Introverted But Willing To Discuss Tori Amos

S3E4 Tori Amos EU Tour Review (SO FAR) + Song Wishlist

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 13:19:12 -0500

Calling all of our fellow setlist scholars and lounge lizards 🦎 👩‍🏫 🎹

We hear and feel your palpable excitement about Tori on tour right now, and honestly, we are still geeking out in real time as the setlists roll in each night too. So we thought we’d keep capturing that magic and excitement.

Tonight, each of us has picked five songs that we desperately want to see Tori perform on the In Times of Dragons tour. As of now, a few shows in, none of these have appeared in the setlist yet—and we haven’t shared our picks with each other, so we’ll all unzip our religion down together.

We’re going to loudly -perhaps delusionally- campaign for these songs, and maybe you can help us shout em from the rooftops in Tori’s direction along the way. Let’s close our eyes and imagine together what these fifteen songs could become—especially now that we have three insanely talented background vocalists adding layers and dimension in a way we’ve never really heard before.

So buckle up, girls and boys, ’cause we’re driving the setlist tonight. If Jon Evans ever needs a night off as Musical Director, give us a ring…we’re cheap, cute and ready to go!

S3E3 Pre-gaming OUR Super Bowl – Tori Amos is on tour!

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 23:59:04 -0500

Welcome to Introverted but Willing to Discuss Tori Amos — the podcast for quiet thinkers, deep listeners, and anyone who has ever had a life moment soundtracked by a Tori Amos song.

On Episode 3, Kristen, Matt and Joey discuss something that lives somewhere between ritual and road trip: Tori Amos on tour.

Because a Tori tour isn’t just a series of concerts — it’s a living, breathing, moving cultural conversation. Songs shift, setlists breathe, old tracks reappear in new emotional colors, and every night becomes its own little universe.

Whether you’ve followed Tori across cities and continents, caught a single unforgettable show, or watched the magic unfold from afar, touring is where the songs evolve — and where the stories begin.

So in true introvert fashion, we’ll ease into it: the anticipation, the travel, the setlist surprises, the quiet community that forms in theater seats around the world, and what it feels like when those first piano notes hit the room and everything starts to vibrate.

Tonight, on the eve of the In Times of Dragons world tour launch, we pre-game our version of the Super Bowl: Tori Amos on tour!

S3E2 Up in the Clerb with Tori Amos: Remixes and Electronica ft. Bright Light Bright Light

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Tue, 31 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0500

On our 2nd episode of season 3, we have the pleasure and privilege of being joined by the one and only Rod Thomas, better known as the iconique Bright Light, Bright Light, an artist, songwriter, producer, and DJ who has released five studio albums since 2012, his most recent being the UK top 10 selling Enjoy Youth from 2024.

While being a fully independent artist, he has recorded with some of the music's biggest names, including Sir Elton John, Scissor Sisters, Justin Vivian Bond, Erasure, Madonna's backing singers, Nikki and Donna, and Ultra Naté.

He has also toured the world as the opening act for Elton, Erasure, Ellie Goulding, and queen icon legend Cher. His love of 80s and 90s pop culture shines in his cinematic, colorful dance pop music, his remixes, and his DJ sets ranging from his weekly tea dance in New York City to Prides around the world and prestigious US institutions, MoMA and the Smithsonian.

Most importantly, he is a self professed and very public Toriphile! And there's truly no one better than to deep dive Tori's fascinating and seemingly contradictory, but perhaps ultimately fitting relationship to electronica, synth pop and the strange boundless world of the remix. Welcome, welcome, Bright Light Bright Light.

S3E1 The Cinema of Tori Amos

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 22 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0500

For our Season 3 premiere we are going to zoom in on Tori’s relationship to cinema. I (Matt) have always been inspired by the movies, movies are my earliest memories. They were my first love, my longest relationship and for a long time, my bread and butter.

On our season 2 episode featuring JPS JV asked him how he would describe Tori’s music. We see Tori as a great auteur, someone who creates worlds that are cinematic and immersive. In that respect, she is like the Martin Scorsese of singer-songwriters: a director who can handle any genre thrown at him, but still retains a certain quality that is unmistakably his and his alone.

To be this kind of artist, at minimum, you have to at least know yourself inside and out and Tori proved with Little Earthquakes that she could articulate everything that was inside of her mind, her heart, her bones. She did this so early in life that she allowed herself the creative freedoms to blend those worlds for the rest of her career, and explore narrative and character in a way very few singer-songwriters have. She became a sonic character actress sure, because she played all of the roles in her songs herself, but, in our view, she truly became a sonic auteur. The listener can see these stories visually as they experience the music sonically.

Today we are cataloguing and contextualizing Tori Amos many dalliances with cinema, so no please join us as we launch Season THRAY.

S2E11 Tori Amos is DTF! The Spicy Season 2 Finale

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 28 Dec 2025 18:30:24 -0600

A wise man (not really, it was just Matt Mazur) once said "Tori Amos invented sex," and in this season finale, we’re proving it. Whether she's falling in love in the snow or commanding the piano bench, Tori knows how to turn it up a notch. We’ve got a "DTF" playlist ready for you to enjoy the winter chill that bends. We’re introverted, we’re obsessed, and we’re ready to discuss the steamier side of Tori Amos.

