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    <description>No state has fallen further than Kansas in America’s Health Rankings. We used to be 8th in 1991.

Why did we slip so far down in the rankings? The answer might surprise you; it’s based on a leadership challenge. 

At the Kansas Health Foundation, our bold vision is to make Kansas the healthiest state in the nation and to do so, this movement must be powered by Kansans in positions of authority and influence to shift Health outcomes. 

Starting with the launch of the 2025 publication, Leading Health, written by President and CEO of the Kansas Health Foundation, Ed O’Malley, this podcast aims to break down key concepts of this leadership challenge and actionable ways that we can work together to make a real impact on Health in Kansas. 

In each episode, Ed O’Malley, and Senior Advisor at Kansas Health Foundation, Susan Kang, will highlight a chapter in the book and discuss with Kansans who are actively engaged in expanding our definition of Health. 

Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </description>
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    <itunes:summary>No state has fallen further than Kansas in America’s Health Rankings. We used to be 8th in 1991.

Why did we slip so far down in the rankings? The answer might surprise you; it’s based on a leadership challenge. 

At the Kansas Health Foundation, our bold vision is to make Kansas the healthiest state in the nation and to do so, this movement must be powered by Kansans in positions of authority and influence to shift Health outcomes. 

Starting with the launch of the 2025 publication, Leading Health, written by President and CEO of the Kansas Health Foundation, Ed O’Malley, this podcast aims to break down key concepts of this leadership challenge and actionable ways that we can work together to make a real impact on Health in Kansas. 

In each episode, Ed O’Malley, and Senior Advisor at Kansas Health Foundation, Susan Kang, will highlight a chapter in the book and discuss with Kansans who are actively engaged in expanding our definition of Health. 

Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode, we’re transitioning from Part Two in the book <em>Leading Health</em> and setting up Part Three, which introduces nine mindsets that the 30,000 need to hold if Kansas is going to lead the nation in health. </p><p>In Part One, we describe the symptoms of Kansas, ranked #29 at the time of writing this book. In Part Two, listeners learn that the diagnosis isn’t a health challenge, but a leadership challenge. Now, in Part Three, we give the prescription through nine mindsets that help develop the culture we need to get Kansas to #1 in America’s Health Rankings. </p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Part one covered the health reality in Kansas and introduced the "30,000" — the Kansans in key civic roles who can move the needle.</li><li>Part two revealed that the real issue isn't a health challenge; it's a leadership challenge.</li><li>Part three shifts to nine mindsets (not nine solutions) because closing the health gap is an adaptive challenge, not a simple problem to solve.</li><li>The 30,000 don't need to generate the solutions themselves — communities facing the greatest health disparities often already know what's needed. The job of the 30,000 is to create the conditions for those solutions to emerge.</li><li>The book's three-part structure is explained simply: Part one = symptoms, Part two = diagnosis, Part three = prescription.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Intro</p><p>1:15 – Recap Parts One and Two</p><p>2:09 – Why Mindsets, Not Solutions</p><p>3:59 – Adaptive Challenge and ALICE</p><p>4:54 – Conditions for Community Solutions</p><p>7:07 – Mindsets in Practice</p><p>8:12 – Creating Collaboration</p><p>9:17 – Symptoms, Diagnosis, Prescription</p><p>10:16 – Wrap Up and Next Episode</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode, we’re transitioning from Part Two in the book <em>Leading Health</em> and setting up Part Three, which introduces nine mindsets that the 30,000 need to hold if Kansas is going to lead the nation in health. </p><p>In Part One, we describe the symptoms of Kansas, ranked #29 at the time of writing this book. In Part Two, listeners learn that the diagnosis isn’t a health challenge, but a leadership challenge. Now, in Part Three, we give the prescription through nine mindsets that help develop the culture we need to get Kansas to #1 in America’s Health Rankings. </p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Part one covered the health reality in Kansas and introduced the "30,000" — the Kansans in key civic roles who can move the needle.</li><li>Part two revealed that the real issue isn't a health challenge; it's a leadership challenge.</li><li>Part three shifts to nine mindsets (not nine solutions) because closing the health gap is an adaptive challenge, not a simple problem to solve.</li><li>The 30,000 don't need to generate the solutions themselves — communities facing the greatest health disparities often already know what's needed. The job of the 30,000 is to create the conditions for those solutions to emerge.</li><li>The book's three-part structure is explained simply: Part one = symptoms, Part two = diagnosis, Part three = prescription.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Intro</p><p>1:15 – Recap Parts One and Two</p><p>2:09 – Why Mindsets, Not Solutions</p><p>3:59 – Adaptive Challenge and ALICE</p><p>4:54 – Conditions for Community Solutions</p><p>7:07 – Mindsets in Practice</p><p>8:12 – Creating Collaboration</p><p>9:17 – Symptoms, Diagnosis, Prescription</p><p>10:16 – Wrap Up and Next Episode</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode, we’re transitioning from Part Two in the book <em>Leading Health</em> and setting up Part Three, which introduces nine mindsets that the 30,000 need to hold if Kansas is going to lead the nation in health. </p><p>In Part One, we describe the symptoms of Kansas, ranked #29 at the time of writing this book. In Part Two, listeners learn that the diagnosis isn’t a health challenge, but a leadership challenge. Now, in Part Three, we give the prescription through nine mindsets that help develop the culture we need to get Kansas to #1 in America’s Health Rankings. </p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Part one covered the health reality in Kansas and introduced the "30,000" — the Kansans in key civic roles who can move the needle.</li><li>Part two revealed that the real issue isn't a health challenge; it's a leadership challenge.</li><li>Part three shifts to nine mindsets (not nine solutions) because closing the health gap is an adaptive challenge, not a simple problem to solve.</li><li>The 30,000 don't need to generate the solutions themselves — communities facing the greatest health disparities often already know what's needed. The job of the 30,000 is to create the conditions for those solutions to emerge.</li><li>The book's three-part structure is explained simply: Part one = symptoms, Part two = diagnosis, Part three = prescription.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Intro</p><p>1:15 – Recap Parts One and Two</p><p>2:09 – Why Mindsets, Not Solutions</p><p>3:59 – Adaptive Challenge and ALICE</p><p>4:54 – Conditions for Community Solutions</p><p>7:07 – Mindsets in Practice</p><p>8:12 – Creating Collaboration</p><p>9:17 – Symptoms, Diagnosis, Prescription</p><p>10:16 – Wrap Up and Next Episode</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest obstacle to improving health in Kansas isn't a lack of resources, knowledge, or will — but a fundamental misunderstanding of what leadership actually is?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of the Leading Health Podcast, we unpack one of the most provocative ideas in the book: having authority and exercising leadership are not the same thing. Fancy titles don't automatically mobilize people. And if Kansas is going to climb the national health rankings, those with power need to understand both what they can uniquely contribute — and what they simply cannot do alone.</p><p><br></p><p>Teresa Lovelady, President and CEO of HealthCore Clinic in Wichita, joins us again to bring these ideas to life with real-world stories, including a powerful moment during COVID that shows exactly what happens when authority either opens the door — or slams it shut.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><p>• Leadership is an activity, not a title. Exercising leadership means mobilizing others to make progress on tough, adaptive challenges — something a position alone cannot do.</p><p>• The 30,000 are necessary but not sufficient. Kansas's key civic and institutional leaders must play their part, but no single person or organization has enough authority to close the health gap alone.</p><p>• Even a governor's authority isn't enough. Adaptive challenges like improving population health require distributed effort across all levels of society.</p><p>• Authority comes with expectations — and those expectations often work against change. The people who grant authority typically want stability, not disruption. But real progress requires disruption.</p><p>• People in authority can make change less risky for others. By casting vision, acting as resource brokers, and creating safe spaces to experiment and fail, leaders with authority create conditions where others can lead too.</p><p>• The framework: protection, direction, and order. Marty Linsky's teaching offers a practical lens — authority's job is not to have the answer, but to protect risk-takers, provide direction, and establish order so others can do the work.</p><p>• When authority goes wrong, people fall through the cracks. Teresa's COVID vaccine story shows how rigid top-down thinking left 300 homebound seniors unvaccinated — and what it cost the people trying to do the right thing.</p><p>• Call to action: Build a culture that accepts risk. Members of the 30,000 should examine whether their organizations genuinely create space for risk-taking — because progress on closing the health gap demands it.</p><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Introduction &amp; Episode Overview</p><p>1:49 – Why Authority Isn't Enough</p><p>1:55 – Leadership vs. Authority: Fancy Titles Don't Mobilize People</p><p>3:16 – The 30,000's Role: Necessary but Insufficient to Climb the Health Rankings</p><p>4:22 – Guest Returns: Teresa Lovelady on Dual Citizenship (30,000 + ALICE)</p><p>5:55 – Making It Concrete: Teresa's Definition of Exercising Leadership</p><p>7:07 – COVID as a Case Study: Sharing Leadership Beyond Positions of Power</p><p>8:57 – What We Need From Authority: Certainty of Process &amp; Casting Vision</p><p>10:49 – Authority as Resource Broker: Clearing Paths, Connecting Resources, Setting Policy</p><p>12:44 – No Magic Wand: Wicked Problems, Limited Authority, and Working Together</p><p>14:42 – The Tension of Real Change: When Leadership Threatens Organizational Survival</p><p>15:42 – Where Authority Comes From: Expectations, Accountability, and Who Grants Power</p><p>15:56 – When People Expect "No Chaos": Why Leadership Disrupts</p><p>16:22 – The Penalty for Change: Trust, Access, and Job Risk</p><p>17:43 – Authority Isn't Enough: Avoiding Martyrs by Sharing the Work</p><p>18:50 – Using Authority Well: Direction, Resources, and a Safe Space to Lead</p><p>20:17 – What "Safe Space" Really Means: Permission to Make Mistakes</p><p>20:33 – Case Study: The Clinic Expansion "Swimming Pool" and Board Support</p><p>25:07 – Protection, Direction, Order: A Practical Framework for Authority</p><p>26:24 – How Authority Goes Wrong: The COVID Vaccine Homebound Gap</p><p>28:44 – Calls to Action &amp; What's Next in the Series</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><p><br></p><p>• Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) — <a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org">https://kansasleadershipcenter.org</a></p><p>• HealthCore Clinic (Teresa Lovelady's organization) — <a href="https://healthcoreclinic.org">https://healthcoreclinic.org</a></p><p>• America's Health Rankings — <a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org">https://www.americashealthrankings.org</a></p><p>• ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) population framework — <a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org">https://www.unitedforalice.org</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest obstacle to improving health in Kansas isn't a lack of resources, knowledge, or will — but a fundamental misunderstanding of what leadership actually is?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of the Leading Health Podcast, we unpack one of the most provocative ideas in the book: having authority and exercising leadership are not the same thing. Fancy titles don't automatically mobilize people. And if Kansas is going to climb the national health rankings, those with power need to understand both what they can uniquely contribute — and what they simply cannot do alone.</p><p><br></p><p>Teresa Lovelady, President and CEO of HealthCore Clinic in Wichita, joins us again to bring these ideas to life with real-world stories, including a powerful moment during COVID that shows exactly what happens when authority either opens the door — or slams it shut.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><p>• Leadership is an activity, not a title. Exercising leadership means mobilizing others to make progress on tough, adaptive challenges — something a position alone cannot do.</p><p>• The 30,000 are necessary but not sufficient. Kansas's key civic and institutional leaders must play their part, but no single person or organization has enough authority to close the health gap alone.</p><p>• Even a governor's authority isn't enough. Adaptive challenges like improving population health require distributed effort across all levels of society.</p><p>• Authority comes with expectations — and those expectations often work against change. The people who grant authority typically want stability, not disruption. But real progress requires disruption.</p><p>• People in authority can make change less risky for others. By casting vision, acting as resource brokers, and creating safe spaces to experiment and fail, leaders with authority create conditions where others can lead too.</p><p>• The framework: protection, direction, and order. Marty Linsky's teaching offers a practical lens — authority's job is not to have the answer, but to protect risk-takers, provide direction, and establish order so others can do the work.</p><p>• When authority goes wrong, people fall through the cracks. Teresa's COVID vaccine story shows how rigid top-down thinking left 300 homebound seniors unvaccinated — and what it cost the people trying to do the right thing.</p><p>• Call to action: Build a culture that accepts risk. Members of the 30,000 should examine whether their organizations genuinely create space for risk-taking — because progress on closing the health gap demands it.