No Stone Unturned

Building cities for everyone: gender-aware design - with Eva James (Bureau James) and Elise Moeskops (Amsterdam City Council)

Savills — Wed, 10 Sep 2025 07:00:00 +0200

In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Eva James, urban designer and founder of Bureau James, and Elise Moeskops, member of the Amsterdam City Council. Together, they explore how gender shapes our experience of the city and how most urban spaces are still designed with the male perspective as default.

From teenage girls who avoid parks, to building regulations that overlook the needs of women, the gender data gap runs deep. But by designing with inclusion in mind, we can create safer, more functional, and more welcoming environments for everyone. They discuss what gender-aware urban planning looks like, why better data is essential, and how inclusive design strengthens not only social outcomes but also real estate value.

Discover how a more inclusive built environment starts with better questions and a willingness to challenge “neutral” design.

From bricks to communities: how Social Value strengthens real estate - With Cees van der Spek (EDGE)

Savills — Wed, 27 Aug 2025 09:48:44 +0200

In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Cees van der Spek, Public Affairs & Global Corporate Relations Director at EDGE. Together, they explore the social value of real estate: how buildings can be more than square meters or financial returns, they can become the beating heart of a community.

From symphony orchestras rehearsing in empty office spaces to restaurants and parks that bring residents and employees together, small gestures can make a big impact. But social value isn’t just about connection and pride, it also strengthens the business case. Properties with a strong social function attract loyal tenants, reduce vacancy rates, and align more closely with ESG goals.

Discover how mixed-use developments are shaping the future of our cities, and why collaboration between investors, municipalities, and developers is key to unlocking this potential.

Digital Twins in real estate: from data to decisions - with Julian Rimmer (Moser Associates) & Jozien van der Wal (Schiphol Area Development Company)

Savills — Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0200

Digital Twins in real estate: from data to decisions - with Julian Rimmer (Moser Associates) & Jozien van der Wal (Schiphol Area Development Company)

No longer just a futuristic concept, Digital Twins have become a practical, data-driven tool transforming the way we design, manage, and invest in real estate.

In this episode of No Stone Unturned, host Charlotte de Mos sits down with Julian Rimmer (Director of Digital Practice at Moser Associates) and Jozien van der Wal (Program Manager Digital Twins at Schiphol Area Development Company) to revisit a bold prediction from two years ago: that digital twins would revolutionize the industry.

From optimising building performance and advancing sustainability to improving occupier wellbeing, discover why embracing Digital Twins could give you - as an investor, developer, or occupier - a competitive edge, and what it takes to get started.

Off the grid? The rise of self-sufficient real estate – with Kees Noorman (ORAM) & Sanne Castro (Joulz)

Savills — Wed, 30 Jul 2025 11:01:31 +0200

In a time of grid congestion, energy is no longer just a utility issue - it’s a real estate challenge.

In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Kees Noorman (Director at ORAM) and Sanne Castro (Advisory Manager at Joulz) explore how property owners and businesses can take charge of their own energy supply and why self-sufficient real estate may soon become a necessity.

With limited access to the national grid, new business connections are being denied across the Netherlands. But by embracing smart metering, battery storage, and energy hubs, where companies generate, share, and store power together, the property sector is finding creative ways forward.

Learn how untapped grid capacity, collective energy systems, and small-scale collaborations can lead to big, structural impact. And why starting with just one neighbor might be the smartest investment you will make.

Why Investing in Food Hubs Is Future-Proof – Christian Heerings (Property manager at Hines and Park manager of Fresh Park Venlo)

Savills — Wed, 16 Jul 2025 07:00:00 +0200

In challenging times, food security is no longer just an agricultural issue—it’s also a real estate challenge. In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Christian Heerings (Property Manager at Hines and Park Manager of Fresh Park Venlo) and Wouter van ‘t Grunewold (Market Intelligence Analyst at Savills) about how the property sector is helping secure a resilient food supply chain.

Fresh Park Venlo, one of Europe’s largest agri-food hubs, illustrates why food-related real estate offers stable, future-proof investment opportunities. But with high energy demands, strict zoning regulations, and aging infrastructure, food hubs require creativity and strong collaboration among landlords, tenants, local authorities, and grid operators.

Discover how ecosystem thinking, smart energy solutions, and a step-by-step approach to scaling up can unlock new opportunities in this essential niche market.

Trailer - No Stone Unturned - Season 4

Savills — Wed, 09 Jul 2025 13:55:52 +0200

Real estate is evolving at a remarkable pace. If you’re not looking ahead, you risk falling behind.

Are you ready for the transitions that will define your returns, strategy and impact on society?

