“I would advise people to be really wary about the sensitivities that exist, those kinds of meta messages that go on between couples with expression, tone of voice, body language, all that kind of stuff that really gets dispensed with in the workplace, because you're just trying to get something done.”

– Meg Hirshberg

“The business is a member of the family.… The business has its own life, it has its own demands, it has its own call on your time and your consciousness. And you have to think of it that way.”

–Gary Hirshberg

Meg Cadoux Hirshberg is founder of The Anticancer Lifestyle Foundation, a non-profit dedicated to promoting evidence-based lifestyle transformation for cancer survivors. For 15 years Meg was a freelance non-fiction writer, whose work appeared in Yankee, New Hampshire magazine, and the Boston Globe magazine, among other publications. In 2009, she began writing a regular column for Inc. magazine called “Balancing Acts” that explored work-life balance and the intersection of family and business in an entrepreneurial setting.

Meg’s book, For Better or For Work: A Survival Guide For Entrepreneurs and Their Families, expands on her column topics. Axiom Business Book Awards, AMEX Open Forum, and entrepreneur magazine cited Meg’s book as one of the best business books of 2012. Meg has also written two yogurt cookbooks. She is married to Gary Hirshberg, chairman and co-founder of Stonyfield Yogurt. The couple has three children.

Gary Hirshberg is cofounder, chief organic optimist, and former longtime CEO of Stonyfield Organic, the world’s leading organic yogurt producer. He is also cofounder and chair of two organic advocacy and education NGOs and the Hirshberg Entrepreneurship Institute, which supports mission-driven entrepreneurs. An active investor and philanthropist, Gary is involved in a number of projects, among them establishing an organic entrepreneurship center in Motueka, New Zealand. 

He has received 12 honorary doctorates and numerous awards for corporate and environmental leadership, including a 2015 Champion for Children Award from Mount Sinai Hospital’s Children’s Environmental Health Center and a Lifetime Achievement Award from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

• Mirasee
• Meg’s website
• Meg’s book
• Gary’s website 

Credits:

• Guest: Meg and Gary Hirshberg
• Host: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
• Producer: Cynthia Lamb
• Executive producer: Danny Iny
• Scripted and assembled by: Geoff Govertsen and Michi Lantz
• Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
• Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
• Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
• Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:

Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name(s): Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name(s): Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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What’s it like to be partners in business and in life? Mirasee owners Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak tackle the unique challenges as well as benefits of working with a spouse or significant other. Each episode features a guest couple who also share their experiences, perspectives and hard-earned wisdom.

Danny Iny is the founder and CEO of Mirasee, a multiple-seven-figure company that teaches expert entrepreneurs to create sustainable, profitable businesses. He is also the best-selling author of nine published books, including Teach Your Gift, Leveraged Learning, Teach and Grow Rich, The Audience Revolution, and Engagement from Scratch!

He is the host of the Course Lab Podcast and is also the creator of the acclaimed Course Builder’s Laboratory training program, which provides all the instruction, coaching, and support that entrepreneurs need to build and launch a profitable online course.

Danny has maintained a passionate commitment to learning and transparency, freely sharing lessons learned from great successes, major challenges, and even his personal life to support the online entrepreneurial community as a teacher, speaker, trainer, and advisor to many of the top leaders in our industry.

Together with his business partner and talented wife, Bhoomi, he now leads a team of over 100 people spread all over the world who are on a mission to support a very special global community of 100,000+ loyal and inspired entrepreneurs.

Bhoomi Pathak is the COO at Mirasee. She also leads the company’s digital agency MIST, which executes digital projects on behalf of Mirasee’s clients and students. She officially joined Mirasee in the summer of 2013, after a career as a corporate consultant, working with large organizations.

After having “grown up” in the corporate environment, Bhoomi traded in her suits and elite frequent flyer status for this opportunity to learn about navigating the ups and downs of an entrepreneurial business.

In her spare time, Bhoomi likes to play with her toddlers and Danny, cook, entertain friends and family, travel to interesting places and seek new adventures.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Mirasee

Credits:

Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Cynthia Lamb, Geoff Govertsen, and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:

•Track Title: A New Adventure

Artist Name(s): Reveille

Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

•Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good

Artist Name(s): Rhythm Scott

Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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“We had been working together for years before we became a couple, so we already had some of those work roles, responsibilities, even rhythms and routines in place.”  – Michael Port

Amy & Michael Port

Michael Port has written nine books which have been featured on the bestseller lists of the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today and Publisher’s Weekly and have been selected by Amazon and 800-CEO-READ as “best books of the year.”

