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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode, Meredith and Ianessa discuss how businesses and social media influencers have a surprising amount of power over what clinicians think and buy.]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode, Meredith and Ianessa discuss how businesses and social media influencers have a surprising amount of power over what clinicians think and buy.]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 12:24:55 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Meredith and Ianessa discuss how businesses and social media influencers have a surprising amount of power over what clinicians think and buy.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:keywords>speech language pathology, audiology, science communication</itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[Join us with special guests Summer Loehr, MA, CCC-SLP &amp; Will Farnham, MS, CCC-SLP, for a discussion-turned-collegial dispute about whether clinicians do not align with EBP because they themselves are the barriers or because external obstacles (i.e. time, resources) far outweigh individual determination.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Join us with special guests Summer Loehr, MA, CCC-SLP &amp; Will Farnham, MS, CCC-SLP, for a discussion-turned-collegial dispute about whether clinicians do not align with EBP because they themselves are the barriers or because external obstacles (i.e. time, resources) far outweigh individual determination.]]>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2020 12:20:40 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Join us with special guests Summer Loehr, MA, CCC-SLP &amp;amp; Will Farnham, MS, CCC-SLP, for a discussion-turned-collegial dispute about whether clinicians do not align with EBP because they themselves are the barriers or because external obstacles (i.e. time, resources) far outweigh individual determination.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Join us with special guests Summer Loehr, MA, CCC-SLP &amp;amp; Will Farnham, MS, CCC-SLP, for a discussion-turned-collegial dispute about whether clinicians do not align with EBP because they themselves are the barriers or because external obstacles (i.e. ti</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Visit <a href="https://www.evidenceandargument.com/">https://www.evidenceandargument.com/</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2020 07:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Once our CSD students graduate (and throughout their careers), they encounter an incredible amount of information and misinformation. And it's presented to them in many forms, including pseudoscientific nonsense, from charlatans trying to make a buck, and from know-it-alls and internet assholes who you perhaps can't decide if you should trust or not. How do we know who to trust? Can you skirt misinformation in our field by learning how to better understand people as barriers?</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Once our CSD students graduate (and throughout their careers), they encounter an incredible amount of information and misinformation. And it's presented to them in many forms, including pseudoscientific nonsense, from charlatans trying to make a buck, and</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Episode 2: Is the Evidence Gap in Our Field Graduate Programs' Fault?</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Meredith Harold, PhD, CCC-SLP &amp; Ianessa Humbert, PhD, CCC-SLP</author>
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      <itunes:summary>Everyone's looking for someone to blame for the disconnect between our field's research and clinical practice. Where does that disconnect come from? Is someone or some process at fault? Could it be our graduate programs? Listen to Drs. Harold and Humbert discuss this, then join us on Facebook or Twitter to continue the conversation.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Everyone's looking for someone to blame for the disconnect between our field's research and clinical practice. Where does that disconnect come from? Is someone or some process at fault? Could it be our graduate programs? Listen to Drs. Harold and Humbert </itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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