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      <title>Fernando Cao Hit $350K a Month (All From Twitter)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Fernando Cao, founder of RevenueFlow.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Fernando Cao<br>0:30 From Personal Brand Agency to a $3M GTM Agency<br>2:08 Hiring 50 People in 4 Months "Sounded Sexy on Paper"<br>6:31 The Centralized Intelligence System Powering His Agency<br>13:32 How to Diagnose a Stalled Revenue Engine<br>27:53 The GTM Myths Most Founders Still Believe<br>32:55 How Claude Code Design Builds Every Sales Deck<br>45:04 The Value-First Outbound Move That Books Meetings<br>59:17 Hormozi's One-Channel Rule That Took Him to $350K<br>1:01:30 Find Fernando + RevenueFlow</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Fernando Cao, founder of RevenueFlow.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Fernando Cao<br>0:30 From Personal Brand Agency to a $3M GTM Agency<br>2:08 Hiring 50 People in 4 Months "Sounded Sexy on Paper"<br>6:31 The Centralized Intelligence System Powering His Agency<br>13:32 How to Diagnose a Stalled Revenue Engine<br>27:53 The GTM Myths Most Founders Still Believe<br>32:55 How Claude Code Design Builds Every Sales Deck<br>45:04 The Value-First Outbound Move That Books Meetings<br>59:17 Hormozi's One-Channel Rule That Took Him to $350K<br>1:01:30 Find Fernando + RevenueFlow</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we talk with William Harris, founder of Elumynt.</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>Chapters</p><p>0:00 Meet William Harris<br>1:06 The Accidental Agency Origin<br>4:24 Hiring a Partner 3 Days Before COVID<br>5:22 Why Employees Beat Contractors at Scale<br>9:31 Remote Culture Built From Day One<br>17:07 The Hidden Cost of Great Agency Work<br>22:25 13 Acquisitions (Largest at $800M)<br>24:09 "We Bill Based on Facts"<br>30:18 The Inventory Problem No Agency Caught<br>35:34 Find Will + Elumynt</p>]]>
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      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Brent Ridge, founder of Beekman 1802.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>Chapters</p><p>0:00 Meet Brent Ridge<br>1:25 The Target Deal That Almost Bankrupted Beekman<br>4:21 Why Big Brands Stock Their Own Shelves<br>6:52 "We Wouldn't Spend a Dollar Until We Made $1.50"<br>13:22 "We Never Made Ourselves CEO"<br>14:39 Three CEOs for Three Stages<br>18:55 The Power Grab That Ended a CEO<br>25:58 "The Empty Vessel Makes the Most Noise"<br>34:36 "A Bad Workman Blames the Tool"<br>37:35 Find Brent + Goat Wisdom</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Brent Ridge, founder of Beekman 1802.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>Chapters</p><p>0:00 Meet Brent Ridge<br>1:25 The Target Deal That Almost Bankrupted Beekman<br>4:21 Why Big Brands Stock Their Own Shelves<br>6:52 "We Wouldn't Spend a Dollar Until We Made $1.50"<br>13:22 "We Never Made Ourselves CEO"<br>14:39 Three CEOs for Three Stages<br>18:55 The Power Grab That Ended a CEO<br>25:58 "The Empty Vessel Makes the Most Noise"<br>34:36 "A Bad Workman Blames the Tool"<br>37:35 Find Brent + Goat Wisdom</p>]]>
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      <title>Competitors Undercut Jason Fishman With AI (He Still Raised $100M)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Jason Fishman, founder of Digital Niche Agency (DNA).<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Jason Fishman<br>0:17 75 Pitch Decks to Raise $3M<br>1:10 Why He Built DNA in 2014<br>3:06 The Rule Change That Opened Investor Ads<br>4:49 From Basic Ads to Full-Funnel Investor Marketing<br>7:19 Which Companies This Model Works For<br>8:49 Why Most Campaigns Still Fail<br>10:40 Can Agencies Raise Capital to Acquire Businesses?<br>12:38 Equity vs Loans: The Real Tradeoff<br>14:23 The 1.8M Investor Database Moat<br>15:20 Rebuilding the Agency With Campaign Quarterbacks<br>21:52 "Hire Slow, Fire Fast" in Practice<br>24:01 The Training System: I Do, We Do, You Do<br>29:01 AI Adoption Rule: Better Than Human<br>31:15 Find Jason Fishman + Digital Niche Agency</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Jason Fishman, founder of Digital Niche Agency (DNA).<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Jason Fishman<br>0:17 75 Pitch Decks to Raise $3M<br>1:10 Why He Built DNA in 2014<br>3:06 The Rule Change That Opened Investor Ads<br>4:49 From Basic Ads to Full-Funnel Investor Marketing<br>7:19 Which Companies This Model Works For<br>8:49 Why Most Campaigns Still Fail<br>10:40 Can Agencies Raise Capital to Acquire Businesses?