Kaz Scott works with founders who've lost touch with their own vision and calls herself a visionary sidekick, not a coach or consultant. She brings Sarah one film, American History X, chosen two weeks earlier and only properly understood this morning in the shower. The connection she finds is so direct she keeps pausing to say it out loud.

Kaz talks about working alongside her dad in his business and watching him question his own judgment out loud every day, and why that became the driver for everything she does now. She talks about the failed businesses she's been part of, not the successful ones, and why that's given her something better than a credential. She talks about the one teacher who sees something in a child everyone else has written off, and why that's the story that matters most to her.

And she realizes, halfway through, that the professor character she's always loved is doing exactly what she does.

Kaz runs Grow Inspire and you'll find her at growinspire.co.uk, on LinkedIn, Instagram and Substack.

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STORIES: American History X, dir. Tony Kaye, 1998

MUSIC: Keith Holden, 2013

Adam Hanslow-Smith makes long-form films about complex things, and the work he's probably proudest of was made for charities. He brings Sarah two films, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and The Truman Show, pulled off his shelf a couple of days earlier without noticing what they had in common. Halfway through the conversation he notices, and it stops the episode in its tracks.

Adam talks about the documentary he was shown as a student, and the principle he arrived at then and still holds now - that you must always tell the story and not just point a camera at people. He talks about volunteering to film a charity sleep-out through the night, and why it had to be him. He talks about why he doesn't believe in fate, and why he's making things longer while everyone else is making them shorter.

And he works out, live, why Christof might be the most uncomfortable character in cinema for a man who does the same job.

Adam is a videographer, filmmaker and the founder of Indigo Networking, and you'll find him on LinkedIn.

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STORIES: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, dir. Michel Gondry, 2004, and The Truman Show, dir. Peter Weir, 1998

MUSIC: Keith Holden, 2013

Then the script flips. The conversation stops being about the story and starts being about them - childhoods, careers, turning points - and guests discover the thread running through everything, hiding in plain sight.

Because our values are like fingerprints. Completely unique, they show up on everything we touch - especially the stories we can't let go of. How well do you know yours? Find out more at thevaluesfingerprint.com/podcast

MUSIC: Keith Holden, 2013