</p><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Introduction &amp; Episode Overview</p><p>1:49 – Why Authority Isn't Enough</p><p>1:55 – Leadership vs. Authority: Fancy Titles Don't Mobilize People</p><p>3:16 – The 30,000's Role: Necessary but Insufficient to Climb the Health Rankings</p><p>4:22 – Guest Returns: Teresa Lovelady on Dual Citizenship (30,000 + ALICE)</p><p>5:55 – Making It Concrete: Teresa's Definition of Exercising Leadership</p><p>7:07 – COVID as a Case Study: Sharing Leadership Beyond Positions of Power</p><p>8:57 – What We Need From Authority: Certainty of Process &amp; Casting Vision</p><p>10:49 – Authority as Resource Broker: Clearing Paths, Connecting Resources, Setting Policy</p><p>12:44 – No Magic Wand: Wicked Problems, Limited Authority, and Working Together</p><p>14:42 – The Tension of Real Change: When Leadership Threatens Organizational Survival</p><p>15:42 – Where Authority Comes From: Expectations, Accountability, and Who Grants Power</p><p>15:56 – When People Expect "No Chaos": Why Leadership Disrupts</p><p>16:22 – The Penalty for Change: Trust, Access, and Job Risk</p><p>17:43 – Authority Isn't Enough: Avoiding Martyrs by Sharing the Work</p><p>18:50 – Using Authority Well: Direction, Resources, and a Safe Space to Lead</p><p>20:17 – What "Safe Space" Really Means: Permission to Make Mistakes</p><p>20:33 – Case Study: The Clinic Expansion "Swimming Pool" and Board Support</p><p>25:07 – Protection, Direction, Order: A Practical Framework for Authority</p><p>26:24 – How Authority Goes Wrong: The COVID Vaccine Homebound Gap</p><p>28:44 – Calls to Action &amp; What's Next in the Series</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><p><br></p><p>• Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) — <a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org">https://kansasleadershipcenter.org</a></p><p>• HealthCore Clinic (Teresa Lovelady's organization) — <a href="https://healthcoreclinic.org">https://healthcoreclinic.org</a></p><p>• America's Health Rankings — <a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org">https://www.americashealthrankings.org</a></p><p>• ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) population framework — <a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org">https://www.unitedforalice.org</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest obstacle to improving health in Kansas isn't a lack of resources, knowledge, or will — but a fundamental misunderstanding of what leadership actually is?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of the Leading Health Podcast, we unpack one of the most provocative ideas in the book: having authority and exercising leadership are not the same thing. Fancy titles don't automatically mobilize people. And if Kansas is going to climb the national health rankings, those with power need to understand both what they can uniquely contribute — and what they simply cannot do alone.</p><p><br></p><p>Teresa Lovelady, President and CEO of HealthCore Clinic in Wichita, joins us again to bring these ideas to life with real-world stories, including a powerful moment during COVID that shows exactly what happens when authority either opens the door — or slams it shut.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><p>• Leadership is an activity, not a title. Exercising leadership means mobilizing others to make progress on tough, adaptive challenges — something a position alone cannot do.</p><p>• The 30,000 are necessary but not sufficient. Kansas's key civic and institutional leaders must play their part, but no single person or organization has enough authority to close the health gap alone.</p><p>• Even a governor's authority isn't enough. Adaptive challenges like improving population health require distributed effort across all levels of society.</p><p>• Authority comes with expectations — and those expectations often work against change. The people who grant authority typically want stability, not disruption. But real progress requires disruption.</p><p>• People in authority can make change less risky for others. By casting vision, acting as resource brokers, and creating safe spaces to experiment and fail, leaders with authority create conditions where others can lead too.</p><p>• The framework: protection, direction, and order. Marty Linsky's teaching offers a practical lens — authority's job is not to have the answer, but to protect risk-takers, provide direction, and establish order so others can do the work.</p><p>• When authority goes wrong, people fall through the cracks. Teresa's COVID vaccine story shows how rigid top-down thinking left 300 homebound seniors unvaccinated — and what it cost the people trying to do the right thing.</p><p>• Call to action: Build a culture that accepts risk. Members of the 30,000 should examine whether their organizations genuinely create space for risk-taking — because progress on closing the health gap demands it.</p><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 – Introduction &amp; Episode Overview</p><p>1:49 – Why Authority Isn't Enough</p><p>1:55 – Leadership vs. Authority: Fancy Titles Don't Mobilize People</p><p>3:16 – The 30,000's Role: Necessary but Insufficient to Climb the Health Rankings</p><p>4:22 – Guest Returns: Teresa Lovelady on Dual Citizenship (30,000 + ALICE)</p><p>5:55 – Making It Concrete: Teresa's Definition of Exercising Leadership</p><p>7:07 – COVID as a Case Study: Sharing Leadership Beyond Positions of Power</p><p>8:57 – What We Need From Authority: Certainty of Process &amp; Casting Vision</p><p>10:49 – Authority as Resource Broker: Clearing Paths, Connecting Resources, Setting Policy</p><p>12:44 – No Magic Wand: Wicked Problems, Limited Authority, and Working Together</p><p>14:42 – The Tension of Real Change: When Leadership Threatens Organizational Survival</p><p>15:42 – Where Authority Comes From: Expectations, Accountability, and Who Grants Power</p><p>15:56 – When People Expect "No Chaos": Why Leadership Disrupts</p><p>16:22 – The Penalty for Change: Trust, Access, and Job Risk</p><p>17:43 – Authority Isn't Enough: Avoiding Martyrs by Sharing the Work</p><p>18:50 – Using Authority Well: Direction, Resources, and a Safe Space to Lead</p><p>20:17 – What "Safe Space" Really Means: Permission to Make Mistakes</p><p>20:33 – Case Study: The Clinic Expansion "Swimming Pool" and Board Support</p><p>25:07 – Protection, Direction, Order: A Practical Framework for Authority</p><p>26:24 – How Authority Goes Wrong: The COVID Vaccine Homebound Gap</p><p>28:44 – Calls to Action &amp; What's Next in the Series</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><p><br></p><p>• Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) — <a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org">https://kansasleadershipcenter.org</a></p><p>• HealthCore Clinic (Teresa Lovelady's organization) — <a href="https://healthcoreclinic.org">https://healthcoreclinic.org</a></p><p>• America's Health Rankings — <a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org">https://www.americashealthrankings.org</a></p><p>• ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) population framework — <a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org">https://www.unitedforalice.org</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>It’s Risky</title>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Leadership isn't all kumbaya. The truth is, real leadership, the kind that moves the needle on something as daunting as closing the health gap, is risky. It requires disrupting the status quo, disappointing your own people, and absorbing the discomfort that comes with change. But as this episode makes clear, the cost of avoiding that risk is even higher.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, hosts Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang are joined by returning guest Kenny Wilk to unpack why exercising leadership is inherently risky, what it looks like in practice and why the reward on the other side is worth it.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>While many individuals placed in leadership roles believe they’re exercising leadership, it’s actually exceedingly rare. </li><li>Leadership is risky because it’s about disruption, and how it requires disappointing your own people at a rate they can absorb. </li><li>The risk-reward mismatch in health equity: the 30,000 Kansans with the most influence must take risk to benefit the people with the least, such as the ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed).</li><li>The remarkable turnaround of the University of Kansas Health System, from one of the worst-rated hospitals in the nation (below the 5th percentile in patient satisfaction) to consistently above the 90th percentile.</li><li>Kenny's personal framework for staying motivated to lead on issues that don't directly benefit him: gratitude, paying it forward and finding deep satisfaction in others' success.</li><li>The "Salad Week" story from the 2002 Kansas legislative budget crisis. A vivid example of leaders forcing uncomfortable conversations their own caucus didn't want to have.</li><li>The Kansas Capitol restoration decision: why Kenny and Senate counterpart Steve Morris refused to defund it even in a financial crisis and why it paid off.</li><li>Examples of risk in what Kansans experience every day, but could deliver a great payoff. </li><li>How embracing the opportunity to challenge one another with different ideas can introduce new ways of thinking. </li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:19 – Review, Preview and Big Picture </p><p>2:57 – Introducing Chapter 10: [Leadership] is Risky</p><p>5:33 – How Leadership Involves Disruption and Loss</p><p>7:50 – Leadership Requires Disappointing Your Own People</p><p>9:33 –  KHF Strategy as an Example</p><p>12:21 – Risk vs. Reward in Health Equity</p><p>14:31 – Kenny on the risks and transformation of the Kansas Health System</p><p>16:14 – From Worst to Best: Culture Shift</p><p>19:05 – Metrics and Momentum Wins</p><p>21:07 – The Risky Turnaround Story</p><p>23:08 – Pay It Forward Mindset</p><p>26:19 – Hallmark Promotion Risk</p><p>27:58 – Post-9/11 Budget Crisis</p><p>30:14 – Salad Week Disruption</p><p>32:55 – Capitol Restoration Resolve</p><p>34:50 – Everyday Risk Examples</p><p>37:10 – Acceptance and Pushback</p><p>39:01 – Make Leadership Ubiquitous</p><p>40:10 – Resources and Final Challenge</p><p>42:45 – Closing and Next Chapter</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) —<a href="https://www.kansasleadershipcenter.org/"> kansasleadershipcenter.org</a></li><li>Proud but Never Satisfied — book about the transformation of the University of Kansas Health System - <a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/proud-but-never-satisfied">https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/proud-but-never-satisfied</a> </li><li>University of Kansas Health System —<a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/"> kansashealthsystem.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Leadership isn't all kumbaya. The truth is, real leadership, the kind that moves the needle on something as daunting as closing the health gap, is risky. It requires disrupting the status quo, disappointing your own people, and absorbing the discomfort that comes with change. But as this episode makes clear, the cost of avoiding that risk is even higher.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, hosts Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang are joined by returning guest Kenny Wilk to unpack why exercising leadership is inherently risky, what it looks like in practice and why the reward on the other side is worth it.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>While many individuals placed in leadership roles believe they’re exercising leadership, it’s actually exceedingly rare. </li><li>Leadership is risky because it’s about disruption, and how it requires disappointing your own people at a rate they can absorb. </li><li>The risk-reward mismatch in health equity: the 30,000 Kansans with the most influence must take risk to benefit the people with the least, such as the ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed).</li><li>The remarkable turnaround of the University of Kansas Health System, from one of the worst-rated hospitals in the nation (below the 5th percentile in patient satisfaction) to consistently above the 90th percentile.</li><li>Kenny's personal framework for staying motivated to lead on issues that don't directly benefit him: gratitude, paying it forward and finding deep satisfaction in others' success.</li><li>The "Salad Week" story from the 2002 Kansas legislative budget crisis. A vivid example of leaders forcing uncomfortable conversations their own caucus didn't want to have.</li><li>The Kansas Capitol restoration decision: why Kenny and Senate counterpart Steve Morris refused to defund it even in a financial crisis and why it paid off.</li><li>Examples of risk in what Kansans experience every day, but could deliver a great payoff. </li><li>How embracing the opportunity to challenge one another with different ideas can introduce new ways of thinking. </li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:19 – Review, Preview and Big Picture </p><p>2:57 – Introducing Chapter 10: [Leadership] is Risky</p><p>5:33 – How Leadership Involves Disruption and Loss</p><p>7:50 – Leadership Requires Disappointing Your Own People</p><p>9:33 –  KHF Strategy as an Example</p><p>12:21 – Risk vs. Reward in Health Equity</p><p>14:31 – Kenny on the risks and transformation of the Kansas Health System</p><p>16:14 – From Worst to Best: Culture Shift</p><p>19:05 – Metrics and Momentum Wins</p><p>21:07 – The Risky Turnaround Story</p><p>23:08 – Pay It Forward Mindset</p><p>26:19 – Hallmark Promotion Risk</p><p>27:58 – Post-9/11 Budget Crisis</p><p>30:14 – Salad Week Disruption</p><p>32:55 – Capitol Restoration Resolve</p><p>34:50 – Everyday Risk Examples</p><p>37:10 – Acceptance and Pushback</p><p>39:01 – Make Leadership Ubiquitous</p><p>40:10 – Resources and Final Challenge</p><p>42:45 – Closing and Next Chapter</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) —<a href="https://www.kansasleadershipcenter.org/"> kansasleadershipcenter.org</a></li><li>Proud but Never Satisfied — book about the transformation of the University of Kansas Health System - <a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/proud-but-never-satisfied">https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/proud-but-never-satisfied</a> </li><li>University of Kansas Health System —<a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/"> kansashealthsystem.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Leadership isn't all kumbaya. The truth is, real leadership, the kind that moves the needle on something as daunting as closing the health gap, is risky. It requires disrupting the status quo, disappointing your own people, and absorbing the discomfort that comes with change. But as this episode makes clear, the cost of avoiding that risk is even higher.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, hosts Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang are joined by returning guest Kenny Wilk to unpack why exercising leadership is inherently risky, what it looks like in practice and why the reward on the other side is worth it.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>While many individuals placed in leadership roles believe they’re exercising leadership, it’s actually exceedingly rare. </li><li>Leadership is risky because it’s about disruption, and how it requires disappointing your own people at a rate they can absorb. </li><li>The risk-reward mismatch in health equity: the 30,000 Kansans with the most influence must take risk to benefit the people with the least, such as the ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed).</li><li>The remarkable turnaround of the University of Kansas Health System, from one of the worst-rated hospitals in the nation (below the 5th percentile in patient satisfaction) to consistently above the 90th percentile.</li><li>Kenny's personal framework for staying motivated to lead on issues that don't directly benefit him: gratitude, paying it forward and finding deep satisfaction in others' success.</li><li>The "Salad Week" story from the 2002 Kansas legislative budget crisis. A vivid example of leaders forcing uncomfortable conversations their own caucus didn't want to have.