One Night Stand: TA DTF playlist

S2E10 SCARY Tori! The darkest, scariest, and most feral Tori Amos moments

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Fri, 31 Oct 2025 16:00:00 -0500

There’s not just one Tori Amos.

There’s the mystical Tori. The one who whispers and stirs your soul with a single, dramatically drawn breathy sigh. Ethereal and enchanted. Imagine her as a church choir girl sun, faerie moon and a mermaid rising if you’re into astrology.

Then there’s the sensual Tori. The one who moves like honey, undulating on the piano bench, eyes half-closed, turning her microphone into a… lover. Desire and divinity inhabit the same body, and she always finishes on top. ;)

And then there’s the Tori who bares her teeth, growls, screams, and slams the keys. You have seen this tori in various forms. She’s the one who famously performed a song about her own assault while gripping a knife on stage.

This Halloween, as the veil between worlds grows thin, we’re calling on that Tori– the one who kicked out the lady in the white shirt (does she fucking mind?). Because Scary Tori isn’t a costume. She’s a force of nature- part witch, part warrior- and she’s on a mission. This Tori channels something ancient through her piano and what she finds might even surprise her at times.

So today, in honor of the season of shadows, we’re talking about Scary Tori: the power that makes you flinch… and then lean closer.

S2E9 Our Top 10 Favorite Tori Amos Songs with special guest John Philip Shenale

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Thu, 02 Oct 2025 20:00:00 -0500

We are honored to have a producer, composer, arranger, multi-instrumentalist, musical visionary in our presence. He's worked alongside some of the biggest legends in music history, and he also happens to be Tori Amos' longtime write or die right-hand man across many decades and many projects. Most recently, this dynamic duo collaborated on the wildly whimsical soundtrack that accompanies the New York Times best-selling children's book Tori and the Muses, please welcome our friend, the maestro, John Philip Shenale.

We've heard you love our list making so we're coming at you with yet another list. This time it's the big one. It's our top 10 favorites list. NOT our best of, NOT our underrated. It's our favorites. So tonight you're in for real treat as we unveil our top tens alongside John Philip Shenale, who will be sharing his top 10 Tori Amos tracks that he did not work on. Maybe with a twist. We'll see.

Our favorite top 10 Tori Amos songs:

S2E8 Tori Tea Time - we answer your questions about new music, tour 2026 and more!

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Wed, 01 Oct 2025 09:26:34 -0500

In this episode, we open the mailbag and dive into your burning questions. Will there be a 2026 tour? Is a new album on the horizon? We share our takes, speculate wildly, and cover the topics you most wanted to hear about.

S2E7 Tori Amos and the Media featuring Rich Juzwiak

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Mon, 04 Aug 2025 10:11:20 -0500

We’re doing things a bit differently as we welcome our very first guest for a very special episode, where we’ll attempt to scratch the surface of Tori’s complicated relationship with the media over the past three decades. We’ll explore not only how she’s been represented (and misrepresented) by an often unforgiving and unflattering press, but also the ways in which Tori’s intuition and perceptiveness allowed her to have the upper hand, talking circles around and discomfiting her inquisitors, and making clear that she wouldn’t back down from her ideals or be silenced by patriarchal standards - way before it was cool or safe or, let’s be frank, not potentially career-ending to do so.

Helping us to tackle this red-hot topic is a written and literal voice many of our listeners will be familiar with, both from the at once provocative and positively silly podcast Pot Psychology and his writing in The New York Times, Pitchfork, The Washington Post, Spin, Jezebel, and Gawker, among other publications. He also co-authors Slate’s sex advice column How to Do It. A true raconteur and renaissance man - Rich Juzwiak!

Rich's latter day playlist made with love by Joey, Kristen, and Matt
Recent Pitchfork reassessment of Boys for Pele (2025)
Q Magazine “Hips. Lips. Tits. Power." (1994)
Rolling Stone review of Boys for Pele (1996)
Rolling Stone cover story (1998)
Tori on Roseanne’s talk show (1998)
Tori on Rosie O’Donnell (1999)
Tori on the Daily Show (1999)
Tori on The View (1999)
Rolling Stone Beekeeper review (2004)
Stylus review
THR Full Oscar Songwriters Roundtable featuring Tori Amos, Justin Timberlake, John Legend, Alicia Keys, Sting (2016)
Rick Beato interview (2024)

S2E6 The 20 Most Underrated Tori Amos Songs

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sat, 28 Jun 2025 12:20:36 -0500

In this episode, we ponder what it means for a Tori Amos song to be “underrated.” Is “underrated” in this context even something definable? Or is it ultimately subjective and personal to the individual listener?

Is a song underrated because Tori rarely or never performs it? Or is it a song that’s been played so many times that we’ve taken it for granted and can no longer hear the genius and the grit that went into its creation? Or perhaps it lives on a latter-day Tori record that’s less celebrated, less heard by the general public?

