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      <title>On How to Use Homework Part 1 (Ep. 47)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Deepak, Hayley and Garrett talk about the importance of homework and how and when to assign it in counseling. Sounds boring but it’s more important than you might realize!<br><br><b>Resources Mentioned</b><br><a href="https://a.co/d/03tLLUE8" rel="noreferrer noopener">Good and Angry</a> by David Powlison]]>
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Good and Angry by David Powlison</itunes:summary>
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Good and Angry by David Powlison</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On Sexual Sin with Ellen Dykas (Ep. 46)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview Ellen on a woman’s battle with sexual sin.<br><br><b>Resources Mentioned</b><ul><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0fwFOITm" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexual Sanity for Women</a> by Ellen Dykas</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0ixNDNh1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sex and the Single Girl</a> by Ellen Dykas</li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0d4JqwEY" rel="noreferrer noopener">Your Dating Relationship and Your Sexual Past</a> by Ellen Dykas</li><li><a href="https://harvestusa.org/books/whats-wrong-with-a-little-porn-when-youre-single-minibook/" rel="noreferrer noopener">What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (single version)</a> – Harvest USA</li><li><a href="https://harvestusa.org/books/whats-wrong-with-a-little-porn-when-youre-married-minibook/" rel="noreferrer noopener">What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (married version)</a> – Harvest USA</li><li><a href="https://harvestusa.org" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvest USA</a></li></ul>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 05:00:18 -0400</pubDate>
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Sex and the Single Girl by Ellen Dykas
Your Dating Relationship and Your Sexual Past by Ellen Dykas
What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (single version) – Harvest USA
What’s Wrong with a Little Porn? (married version) – Harvest USA
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Sex and the Single Girl by Ellen Dykas
Your Dating Relationship and Your Sexual Past by Ellen Dykas
What’s Wrong with</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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Pure in Heart: Sexual Sin and the Promises of God by Garrett Kell
Pornography: Fighting for Purity by Deepack Reju 
Single and Lonely: Finding the Intimacy You Desire by Jayne Clark
Struggling Through Singleness: Help for the Journey by Jane Clark</itunes:summary>
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Pure in Heart: Sexual Sin and the Promises of God by Garrett Kell
Pornography: Fighting for Purity by Deepack Reju 
Single and Lonely: Find</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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“Tortured, Im</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[Hayley, Deepak and Garrett talk about depression and how to think about depression as complicated suffering.<br><br><br><b>Resources Mentioned</b><br><a href="https://a.co/d/5vWJzFC" rel="noreferrer noopener">Depression: Finding Christ in the Darkness</a> by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional)<br><a href="https://a.co/d/6KUbqIG" rel="noreferrer noopener">Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness</a> by Ed Welch<br><a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/mom-dark-river/" rel="noreferrer noopener">“Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus”</a> – article by Garrett Kell<br>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 05:00:20 -0500</pubDate>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 05:00:18 -0500</pubDate>
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The Peacemaker by Ken Sande</itunes:summary>
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The Peacemaker by Ken Sande</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview pastor and counselor Chris Moles, who says you can’t bully a bully. You change a person’s anger with kindness, compassion and forgiveness.<br><b></b><br><b>Resources Mentioned</b><b></b><br><ul><li><a href="https://a.co/d/a2xzOlF" rel="noreferrer noopener">Uprooting Anger</a> by Robert D. Jones</li><li><a href="https://www.chrismoles.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.chrismoles.org</a></li><li><a href="https://www.menofpeace.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.menofpeace.org</a></li></ul><br>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore redemptive strategies for dealing with anger problems and growing in faith in Christ.


Books Mentioned
Anger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. Jones
A Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. Welch
The Peacemaker by Ken Sande
War of Words by Paul David Tripp
Other Resources
"Moving Toward, Away and Against" Chart (This chart is from the CCEF Marriage Counseling course taught by Winston Smith, 2010)
Bible Verses on Anger</itunes:summary>
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Books Mentioned
Anger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. Jones
A Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. Wel</itunes:subtitle>
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The Heart of Anger by Steve Midgley and Christopher Ash
Angry Children: Understanding and Helping Your Children Regain Control by Mike Emlet (Booklet)</itunes:summary>
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Resources mentioned:
The Heart of Anger by Steve Midgley and Christopher Ash
Angry Chil</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>On Anger Part 1 (Ep. 35)</title>
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Resources mentioned:

Good and Angry by David Powlison
Controlling Anger (Mini-book) by David Powlison
Uprooting Anger by Robert D. Jones
The Heart of Anger by Christopher Ash &amp;amp; Steve Midgley
Anger: Escaping The Maze (Mini-book from P&amp;amp;R Publishing)</itunes:summary>
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      <title>On How To Become A Better Listener (Ep. 34)</title>
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      <title>Interview With Abby Wedgeworth (Ep. 33)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Hayley, Garrett and Deepak interview Abby Wedgeworth (author of best-selling book HELD) about how to care for women who have suffered from a  miscarriage. <br><br>Resources Mentioned:<br><br><a href="https://a.co/d/bb73pZ7" rel="noreferrer noopener">Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God’s Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage</a> by Abby Wedgworth<br><br><a href="https://a.co/d/6aHUYkI" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage</a> by Eric Schumacher<br><br><a href="https://a.co/d/hWBmn5F" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament</a> by Mark Vroegop]]>
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Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God’s Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage by Abby Wedgworth
Ours: Biblical Comfort for Men Grieving Miscarriage by Eric Schumacher
Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy: Discovering the Grace of Lament by Mark Vroegop</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Hayley, Garrett and Deepak interview Abby Wedgeworth (author of best-selling book HELD) about how to care for women who have suffered from a  miscarriage. 
