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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of FTCN’s CTO Series, Season 1, powered by <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">L3Harris</a>, host <strong>Ken Miller</strong> is joined once again by <strong>Robert “Trip” Raymond</strong>, Strategy and Business Development Lead. They also hear from <strong>John Knowles</strong>, Editor-in-Chief of AOC’s Journal of Electromagnetic Dominance. They sit down at this year’s Air Force Association’s Air, Space, Cyber Conference in September 2024 at National Harbor, Maryland. Ken and Trip discuss Trip’s first-hand perspective as a recently retired F-16 pilot on facing advanced ground-to-air and air-to-air threats. They also share observations from AFA about the path the US Air Force is on to reestablish its advantage in electromagnetic spectrum operations (EMSO).</p><p>The CTO Series is a deep dive into key technologies areas that are driving innovation and the development of cutting-edge capabilities in EMSO. To learn more about L3 Harris, visit <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">here</a>. Episodes 3 &amp; 4 will be released on Tuesday, November 26, and episodes 5 &amp; 6 will be released on Tuesday, December 3. </p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this first episode of FTCN’s CTO Series powered by <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">L3 Harris</a>, host <strong>Ken Miller</strong> sits down with <strong>Patrick Creighton</strong>, Vice President and General Manager of Electronic Warfare at L3Harris. Ken is also joined later by <strong>Robert “Trip” Raymond</strong>, Strategy and Business Development Lead, and <strong>Paul DeLia</strong>, Director of Electronic Warfare Strategy and Development. Together, they discuss the challenges of developing and leading next-generation EW solutions to counter threats with speed, agility, and resilience across the electromagnetic spectrum to ensure mission success in tomorrow’s fight.</p><p>The CTO Series is a six (6) episode deep dive into key technologies areas that are driving innovation and the development of cutting-edge capabilities in EMSO. To learn more about L3 Harris, visit <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">here</a>. Episodes 3 &amp; 4 will be released on Tuesday, November 26, and episodes 5 &amp; 6 will be released on Tuesday, December 3.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this first episode of FTCN’s CTO Series powered by <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">L3 Harris</a>, host <strong>Ken Miller</strong> sits down with <strong>Patrick Creighton</strong>, Vice President and General Manager of Electronic Warfare at L3Harris. Ken is also joined later by <strong>Robert “Trip” Raymond</strong>, Strategy and Business Development Lead, and <strong>Paul DeLia</strong>, Director of Electronic Warfare Strategy and Development. Together, they discuss the challenges of developing and leading next-generation EW solutions to counter threats with speed, agility, and resilience across the electromagnetic spectrum to ensure mission success in tomorrow’s fight.</p><p>The CTO Series is a six (6) episode deep dive into key technologies areas that are driving innovation and the development of cutting-edge capabilities in EMSO. To learn more about L3 Harris, visit <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">here</a>. Episodes 3 &amp; 4 will be released on Tuesday, November 26, and episodes 5 &amp; 6 will be released on Tuesday, December 3.</p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 13:30:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>The Association of Old Crows</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this first episode of FTCN’s CTO Series powered by <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">L3 Harris</a>, host <strong>Ken Miller</strong> sits down with <strong>Patrick Creighton</strong>, Vice President and General Manager of Electronic Warfare at L3Harris. Ken is also joined later by <strong>Robert “Trip” Raymond</strong>, Strategy and Business Development Lead, and <strong>Paul DeLia</strong>, Director of Electronic Warfare Strategy and Development. Together, they discuss the challenges of developing and leading next-generation EW solutions to counter threats with speed, agility, and resilience across the electromagnetic spectrum to ensure mission success in tomorrow’s fight.</p><p>The CTO Series is a six (6) episode deep dive into key technologies areas that are driving innovation and the development of cutting-edge capabilities in EMSO. To learn more about L3 Harris, visit <a href="https://www.l3harris.com/all-capabilities/electronic-warfare">here</a>. Episodes 3 &amp; 4 will be released on Tuesday, November 26, and episodes 5 &amp; 6 will be released on Tuesday, December 3.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>military, emso, electromagnetic spectrum, defense</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
      <podcast:person role="Host">Ken Miller</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person role="Guest">Patrick Creighton</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person role="Guest">Robert “Trip” Raymond</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person role="Guest">Paul DeLia</podcast:person>
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