In the spirit of our wildly successful – and a touch controversial – Best of Tori Amos episode, we bring to you The 20 Most Underrated Tori Songs. We repeated our very scientific method of each crafting individual lists of what we believe to be Tori’s most underrated tracks – from proper albums only; no bsides, no soundtracks, no covers, no seasonal music - tallying each song’s respective points and then ranking the ranking them in ascending order.

The result is a playlist that spans many - but not all - of Tori’s records, chock full of gags, goops, gogs, and go-figures. Given how underrated we likely all agree Tori is in the broader history of contemporary music, this very episode may be the definition of a fool’s errand. Regardless, in the spirit of the woman we call Tori once calling herself an “ant fucker,” we are Introverted but willing to discuss Tori Amos’ most underrated songs.

Playlists:

S2E5 The Tori Amos Effect: It's Giving "Tori"

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 25 May 2025 14:47:50 -0500

We are Introverted but Willing to Discuss Tori Amos, as always, but on this episode, we’re gonna need some thoughts and prayers because we’re going to talk about something else… sorta.

No, we’re not giving a Father Lucifer bridge-style middle finger to our audience. We are instead going to share our playlists of music by other artists that remind us of our favorite Tori Amos music.Let’s face it: being a Tori fan isn’t always glamorous and cool. Sometimes we are judged. Sometimes we are called obsessive. Sometimes “people” don’t like us playing our girl on a speaker. But hey as Tori has famously said “I’m anchovies, if I were potato chips I could go a lot further.”

Has anyone ever made fun of you for listening to Tori Amos? Not let you play your fave tune in a car on a road trip? We’ve made bulletproof playlists that you can use in those awkward moments when you can’t put your Tori on, but you need to get your Tori fix. We like to call it “Tori, Not Tori”.

Let's talk about maybe some of our other favorite music … that reminds us of our real favorite music.

S2E4 The Tori Amos Country Album

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 13 Apr 2025 13:23:36 -0500

Greetings to the cowboys, the snakes, and the kin among us. Tonight we have a real southern tale to tell. Somewhere out past the cat’s whiskers and royal palm, where the air hangs heavy with history, there’s a sound—low, humming, ancient. Maybe it’s a siren calling from a forgotten Southern shore, or the echo of Datura blooming under an October moon. Or maybe—just maybe—it’s the land calling back.Tonight, we’re following that sound through Tori Amos’ most Southern-infused songs—the ones laced with heat, history, and a little bit of blood memory.Now, let’s put our alligator boots in the dirt. Yes, Tori was born in North Carolina, but she grew up in Maryland—Southern enough if you’re feeling generous, but let’s be honest, it’s not exactly Dixie. Still, this lizard woman knows the South. The places where time bends a little differently. Her Cherokee blood runs deep, and her family’s history is carved into the land like a story waiting to be sung. And yes, the song lines, they do indeed sing.Whether she’s summoning the turquoise serpents, calling out to the Merman in a rising tide, we’re mapping out a Tori playlist where the South isn’t just a place—it’s a feeling. And if we get lost along the way, well… we’ll just drive all night until we find our way back.So let’s go to her Southern land of gold. Just go. Tonight we are Introverted but willing to mess with a southern girl.Playlists:JV KK MM

S2E3 Tori Amos' Silliest Songs

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:08:30 -0500

Known for her dramatic intensity and often-dark, broodingly romantic compositions, Tori Amos has perhaps unfairly gotten a reputation for being very, very serious. To be fair, sometimes she is (and we love it!). However, contrary to popular belief, when you take a closer look, Tori also has an extremely funny side. Her particular tongue-in-cheek brand of wit often translates directly into key songs that provide moments of oppositional levity and sweet relief amidst some of her most emotionally-searing sonic landscapes.

Tori Amos’ “Silly Songs” have always been a part of the fabric of her musical worlds and are well-documented, but they were officially named in 1996 with the release of several b-sides that directly contradicted the more bleak album tracks from the legendary Boys For Pele. Songs like “Graveyard”, “Toodles Mr. Jim”, and “That’s What I Like Mick (The Sandwich Song”) gave listeners a warm, welcomed glimpse of Tori’s slightly left of center sense of humor, while still fully highlighting her musical chops.

Whether she’s almost running over an angel, smacking down George Bush Jr with a sassy “who’s your daddy?” or chatting up God to confess her foodie sins, it is important to remember Tori is not afraid to be a ‘lil silly (as beautifully evidenced in her most recent release: the whimsical new music for her New York Time best-selling children’s book Tori and the Muses). So keep your hoochie, program your sodas and join Kristen, Matt and Joey in the Faerie Workshop to explore the magical, playful world of Tori Amos’ Silly Songs, where laughter and joy are an inevitability, and where a wide variety of artisanal baked goods are essential to the narrative.

MM playlist KK playlist JV playlist

S2E2 The 20 Best Tori Amos Songs

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:02:44 -0600

Tori Amos’ expansive body of work over the past 30-plus years has covered most musical terrain. From confessional outpourings of emotion, to thunderously-programmed electronic beats, blips and whirrs, to stinging guitar-driven diatribes directed at the religious Right, Tori has become known as both an architect and an adventurer, as well as a consummate player. She has transcended the “singer-songwriter” or “girl with a piano” labels once assigned to her to become one of the most important figures in contemporary popular music. With hundreds of beloved, canonical songs under her belt, it would be a fool’s errand to try and discern what Tori’s 20 best songs of all time are, right?