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        <![CDATA[Hayley, Garrett and Deepak offer 5 Do's and 5 Don'ts in coming alongside those who have suffered with infertility or miscarriage.]]>
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      <title>On Miscarriage and Infertility Part 1 (Ep. 31)</title>
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      <title>On What to Do When You're Stuck (Ep. 30)</title>
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        <![CDATA[What do you do when you're feeling stuck in counseling?  How do you help someone when it feels like nothing is changing? Hayley, Deepak and Garrett offer eleven suggestions on how to get unstuck! ]]>
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        <![CDATA[What do you do when you're feeling stuck in counseling?  How do you help someone when it feels like nothing is changing? Hayley, Deepak and Garrett offer eleven suggestions on how to get unstuck! ]]>
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        <![CDATA[Hayley and Deepak talk with Ellen Dykas about the problems of relational idolatry. What can you do when you turn an important relationship into an idol? How can you find satisfaction in Christ rather than a person in your life?<br><br><br><br><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Relationships-Taking-Refuge-Devotionals/dp/1629957348/ref=asc_df_1629957348?mcid=d4aaf6b5722134fd85458b68ea307013&amp;hvocijid=1362425550863846108-1629957348-&amp;hvexpln=73&amp;tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=721245378154&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=1362425550863846108&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9007796&amp;hvtargid=pla-2281435177378&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">31 Day Devotional on Toxic Relationship</a></li><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/small-group-study-resources/topical-bible-study-books/sexual-sanity-for-women-healing-from-sexual-and-relational-brokenness/?srsltid=AfmBOoqET01DQ6EtCX_8x2DUvplrUKK2XLFFB1DptOX63mjDtnCmk01Z" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexual Sanity for Women</a></li><li><a href="https://store.thegospelcoalition.org/product/9781938267901/sex-and-the-single-girl-paperback" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sex and the Single Girl</a></li><li><a href="https://harvestusa.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvest USA</a></li></ul><br>Article: <a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/close-friends-or-entangled-hearts-joy-and-dangers-in-woman-to-woman-friendships" rel="noreferrer noopener">Close Friends and Entangled Hearts: Dykas and Powlison</a>.<br><br><br><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/close-friends-or-entangled-hearts-joy-and-dangers-in-woman-to-woman-friendships" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Hayley and Deepak talk with Ellen Dykas about the problems of relational idolatry. What can you do when you turn an important relationship into an idol? How can you find satisfaction in Christ rather than a person in your life?<br><br><br><br><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Relationships-Taking-Refuge-Devotionals/dp/1629957348/ref=asc_df_1629957348?mcid=d4aaf6b5722134fd85458b68ea307013&amp;hvocijid=1362425550863846108-1629957348-&amp;hvexpln=73&amp;tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=721245378154&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=1362425550863846108&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9007796&amp;hvtargid=pla-2281435177378&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">31 Day Devotional on Toxic Relationship</a></li><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/small-group-study-resources/topical-bible-study-books/sexual-sanity-for-women-healing-from-sexual-and-relational-brokenness/?srsltid=AfmBOoqET01DQ6EtCX_8x2DUvplrUKK2XLFFB1DptOX63mjDtnCmk01Z" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexual Sanity for Women</a></li><li><a href="https://store.thegospelcoalition.org/product/9781938267901/sex-and-the-single-girl-paperback" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sex and the Single Girl</a></li><li><a href="https://harvestusa.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvest USA</a></li></ul><br>Article: <a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/close-friends-or-entangled-hearts-joy-and-dangers-in-woman-to-woman-friendships" rel="noreferrer noopener">Close Friends and Entangled Hearts: Dykas and Powlison</a>.<br><br><br><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/close-friends-or-entangled-hearts-joy-and-dangers-in-woman-to-woman-friendships" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]>
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31 Day Devotional on Toxic Relationship
Sexual Sanity for Women
Sex and the Single Girl
Harvest USA
Article: Close Friends and Entangled Hearts: Dykas and Powlison.</itunes:summary>
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31 Day Devotional on Toxic </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>On Eating Disorders, with The Dunhams (Ep. 28)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak interview the  Dunhams about their journey through Krista’s eating disorder. Dave and Krista explain how she let go of control, sorted through all of the unhelpful things she was told, and in the end, centered her life around Christ.]]>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak interview the  Dunhams about their journey through Krista’s eating disorder. Dave and Krista explain how she let go of control, sorted through all of the unhelpful things she was told, and in the end, centered her life around Christ.]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2410</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Garrett, Hayley and Deepak interview the  Dunhams about their journey through Krista’s eating disorder. Dave and Krista explain how she let go of control, sorted through all of the unhelpful things she was told, and in the end, centered her life around Ch</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore 12 principles that people struggling with eating disorders should follow, like facing their shame, turning down the outside cultural influences, fighting against perfectionism and pride, addressing ungodly fears, and much more!]]>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore 12 principles that people struggling with eating disorders should follow, like facing their shame, turning down the outside cultural influences, fighting against perfectionism and pride, addressing ungodly fears, and much more!]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2025 05:00:12 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>2382</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On Eating Disorders Part 2 (Ep. 26)</title>
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      <itunes:title>On Eating Disorders Part 2 (Ep. 26)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about how pastors can care for a member who confesses a battle with an eating disorder. What are the theological, medical and practical considerations? How does the gospel change this dilemma?]]>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about how pastors can care for a member who confesses a battle with an eating disorder. What are the theological, medical and practical considerations? How does the gospel change this dilemma?]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1917</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On Eating Disorders Part 1 (Ep. 25)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>On Eating Disorders Part 1 (Ep. 25)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about what the Bible has to say about food and our relationship with food.<br><br><b>Related resources:</b><ul><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/helping-bulimics" rel="noreferrer noopener">Helping Bulimics</a> by Elyse Fitzpatrick</li><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/helping-anorexics" rel="noreferrer noopener">Helping Anorexics</a> by Elyse Fitzpatrick</li><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/disorderly-eating-for-the-rest-of-us" rel="noreferrer noopener">Disorderly Eating... for the Rest of Us</a> by Elyse Fitzpatrick</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about what the Bible has to say about food and our relationship with food.<br><br><b>Related resources:</b><ul><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/helping-bulimics" rel="noreferrer noopener">Helping Bulimics</a> by Elyse Fitzpatrick</li><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/helping-anorexics" rel="noreferrer noopener">Helping Anorexics</a> by Elyse Fitzpatrick</li><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/disorderly-eating-for-the-rest-of-us" rel="noreferrer noopener">Disorderly Eating... for the Rest of Us</a> by Elyse Fitzpatrick</li></ul>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2025 05:00:13 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>2107</itunes:duration>
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Helping Anorexics by Elyse Fitzpatrick
Disorderly Eating... for the Rest of Us by Elyse Fitzpatrick</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Garrett, Hayley and Deepak think about what the Bible has to say about food and our relationship with food.
Related resources:Helping Bulimics by Elyse Fitzpatrick
Helping Anorexics by Elyse Fitzpatrick
Disorderly Eating... for the Rest of Us by Elyse Fit</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On How to End Counseling Sessions (Ep. 24)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>On How to End Counseling Sessions (Ep. 24)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[The decision to bring the counseling process to a close is sometimes clear, but often not. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom talk about how to end counseling sessions.<br><br><b>Related resources</b><br><ul><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/the-discipleship-river" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Discipleship River</a> by Steve Viars</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[The decision to bring the counseling process to a close is sometimes clear, but often not. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom talk about how to end counseling sessions.<br><br><b>Related resources</b><br><ul><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/the-discipleship-river" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Discipleship River</a> by Steve Viars</li></ul>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 05:00:13 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>The decision to bring the counseling process to a close is sometimes clear, but often not. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom talk about how to end counseling sessions.
Related resources
The Discipleship River by Steve Viars</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>The decision to bring the counseling process to a close is sometimes clear, but often not. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom talk about how to end counseling sessions.
Related resources
The Discipleship River</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On Adultery, with Michael Gembola (Ep. 23)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>On Adultery, with Michael Gembola (Ep. 23)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley interview Michael Gembola, the author of After an Affair.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/after-an-affair_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">After an Affair</a> by Michael Gembola</li></ul>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley interview Michael Gembola, the author of After an Affair.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/after-an-affair_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">After an Affair</a> by Michael Gembola</li></ul>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2025 05:00:14 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:duration>1917</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley interview Michael Gembola, the author of After an Affair.
