as a safety professional. Today, he serves as a part-time chaplain with the Department of Fire and Emergency Services and Children and Families Pastor at a Baptist church. 


Referenced Resources: 

]]> mental health, social science, psychology, first responders, workplace health and safety, chaplaincy, infant loss, Western Australia, grief, recovery, families, kinship, purpose, hope, department of fire and emergency services No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran The Network Effect: Turning Protection into Connection 12 12 The Network Effect: Turning Protection into Connection full c1aefc83-8923-43be-8dc4-a3d56f50e59c https://share.transistor.fm/s/6b00ad93 In this special episode of Never the Same, we share the full keynote address from host, Professor Tony Pisani, delivered at the Suicide Prevention Australia Conference.


Professor Pisani explores how the structure of our relationships—not just how supported we feel—can protect people from suicide risk. Drawing on studies in schools, the military, and health settings, he shows how strong, shared connections make a difference, especially when people don’t or can’t speak up.


He introduces the Connect Program, a group-based training that strengthens team cohesion and reduces suicide risk without needing people to self-identify. The episode also includes real-world examples from Western Australia and beyond.


It explores not only the importance of social structure in prevention, but HOW we can build those networks. 


Key Points Covered

  • Why social structure matters in suicide prevention
  • The power of shared trusted adults in reducing suicide risk
  • How Connect builds protective networks
  • Insights from high school and military research
  • Shifting suicide reviews from blame to learning
  • Local examples from Western Australia, including first responder initiatives and postvention pilots

🔗 Resources Mentioned

]]> In this special episode of Never the Same, we share the full keynote address from host, Professor Tony Pisani, delivered at the Suicide Prevention Australia Conference.


Professor Pisani explores how the structure of our relationships—not just how supported we feel—can protect people from suicide risk. Drawing on studies in schools, the military, and health settings, he shows how strong, shared connections make a difference, especially when people don’t or can’t speak up.


He introduces the Connect Program, a group-based training that strengthens team cohesion and reduces suicide risk without needing people to self-identify. The episode also includes real-world examples from Western Australia and beyond.


It explores not only the importance of social structure in prevention, but HOW we can build those networks. 


Key Points Covered

  • Why social structure matters in suicide prevention
  • The power of shared trusted adults in reducing suicide risk
  • How Connect builds protective networks
  • Insights from high school and military research
  • Shifting suicide reviews from blame to learning
  • Local examples from Western Australia, including first responder initiatives and postvention pilots

🔗 Resources Mentioned

]]> Mon, 24 Nov 2025 14:00:00 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 2560 In this special episode of Never the Same, we share the full keynote address from host, Professor Tony Pisani, delivered at the Suicide Prevention Australia Conference.


Professor Pisani explores how the structure of our relationships—not just how supported we feel—can protect people from suicide risk. Drawing on studies in schools, the military, and health settings, he shows how strong, shared connections make a difference, especially when people don’t or can’t speak up.


He introduces the Connect Program, a group-based training that strengthens team cohesion and reduces suicide risk without needing people to self-identify. The episode also includes real-world examples from Western Australia and beyond.


It explores not only the importance of social structure in prevention, but HOW we can build those networks. 


Key Points Covered

  • Why social structure matters in suicide prevention
  • The power of shared trusted adults in reducing suicide risk
  • How Connect builds protective networks
  • Insights from high school and military research
  • Shifting suicide reviews from blame to learning
  • Local examples from Western Australia, including first responder initiatives and postvention pilots

🔗 Resources Mentioned

]]> suicide prevention, social networks, mental health, community connection, lived experience, wellbeing, mental health education, workplace wellbeing, relationships, suicide risk, collaboration, prevention strategies, National Suicide Prevention Conference No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran Leadership Reflections—Western Australia Chief Psychiatrist Nathan Gibson, Mental Health Commissioner Maureen Lewis 11 11 Leadership Reflections—Western Australia Chief Psychiatrist Nathan Gibson, Mental Health Commissioner Maureen Lewis full 291c7034-b0bf-439f-a519-c768007db7a2 https://share.transistor.fm/s/0ebc2463 In this episode of "Never the Same," Tony Pisani sits down with two of Western Australia's leading mental health voices: Maureen Lewis, Mental Health Commissioner since 2023, and Dr. Nathan Gibson, Chief Psychiatrist since 2013. Together, they represent both the vision for reform and the clinical guardrails of accountability in Western Australia’s mental health system.

The conversation explores their unique roles in the mental health landscape, from commissioning services to regulatory oversight. They share insights on strategic leadership, including frameworks for crisis decision-making and the importance of "thinking time" in complex systems. The discussion covers First Nations mental health approaches, the integration of lived experience voices, and their shift toward trauma-informed care.


Both leaders reflect on their accidental paths to leadership, the challenges of managing a mental health system across one of the world's largest geographic health services, and what gives them hope for the future. Their candid discussion offers valuable lessons for anyone interested in systemic change and leadership in challenging environments.


Guests:

Maureen Lewis was appointed Mental Health Commissioner for Western Australia in July 2023. In this role, she oversees the commissioning of all mental health and drug and alcohol services in Western Australia, a role that combines purchasing decisions with advocacy. 

Dr. Nathan Gibson has served as Western Australia's Chief Psychiatrist since 2013. He provides independent regulatory oversight under the Mental Health Act. His focus includes standards of care, quality, safety, and reducing restrictive practices across public and private psychiatric services.

Host Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


]]> In this episode of "Never the Same," Tony Pisani sits down with two of Western Australia's leading mental health voices: Maureen Lewis, Mental Health Commissioner since 2023, and Dr. Nathan Gibson, Chief Psychiatrist since 2013. Together, they represent both the vision for reform and the clinical guardrails of accountability in Western Australia’s mental health system.

The conversation explores their unique roles in the mental health landscape, from commissioning services to regulatory oversight. They share insights on strategic leadership, including frameworks for crisis decision-making and the importance of "thinking time" in complex systems. The discussion covers First Nations mental health approaches, the integration of lived experience voices, and their shift toward trauma-informed care.