<br>12:38 Equity vs Loans: The Real Tradeoff<br>14:23 The 1.8M Investor Database Moat<br>15:20 Rebuilding the Agency With Campaign Quarterbacks<br>21:52 "Hire Slow, Fire Fast" in Practice<br>24:01 The Training System: I Do, We Do, You Do<br>29:01 AI Adoption Rule: Better Than Human<br>31:15 Find Jason Fishman + Digital Niche Agency</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:52:11 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we talk with Josh Iverson, founder of iMediaAudiences.</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor">http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Joshua Iverson<br>0:22 Selling the first ads on Facebook<br>1:12 The first scale moment<br>1:44 Losing $100K/month overnight<br>2:54 Building a genealogy ad network<br>3:54 First internal hire and arbitrage risk<br>4:46 What Ad Ops actually means<br>8:20 Why Google alone is not enough<br>10:11 Buyer-side vs seller-side Ad Ops<br>12:54 Laid off at NBC and starting over<br>14:29 The subscription-business entry point<br>15:55 Why local businesses struggle with agencies<br>18:33 The local agent-broker model<br>23:14 Pricing: retainers and media percentages<br>26:55 The 3x ROI promise and CPC reduction<br>30:07 Control vs scale in a license model<br>34:49 CRM, warm leads, and freemium offers<br>36:32 What most agencies miss with SMBs<br>39:06 Find Joshua + iMediaAudiences</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we talk with Josh Iverson, founder of iMediaAudiences.</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor">http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Joshua Iverson<br>0:22 Selling the first ads on Facebook<br>1:12 The first scale moment<br>1:44 Losing $100K/month overnight<br>2:54 Building a genealogy ad network<br>3:54 First internal hire and arbitrage risk<br>4:46 What Ad Ops actually means<br>8:20 Why Google alone is not enough<br>10:11 Buyer-side vs seller-side Ad Ops<br>12:54 Laid off at NBC and starting over<br>14:29 The subscription-business entry point<br>15:55 Why local businesses struggle with agencies<br>18:33 The local agent-broker model<br>23:14 Pricing: retainers and media percentages<br>26:55 The 3x ROI promise and CPC reduction<br>30:07 Control vs scale in a license model<br>34:49 CRM, warm leads, and freemium offers<br>36:32 What most agencies miss with SMBs<br>39:06 Find Joshua + iMediaAudiences</p>]]>
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      <title>Lori McDonald Went From NASA Engineer to 20-Person Agency Founder</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we talk with Lori McDonald, founder of Brilliance Business Solutions. A 20-person ecomm marketing agency.</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>00:00 We Sold Out — Then Hit a Wall<br>00:19 NASA to Founder: Lori’s Unlikely Career Pivot<br>00:49 The Brutal “Hobby vs Business” Moment<br>04:11 The Price Increase That Changed Everything<br>06:20 Know Your Numbers or Stall Your Growth<br>08:27 Fixed Bid vs Hourly: What Actually Protects Margins<br>11:24 “Success Plans”: Win-Win Retainers That Work<br>11:53 The Leadership Skill Most Teams Avoid: Healthy Conflict<br>15:35 How to Introduce Conflict Culture After an Acquisition<br>20:31 Gossip, Triangling, and Unhealthy Team Dynamics<br>27:59 They Thought Remote Would Fail — They Were Wrong<br>33:50 Hiring for Values, Not Just Resume Skills<br>35:37 Buying a Business Isn’t “Easy Mode”<br>37:20 From Demand Surge to Capacity Crunch in Manufacturing<br>42:32 What Lori Is Focused on Now: Repeat Rate + Margin Growth</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we talk with Lori McDonald, founder of Brilliance Business Solutions. A 20-person ecomm marketing agency.</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>00:00 We Sold Out — Then Hit a Wall<br>00:19 NASA to Founder: Lori’s Unlikely Career Pivot<br>00:49 The Brutal “Hobby vs Business” Moment<br>04:11 The Price Increase That Changed Everything<br>06:20 Know Your Numbers or Stall Your Growth<br>08:27 Fixed Bid vs Hourly: What Actually Protects Margins<br>11:24 “Success Plans”: Win-Win Retainers That Work<br>11:53 The Leadership Skill Most Teams Avoid: Healthy Conflict<br>15:35 How to Introduce Conflict Culture After an Acquisition<br>20:31 Gossip, Triangling, and Unhealthy Team Dynamics<br>27:59 They Thought Remote Would Fail — They Were Wrong<br>33:50 Hiring for Values, Not Just Resume Skills<br>35:37 Buying a Business Isn’t “Easy Mode”<br>37:20 From Demand Surge to Capacity Crunch in Manufacturing<br>42:32 What Lori Is Focused on Now: Repeat Rate + Margin Growth</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:52:05 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Lior Eldan Saw AI As An Existential Crisis (Now It Runs The Agency)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Lior Eldan, co-founder and COO of Moburst.