No Stone Unturned – the Savills podcast – is back with a brand new season. From Wednesday 16 July, join leading experts as we unpack the key trends shaping the future of real estate. In five episodes, we explore:

The role of real estate in securing our food supply
Grid congestion and how it affects tenants, developers and investors alike
The power of a Digital Twin: creating smarter, more valuable assets through digital replicas
How mixed-use developments drive social value and resilient urban environments
The gender data gap – and why inclusive design is essential for the cities of tomorrow

Check out the teaser and follow No Stone Unturned on Spotify or YouTube .

What is currently energy label C in the Netherlands will soon be label E

Savills — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:19:17 +0200

A big change is coming when it comes to energy labels. It will have a major impact on the real estate market in the Netherlands, especially on the office market. While an energy level C label is still currently sufficient to comply with legislation, in a few years that same building would receive a much lower label. Under EU rules, energy labels are changing. 'The biggest change is that A+ to A++++ will disappear,' says ESG consultant Bart Oosterhuis of Savills in this episode of No Stone Unturned. He is joined by his colleague Iris Kampers, who warns: 'You can no longer be satisfied with label C. Look at your portfolio and filter out all the buildings with an A label. Those are safe. For everything below that, see what adjustments you will need to make.'

An office shouldn't be "over-designed," but have room for development - Raquel Machado (M Moser)

Savills — Wed, 19 Apr 2023 06:00:00 +0200

What does the ideal office look like? Many real estate investors and operators are looking for the answer to that question, and like to stick to the perfect office once they've found it. However, it's important to remain flexible, argues Raquel Machado (Senior Associate at M Moser) in the new episode of 'No Stone Unturned'. Don't "over-design," but involve people and keep room for development.

Focus on housing should be more about senior living - Wim Wensing (Chief Investment Officer Amvest)

Savills — Wed, 12 Apr 2023 06:00:00 +0200

It is an ambitious plan by Minister De Jonge of the Dutch Housing ministry: 900,000 homes must be built in the Netherlands by 2030. Almost a third of these, 290,000, should be suitable for senior citizens. However, discussions often focus on the smaller number of homes that need to be built for the mid-rent level segment. In this new episode of the Savills podcast No Stone Unturned, Wim Wensing (Chief Investment Officer at Amvest) argues it's time to pay more attention to those senior homes.

With AI you can create millions of variants of a real estate design - Herman Kienhuis (Curiosity Venture Capital) and Maurice van Tilburg (Techleap)

Savills — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 06:00:00 +0200

The development of Artificial Intelligence, or AI, will turn the world upside down in the coming years. AI will also bring change to the real estate sector. This makes it possible to design the ideal building, thanks to the millions of variants that AI can create.

This is according to Herman Kienhuis, co-founder of Curiosity Venture Capital, an investor in tech start-ups. In the new episode of Savills 'No Stone Unturned' he says: “You can create millions of variants when you design a new building. And then you can filter those variants with your own criteria. As a result, you get the best design, created by an algorithm.”

Herman is joined by Maurice van Tilburg, managing director of TechLeap. He also sees the real estate sector changing under the influence of AI. “With AI you can make predictions. About traffic flows, about travel behaviour, about hotspots. That is interesting if you build real estate.” With the help of AI, you can improve the air in a building or its energy.

Redeveloping logistics assets is easier than building new ones - Martien van Deursen (Head of Benelux Arrow Capital Partners)

Savills — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 06:00:00 +0200

Existing buildings are becoming more attractive than new builds in the Dutch logistics & industrial sector. An existing building already has a zoning plan, power supply and nitrogen rights, says Martien van Deursen, Head of Benelux at Arrow Capital Partners in the new episode of Savills 'No Stone Unturned'. He believes that the development of new projects is increasingly complicated due to a number of challenges.

More transparency is needed for better valuation in the flexible office market - Robert Sparreboom (HNK)

Savills — Wed, 22 Mar 2023 06:00:00 +0100

The office market is changing rapidly, and one of those changes is the rise of flexible offices in the Netherlands. In this new episode of the Savills podcast 'No Stone Unturned' Robert Sparreboom, Head of Customer Excellence at office investor NSI, argues that 'office as a service' will become the new normal. However, he believes that investors still overestimate the risk of flexible offices.

ESG is becoming an important criterion for consumers when choosing a hotel - Luc Boschmans (Tristan Capital Partners)

Savills — Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:00:00 +0100

Sustainability is becoming increasingly important in the choices consumers make. In this episode of the Savills podcast 'No Stone Unturned' Luc Boschmans, Managing Director Hospitality at Tristan Capital Partners, argues that although ESG is not yet the most important criterion when selecting a hotel, it will definitely change: “Sustainability needs to be our focus in order to be prepared.”