Both leaders reflect on their accidental paths to leadership, the challenges of managing a mental health system across one of the world's largest geographic health services, and what gives them hope for the future. Their candid discussion offers valuable lessons for anyone interested in systemic change and leadership in challenging environments.


Guests:

Maureen Lewis was appointed Mental Health Commissioner for Western Australia in July 2023. In this role, she oversees the commissioning of all mental health and drug and alcohol services in Western Australia, a role that combines purchasing decisions with advocacy. 

Dr. Nathan Gibson has served as Western Australia's Chief Psychiatrist since 2013. He provides independent regulatory oversight under the Mental Health Act. His focus includes standards of care, quality, safety, and reducing restrictive practices across public and private psychiatric services.

Host Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


]]> Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 4884 In this episode of "Never the Same," Tony Pisani sits down with two of Western Australia's leading mental health voices: Maureen Lewis, Mental Health Commissioner since 2023, and Dr. Nathan Gibson, Chief Psychiatrist since 2013. Together, they represent both the vision for reform and the clinical guardrails of accountability in Western Australia’s mental health system.

The conversation explores their unique roles in the mental health landscape, from commissioning services to regulatory oversight. They share insights on strategic leadership, including frameworks for crisis decision-making and the importance of "thinking time" in complex systems. The discussion covers First Nations mental health approaches, the integration of lived experience voices, and their shift toward trauma-informed care.


Both leaders reflect on their accidental paths to leadership, the challenges of managing a mental health system across one of the world's largest geographic health services, and what gives them hope for the future. Their candid discussion offers valuable lessons for anyone interested in systemic change and leadership in challenging environments.


Guests:

Maureen Lewis was appointed Mental Health Commissioner for Western Australia in July 2023. In this role, she oversees the commissioning of all mental health and drug and alcohol services in Western Australia, a role that combines purchasing decisions with advocacy. 

Dr. Nathan Gibson has served as Western Australia's Chief Psychiatrist since 2013. He provides independent regulatory oversight under the Mental Health Act. His focus includes standards of care, quality, safety, and reducing restrictive practices across public and private psychiatric services.

Host Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


]]> social science, mental health, psychology, Western Australia, mental health commission, psychiatrist, leadership, change, drug and alcohol services, care, quality, safety, advocacy No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran Prof. Pat Dudgeon's Groundbreaking Life and Work on Social Emotional Wellbeing 10 10 Prof. Pat Dudgeon's Groundbreaking Life and Work on Social Emotional Wellbeing full a2db9070-ad65-4b98-b283-2abd83e76382 https://share.transistor.fm/s/e5997964 In this inspiring instalment of Never the Same, host Dr Tony Pisani welcomes Professor Pat Dudgeon, the first Aboriginal psychologist in Australia and a global voice for First Nations mental health. 


Pat describes how confronting the racism in the system sparked her mission to “decolonise” psychology and build a new framework called Social and Emotional Wellbeing, a model that places self, family, community, culture, and Country at the centre of healing.

Across the episode, Pat and Tony revisit moments such as the Ways Forward national report, discuss why Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander suicide demands distinct responses, and celebrate community-led successes, from Indigenous Rangers caring for land to universities rewriting psychology curricula. 

Key Points

  • Pat’s path to becoming the first Aboriginal psychologist
  • Origins and pillars of the SEWB paradigm
  • The Ways Forward report and Boat Shed Declaration
  • Distinct drivers of Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander suicide
  • Success stories: Indigenous Rangers, psychology curriculum reform
  • The role of climate action and caring for Country 

Resources Mentioned

Professor Pat Dudgeon is a Bardi woman from the Kimberley and Australia’s first Aboriginal psychologist. She co-chairs the Centre of Best Practice in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Suicide Prevention and advocates for culturally informed mental-health systems worldwide.


Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities. 

]]> In this inspiring instalment of Never the Same, host Dr Tony Pisani welcomes Professor Pat Dudgeon, the first Aboriginal psychologist in Australia and a global voice for First Nations mental health. 


Pat describes how confronting the racism in the system sparked her mission to “decolonise” psychology and build a new framework called Social and Emotional Wellbeing, a model that places self, family, community, culture, and Country at the centre of healing.

Across the episode, Pat and Tony revisit moments such as the Ways Forward national report, discuss why Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander suicide demands distinct responses, and celebrate community-led successes, from Indigenous Rangers caring for land to universities rewriting psychology curricula. 

Key Points

  • Pat’s path to becoming the first Aboriginal psychologist
  • Origins and pillars of the SEWB paradigm
  • The Ways Forward report and Boat Shed Declaration
  • Distinct drivers of Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander suicide
  • Success stories: Indigenous Rangers, psychology curriculum reform
  • The role of climate action and caring for Country 

Resources Mentioned

Professor Pat Dudgeon is a Bardi woman from the Kimberley and Australia’s first Aboriginal psychologist. She co-chairs the Centre of Best Practice in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Suicide Prevention and advocates for culturally informed mental-health systems worldwide.


Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities. 

]]> Mon, 11 Aug 2025 14:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 3435 In this inspiring instalment of Never the Same, host Dr Tony Pisani welcomes Professor Pat Dudgeon, the first Aboriginal psychologist in Australia and a global voice for First Nations mental health. 


Pat describes how confronting the racism in the system sparked her mission to “decolonise” psychology and build a new framework called Social and Emotional Wellbeing, a model that places self, family, community, culture, and Country at the centre of healing.

Across the episode, Pat and Tony revisit moments such as the Ways Forward national report, discuss why Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander suicide demands distinct responses, and celebrate community-led successes, from Indigenous Rangers caring for land to universities rewriting psychology curricula. 