</li><li>The Kansas Capitol restoration decision: why Kenny and Senate counterpart Steve Morris refused to defund it even in a financial crisis and why it paid off.</li><li>Examples of risk in what Kansans experience every day, but could deliver a great payoff. </li><li>How embracing the opportunity to challenge one another with different ideas can introduce new ways of thinking. </li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:19 – Review, Preview and Big Picture </p><p>2:57 – Introducing Chapter 10: [Leadership] is Risky</p><p>5:33 – How Leadership Involves Disruption and Loss</p><p>7:50 – Leadership Requires Disappointing Your Own People</p><p>9:33 –  KHF Strategy as an Example</p><p>12:21 – Risk vs. Reward in Health Equity</p><p>14:31 – Kenny on the risks and transformation of the Kansas Health System</p><p>16:14 – From Worst to Best: Culture Shift</p><p>19:05 – Metrics and Momentum Wins</p><p>21:07 – The Risky Turnaround Story</p><p>23:08 – Pay It Forward Mindset</p><p>26:19 – Hallmark Promotion Risk</p><p>27:58 – Post-9/11 Budget Crisis</p><p>30:14 – Salad Week Disruption</p><p>32:55 – Capitol Restoration Resolve</p><p>34:50 – Everyday Risk Examples</p><p>37:10 – Acceptance and Pushback</p><p>39:01 – Make Leadership Ubiquitous</p><p>40:10 – Resources and Final Challenge</p><p>42:45 – Closing and Next Chapter</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) —<a href="https://www.kansasleadershipcenter.org/"> kansasleadershipcenter.org</a></li><li>Proud but Never Satisfied — book about the transformation of the University of Kansas Health System - <a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/proud-but-never-satisfied">https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/proud-but-never-satisfied</a> </li><li>University of Kansas Health System —<a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/"> kansashealthsystem.com</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Health, wellness, thriving, community, Kansas, healthcare, leadership</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>It Requires Loss</title>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s no secret that to solve the Health Gap in Kansas, we need those in authority to stop thinking of this as a health challenge and start thinking of it as a leadership challenge that requires a lot of change.<br></p><p>We know that what people often fear most about change is losing something that matters to them. Understanding that distinction is the key that unlocks real progress. </p><p><br></p><p>In this chapter of Leading Health, Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang dig into one of the most important and most overlooked concepts in leadership: the relationship between change and loss. Joined again by Johnathan Sublet, founder of SENT, Inc. in Topeka, they explore what it truly takes to help communities let go of what is to make room for what could be. Kansas has climbed to #27 in the health rankings — three consecutive years of improvement for the first time in 35 years. Getting to #1 will require leaders who can name the losses, speak to them honestly and create space for others to do the same.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>People don't fear change — they fear loss. Reframing resistance as data, not opposition, shifts the locus of responsibility back to the leader.</li><li>When someone pushes back on your idea, that's information. It means they perceive a loss you haven't yet addressed.</li><li>Speaking to loss is powerful. So is letting loss speak — inviting others to voice what's hard creates trust and energizes people toward change.</li><li>Johnathan Sublet shares five universal fears (death, being an outsider, the future, chaos and insignificance) and the five corresponding needs leaders must address to reduce anxiety and improve performance.</li><li>The story of Topeka's first net-zero home and a significant tree to a grieving family. Illustrating what it looks like to speak to loss in a deeply human way.</li><li>Technical experts (engineers, health professionals, administrators) face a particular challenge: their expertise can lead them to double down on logic when empathy is what's needed.</li><li>The Moses framework: leadership requires both systems-thinking and shepherding, and most leaders are naturally strong in only one.</li><li>Closing the urban-rural divide in Kansas health requires people to lose their attachment to the idea that their challenge is uniquely theirs.</li><li>Prioritizing health means deprioritizing something else, and that's a real loss for the people who care about those other things.</li><li>Think 401k, not day trading: small, consistent, compounding investments in a shared strategy, not swinging for the miracle, is how Kansas gets to #1.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:47 — Introduction: Chapter 9 — It's a Leadership Challenge Because It Requires Loss</p><p>4:00 — People Don't Fear Change — They Fear Loss</p><p>5:03 — Resistance as Data: What Pushback Is Really Telling You</p><p>7:25 — Speaking to Loss vs. Letting Loss Speak</p><p>10:01 — Guest Introduction: Johnathan Sublet, SENT</p><p>12:38 — The Five Universal Fears and Five Universal Needs</p><p>15:19 — Real-World Loss: Topeka's First Net Zero Home and the Tree</p><p>18:17 — The Moses Framework: Systems Thinking Meets Shepherding</p><p>27:27 — Letting Go of Your Preferred Strategy: The K-State Transdisciplinary Housing Team</p><p>32:57 — Six Sigma and Prioritizing for Impact: The Sent Network Approach</p><p>36:07 — Takeaways: Acknowledging Loss to Make Progress</p><p>37:24 — 401k vs. Day Trading: A Mindset for Long-Term Health Leadership</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org/">America's Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://senttopeka.com/">SENT</a> — A Topeka-based nonprofit that focuses on Community Health and Wellness, Education and Workforce Development and Housing and Revitalization. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s no secret that to solve the Health Gap in Kansas, we need those in authority to stop thinking of this as a health challenge and start thinking of it as a leadership challenge that requires a lot of change.<br></p><p>We know that what people often fear most about change is losing something that matters to them. Understanding that distinction is the key that unlocks real progress. </p><p><br></p><p>In this chapter of Leading Health, Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang dig into one of the most important and most overlooked concepts in leadership: the relationship between change and loss. Joined again by Johnathan Sublet, founder of SENT, Inc. in Topeka, they explore what it truly takes to help communities let go of what is to make room for what could be. Kansas has climbed to #27 in the health rankings — three consecutive years of improvement for the first time in 35 years. Getting to #1 will require leaders who can name the losses, speak to them honestly and create space for others to do the same.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>People don't fear change — they fear loss. Reframing resistance as data, not opposition, shifts the locus of responsibility back to the leader.</li><li>When someone pushes back on your idea, that's information. It means they perceive a loss you haven't yet addressed.</li><li>Speaking to loss is powerful. So is letting loss speak — inviting others to voice what's hard creates trust and energizes people toward change.</li><li>Johnathan Sublet shares five universal fears (death, being an outsider, the future, chaos and insignificance) and the five corresponding needs leaders must address to reduce anxiety and improve performance.</li><li>The story of Topeka's first net-zero home and a significant tree to a grieving family. Illustrating what it looks like to speak to loss in a deeply human way.</li><li>Technical experts (engineers, health professionals, administrators) face a particular challenge: their expertise can lead them to double down on logic when empathy is what's needed.</li><li>The Moses framework: leadership requires both systems-thinking and shepherding, and most leaders are naturally strong in only one.</li><li>Closing the urban-rural divide in Kansas health requires people to lose their attachment to the idea that their challenge is uniquely theirs.</li><li>Prioritizing health means deprioritizing something else, and that's a real loss for the people who care about those other things.</li><li>Think 401k, not day trading: small, consistent, compounding investments in a shared strategy, not swinging for the miracle, is how Kansas gets to #1.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:47 — Introduction: Chapter 9 — It's a Leadership Challenge Because It Requires Loss</p><p>4:00 — People Don't Fear Change — They Fear Loss</p><p>5:03 — Resistance as Data: What Pushback Is Really Telling You</p><p>7:25 — Speaking to Loss vs. Letting Loss Speak</p><p>10:01 — Guest Introduction: Johnathan Sublet, SENT</p><p>12:38 — The Five Universal Fears and Five Universal Needs</p><p>15:19 — Real-World Loss: Topeka's First Net Zero Home and the Tree</p><p>18:17 — The Moses Framework: Systems Thinking Meets Shepherding</p><p>27:27 — Letting Go of Your Preferred Strategy: The K-State Transdisciplinary Housing Team</p><p>32:57 — Six Sigma and Prioritizing for Impact: The Sent Network Approach</p><p>36:07 — Takeaways: Acknowledging Loss to Make Progress</p><p>37:24 — 401k vs. Day Trading: A Mindset for Long-Term Health Leadership</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org/">America's Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://senttopeka.com/">SENT</a> — A Topeka-based nonprofit that focuses on Community Health and Wellness, Education and Workforce Development and Housing and Revitalization. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s no secret that to solve the Health Gap in Kansas, we need those in authority to stop thinking of this as a health challenge and start thinking of it as a leadership challenge that requires a lot of change.<br></p><p>We know that what people often fear most about change is losing something that matters to them. Understanding that distinction is the key that unlocks real progress. </p><p><br></p><p>In this chapter of Leading Health, Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang dig into one of the most important and most overlooked concepts in leadership: the relationship between change and loss. Joined again by Johnathan Sublet, founder of SENT, Inc. in Topeka, they explore what it truly takes to help communities let go of what is to make room for what could be. Kansas has climbed to #27 in the health rankings — three consecutive years of improvement for the first time in 35 years. Getting to #1 will require leaders who can name the losses, speak to them honestly and create space for others to do the same.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>People don't fear change — they fear loss. Reframing resistance as data, not opposition, shifts the locus of responsibility back to the leader.</li><li>When someone pushes back on your idea, that's information. It means they perceive a loss you haven't yet addressed.</li><li>Speaking to loss is powerful. So is letting loss speak — inviting others to voice what's hard creates trust and energizes people toward change.</li><li>Johnathan Sublet shares five universal fears (death, being an outsider, the future, chaos and insignificance) and the five corresponding needs leaders must address to reduce anxiety and improve performance.</li><li>The story of Topeka's first net-zero home and a significant tree to a grieving family. Illustrating what it looks like to speak to loss in a deeply human way.</li><li>Technical experts (engineers, health professionals, administrators) face a particular challenge: their expertise can lead them to double down on logic when empathy is what's needed.</li><li>The Moses framework: leadership requires both systems-thinking and shepherding, and most leaders are naturally strong in only one.</li><li>Closing the urban-rural divide in Kansas health requires people to lose their attachment to the idea that their challenge is uniquely theirs.</li><li>Prioritizing health means deprioritizing something else, and that's a real loss for the people who care about those other things.</li><li>Think 401k, not day trading: small, consistent, compounding investments in a shared strategy, not swinging for the miracle, is how Kansas gets to #1.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:47 — Introduction: Chapter 9 — It's a Leadership Challenge Because It Requires Loss</p><p>4:00 — People Don't Fear Change — They Fear Loss</p><p>5:03 — Resistance as Data: What Pushback Is Really Telling You</p><p>7:25 — Speaking to Loss vs. Letting Loss Speak</p><p>10:01 — Guest Introduction: Johnathan Sublet, SENT</p><p>12:38 — The Five Universal Fears and Five Universal Needs</p><p>15:19 — Real-World Loss: Topeka's First Net Zero Home and the Tree</p><p>18:17 — The Moses Framework: Systems Thinking Meets Shepherding</p><p>27:27 — Letting Go of Your Preferred Strategy: The K-State Transdisciplinary Housing Team</p><p>32:57 — Six Sigma and Prioritizing for Impact: The Sent Network Approach</p><p>36:07 — Takeaways: Acknowledging Loss to Make Progress</p><p>37:24 — 401k vs. Day Trading: A Mindset for Long-Term Health Leadership</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org/">America's Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://senttopeka.com/">SENT</a> — A Topeka-based nonprofit that focuses on Community Health and Wellness, Education and Workforce Development and Housing and Revitalization. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Health, wellness, thriving, community, Kansas, healthcare, leadership</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Our Existing Assumptions Fail Us</title>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest barrier to better health in your community isn't a lack of resources, but a set of assumptions you didn't even know you were making?</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation, co-hosts Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang are joined by returning guest Kenny Wilk of the University of Kansas Health System. Together, they unpack how hidden assumptions — about who should be involved, what needs to be done, and how fast progress can happen — quietly shape how people in authority think and act. Wilk shares candid stories from his time in the Kansas Legislature and offers a fresh lens on exercising leadership. This conversation will challenge you to surface the assumptions driving your own work before they become "premeditated resentments."</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><ul><li>The three most common assumptions the 30,000 make when tackling complex health challenges, and why each one can derail progress.</li><li>The critical difference between adaptive and technical challenges. </li><li>Kenny Wilk's hard-won insight from the Kansas Legislature: don't ask people to change their minds; give them new information so they can make a new decision.</li><li>How sharing information to ‘slow things down’ can help a group go farther, together. </li><li>The "sidewalk story" is a simple metaphor that reframes how we see ‘work’ being done. </li><li>The danger of bringing people together only to present a baked solution, and what to do instead.