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    <description>Gritty Bits is the companion show to Travel Grit — more from the world of legendary travelers who move by hoof, sail, and boot. Catch Q&amp;A sessions with long riders, sailors, and adventurers. Check in on past guests with Where Are They Now. And pick up hard-won practical knowledge in Three Things You Need to Know — straight from the people who've lived it. For more stories of long riders, sailors, ramblers, adventurers, and dreamers finding their way, visit TravelGrit.com.</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sea G Ryhdr is planning something that keeps her up at night — driving a covered wagon across America with two spicy ponies, a corgi named Thick, and a whole lot of questions. In this Q&amp;A, Bernie Harberts answers the ones that matter most before she takes off.</p><p>Sea G is an experienced long rider who has covered thousands of miles on horseback. Now she's stepping up to a nine-and-a-half foot covered wagon pulled by a team of Welsh ponies — and she wants to know what she doesn't know.</p><p>Bernie covers the real-world wagon travel skills that don't show up in books — from navigating cattle guards with no gate to teaching ponies to hold a wagon back going downhill, managing a corgi on the road, and if (or if not) a traveling horse needs to wear a diaper in town.</p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><p>How to get a wagon through a gate when the reins aren't long enough</p><p>Getting across a cattle guard uphill — with and without a gate</p><p>What to do when the gate is padlocked</p><p>Tying up at a grocery store — and what can go wrong</p><p>Check reins — why Bernie doesn't use them</p><p>How long to work with horses before departure</p><p>Breastplate versus collar — friction, calluses, and show sheen</p><p>Short first days — why two miles is enough</p><p>Trotting versus walking — the pre-flight routine</p><p>Voice commands for driving</p><p>Walking next to a team versus riding in the wagon</p><p>Teaching ponies to hold a wagon back going downhill</p><p>Backing a wagon without teaching your horse to rear</p><p>Manure management on the road</p><p>Traveling with a corgi — harnesses, safety, and Angela Wood's advice</p><p><strong>Want the full Travel Grit conversation with Sea G Ryhdr?</strong> <a href="https://travelgrit.com/how-to-drive-a-wagon-through-america-what-you-need-to-know-before-you-go/">https://travelgrit.com/how-to-drive-a-wagon-through-america-what-you-need-to-know-before-you-go/</a><br>Follow Sea's upcoming wagon voyage at <a href="https://freerangerodeo.com/">https://freerangerodeo.com/</a>.</p><p>For more stories of long riders, sailors, ramblers, adventurers, and dreamers finding their way, visit <a href="https://travelgrit.com/">TravelGrit.com</a>.</p><p><a href="https://share.transistor.fm/s/a2394efa/transcript" title="Click here to view the episode transcript.">Click here to view the episode transcript.</a><br>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sea G Ryhdr is planning something that keeps her up at night — driving a covered wagon across America with two spicy ponies, a corgi named Thick, and a whole lot of questions. In this Q&amp;A, Bernie Harberts answers the ones that matter most before she takes off.</p><p>Sea G is an experienced long rider who has covered thousands of miles on horseback. Now she's stepping up to a nine-and-a-half foot covered wagon pulled by a team of Welsh ponies — and she wants to know what she doesn't know.</p><p>Bernie covers the real-world wagon travel skills that don't show up in books — from navigating cattle guards with no gate to teaching ponies to hold a wagon back going downhill, managing a corgi on the road, and if (or if not) a traveling horse needs to wear a diaper in town.</p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><p>How to get a wagon through a gate when the reins aren't long enough</p><p>Getting across a cattle guard uphill — with and without a gate</p><p>What to do when the gate is padlocked</p><p>Tying up at a grocery store — and what can go wrong</p><p>Check reins — why Bernie doesn't use them</p><p>How long to work with horses before departure</p><p>Breastplate versus collar — friction, calluses, and show sheen</p><p>Short first days — why two miles is enough</p><p>Trotting versus walking — the pre-flight routine</p><p>Voice commands for driving</p><p>Walking next to a team versus riding in the wagon</p><p>Teaching ponies to hold a wagon back going downhill</p><p>Backing a wagon without teaching your horse to rear</p><p>Manure management on the road</p><p>Traveling with a corgi — harnesses, safety, and Angela Wood's advice</p><p><strong>Want the full Travel Grit conversation with Sea G Ryhdr?