Key Points

  • Pat’s path to becoming the first Aboriginal psychologist
  • Origins and pillars of the SEWB paradigm
  • The Ways Forward report and Boat Shed Declaration
  • Distinct drivers of Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander suicide
  • Success stories: Indigenous Rangers, psychology curriculum reform
  • The role of climate action and caring for Country 

Resources Mentioned

Professor Pat Dudgeon is a Bardi woman from the Kimberley and Australia’s first Aboriginal psychologist. She co-chairs the Centre of Best Practice in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Suicide Prevention and advocates for culturally informed mental-health systems worldwide.


Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities. 

]]> Pat Dudgeon, psychology, suicide prevention, Indigenous mental health, Country, Noongar boodja, wellbeing, Social and Emotional Wellbeing Model, SEWB Model, Western Australia, Aboriginal, Torres Strait Islander, The Ways Forward report, climate action, Kimberley No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran A Global Vision for Crisis Support: Alan Woodward's Hope for the Future 9 9 A Global Vision for Crisis Support: Alan Woodward's Hope for the Future full f7c82da1-1b54-4ed5-9fa2-85794c155811 https://share.transistor.fm/s/6ba72802 Alan Woodward has spent decades strengthening crisis services around the world — from answering calls on the Lifeline crisis line to advising government leaders and building new programs. In this episode, Alan reflects on what it takes to face hard moments, how crisis services save lives, and why kindness (to others and ourselves) matters more than we realise.

Together, we explore the lessons Alan learned growing up in a coastal city in Australia, navigating career changes, managing anxiety, and staying committed to making the world better.

Guest:
Alan Woodward is a global leader in crisis support and suicide prevention. His work spans decades of service as a researcher, advocate, and advisor to governments and organisations, with deep roots in community-based care.

Host:
Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Resources and References Mentioned: 

]]> Alan Woodward has spent decades strengthening crisis services around the world — from answering calls on the Lifeline crisis line to advising government leaders and building new programs. In this episode, Alan reflects on what it takes to face hard moments, how crisis services save lives, and why kindness (to others and ourselves) matters more than we realise.

Together, we explore the lessons Alan learned growing up in a coastal city in Australia, navigating career changes, managing anxiety, and staying committed to making the world better.

Guest:
Alan Woodward is a global leader in crisis support and suicide prevention. His work spans decades of service as a researcher, advocate, and advisor to governments and organisations, with deep roots in community-based care.

Host:
Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Resources and References Mentioned: 

]]> Mon, 14 Jul 2025 14:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 6399 Alan Woodward has spent decades strengthening crisis services around the world — from answering calls on the Lifeline crisis line to advising government leaders and building new programs. In this episode, Alan reflects on what it takes to face hard moments, how crisis services save lives, and why kindness (to others and ourselves) matters more than we realise.

Together, we explore the lessons Alan learned growing up in a coastal city in Australia, navigating career changes, managing anxiety, and staying committed to making the world better.

Guest:
Alan Woodward is a global leader in crisis support and suicide prevention. His work spans decades of service as a researcher, advocate, and advisor to governments and organisations, with deep roots in community-based care.

Host:
Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Resources and References Mentioned: 

]]> social science, mental health, psychology, crisis support, suicide prevention, wollongong, anxiety, kindness, career development No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran What about the Children? Five Values for Multiracial Families with Nicole Doyley 8 8 What about the Children? Five Values for Multiracial Families with Nicole Doyley full 367115e3-9c56-4d2f-9f4c-948f72aa0af4 https://share.transistor.fm/s/c78f0706 Nicole Doyley’s life and writing centre on one key question: What about the children?


In this episode, Nicole reflects on growing up in a biracial family, her evolving racial identity, and the parenting values she developed as a result. She discusses transracial adoption, the impact of Black History Month, how culture shapes resilience, and why awareness and humility are essential for any caregiver.

Nicole shares her family’s story, from her parents’ marriage in the 1960s (when their marriage was still illegal in some states) to her own cross-cultural marriage to a Jamaican man, and how these experiences shaped her understanding of race, belonging, and what it means to be “seen.”

Guest: Nicole Doyley is an author and podcast host whose latest book, What About the Children? Five Values for Multiracial Families draws from her personal and professional experiences. Nicole grew up in a biracial family, served as a campus pastor, and now helps parents and communities navigate race, identity, and parenting with honesty and cultural awareness.

Host: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


Resources and References: 

]]> Nicole Doyley’s life and writing centre on one key question: What about the children?


In this episode, Nicole reflects on growing up in a biracial family, her evolving racial identity, and the parenting values she developed as a result. She discusses transracial adoption, the impact of Black History Month, how culture shapes resilience, and why awareness and humility are essential for any caregiver.

Nicole shares her family’s story, from her parents’ marriage in the 1960s (when their marriage was still illegal in some states) to her own cross-cultural marriage to a Jamaican man, and how these experiences shaped her understanding of race, belonging, and what it means to be “seen.”

Guest: Nicole Doyley is an author and podcast host whose latest book, What About the Children? Five Values for Multiracial Families draws from her personal and professional experiences. Nicole grew up in a biracial family, served as a campus pastor, and now helps parents and communities navigate race, identity, and parenting with honesty and cultural awareness.

Host: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


Resources and References: 

]]> Tue, 17 Jun 2025 04:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 4674 Nicole Doyley’s life and writing centre on one key question: What about the children?


In this episode, Nicole reflects on growing up in a biracial family, her evolving racial identity, and the parenting values she developed as a result. She discusses transracial adoption, the impact of Black History Month, how culture shapes resilience, and why awareness and humility are essential for any caregiver.

Nicole shares her family’s story, from her parents’ marriage in the 1960s (when their marriage was still illegal in some states) to her own cross-cultural marriage to a Jamaican man, and how these experiences shaped her understanding of race, belonging, and what it means to be “seen.”

Guest: Nicole Doyley is an author and podcast host whose latest book, What About the Children? Five Values for Multiracial Families draws from her personal and professional experiences. Nicole grew up in a biracial family, served as a campus pastor, and now helps parents and communities navigate race, identity, and parenting with honesty and cultural awareness.