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>00:00 Meet Lior Eldan<br>00:20 From a Kitchen in Israel to Google and Samsung<br>00:58 "We Kind of Stumbled Into Being an Agency"<br>02:44 The Moment AI Felt Like an Existential Threat<br>05:42 Why Lior Built an AI Champions Program<br>10:58 "Most Companies Just Send an Email About AI"<br>11:19 Why Canceling Billable Work Was the Only Option<br>14:57 How the Hackathon Became a Monthly Product<br>17:02 The Boring Legal Step That Unblocked Everything<br>20:12 Why Home Tests Are Now Useless for Hiring<br>22:14 When Product, Design, and Dev Become One Role<br>25:05 The New Hire That Vibe Codes on Weekends<br>27:40 Builders vs. Domain Experts — You Need Both<br>31:57 "Skills Are a Commodity — Data Is Our Secret Sauce"<br>35:08 The Tool Scanning Reddit for Client Opportunities<br>38:17 Find Lior + Moburst</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Lior Eldan, co-founder and COO of Moburst.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>00:00 Meet Lior Eldan<br>00:20 From a Kitchen in Israel to Google and Samsung<br>00:58 "We Kind of Stumbled Into Being an Agency"<br>02:44 The Moment AI Felt Like an Existential Threat<br>05:42 Why Lior Built an AI Champions Program<br>10:58 "Most Companies Just Send an Email About AI"<br>11:19 Why Canceling Billable Work Was the Only Option<br>14:57 How the Hackathon Became a Monthly Product<br>17:02 The Boring Legal Step That Unblocked Everything<br>20:12 Why Home Tests Are Now Useless for Hiring<br>22:14 When Product, Design, and Dev Become One Role<br>25:05 The New Hire That Vibe Codes on Weekends<br>27:40 Builders vs. Domain Experts — You Need Both<br>31:57 "Skills Are a Commodity — Data Is Our Secret Sauce"<br>35:08 The Tool Scanning Reddit for Client Opportunities<br>38:17 Find Lior + Moburst</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:52:03 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Stephane Gringer's Team Quit on Day 1 (He Called It a Godsend)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Stephane Gringer, founder of Voxaic.ai<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Stephane Gringer<br>1:10 When Brand Owners Couldn't Tell It Was AI<br>2:14 The 1,000-Ad Problem Nobody Talks About<br>4:08 How to Know When Your Brand Is Drifting<br>8:27 "People Buy With Emotion — Even in Enterprise Sales"<br>11:41 Building His Wife's Modeling Agency From Scratch<br>16:35 When to Map the Business vs. Just Build<br>18:46 How AI Changed the Way He Transforms Companies<br>21:43 The Batman Moment That Changed His Career<br>25:08 "I Walk In on Monday — Where's My Team?"<br>27:33 The 7-Day Shutdown That Fixed Everything<br>30:02 The Two Hires That Solved 90% of His Problems<br>32:21 Scaling AI Without Killing Your Brand<br>34:48 Find Stephane + Voxaic.ai</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Stephane Gringer, founder of Voxaic.ai<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>---</p><p>0:00 Meet Stephane Gringer<br>1:10 When Brand Owners Couldn't Tell It Was AI<br>2:14 The 1,000-Ad Problem Nobody Talks About<br>4:08 How to Know When Your Brand Is Drifting<br>8:27 "People Buy With Emotion — Even in Enterprise Sales"<br>11:41 Building His Wife's Modeling Agency From Scratch<br>16:35 When to Map the Business vs. Just Build<br>18:46 How AI Changed the Way He Transforms Companies<br>21:43 The Batman Moment That Changed His Career<br>25:08 "I Walk In on Monday — Where's My Team?"<br>27:33 The 7-Day Shutdown That Fixed Everything<br>30:02 The Two Hires That Solved 90% of His Problems<br>32:21 Scaling AI Without Killing Your Brand<br>34:48 Find Stephane + Voxaic.ai</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:52:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Jason Berkowitz Learned SEO to Get Gym Clients (Then Built a 7-fig Agency By Accident)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Jason Berkowitz, founder of Break the Web.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>----</p><p>00:00 Meet Jason Berkowitz<br>01:12 The Exit Interview That Forced Him to Delegate<br>02:33 Building Links From His Queens Apartment<br>05:39 Why He Went Fully Global (Zero US Employees)<br>10:02 "Getting Ghosted by Girls AND Employees"<br>12:10 Rules vs. Core Values (The Difference)<br>17:24 "The Hills You'd Die On" Aren't Worth It<br>19:32 Not Firing Fast Enough (The Fear of Things Breaking)<br>24:49 The 7 Pillars of His Agency<br>29:44 "Kickass Service AND Kickass Communication"<br>32:54 No Contracts — Earn It Every Month<br>36:01 The "Gap of Disappointment"<br>38:59 "Nine Times Out of 10, We Avoid Founders"<br>41:20 When Clients Get Promoted, They Bring Him Along<br>44:04 Find Jason + Break the Web</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Jason Berkowitz, founder of Break the Web.