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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:14:52 -0400</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2021 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:53:31 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Traditional "Crime &amp;amp; Punishment" models of safety tend to disengage workers. Mike discusses the largest and most statistically valid study ever conducted on employee engagement and motivation. Creating a safety culture based on the top 4 motivators will transform your organization.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>33</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title> NFPA 70E-2021 and Human Performance </itunes:title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2021 11:58:08 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>One mistake can get you killed in electrical work. NFPA 70E - 2021 addresses Human Performance. Mike and Pam discuss how errors occur in electrical work and how following HP principles help to not only reduce the potential but save lives.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>32</podcast:episode>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 09:21:06 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>3430</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Pam talks with Sam Socolow and Philip Greisen about the challenges of managing rigging, with the understanding that all riggers, no matter how experienced or qualified, will eventually make mistakes.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Winter Is Coming</title>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>31</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com<br>Speakers include:<br>Lisa Capacik, CSP, Brasfield &amp; Gorrie<br>Nicole Ivers, CSP/CIH, Batson Cook<br>Hilarie Warren, CIH, MPH, Georgia Tech</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com<br>Speakers include:<br>Lisa Capacik, CSP, Brasfield &amp; Gorrie<br>Nicole Ivers, CSP/CIH, Batson Cook<br>Hilarie Warren, CIH, MPH, Georgia Tech</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2020 10:52:47 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:duration>3820</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam talks to Lisa Capacik, Nicole Ivers and Hilarie Warren about the current status of COVID 19 in the workplace. We talk about the challenges of travel during the holidays, COVID fatigue and increasing issues with worker stress and anxiety.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam talks to Lisa Capacik, Nicole Ivers and Hilarie Warren about the current status of COVID 19 in the workplace. We talk about the challenges of travel during the holidays, COVID fatigue and increasing issues with worker stress and anxiety.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
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      <title>Safety Stand Downs Are Stupid</title>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>30</podcast:episode>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2020 11:46:25 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>752</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam talks about how some safety Stand Downs are pretty stupid. However, they can be a great way to bridge the communication gap between management and workers. Some suggestions for improving your process are discussed.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam talks about how some safety Stand Downs are pretty stupid. However, they can be a great way to bridge the communication gap between management and workers. Some suggestions for improving your process are discussed.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Complacency Is A Cop-out</title>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>29</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Complacency Is A Cop-out</itunes:title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>750</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam discusses the unfortunate default language, i.e. "complacency" and "failure to pay attention", often used post event. Use of these terms indicate a lack of understanding of human performance principles and does not offer value in event analysis.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam discusses the unfortunate default language, i.e. "complacency" and "failure to pay attention", often used post event. Use of these terms indicate a lack of understanding of human performance principles and does not offer value in event analysis.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>The Gorilla in the Room</title>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>28</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Gorilla in the Room</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Culpability is the gorilla in the room for most managers trying to understand Human Performance (or The New View of Safety). For decades organizations have managed safety under a model of "crime &amp; punishment". This paradigm is so prevalent that many have a difficult time getting their minds around the fact that not everything is a "safety crime". This podcast will help sort out the differences between what is punishable and what is not.</p><p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Culpability is the gorilla in the room for most managers trying to understand Human Performance (or The New View of Safety). For decades organizations have managed safety under a model of "crime &amp; punishment". This paradigm is so prevalent that many have a difficult time getting their minds around the fact that not everything is a "safety crime". This podcast will help sort out the differences between what is punishable and what is not.</p><p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:42:02 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Culpability is the gorilla in the room for most managers trying to understand Human Performance (or The New View of Safety). Mike will discuss a Human Performance approach to fair and balanced accountability.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Culpability is the gorilla in the room for most managers trying to understand Human Performance (or The New View of Safety). Mike will discuss a Human Performance approach to fair and balanced accountability.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>A Piece of Paper Never Saved a Life</title>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>27</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>A Piece of Paper Never Saved a Life</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:00:57 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Pam discusses our over reliance on paper for managing safety, especially after an event. 