Related resources:After an Affair by Michael Gembola</itunes:summary>
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Related resources:After an Affair by Michael Gembola</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:keywords></itunes:keywords>
      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On Adultery Part 3 (Ep. 22)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom finish their mini-series on adultery, talking about reconciliation after adultery.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/christian-books/biblical-counseling-books/my-spouse-was-unfaithful-finding-strength-in-gods-presence/" rel="noreferrer noopener">My Spouse Was Unfaithful: Finding Strength in God's Presence</a><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/christian-books/biblical-counseling-books/my-spouse-was-unfaithful-finding-strength-in-gods-presence/" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a>by Robert Jones</li><li><a href="https://thementoringproject.com/field-guides/forgiveness/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Forgiveness</a> by Garrett Kell</li><li><a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/disclosing-sin-dating/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Disclosing Past Sexual Sin in a Dating Relationship</a> by Garrett Kell</li><li><a href="https://prpbooks.com/book/forgiveness_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">Forgiveness: Reflecting God's Mercy</a> by Hayley Satrom</li></ul><br>Subscribe to our new podcast, <a href="https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Storm in the Desert</a>.]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom finish their mini-series on adultery, talking about reconciliation after adultery.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/christian-books/biblical-counseling-books/my-spouse-was-unfaithful-finding-strength-in-gods-presence/" rel="noreferrer noopener">My Spouse Was Unfaithful: Finding Strength in God's Presence</a><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/christian-books/biblical-counseling-books/my-spouse-was-unfaithful-finding-strength-in-gods-presence/" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a>by Robert Jones</li><li><a href="https://thementoringproject.com/field-guides/forgiveness/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Forgiveness</a> by Garrett Kell</li><li><a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/disclosing-sin-dating/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Disclosing Past Sexual Sin in a Dating Relationship</a> by Garrett Kell</li><li><a href="https://prpbooks.com/book/forgiveness_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">Forgiveness: Reflecting God's Mercy</a> by Hayley Satrom</li></ul><br>Subscribe to our new podcast, <a href="https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Storm in the Desert</a>.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 05:00:12 -0400</pubDate>
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Related resources:My Spouse Was Unfaithful: Finding Strength in God's Presence by Robert Jones
Forgiveness by Garrett Kell
Disclosing Past Sexual Sin in a Dating Relationship by Garrett Kell
Forgiveness: Reflecting God's Mercy by Hayley Satrom
Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[What should counselors do when adultery comes to light? <br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom continue their mini-series on adultery. <br><br>Related resources:<ol><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/marriage-books/restoring-your-broken-marriage-healing-after-adultery/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Restoring Your Broken Marriage: Healing After Adultery</a> by Robert Jones</li><li><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/after-an-affair_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">After an Affair</a><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/after-an-affair_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a>by Michael Gembola</li></ol>]]>
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        <![CDATA[What should counselors do when adultery comes to light? <br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom continue their mini-series on adultery. <br><br>Related resources:<ol><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/marriage-books/restoring-your-broken-marriage-healing-after-adultery/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Restoring Your Broken Marriage: Healing After Adultery</a> by Robert Jones</li><li><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/after-an-affair_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">After an Affair</a><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/after-an-affair_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a>by Michael Gembola</li></ol>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 05:00:13 -0500</pubDate>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom continue their mini-series on adultery.
Related resources:Restoring Your Broken Marriage: Healing After Adultery by Robert Jones
After an Affair by Michael Gembola</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>What should counselors do when adultery comes to light?
In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom continue their mini-series on adultery.
Related resources:Restoring Your Broken Marriage: Healing After Adultery by Ro</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley begin a 3-part series on adultery and discuss what the Bible says about adultery.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/envision-the-end-of-your-sin/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Envision the End of Your Sin</a> by Garrett Kell</li><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/marriage-books/help-my-spouse-committed-adultery-first-steps-for-dealing-with-betrayal/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Help! My Spouse Committed Adultery: First Steps for Dealing with Betrayal </a>by Winston Smith</li></ul><br><br>Subscribe to our new podcast, <a href="https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Storm in the Desert</a>.<br>]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley begin a 3-part series on adultery and discuss what the Bible says about adultery.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/envision-the-end-of-your-sin/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Envision the End of Your Sin</a> by Garrett Kell</li><li><a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/marriage-books/help-my-spouse-committed-adultery-first-steps-for-dealing-with-betrayal/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Help! My Spouse Committed Adultery: First Steps for Dealing with Betrayal </a>by Winston Smith</li></ul><br><br>Subscribe to our new podcast, <a href="https://www.9marks.org/podcast/a-storm-in-the-desert/" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Storm in the Desert</a>.<br>]]>
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Related resources:Envision the End of Your Sin by Garrett Kell
Help! My Spouse Committed Adultery: First Steps for Dealing with Betrayal by Winston Smith
Subscribe to our new podcast, A Storm in the Desert.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley begin a 3-part series on adultery and discuss what the Bible says about adultery.
Related resources:Envision the End of Your Sin by Garrett Kell
Help! My Spouse Committed Adultery: First Step</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:explicit>No</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[Counseling Talk is back for season 2!<br><br>In this episode, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley discuss how to ask good questions in a counseling session. They share personal stories and practical examples that they have seen over the years.<br><br><ul><li><a href="https://graceky.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/X-ray-Questions-Drawing-Out-the-Whys-and-Wherefores-of-Human-Behavior.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener">X-ray Questions: Drawing Out the Whys and Wherefores of Human Behavior</a> by David Powlison</li><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/products/pastor-and-counseling?_pos=2&amp;_sid=8227ad108&amp;_ss=r" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Pastor and Counseling</a> by Deepak Reju and Jeremy Pierre</li><li><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/A-Do-It-Yourself-Marriage-Retreat_2016-Revised-Version.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat</a> by Deepak Reju</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Counseling Talk is back for season 2!<br><br>In this episode, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley discuss how to ask good questions in a counseling session. They share personal stories and practical examples that they have seen over the years.<br><br><ul><li><a href="https://graceky.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/X-ray-Questions-Drawing-Out-the-Whys-and-Wherefores-of-Human-Behavior.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener">X-ray Questions: Drawing Out the Whys and Wherefores of Human Behavior</a> by David Powlison</li><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/products/pastor-and-counseling?_pos=2&amp;_sid=8227ad108&amp;_ss=r" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Pastor and Counseling</a> by Deepak Reju and Jeremy Pierre</li><li><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/A-Do-It-Yourself-Marriage-Retreat_2016-Revised-Version.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat</a> by Deepak Reju</li></ul>]]>
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In this episode, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley discuss how to ask good questions in a counseling session. They share personal stories and practical examples that they have seen over the years.
X-ray Questions: Drawing Out the Whys and Wherefores of Human Behavior by David Powlison
The Pastor and Counseling by Deepak Reju and Jeremy Pierre
A Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat by Deepak Reju</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Counseling Talk is back for season 2!
In this episode, Garrett, Deepak, and Hayley discuss how to ask good questions in a counseling session. They share personal stories and practical examples that they have seen over the years.