Host: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


Resources and References: 

]]> culture, race, identity, parenting, social science, psychology, multiracial, families, honesty, awareness, humility, diversity, exploration, cultural awareness, community, education No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran Luke Pisani Leading with Purpose: CEO Nieves Murray on Change, Compassion, and Community 7 7 Leading with Purpose: CEO Nieves Murray on Change, Compassion, and Community full 62eaece3-0681-4345-bf8b-2561277ee06c https://share.transistor.fm/s/1ba6bc4b In this episode, Nieves Murray, CEO of Suicide Prevention Australia, joins Dr. Tony Pisani for an insightful conversation about leadership, equity, and personal transformation. From her early career in engineering to leading national suicide prevention strategy, Nieves brings a rich mix of personal stories, professional insights, and hard-earned wisdom.

Key Themes

  • The power of bilingual and bicultural identity
  • Leadership lessons from aged care, finance, and suicide prevention
  • Changing minds: how experience reshapes perspective
  • Balancing data with lived experience in policy work
  • Grief, care, and learning from family 

Nieves Murray: Nieves Murray is the CEO of Suicide Prevention Australia and has spent over 35 years in leadership roles across aged care, finance, and human services. Recognised as one of Australia’s 100 Most Influential Women, she is a champion of systems thinking, community voice, and inclusive policy.

Dr. Tony Pisani: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Resources and References 

  • National Policy Platform by Suicide Prevention Australia
  • Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make The Leap and Others Don't by Jim Collins 
]]> In this episode, Nieves Murray, CEO of Suicide Prevention Australia, joins Dr. Tony Pisani for an insightful conversation about leadership, equity, and personal transformation. From her early career in engineering to leading national suicide prevention strategy, Nieves brings a rich mix of personal stories, professional insights, and hard-earned wisdom.

Key Themes

  • The power of bilingual and bicultural identity
  • Leadership lessons from aged care, finance, and suicide prevention
  • Changing minds: how experience reshapes perspective
  • Balancing data with lived experience in policy work
  • Grief, care, and learning from family 

Nieves Murray: Nieves Murray is the CEO of Suicide Prevention Australia and has spent over 35 years in leadership roles across aged care, finance, and human services. Recognised as one of Australia’s 100 Most Influential Women, she is a champion of systems thinking, community voice, and inclusive policy.

Dr. Tony Pisani: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Resources and References 

  • National Policy Platform by Suicide Prevention Australia
  • Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make The Leap and Others Don't by Jim Collins 
]]> Sun, 18 May 2025 16:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 6414 In this episode, Nieves Murray, CEO of Suicide Prevention Australia, joins Dr. Tony Pisani for an insightful conversation about leadership, equity, and personal transformation. From her early career in engineering to leading national suicide prevention strategy, Nieves brings a rich mix of personal stories, professional insights, and hard-earned wisdom.

Key Themes

  • The power of bilingual and bicultural identity
  • Leadership lessons from aged care, finance, and suicide prevention
  • Changing minds: how experience reshapes perspective
  • Balancing data with lived experience in policy work
  • Grief, care, and learning from family 

Nieves Murray: Nieves Murray is the CEO of Suicide Prevention Australia and has spent over 35 years in leadership roles across aged care, finance, and human services. Recognised as one of Australia’s 100 Most Influential Women, she is a champion of systems thinking, community voice, and inclusive policy.

Dr. Tony Pisani: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Resources and References 

  • National Policy Platform by Suicide Prevention Australia
  • Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make The Leap and Others Don't by Jim Collins 
]]> suicide prevention Australia, SPA, mental health, social science, Nieves Murray, leadership, career development, suicide prevention, learning, teaching No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Structured Support in Suicide Prevention with Jacinta Hawgood 6 6 Structured Support in Suicide Prevention with Jacinta Hawgood full 28e14ef5-1c48-436a-a3e7-36a853db3f48 https://share.transistor.fm/s/3cb1cb72 Welcome to the Never the Same Podcast! Today, we dive into the science of suicide prevention with Jacinta Hawgood, a clinical psychologist, senior lecturer, and researcher at Griffith University.

Host Tony Pisani is joined by Jacinta, a leader in the field with nearly 25 years of experience, to discuss how structured approaches like the STARS Protocol are reshaping conversations about suicide. Together, they explore:

  • How STARS (Systematic Tailored Assessment for Responding to Suicidality) bridges structured tools and personal stories.
  • Why protective factors and client-driven care are essential for meaningful interventions.
  • How suicide prevention is evolving, with new roles for non-clinical professionals and lived experience leaders.
  • The biggest misconceptions about suicide, including fears around asking direct questions.

Jacinta also reflects on her career, how her thinking has changed over time, and why listening deeply is at the heart of effective care.


Don't forget to like & subscribe so you never miss an episode! Together, we’re exploring the stories and strategies that can make a difference.

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Welcome to the Never the Same Podcast! Today, we dive into the science of suicide prevention with Jacinta Hawgood, a clinical psychologist, senior lecturer, and researcher at Griffith University.

Host Tony Pisani is joined by Jacinta, a leader in the field with nearly 25 years of experience, to discuss how structured approaches like the STARS Protocol are reshaping conversations about suicide. Together, they explore:

  • How STARS (Systematic Tailored Assessment for Responding to Suicidality) bridges structured tools and personal stories.
  • Why protective factors and client-driven care are essential for meaningful interventions.
  • How suicide prevention is evolving, with new roles for non-clinical professionals and lived experience leaders.
  • The biggest misconceptions about suicide, including fears around asking direct questions.

Jacinta also reflects on her career, how her thinking has changed over time, and why listening deeply is at the heart of effective care.


Don't forget to like & subscribe so you never miss an episode! Together, we’re exploring the stories and strategies that can make a difference.

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 1859 Welcome to the Never the Same Podcast! Today, we dive into the science of suicide prevention with Jacinta Hawgood, a clinical psychologist, senior lecturer, and researcher at Griffith University.