Knee jerk reactions to creating procedures typically result in more complicated and unworkable procedures, particularly when done without worker involvement.</itunes:summary>
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Knee jerk reactions to creating procedures typically result in more complicated and unworkable procedures, particularly when done without worker involvement.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Interview with David Lynn, President of Peak Safety Performance</title>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>26</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Interview with David Lynn, President of Peak Safety Performance</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>2773</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Mike conducts an interview with David Lynn, President of Peak Safety Performance in Greenville, SC. David's company provides safety performance improvement services including leadership development and human performance.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mike conducts an interview with David Lynn, President of Peak Safety Performance in Greenville, SC. David's company provides safety performance improvement services including leadership development and human performance.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>The Deming Factor</title>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>25</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Deming Factor</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[Mike discusses the landmark contributions of W. Edwards Deming to quality improvement and how those principles mirror Human Performance or The New View of safety.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Mike discusses the landmark contributions of W. Edwards Deming to quality improvement and how those principles mirror Human Performance or The New View of safety.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:37:42 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>1024</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Mike discusses the landmark contributions of W. Edwards Deming to quality improvement and how those principles mirror Human Performance or The New View of safety.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mike discusses the landmark contributions of W. Edwards Deming to quality improvement and how those principles mirror Human Performance or The New View of safety.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>The Robins and Morton Journey - Interview with Jeff Palombo</title>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>24</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Robins and Morton Journey - Interview with Jeff Palombo</itunes:title>
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      <link>https://share.transistor.fm/s/74f9d0d5</link>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>3359</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Robins and Morton has experienced an amazing culture transformation over the past several years. Jeff Palombo, Vice President of Safety Operations discusses their journey from culture assessment to Human Performance.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Robins and Morton has experienced an amazing culture transformation over the past several years. Jeff Palombo, Vice President of Safety Operations discusses their journey from culture assessment to Human Performance.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Science-Based Safety and COVID-19</title>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>23</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[Pam discusses the clash between science and politics in the midst of the COVID-19 crisis in contrast to the 1918 pandemic.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2020 14:55:08 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>569</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam discusses the clash between science and politics in the midst of the COVID-19 crisis in contrast to the 1918 pandemic.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam discusses the clash between science and politics in the midst of the COVID-19 crisis in contrast to the 1918 pandemic.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>The Power of Vision</title>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>22</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Power of Vision</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2020 14:02:29 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:duration>1603</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>One of the most underestimated yet most important requirement for sustainable culture change is a powerful and compelling vision. Mike discusses how a great vision motivates the workforce to help achieve an organization's desired future state.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>One of the most underestimated yet most important requirement for sustainable culture change is a powerful and compelling vision. Mike discusses how a great vision motivates the workforce to help achieve an organization's desired future state.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Information is the Lifeblood of Your Safety Culture</title>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>21</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Information is the Lifeblood of Your Safety Culture</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</itunes:author>
      <itunes:duration>2695</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam talks to Nicole Ivers about the importance of reporting and some of the barriers to reporting.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam talks to Nicole Ivers about the importance of reporting and some of the barriers to reporting.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Stuck in the Nineties</title>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>20</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Stuck in the Nineties</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>www.prosafesolutions.com</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Inspired by Jeff Foxworthy's "You Might Be A Redneck", Mike discusses several ways you can tell if your safety process is behind the times.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:summary>Mike interviews Philip Greisen, Certified John Maxwell Leadership Trainer. Leadership is crucial to the development of an effective safety culture. Philip discusses what true leadership is all about, how organizations can develop leadership among its managers and supervisors, and it's impact on sustaining the Human Performance operating philosophy.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>10</podcast:episode>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Mike McCarroll provides an overview of the six principles of Human Performance. He discusses how these principles frame the operating philosophy and help guide the organizational behavior necessary for success.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Risk Perception In A COVID-19 World</title>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Mike and Pam discuss the New View of Human Performance and how it differs significantly from old view thinking. They discuss how HP is a game-changer in terms of organizational performance improvement.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Part II COVID-19 Managing Construction Exposures</title>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>15</podcast:episode>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:duration>2787</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam continues her discussion on managing COVID-19 exposures in construction.
Special guests include Lisa Capacik, CHST, CSP with Brasfield &amp;amp; Gorrie and Nicole Ivers, CIH, CSP, CMIOSH with Batson-Cook.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam continues her discussion on managing COVID-19 exposures in construction.
Special guests include Lisa Capacik, CHST, CSP with Brasfield &amp;amp; Gorrie and Nicole Ivers, CIH, CSP, CMIOSH with Batson-Cook.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>The Inevitable Drift - Special Covid-19 Edition</title>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>14</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Inevitable Drift - Special Covid-19 Edition</itunes:title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:duration>601</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Mike and Pam talk about organizational drift in light of the COVID-19 crisis.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mike and Pam talk about organizational drift in light of the COVID-19 crisis.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords>human error, human performance, safety</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>What Workers Say - Part 1</title>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>8</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>What Workers Say - Part 1</itunes:title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:duration>1212</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Pam and Mike talk about the actual comments worker's make about safety during culture assessment focus group interviews. </itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>COVID-19 managing exposures in construction </title>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>13</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>COVID-19 managing exposures in construction </itunes:title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>3195</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this Special Edition episode, Pam talks with industry experts in construction safety and health about how to manage COVID-19 exposures while doing essential construction. This podcast is from a videocast by the same title, available on YouTube.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>7</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>Stop The Insanity About OSHA Recordable Rates</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Mike and Pam discuss the concept of resilience both on an organizational and personal level and the link to the current COVID-19 situation.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2020 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Pam expresses her frustrations regarding safety folks who do not represent our profession and do harm to perceptions of safety.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode Mike discusses the field of human performance, or the New View of safety.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2020 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:summary>Pam talks about her frustrations with people blaming workers for not "buying into" safety when the real issue lies within the management system and failure of leadership.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pam talks about her frustrations with people blaming workers for not "buying into" safety when the real issue lies within the management system and failure of leadership.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2020 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Mike McCarroll &amp; Pamela Fisher</author>
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      <itunes:summary>Mike McCarroll discusses how zero incident goals lead organizations down a path of failure. He discusses why zero cannot be an effective goal and how managers lose credibility in the eyes of workers when using it. This concept is fundamental to beginning the journey towards the new view of human performance.</itunes:summary>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>This episode is an introduction to our new podcast "Get REAL About Safety". Pam and Mike discuss their backgrounds, experiences and the journey they have been on towards a new view of safety. The new view recognizes all humans make errors and that focusing on fixing people the worker is doomed to fail. Fix the system, not the worker.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>This episode is an introduction to our new podcast "Get REAL About Safety". Pam and Mike discuss their backgrounds, experiences and the journey they have been on towards a new view of safety. The new view recognizes all humans make errors and that focusin</itunes:subtitle>
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