X-ray Questions: Drawing O</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[In this final episode of Counseling Talk Season 1, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview John Henderson on how to fight anxiety.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Running-Scared-Fear-Worry-Rest-ebook/dp/B003OIC968?crid=2KQBBTRL0OPXF&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pBYr496LZk_906o0_L7rGiNoYBa7cA2M63_J67XzaDsQbuYbi0emKm4mEm5hWVM6.G9wJM1LZLsGMS0HweeOaEIZrUP9pnpQ7WOA7EezoWsI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=ed+welch+running+scared&amp;qid=1730994194&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+running+scared%2Caps%2C109&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Running Scared</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/When-Am-Afraid-Step-Step/dp/1935273159?crid=1HT2RHNYSFCNC&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.GSp2WDcIShSMa9SBcCDsgoIgvfsTGw31GMT3-zPwCAI.6T_3DCTr4d-RdkOrzJ3bPVVXHDz-6_890E4JQByhs34&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=ed+welch+when+I%27m+afraid&amp;qid=1730994169&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+when+i%27m+afraid%2Caps%2C100&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">When I'm Afraid</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Small-Book-Anxious-Heart/dp/1645070360/ref=sr_1_1?crid=38KPCZJWAAP6W&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WNJyj3fcwFvGBhz6MZTCPBLCSvCriqucxVuZBx3lg2322aL_mSM91YuNJdap3MxE2Dcw6RrM_SRokssG8Qf8DgrPadBRIFN_Xsaa1xqjaHv69d6OQCF1YUhXIHKZuKysFmXa4Cg7bstg5wlOu4cEzQ.FDafVMlFRmkmf6vXVVtZtPTh_II9iooPdIKk-IbSJ9g&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Ed+Welch+Anxious+heart&amp;qid=1728340720&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+anxious+hear%2Caps%2C121&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Small Book on Anxious Heart</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Knowing-Peace-31-Day-Devotionals/dp/1629956228/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1016BJVAFIRXE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.A6IyuzT2yxInizhM_nPvILTWCTKHA2KVRYmfo4v6G2h3qMdxM92SIzTU7ynUu-ReqvJNj6iWLLI3-689enXL5a-TcItQ55IQJY5ND9T2Y-2LFc_VNPwJmqHQkbltsE_l.wB0HmpwwzDM6Ckp9lWdJYQAVXWzcJlRnCPKQv0Gn40U&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=anxiety%3A+knowing+God%27s+presence&amp;qid=1728340761&amp;sprefix=anxiety+knowing+god%27s+presenc%2Caps%2C107&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anxiety: Knowing God's Peace</a> by Paul Tautges</li><li><a href="https://delraybaptist.org/resources/seminars/anxiety-fear-and-the-gospel/" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Henderson on anxiety at DRBC</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this final episode of Counseling Talk Season 1, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview John Henderson on how to fight anxiety.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Running-Scared-Fear-Worry-Rest-ebook/dp/B003OIC968?crid=2KQBBTRL0OPXF&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pBYr496LZk_906o0_L7rGiNoYBa7cA2M63_J67XzaDsQbuYbi0emKm4mEm5hWVM6.G9wJM1LZLsGMS0HweeOaEIZrUP9pnpQ7WOA7EezoWsI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=ed+welch+running+scared&amp;qid=1730994194&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+running+scared%2Caps%2C109&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Running Scared</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/When-Am-Afraid-Step-Step/dp/1935273159?crid=1HT2RHNYSFCNC&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.GSp2WDcIShSMa9SBcCDsgoIgvfsTGw31GMT3-zPwCAI.6T_3DCTr4d-RdkOrzJ3bPVVXHDz-6_890E4JQByhs34&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=ed+welch+when+I%27m+afraid&amp;qid=1730994169&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+when+i%27m+afraid%2Caps%2C100&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">When I'm Afraid</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Small-Book-Anxious-Heart/dp/1645070360/ref=sr_1_1?crid=38KPCZJWAAP6W&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WNJyj3fcwFvGBhz6MZTCPBLCSvCriqucxVuZBx3lg2322aL_mSM91YuNJdap3MxE2Dcw6RrM_SRokssG8Qf8DgrPadBRIFN_Xsaa1xqjaHv69d6OQCF1YUhXIHKZuKysFmXa4Cg7bstg5wlOu4cEzQ.FDafVMlFRmkmf6vXVVtZtPTh_II9iooPdIKk-IbSJ9g&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Ed+Welch+Anxious+heart&amp;qid=1728340720&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+anxious+hear%2Caps%2C121&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Small Book on Anxious Heart</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Knowing-Peace-31-Day-Devotionals/dp/1629956228/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1016BJVAFIRXE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.A6IyuzT2yxInizhM_nPvILTWCTKHA2KVRYmfo4v6G2h3qMdxM92SIzTU7ynUu-ReqvJNj6iWLLI3-689enXL5a-TcItQ55IQJY5ND9T2Y-2LFc_VNPwJmqHQkbltsE_l.wB0HmpwwzDM6Ckp9lWdJYQAVXWzcJlRnCPKQv0Gn40U&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=anxiety%3A+knowing+God%27s+presence&amp;qid=1728340761&amp;sprefix=anxiety+knowing+god%27s+presenc%2Caps%2C107&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anxiety: Knowing God's Peace</a> by Paul Tautges</li><li><a href="https://delraybaptist.org/resources/seminars/anxiety-fear-and-the-gospel/" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Henderson on anxiety at DRBC</a></li></ul>]]>
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When I'm Afraid by Ed Welch
A Small Book on Anxious Heart by Ed Welch
Anxiety: Knowing God's Peace by Paul Tautges
John Henderson on anxiety at DRBC</itunes:summary>
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Related resources:Running Scared by Ed Welch
When I'm Afraid by Ed Welch
A Small Book on Anxious Heart by Ed </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom share common mistakes that counselors make and how to avoid them. <br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Abuse-Biblical-Identifying-Domestic-Helping/dp/1629956945?crid=33OYJDZDUWKZJ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PJe2jqztpxn3_agdw2ntQz72nY4Cw0b047_RRyGyedT2b9_lS722_qhgcOtDIjqW3zTLIItPNlwcVDZhpvQxX1r1meyxLwVTqSVBFIRa8UkABavXMJIcT5BU9yVTwC0XN0aHVQinYhq4Gh3xcFVOdxYBcY1p1giSMs2-zbOiierq9UTPd-cbBUksS2cvZdgBUxHUNQ7O71CuVnRRlYuI5ZWJyMOtgznoLTnakO13TqI.O39jRLrNyUnZ-JSZjkQ29S5iCz2wm7zTAM2-9n0x45w&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=darby+strickland&amp;qid=1730487997&amp;sprefix=darby+stricklan%2Caps%2C111&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is It Abuse?</a> by Darby Strickland</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Garrett Kell, and Hayley Satrom share common mistakes that counselors make and how to avoid them. <br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Abuse-Biblical-Identifying-Domestic-Helping/dp/1629956945?crid=33OYJDZDUWKZJ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PJe2jqztpxn3_agdw2ntQz72nY4Cw0b047_RRyGyedT2b9_lS722_qhgcOtDIjqW3zTLIItPNlwcVDZhpvQxX1r1meyxLwVTqSVBFIRa8UkABavXMJIcT5BU9yVTwC0XN0aHVQinYhq4Gh3xcFVOdxYBcY1p1giSMs2-zbOiierq9UTPd-cbBUksS2cvZdgBUxHUNQ7O71CuVnRRlYuI5ZWJyMOtgznoLTnakO13TqI.O39jRLrNyUnZ-JSZjkQ29S5iCz2wm7zTAM2-9n0x45w&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=darby+strickland&amp;qid=1730487997&amp;sprefix=darby+stricklan%2Caps%2C111&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is It Abuse?