Investors must approach shopping centres differently - Rupert Parker Brady

Savills — Wed, 08 Mar 2023 08:00:00 +0100

Gone are the days when an investor could buy a shopping centre and only took care of new tenants and maintenance. In the new episode of the Savills podcast No Stone Unturned, consultant Rupert Parker Brady argues that the owners of malls need to be much more involved: "Actually, they are the conductor of a symphony orchestra."

Taking policies beyond compliance – Charlotte Extercatte (platform 100 Months to change)

Savills — Wed, 13 Jul 2022 06:00:00 +0200

What are the advantages of taking things just a little bit further than you need to? In this last and extra long episode presenter Charlotte de Mos talks to transformation expert Charlotte Extercatte, who is the initiator of the platform 100 Months to change. She helps companies go ‘beyond compliance’, and to take the necessary steps on the road to a more sustainable future. This is not only for the good of the planet, but those leading the way can also make money out of it.

Practice what you preach to stay ahead – Pauline Bottema (EDGE Technologies)

Savills — Wed, 29 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0200

A lot of companies talk about ESG and sustainability, but really doing something about it is a different story as things become difficult in reality. In this podcast episode presenter Charlotte de Mos and Pauline Bottema, General Counsel & Corporate Secretary at EDGE Technologies, discuss how companies need to really practice what they preach. Pauline is of the opinion that companies have to change if they want to stay relevant in the future.

How investment can make a real impact – Hilke Nijmeijer (portfolio manager CBRE Investment Management)

Savills — Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0200

Investors can make a real impact when they don’t go for the quick win. Hilke Nijmeijer, portfolio manager at CBRE, talks to presenter Charlotte de Mos about the investments CBRE Investment Management makes. She wants people to live in a home for which they pay an affordable rent, and to make houses energy efficient. This has a real impact on society, and will be even more profitable in the long-run.

How the community can add value to real estate – Nils Bonder (manager Healthy Urban Living at AM)

Savills — Wed, 01 Jun 2022 06:00:00 +0200

Investing in real estate is more than just investing in bricks and mortar. An active and healthy community is equally important. Nils Bonder is manager Healthy Urban Living at AM, a company that specialises in area development. He tells presenter Charlotte de Mos how you can have real social impact by building a community.

Diversity and inclusion as part of a workplace strategy – Nicholas Kaspareck (Head of Client Engagement at Unispace)

Savills — Wed, 18 May 2022 06:00:00 +0200

Diversity is an important topic for companies. Every employee should feel safe and comfortable, and be able to work in a way that suits them best. That’s not just a policy, you can also take it into account when building or planning an office. Nicholas Kaspareck, who is an architect and Head of Client Engagement at Unispace, tells presenter Charlotte de Mos about homers, owners and zoners, and how to create the best office space in order to accommodate all different kinds of people.

How certifications help to create a more sustainable built environment – Peter Gabriëls (Dutch Green Building Council)

Savills — Wed, 04 May 2022 06:00:00 +0200

Building sustainable houses and offices is becoming more and more important. However, how can you tell if a building really is sustainable? That’s where certifications come in. In this podcast episode, presenter Charlotte de Mos talks to Peter Gabriëls about the importance, and the impact, of BREEAM on Dutch real estate. He is project manager at the Dutch Green Building Council, who issue BREEAM certificates in the Netherlands.

Biobased building product as the future default – Sten Karelse (Head of Development at NSI)

Savills — Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:00:00 +0200

Forget about concrete and steel, wood is the future. It is the most important material in biobased building product. NSI, the investor in offices, is planning to build the tallest wooden office tower in the Amsterdam business district, the Zuidas. Sten Karelse, Head of Development at NSI, and presenter Charlotte Harmsen discuss the advantages and the challenges of building with wood. Will biobased building products become the new standard?

The impact of Logistics on our environment - Tim Beckmann (CEO Intospace)

Savills — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:00:00 +0200

With the constant rise of e-commerce, the impact on the environment is getting bigger and bigger. Mobility, logistics hubs and energy consumption have a major impact on our lives and society. In this first episode presenter Charlotte Harmsen is joined by Tim Beckmann, CEO of Intospace, a company that helps their clients with adaptive and future proof logistic infrastructure. They’ll discuss the role commercial real estate can play in reaching ESG-goals and providing a sustainable future.

Trailer - No Stone Unturned

Savills — Mon, 28 Mar 2022 11:29:14 +0200

No Stone Unturned, by Savills, guides listeners through the current ESG developments that are taking place in the Dutch real estate market. Each episode includes an inspiring, high-level expert - that will provide updates on the latest ESG trends and challenges they are currently facing. Each episode highlights a specific ESG theme, such as impact investing, diversity & inclusion, mobility and certification.