Well, friends, we are just crazy enough to try and grab that bull by the horns: On this episode, Kristen, Matt and Joey spend an enchanted evening testing their close knit friendship by voting with weighted, secret ballots that were cast to answer an impossible, eternal question: what are Tori Amos’ 20 BEST songs, ranked?

We’re trying out a several new things on this episode, starting with the concept: we dont usually do ranking here, we rearrange or reimagine our playlists, but this time we dare to count down to the greatest Tori Amos track of all-time. The results are a wild ride. We also typically make three separate playlists for each episode, but tonight we have focused our dark powers to vote on and create one collaborative playlist that we voted on anonymously. Kristen and Matt react to the list reveal in real time, making for a raucous discussion about what exactly constitutes “the best of Tori Amos”.

So please join us for a conversation that somehow miraculously doesn’t go off the rails and let us know in the comments what you think of our lil list…and also share your own! Remember, this is “best of” and not “favorite”. Good luck. 🙃

Group playlist available on Spotify!

S2E1 The Sticky Inner Hive of the Tori Amos B-sides & Non-Album Tracks

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Fri, 17 Jan 2025 04:44:00 -0600

On a storied, starry night in Nashville, in 2023, Tori Amos stopped what she was doing, and asked the audience if she should release a record full of unreleased songs. While we don’t yet have an exact answer on the fate of this project, it got us thinking: what existing songs would we add to our own personal B-sides & Non-album tracks playlists? The possibilities are infinite! In this new episode, Joey, Kristen, and Matt kick off the second season of their podcast chatting about some of their favorite redheaded singer-songwriter’s most sought-after compositions and the complex history behind songs that have truly stood the test of time just as much as some of the songs on her albums. We are now ‘Introverted But Willing To Discuss Tori Amos…’ (formerly known as Messing with the Master: Tori Amos), but our mission remains the same: sharing our thoughts and experiences gained from a close 20+ year friendship that began with a shared passion for Tori’s work. So join us as we delve into the significance of her B-sides and Non-album tracks, and discuss how these tracks often hold a special place in the hearts of fans, thanks to the magical, unique storytelling that accompanies them. Listen to our playlists here:

Listen to our playlists here: KK: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3sj1sXoE5855kThAx1f9Yp?si=b0940fd33d0c43f5

MM: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0L5iFktEcJ7MVrQ9CH8CNB?si=qYQ8Bqj6TymeHa3dUiYrDw&pi=u-0xtfRXDGSIuV

JV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL8uVQiRVdY&list=PLyU7AGxcKJ1PkR8sEGhTRUJ_D7aRhHyM4 YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmSZiNt44k0&list=PLyU7AGxcKJ1OucEMokJ40YRlrcQhC7fPT

Season 2 is here!

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Tue, 14 Jan 2025 00:01:43 -0600

We have a new name! Messing with the Master: Tori Amos is now Introverted But Willing To Discuss Tori Amos! Join us to talk about our favorite redhead 👩🏻‍🦰

S1E15 Make the Yuletide GayGayGayGayGay! Bonus holiday episode

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:41:26 -0600

It's a HOLIDAY (POSSE) BONUS! In this very special holiday episode of 'Messing With The Master', we delve into Tori Amos's holiday music across many decades, exploring her artistic evolution, personal memories of that amazing Midwinter Graces promo tour, and the significance of family in her work. We discuss the impact of Tori's upbringing and her respect for holiday traditions, while acknowledging that The Woman We Call Tori can rock the fuck out of anything, including Christmas music. Playlists: MM KK JV

S1E14 Boys for Pele / It’s Gotta Be Big (Super Sized Season Finale)

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Tue, 22 Oct 2024 16:15:58 -0500

In terms of narrative, composition and sheer scope as a record, Boys for Pele is one of the most audacious “pop” records to come out of the 1990s. Make no mistake: despite its twisty narrative, mysteriously confrontational lyrics and non-traditional take on song structure, Pele was a considerable mainstream success, selling more than 2 million copies worldwide and going platinum in the United States. Part harrowing journey into darkness and fury, part coming to terms with the aftermath of a shattered psyche, Boys for Pele might actually be the anti-pop record. Ironically, Tori’s biggest-selling single off the record (her biggest-selling single of all time), was a club mix of the Southern Gothic tale of madness and revenge “Professional Widow” that focuses on the lyric “it’s gotta be big.” Those who entered into this disorienting, often sinister world expecting a four on the floor rave were instead greeted by a smoky, deeply-complex rumination on one woman’s singular version of The Blues. The album finds Tori in a fugue descending into a hallucinatory abyss of anger, despair and confusion; the cathartic kind that evokes the wrenching neurotic pain of a genteel Blanche Dubois cracking in A Streetcar Named Desire. Its roots are distinctly rooted in the deeply soulful, deeply-odd South that might have been written about by Flannery O’Connor or filmed by D.W. Griffith, which is reflected in the choices made for the album’s artwork: Tori appears as the guardian of ghostly, forgotten children much like Lillian Gish does in the 1955 film The Night of the Hunter. All of these works are both branded with the red-hot iron of righteous Christianity and haunted by the foul-smelling sulfuric specter of the Devil himself. It is that unholy and unsettling bilocation and brilliant intertextuality that marks a true literary work of genius, artistic masterpiece, or any consummate objet d’art, all of which are applicable lenses through which to view an intimate, intricate, and positively harrowing work such as Boys for Pele. Categorization is futile, but the ways in which Pele can be read are staggering. Playlists: KK MM JV