</a> by Darby Strickland</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[How do we fight our anxiety and how we help others fight it?<br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish the mini-series on anxiety.<br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/session/engaging-with-god-in-the-midst-of-anxiety" rel="noreferrer noopener">Engaging with God in the Midst of Anxiety</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Small-Book-Anxious-Heart/dp/1645070360/ref=sr_1_1?crid=38KPCZJWAAP6W&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.WNJyj3fcwFvGBhz6MZTCPBLCSvCriqucxVuZBx3lg2322aL_mSM91YuNJdap3MxE2Dcw6RrM_SRokssG8Qf8DgrPadBRIFN_Xsaa1xqjaHv69d6OQCF1YUhXIHKZuKysFmXa4Cg7bstg5wlOu4cEzQ.FDafVMlFRmkmf6vXVVtZtPTh_II9iooPdIKk-IbSJ9g&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Ed+Welch+Anxious+heart&amp;qid=1728340720&amp;sprefix=ed+welch+anxious+hear%2Caps%2C121&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Small Book on Anxious Heart</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Knowing-Peace-31-Day-Devotionals/dp/1629956228/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1016BJVAFIRXE&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.A6IyuzT2yxInizhM_nPvILTWCTKHA2KVRYmfo4v6G2h3qMdxM92SIzTU7ynUu-ReqvJNj6iWLLI3-689enXL5a-TcItQ55IQJY5ND9T2Y-2LFc_VNPwJmqHQkbltsE_l.wB0HmpwwzDM6Ckp9lWdJYQAVXWzcJlRnCPKQv0Gn40U&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=anxiety%3A+knowing+God%27s+presence&amp;qid=1728340761&amp;sprefix=anxiety+knowing+god%27s+presenc%2Caps%2C107&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anxiety: Knowing God's Peace</a> by Paul Tautges</li></ul>]]>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish the mini-series on anxiety.
Related resources:Engaging with God in the Midst of Anxiety by Deepak Reju
A Small Book on Anxious Heart by Ed Welch
Anxiety: Knowing God's Peace by Paul Tautges</itunes:summary>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish the mini-series on anxiety.
Related resources:Engaging with God in the Midst of Anxiety by Deepak Reju
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        <![CDATA[What does the Bible say about anxiety?<br><br>Listen to the second episode of a mini-series on anxiety as Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss. <br><br>Related Resource:<br><ol><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/podcast/help-i-dont-know-where-my-anxiety-coming" rel="noreferrer noopener">Help, I don't know where my anxiety is coming from</a> by Mike Emlet and Winston Smith</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Anxious-World-Helen-Thorne/dp/1784986267/ref=sr_1_1?crid=QJ31MOPDYP1K&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7OFPfllqfX-JLWcpg_sTkg.Z2dabX4uz_QEfAFSZHdfJSak5gaO-gzy17Y97v7hfJI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Hope+in+an+anxious+world+%E2%80%93+Helen+Thorne&amp;qid=1727792348&amp;sprefix=hope+in+an+anxious+world+helen+thorne%2Caps%2C63&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hope in an Anxious World</a> – Helen Thorne</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Anxiety-Relief-Worried-People-ebook/dp/B00AQQXS2K/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2AFE91JCW3FZQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.V0Kqs4NzL1rQnlfbCxXUqC7klMU_ypkh16soBH0nAOQGc367FC5J3JCG1OxinxaF.wp5oBY-LT3vc5wPg1s_VxRKUhJCRcZVglaq3PiuafuE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=overcoming+anxiety+%E2%80%93+David+Powlison&amp;qid=1727792373&amp;sprefix=overcoming+anxiety+david+powlison%2Caps%2C74&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcoming Anxiety</a> – David Powlison</li></ol>]]>
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        <![CDATA[What does the Bible say about anxiety?<br><br>Listen to the second episode of a mini-series on anxiety as Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss. <br><br>Related Resource:<br><ol><li><a href="https://www.ccef.org/podcast/help-i-dont-know-where-my-anxiety-coming" rel="noreferrer noopener">Help, I don't know where my anxiety is coming from</a> by Mike Emlet and Winston Smith</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Anxious-World-Helen-Thorne/dp/1784986267/ref=sr_1_1?crid=QJ31MOPDYP1K&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7OFPfllqfX-JLWcpg_sTkg.Z2dabX4uz_QEfAFSZHdfJSak5gaO-gzy17Y97v7hfJI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Hope+in+an+anxious+world+%E2%80%93+Helen+Thorne&amp;qid=1727792348&amp;sprefix=hope+in+an+anxious+world+helen+thorne%2Caps%2C63&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hope in an Anxious World</a> – Helen Thorne</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Anxiety-Relief-Worried-People-ebook/dp/B00AQQXS2K/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2AFE91JCW3FZQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.V0Kqs4NzL1rQnlfbCxXUqC7klMU_ypkh16soBH0nAOQGc367FC5J3JCG1OxinxaF.wp5oBY-LT3vc5wPg1s_VxRKUhJCRcZVglaq3PiuafuE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=overcoming+anxiety+%E2%80%93+David+Powlison&amp;qid=1727792373&amp;sprefix=overcoming+anxiety+david+powlison%2Caps%2C74&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Overcoming Anxiety</a> – David Powlison</li></ol>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2024 10:07:46 -0400</pubDate>
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Listen to the second episode of a mini-series on anxiety as Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss.
Related Resource:
Help, I don't know where my anxiety is coming from by Mike Emlet and Winston Smith
Hope in an Anxious World – Helen Thorne
Overcoming Anxiety – David Powlison</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>What does the Bible say about anxiety?
Listen to the second episode of a mini-series on anxiety as Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss.
Related Resource:
Help, I don't know where my anxiety is coming from by Mike Emlet and Winston Smith
H</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[Anxiety is the spiritual x-ray that God uses to reveal who or what you worship. <br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start the first of three episodes on anxiety.<br><br>Related resources<ol><li><a href="https://delraybaptist.org/resources/seminars/anxiety-fear-and-the-gospel/" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Henderson on anxiety at DRBC</a></li><li>Ed Welch's Running Scared and When I'm Afraid</li></ol>]]>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start the first of three episodes on anxiety.
Related resourcesJohn Henderson on anxiety at DRBC
Ed Welch's Running Scared and When I'm Afraid</itunes:summary>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start the first of three episodes on anxiety.