<p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>----</p><p>00:00 Meet Jason Berkowitz<br>01:12 The Exit Interview That Forced Him to Delegate<br>02:33 Building Links From His Queens Apartment<br>05:39 Why He Went Fully Global (Zero US Employees)<br>10:02 "Getting Ghosted by Girls AND Employees"<br>12:10 Rules vs. Core Values (The Difference)<br>17:24 "The Hills You'd Die On" Aren't Worth It<br>19:32 Not Firing Fast Enough (The Fear of Things Breaking)<br>24:49 The 7 Pillars of His Agency<br>29:44 "Kickass Service AND Kickass Communication"<br>32:54 No Contracts — Earn It Every Month<br>36:01 The "Gap of Disappointment"<br>38:59 "Nine Times Out of 10, We Avoid Founders"<br>41:20 When Clients Get Promoted, They Bring Him Along<br>44:04 Find Jason + Break the Web</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:51:57 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Kathryn Wilson Built a 35-Person Agency (By Ignoring Profit)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Kathryn Wilson, Founder and CEO of VUE Health.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Kathryn Wilson<br>00:56 She Built an Agency From Scratch — Senior First<br>03:08 Why Most Founders Hire Too Late and Too Junior<br>03:20 "Lack of Leadership Is Expensive"<br>04:10 How to Audition 18 Directors Before You Hire One<br>06:27 Hiring the Chief Innovation Officer<br>08:28 More Expensive Per Hour, Cheaper Per Project<br>10:30 "We're Not Selling Sneakers — People's Lives Are at Stake"<br>11:10 Why She Hired a Personal Chef (Not a Foosball Table)<br>14:51 The "Zero Asshole Policy" in Hiring<br>16:09 Building Teams With Personality Data<br>18:54 Flat Structure: Five Pods, Three Products Each<br>21:33 Skills Get Screened Before Kathryn Ever Shows Up<br>23:37 Matching 300 Freelancers to Clients With AI<br>26:33 No Annual Reviews — Just Weekly KPIs<br>28:07 Find Kathryn + VUE Health</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Kathryn Wilson, Founder and CEO of VUE Health.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Kathryn Wilson<br>00:56 She Built an Agency From Scratch — Senior First<br>03:08 Why Most Founders Hire Too Late and Too Junior<br>03:20 "Lack of Leadership Is Expensive"<br>04:10 How to Audition 18 Directors Before You Hire One<br>06:27 Hiring the Chief Innovation Officer<br>08:28 More Expensive Per Hour, Cheaper Per Project<br>10:30 "We're Not Selling Sneakers — People's Lives Are at Stake"<br>11:10 Why She Hired a Personal Chef (Not a Foosball Table)<br>14:51 The "Zero Asshole Policy" in Hiring<br>16:09 Building Teams With Personality Data<br>18:54 Flat Structure: Five Pods, Three Products Each<br>21:33 Skills Get Screened Before Kathryn Ever Shows Up<br>23:37 Matching 300 Freelancers to Clients With AI<br>26:33 No Annual Reviews — Just Weekly KPIs<br>28:07 Find Kathryn + VUE Health</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:51:54 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with David Reske, founder and CEO of Nowspeed.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet David Reske<br>01:11 The Moment Nowspeed Became Real<br>02:39 Why Founders Can't Build Sales Teams<br>04:30 The 3 Things That Fixed Sales<br>07:15 "The Number One Thing: Stop Hiring"<br>09:28 Flat Orgs vs. Structured Orgs<br>11:52 "The CEO Becomes the Bottleneck"<br>13:21 Why Nowspeed Went 100% Remote<br>16:10 The Camera Rule That Changed Culture<br>17:36 Why Outsourcing Nearly Broke Them<br>19:42 Agency vs. Contractor: How to Decide<br>23:14 The Cost-of-One-FTE Marketing Model<br>28:40 What Is Generative Engine Optimization?<br>29:57 The Solar Installer Moment<br>35:35 Find David + Nowspeed</p>]]>
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      <title>Nate McKelvey Expected 9/11 to End His Business (Then Made $1M In A Week)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Nate McKelvey, founder and CEO of Bobos AI.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Nate McKelvey<br>01:06 Building Jets.com Before Google Existed<br>04:05 "I Maxed Every Credit Card I Had — and My Wife's"<br>04:55 Growing Too Fast (It Set Them Back a Full Year)<br>05:59 How Nate Helped Planet Fitness Go From 300 to 1,000 Locations<br>07:51 "I Owed My Client a Hundred Thousand Dollars"<br>11:48 "They Didn't Want Nate — They Wanted Arnold"<br>12:24 The Ceiling You Hit When You Can't Scale Yourself<br>12:54 "What Used to Take Years Now Takes Minutes"<br>19:22 Running Dozens of Clients as a Team of 2<br>21:11 AI LinkedIn Replies That Don't Break the Rules<br>23:55 Find Nate + Bobos.ai</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Nate McKelvey, founder and CEO of Bobos AI.