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:47 —Leading Health Review, Preview and Big Picture. <br>3:02 — Chapter Eight insight: "Closing the Health Gap Is a Leadership Challenge Because Our Existing Assumptions Fail Us"<br>4:55 — The three common assumptions the 30,000 make<br>6:28 — The quick fix trap<br>8:37 — Technical vs. adaptive: a broken bone example<br>11:14 — Kenny Wilk joins the conversation<br>12:18 — The water debate: a lesson from Kenny's first year in the legislature<br>14:52 — Defining "assumption" — and why we're all starting from different places<br>15:56 — You have to slow down to go far<br>16:22 — Getting up on the balcony to examine assumptions<br>17:52 — New decisions, not mind changes<br>19:13 — How authority can create space for assumption-surfacing<br>21:05 — Why leaders jump straight to solutions<br>22:59 — From kitchen table to campaign trail to governing — three different phases<br>24:27 — Technical vs. adaptive challenges in practice<br>27:13 — What authorities must do differently on adaptive challenges<br>30:46 — The sidewalk story: seeing the invisible work of adaptive leadership<br>33:50 — Takeaways and preview of the next episode</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.kdheks.gov/">Kansas Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/">University of Kansas Health System</a></li><li><a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center (KLC)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest barrier to better health in your community isn't a lack of resources, but a set of assumptions you didn't even know you were making?</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation, co-hosts Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang are joined by returning guest Kenny Wilk of the University of Kansas Health System. Together, they unpack how hidden assumptions — about who should be involved, what needs to be done, and how fast progress can happen — quietly shape how people in authority think and act. Wilk shares candid stories from his time in the Kansas Legislature and offers a fresh lens on exercising leadership. This conversation will challenge you to surface the assumptions driving your own work before they become "premeditated resentments."</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><ul><li>The three most common assumptions the 30,000 make when tackling complex health challenges, and why each one can derail progress.</li><li>The critical difference between adaptive and technical challenges. </li><li>Kenny Wilk's hard-won insight from the Kansas Legislature: don't ask people to change their minds; give them new information so they can make a new decision.</li><li>How sharing information to ‘slow things down’ can help a group go farther, together. </li><li>The "sidewalk story" is a simple metaphor that reframes how we see ‘work’ being done. </li><li>The danger of bringing people together only to present a baked solution, and what to do instead.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:47 —Leading Health Review, Preview and Big Picture. <br>3:02 — Chapter Eight insight: "Closing the Health Gap Is a Leadership Challenge Because Our Existing Assumptions Fail Us"<br>4:55 — The three common assumptions the 30,000 make<br>6:28 — The quick fix trap<br>8:37 — Technical vs. adaptive: a broken bone example<br>11:14 — Kenny Wilk joins the conversation<br>12:18 — The water debate: a lesson from Kenny's first year in the legislature<br>14:52 — Defining "assumption" — and why we're all starting from different places<br>15:56 — You have to slow down to go far<br>16:22 — Getting up on the balcony to examine assumptions<br>17:52 — New decisions, not mind changes<br>19:13 — How authority can create space for assumption-surfacing<br>21:05 — Why leaders jump straight to solutions<br>22:59 — From kitchen table to campaign trail to governing — three different phases<br>24:27 — Technical vs. adaptive challenges in practice<br>27:13 — What authorities must do differently on adaptive challenges<br>30:46 — The sidewalk story: seeing the invisible work of adaptive leadership<br>33:50 — Takeaways and preview of the next episode</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.kdheks.gov/">Kansas Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/">University of Kansas Health System</a></li><li><a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center (KLC)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest barrier to better health in your community isn't a lack of resources, but a set of assumptions you didn't even know you were making?</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation, co-hosts Ed O'Malley and Susan Kang are joined by returning guest Kenny Wilk of the University of Kansas Health System. Together, they unpack how hidden assumptions — about who should be involved, what needs to be done, and how fast progress can happen — quietly shape how people in authority think and act. Wilk shares candid stories from his time in the Kansas Legislature and offers a fresh lens on exercising leadership. This conversation will challenge you to surface the assumptions driving your own work before they become "premeditated resentments."</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><ul><li>The three most common assumptions the 30,000 make when tackling complex health challenges, and why each one can derail progress.</li><li>The critical difference between adaptive and technical challenges. </li><li>Kenny Wilk's hard-won insight from the Kansas Legislature: don't ask people to change their minds; give them new information so they can make a new decision.</li><li>How sharing information to ‘slow things down’ can help a group go farther, together. </li><li>The "sidewalk story" is a simple metaphor that reframes how we see ‘work’ being done. </li><li>The danger of bringing people together only to present a baked solution, and what to do instead.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:47 —Leading Health Review, Preview and Big Picture. <br>3:02 — Chapter Eight insight: "Closing the Health Gap Is a Leadership Challenge Because Our Existing Assumptions Fail Us"<br>4:55 — The three common assumptions the 30,000 make<br>6:28 — The quick fix trap<br>8:37 — Technical vs. adaptive: a broken bone example<br>11:14 — Kenny Wilk joins the conversation<br>12:18 — The water debate: a lesson from Kenny's first year in the legislature<br>14:52 — Defining "assumption" — and why we're all starting from different places<br>15:56 — You have to slow down to go far<br>16:22 — Getting up on the balcony to examine assumptions<br>17:52 — New decisions, not mind changes<br>19:13 — How authority can create space for assumption-surfacing<br>21:05 — Why leaders jump straight to solutions<br>22:59 — From kitchen table to campaign trail to governing — three different phases<br>24:27 — Technical vs. adaptive challenges in practice<br>27:13 — What authorities must do differently on adaptive challenges<br>30:46 — The sidewalk story: seeing the invisible work of adaptive leadership<br>33:50 — Takeaways and preview of the next episode</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.kdheks.gov/">Kansas Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/">University of Kansas Health System</a></li><li><a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center (KLC)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>We Don’t Agree on What Caused the Problem, or the Solutions</title>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>We Don’t Agree on What Caused the Problem, or the Solutions</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest barrier to improving the health of an entire state isn't a lack of medicine, money, or expertise, but a failure of leadership? In Chapter 7 of Leading Health, we tackle one of the most provocative ideas in the book: Kansas can't climb the health rankings without first confronting the reality that we don't agree on what caused the problem or what the solution is. That makes it a leadership challenge before it's a health challenge.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode features a special guest — Ben Hutton, President and CEO of Hutton Company — who brings a private-sector perspective to a conversation typically dominated by the public sector. We explore what it means to lead with both humility and bold experimentation, and why getting people focused on the right problems might be more important than having all the right answers.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas has improved its health rankings for three consecutive years, a meaningful milestone that deserves more attention.</li><li>Leadership is an activity, not a position and authority and leadership are two distinct things.</li><li>The role of those in authority isn't to proclaim solutions; it's to center the problem and create alignment.</li><li>Every person in the "30,000" has a part of the mess — defining your part is often the most actionable first step.</li><li>Goals and strategies are not the same; confusing them is one of the most common traps when tackling adaptive challenges (Medicaid expansion is a strategy; ensuring Kansans have adequate health insurance is a goal).</li><li>The Hutton Company implemented the Dream Manager program — helping employees name and pursue personal dreams, from climbing Machu Picchu to buying a first home.</li><li>Discuss why businesses need to think about both  Capital H health (everything we need to thrive) vs. little h health (healthcare).</li><li>The "$50,000 experiment" framework: big enough to matter if it works, small enough to survive if it doesn't.</li><li>Third-grade literacy as a leading indicator: solving upstream problems prevents a cascade of downstream challenges.</li><li>Two people — and two ideas — can both be right at the same time. The tragedy of our era is that we've shifted from advocating for our ideas to advocating against our opponents' ideas.</li><li>Purpose-driven businesses that invest in capital H health tend to be more profitable in traditional measures too; the data bears this out.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 — Introduction &amp; Chapter 7 Overview</p><p>4:49 — Leadership vs. Authority: Lessons from COVID</p><p>11:51 — Introducing Ben Hutton</p><p>13:27 — Capital H vs. Little H Health in the Workplace</p><p>15:24 — The Dream Manager Program</p><p>19:18 — Finite vs. Infinite Games &amp; the Case for Experimentation</p><p>25:23 — Disrupting Entrenched Narratives</p><p>35:46 — Goals vs. Strategies: How to Create Alignment</p><p>37:09 — Closing Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.dreammanger.com/">The Dream Manager</a> by Matthew Kelly</li><li><a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/the-infinite-game/">The Infinite Game</a> by Simon Sinek</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs">Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs</a></li><li><a href="https://huttonbuilds.com/">Hutton</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest barrier to improving the health of an entire state isn't a lack of medicine, money, or expertise, but a failure of leadership? In Chapter 7 of Leading Health, we tackle one of the most provocative ideas in the book: Kansas can't climb the health rankings without first confronting the reality that we don't agree on what caused the problem or what the solution is. That makes it a leadership challenge before it's a health challenge.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode features a special guest — Ben Hutton, President and CEO of Hutton Company — who brings a private-sector perspective to a conversation typically dominated by the public sector. We explore what it means to lead with both humility and bold experimentation, and why getting people focused on the right problems might be more important than having all the right answers.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas has improved its health rankings for three consecutive years, a meaningful milestone that deserves more attention.</li><li>Leadership is an activity, not a position and authority and leadership are two distinct things.</li><li>The role of those in authority isn't to proclaim solutions; it's to center the problem and create alignment.</li><li>Every person in the "30,000" has a part of the mess — defining your part is often the most actionable first step.</li><li>Goals and strategies are not the same; confusing them is one of the most common traps when tackling adaptive challenges (Medicaid expansion is a strategy; ensuring Kansans have adequate health insurance is a goal).</li><li>The Hutton Company implemented the Dream Manager program — helping employees name and pursue personal dreams, from climbing Machu Picchu to buying a first home.</li><li>Discuss why businesses need to think about both  Capital H health (everything we need to thrive) vs. little h health (healthcare).</li><li>The "$50,000 experiment" framework: big enough to matter if it works, small enough to survive if it doesn't.</li><li>Third-grade literacy as a leading indicator: solving upstream problems prevents a cascade of downstream challenges.</li><li>Two people — and two ideas — can both be right at the same time. The tragedy of our era is that we've shifted from advocating for our ideas to advocating against our opponents' ideas.</li><li>Purpose-driven businesses that invest in capital H health tend to be more profitable in traditional measures too; the data bears this out.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 — Introduction &amp; Chapter 7 Overview</p><p>4:49 — Leadership vs. Authority: Lessons from COVID</p><p>11:51 — Introducing Ben Hutton</p><p>13:27 — Capital H vs. Little H Health in the Workplace</p><p>15:24 — The Dream Manager Program</p><p>19:18 — Finite vs. Infinite Games &amp; the Case for Experimentation</p><p>25:23 — Disrupting Entrenched Narratives</p><p>35:46 — Goals vs. Strategies: How to Create Alignment</p><p>37:09 — Closing Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.dreammanger.com/">The Dream Manager</a> by Matthew Kelly</li><li><a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/the-infinite-game/">The Infinite Game</a> by Simon Sinek</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs">Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs</a></li><li><a href="https://huttonbuilds.com/">Hutton</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest barrier to improving the health of an entire state isn't a lack of medicine, money, or expertise, but a failure of leadership? In Chapter 7 of Leading Health, we tackle one of the most provocative ideas in the book: Kansas can't climb the health rankings without first confronting the reality that we don't agree on what caused the problem or what the solution is. That makes it a leadership challenge before it's a health challenge.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode features a special guest — Ben Hutton, President and CEO of Hutton Company — who brings a private-sector perspective to a conversation typically dominated by the public sector. We explore what it means to lead with both humility and bold experimentation, and why getting people focused on the right problems might be more important than having all the right answers.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas has improved its health rankings for three consecutive years, a meaningful milestone that deserves more attention.</li><li>Leadership is an activity, not a position and authority and leadership are two distinct things.</li><li>The role of those in authority isn't to proclaim solutions; it's to center the problem and create alignment.</li><li>Every person in the "30,000" has a part of the mess — defining your part is often the most actionable first step.</li><li>Goals and strategies are not the same; confusing them is one of the most common traps when tackling adaptive challenges (Medicaid expansion is a strategy; ensuring Kansans have adequate health insurance is a goal).</li><li>The Hutton Company implemented the Dream Manager program — helping employees name and pursue personal dreams, from climbing Machu Picchu to buying a first home.