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        <![CDATA[Related resources:<br><ul><li><a href="https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/</a></li><li>C4 announcement<ul><li>C4 is a group of like-minded Christian counseling centers across the country that are joining together to foster a spirit of mutual edification and encouragement among its members by providing opportunities for care, consultation, content collaboration, and continuing education. If you’re interested in learning more about C4, visit our <a href="https://ccccollab.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener">website</a>.</li></ul></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Related resources:<br><ul><li><a href="https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/</a></li><li>C4 announcement<ul><li>C4 is a group of like-minded Christian counseling centers across the country that are joining together to foster a spirit of mutual edification and encouragement among its members by providing opportunities for care, consultation, content collaboration, and continuing education. If you’re interested in learning more about C4, visit our <a href="https://ccccollab.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener">website</a>.</li></ul></li></ul>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>Related resources:
https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/
C4 announcementC4 is a group of like-minded Christian counseling centers across the country that are joining together to foster a spirit of mutual edification and encouragement among its members by providing opportunities for care, consultation, content collaboration, and continuing education. If you’re interested in learning more about C4, visit our website.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Related resources:
https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Hayley, and Garrett interview Esther Liu about shame and how pastors and counselors can view shame in the light of Scripture and the gospel.<br><br>Related Resources<ol><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935273981?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=ll1&amp;tag=ccef08-20&amp;linkId=ae9f98ed8bf4ca864374a772a9c0c16d&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shame Interrupted: How God Lifts the Pain of Worthlessness and Rejection</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/shame_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shame: Being Known and Loved</a> by Esther Liu</li></ol>]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Hayley, and Garrett interview Esther Liu about shame and how pastors and counselors can view shame in the light of Scripture and the gospel.<br><br>Related Resources<ol><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935273981?ie=UTF8&amp;linkCode=ll1&amp;tag=ccef08-20&amp;linkId=ae9f98ed8bf4ca864374a772a9c0c16d&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shame Interrupted: How God Lifts the Pain of Worthlessness and Rejection</a> by Ed Welch</li><li><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/shame_31dd" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shame: Being Known and Loved</a> by Esther Liu</li></ol>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:02:27 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Hayley, and Garrett interview Esther Liu about shame and how pastors and counselors can view shame in the light of Scripture and the gospel.
Related ResourcesShame Interrupted: How God Lifts the Pain of Worthlessness and Rejection by Ed Welch
Shame: Being Known and Loved by Esther Liu</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Hayley, and Garrett interview Esther Liu about shame and how pastors and counselors can view shame in the light of Scripture and the gospel.
Related ResourcesShame Interrupted: How God Lifts the Pain of Worthles</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>On Pornography Part 3 (Ep. 11)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>On Pornography Part 3 (Ep. 11)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[Reconciliation after confessing a struggle of pornography can be difficult. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish up a series on pornography as they lay out principles for godly reconciliation. <br><br>Resources for Show 3 - Dating and Marriage <ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rescue-Plan-Charting-Prisoners-Pornography/dp/1629953830/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1NDFWO1MHJKQH&amp;keywords=rescue+plan+deepak+reju&amp;qid=1700043827&amp;sprefix=Deepak+Reju+%2Caps%2C83&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rescue Plan</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rescue-Skills-Essential-Restoring-Sexually/dp/1629959057/ref=pd_bxgy_img_sccl_1/142-0376272-1618758?pd_rd_w=emdZJ&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_r=8MBW01SCPDM4F00N1MSA&amp;pd_rd_wg=hlDAq&amp;pd_rd_r=aa308b90-afc0-4064-8017-eee167336a5d&amp;pd_rd_i=1629959057&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rescue Skills</a> by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Redeem-Your-Marriage-Husbands-Pornography/dp/1645072258/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Y5456AJOXN7Y&amp;keywords=curtis+solomon&amp;qid=1700043879&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=Curtis+Solom%2Cstripbooks%2C81&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Redeem Your Marriage: Hope for Husbands Who Have Hurt Through Pornography </a> by Curtis Solomon</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Reclaim-Your-Marriage-Grace-Pornography/dp/1645072274/ref=pd_bxgy_img_sccl_1/142-0376272-1618758?pd_rd_w=2hB11&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_r=MK6FM7NS5655MY0DTNAR&amp;pd_rd_wg=l8KKr&amp;pd_rd_r=2905c436-9b74-4c21-b40c-01ca10e518ea&amp;pd_rd_i=1645072274&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reclaim Your Marriage: Grace for Wives Who Have been Hurt by Pornography</a> by Jenny Solomon</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Reconciliation after confessing a struggle of pornography can be difficult. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish up a series on pornography as they lay out principles for godly reconciliation. <br><br>Resources for Show 3 - Dating and Marriage <ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rescue-Plan-Charting-Prisoners-Pornography/dp/1629953830/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1NDFWO1MHJKQH&amp;keywords=rescue+plan+deepak+reju&amp;qid=1700043827&amp;sprefix=Deepak+Reju+%2Caps%2C83&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rescue Plan</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rescue-Skills-Essential-Restoring-Sexually/dp/1629959057/ref=pd_bxgy_img_sccl_1/142-0376272-1618758?pd_rd_w=emdZJ&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_r=8MBW01SCPDM4F00N1MSA&amp;pd_rd_wg=hlDAq&amp;pd_rd_r=aa308b90-afc0-4064-8017-eee167336a5d&amp;pd_rd_i=1629959057&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rescue Skills</a> by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Redeem-Your-Marriage-Husbands-Pornography/dp/1645072258/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1Y5456AJOXN7Y&amp;keywords=curtis+solomon&amp;qid=1700043879&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=Curtis+Solom%2Cstripbooks%2C81&amp;sr=1-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Redeem Your Marriage: Hope for Husbands Who Have Hurt Through Pornography </a> by Curtis Solomon</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Reclaim-Your-Marriage-Grace-Pornography/dp/1645072274/ref=pd_bxgy_img_sccl_1/142-0376272-1618758?pd_rd_w=2hB11&amp;content-id=amzn1.sym.7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_p=7746dde5-5539-43d2-b75f-28935d70f100&amp;pf_rd_r=MK6FM7NS5655MY0DTNAR&amp;pd_rd_wg=l8KKr&amp;pd_rd_r=2905c436-9b74-4c21-b40c-01ca10e518ea&amp;pd_rd_i=1645072274&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reclaim Your Marriage: Grace for Wives Who Have been Hurt by Pornography</a> by Jenny Solomon</li></ul>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 09:34:29 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>9Marks</author>
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      <itunes:duration>1891</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>Reconciliation after confessing a struggle of pornography can be difficult. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish up a series on pornography as they lay out principles for godly reconciliation.
Resources for Show 3 - Dating and Marriage Rescue Plan and Rescue Skills by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak Reju
Redeem Your Marriage: Hope for Husbands Who Have Hurt Through Pornography  by Curtis Solomon
Reclaim Your Marriage: Grace for Wives Who Have been Hurt by Pornography by Jenny Solomon</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Reconciliation after confessing a struggle of pornography can be difficult. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell finish up a series on pornography as they lay out principles for godly reconciliation.