S1E13 Night of Hunters / There Has Been a Shattering

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 01 Sep 2024 02:09:29 -0500

“I think the thing that just astounds me about Tori is that she can take a bit of something like a melody or harmonic sequence for some of these pieces that were the inspiration and create something truly her own, showing how truly powerful her own creative stamp is. I think of Night of Hunters as a 70-minute song with 30 pieces of music held together by 13 sets of interlocking lyrics. Now that’s composing! Tori was able to keep the narrative in my head at all times, very articulated and intricate. T would make sure I totally got it, explaining every facet and background info in just amazing detail. The story became flesh and blood, for me as it was for Tori. I have to confess that it was bliss working with T on Night of Hunters. We talked for at least one hundred hours about this record. The amount emotions and deliberations and ponderings and weighing was incredible. [This is] the most complex project I think I personally have worked on, from musical/dramatic perspective for sure, but what was evenheavier was the emotional investment — the dreams, the considerations of narrative. Every few bars mood changes slightly, very little is repeated. As far as style, and that would include harmonic choices and variations, melodies and variation, Tori has used this language since we first worked together. What has changed is her intensity, the refinement of this language, centering on the narrative. This , I think, is the driving force behind all of Tori”s music, and on this record for Deutsche Grammophon, she can use all of of her creativity, unbounded and without the restraint of ‘pop’ convention to make a extended multidimensional narrative, dramatic and compelling,and this includes her vocal and piano performances.” John Philip Shenale - Night of Hunters Composer, Arranger and Collaborator to Matt Mazur, 2011. Playlists: Joey Matty Kristen

S1E12 Strange Little Girls / Mommy Makeovers

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sat, 10 Aug 2024 10:49:01 -0500

With Strange Little Girls, Tori Amos approached the covers album as concept album, offering reinterpretations of 12 diverse male-authored tracks from the perspectives of an assortment of female characters. The project was inspired originally by by the homophobic and misogynistic messages which Amos believed to be prevalent in popular song at the beginning of the 21st century. “People were talking to me about how popular music was getting more violent,” she recalled in Piece by Piece. “Male songwriters were saying these really malicious things … and I really felt … that a generalized image of the antiwoman, antigay heterosexual man had hijacked Western male heterosexuality and brought it to the mediocrity of the moment.” The innovation of Strange Little Girls is to extend this debate into the realm of rock, and to recognise mainstream music as one of the primary cultural spheres in which gender roles get played out and patriarchal ideology disseminated. Supplemented by superb Cindy Sherman-inspired photography, the album is a rewarding and subversive work that boldly challenges the listener to reassess their relationship not only to each of these songs, but also to the wider cultural attitudes that they embody and endorse. “I wanted to complement the significance and scope of what she was doing. I felt like we were really in tune together, with what we were searching for,” recalled Adrian Belew, the project’s guitarist. “It was very comfortable working with her. I was surprised at the whole of the record [when I first heard it]. The songs I was unfamiliar with, in the context of what I had played, really changed the way I saw her as a producer and what she had envisioned. I frequently sign Strange Little Girls CDs, and the evidence is there that this record is important to people and they make the association between me and Tori and my contribution to the record. And then I realize they were probably turned onto me by Tori, and that’s an extraordinary thing for a musician to know. It is reflective of the community she builds in her work.” Playlists JV KK MM Songs of Tori Amos – Season 6 selections referenced in the episode New Age KK is team FOX JV and MM are team FUCKS. 97 Bonnie and Clyde

S1E11 Unrepentant Geraldines / Take Your Daughter to Work Day

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Mon, 22 Jul 2024 19:08:36 -0500