De vriendelijke verhuurder versus het ambtelijk apparaat - Simon Kuijs (Investment Manager bij woningverhuurder Heimstaden)

Savills — Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:00:00 +0200

De Nederlandse woningmarkt kampt met grote tekorten; en woon- en huurprijzen stijgen enorm. Hoe kijken investeerders naar deze ontwikkelingen? Loont het nog wel om actief te zijn in die markt, of wordt het rendement te klein? En hoe kunnen investeerders een deel van de oplossing voor de woningnood zijn? Daarover gaat Charlotte Harmsen in gesprek met Simon Kuijs van woningverhuurder Heimstaden.

Flexibiliteit in de strijd om talent - Boudewijn van der Sar (oprichter en eigenaar van Workspot)

Savills — Thu, 05 Aug 2021 08:00:00 +0200

In deze zesde aflevering van ‘De Onderste Steen’ keren we terug naar een markt die we al eerder besproken hebben, die van de kantoren. Maar nu richten we onze blik op de flexibele kantoren, want hoe ontwikkelt die markt zich? En waar liggen kansen? Samen met Boudewijn van der Sar, oprichter en eigenaar van Workspot, bespreekt Charlotte de Mos de trends en ontwikkelingen.

De jongvolwassen nichemarkt van studentenhuisvesting - Bas Wilberts (Head of Residential & Hotel Investment bij Savills)

Savills — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 08:00:00 +0200

In augustus begint het studentenseizoen weer en dus nemen we een kijkje in die nichemarkt, want welke kansen en mogelijkheden zijn er voor investeerders in de markt van de studentenhuisvesting? Daarover praat Charlotte Harmsen met Bas Wilberts, Head of Residential & Hotel Investment bij Savills.

De rol van het kantoor door de ogen van een gebruiker - Sebastian Sawicki (Chief Happiness Officer bij New10)

Savills — Thu, 22 Jul 2021 08:00:00 +0200

Net als in de vorige podcast hebben we het over kantoren, maar dan over kantoren door de ogen van de gebruiker. Want ontwikkelaars hebben een visie waar het naartoe gaat, maar hoe kijken bedrijven en hun medewerkers hiernaar? En willen mensen überhaupt terug naar kantoor? In deze nieuwe podcast schuift Sebastian Sawicki, Chief Happiness Officer bij New10, aan bij Charlotte Harmsen.

De rol van het kantoor door de ogen van een ontwikkelaar - Roy van Lieshout (projectdirecteur bij Dura Vermeer Vastgoed)

Savills — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 08:00:00 +0200

Na de hotel- en logistieksector is het nu de beurt aan de kantorenmarkt. Want hoe gaat de rol van het kantoor veranderen onder invloed van corona? Blijven we thuiswerken, en gaat de leegstand daardoor oplopen? Of wordt het kantoor opnieuw uitgevonden? Daarover praat Charlotte Harmsen met Roy van Lieshout, projectdirecteur bij Dura Vermeer Vastgoed, in deze nieuwe aflevering van ‘De Onderste Steen'.

Wat ons bestelgedrag betekent voor de vraag naar logistiek vastgoed - Eva van der Pluijm-Kok (Director Research & Strategy bij Prologis)

Savills — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 08:00:00 +0200

Nederland wordt steeds meer een logistieke hotspot. Tijd dus om in ‘De Onderste Steen’ te praten over deze sector, oftewel over distributiecentra. Want hoe wordt die markt beïnvloed door Brexit en corona? En waarom is juist het zuiden van ons land de absolute hotspot voor logistiek vastgoed? Te gast is Eva van der Pluijm-Kok, Director Research & Strategy bij Prologis, een aanbieder van industrieel vastgoed in de Benelux.

Waarom je ook midden in een pandemie in een nieuw hotel kunt investeren - Paul Hermanides (horeca-ondernemer en eigenaar van Hotel Arena)

Savills — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 08:00:00 +0200

in de eerste aflevering van ‘De Onderste Steen’ duikt presentator Charlotte Harmsen in de hotelsector. Want is het nog wel interessant om te investeren in een sector die zwaar getroffen is door corona? Daarover gaat ze in gesprek met de bekende horeca-ondernemer en eigenaar van Hotel Arena, Paul Hermanides.

Trailer - De Onderste Steen

Savills — Fri, 25 Jun 2021 16:20:15 +0200

Wil je weten waar de grootste kansen liggen in de logistieke vastgoedmarkt, wat de knelpunten zijn als het aankomt op beleggen in woningen en wat de rol wordt van het kantoor? Luister dan naar de Onderste Steen van Savills over de commerciële vastgoedmarkt. In elke aflevering interviewt Charlotte Harmsen de belangrijkste spelers uit de verschillende sectoren. Luister vanaf donderdag 1 juli naar De Onderste Steen in jouw favoriete podcast-app.