Resources f</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>On Pornography Part 2 (Ep. 10)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:title>On Pornography Part 2 (Ep. 10)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[What you retreat to for refreshment turns into love. For some Christians, that's pornography. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell share some of the practical tools that can be useful in helping someone fight this difficult battle. <br><br>Resources resources<br><ol><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pornography-Fighting-Purity-31-Day-Devotionals/dp/1629953636/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3824NIVO733HS&amp;keywords=Deepak+Reju&amp;qid=1700043721&amp;sprefix=deepak+reju%2Caps%2C86&amp;sr=8-3" rel="noreferrer noopener">31-Day Devotional on Porn</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hide-Seek-When-Real-About/dp/1939946638/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2HF0QZ6QAPJIL&amp;keywords=john+freeman+books&amp;qid=1700043759&amp;sprefix=John+Freeman%2Caps%2C82&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hide &amp; Seek</a> by John Freeman</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1629959057?k=rescue%20skills%20deepak%20reju&amp;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_l_k1_1_19&amp;crid=OYSSVZ78K1QA&amp;sprefix=Deepak%20Reju%20Rescue%20" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rescue Skills: Essential Skills for Restoring the Sexually Broken</a> by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak Reju</li></ol>]]>
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        <![CDATA[What you retreat to for refreshment turns into love. For some Christians, that's pornography. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell share some of the practical tools that can be useful in helping someone fight this difficult battle. <br><br>Resources resources<br><ol><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pornography-Fighting-Purity-31-Day-Devotionals/dp/1629953636/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3824NIVO733HS&amp;keywords=Deepak+Reju&amp;qid=1700043721&amp;sprefix=deepak+reju%2Caps%2C86&amp;sr=8-3" rel="noreferrer noopener">31-Day Devotional on Porn</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hide-Seek-When-Real-About/dp/1939946638/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2HF0QZ6QAPJIL&amp;keywords=john+freeman+books&amp;qid=1700043759&amp;sprefix=John+Freeman%2Caps%2C82&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&amp;psc=1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hide &amp; Seek</a> by John Freeman</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1629959057?k=rescue%20skills%20deepak%20reju&amp;ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_l_k1_1_19&amp;crid=OYSSVZ78K1QA&amp;sprefix=Deepak%20Reju%20Rescue%20" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rescue Skills: Essential Skills for Restoring the Sexually Broken</a> by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak Reju</li></ol>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2024 10:39:02 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>9Marks</author>
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      <itunes:duration>2292</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:summary>What you retreat to for refreshment turns into love. For some Christians, that's pornography. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell share some of the practical tools that can be useful in helping someone fight this difficult battle.
Resources resources
31-Day Devotional on Porn by Deepak Reju
Hide &amp;amp; Seek by John Freeman
Rescue Skills: Essential Skills for Restoring the Sexually Broken by Jonathan Holmes and Deepak Reju</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>What you retreat to for refreshment turns into love. For some Christians, that's pornography. In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell share some of the practical tools that can be useful in helping someone fight th</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>On Pornography Part 1 (Ep. 9)</title>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <podcast:episode>2</podcast:episode>
      <itunes:title>On Pornography Part 1 (Ep. 9)</itunes:title>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start a mini-series on pornography and how pastors and members can help one another fight the battle.<br><b></b><br><b>Resources for Show 1 - Porn Overview </b><br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Making-All-Things-New-Restoring/dp/1433556146/ref=sr_1_1?crid=P9EMSLEZQ9YL&amp;keywords=making+all+things+new+david+powlison&amp;qid=1700043492&amp;sprefix=David+Powlison++Making%2Caps%2C85&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">David Powlison’s book: </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Making-All-Things-New-Restoring/dp/1433556146/ref=sr_1_1?crid=P9EMSLEZQ9YL&amp;keywords=making+all+things+new+david+powlison&amp;qid=1700043492&amp;sprefix=David+Powlison++Making%2Caps%2C85&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Making All Things New: Restoring the Joy to the Sexually Broken</a><br><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/sexual-sin-and-the-wider-deeper-battle" rel="noreferrer noopener">David Powlison’s article: </a><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/sexual-sin-and-the-wider-deeper-battle" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexual Sin - The Wider and the Deeper Battle </a><br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Heart-Sexual-Sin-Promises/dp/1433574896/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BX3AV92TNG3Y&amp;keywords=Garrett+Kell+pure+in+heart&amp;qid=1700043698&amp;sprefix=garrett+kell+pure+in+heart%2Caps%2C80&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Garrett’s book </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Heart-Sexual-Sin-Promises/dp/1433574896/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BX3AV92TNG3Y&amp;keywords=Garrett+Kell+pure+in+heart&amp;qid=1700043698&amp;sprefix=garrett+kell+pure+in+heart%2Caps%2C80&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pure in Heart</a> <br><br><br><b>Strategies for Closing Off Access Points</b><br>Here are some practical steps to consider as you help an addict to get rid of his access points.   1.  Ask the struggler about every e-device he owns.   <br>2.  Encourage him or her to get a software monitoring program, such as Covenant Eyes, and put it on all his devices.   <br>3.  Get rid of standard web browsers and rely on a browser that is carefully monitored.   <br>4.  Get rid of the applications store. If a new app needs to be downloaded onto a tablet or phone, provide access only temporarily.   <br>5.  Use special restrictions to cut out the web browser and app store, set time limits, and so on. Make sure the restrictions code is known only to an accountability partner. If the struggler knows it, he or she will remove the restrictions in a moment of weakness and act out.   <br>6.  Get rid of all apps that have an embedded browser.<br><br>What’s the principle behind these six points?<br>We’re removing control from the believer who struggles with porn and giving it to others because he or she can’t steward the freedom of open access.]]>
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        <![CDATA[In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start a mini-series on pornography and how pastors and members can help one another fight the battle.<br><b></b><br><b>Resources for Show 1 - Porn Overview </b><br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Making-All-Things-New-Restoring/dp/1433556146/ref=sr_1_1?crid=P9EMSLEZQ9YL&amp;keywords=making+all+things+new+david+powlison&amp;qid=1700043492&amp;sprefix=David+Powlison++Making%2Caps%2C85&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">David Powlison’s book: </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Making-All-Things-New-Restoring/dp/1433556146/ref=sr_1_1?crid=P9EMSLEZQ9YL&amp;keywords=making+all+things+new+david+powlison&amp;qid=1700043492&amp;sprefix=David+Powlison++Making%2Caps%2C85&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Making All Things New: Restoring the Joy to the Sexually Broken</a><br><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/sexual-sin-and-the-wider-deeper-battle" rel="noreferrer noopener">David Powlison’s article: </a><a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/sexual-sin-and-the-wider-deeper-battle" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexual Sin - The Wider and the Deeper Battle </a><br><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Heart-Sexual-Sin-Promises/dp/1433574896/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BX3AV92TNG3Y&amp;keywords=Garrett+Kell+pure+in+heart&amp;qid=1700043698&amp;sprefix=garrett+kell+pure+in+heart%2Caps%2C80&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Garrett’s book </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Heart-Sexual-Sin-Promises/dp/1433574896/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BX3AV92TNG3Y&amp;keywords=Garrett+Kell+pure+in+heart&amp;qid=1700043698&amp;sprefix=garrett+kell+pure+in+heart%2Caps%2C80&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pure in Heart</a> <br><br><br><b>Strategies for Closing Off Access Points</b><br>Here are some practical steps to consider as you help an addict to get rid of his access points.   1.  Ask the struggler about every e-device he owns.   <br>2.  Encourage him or her to get a software monitoring program, such as Covenant Eyes, and put it on all his devices.   <br>3.  Get rid of standard web browsers and rely on a browser that is carefully monitored.   <br>4.  Get rid of the applications store. If a new app needs to be downloaded onto a tablet or phone, provide access only temporarily.   <br>5.  Use special restrictions to cut out the web browser and app store, set time limits, and so on. Make sure the restrictions code is known only to an accountability partner. If the struggler knows it, he or she will remove the restrictions in a moment of weakness and act out.   <br>6.  Get rid of all apps that have an embedded browser.<br><br>What’s the principle behind these six points?<br>We’re removing control from the believer who struggles with porn and giving it to others because he or she can’t steward the freedom of open access.]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2024 05:01:11 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start a mini-series on pornography and how pastors and members can help one another fight the battle.