He was once a professional actor, having received his MFA from NYU’s Graduate Acting Program, guest starring on shows like Sex & The City and Law & Order, and in films like The Pelican Brief and Down to Earth. These days, Michael can be seen on MSNBC, CNBC, and PBS as an on air expert in communication and business development and as the host of the most popular podcast on public speaking and performance, Steal the Show with Michael Port.

Amy Port is the Co-Founder and President of Heroic Public Speaking; her work extends from the execution of corporate training packages, to development of CEO keynotes, private masterclasses and coaching.

After earning her MFA in Acting from The Yale School of Drama, Amy spent years acting professionally in theaters such as Seattle Repertory, Oregon Shakespeare and Yale Rep, and working consistently in commercials. She now applies the skills of performance that only well-trained actors know to the coaching of ‘non-actors’ looking to crush their sales presentations, to make their voices heard in TED Talk style presentations, and to take the big stage keynoting major conferences.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

• Mirasee
• Michael and Amy Port’s website: HeroicPublicSpeaking.com

Credits:

• Guest: Michael and Amy Port
• Host: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
• Producer: Cynthia Lamb
• Executive producer: Danny Iny
• Scripted and assembled  by: Geoff Govertsen and Michi Lantz
• Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
• Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
• Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
• Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:

Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name(s): Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name(s): Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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“I think that sometimes you just have to go with your gut and blurt it out, and then work through it and be willing to stand beside it.”  – Melonie Orr

Suzanne Evans

Suzanne Evans is the founder of Driven Inc. She is a mom, wife, sister, entrepreneur and risk taker from North Carolina. Her work blends business, strategy, lifestyle, and storytelling in a way that allows people to build businesses that shape the world to be a better place. The process of  momship and business ownership and life has been a delicious mix of messy, exhilarating, devastating, and exciting. Along the way, they have gotten some of it right: hitting the Inc. 500/5000 for five straight years and landing #5 on the NY Times Bestseller list. As they say, they’ve also messed up a lot of things, which positions them perfectly to help more good people do more good work in the world.

 

Melonie Orr

Melonie Orr is president of Driven Inc. Always irreverent and brutally honest, Melonie disrupts any business conversation she enters by making it more logical, less emotional, and more profitable. She follows this approach because she knows that making the logical best decision will always yield the best results. She left her job as marketing director for the nation’s largest not-for-profit educational theater to run all things Driven Inc. to the tune of more than $7 million a year. By helping people realize their potential, she believes anyone can build a profitable brand.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Mirasee
Suzanne & Melonie’s website

Credits:
Guest: Suzanne Evans & Melonie Orr
Host: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled  by: Geoff Govertsen and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:

Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name(s): Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name(s): Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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What’s it like to be partners in business and in life? Mirasee owners Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak tackle the unique challenges as well as benefits of working with a spouse or significant other. Each episode features a guest couple who also share their experiences, perspectives, and hard-earned wisdom.

Tom Hobson and Jennifer Hurshell

Tom “Teacher Tom” Hobson and Jennifer Hurshell together run Teacher Tom’s World. Tom is an early childhood educator, international speaker, education consultant, teacher of teachers, parent educator, and author. He is best known, however, for his namesake blog Teacher Tom's Blog, where he has posted daily for over a decade, chronicling the life and times of his little preschool in the rain-soaked Pacific Northwest corner of the USA. 

Teacher Tom shares his play-based pedagogy through online e-courses for early childhood educators; produces online early childhood conferences; consults with organizations about his "Family Schools" program; and inspires early years audiences around the world (Greece, UK, Iceland, Australia, China, Vietnam, New Zealand, Canada, and across the US) both virtually and in person with his engaging views on early childhood education, play, and pedagogy.

He was pressured by his blog readers into authoring his first book, aptly named Teacher Tom’s First Book, and is thrilled about the recent release of Teacher Tom’s Second Book.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

1. Mirasee
2. Teacher Tom’s website
3. Teacher Tom’s Instagram
4. Teacher Tom’s LinkedIn
5. Teacher Tom’s books

Credits:
Guests: Tom Hobson and Jennifer Hurshell
Hosts: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Cynthia Lamb, Geoff Govertsen, and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:
Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name: Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name: Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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What’s it like to be partners in business and in life? Mirasee owners Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak tackle the unique challenges as well as benefits of working with a spouse or significant other. Each episode features a guest couple who also share their experiences, perspectives, and hard-earned wisdom.

