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    <description>Welcome to eavesdrop on a complicated story!
Every week, Johanne Schwensen, clinical psychologist and co-founder of It’s Complicated, sits down for a conversation with her co-founder and friend, Jungian analyst Jakob Lusensky.

Together, we share insights from our journey of building It’s Complicated, running our private practices, and navigating the real-time growth of the platform and therapist community.

Join us in creating the world’s most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</description>
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Every week, Johanne Schwensen, clinical psychologist and co-founder of It’s Complicated, sits down for a conversation with her co-founder and friend, Jungian analyst Jakob Lusensky.

Together, we share insights from our journey of building It’s Complicated, running our private practices, and navigating the real-time growth of the platform and therapist community.

Join us in creating the world’s most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our final catch-up of the year, we do both some wrapping up and some unwrapping; reflecting on the highlights of 2024 and looking ahead to what’s in store for <em>It’s Complicated </em>in 2025. If you enjoy our musings and insights, don’t forget to subscribe to <em>A Complicated Story</em> wherever you get your podcasts.</p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our final catch-up of the year, we do both some wrapping up and some unwrapping; reflecting on the highlights of 2024 and looking ahead to what’s in store for <em>It’s Complicated </em>in 2025. If you enjoy our musings and insights, don’t forget to subscribe to <em>A Complicated Story</em> wherever you get your podcasts.</p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2025 01:41:41 -0800</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss procrastination, our therapist persona's and AI intimacy.</p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss procrastination, our therapist persona's and AI intimacy.</p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss books role in the therapy room and the new bookshelf feature on the It's Complicated platform. Check out <a href="https://complicated.life/find-a-therapist/copenhagen/clinical-psychologist-johanne-schwensen">Johanne</a> &amp; <a href="https://complicated.life/find-a-therapist/berlin/jungian-psychoanalyst-jakob-lusensky">Jakob's</a> bookshelves by scrolling to the explore section on their respective therapist profiles!<em> <br></em><br><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss books role in the therapy room and the new bookshelf feature on the It's Complicated platform. Check out <a href="https://complicated.life/find-a-therapist/copenhagen/clinical-psychologist-johanne-schwensen">Johanne</a> &amp; <a href="https://complicated.life/find-a-therapist/berlin/jungian-psychoanalyst-jakob-lusensky">Jakob's</a> bookshelves by scrolling to the explore section on their respective therapist profiles!<em> <br></em><br><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2024 07:21:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we grapple with three different questions. <em>What's a therapist community? How does It's Complicated help practitioners to find not only their patients but also their peers? How will AI-therapy effect our work?  <br></em><br>This episode was recorded in three different locations at our<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB9h7lwIFAa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link"> It's Complicated tour to Barcelona</a> and found its inspiration from talking to and meeting with the therapists in the local community.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we grapple with three different questions. <em>What's a therapist community? How does It's Complicated help practitioners to find not only their patients but also their peers? How will AI-therapy effect our work?  <br></em><br>This episode was recorded in three different locations at our<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB9h7lwIFAa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link"> It's Complicated tour to Barcelona</a> and found its inspiration from talking to and meeting with the therapists in the local community.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 00:09:59 -0800</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we grapple with three different questions. <em>What's a therapist community? How does It's Complicated help practitioners to find not only their patients but also their peers? How will AI-therapy effect our work?  <br></em><br>This episode was recorded in three different locations at our<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB9h7lwIFAa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link"> It's Complicated tour to Barcelona</a> and found its inspiration from talking to and meeting with the therapists in the local community.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss the essential question of how to grow a private practice and getting leads. Is an entrepreneurial spirit necessary? How does one individuate professionally and find one's unique niche? </p><p>We also share practical tips from our own therapy practices and how we're working on transforming some of these experiences into new features on the It's Complicated platform. </p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss the essential question of how to grow a private practice and getting leads. Is an entrepreneurial spirit necessary? How does one individuate professionally and find one's unique niche? </p><p>We also share practical tips from our own therapy practices and how we're working on transforming some of these experiences into new features on the It's Complicated platform. </p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Eavesdrop on the serendipitous journey of two therapists, Johanne Schwensen and Jakob Lusensky, as they grow the therapist community <a href="https://www.complicated.life/en">It's Complicated</a> alongside their private practices. </p><p>In this first episode, we reflect on eleven years of working together, exploring how building a private practice has evolved over the years. We discuss the differences between engaging online versus in person, how the zeitgeist varies from city to city, and preview our upcoming tour and annual gathering.</p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Eavesdrop on the serendipitous journey of two therapists, Johanne Schwensen and Jakob Lusensky, as they grow the therapist community <a href="https://www.complicated.life/en">It's Complicated</a> alongside their private practices. </p><p>In this first episode, we reflect on eleven years of working together, exploring how building a private practice has evolved over the years. We discuss the differences between engaging online versus in person, how the zeitgeist varies from city to city, and preview our upcoming tour and annual gathering.</p><p><em>Help us build the world's most international and diverse therapist community by signing up here: </em><a href="https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists"><em>https://www.complicated.life/for-therapists</em></a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Mental health, Private Practice, Psychotherapy, Psychologist, Community</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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