</li><li>Discuss why businesses need to think about both  Capital H health (everything we need to thrive) vs. little h health (healthcare).</li><li>The "$50,000 experiment" framework: big enough to matter if it works, small enough to survive if it doesn't.</li><li>Third-grade literacy as a leading indicator: solving upstream problems prevents a cascade of downstream challenges.</li><li>Two people — and two ideas — can both be right at the same time. The tragedy of our era is that we've shifted from advocating for our ideas to advocating against our opponents' ideas.</li><li>Purpose-driven businesses that invest in capital H health tend to be more profitable in traditional measures too; the data bears this out.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 — Introduction &amp; Chapter 7 Overview</p><p>4:49 — Leadership vs. Authority: Lessons from COVID</p><p>11:51 — Introducing Ben Hutton</p><p>13:27 — Capital H vs. Little H Health in the Workplace</p><p>15:24 — The Dream Manager Program</p><p>19:18 — Finite vs. Infinite Games &amp; the Case for Experimentation</p><p>25:23 — Disrupting Entrenched Narratives</p><p>35:46 — Goals vs. Strategies: How to Create Alignment</p><p>37:09 — Closing Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.dreammanger.com/">The Dream Manager</a> by Matthew Kelly</li><li><a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/the-infinite-game/">The Infinite Game</a> by Simon Sinek</li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs">Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs</a></li><li><a href="https://huttonbuilds.com/">Hutton</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <title>(It’s) Not a Health Challenge</title>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We often think of leadership as a title, but really, it’s an action. While some challenges just need a solid plan, solving the Kansas Health Gap requires a specific kind of leadership that goes beyond authority. </p><p><br></p><p>In Episode 6 of Leading Health, Ed O’Malley and Susan Kang unpack the three reasons why this gap is so hard to close—from the lack of urgency to the inevitable clash of values. Joined by Johnathan Sublet, Executive Director of SENT, they dive further to highlight what it really looks like to lead from a calling, punch deeper at daunting problems and build systems that free you to pursue the work that keeps you up at night. </p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><ul><li>Leadership is an activity, not a noun. </li><li>Separating leadership from authority invites far more people into the work.</li><li>The 30,000 Kansans have a specific and essential leadership role to play in improving capital-H Health, but having authority doesn't always mean you're exercising leadership. </li><li>Johnathan Sublet's journey from chemical engineer to nonprofit leader illustrates what it looks like to lead from a calling rather than just manage a role. </li><li>Burnout isn't caused by a heavy schedule; it's caused by an unsettled relationship. between daily tasks and the original passion that drove you to the work. </li><li>The "punch deeper" metaphor: too many nonprofits throw shallow punches at problems; real leadership means aiming past the face and committing to closing gaps entirely.</li><li>Competing values are not problems to solve, they're tensions to manage; if you're not getting pushback from all sides, you're probably not doing anything significant.</li><li>"Leading is disappointing people at a rate they can tolerate," and remembering what got you into the work is what keeps the calling alive.</li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 — Chapter 6 Introduction </p><p>1:56 — Why Health Is a Leadership Challenge</p><p>2:32 — Three Factors of Leadership Explained</p><p>6:09 — Authority Versus Leadership</p><p>8:02 — Having Authority Does Not Mean Exercising Leadership</p><p>9:57 — Meet Johnathan Sublet of SENT</p><p>10:38 — Leading Versus Managing</p><p>12:08 — Calling and Community Work</p><p>15:29 — Burnout and Big Swings</p><p>17:43 — Systems Free Your Focus</p><p>18:48 — Leadership Challenge Mindset</p><p>19:44 — Share the Model Widely</p><p>20:17 — Greek Not Roman Legacy</p><p>21:57 — Housing Change Snowball</p><p>23:34 — ALICE and the Missing Middle</p><p>26:52 — Competing Values in Practice</p><p>30:37 — Keep the Calling Alive</p><p>33:08 — Key Takeaways </p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><ul><li><a href="https://senttopeka.com/">SENT</a> — A Topeka-based nonprofit that focuses on Community Health and Wellness, Education and Workforce Development and Housing and Revitalization. </li><li><a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center</a> - Learn how to exercise leadership and mobilize others for greater change. </li><li><a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org/">ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed)</a> — a United Way framework describing the working poor, referenced in the housing discussion</li></ul><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We often think of leadership as a title, but really, it’s an action. While some challenges just need a solid plan, solving the Kansas Health Gap requires a specific kind of leadership that goes beyond authority. </p><p><br></p><p>In Episode 6 of Leading Health, Ed O’Malley and Susan Kang unpack the three reasons why this gap is so hard to close—from the lack of urgency to the inevitable clash of values. Joined by Johnathan Sublet, Executive Director of SENT, they dive further to highlight what it really looks like to lead from a calling, punch deeper at daunting problems and build systems that free you to pursue the work that keeps you up at night. </p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><ul><li>Leadership is an activity, not a noun. </li><li>Separating leadership from authority invites far more people into the work.</li><li>The 30,000 Kansans have a specific and essential leadership role to play in improving capital-H Health, but having authority doesn't always mean you're exercising leadership. </li><li>Johnathan Sublet's journey from chemical engineer to nonprofit leader illustrates what it looks like to lead from a calling rather than just manage a role. </li><li>Burnout isn't caused by a heavy schedule; it's caused by an unsettled relationship. between daily tasks and the original passion that drove you to the work. </li><li>The "punch deeper" metaphor: too many nonprofits throw shallow punches at problems; real leadership means aiming past the face and committing to closing gaps entirely.</li><li>Competing values are not problems to solve, they're tensions to manage; if you're not getting pushback from all sides, you're probably not doing anything significant.</li><li>"Leading is disappointing people at a rate they can tolerate," and remembering what got you into the work is what keeps the calling alive.</li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 — Chapter 6 Introduction </p><p>1:56 — Why Health Is a Leadership Challenge</p><p>2:32 — Three Factors of Leadership Explained</p><p>6:09 — Authority Versus Leadership</p><p>8:02 — Having Authority Does Not Mean Exercising Leadership</p><p>9:57 — Meet Johnathan Sublet of SENT</p><p>10:38 — Leading Versus Managing</p><p>12:08 — Calling and Community Work</p><p>15:29 — Burnout and Big Swings</p><p>17:43 — Systems Free Your Focus</p><p>18:48 — Leadership Challenge Mindset</p><p>19:44 — Share the Model Widely</p><p>20:17 — Greek Not Roman Legacy</p><p>21:57 — Housing Change Snowball</p><p>23:34 — ALICE and the Missing Middle</p><p>26:52 — Competing Values in Practice</p><p>30:37 — Keep the Calling Alive</p><p>33:08 — Key Takeaways </p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><ul><li><a href="https://senttopeka.com/">SENT</a> — A Topeka-based nonprofit that focuses on Community Health and Wellness, Education and Workforce Development and Housing and Revitalization. </li><li><a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center</a> - Learn how to exercise leadership and mobilize others for greater change. </li><li><a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org/">ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed)</a> — a United Way framework describing the working poor, referenced in the housing discussion</li></ul><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We often think of leadership as a title, but really, it’s an action. While some challenges just need a solid plan, solving the Kansas Health Gap requires a specific kind of leadership that goes beyond authority. </p><p><br></p><p>In Episode 6 of Leading Health, Ed O’Malley and Susan Kang unpack the three reasons why this gap is so hard to close—from the lack of urgency to the inevitable clash of values. Joined by Johnathan Sublet, Executive Director of SENT, they dive further to highlight what it really looks like to lead from a calling, punch deeper at daunting problems and build systems that free you to pursue the work that keeps you up at night. </p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><ul><li>Leadership is an activity, not a noun. </li><li>Separating leadership from authority invites far more people into the work.</li><li>The 30,000 Kansans have a specific and essential leadership role to play in improving capital-H Health, but having authority doesn't always mean you're exercising leadership. </li><li>Johnathan Sublet's journey from chemical engineer to nonprofit leader illustrates what it looks like to lead from a calling rather than just manage a role. </li><li>Burnout isn't caused by a heavy schedule; it's caused by an unsettled relationship. between daily tasks and the original passion that drove you to the work. </li><li>The "punch deeper" metaphor: too many nonprofits throw shallow punches at problems; real leadership means aiming past the face and committing to closing gaps entirely.</li><li>Competing values are not problems to solve, they're tensions to manage; if you're not getting pushback from all sides, you're probably not doing anything significant.</li><li>"Leading is disappointing people at a rate they can tolerate," and remembering what got you into the work is what keeps the calling alive.</li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 — Chapter 6 Introduction </p><p>1:56 — Why Health Is a Leadership Challenge</p><p>2:32 — Three Factors of Leadership Explained</p><p>6:09 — Authority Versus Leadership</p><p>8:02 — Having Authority Does Not Mean Exercising Leadership</p><p>9:57 — Meet Johnathan Sublet of SENT</p><p>10:38 — Leading Versus Managing</p><p>12:08 — Calling and Community Work</p><p>15:29 — Burnout and Big Swings</p><p>17:43 — Systems Free Your Focus</p><p>18:48 — Leadership Challenge Mindset</p><p>19:44 — Share the Model Widely</p><p>20:17 — Greek Not Roman Legacy</p><p>21:57 — Housing Change Snowball</p><p>23:34 — ALICE and the Missing Middle</p><p>26:52 — Competing Values in Practice</p><p>30:37 — Keep the Calling Alive</p><p>33:08 — Key Takeaways </p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><ul><li><a href="https://senttopeka.com/">SENT</a> — A Topeka-based nonprofit that focuses on Community Health and Wellness, Education and Workforce Development and Housing and Revitalization. </li><li><a href="https://kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center</a> - Learn how to exercise leadership and mobilize others for greater change. </li><li><a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org/">ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed)</a> — a United Way framework describing the working poor, referenced in the housing discussion</li></ul><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Health, wellness, thriving, community, Kansas, healthcare, leadership</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bridge episode between Parts 1 and 2 of the Leading Health book, we pause to recap where we've been and preview what's coming. We revisit the core arguments from our first five episodes — from capital H Health versus lower h health, to the 30,000 Kansans who hold civic authority and why they matter — before revealing the central thesis of Part 2: Kansas's health gap is not a health challenge. It's a leadership challenge. And until we frame it that way, we'll keep arriving at the same dead ends.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas fell from #8 to #31 in America's Health Rankings — and treating this as a health problem is exactly why progress has stalled</li><li>The 30,000 Kansans in roles of civic authority — elected officials, pastors, school principals, nonprofit executives, and community-minded CEOs — are the key to change</li><li>America's Health Rankings serves as the "North Star" for measuring progress toward Kansas becoming the #1 healthiest state in the nation</li><li>Part 1 describes the symptoms, Part 2 delivers the diagnosis, and Part 3 will outline the prescription</li><li>Passionate people working for change are often their own biggest enemy — the real challenge is frequently different than it first appears</li><li>Improving population health is an adaptive challenge, not a technical one — meaning there are no easy answers, and it involves risk, loss, and ongoing exploration</li><li>Leadership is rare, and it's an activity, not a position — we prefer to talk about people exercising leadership rather than simply holding the title</li><li>Even if every healthcare expert, public health professional, nutritionist, and researcher does their part, the health gap will remain — because it is first and foremost a leadership challenge</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:28 – Recap of the First Five Episodes</p><p>2:13 – Capital H vs. Lower h Health</p><p>2:29 – Meet the 30,000 Civic Leaders</p><p>2:57 – America's Health Rankings as Our North Star</p><p>3:13 – The Symptoms → Diagnosis → Prescription Framework</p><p>3:55 – Passionate People and Hidden Challenges</p><p>5:44 – It's Not a Health Problem — It's a Leadership Problem</p><p>6:38 – Adaptive Challenge and the Rarity of Real Leadership</p><p>8:59 – Why This Lens Changes Everything</p><p>9:31 – Experts Matter, But Leadership Must Lead</p><p>10:48 – Wrap-Up and Next Episode Preview</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bridge episode between Parts 1 and 2 of the Leading Health book, we pause to recap where we've been and preview what's coming. We revisit the core arguments from our first five episodes — from capital H Health versus lower h health, to the 30,000 Kansans who hold civic authority and why they matter — before revealing the central thesis of Part 2: Kansas's health gap is not a health challenge. It's a leadership challenge. And until we frame it that way, we'll keep arriving at the same dead ends.