Rob and Sherry Walling

Rob Walling is a serial entrepreneur who’s built and sold several companies, including Drip. He has been helping non-venture-backed startup founders since 2005 and now runs the first startup accelerator for SaaS bootstrappers, called TinySeed. Although he has invested in more than 125 startups, he doesn’t believe the only way to start a company is to raise money — in fact, he’s built six businesses to six- or seven-figures in revenue without taking outside funding. Rob also hosts the most popular podcast for bootstrappers, called Startups for the Rest of Us. It has more than 10 million downloads and 1000 five-star ratings.

Dr. Sherry Walling is a clinical psychologist, speaker, podcaster, author, and mental health advocate. Her company, ZenFounder, helps entrepreneurs and leaders navigate transition, rapid growth, loss, and any manner of complex human experience. She also hosts the ZenFounder podcast, which has been called a “must listen” by both Forbes and Entrepreneur Magazine and has been downloaded more than 1,000,000 times. She has also been known to occasionally perform as a circus aerialist.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

1. Mirasee
2. Sherry’s website
3. Rob’s website
4. Sherry and Rob’s book
5. ZenFounder website
6. ZenFounder podcast episode “Onboarding Your Spouse”
7. The book ​The Heart of Money
8. The book 5 Money Conversations

Credits:
Guests: Sherry and Rob Walling
Hosts: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Cynthia Lamb, Geoff Govertsen, and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisor: Evan Miles, Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:
Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name: Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name: Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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What’s it like to be partners in business and in life? Mirasee owners Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak tackle the unique challenges as well as benefits of working with a spouse or significant other. Each episode features a guest couple who also share their experiences, perspectives, and hard-earned wisdom. But for this particular episode, the guests are Priya and Micah Pathak-Iny, Danny and Bhoomi’s children, who offer their often-humorous perspective on what it’s like when mom and dad run a business.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Mirasee

Credits:
Guests: Priya and Micah Pathak-Iny
Hosts: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Geoff Govertsen and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisors: Evan Miles and Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio
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Music and SFX credits:
Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name: Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name: Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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What’s it like to be partners in business and in life? Mirasee owners Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak tackle the unique challenges as well as benefits of working with a spouse or significant other. Each episode features a guest couple who also share their experiences, perspectives, and hard-earned wisdom.

Richard Chandler

Richard Chandler came to psychotherapy after two decades of work in holistic healthcare. He wanted to serve clients when faced with life challenges that were more mental, emotional, and relational than was possible in his former healthcare practice. In addition to career consulting, life, and executive coaching, Richard primarily works with couples and individual men and women seeking better relationships, personal growth, and greater life balance and happiness. He is a Licensed Professional Counselor through the State of Minnesota and founder of Chandler Counseling and Consulting.

Julie Kyker

Julie Kyker is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who’s been in practice for more than 30 years, as well as in business for herself over the past decade. In her EntreCouple Program, she teaches entrepreneurs and their significant others how to use neuroscience-backed tools and methods for facing fears, embracing conflict, and deepening connection. Julie uniquely recognizes that this clientele requires a particular type of support and attention to keep the magic of love alive in their relationships, so that they are unstoppable in their business enterprises. 

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee

Richard’s websites:
– MN Counseling Therapy
– Chandler Counseling and Consulting
– Strategic Leadership Consultants of MN
– Relationships Communication

Julie’s website

Credits:
Hosts: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Geoff Govertsen and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisors: Evan Miles and Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music and SFX credits:
Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name: Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name: Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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What’s it like to be partners in business and in life? Mirasee owners Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak tackle the unique challenges as well as benefits of working with a spouse or significant other. Most episodes feature a guest couple who then share their experiences, perspectives, and hard-earned wisdom.

Johnny B. Truant

Johnny B. Truant is the co-founder and flagship storyteller of Sterling & Stone. Johnny writes fun, page-turning, layered, and most of all “inquisitive” fiction — stories told in many genres and ways, united by a curiosity about life’s biggest questions. Sterling & Stone is a multimedia story studio. Much like Pixar, Bad Robot, or Lucasfilm, it is an incubator for unforgettable stories. Unbound by genre or rules, other than the ones that make a story magical, Sterling & Stone tells tales in every medium: books, audio, and film/television.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:
Mirasee
Sterling & Stone

Credits:
Hosts: Danny Iny and Bhoomi Pathak
Producer: Cynthia Lamb
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Scripted and assembled by: Geoff Govertsen and Michi Lantz
Audio Post Supervisors: Evan Miles and Christopher Martin
Audio Post Production: Post Office Sound
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

If you liked this episode, please leave us a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people. And then, be sure to check out the previous episodes in the For Better or For Work series.

Music and SFX credits:
Track Title: A New Adventure
Artist Name: Reveille
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Lift It Up and Feel Good
Artist Name: Rhythm Scott
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

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