As she turned 50 in the spotlight, Tori Amos’ 2014 album Unrepentant Geraldines dropped and was greeted with headlines trumpeting the singer-songwriter’s “return to form” and “comeback”. But here’s the kicker: she never went anywhere. Although she had written a musical for the stage (The Light Princess, 2013), and composed a 21st century song cycle (Night of Hunters, 2011), Unrepentant Geraldines was Amos’ first record of entirely original compositions in five years, since Abnormally Attracted to Sin (2009). If that album found Amos floating above a palette of darkly-glowing synths and sultry beats, then Geraldines was firmly grounded in what many would deem the Amos “signature” sound: a foundation built around soulful, churchy organs, classical-complex pianoscapes, and pristinely-orchestrated vocal arrangements (exemplified on the single “Promise”, which prominently features her then-15 year old daughter Natashya). The romantic and lush album evokes and references other key moments in Amos’ catalog, while somehow possessing a distinct energy that distinguishes it as its own living, breathing experience. “Each song had to tell a story that you understood without needing to hear another song to make it make sense,” Tori told me at the time of the records release. “Although some of them are interconnected, the songs, but they needed to live on their own.” There’s no rigid adherence to any one specific style of music or instrumentation, no concept to be beholden to, and yes, while there are influences from past albums, Geraldines deploys them with fresh style and in an alchemic, organic way. The album possesses the kind of wildness of spirit that has always permeated Amos’ work, but here that oft-explosive vivacity is contained and refined on songs “16 Shades of Blue”, with it’s emotionally articulate swagger; and on the psychedelic sonic Fata Morgana of the title track. There is a noticeable confidence in the songs — in the writing, in the delivery, and in the bright verisimilitude of her compositional landscape. Also adventurous are her lyrical arrangements and vocal delivery. “I’ve told you many times: I sound like a fairy on crack. I know that! So you have to surrender to what your pipes are.” Please join Kristen, Matt and Joey as they tackle a pivotal moment in Tori’s discography and history. Messing With The Master: Unrepentant Geraldines is available wherever you check out podcasts. Playlists JV KK MM

S1E10 To Venus and Back / A Stroke of Venus

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 16:05:11 -0500

Content warning: this episode discusses pregnancy and child loss. Please take care while listening. On this week's episode, we book a round trip ticket To Venus and Back. Tori's surprisingly prompt follow -up to 1998's From the Choirgirl Hotel. After an epic world tour, Tori had implied that she'd be taking a break from recording for a while and planned to release a live album with a few new bonus tracks. As Tori's want to do, those bonus tracks developed into a full -blown 11 -track album with a bonus live disc that was released on September 21st, 1999, my 17th birthday. Thank you very much. To Venus and Back is deeply beloved by fans and for good reason. It shows Tori and her band, Matt Chamberlain on drums, Jon Evans on bass, and Steve Caton on guitars at the height of their ensemble powers, and Tori at her most sonically experimental. As Tori herself once instructed, if it's too loud, turn it up. And that's precisely what she does on To Venus and Back. The songs feel like an organic extension of the Choirgirl sound, but to say they sounded all similar to one another would be listener malpractice. Venus occupies a sonic space that is truly unlike anything Tori has done up to that point or has done since. The mixing, the engineering, the drum looping, the vocal distortions, the manipulation of the Bosendorfer, the introduction of new and strange synthesizer samples. Every singular moment is its own dynamic piece of a dark, twisty, truly otherworldly puzzle that Tori has constructed with this record. It's cliche to say it was ahead of its time in 1999, but given how fresh and bold and immersive it sounds in the year of Our Lord 2024, no one would argue that Tori truly wrote, performed, and produced a collection of songs that pushed not only her own boundaries, but the boundaries of her listeners. Perhaps Tori summed it up best herself in the lyric from Spring Haze when she instructs us that quote, the only way out is to go so far in. So join us as we break the terror of the urban spell. JV playlist KK playlist MM playlist

S1E9 American Doll Posse / Posse Popping and Wig Snatching

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:52:52 -0500

Ever feel like just being someone else? With the regal and roaring opus American Doll Posse, Tori Amos gave her listeners permission – and a psychic road map – to become the characters who hide in plain sight in all of our brains; even the “character” of ourselves. With healthy doses of showmanship and flamboyance, American Doll Posse saw Amos sonically embracing a towering, modern production style tinged with classic and country rock elements. No stranger to being a sonic character actress exploring roles, ADP’s real gag was stunningly Cindy Sherman-esque: Amos would manifest her characters in a new way, by literally becoming four distinct women who each represented aspects of her own personality. Enter Clyde, Isabel, Pip and Santa -aka the Posse. Taking a page from David Bowie’s glittery glam rock opera playbook, not only would Amos portray the characters in song and for the album’s still photography, she would also be portraying them -and performing as them- in full costume nightly at her live shows. 🤯🤯🤯 While she may have fully disappeared into each character, the moment you realize Tori Amos is also playing “Tori Amos” as a character in a sequined American Flag jumpsuit, the winking concept clicks, and every lighter in the arena goes up in the air. While each of the Posse gals gets their moment in the spotlight, the overall through line of the ambitious ADP is unity, strength in numbers, as five powerful women band together to deliver a ferociously righteous rock and roll sermon about how the patriarchy needs a good old-fashioned slap across the fucking face. Dontchu for-get to join Kristen, Matt and Joey to take a closer look at one of the most audacious records and eras of Tori’s career. Hold onto your wigs, and strap in tight for the wild ride of Messing With The Master, American Doll Posse. This one’s for the MILFs. JV playlist KK playlist MM playlist

S1E8 Ocean to Ocean / And Then, Still She Gave

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Fri, 24 May 2024 12:39:04 -0500