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas fell from #8 to #31 in America's Health Rankings — and treating this as a health problem is exactly why progress has stalled</li><li>The 30,000 Kansans in roles of civic authority — elected officials, pastors, school principals, nonprofit executives, and community-minded CEOs — are the key to change</li><li>America's Health Rankings serves as the "North Star" for measuring progress toward Kansas becoming the #1 healthiest state in the nation</li><li>Part 1 describes the symptoms, Part 2 delivers the diagnosis, and Part 3 will outline the prescription</li><li>Passionate people working for change are often their own biggest enemy — the real challenge is frequently different than it first appears</li><li>Improving population health is an adaptive challenge, not a technical one — meaning there are no easy answers, and it involves risk, loss, and ongoing exploration</li><li>Leadership is rare, and it's an activity, not a position — we prefer to talk about people exercising leadership rather than simply holding the title</li><li>Even if every healthcare expert, public health professional, nutritionist, and researcher does their part, the health gap will remain — because it is first and foremost a leadership challenge</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:28 – Recap of the First Five Episodes</p><p>2:13 – Capital H vs. Lower h Health</p><p>2:29 – Meet the 30,000 Civic Leaders</p><p>2:57 – America's Health Rankings as Our North Star</p><p>3:13 – The Symptoms → Diagnosis → Prescription Framework</p><p>3:55 – Passionate People and Hidden Challenges</p><p>5:44 – It's Not a Health Problem — It's a Leadership Problem</p><p>6:38 – Adaptive Challenge and the Rarity of Real Leadership</p><p>8:59 – Why This Lens Changes Everything</p><p>9:31 – Experts Matter, But Leadership Must Lead</p><p>10:48 – Wrap-Up and Next Episode Preview</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bridge episode between Parts 1 and 2 of the Leading Health book, we pause to recap where we've been and preview what's coming. We revisit the core arguments from our first five episodes — from capital H Health versus lower h health, to the 30,000 Kansans who hold civic authority and why they matter — before revealing the central thesis of Part 2: Kansas's health gap is not a health challenge. It's a leadership challenge. And until we frame it that way, we'll keep arriving at the same dead ends.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Kansas fell from #8 to #31 in America's Health Rankings — and treating this as a health problem is exactly why progress has stalled</li><li>The 30,000 Kansans in roles of civic authority — elected officials, pastors, school principals, nonprofit executives, and community-minded CEOs — are the key to change</li><li>America's Health Rankings serves as the "North Star" for measuring progress toward Kansas becoming the #1 healthiest state in the nation</li><li>Part 1 describes the symptoms, Part 2 delivers the diagnosis, and Part 3 will outline the prescription</li><li>Passionate people working for change are often their own biggest enemy — the real challenge is frequently different than it first appears</li><li>Improving population health is an adaptive challenge, not a technical one — meaning there are no easy answers, and it involves risk, loss, and ongoing exploration</li><li>Leadership is rare, and it's an activity, not a position — we prefer to talk about people exercising leadership rather than simply holding the title</li><li>Even if every healthcare expert, public health professional, nutritionist, and researcher does their part, the health gap will remain — because it is first and foremost a leadership challenge</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:28 – Recap of the First Five Episodes</p><p>2:13 – Capital H vs. Lower h Health</p><p>2:29 – Meet the 30,000 Civic Leaders</p><p>2:57 – America's Health Rankings as Our North Star</p><p>3:13 – The Symptoms → Diagnosis → Prescription Framework</p><p>3:55 – Passionate People and Hidden Challenges</p><p>5:44 – It's Not a Health Problem — It's a Leadership Problem</p><p>6:38 – Adaptive Challenge and the Rarity of Real Leadership</p><p>8:59 – Why This Lens Changes Everything</p><p>9:31 – Experts Matter, But Leadership Must Lead</p><p>10:48 – Wrap-Up and Next Episode Preview</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Kansas at #1</title>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What would it look like if Kansas became the healthiest state in the nation — and what would it take to get there?</p><p><br></p><p>In Chapter 5 of Leading Health, we cast a bold vision of what Kansas at #1 in America’s Health Rankings could mean for real people. It would look like fewer Kansans going hungry, more kids reading at grade level, and hundreds of thousands fewer people struggling with substance use, just to name a few. We're joined by Kenny Wilk, former Kansas legislator and member of the Kansas Board of Regents, and now Vice President of Governmental and Community Affairs at the University of Kansas Health System. Alongside Ed and Susan, he shares what it means to cast a vision bold enough to be risky, and why that's exactly what leadership requires.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>In 1991, Kansas was ranked #8 in America’s Health Rankings. Over the next 30 years, we’ve drastically slipped to our lowest at #31 and today, #27. Our goal is #1. </li><li>If Kansas matched New Hampshire (currently #1), 105,000 fewer Kansans would face food insecurity, 32,000 more kids would read at grade level by 4th grade, 173,000 more Kansans would exercise regularly, and 183,000 fewer Kansans would engage in non-medical drug use.</li><li>The distinction between capital H Health (everything that helps people thrive) and lowercase h health (healthcare) is central to understanding why this challenge requires more than hospitals and clinics.</li><li>Kenny Wilk draws on his experience leading the Kansas Economic Growth Act and the Bioscience Authority to show how bold, long-term visions can outlast the individuals who cast them.</li><li>Understanding that a vision is "imagining what you cannot see" — and being comfortable that casting a bold vision invites scrutiny. </li><li>How the Kansas Health Foundation’s research on the Economic Case for Health shows that Health is not only an outcome of a great economy, it’s a driver. </li><li>Progress should be celebrated — incremental wins keep people engaged and moving toward a long-term goal. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:25 – Kansas at Number One Vision</p><p>2:52 – Pragmatism Meets Idealism</p><p>3:31 – The Coins and the Climb</p><p>4:51 – What Kansans Told Us</p><p>8:04 – If Kansas Matched New Hampshire</p><p>11:21 – Up to the 30,000</p><p>11:53 – Meet Kenny Wilk</p><p>12:55 – Capital H vs. Small h Health</p><p>16:42 – Hospitals' Role in Thriving</p><p>18:41 – Casting a Risky Vision</p><p>21:31 – Players Change, Vision Stays</p><p>22:47 – Imagining the Unseen</p><p>23:50 – From Concern to Aspiration</p><p>24:32 – Listening Then Challenging</p><p>26:56 – Authority to Set Direction</p><p>28:51 – Scrutiny and Staying Steady</p><p>29:58 – Quiet Confidence and Decisions</p><p>32:01 – Kansas Number One Impact</p><p>34:51 – Health Drives the Economy</p><p>39:14 – Takeaways and Celebrate Wins</p><p>43:04 – Next Episode Leadership Challenge</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org/">America's Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://kansashealth.org/economic-case/">The Economic Case for Health Report </a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/">University of Kansas Health System</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What would it look like if Kansas became the healthiest state in the nation — and what would it take to get there?</p><p><br></p><p>In Chapter 5 of Leading Health, we cast a bold vision of what Kansas at #1 in America’s Health Rankings could mean for real people. It would look like fewer Kansans going hungry, more kids reading at grade level, and hundreds of thousands fewer people struggling with substance use, just to name a few. We're joined by Kenny Wilk, former Kansas legislator and member of the Kansas Board of Regents, and now Vice President of Governmental and Community Affairs at the University of Kansas Health System. Alongside Ed and Susan, he shares what it means to cast a vision bold enough to be risky, and why that's exactly what leadership requires.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>In 1991, Kansas was ranked #8 in America’s Health Rankings. Over the next 30 years, we’ve drastically slipped to our lowest at #31 and today, #27. Our goal is #1. </li><li>If Kansas matched New Hampshire (currently #1), 105,000 fewer Kansans would face food insecurity, 32,000 more kids would read at grade level by 4th grade, 173,000 more Kansans would exercise regularly, and 183,000 fewer Kansans would engage in non-medical drug use.</li><li>The distinction between capital H Health (everything that helps people thrive) and lowercase h health (healthcare) is central to understanding why this challenge requires more than hospitals and clinics.</li><li>Kenny Wilk draws on his experience leading the Kansas Economic Growth Act and the Bioscience Authority to show how bold, long-term visions can outlast the individuals who cast them.</li><li>Understanding that a vision is "imagining what you cannot see" — and being comfortable that casting a bold vision invites scrutiny. </li><li>How the Kansas Health Foundation’s research on the Economic Case for Health shows that Health is not only an outcome of a great economy, it’s a driver. </li><li>Progress should be celebrated — incremental wins keep people engaged and moving toward a long-term goal. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:25 – Kansas at Number One Vision</p><p>2:52 – Pragmatism Meets Idealism</p><p>3:31 – The Coins and the Climb</p><p>4:51 – What Kansans Told Us</p><p>8:04 – If Kansas Matched New Hampshire</p><p>11:21 – Up to the 30,000</p><p>11:53 – Meet Kenny Wilk</p><p>12:55 – Capital H vs. Small h Health</p><p>16:42 – Hospitals' Role in Thriving</p><p>18:41 – Casting a Risky Vision</p><p>21:31 – Players Change, Vision Stays</p><p>22:47 – Imagining the Unseen</p><p>23:50 – From Concern to Aspiration</p><p>24:32 – Listening Then Challenging</p><p>26:56 – Authority to Set Direction</p><p>28:51 – Scrutiny and Staying Steady</p><p>29:58 – Quiet Confidence and Decisions</p><p>32:01 – Kansas Number One Impact</p><p>34:51 – Health Drives the Economy</p><p>39:14 – Takeaways and Celebrate Wins</p><p>43:04 – Next Episode Leadership Challenge</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org/">America's Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://kansashealth.org/economic-case/">The Economic Case for Health Report </a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/">University of Kansas Health System</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What would it look like if Kansas became the healthiest state in the nation — and what would it take to get there?</p><p><br></p><p>In Chapter 5 of Leading Health, we cast a bold vision of what Kansas at #1 in America’s Health Rankings could mean for real people. It would look like fewer Kansans going hungry, more kids reading at grade level, and hundreds of thousands fewer people struggling with substance use, just to name a few. We're joined by Kenny Wilk, former Kansas legislator and member of the Kansas Board of Regents, and now Vice President of Governmental and Community Affairs at the University of Kansas Health System. Alongside Ed and Susan, he shares what it means to cast a vision bold enough to be risky, and why that's exactly what leadership requires.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><ul><li>In 1991, Kansas was ranked #8 in America’s Health Rankings. Over the next 30 years, we’ve drastically slipped to our lowest at #31 and today, #27. Our goal is #1. </li><li>If Kansas matched New Hampshire (currently #1), 105,000 fewer Kansans would face food insecurity, 32,000 more kids would read at grade level by 4th grade, 173,000 more Kansans would exercise regularly, and 183,000 fewer Kansans would engage in non-medical drug use.</li><li>The distinction between capital H Health (everything that helps people thrive) and lowercase h health (healthcare) is central to understanding why this challenge requires more than hospitals and clinics.</li><li>Kenny Wilk draws on his experience leading the Kansas Economic Growth Act and the Bioscience Authority to show how bold, long-term visions can outlast the individuals who cast them.</li><li>Understanding that a vision is "imagining what you cannot see" — and being comfortable that casting a bold vision invites scrutiny. </li><li>How the Kansas Health Foundation’s research on the Economic Case for Health shows that Health is not only an outcome of a great economy, it’s a driver. </li><li>Progress should be celebrated — incremental wins keep people engaged and moving toward a long-term goal. </li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>1:25 – Kansas at Number One Vision</p><p>2:52 – Pragmatism Meets Idealism</p><p>3:31 – The Coins and the Climb</p><p>4:51 – What Kansans Told Us</p><p>8:04 – If Kansas Matched New Hampshire</p><p>11:21 – Up to the 30,000</p><p>11:53 – Meet Kenny Wilk</p><p>12:55 – Capital H vs. Small h Health</p><p>16:42 – Hospitals' Role in Thriving</p><p>18:41 – Casting a Risky Vision</p><p>21:31 – Players Change, Vision Stays</p><p>22:47 – Imagining the Unseen</p><p>23:50 – From Concern to Aspiration</p><p>24:32 – Listening Then Challenging</p><p>26:56 – Authority to Set Direction</p><p>28:51 – Scrutiny and Staying Steady</p><p>29:58 – Quiet Confidence and Decisions</p><p>32:01 – Kansas Number One Impact</p><p>34:51 – Health Drives the Economy</p><p>39:14 – Takeaways and Celebrate Wins</p><p>43:04 – Next Episode Leadership Challenge</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.americashealthrankings.org/">America's Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://kansashealth.org/economic-case/">The Economic Case for Health Report </a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansashealthsystem.com/">University of Kansas Health System</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Health, wellness, thriving, community, Kansas, healthcare, leadership</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Kansas at 29th</title>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>4</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when our state ranks 29th in Health? More importantly, what does it take to change where we rank in America’s Health Rankings? This episode explores the uncomfortable truth behind Kansas's health rankings and challenges listeners to move beyond easy explanations. We examine why leadership must start with dissatisfaction, how collective action differs from individual effort, and what it means to aim for excellence rather than just catching up. Through real examples from Wyandotte County and Cowley County, we discover how data can spark transformation when communities refuse to look away from difficult realities.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Leadership always starts with dissatisfaction, not with comfort in the status quo.</li><li>Kansas's biggest challenges are both adaptive (complex, no easy solutions) and collective (requiring collaboration across sectors).</li><li>The "easy interpretation" of health data often explains problems away; the "tougher interpretation" faces them head-on.</li><li>Wyandotte County's ranking of 105th out of 105 became a catalyst for community transformation.</li><li>Aiming for "average" or "catching up" creates fundamentally different outcomes than striving for excellence.</li><li>Data walks and reimagining exercises can break down scarcity mindsets and build collective ownership.