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Nate McKelvey<br>01:06 Building Jets.com Before Google Existed<br>04:05 "I Maxed Every Credit Card I Had — and My Wife's"<br>04:55 Growing Too Fast (It Set Them Back a Full Year)<br>05:59 How Nate Helped Planet Fitness Go From 300 to 1,000 Locations<br>07:51 "I Owed My Client a Hundred Thousand Dollars"<br>11:48 "They Didn't Want Nate — They Wanted Arnold"<br>12:24 The Ceiling You Hit When You Can't Scale Yourself<br>12:54 "What Used to Take Years Now Takes Minutes"<br>19:22 Running Dozens of Clients as a Team of 2<br>21:11 AI LinkedIn Replies That Don't Break the Rules<br>23:55 Find Nate + Bobos.ai</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Blake Minho Kim, co-founder of Myosin, a marketing network helping web3 companies grow.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a> <br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>0:00 Meet Blake Kim<br>0:44 "A Traditional Agency Is a Ponzi Scheme"<br>1:04 Why the Agency Model Is Broken<br>6:13 What Members Get Instead of a Salary<br>9:13 Why Myosin Pays Everyone in Stablecoins<br>10:57 The Reputation Score System (Peer Reviews + Bayesian Average)<br>16:09 How Compensation Actually Works Across 100 Freelancers<br>18:54 Overseas Talent, Geographic Pay, and the New Reality<br>22:14 "If You're Not Using AI, You Will Get Left Behind"<br>22:43 Why AI Won't Replace Creative Directors<br>25:12 "Traditional Agency on the Front End, Network on the Back End"<br>29:32 Vibe-Coding Their Own Internal OS (Synapse on Replit)<br>32:40 Freelancers Take 60–70% of Gross Revenue<br>33:48 "What Used to Cost $200k Now Costs $200 in AI Credits"<br>34:33 Network Effects, Flywheels, and the IPO Plan<br>36:23 Find Blake + Myosin.xyz</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Blake Minho Kim, co-founder of Myosin, a marketing network helping web3 companies grow.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a> <br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>0:00 Meet Blake Kim<br>0:44 "A Traditional Agency Is a Ponzi Scheme"<br>1:04 Why the Agency Model Is Broken<br>6:13 What Members Get Instead of a Salary<br>9:13 Why Myosin Pays Everyone in Stablecoins<br>10:57 The Reputation Score System (Peer Reviews + Bayesian Average)<br>16:09 How Compensation Actually Works Across 100 Freelancers<br>18:54 Overseas Talent, Geographic Pay, and the New Reality<br>22:14 "If You're Not Using AI, You Will Get Left Behind"<br>22:43 Why AI Won't Replace Creative Directors<br>25:12 "Traditional Agency on the Front End, Network on the Back End"<br>29:32 Vibe-Coding Their Own Internal OS (Synapse on Replit)<br>32:40 Freelancers Take 60–70% of Gross Revenue<br>33:48 "What Used to Cost $200k Now Costs $200 in AI Credits"<br>34:33 Network Effects, Flywheels, and the IPO Plan<br>36:23 Find Blake + Myosin.xyz</p>]]>
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      <title>Shoshana Winter Rebuilt a 60-Person Agency (Steal Her Turnaround Playbook)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we talk with Shoshana Winter. The second employee at the world's first social network, now CEO of Converge Marketing.<p>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a>  <br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Intro<br>00:29 What She Walked Into<br>02:32 Why Clients Were Shaky<br>05:13 Fixing At-Risk Clients<br>07:08 Rating Every Client 1–5<br>09:20 Using SWOT Analysis<br>12:54 SWOT Explained Simply<br>16:33 Strategy vs. Tactics<br>19:54 Strategy vs. Plan<br>25:01 Failing Fast<br>26:13 Fail Fast at Converge<br>31:01 Are We Organized Right?<br>35:08 Positioning at 60 People<br>38:28 What Is Positioning?<br>43:25 The Positioning Formula<br>46:23 Positioning for Campaigns<br>49:23 Advice to Yourself on Day One<br>53:00 Where to Find Shoshana</p>]]>
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      <title>Patrick Gilbert Refused AI for 3 Years (Today He's Google's AI Speaker)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we chat with Patrick Gilbert. CEO of AdVenture Media.<p>---<br>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a>  <br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00  Intro — Meet Patrick Gilbert<br>01:17  How Patrick Went From AI Hater to AI Superfan<br>04:41  Doubling Every Year — Then Hitting the Wall<br>08:06  What Structure Did He Cut (and Why)?<br>10:06  Build First or Get Revenue First? AI Changes the Game<br>13:38  Why They Were Anti-Tech (But Pro-AI)<br>15:38  What Does 'Structure' Even Mean?