Together, they explore how masonry can play a critical role in addressing today's biggest building challenges—from wildfire resilience and energy efficiency to creative architectural design and long-term durability. They also discuss why stronger collaboration, better storytelling, and continued innovation will help position masonry as the material of choice for the next generation of construction.

In This Episode:

• How the California Masonry Council is advancing technical education, advocacy, and industry marketing
• Why masonry is uniquely positioned to meet today's demands for resilient and sustainable construction
• The role building codes and public policy play in shaping the future of the industry
• How architects and engineers can push the creative boundaries of masonry design
• Why wildfire resilience, durability, and long-term performance are becoming more important than ever
• The value of collaboration, mentorship, and knowledge sharing across the masonry community
• Why the industry must do a better job telling masonry's story to designers, owners, and the public

Connect with Emeka:
Website: https://www.californiamasonrycouncil.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckukaga

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

Chantelle also talks about the importance of collaboration, mentorship, and innovation in masonry, while highlighting the need for stronger industry storytelling around the value, versatility, and long-term benefits of masonry construction. This conversation offers a valuable perspective on how the industry can continue to grow and thrive.

In This Episode:

• Why apprenticeship programs are critical to the future of the masonry workforce
• The importance of recruiting younger generations into construction
• Creating opportunities for women to succeed in the masonry industry
• Why appreciation, mentorship, and leadership matter in retaining talent
• Why collaboration across contractors, designers, and industry organizations is essential
• How innovation and creativity can help expand the use of masonry materials
• The workforce challenges facing the industry and what organizations can do to address them

Connect with Chantelle: 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chantellemroberts?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Website: https://masonry-concepts.com/

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: 

https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In The Mix, Ben joins Adam live from the California Masonry Council Design & Expo to discuss the future of resilient construction, rebuilding after natural disasters, and the role masonry can play in creating stronger, more sustainable communities.

Drawing from his work supporting wildfire recovery efforts across California, Ben shares lessons learned from rebuilding after devastating fires, how communities can better prepare for future disasters, and why building materials must be evaluated through a long-term lens rather than short-term environmental metrics. He also explores the growing importance of embodied carbon, transparency in construction materials, and why the masonry industry has a unique opportunity to tell a stronger sustainability story.

In This Episode:

• How USGBC California is helping communities prepare for and recover from wildfires
• Lessons learned from rebuilding efforts after major California fire disasters
• Why resilience should be a central focus of modern building design
• The role masonry plays in durability, wildfire resistance, and long-term sustainability
• Common misconceptions about embodied carbon and environmental product declarations (EPDs)
• Why life-cycle thinking matters when evaluating building materials
• How the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics are driving conversations around low-carbon construction
• The importance of transparency, innovation, and data in the future of the building industry
• What the masonry industry can do to better communicate its sustainability advantages

Connect with Ben:
Website: https://usgbc-ca.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benstapleton

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In The Mix, Steve joins Adam to share how his perspective on masonry evolved throughout his career, what architects often overlook when specifying masonry systems, and why some of the industry's oldest building methods still offer some of the best solutions today.

From lessons learned in architecture school to insights gained through decades of real-world projects, Steve explains how masonry continues to deliver durability, resilience, energy efficiency, fire resistance, and long-term value. He also discusses common misconceptions, evolving wall system designs, and why education remains one of the biggest opportunities for the next generation of architects and engineers. 

In This Episode:

• Steve's journey from architect to masonry industry advocate
• Why masonry remains one of the most durable building materials available
• Common design misconceptions architects and engineers encounter
• How cavity wall systems have evolved over time
• The role of masonry in sustainability and carbon sequestration
• Lessons from historic masonry structures around the world
• Why education and industry collaboration matter for the future of design
• The hidden value masonry provides over a building's lifespan

In this episode of In The Mix, Adam sits down with Jordan Krebs of Sunset Stone to talk about the evolving world of manufactured stone veneer, masonry relationships, and what it really means to build a long-term career in the construction industry.

From the manufacturing process behind handcrafted stone veneer to the future of masonry in modern design-build construction, Jordan shares insights from both the sales side and the contractor side of the industry. The conversation explores everything from mortar technology and thermal mass to craftsmanship, workforce development, and why masonry continues to stand the test of time.

Adam and Jordan also reflect on their shared history in Spokane, the importance of relationship-building in construction, and how masonry products continue to shape communities for generations to come.

In this episode, we cover:

• Jordan’s journey into the masonry and hardscape industry through family connections and growing up around masonry products 
• What makes Sunset Stone unique in the manufactured stone veneer market 
• Why relationships and long-term trust matter more than “selling” in the construction industry 
• How design-build delivery is changing the way masonry products are specified on projects 
• The importance of craftsmanship, apprenticeship, and bringing younger generations into the masonry trades 
• How masonry projects can revitalize communities and create buildings designed to last for generations 

About the Guest:

Jordan Krebs is a sales representative for Sunset Stone in the Pacific Northwest, specializing in manufactured stone veneer systems and masonry products. With a background in hardscapes, dry cast products, and masonry materials, Jordan brings a relationship-focused approach to the construction industry, working closely with contractors, architects, distributors, and builders throughout the region. Passionate about craftsmanship, long-term building performance, and the future of the trades, Jordan is dedicated to helping projects succeed through collaboration, technical knowledge, and practical industry experience.