Host Tony Pisani is joined by Jacinta, a leader in the field with nearly 25 years of experience, to discuss how structured approaches like the STARS Protocol are reshaping conversations about suicide. Together, they explore:

  • How STARS (Systematic Tailored Assessment for Responding to Suicidality) bridges structured tools and personal stories.
  • Why protective factors and client-driven care are essential for meaningful interventions.
  • How suicide prevention is evolving, with new roles for non-clinical professionals and lived experience leaders.
  • The biggest misconceptions about suicide, including fears around asking direct questions.

Jacinta also reflects on her career, how her thinking has changed over time, and why listening deeply is at the heart of effective care.


Don't forget to like & subscribe so you never miss an episode! Together, we’re exploring the stories and strategies that can make a difference.

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> career, psychology, suicide prevention, mental health, Jacinta Hawgood, STARS Protocol, structured support, research, interview, life, career development, professional development, growth No Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Michael Abbott Hannah Corcoran When Young People Need Support: Conversations That Matter with Dr. Melissa Dundas 5 5 When Young People Need Support: Conversations That Matter with Dr. Melissa Dundas full 0c172a0a-a491-4ad5-9e31-d3aebb7e4678 https://share.transistor.fm/s/8a3382b1 In this episode, Dr. Tony Pisani, Kristina Mossgraber, and Dr. Melissa Dundas discuss the critical role primary care providers play in youth suicide prevention. They share personal insights, professional experiences, and practical strategies to support young people beyond just referrals to mental health services.


They cover how to build trust with youth, recognize warning signs, and create a culture of safety within healthcare settings and communities. Whether you're a clinician, educator, parent, or caregiver, this conversation offers valuable takeaways for fostering connection and providing effective support.


Note: This episode was originally released in 2023 through a collaboration with Aetna as “Practical Advice About Youth Suicide Prevention in Primary Care”. We loved this chat with Dr Dundas so much we wanted to share it again with our Never the Same Audience.  


Guests:
Kristina Mossgraber is a suicide prevention advocate with lived experience and part of SafeSide’s faculty, dedicated to improving support systems for those struggling with mental health.
Dr. Melissa Dundas is a pediatrician and adolescent medicine specialist passionate about integrating mental health support into primary care.


Host: 

Dr. Tony Pisani is a clinical psychologist and educational media lead at SafeSide Prevention.


Mentioned Resources:

If you or someone you know needs support: 

Production Credits:
Hannah Mang, Senior Video Editor and Producer
Annie Lewis, Content and Communications Manager
Luke Pisani, Music  

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> In this episode, Dr. Tony Pisani, Kristina Mossgraber, and Dr. Melissa Dundas discuss the critical role primary care providers play in youth suicide prevention. They share personal insights, professional experiences, and practical strategies to support young people beyond just referrals to mental health services.


They cover how to build trust with youth, recognize warning signs, and create a culture of safety within healthcare settings and communities. Whether you're a clinician, educator, parent, or caregiver, this conversation offers valuable takeaways for fostering connection and providing effective support.


Note: This episode was originally released in 2023 through a collaboration with Aetna as “Practical Advice About Youth Suicide Prevention in Primary Care”. We loved this chat with Dr Dundas so much we wanted to share it again with our Never the Same Audience.  


Guests:
Kristina Mossgraber is a suicide prevention advocate with lived experience and part of SafeSide’s faculty, dedicated to improving support systems for those struggling with mental health.
Dr. Melissa Dundas is a pediatrician and adolescent medicine specialist passionate about integrating mental health support into primary care.


Host: 

Dr. Tony Pisani is a clinical psychologist and educational media lead at SafeSide Prevention.


Mentioned Resources:

If you or someone you know needs support: 

Production Credits:
Hannah Mang, Senior Video Editor and Producer
Annie Lewis, Content and Communications Manager
Luke Pisani, Music  

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:00:00 -0400 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 2714 In this episode, Dr. Tony Pisani, Kristina Mossgraber, and Dr. Melissa Dundas discuss the critical role primary care providers play in youth suicide prevention. They share personal insights, professional experiences, and practical strategies to support young people beyond just referrals to mental health services.


They cover how to build trust with youth, recognize warning signs, and create a culture of safety within healthcare settings and communities. Whether you're a clinician, educator, parent, or caregiver, this conversation offers valuable takeaways for fostering connection and providing effective support.


Note: This episode was originally released in 2023 through a collaboration with Aetna as “Practical Advice About Youth Suicide Prevention in Primary Care”. We loved this chat with Dr Dundas so much we wanted to share it again with our Never the Same Audience.  


Guests:
Kristina Mossgraber is a suicide prevention advocate with lived experience and part of SafeSide’s faculty, dedicated to improving support systems for those struggling with mental health.
Dr. Melissa Dundas is a pediatrician and adolescent medicine specialist passionate about integrating mental health support into primary care.


Host: 

Dr. Tony Pisani is a clinical psychologist and educational media lead at SafeSide Prevention.


Mentioned Resources:

If you or someone you know needs support: 

Production Credits:
Hannah Mang, Senior Video Editor and Producer
Annie Lewis, Content and Communications Manager
Luke Pisani, Music  

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> family support, suicide prevention, mental health, psychology, interview, life, career development, professional development, growth, suicide concerns, primary care, pediatric medicine, adolescent medicine, mental health awareness, public health No Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran When Your Work Finds You: Dr. Arielle Sheftall on Child Suicide Prevention and Career Purpose 4 4 When Your Work Finds You: Dr. Arielle Sheftall on Child Suicide Prevention and Career Purpose full f72a63f2-b8bc-434d-8218-103ece80d231 https://share.transistor.fm/s/f8366214 Dr. Tony Pisani interviews Dr. Arielle Sheftall, a leading researcher in youth suicide prevention, about the crucial issue of suicide among children and pre-teens. Dr. Sheftall shares insights from her work on understanding and preventing suicide in young people, particularly addressing the rising rates among Black youth. This conversation covers the importance of direct communication about suicide with young people, the role of cultural understanding in prevention, and how to build protective factors for at-risk youth.