<br>17:37  SOPs vs. Culture — The Big Trade-Off<br>20:55  Builder Mentality — The New Culture at AdVenture<br>22:43  Idiotic Optimism — AdVenture's Secret Weapon<br>24:52  The Hackathon Mistake — A Lesson in Culture Building<br>27:52  Why 'Idiotic Optimism' Beats 'Smart Optimism'<br>33:42  "Pessimists Are Often Right, But Optimists Are Often Rich"<br>41:30  It's Not Risk — It's Side Projects That Change Everything<br>46:33  Patrick's New Book — "Never Always Never Never"<br>55:26  Red Ocean vs. Blue Ocean — Why Marketing Agencies Are Shrinking<br>1:06:03  Nobody Actually Has a Strategy<br>1:17:52  Business Strategy vs. Marketing Strategy<br>1:25:12  YouTube Ads Are TV Ads (and Nobody Knows It)<br>1:28:12  How AI Actually Helps (It's Not Just Productivity)<br>1:35:19  Non-Technical Founders Using Claude Code<br>1:41:06  Where to Find Patrick + His AI-Powered Book</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we chat with Patrick Gilbert. CEO of AdVenture Media.<p>---<br>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a>  <br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00  Intro — Meet Patrick Gilbert<br>01:17  How Patrick Went From AI Hater to AI Superfan<br>04:41  Doubling Every Year — Then Hitting the Wall<br>08:06  What Structure Did He Cut (and Why)?<br>10:06  Build First or Get Revenue First? AI Changes the Game<br>13:38  Why They Were Anti-Tech (But Pro-AI)<br>15:38  What Does 'Structure' Even Mean?<br>17:37  SOPs vs. Culture — The Big Trade-Off<br>20:55  Builder Mentality — The New Culture at AdVenture<br>22:43  Idiotic Optimism — AdVenture's Secret Weapon<br>24:52  The Hackathon Mistake — A Lesson in Culture Building<br>27:52  Why 'Idiotic Optimism' Beats 'Smart Optimism'<br>33:42  "Pessimists Are Often Right, But Optimists Are Often Rich"<br>41:30  It's Not Risk — It's Side Projects That Change Everything<br>46:33  Patrick's New Book — "Never Always Never Never"<br>55:26  Red Ocean vs. Blue Ocean — Why Marketing Agencies Are Shrinking<br>1:06:03  Nobody Actually Has a Strategy<br>1:17:52  Business Strategy vs. Marketing Strategy<br>1:25:12  YouTube Ads Are TV Ads (and Nobody Knows It)<br>1:28:12  How AI Actually Helps (It's Not Just Productivity)<br>1:35:19  Non-Technical Founders Using Claude Code<br>1:41:06  Where to Find Patrick + His AI-Powered Book</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:51:36 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Adrian Fagerlund Built an Ad Network During COVID (Then Signed 10,000 Brands)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Today we chat with Adrian Fagerlund. Founder and CEO of Linkby.<br>---<br>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a><p>00:00 Meet Adrian Fagerlund<br>00:15 Launching a marketplace during COVID<br>00:57 The chicken-or-egg problem, getting the first brands and publishers<br>2:31 "We had to hire 15 people at once"<br>4:51 How he decided which roles to hire for<br>6:49 Going 100mph but slowing down for hiring<br>8:35 "The structure hasn't really changed," what he got right early<br>9:09 Why he doesn't use recruiters or AI to hire<br>12:16 The 4-step hiring process: vibe check, sample, puzzle piece fit<br>14:55 "Blinded by glossy packaging," the hire that burned him<br>15:37 The cultural difference that changes interviews in America<br>19:53 How to vibe check when you can't describe your culture<br>22:52 "Lifers," the employees who followed him across companies<br>24:37 "You can't teach hunger," the ESOP and commission structure<br>26:33 How to tell if someone is moldable and hungry in an interview<br>28:06 The type of questions that reveal real candidates<br>29:23 Can you spot moldability before the 30/60/90?<br>30:59 Day-in-the-life testing and giving feedback live<br>32:20 The onboarding process that keeps people around<br>35:23 Training library: what's async vs. live<br>37:59 How to decide what to train at $1M to $5M<br>39:00 Training by need: new products, new skills, new focus<br>40:48 How to make sure 100+ people actually adopt a new skill<br>44:57 How to know if people understand AND do what you trained<br>47:43 AI Visibility: helping brands rank inside ChatGPT<br>50:02 What is reverse pitching?<br>50:29 Use case: how an ecomm brand uses Linkby<br>54:48 The publisher side: how writers make money with Linkby<br>58:10 Where to find Adrian + Linkby</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Today we chat with Adrian Fagerlund. Founder and CEO of Linkby.<br>---<br>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/" rel="noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor" rel="noopener">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a><p>00:00 Meet Adrian Fagerlund<br>00:15 Launching a marketplace during COVID<br>00:57 The chicken-or-egg problem, getting the first brands and publishers<br>2:31 "We had to hire 15 people at once"<br>4:51 How he decided which roles to hire for<br>6:49 Going 100mph but slowing down for hiring<br>8:35 "The structure hasn't really changed," what he got right early<br>9:09 Why he doesn't use recruiters or AI to hire<br>12:16 The 4-step hiring process: vibe check, sample, puzzle piece fit<br>14:55 "Blinded by glossy packaging," the hire that burned him<br>15:37 The cultural difference that changes interviews in America<br>19:53 How to vibe check when you can't describe your culture<br>22:52 "Lifers," the employees who followed him across companies<br>24:37 "You can't teach hunger," the ESOP and commission structure<br>26:33 How to tell if someone is moldable and hungry in an interview<br>28:06 The type of questions that reveal real candidates<br>29:23 Can you spot moldability before the 30/60/90?