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>[0:00] Introduction and Episode Overview</p><p>[2:29] Chapter Four Focus</p><p>[3:19] Leadership Starts Dissatisfied</p><p>[5:27] Easy vs Tougher Takes</p><p>[7:36] Agency and Shared Responsibility</p><p>[9:10] Adaptive and Collective Challenges</p><p>[12:21] Why Collaboration Matters</p><p>[13:40] Meet Kari Bruffett</p><p>[15:17] Data Dismissed Then Faced</p><p>[16:07] Wyandotte County Wakeup Call</p><p>[17:44] Policy Barriers Behind Rankings</p><p>[19:26] Check Engine Light Lesson</p><p>[21:10] Mayor Confronts The Data</p><p>[22:02] Upstream Barriers And Action</p><p>[22:22] Authority And The 30000</p><p>[23:23] Why Kansas Settles For Average</p><p>[25:54] Chasing Excellence At KU Health</p><p>[29:51] Reimagining Beyond Constraints</p><p>[32:51] From Scarcity To Collective Leadership</p><p>[33:38] Cowley County Data Walk</p><p>[36:46] Adaptive Leadership Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://kansashealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/AHR_Kansas_Summary_2025.pdf">Kansas' Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.khi.org/">Kansas Health Institute (KHI)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bcbsks.com/blue-health-initiatives/pathways/pathways-to-a-healthy-kansas">Pathways to a Healthy Kansas Data Walk</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when our state ranks 29th in Health? More importantly, what does it take to change where we rank in America’s Health Rankings? This episode explores the uncomfortable truth behind Kansas's health rankings and challenges listeners to move beyond easy explanations. We examine why leadership must start with dissatisfaction, how collective action differs from individual effort, and what it means to aim for excellence rather than just catching up. Through real examples from Wyandotte County and Cowley County, we discover how data can spark transformation when communities refuse to look away from difficult realities.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Leadership always starts with dissatisfaction, not with comfort in the status quo.</li><li>Kansas's biggest challenges are both adaptive (complex, no easy solutions) and collective (requiring collaboration across sectors).</li><li>The "easy interpretation" of health data often explains problems away; the "tougher interpretation" faces them head-on.</li><li>Wyandotte County's ranking of 105th out of 105 became a catalyst for community transformation.</li><li>Aiming for "average" or "catching up" creates fundamentally different outcomes than striving for excellence.</li><li>Data walks and reimagining exercises can break down scarcity mindsets and build collective ownership.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>[0:00] Introduction and Episode Overview</p><p>[2:29] Chapter Four Focus</p><p>[3:19] Leadership Starts Dissatisfied</p><p>[5:27] Easy vs Tougher Takes</p><p>[7:36] Agency and Shared Responsibility</p><p>[9:10] Adaptive and Collective Challenges</p><p>[12:21] Why Collaboration Matters</p><p>[13:40] Meet Kari Bruffett</p><p>[15:17] Data Dismissed Then Faced</p><p>[16:07] Wyandotte County Wakeup Call</p><p>[17:44] Policy Barriers Behind Rankings</p><p>[19:26] Check Engine Light Lesson</p><p>[21:10] Mayor Confronts The Data</p><p>[22:02] Upstream Barriers And Action</p><p>[22:22] Authority And The 30000</p><p>[23:23] Why Kansas Settles For Average</p><p>[25:54] Chasing Excellence At KU Health</p><p>[29:51] Reimagining Beyond Constraints</p><p>[32:51] From Scarcity To Collective Leadership</p><p>[33:38] Cowley County Data Walk</p><p>[36:46] Adaptive Leadership Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://kansashealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/AHR_Kansas_Summary_2025.pdf">Kansas' Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.khi.org/">Kansas Health Institute (KHI)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bcbsks.com/blue-health-initiatives/pathways/pathways-to-a-healthy-kansas">Pathways to a Healthy Kansas Data Walk</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when our state ranks 29th in Health? More importantly, what does it take to change where we rank in America’s Health Rankings? This episode explores the uncomfortable truth behind Kansas's health rankings and challenges listeners to move beyond easy explanations. We examine why leadership must start with dissatisfaction, how collective action differs from individual effort, and what it means to aim for excellence rather than just catching up. Through real examples from Wyandotte County and Cowley County, we discover how data can spark transformation when communities refuse to look away from difficult realities.</p><p><br></p><p>HIGHLIGHTS</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Leadership always starts with dissatisfaction, not with comfort in the status quo.</li><li>Kansas's biggest challenges are both adaptive (complex, no easy solutions) and collective (requiring collaboration across sectors).</li><li>The "easy interpretation" of health data often explains problems away; the "tougher interpretation" faces them head-on.</li><li>Wyandotte County's ranking of 105th out of 105 became a catalyst for community transformation.</li><li>Aiming for "average" or "catching up" creates fundamentally different outcomes than striving for excellence.</li><li>Data walks and reimagining exercises can break down scarcity mindsets and build collective ownership.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><p><br></p><p>[0:00] Introduction and Episode Overview</p><p>[2:29] Chapter Four Focus</p><p>[3:19] Leadership Starts Dissatisfied</p><p>[5:27] Easy vs Tougher Takes</p><p>[7:36] Agency and Shared Responsibility</p><p>[9:10] Adaptive and Collective Challenges</p><p>[12:21] Why Collaboration Matters</p><p>[13:40] Meet Kari Bruffett</p><p>[15:17] Data Dismissed Then Faced</p><p>[16:07] Wyandotte County Wakeup Call</p><p>[17:44] Policy Barriers Behind Rankings</p><p>[19:26] Check Engine Light Lesson</p><p>[21:10] Mayor Confronts The Data</p><p>[22:02] Upstream Barriers And Action</p><p>[22:22] Authority And The 30000</p><p>[23:23] Why Kansas Settles For Average</p><p>[25:54] Chasing Excellence At KU Health</p><p>[29:51] Reimagining Beyond Constraints</p><p>[32:51] From Scarcity To Collective Leadership</p><p>[33:38] Cowley County Data Walk</p><p>[36:46] Adaptive Leadership Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>RESOURCES</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://kansashealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/AHR_Kansas_Summary_2025.pdf">Kansas' Health Rankings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.khi.org/">Kansas Health Institute (KHI)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kansasleadershipcenter.org/">Kansas Leadership Center</a></li><li><a href="https://www.bcbsks.com/blue-health-initiatives/pathways/pathways-to-a-healthy-kansas">Pathways to a Healthy Kansas Data Walk</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Health, wellness, thriving, community, Kansas, healthcare, leadership</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Health as a North Star</title>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>3</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Health as a North Star</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the secret to Kansas's economic future isn't just about business growth—but about the health of every single person in the state? In this conversation, we explore why America's Health Rankings matter far beyond the healthcare sector, and how 30,000 influential Kansans hold the key to reversing our state's decades-long health decline.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><p>• Kansas has fallen from 8th to 27th in America's Health Rankings since 1991—the steepest decline of any state</p><p>• The ranking measures over 50 factors including economic opportunity, food security, education, civic engagement, and workplace safety—not just traditional healthcare</p><p>• Research shows the relationship between health and economics works both ways: healthier people are more productive, healthier workforces strengthen companies, and healthier populations boost GDP</p><p>• The "30,000" influential Kansans—leaders across sectors who don't necessarily work in healthcare—play an outsized role in creating conditions for health</p><p>• America's Health Rankings is produced by UnitedHealth in partnership with the American Public Health Association, combining private sector rigor with public health expertise</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Welcome and Introduction to Chapter 3</p><p>01:30 - Recap and Personal Reflections</p><p>02:15 - Introducing America's Health Rankings</p><p>05:45 - The Importance of Health Rankings for Kansas</p><p>11:20 - Kansas Health Foundation's Strategic Focus</p><p>15:30 - The Role of the 30,000 in Improving Health</p><p>18:45 - Economic Implications of Health Rankings</p><p>20:30 - Call to Action and Conclusion</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><p>• <a href="https://kansashealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/AHR_Kansas_Summary_2025.pdf">Explore the Kansas State Summary of America's Health Rankings</a></p><p>• <a href="https://kansashealth.org/economic-case/">Economic Case for Health</a> - The Kansas Health Foundation (KHF) has released its Economic Case for Health report, revealing that this decline is not just a medical crisis—it is a direct threat to the state’s workforce productivity and fiscal stability.</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the secret to Kansas's economic future isn't just about business growth—but about the health of every single person in the state? In this conversation, we explore why America's Health Rankings matter far beyond the healthcare sector, and how 30,000 influential Kansans hold the key to reversing our state's decades-long health decline.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><p>• Kansas has fallen from 8th to 27th in America's Health Rankings since 1991—the steepest decline of any state</p><p>• The ranking measures over 50 factors including economic opportunity, food security, education, civic engagement, and workplace safety—not just traditional healthcare</p><p>• Research shows the relationship between health and economics works both ways: healthier people are more productive, healthier workforces strengthen companies, and healthier populations boost GDP</p><p>• The "30,000" influential Kansans—leaders across sectors who don't necessarily work in healthcare—play an outsized role in creating conditions for health</p><p>• America's Health Rankings is produced by UnitedHealth in partnership with the American Public Health Association, combining private sector rigor with public health expertise</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Welcome and Introduction to Chapter 3</p><p>01:30 - Recap and Personal Reflections</p><p>02:15 - Introducing America's Health Rankings</p><p>05:45 - The Importance of Health Rankings for Kansas</p><p>11:20 - Kansas Health Foundation's Strategic Focus</p><p>15:30 - The Role of the 30,000 in Improving Health</p><p>18:45 - Economic Implications of Health Rankings</p><p>20:30 - Call to Action and Conclusion</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><p>• <a href="https://kansashealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/AHR_Kansas_Summary_2025.pdf">Explore the Kansas State Summary of America's Health Rankings</a></p><p>• <a href="https://kansashealth.org/economic-case/">Economic Case for Health</a> - The Kansas Health Foundation (KHF) has released its Economic Case for Health report, revealing that this decline is not just a medical crisis—it is a direct threat to the state’s workforce productivity and fiscal stability.</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 03:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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      <itunes:duration>1308</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the secret to Kansas's economic future isn't just about business growth—but about the health of every single person in the state? In this conversation, we explore why America's Health Rankings matter far beyond the healthcare sector, and how 30,000 influential Kansans hold the key to reversing our state's decades-long health decline.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><p>• Kansas has fallen from 8th to 27th in America's Health Rankings since 1991—the steepest decline of any state</p><p>• The ranking measures over 50 factors including economic opportunity, food security, education, civic engagement, and workplace safety—not just traditional healthcare</p><p>• Research shows the relationship between health and economics works both ways: healthier people are more productive, healthier workforces strengthen companies, and healthier populations boost GDP</p><p>• The "30,000" influential Kansans—leaders across sectors who don't necessarily work in healthcare—play an outsized role in creating conditions for health</p><p>• America's Health Rankings is produced by UnitedHealth in partnership with the American Public Health Association, combining private sector rigor with public health expertise</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Welcome and Introduction to Chapter 3</p><p>01:30 - Recap and Personal Reflections</p><p>02:15 - Introducing America's Health Rankings</p><p>05:45 - The Importance of Health Rankings for Kansas</p><p>11:20 - Kansas Health Foundation's Strategic Focus</p><p>15:30 - The Role of the 30,000 in Improving Health</p><p>18:45 - Economic Implications of Health Rankings</p><p>20:30 - Call to Action and Conclusion</p><p><br></p><p>Resources</p><p><br></p><p>• <a href="https://kansashealth.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/AHR_Kansas_Summary_2025.pdf">Explore the Kansas State Summary of America's Health Rankings</a></p><p>• <a href="https://kansashealth.org/economic-case/">Economic Case for Health</a> - The Kansas Health Foundation (KHF) has released its Economic Case for Health report, revealing that this decline is not just a medical crisis—it is a direct threat to the state’s workforce productivity and fiscal stability.</p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Health, wellness, thriving, community, Kansas, healthcare, leadership</itunes:keywords>