Connect with Jordan: 

Website: https://sunsetstone.net/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-krebs-82074a30a

https://www.linkedin.com/company/sunset-stone-llc?trk=public_profile_topcard-current-company

 
Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In the Mix, Adam sits down with Benjamin Warfield of Warfield Masonry to talk about family legacy, entrepreneurship, apprenticeship, and the mindset required to survive and grow in the construction industry for nearly 25 years.

From growing up on masonry job sites with his father to launching his own company at 27 during the 2008 market crash, Ben shares the real story behind building Warfield Masonry into one of the Pacific Northwest’s most respected masonry contractors. The conversation dives into leadership, risk-taking, union partnerships, mentorship, marketing, design-build collaboration, and why relationships are the foundation of long-term success in construction.

Along the way, Adam and Ben also discuss podcasting, snowboarding, faith, personal growth, and the importance of investing time into both people and craft.

In this episode:

•  How Warfield Masonry started as a family business in 1977 
•  Ben’s journey from residential masonry into commercial construction 
•  What the 2008 recession taught him about resilience and business 
•  The importance of networking, relationships, and long sales cycles 
•  Why joining the union changed the trajectory of the company 
•  Lessons learned about leadership, apprenticeship, and company culture 
•  The role of marketing and personal branding in construction 
•  How collaboration and design-build improve project outcomes 
•  Ben’s “5 things” every mason and contractor should know 
•  Why mentorship, honesty, and investing in people matter most 

About the Guest:
Benjamin Warfield is the owner of Warfield Masonry, a Washington-based masonry contractor specializing in commercial, residential, and architectural masonry projects throughout the Pacific Northwest. Raised in the trade from a young age, Ben has spent decades building his expertise in masonry construction, business leadership, and workforce development. He is a passionate advocate for apprenticeship, union craftsmanship, design-build collaboration, and advancing the masonry industry through education, relationships, and mentorship.

Connect with Ben:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/warfield_masonry_llc/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-warfield-78503b16

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In the Mix, Adam sits down with John Gallup formerly a representative of Laticrete, now with HydroBlok, to break down the evolution of adhered veneer masonry, the science behind modern installation systems, and the code changes reshaping the industry.

From polymer-modified mortars and waterproofing assemblies to seismic shake-table testing at Portland State University, John shares how innovation, testing, and collaboration are helping architects, contractors, and engineers build smarter and more sustainably.

This conversation dives deep into the technical side of masonry systems while also exploring the real-world challenges of labor, climate, moisture management, and long-term durability in the Pacific Northwest. 

In this episode, we cover:

•  John’s journey into the construction and masonry industry through Laticrete
•  What Laticrete actually does—and how the company evolved from tile systems into masonry veneer systems 
•  How the Pacific Northwest climate creates unique moisture and freeze-thaw challenges 
•  Why fluid-applied waterproofing membranes are becoming essential in modern systems 
•  Inside the seismic testing initiative conducted at Portland State University 
•  The biggest advantages of thin veneer systems compared to traditional full-bed masonry 
•  Where masonry materials, chemistry, and installation technology are headed next 

About the Guest
John Gallup is a Technical Sales Representative for Laticrete, specializing in tile, stone, and adhered veneer masonry systems throughout Oregon and the Pacific Northwest. With extensive experience working alongside architects, contractors, distributors, and industry organizations, John has played a key role in advancing modern masonry veneer systems, code development, and seismic testing initiatives in the region. He is deeply involved in industry advocacy, education, and helping drive innovation in high-performance masonry assemblies.

Connect with John:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-gallup-9a719419
https://www.laticrete.com/
https://www.hydroblok.com/

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

What started as a conversation at a Mariners game turned into a deeper discussion around building smarter, faster, and more resilient multifamily projects. Alex shares how this proposed “wood/block” system could open new possibilities for architects, engineers, and developers navigating today’s housing and construction challenges.

The conversation explores Type IV-C construction, seismic design considerations, fire resistance, scheduling efficiencies, and why this hybrid approach could create opportunities for both the masonry and mass timber industries moving forward.

In this episode:

• The origin of the “wood/block” CMU + CLT concept
• Why Type IV-C construction matters for multifamily housing
• How CMU and mass timber can work together structurally
• The hidden challenges of podium construction
• Seismic, fire-rating, and code considerations
• Why this approach could improve project timelines and efficiency
• The bigger vision for hybrid construction systems

About the Guest:
Alex Watchman is a licensed architect in Washington and a graduate of the University of Minnesota and Harvard Graduate School of Design. As part of Clark Barnes Architects in Seattle, Alex focuses on innovative approaches to resilient, efficient, and scalable building systems. His current research explores how CMU and mass timber can work together to unlock new possibilities in mid-rise multifamily housing design.