Key moments include discussions about:
Breaking stigma around youth mental health
How to talk with children about suicide
The impact of family and community support
Cultural considerations in suicide prevention
Resources for families and professionals

If you or someone you know needs support:
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (US): 988 
Lifeline (Australia) - 1800 551 800 
Lifeline (New Zealand) - Phone: 0800 543 354 or Text 4357 

Production Credits:
Hannah Mang, Senior Video Editor and Producer
Annie Lewis, Content and Communications Manager
Luke Pisani, Music 

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Dr. Tony Pisani interviews Dr. Arielle Sheftall, a leading researcher in youth suicide prevention, about the crucial issue of suicide among children and pre-teens. Dr. Sheftall shares insights from her work on understanding and preventing suicide in young people, particularly addressing the rising rates among Black youth. This conversation covers the importance of direct communication about suicide with young people, the role of cultural understanding in prevention, and how to build protective factors for at-risk youth.

Key moments include discussions about:
Breaking stigma around youth mental health
How to talk with children about suicide
The impact of family and community support
Cultural considerations in suicide prevention
Resources for families and professionals

If you or someone you know needs support:
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (US): 988 
Lifeline (Australia) - 1800 551 800 
Lifeline (New Zealand) - Phone: 0800 543 354 or Text 4357 

Production Credits:
Hannah Mang, Senior Video Editor and Producer
Annie Lewis, Content and Communications Manager
Luke Pisani, Music 

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Tue, 18 Feb 2025 04:00:00 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 4244 Dr. Tony Pisani interviews Dr. Arielle Sheftall, a leading researcher in youth suicide prevention, about the crucial issue of suicide among children and pre-teens. Dr. Sheftall shares insights from her work on understanding and preventing suicide in young people, particularly addressing the rising rates among Black youth. This conversation covers the importance of direct communication about suicide with young people, the role of cultural understanding in prevention, and how to build protective factors for at-risk youth.

Key moments include discussions about:
Breaking stigma around youth mental health
How to talk with children about suicide
The impact of family and community support
Cultural considerations in suicide prevention
Resources for families and professionals

If you or someone you know needs support:
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (US): 988 
Lifeline (Australia) - 1800 551 800 
Lifeline (New Zealand) - Phone: 0800 543 354 or Text 4357 

Production Credits:
Hannah Mang, Senior Video Editor and Producer
Annie Lewis, Content and Communications Manager
Luke Pisani, Music 

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> social science, science, family support, suicide prevention, mental health, psychology, interview, life, career development, professional development, growth, suicide concerns, pediatric medicine, adolescent medicine, Black youth, conversations, youth mental health, public health, research, mental health awareness No Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran AI Scientists and the Humans Who Love Them with Dr. Ian Cero 3 3 AI Scientists and the Humans Who Love Them with Dr. Ian Cero full 74de96ee-3345-4a81-9194-534b2385ad89 https://share.transistor.fm/s/3d5a6b85 Welcome to the Never The Same Podcast! Today we explore whether AI can fundamentally transform the way we conduct scientific research, especially in the context of suicide prevention. Tony is joined by Dr. Ian Cero, a faculty member at the University of Rochester and expert in clinical psychology, statistics, and... debating! (Yes, he was a Minnesota state debate champion).

Together, they tackle the question: can AI become a scientist in its own right? They dive into:

  • How AI is being used today to generate research ideas and conduct experiments.
  • Whether AI can truly be creative or if it just mimics patterns.
  • The implications for human researchers—especially those just beginning their careers.
  • How we can use AI without losing the essence of human creativity and scientific curiosity.

Ian shares his personal journey—from skepticism to relying on AI as an essential research partner. He explains how his own experience with AI helped him correct misunderstandings and even saved one of his projects from failure.

If you’re a researcher, someone interested in mental health, or just curious about where AI is taking us next, this episode is a must-listen.

Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon so you never miss an episode! We're here to keep exploring the frontiers of science and prevention.

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Welcome to the Never The Same Podcast! Today we explore whether AI can fundamentally transform the way we conduct scientific research, especially in the context of suicide prevention. Tony is joined by Dr. Ian Cero, a faculty member at the University of Rochester and expert in clinical psychology, statistics, and... debating! (Yes, he was a Minnesota state debate champion).

Together, they tackle the question: can AI become a scientist in its own right? They dive into:

  • How AI is being used today to generate research ideas and conduct experiments.
  • Whether AI can truly be creative or if it just mimics patterns.
  • The implications for human researchers—especially those just beginning their careers.
  • How we can use AI without losing the essence of human creativity and scientific curiosity.

Ian shares his personal journey—from skepticism to relying on AI as an essential research partner. He explains how his own experience with AI helped him correct misunderstandings and even saved one of his projects from failure.

If you’re a researcher, someone interested in mental health, or just curious about where AI is taking us next, this episode is a must-listen.

Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon so you never miss an episode! We're here to keep exploring the frontiers of science and prevention.

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Tue, 14 Jan 2025 04:00:00 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 6071 Welcome to the Never The Same Podcast! Today we explore whether AI can fundamentally transform the way we conduct scientific research, especially in the context of suicide prevention. Tony is joined by Dr. Ian Cero, a faculty member at the University of Rochester and expert in clinical psychology, statistics, and... debating! (Yes, he was a Minnesota state debate champion).

Together, they tackle the question: can AI become a scientist in its own right? They dive into:

  • How AI is being used today to generate research ideas and conduct experiments.
  • Whether AI can truly be creative or if it just mimics patterns.
  • The implications for human researchers—especially those just beginning their careers.
  • How we can use AI without losing the essence of human creativity and scientific curiosity.

Ian shares his personal journey—from skepticism to relying on AI as an essential research partner. He explains how his own experience with AI helped him correct misunderstandings and even saved one of his projects from failure.

If you’re a researcher, someone interested in mental health, or just curious about where AI is taking us next, this episode is a must-listen.

Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon so you never miss an episode! We're here to keep exploring the frontiers of science and prevention.