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      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>The 30,000 and Health</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when the people with power and influence in our communities fail to act on the factors that create Health? The data tells a sobering story: stroke victims, ER visits, and cancer diagnoses are all trending upward. This isn't just a healthcare problem—it's a leadership problem.</p><p><br></p><p>We explore the concept of Kansas's "30,000"—the elected officials, nonprofit executives, pastors, business leaders, and community influencers who hold the keys to creating conditions where everyone can thrive. These aren't just abstract ideas. We sit down with Teresa Lovelady, President and CEO of HealthCore Clinic, who brings a unique perspective as someone who has lived on both sides of the health gap. From showing up as an uninsured mom seeking care for her son's asthma to now leading one of Wichita's most vital community health centers, Theresa shares what it really means to bridge the divide between those with authority and those struggling to survive.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><p>• The 30,000 Kansans who hold civic authority have outsized influence on the conditions that create health in our state</p><p>• The ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) represents the working poor who are trying hard but can't make ends meet</p><p>• "Mommy shaming"—the judgment that prevents people from seeking help—creates barriers to health that go beyond insurance and access</p><p>• Small acts by people in positions of authority can create massive ripple effects: asking how someone is doing, making thoughtful budget decisions, or simply listening without judgment</p><p>• The health gap isn't just about individual choices—it's about the systems and structures that the 30,000 create and maintain</p><p>• Being part of the 30,000 comes with responsibility, but also opportunity to make meaningful change in your sphere of influence</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>[0:48] - Welcome to Episode Two</p><p>[0:54] - Recap of Chapter One and Introduction to Chapter Two</p><p>[1:46] - The Role of the 30,000 Kansans</p><p>[3:56] - Understanding the ALICE Population</p><p>[5:36] - Interview with Theresa Lovelady</p><p>[6:35] - Theresa's Personal Journey from Patient to CEO</p><p>[16:05] - Challenges and Responsibilities of Leadership</p><p>[23:56] - Closing Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><p>• HealthCore Clinic - Federally qualified health center in Wichita, Kansas providing medical, dental, behavioral health services, pharmacy, food pantry, and health education -<a href="https://www.healthcoreclinic.org/"> https://www.healthcoreclinic.org</a></p><p>• United for ALICE - Learn more about the individuals that make up ALICE, Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed. <a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org/introducing-ALICE/Kansas">https://www.unitedforalice.org/introducing-ALICE/Kansas</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when the people with power and influence in our communities fail to act on the factors that create Health? The data tells a sobering story: stroke victims, ER visits, and cancer diagnoses are all trending upward. This isn't just a healthcare problem—it's a leadership problem.</p><p><br></p><p>We explore the concept of Kansas's "30,000"—the elected officials, nonprofit executives, pastors, business leaders, and community influencers who hold the keys to creating conditions where everyone can thrive. These aren't just abstract ideas. We sit down with Teresa Lovelady, President and CEO of HealthCore Clinic, who brings a unique perspective as someone who has lived on both sides of the health gap. From showing up as an uninsured mom seeking care for her son's asthma to now leading one of Wichita's most vital community health centers, Theresa shares what it really means to bridge the divide between those with authority and those struggling to survive.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><p>• The 30,000 Kansans who hold civic authority have outsized influence on the conditions that create health in our state</p><p>• The ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) represents the working poor who are trying hard but can't make ends meet</p><p>• "Mommy shaming"—the judgment that prevents people from seeking help—creates barriers to health that go beyond insurance and access</p><p>• Small acts by people in positions of authority can create massive ripple effects: asking how someone is doing, making thoughtful budget decisions, or simply listening without judgment</p><p>• The health gap isn't just about individual choices—it's about the systems and structures that the 30,000 create and maintain</p><p>• Being part of the 30,000 comes with responsibility, but also opportunity to make meaningful change in your sphere of influence</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>[0:48] - Welcome to Episode Two</p><p>[0:54] - Recap of Chapter One and Introduction to Chapter Two</p><p>[1:46] - The Role of the 30,000 Kansans</p><p>[3:56] - Understanding the ALICE Population</p><p>[5:36] - Interview with Theresa Lovelady</p><p>[6:35] - Theresa's Personal Journey from Patient to CEO</p><p>[16:05] - Challenges and Responsibilities of Leadership</p><p>[23:56] - Closing Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><p>• HealthCore Clinic - Federally qualified health center in Wichita, Kansas providing medical, dental, behavioral health services, pharmacy, food pantry, and health education -<a href="https://www.healthcoreclinic.org/"> https://www.healthcoreclinic.org</a></p><p>• United for ALICE - Learn more about the individuals that make up ALICE, Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed. <a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org/introducing-ALICE/Kansas">https://www.unitedforalice.org/introducing-ALICE/Kansas</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 03:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when the people with power and influence in our communities fail to act on the factors that create Health? The data tells a sobering story: stroke victims, ER visits, and cancer diagnoses are all trending upward. This isn't just a healthcare problem—it's a leadership problem.</p><p><br></p><p>We explore the concept of Kansas's "30,000"—the elected officials, nonprofit executives, pastors, business leaders, and community influencers who hold the keys to creating conditions where everyone can thrive. These aren't just abstract ideas. We sit down with Teresa Lovelady, President and CEO of HealthCore Clinic, who brings a unique perspective as someone who has lived on both sides of the health gap. From showing up as an uninsured mom seeking care for her son's asthma to now leading one of Wichita's most vital community health centers, Theresa shares what it really means to bridge the divide between those with authority and those struggling to survive.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights</p><p><br></p><p>• The 30,000 Kansans who hold civic authority have outsized influence on the conditions that create health in our state</p><p>• The ALICE population (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) represents the working poor who are trying hard but can't make ends meet</p><p>• "Mommy shaming"—the judgment that prevents people from seeking help—creates barriers to health that go beyond insurance and access</p><p>• Small acts by people in positions of authority can create massive ripple effects: asking how someone is doing, making thoughtful budget decisions, or simply listening without judgment</p><p>• The health gap isn't just about individual choices—it's about the systems and structures that the 30,000 create and maintain</p><p>• Being part of the 30,000 comes with responsibility, but also opportunity to make meaningful change in your sphere of influence</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p><br></p><p>[0:48] - Welcome to Episode Two</p><p>[0:54] - Recap of Chapter One and Introduction to Chapter Two</p><p>[1:46] - The Role of the 30,000 Kansans</p><p>[3:56] - Understanding the ALICE Population</p><p>[5:36] - Interview with Theresa Lovelady</p><p>[6:35] - Theresa's Personal Journey from Patient to CEO</p><p>[16:05] - Challenges and Responsibilities of Leadership</p><p>[23:56] - Closing Thoughts and Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned</p><p><br></p><p>• HealthCore Clinic - Federally qualified health center in Wichita, Kansas providing medical, dental, behavioral health services, pharmacy, food pantry, and health education -<a href="https://www.healthcoreclinic.org/"> https://www.healthcoreclinic.org</a></p><p>• United for ALICE - Learn more about the individuals that make up ALICE, Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed. <a href="https://www.unitedforalice.org/introducing-ALICE/Kansas">https://www.unitedforalice.org/introducing-ALICE/Kansas</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>health vs Health</title>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest health crisis in Kansas isn't happening in hospitals at all? After touring one of America's best health systems and witnessing cutting-edge stroke treatments and trauma care, host Ed O’Malley left feeling worried instead of impressed. The problem isn't that we lack brilliant doctors—it's that we need more and more of their brilliance every year. Everything is trending up and to the right: more strokes, more trauma cases, more cancer diagnoses. But why?</p><p><br></p><p>The answer lies in understanding a crucial distinction: health with a lowercase "h" versus Health with a capital "H." Lowercase health is healthcare—it's what happens when you're already sick. Capital H Health is your ability to thrive. It's everything that creates the conditions for wellbeing: your neighborhood quality, economic opportunity, education, transportation, even broadband access. And here's the thing: Kansas used to be one of the healthiest states in the nation. We've fallen as low as #31. No state has fallen further in 35 years.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast series explores how 30,000 influential Kansans—elected officials, business leaders, educators, community organizers—can help turn this around. Because improving Health isn't just a healthcare challenge. It's a leadership challenge.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights:</p><p><br></p><p>• The distinction between capital H Health (ability to thrive) and lowercase health (healthcare/sick care)</p><p>• Why everything is going "up and to the right" in healthcare—more strokes, trauma, and cancer cases every year</p><p>• The shocking lifespan gap: Mission Hills (86.7 years) vs. Argentine (75.1 years)—just miles apart</p><p>• Who the 30,000 are and why they hold the key to Kansas's health future</p><p>• Kansas's health ranking decline from top-tier to #31 in the nation</p><p>• The World Health Organization's definition of health as complete physical, mental, and social wellbeing</p><p>• Why broadband access, transportation, and zip codes are health issues</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters:</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 - Welcome to the Leading Health Podcast</p><p>0:56 - Introducing the Hosts and the Book</p><p>1:31 - The Vision Behind the Podcast</p><p>3:46 - Structure of the Book</p><p>4:28 - Conversation Catalysts</p><p>6:22 - Capital H Health vs. Lowercase Health</p><p>18:19 - The Role of the 30,000</p><p>23:11 - Conclusion and Next Steps</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><p><br></p><p>• Leading Health: How You and 30,000 Kansans Help Communities Thrive</p><p><a href="https://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth/">https://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest health crisis in Kansas isn't happening in hospitals at all? After touring one of America's best health systems and witnessing cutting-edge stroke treatments and trauma care, host Ed O’Malley left feeling worried instead of impressed. The problem isn't that we lack brilliant doctors—it's that we need more and more of their brilliance every year. Everything is trending up and to the right: more strokes, more trauma cases, more cancer diagnoses. But why?</p><p><br></p><p>The answer lies in understanding a crucial distinction: health with a lowercase "h" versus Health with a capital "H." Lowercase health is healthcare—it's what happens when you're already sick. Capital H Health is your ability to thrive. It's everything that creates the conditions for wellbeing: your neighborhood quality, economic opportunity, education, transportation, even broadband access. And here's the thing: Kansas used to be one of the healthiest states in the nation. We've fallen as low as #31. No state has fallen further in 35 years.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast series explores how 30,000 influential Kansans—elected officials, business leaders, educators, community organizers—can help turn this around. Because improving Health isn't just a healthcare challenge. It's a leadership challenge.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights:</p><p><br></p><p>• The distinction between capital H Health (ability to thrive) and lowercase health (healthcare/sick care)</p><p>• Why everything is going "up and to the right" in healthcare—more strokes, trauma, and cancer cases every year</p><p>• The shocking lifespan gap: Mission Hills (86.7 years) vs. Argentine (75.1 years)—just miles apart</p><p>• Who the 30,000 are and why they hold the key to Kansas's health future</p><p>• Kansas's health ranking decline from top-tier to #31 in the nation</p><p>• The World Health Organization's definition of health as complete physical, mental, and social wellbeing</p><p>• Why broadband access, transportation, and zip codes are health issues</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters:</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 - Welcome to the Leading Health Podcast</p><p>0:56 - Introducing the Hosts and the Book</p><p>1:31 - The Vision Behind the Podcast</p><p>3:46 - Structure of the Book</p><p>4:28 - Conversation Catalysts</p><p>6:22 - Capital H Health vs. Lowercase Health</p><p>18:19 - The Role of the 30,000</p><p>23:11 - Conclusion and Next Steps</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><p><br></p><p>• Leading Health: How You and 30,000 Kansans Help Communities Thrive</p><p><a href="https://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth/">https://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 03:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
      <author>Kansas Health Foundation</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the biggest health crisis in Kansas isn't happening in hospitals at all? After touring one of America's best health systems and witnessing cutting-edge stroke treatments and trauma care, host Ed O’Malley left feeling worried instead of impressed. The problem isn't that we lack brilliant doctors—it's that we need more and more of their brilliance every year. Everything is trending up and to the right: more strokes, more trauma cases, more cancer diagnoses. But why?</p><p><br></p><p>The answer lies in understanding a crucial distinction: health with a lowercase "h" versus Health with a capital "H." Lowercase health is healthcare—it's what happens when you're already sick. Capital H Health is your ability to thrive. It's everything that creates the conditions for wellbeing: your neighborhood quality, economic opportunity, education, transportation, even broadband access. And here's the thing: Kansas used to be one of the healthiest states in the nation. We've fallen as low as #31. No state has fallen further in 35 years.</p><p><br></p><p>This podcast series explores how 30,000 influential Kansans—elected officials, business leaders, educators, community organizers—can help turn this around. Because improving Health isn't just a healthcare challenge. It's a leadership challenge.</p><p><br></p><p>Highlights:</p><p><br></p><p>• The distinction between capital H Health (ability to thrive) and lowercase health (healthcare/sick care)</p><p>• Why everything is going "up and to the right" in healthcare—more strokes, trauma, and cancer cases every year</p><p>• The shocking lifespan gap: Mission Hills (86.7 years) vs. Argentine (75.1 years)—just miles apart</p><p>• Who the 30,000 are and why they hold the key to Kansas's health future</p><p>• Kansas's health ranking decline from top-tier to #31 in the nation</p><p>• The World Health Organization's definition of health as complete physical, mental, and social wellbeing</p><p>• Why broadband access, transportation, and zip codes are health issues</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters:</p><p><br></p><p>0:48 - Welcome to the Leading Health Podcast</p><p>0:56 - Introducing the Hosts and the Book</p><p>1:31 - The Vision Behind the Podcast</p><p>3:46 - Structure of the Book</p><p>4:28 - Conversation Catalysts</p><p>6:22 - Capital H Health vs. Lowercase Health</p><p>18:19 - The Role of the 30,000</p><p>23:11 - Conclusion and Next Steps</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><p><br></p><p>• Leading Health: How You and 30,000 Kansans Help Communities Thrive</p><p><a href="https://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth/">https://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Leading Health is an invitation to move the needle on Health in Kansas, and we invite you to join us in leading the way. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t have a copy of Leading Health? Claim your copy and learn more about the movement at <a href="http://kansashealth.org/leadinghealth">kansashealth.org/leadinghealth</a></p><p><br></p><p>And be sure to subscribe, and drop a comment to let us know what you think.</p><p><br></p>]]>
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