Content warning: this episode briefly discusses DV and suicide. Please take care while listening. “So what if you find you like to tango alone?" Tori Amos asks in the final moments of “Birthday Baby," the closing track of her 15th solo album Ocean to Ocean, released on October 21, 2021. An ode to the unexpected ways we collectively learned to both mourn and celebrate during the years-long isolation of the COVID-19 crisis, the song vacillates between a rousing eleven o'clock musical number and something a David Lynch character might sob inconsolably to while draped over a diner jukebox. This juxtaposition is the essence of Tori, who has been masterfully weaving the familiar, strange, tender, and unsettling for over 30 years. What immediately distinguished Ocean to Ocean upon release from Amos’ previous records, though, was its timeliness, an album written and recorded during the most hopeless heights of a global pandemic, released into a world that had barely begun to scratch the surface of its shared trauma. Never one to shy away from documenting her own emotional turbulence, Tori allowed Ocean to Ocean to wear its melancholy on its sleeve. It’s a record inspired and consumed by loss – loss of connection to others, loss of the self, loss of Tori's beloved mother Mary – and the process of trying to piece together both who we were before the storm and who we might become on the day after. The result is a tight, cohesive collection of songs that expertly articulates and somehow finds meaning in the deepest recesses of despair. Ocean to Ocean is ultimately both a technical triumph -- Tori recorded virtually from her home studio in Cornwall, England with longtime collaborators Matt Chamberlain, Jon Evans, and John Philip Shenale (quite literally oceans apart) -- and a triumph of the spirit, Tori finding the artistic and emotional strength to recontextualize a year of losses into a record of rebirth. So, stay with Joey, Kristen, and Matt as they unravel the gorgeous, generous fishing net that is Ocean to Ocean. "Get Out of that Pain," a conversation between Joey and Tori for BOMB magazine: https://bombmagazine.org/articles/2020/05/06/tori-amos-resistance Tiny Desk Concert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufUZu4h_m8 JV playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zhxFp9ESB5WH9YuWY4Rpe?si=bedb114b0215415e KK playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2rFV8OAbjkRUsAx1sXBrFc?si=2b8a0878dcf6471c MM playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3Cf1JxCjkBhExAKP5ug4IC?si=ae970433a23e4377

S1E7 Little Earthquakes / When Pianos Refused To Be Guitars

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 28 Apr 2024 18:11:33 -0500

Content warning: this episode discusses SA. Please take care while listening. Objectively speaking, Tori Amos’ Little Earthquakes is one of the all time great debut records. On the latest episode of Messing With The Master, Kristen, Matt and Joe lovingly look back and contextualize this seminal album, which laid down the foundation for the mythology of Tori and created a language all her own. The bracing new musical vocabulary of Little Earthquakes truly signaled the birth of a star. Very few– if any– albums from debut artists sustain the kind of power and resonance of Little Earthquakes. Amos dared to make the most private parts of her life public, infused them with poetry, gathered an army of fellow survivors, and created a genuine community that’s with her to this day. Crafting an origin story for the ages, Amos proved she understood the assignment and the stakes and caught a ride with the moon. The prom queen minister’s daughter next door made a modern rock record and became a star. It felt like we knew her and spoke the same language. Oh, these little earthquakes. Here we go again. It feels familiar because we’ve all been there. Tori took a major risk setting her diary to music, and verbalizing the verboten, but it’s one that continues to speak directly to the hearts of countless listeners, somehow, after all these years. Playlists: Joey Matt Kristen

S1E6 From the Choirgirl Hotel / Checkout Anytime, But You Can Never Leave

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sat, 13 Apr 2024 14:00:02 -0500

Content warning: this episode discusses child and pregnancy loss. Please take care while listening. Tori Amos’ blazing fourth album From The Choirgirl Hotel claims a rightful place amongst legendary music by contemporaries such as Madonna, PJ Harvey, Hole, Beck and many others who released similarly iconic work in 1998.At a career high point, Amos intuitively plugged in a full band to achieve the record’s signature space-rock atmosphere and conjured some of her most electric live shows to date. Yet, inexplicably, she still was forced to face down misogynistic criticism in all corners of the male-dominated world of music journalism, even as she soared. Rolling Stone -who gave the album a four star review- couldn’t resist referring to Amos as a “space cadet”, “overeducated”, and “unsisterly” in a surprisingly barbed cover story that manages to ungraciously spend a chunk of time castigating her for the “emotional incontinence” of her preceding album Boys for Pele.Despite great resistance and even greater odds, From the Choirgirl Hotel, with its passionate storytelling and audacious compositions, tapped directly into the flashpoint of an era of exploding musical styles. Amos, in slinky deconstructed gowns over jeans and bodysuits, walked away the victor: a powerful woman reinventing herself with each new project, charting high, selling big and adhering uncompromisingly to a vision of remaining herself. So please join Kristen, Matt and Joey for the midnight sale, it’s time to check in to the Choirgirl Hotel, a record that holds you at the bottom of the sea in total darkness before releasing you back into a luminously fragmented mirrorball galaxy of ‘Tori Amos’ mythology. FTCH Playlists: JV: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3viIVIonnfbX5ZOvcsOFiY?si=20c51797e2a74e41 KK: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/61zQq6ozghLTlDnWpekQmc?si=4b297c660a224c1f MM: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Wn2Cxi5uOZWee64nl4wOj?si=9fac68b767bf46ea