</strong> <a href="https://travelgrit.com/how-to-drive-a-wagon-through-america-what-you-need-to-know-before-you-go/">https://travelgrit.com/how-to-drive-a-wagon-through-america-what-you-need-to-know-before-you-go/</a><br>Follow Sea's upcoming wagon voyage at <a href="https://freerangerodeo.com/">https://freerangerodeo.com/</a>.</p><p>For more stories of long riders, sailors, ramblers, adventurers, and dreamers finding their way, visit <a href="https://travelgrit.com/">TravelGrit.com</a>.</p><p><a href="https://share.transistor.fm/s/a2394efa/transcript" title="Click here to view the episode transcript.">Click here to view the episode transcript.</a><br>
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 <br><strong>Creators &amp; Guests</strong>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Gin Szagola and her Snowy Mountain Brumby, Fable, are one month from the finish line — 2,400 miles into their historic crossing of southern Australia. In this Where Are They Now check-in, Gin calls in from the small town of Ravensthorpe, Western Australia, with one month and 300 miles left to go.</p><p>Gin shares what it's really like in the final stretch — how Fable has transformed from a scrawny, spooky rescue into a confident, muscled trail horse, how the dreaded Nullarbor Desert turned out to be her favorite part of the journey, and why finishing a voyage this big is becoming bittersweet.</p><p>She also talks about the hardest part of it all — having to give up Fable when it's over.</p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><p>Fable's origin — one of a thousand Brumbies to survive the culling of 8,000 horses in three years</p><p>Training a wild horse in 90 days with 10 to 20 rides before departure</p><p>The Nullarbor crossing — 800 miles of desert, no support vehicle, supply caches dropped by gray nomads every 20 miles</p><p>Brown snakes, dingoes, road trains, and camping on the side of the highway alone as a woman</p><p>The coworker-to-roommate dynamic of living with your horse 24/7 for eight months</p><p>What happens to Fable when the journey ends</p><p><strong>Want the full story?</strong> Listen to Gin's complete Travel Grit podcast episode at: <a href="https://travelgrit.com/gin-szagola-riding-a-horse-across-australia-travel-grit-podcast/">https://travelgrit.com/gin-szagola-riding-a-horse-across-australia-travel-grit-podcast/</a></p><p><strong>Follow Gin and Fable:</strong> Facebook: Gin and Fable Website: ginandfable.com</p><p><strong>Description</strong></p><p>Gin Szagola is one month from finishing her historic crossing of southern Australia — 2,400 miles on horseback with a wild Brumby she trained in just 90 days. In this Where Are They Now check-in, Gin calls in from Western Australia with 300 miles left to go. She talks about the Nullarbor Desert, life on the road with Fable, and the bittersweet reality of nearly being done.</p><p>For more stories of long riders, sailors, ramblers, adventurers, and dreamers finding their way, visit TravelGrit.com.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVPPL562tyM" title="Click here to watch a video of this episode.">Click here to watch a video of this episode.</a><br>
<a href="https://share.transistor.fm/s/6c7204e4/transcript" title="Click here to view the episode transcript.">Click here to view the episode transcript.</a><br>
<strong>Creators &amp; Guests</strong>
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  <li>Gin Szagola - Guest</li>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Gin Szagola and her Snowy Mountain Brumby, Fable, are one month from the finish line — 2,400 miles into their historic crossing of southern Australia. In this Where Are They Now check-in, Gin calls in from the small town of Ravensthorpe, Western Australia, with one month and 300 miles left to go.</p><p>Gin shares what it's really like in the final stretch — how Fable has transformed from a scrawny, spooky rescue into a confident, muscled trail horse, how the dreaded Nullarbor Desert turned out to be her favorite part of the journey, and why finishing a voyage this big is becoming bittersweet.</p><p>She also talks about the hardest part of it all — having to give up Fable when it's over.