<br>30:59 Day-in-the-life testing and giving feedback live<br>32:20 The onboarding process that keeps people around<br>35:23 Training library: what's async vs. live<br>37:59 How to decide what to train at $1M to $5M<br>39:00 Training by need: new products, new skills, new focus<br>40:48 How to make sure 100+ people actually adopt a new skill<br>44:57 How to know if people understand AND do what you trained<br>47:43 AI Visibility: helping brands rank inside ChatGPT<br>50:02 What is reverse pitching?<br>50:29 Use case: how an ecomm brand uses Linkby<br>54:48 The publisher side: how writers make money with Linkby<br>58:10 Where to find Adrian + Linkby</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:51:33 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Samuel Schmitt. Founder of Thruuu — an SEO tool used by 70,000 people.<br>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Samuel Schmitt<br>00:18 Building an SEO tool with zero SEO knowledge<br>00:59 Why he kept the tool completely free for 2 years<br>05:07 Losing 3 years of growth by not charging early enough<br>06:40 The 10 mistakes you shouldn't make when building a SaaS<br>07:18 Building a SaaS as a side project while working full-time<br>08:59 Why too much cash in the bank account is a problem<br>10:49 Learning to delegate when you've never hired before<br>13:09 Paying 10 copywriters to write the same article as a test<br>15:30 Running a 70,000-user tool with 4-5 part-time freelancers<br>16:25 Why he refuses to hire full-time in France<br>19:08 How he structures steady part-time workloads every month<br>22:13 The fear of giving your code to a stranger on Upwork<br>24:20 Why SaaS isn't dead but having just one product is risky<br>29:03 A private bank client built a $50K tool alone with Claude Code<br>32:45 Building a portfolio of SaaS products in the next 12 months<br>35:09 Where to find Sam</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Samuel Schmitt. Founder of Thruuu — an SEO tool used by 70,000 people.<br>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Samuel Schmitt<br>00:18 Building an SEO tool with zero SEO knowledge<br>00:59 Why he kept the tool completely free for 2 years<br>05:07 Losing 3 years of growth by not charging early enough<br>06:40 The 10 mistakes you shouldn't make when building a SaaS<br>07:18 Building a SaaS as a side project while working full-time<br>08:59 Why too much cash in the bank account is a problem<br>10:49 Learning to delegate when you've never hired before<br>13:09 Paying 10 copywriters to write the same article as a test<br>15:30 Running a 70,000-user tool with 4-5 part-time freelancers<br>16:25 Why he refuses to hire full-time in France<br>19:08 How he structures steady part-time workloads every month<br>22:13 The fear of giving your code to a stranger on Upwork<br>24:20 Why SaaS isn't dead but having just one product is risky<br>29:03 A private bank client built a $50K tool alone with Claude Code<br>32:45 Building a portfolio of SaaS products in the next 12 months<br>35:09 Where to find Sam</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:51:30 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Gilad Bechar Cut Costs With AI (But Hired Like Crazy)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Gilad Bechar Founder of Moburst.<br>---<br>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>0:00 Meet Gilad Bechar<br>0:11 All-In on AI (But Hiring More, Not Less)<br>0:48 "We Thought We'd Downsize"<br>3:32 The Roles Nobody Expected to Create<br>6:48 Why Every AI Tool Needs a Product Manager<br>8:17 The LinkedIn Content Machine (Full Breakdown)<br>12:24 Tinder for Content — Swipe to Schedule<br>14:39 The Chef Analogy — Tasting AI Output<br>16:00 Writers Became Editors-in-Chief<br>19:00 Every Role Got Promoted<br>21:12 One AI Engineer Can Transform a Full Agency<br>25:56 "50% of Our Hires Need to Be AI Native"<br>28:18 The Token Bill That Doesn't Scale<br>32:45 How to Test for AI Skills in Hiring<br>36:24 Five Acquisitions and Counting<br>40:09 What Moburst Is Buying Next<br>43:05 Find Gilad + Moburst</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Gilad Bechar Founder of Moburst.<br>---<br>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>0:00 Meet Gilad Bechar<br>0:11 All-In on AI (But Hiring More, Not Less)<br>0:48 "We Thought We'd Downsize"<br>3:32 The Roles Nobody Expected to Create<br>6:48 Why Every AI Tool Needs a Product Manager<br>8:17 The LinkedIn Content Machine (Full Breakdown)<br>12:24 Tinder for Content — Swipe to Schedule<br>14:39 The Chef Analogy — Tasting AI Output<br>16:00 Writers Became Editors-in-Chief<br>19:00 Every Role Got Promoted<br>21:12 One AI Engineer Can Transform a Full Agency<br>25:56 "50% of Our Hires Need to Be AI Native"<br>28:18 The Token Bill That Doesn't Scale<br>32:45 How to Test for AI Skills in Hiring<br>36:24 Five Acquisitions and Counting<br>40:09 What Moburst Is Buying Next<br>43:05 Find Gilad + Moburst</p>]]>