S1E5 The Beekeeper / TBK, TBH

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:12:10 -0500

In this episode, Joey, Kristen, and Matt discuss Tori Amos' 2005 album The Beekeper. They explore the intersection of The Beekeeper with Tori's book with Ann Powers, Piece by Piece, 2000s fashion, and Tori's last record with major record labels before her emancipation day. Joey shares his track listing, focusing on the theme of betrayal. Kristen shares her track listing, a modern take on the 3 Marys, and Matt's track list is inspired by the 1973 film Ash Wednesday, featuring Elizabeth Taylor where she plays a woman willing to get her man back by going to any length. Themes include European history, betrayal, and tumult. TBK playlists: Matt: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3gExMBT4WYGORuciSPucFP?si=aaa1703ca4e44bba Kristen: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1qX0Bskzx3qUkK8JosAg6U?si=6ff8f5413ba04d6d Joey: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3Ryi4xVLIENgEX8rbG2QfG?si=1376fe42683b4354 Other resources: DRIVE ALL NIGHT: THE SONGS OF TORI AMOS! The boys at DAN: SOTA just released an episode on 'New Age' in their 'Strange Little Girls' season. https://open.spotify.com/episode/1aQq6MbPYxKqVMHysbHIXH?si=e7e295d122d14caa

S1E4 Abnormally Attracted to Sin / A Beautiful Rich Woman Wandering in a K-hole

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 01:42:08 -0500

Content warning: brief discussions of suicide. Please take care while listening. In this episode, Joey, Kristen, and Matt discuss Tori Amos' 2009 album 'Abnormally Attracted to Sin'. They explore the background of the album, including Tori's independence from major record labels and her collaboration with John Philip Shenale. The hosts also discuss the playfulness and dark themes present in the album, as well as the influence of Tori's previous album 'American Doll Posse'. The hosts delve into the visualettes that accompanied the album and the alternate narratives they presented. They explore the idea of Tori as a character actress, the experimentation in the album, and the cinematic quality of the music. Joey shares his track listing, focusing on the theme of survival and the narrative of figuring out how to move forward. Kristen shares her track listing, centered around the theme of a woman unhinged and the journey of finding her place. Matt's track list is a film noir-inspired sonic masterpiece. Themes include Hollywood, mid-life crisis, and betrayal. AATS playlists: Matt Kristen Joey Other resources: Tori's Crazy in Love (Beyonce) with Crazy mashup recorded by Erin O'Neil (2014) PopMatters: Matt interviews Tori (2009) PopMatters: Joey on AATS (2012)

S1E3 Under the Pink / Tori Turned me Gay

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:48:14 -0600

On this week’s episode of Messing with the Master, Matt, Joey, and Kristen travel to a (sonic) desert garden in Taos, New Mexico, to explore Tori's sophomore album Under the Pink. Joey explains how Tori Amos turned him gay, Matt recalls how a Drag Queen at the Gold Coast brought Tori into his life, and Kristen discusses being emotionally unavailable as the Heterosexual-in-Residence. Themes of queer identity, womanhood, betrayal, and romance are explored. Under the Pink playlists: KK, JV, MM Find Messing with the Master on YouTube and Instagram (@messingwiththemaster)

S1E2 Native Invader / Ralph Nader Invader

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Thu, 15 Feb 2024 17:42:33 -0600

Content warning: This episode includes discussions of SA, DV, suicide. Take care while listening. On this week’s episode of Messing with the Master, Kristen, Matt and Joey unpack the mystical complexities of Tori Amos’ 2017 gem, Native Invader, which chillingly encapsulates the doomsday tensions of the era in an atmospheric sonic snapshot of the personal, the political and the otherworldly. The year prior to the album’s release saw Amos in full-fledged activist mode with her contribution to the Netflix documentary Audrie & Daisy - the soaring original song “Flicker” - making global headlines as she once again lent her voice to victims and survivors of sexual assault. Behind the scenes, Matt inexplicably found himself working alongside Tori as she laid the groundwork for one of the most timely and emotionally resonant records of her career - as his own life went from dream to nightmare. Native Invader playlists: KK, JV, MM Find Messing with the Master on YouTube and Instagram (@messingwiththemaster)

S1E1 Scarlet's Walk / Scarlet's Wok

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Sun, 04 Feb 2024 17:15:37 -0600

Three lifelong Tori Amos fans reflect on the iconic singer-songwriter’s catalog by thoughtfully and intentionally reorganizing each album into fresh playlists that explore Tori’s musical legacy as well their own interconnected personal narratives and friendship, which began with a shared passion for Tori’s music over 20 years ago. This week on the first episode of Messing with the Master, Joey, Kristen, and Matt are taking a sonic road trip across a post 9/11 America with one of Tori’s undisputed masterpieces, Scarlet’s Walk, which this past fall celebrated its 20th anniversary. Scarlet's Walk playlists: Joey | Kristen | Matt Find Messing with the Master on YouTube and Instagram (@messingwiththemaster)

Season 1 Preview: Episode 1 Scarlet's Walk

Kristen Keys, Matt Mazur, Joe Vallese — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 11:43:28 -0600

A quick preview of Joey, Matt, and Kristen discussing Scarlet's Walk. The first episode of Messing with the Master coming February 2024! :D