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> AI, artificial intelligence, robots, technology, research, scientific research, suicide prevention, mental health, psychology, interview, life, career development, professional development, growth, learning No Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Annie Lewis Tony Pisani Fish & Crown Creative Hannah Corcoran Here with You: Supporting People with Substance Use and Suicide Concerns 2 2 Here with You: Supporting People with Substance Use and Suicide Concerns full 045b4cb1-f0cf-4b95-b841-17798aeee663 https://share.transistor.fm/s/f69aa3cf This episode of Never the Same delves into addressing suicide concerns among loved ones who use substances. Featuring lived experience insights from Jack Stem and his daughter Kim, alongside Dr. Ken Connor (University of Rochester) and Morica Hutchinson (University of Connecticut), the conversation combines lived experiences and professional insights.


The episode coincides with the release of a no-cost online training resource developed by SafeSide Prevention in collaboration with the UR Medicine Recovery Center of Excellence on SUD Prevention to support those standing together with someone grappling with substance use and suicide challenges. Explore the resource here. 


Key topics include:

  • How to start difficult conversations about suicide and substance use
  • Ways to ask about suicide directly and sensitively
  • How to respond effectively when someone shares their concerns. 

In this episode, the participants share personal experiences and professional insights, creating a balanced discussion that addresses both the practical and emotional aspects of supporting someone at risk of suicide who also struggles with substance use.


Guests:

• Jack Stem: A seasoned counselor and recovery advocate with decades of experience navigating addiction and peer support.
• Kim Stem: A passionate speaker on addiction and mental health, sharing her lived experiences to foster understanding and hope.
• Dr. Kenneth Conner: Professor in Emergency Medicine and Psychiatry at the University of Rochester, specializing in suicide prevention and substance use research.
• Morica Hutchison: the Faculty in Public Health Sciences at the University of Connecticut, focusing on family and community-based approaches to substance use and mental health.

Host: 

Dr. Tony Pisani: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


Referenced Resources (Timestamped): 

  • Online Family and Friend Training Module (01:30): Developed with the University of Rochester Recovery Center of Excellence. Access here. 
  • Three Steps to Ask About Suicide (10:18): A guide for friends and family. 
  • 988 Crisis Line (01:03:00): National resource for immediate support. Learn more here.
  • Hope Kit (01:03:30): Mentioned as a resource for stabilization. Learn more here. 

Resources to contact if you need crisis help

SafeSide does not provide crisis intervention. These crisis resources are there for you:

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> This episode of Never the Same delves into addressing suicide concerns among loved ones who use substances. Featuring lived experience insights from Jack Stem and his daughter Kim, alongside Dr. Ken Connor (University of Rochester) and Morica Hutchinson (University of Connecticut), the conversation combines lived experiences and professional insights.


The episode coincides with the release of a no-cost online training resource developed by SafeSide Prevention in collaboration with the UR Medicine Recovery Center of Excellence on SUD Prevention to support those standing together with someone grappling with substance use and suicide challenges. Explore the resource here. 


Key topics include:

  • How to start difficult conversations about suicide and substance use
  • Ways to ask about suicide directly and sensitively
  • How to respond effectively when someone shares their concerns. 

In this episode, the participants share personal experiences and professional insights, creating a balanced discussion that addresses both the practical and emotional aspects of supporting someone at risk of suicide who also struggles with substance use.


Guests:

• Jack Stem: A seasoned counselor and recovery advocate with decades of experience navigating addiction and peer support.
• Kim Stem: A passionate speaker on addiction and mental health, sharing her lived experiences to foster understanding and hope.
• Dr. Kenneth Conner: Professor in Emergency Medicine and Psychiatry at the University of Rochester, specializing in suicide prevention and substance use research.
• Morica Hutchison: the Faculty in Public Health Sciences at the University of Connecticut, focusing on family and community-based approaches to substance use and mental health.

Host: 

Dr. Tony Pisani: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


Referenced Resources (Timestamped): 

  • Online Family and Friend Training Module (01:30): Developed with the University of Rochester Recovery Center of Excellence. Access here. 
  • Three Steps to Ask About Suicide (10:18): A guide for friends and family. 
  • 988 Crisis Line (01:03:00): National resource for immediate support. Learn more here.
  • Hope Kit (01:03:30): Mentioned as a resource for stabilization. Learn more here. 

Resources to contact if you need crisis help

SafeSide does not provide crisis intervention. These crisis resources are there for you:

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> Tue, 10 Dec 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 5648 This episode of Never the Same delves into addressing suicide concerns among loved ones who use substances. Featuring lived experience insights from Jack Stem and his daughter Kim, alongside Dr. Ken Connor (University of Rochester) and Morica Hutchinson (University of Connecticut), the conversation combines lived experiences and professional insights.


The episode coincides with the release of a no-cost online training resource developed by SafeSide Prevention in collaboration with the UR Medicine Recovery Center of Excellence on SUD Prevention to support those standing together with someone grappling with substance use and suicide challenges. Explore the resource here. 


Key topics include:

  • How to start difficult conversations about suicide and substance use
  • Ways to ask about suicide directly and sensitively
  • How to respond effectively when someone shares their concerns. 

In this episode, the participants share personal experiences and professional insights, creating a balanced discussion that addresses both the practical and emotional aspects of supporting someone at risk of suicide who also struggles with substance use.


Guests:

• Jack Stem: A seasoned counselor and recovery advocate with decades of experience navigating addiction and peer support.
• Kim Stem: A passionate speaker on addiction and mental health, sharing her lived experiences to foster understanding and hope.
• Dr. Kenneth Conner: Professor in Emergency Medicine and Psychiatry at the University of Rochester, specializing in suicide prevention and substance use research.
• Morica Hutchison: the Faculty in Public Health Sciences at the University of Connecticut, focusing on family and community-based approaches to substance use and mental health.

Host: 

Dr. Tony Pisani: Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.


Referenced Resources (Timestamped): 

  • Online Family and Friend Training Module (01:30): Developed with the University of Rochester Recovery Center of Excellence. Access here. 
  • Three Steps to Ask About Suicide (10:18): A guide for friends and family. 
  • 988 Crisis Line (01:03:00): National resource for immediate support. Learn more here.
  • Hope Kit (01:03:30): Mentioned as a resource for stabilization. Learn more here. 