Connect with Alex:
Website: https://www.clarkbarnes.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-watchman-71570686

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode, we cover:

•  Lowell’s powerful origin story—and the moment that changed everything 
•  How Job Corps led him into bricklaying (and why there was no waiting list) 
•  What it really takes to rise through the ranks without industry connections 
•  The mindset that carried him from apprentice to union president 
•  Inside BAC Local 1: structure, scale, and day-to-day operations 
•  The biggest challenges facing unions—and how they’re evolving 
•  Breaking down the earning potential and benefits of apprenticeship programs 
•  Why “earn while you learn” is one of the most overlooked opportunities today 
•  How the Level Up campaign is attracting a younger generation to the trades 
•  The importance of mentorship, visibility, and proving yourself through action 
•  What true success looks like beyond the job—balancing leadership and family 
•  Where the masonry industry is headed across Washington and Alaska 

About the Guest
Lowell Glodowski is the President of BAC Local 1, representing Bricklayers and Allied Craftworkers across Washington and Alaska. With nearly three decades in the industry, Lowell’s journey spans from apprentice to business owner to union leader. Known for his no-excuses mindset and commitment to workforce development, he plays a key role in advancing training, recruitment, and long-term opportunity within the masonry trades.

How to Connect & Learn More
 If you or someone you know is interested in exploring a career in the masonry trades, here’s how to get started:

• Visit the training center: Reach out to the Western Washington Masonry Trades program to schedule a tour and learn more about available pathways 
• Contact the team directly: Connect with program administrators for guidance on next steps and application requirements 
• Apply online: Head to the Level Up campaign website to submit an application and explore opportunities 
• Phone: 206-768-8333 

Taking that first step—whether it’s a conversation, a tour, or an application—could open the door to a high-growth, high-opportunity career path in the trades.

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In the Mix, Adam sits down with Ron Adams, President of Cascade Construction and the Washington State Conference of Mason Contractors, to unpack the past, present, and future of the masonry industry—and what it will take to rebuild momentum.

From family legacy to industry leadership, Ron shares how masonry has evolved over the decades, why demand has shifted, and where the biggest opportunities lie right now.

This conversation goes beyond surface-level insights. It dives into the real challenges contractors, architects, and engineers face—and how collaboration, education, and smarter building strategies can bring masonry back to the forefront.

In this episode, we cover:

• How Ron Adams built his career in masonry—and the legacy behind it
• The surprising decline from 6 billion to 1 billion blocks per year
• Why masonry is often replaced (and why that assumption may be wrong)
• The efficiency myth: Is masonry actually slower and more expensive?
• How progressive design-build is changing construction collaboration
• The role of the MCAA and CMU checkoff program in shaping the industry
• Why architects and engineers need better masonry education
• The truth about energy efficiency, sustainability, and thermal performance
• How events like the Bricklayer 500 and Bricklayer 5,000 are reshaping industry culture
• What contractors can do right now to create more opportunities

Connect with Ron: https://cascademasonry.com

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

In this episode of In The Mix, Adam sits down with Jed Olafson, President of the Northwest Masonry Institute and co-owner of Johnston Construction, to talk about a career that started in drafting and turned into decades of leadership in the field.

Jed shares how he got his start designing panelized systems, working back when everything was drawn by hand, and how that technical foundation shaped the way he approaches masonry today. From early AutoCAD adoption to coordinating complex panel systems, his experience shows how good planning leads to better builds. 

This conversation gets into the real side of the industry—how projects actually come together, what works, and what doesn’t. 

In this episode:

• How panelized masonry systems improve efficiency and reduce jobsite complexity
• Why drafting and pre-planning still matter more than people think
• The transition from one generation of leadership to the next—and what it takes to make it work
• How family businesses continue to shape the industry
• Where masonry stands today against competing materials

Connect with Jed: https://johnstonconstruction.net/about

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix

Hosted by Adam Hutchinson, Executive Director of the Northwest Masonry Institute and a licensed engineer in Washington, this podcast explores the real-world impact of masonry construction on modern building design.

Each week, Adam sits down with architects, structural engineers, contractors, and building owners to break down how masonry—including brick, block, and stone—supports resilient design, seismic performance, fire resistance, and long-lasting construction.

From commercial construction projects to sustainable building materials, In the Mix covers the strategies, innovations, and challenges shaping the future of the built environment. Whether you're designing structures, managing projects, or specifying materials, you’ll gain practical insights you can actually apply.

If you’re interested in masonry design, construction methods, building durability, and high-performance materials, this show will help you build smarter and more effectively.

Learn more about the Northwest Masonry Institute: https://masonryinstitute.com/in-the-mix