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      <title>Tom Coburn Quit Pre-Med (To Raise $92M)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Tom Coburn. Founder of Jebbit. CEO of Waking Up: A meditation app he's building with Sam Harris.<br>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Tom Coburn<br>00:54 7 years of "fake" product-market fit<br>03:10 Winning a business plan with no code and dropping out of pre-med<br>05:15 The eBay Churn: Losing $2M in ARR overnight<br>07:08 Why the entire go-to-market strategy was wrong<br>12:25 The 2.5-hour meeting that saved the company's culture<br>20:35 Joining Sam Harris to run the Waking Up app<br>24:40 Scaling a business heavily focused on product, not marketing<br>27:45 Why the team flat-out rejected paid UGC actors<br>30:30 The 10x difference between authentic partners and paid influencers<br>35:18 Optimizers vs. Sufferers: Customizing the user journey<br>40:14 Why a management team was finally necessary<br>43:47 Where to find Tom</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Tom Coburn. Founder of Jebbit. CEO of Waking Up: A meditation app he's building with Sam Harris.<br>---</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>00:00 Meet Tom Coburn<br>00:54 7 years of "fake" product-market fit<br>03:10 Winning a business plan with no code and dropping out of pre-med<br>05:15 The eBay Churn: Losing $2M in ARR overnight<br>07:08 Why the entire go-to-market strategy was wrong<br>12:25 The 2.5-hour meeting that saved the company's culture<br>20:35 Joining Sam Harris to run the Waking Up app<br>24:40 Scaling a business heavily focused on product, not marketing<br>27:45 Why the team flat-out rejected paid UGC actors<br>30:30 The 10x difference between authentic partners and paid influencers<br>35:18 Optimizers vs. Sufferers: Customizing the user journey<br>40:14 Why a management team was finally necessary<br>43:47 Where to find Tom</p>]]>
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      <title>A Lawsuit Drained Kevin Roy's Bank (Then He Built A 7-Fig SEO Empire)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Billy Moyer. Founder and CEO of SOS Leadership. The legendary Operations consulting firm.</p><p>————————————</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>0:00 Meet Billy Moyer<br>0:54 "We crashed and burned" scaling before ready<br>3:14 The retainer model that changed everything<br>6:10 Why great consultants can't sell (and how Billy profits)<br>8:56 Training part-time coaches without losing quality<br>14:55 "Coaches were paying to work for us"<br>22:19 The founder who’s overseas hires failed (now has 15 hires)<br>31:41 Selling consulting by giving it away for free<br>38:26 The private equity play Billy's building inside his firm<br>43:09 The handshake deal that burned him<br>47:28 The shadow side of leadership, what's really holding you back<br>58:35 Where to find Billy + The Upside Down Leader</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 13:51:15 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we chat with Tom Shapiro. Founder and CEO of Stratabeat, the legendary B2B organic marketing agency.</p><p>Want his free GEO playbook?</p><p>Message me on LinkedIn or Twitter and I’ll send it to you (links below)</p><p>————————————</p><p>💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn:  <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfoconnor/</a><br>🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/BrianFOConnor">https://x.com/BrianFOConnor</a></p><p>0:00 Meet Tom Shapiro<br>1:03 Need to turn the business around<br>4:20 Why following best practices = failure<br>8:27 Be Radically Different (in Marketing)<br>13:09 Japan vs US Business culture<br>18:59 Your business culture is an extension of you<br>19:43 Avoid these hiring mistakes<br>23:40 Testing candidates (across levels)<br>25:21 When to use a Freelancer vs hire in-house<br>29:20 The investment everyone misses (Onboarding!)<br>32:59 What to do when you sell too much<br>36:28 How you see the world different (in next stage of business)<br>39:00 Get Tom’s AI SEO playbook</p>]]>
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