</p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><p>Fable's origin — one of a thousand Brumbies to survive the culling of 8,000 horses in three years</p><p>Training a wild horse in 90 days with 10 to 20 rides before departure</p><p>The Nullarbor crossing — 800 miles of desert, no support vehicle, supply caches dropped by gray nomads every 20 miles</p><p>Brown snakes, dingoes, road trains, and camping on the side of the highway alone as a woman</p><p>The coworker-to-roommate dynamic of living with your horse 24/7 for eight months</p><p>What happens to Fable when the journey ends</p><p><strong>Want the full story?</strong> Listen to Gin's complete Travel Grit podcast episode at: <a href="https://travelgrit.com/gin-szagola-riding-a-horse-across-australia-travel-grit-podcast/">https://travelgrit.com/gin-szagola-riding-a-horse-across-australia-travel-grit-podcast/</a></p><p><strong>Follow Gin and Fable:</strong> Facebook: Gin and Fable Website: ginandfable.com</p><p><strong>Description</strong></p><p>Gin Szagola is one month from finishing her historic crossing of southern Australia — 2,400 miles on horseback with a wild Brumby she trained in just 90 days. In this Where Are They Now check-in, Gin calls in from Western Australia with 300 miles left to go. She talks about the Nullarbor Desert, life on the road with Fable, and the bittersweet reality of nearly being done.</p><p>For more stories of long riders, sailors, ramblers, adventurers, and dreamers finding their way, visit TravelGrit.com.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVPPL562tyM" title="Click here to watch a video of this episode.">Click here to watch a video of this episode.</a><br>
<a href="https://share.transistor.fm/s/6c7204e4/transcript" title="Click here to view the episode transcript.">Click here to view the episode transcript.</a><br>
<strong>Creators &amp; Guests</strong>
</p><ul>
  <li>Gin Szagola - Guest</li>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 11:26:15 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>with Bernie Harberts</author>
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      <itunes:author>with Bernie Harberts</itunes:author>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>Gin Szagola and her Snowy Mountain Brumby, Fable, are one month from the finish line — 2,400 miles into their historic crossing of southern Australia. In this Where Are They Now check-in, Gin calls in from the small town of Ravensthorpe, Western Australia, with one month and 300 miles left to go.</p><p>Gin shares what it's really like in the final stretch — how Fable has transformed from a scrawny, spooky rescue into a confident, muscled trail horse, how the dreaded Nullarbor Desert turned out to be her favorite part of the journey, and why finishing a voyage this big is becoming bittersweet.</p><p>She also talks about the hardest part of it all — having to give up Fable when it's over.</p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><p>Fable's origin — one of a thousand Brumbies to survive the culling of 8,000 horses in three years</p><p>Training a wild horse in 90 days with 10 to 20 rides before departure</p><p>The Nullarbor crossing — 800 miles of desert, no support vehicle, supply caches dropped by gray nomads every 20 miles</p><p>Brown snakes, dingoes, road trains, and camping on the side of the highway alone as a woman</p><p>The coworker-to-roommate dynamic of living with your horse 24/7 for eight months</p><p>What happens to Fable when the journey ends</p><p><strong>Want the full story?</strong> Listen to Gin's complete Travel Grit podcast episode at: <a href="https://travelgrit.com/gin-szagola-riding-a-horse-across-australia-travel-grit-podcast/">https://travelgrit.com/gin-szagola-riding-a-horse-across-australia-travel-grit-podcast/</a></p><p><strong>Follow Gin and Fable:</strong> Facebook: Gin and Fable Website: ginandfable.com</p><p><strong>Description</strong></p><p>Gin Szagola is one month from finishing her historic crossing of southern Australia — 2,400 miles on horseback with a wild Brumby she trained in just 90 days. In this Where Are They Now check-in, Gin calls in from Western Australia with 300 miles left to go. She talks about the Nullarbor Desert, life on the road with Fable, and the bittersweet reality of nearly being done.</p><p>For more stories of long riders, sailors, ramblers, adventurers, and dreamers finding their way, visit TravelGrit.com.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVPPL562tyM" title="Click here to watch a video of this episode.">Click here to watch a video of this episode.</a><br>
<a href="https://share.transistor.fm/s/6c7204e4/transcript" title="Click here to view the episode transcript.">Click here to view the episode transcript.</a><br>
<strong>Creators &amp; Guests</strong>
</p><ul>
  <li>Gin Szagola - Guest</li>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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