Resources to contact if you need crisis help

SafeSide does not provide crisis intervention. These crisis resources are there for you:

(c) 2024. SafeSide Media, LLC.

]]> substance use, family support, suicide prevention, mental health, psychology, interview, life, career development, professional development, growth, suicide concerns No Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Tony Pisani Annie Lewis Fish & Crown Creative Hannah Corcoran The Psychology of Life and Suicide Prevention with Dr. David Jobes 1 1 The Psychology of Life and Suicide Prevention with Dr. David Jobes full 819d0cfc-77c2-494d-983a-c2caf0e1f78c https://share.transistor.fm/s/cdea1b3f View on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PXDtfKsFznI
The shift from traditional risk assessment to collaborative, person-centered care is reshaping suicide prevention. In this inaugural episode of Never the Same, Professor Tony Pisani sits down with Dr. David Jobes, creator of the Collaborative Assessment and Management of Suicidality (CAMS), to discuss this transformative approach.

Dr. Jobes shares insights from decades of work with patients and offers a glimpse into the life-changing potential of CAMS: "You can find a way through an incredibly dark moment and look back, saying, ‘Oh my god, I almost ended my life.’”

Learn how this groundbreaking framework puts patients at the center of their care, fosters hope, and transforms lives.

Guest: Dr. David Jobes
Dr. David A. Jobes is a renowned clinical psychologist and suicidologist with over 30 years of experience. As a professor at Catholic University, he directs the Suicide Prevention Lab and has authored six books and 100+ peer-reviewed publications. Dr. Jobes is the creator of CAMS, a framework that has revolutionized care for individuals with suicidal thoughts.

Host: Dr. Tony Pisani
Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Links:

• CAMS training for mental health professionals
• Meta-analysis Paper on CAMS
• Jobes Lab on X.com
• Dr. Jobes’ Bio at Catholic University
 • Recommended Standard Care 

]]> View on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PXDtfKsFznI
The shift from traditional risk assessment to collaborative, person-centered care is reshaping suicide prevention. In this inaugural episode of Never the Same, Professor Tony Pisani sits down with Dr. David Jobes, creator of the Collaborative Assessment and Management of Suicidality (CAMS), to discuss this transformative approach.

Dr. Jobes shares insights from decades of work with patients and offers a glimpse into the life-changing potential of CAMS: "You can find a way through an incredibly dark moment and look back, saying, ‘Oh my god, I almost ended my life.’”

Learn how this groundbreaking framework puts patients at the center of their care, fosters hope, and transforms lives.

Guest: Dr. David Jobes
Dr. David A. Jobes is a renowned clinical psychologist and suicidologist with over 30 years of experience. As a professor at Catholic University, he directs the Suicide Prevention Lab and has authored six books and 100+ peer-reviewed publications. Dr. Jobes is the creator of CAMS, a framework that has revolutionized care for individuals with suicidal thoughts.

Host: Dr. Tony Pisani
Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Links:

• CAMS training for mental health professionals
• Meta-analysis Paper on CAMS
• Jobes Lab on X.com
• Dr. Jobes’ Bio at Catholic University
 • Recommended Standard Care 

]]> Tue, 03 Dec 2024 04:00:00 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 9953 View on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PXDtfKsFznI
The shift from traditional risk assessment to collaborative, person-centered care is reshaping suicide prevention. In this inaugural episode of Never the Same, Professor Tony Pisani sits down with Dr. David Jobes, creator of the Collaborative Assessment and Management of Suicidality (CAMS), to discuss this transformative approach.

Dr. Jobes shares insights from decades of work with patients and offers a glimpse into the life-changing potential of CAMS: "You can find a way through an incredibly dark moment and look back, saying, ‘Oh my god, I almost ended my life.’”

Learn how this groundbreaking framework puts patients at the center of their care, fosters hope, and transforms lives.

Guest: Dr. David Jobes
Dr. David A. Jobes is a renowned clinical psychologist and suicidologist with over 30 years of experience. As a professor at Catholic University, he directs the Suicide Prevention Lab and has authored six books and 100+ peer-reviewed publications. Dr. Jobes is the creator of CAMS, a framework that has revolutionized care for individuals with suicidal thoughts.

Host: Dr. Tony Pisani
Dr. Tony Pisani is a professor, clinician, and founder of SafeSide Prevention, leading its mission to build safer, more connected military, health, education, and workplace communities.

Links:

• CAMS training for mental health professionals
• Meta-analysis Paper on CAMS
• Jobes Lab on X.com
• Dr. Jobes’ Bio at Catholic University
 • Recommended Standard Care 

]]> career, psychology, suicide prevention, mental health, CAMS Care, David Jobes, research, interview, life, career development, professional development, growth No Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Tony Pisani Annie Lewis Michael Abbott Hannah Corcoran Trailer - Never the Same Podcast Trailer - Never the Same Podcast trailer 41bb52d9-2515-4e10-b64d-2681d973e696 https://share.transistor.fm/s/a1a73303 Welcome to “Never the Same,” where we explore how influential people and ideas have evolved over time and where they might go in the future. Reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth.

]]> Welcome to “Never the Same,” where we explore how influential people and ideas have evolved over time and where they might go in the future. Reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth.

]]> Wed, 27 Nov 2024 16:05:49 -0500 Dr. Tony Pisani Dr. Tony Pisani 95 Welcome to “Never the Same,” where we explore how influential people and ideas have evolved over time and where they might go in the future. Reflecting the ever-changing nature of life and personal growth. Each episode features conversations with guests from various fields, highlighting defining moments and shifts in thinking. The podcast aims to uncover new insights for suicide prevention while offering broader perspectives on personal and professional growth.

]]> social science, science, mental health, psychology, suicide prevention, technology No Luke Pisani Hannah Corcoran Tony Pisani Hannah Corcoran