Resources for Show 1 - Porn Overview 
David Powlison’s book: Making All Things New: Restoring the Joy to the Sexually Broken
David Powlison’s article: Sexual Sin - The Wider and the Deeper Battle 
Garrett’s book Pure in Heart 
Strategies for Closing Off Access Points
Here are some practical steps to consider as you help an addict to get rid of his access points.   1.  Ask the struggler about every e-device he owns.   
2.  Encourage him or her to get a software monitoring program, such as Covenant Eyes, and put it on all his devices.   
3.  Get rid of standard web browsers and rely on a browser that is carefully monitored.   
4.  Get rid of the applications store. If a new app needs to be downloaded onto a tablet or phone, provide access only temporarily.   
5.  Use special restrictions to cut out the web browser and app store, set time limits, and so on. Make sure the restrictions code is known only to an accountability partner. If the struggler knows it, he or she will remove the restrictions in a moment of weakness and act out.   
6.  Get rid of all apps that have an embedded browser.
What’s the principle behind these six points?
We’re removing control from the believer who struggles with porn and giving it to others because he or she can’t steward the freedom of open access.</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell start a mini-series on pornography and how pastors and members can help one another fight the battle.

Resources for Show 1 - Porn Overview 
David Powlison’s book: Making All</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>On Wayward Children, with Stuart Scott (Ep.8)</title>
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        <![CDATA[Seeing your children to come to faith should be every parent's desire. But what happens when they don't? In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview Stuart Scott about his new book, <a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/wayward-children" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope</a>.<br><br>Related resources:<br><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/wayward-children" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope</a>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Seeing your children to come to faith should be every parent's desire. But what happens when they don't? In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview Stuart Scott about his new book, <a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/wayward-children" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope</a>.<br><br>Related resources:<br><a href="https://www.prpbooks.com/book/wayward-children" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope</a>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>Seeing your children to come to faith should be every parent's desire. But what happens when they don't? In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview Stuart Scott about his new book, Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope.
Related resources:
Wayward Children: Finding Peace, Keeping Hope</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Seeing your children to come to faith should be every parent's desire. But what happens when they don't? In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell interview Stuart Scott about his new book, Wayward Children: Finding </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[Christians expect strict confidentiality when speaking of their own sins. But is that good for them?<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss how to shepherd secrets for gospel purposes.<br><br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/9marks-publications/products/discipling-how-to-help-others-follow-jesus" rel="noreferrer noopener">Discipling</a> by Mark Dever</li><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/9marks-publications/products/is-it-loving-to-practice-church-discipline" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is It Loving to Practice Church Discipline?</a> Jonathan Leeman</li><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/9marks-publications/products/church-membership" rel="noreferrer noopener">Church Membership</a> by Jonathan Leeman</li><li><a href="https://www.9marks.org/article/youre-a-pastor-not-a-therapist/" rel="noreferrer noopener">You’re a Pastor, Not a Therapist</a> by Jeremy Pierre</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Christians expect strict confidentiality when speaking of their own sins. But is that good for them?<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss how to shepherd secrets for gospel purposes.<br><br><br>Related resources:<ul><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/9marks-publications/products/discipling-how-to-help-others-follow-jesus" rel="noreferrer noopener">Discipling</a> by Mark Dever</li><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/9marks-publications/products/is-it-loving-to-practice-church-discipline" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is It Loving to Practice Church Discipline?</a> Jonathan Leeman</li><li><a href="https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/9marks-publications/products/church-membership" rel="noreferrer noopener">Church Membership</a> by Jonathan Leeman</li><li><a href="https://www.9marks.org/article/youre-a-pastor-not-a-therapist/" rel="noreferrer noopener">You’re a Pastor, Not a Therapist</a> by Jeremy Pierre</li></ul>]]>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2024 05:00:09 -0400</pubDate>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss how to shepherd secrets for gospel purposes.
Related resources:Discipling by Mark Dever
Is It Loving to Practice Church Discipline? Jonathan Leeman
Church Membership by Jonathan Leeman
You’re a Pastor, Not a Therapist by Jeremy Pierre</itunes:summary>
      <itunes:subtitle>Christians expect strict confidentiality when speaking of their own sins. But is that good for them?
In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell discuss how to shepherd secrets for gospel purposes.
Related resources:Di</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[When members of the church suffer it provides a unique opportunity to show tangible love.<br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett Kell shares with Deepak Reju and Hayley Satrom practical ways of how God’s people loved his family during their season of suffering.<br><br><br>Related Resources: <br><ul><li><a href="https://www.9marks.org/conversations/special-episode-the-kells-story-part-1-counseling-talk-ep-5/" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kell Story Part 1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/edenkell" rel="noreferrer noopener">CaringBridge for Eden Kell</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2011/07/02/a-do-it-yourself-marriage-retreat/" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Heart Song Counseling</a></li><li><a href="https://cbl.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Center for Biblical Living</a></li><li><a href="https://fieldstonecounseling.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fieldstone Counseling</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crosscarecounseling.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cross Care Counseling</a></li><li><a href="https://anchoredhope.co/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anchored Hope</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[When members of the church suffer it provides a unique opportunity to show tangible love.<br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett Kell shares with Deepak Reju and Hayley Satrom practical ways of how God’s people loved his family during their season of suffering.<br><br><br>Related Resources: <br><ul><li><a href="https://www.9marks.org/conversations/special-episode-the-kells-story-part-1-counseling-talk-ep-5/" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kell Story Part 1</a></li><li><a href="https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/edenkell" rel="noreferrer noopener">CaringBridge for Eden Kell</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2011/07/02/a-do-it-yourself-marriage-retreat/" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li><a href="https://www.heartsongcounseling.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Heart Song Counseling</a></li><li><a href="https://cbl.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Center for Biblical Living</a></li><li><a href="https://fieldstonecounseling.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fieldstone Counseling</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crosscarecounseling.com/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cross Care Counseling</a></li><li><a href="https://anchoredhope.co/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anchored Hope</a></li></ul>]]>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett Kell shares with Deepak Reju and Hayley Satrom practical ways of how God’s people loved his family during their season of suffering.
Related Resources: 
The Kell Story Part 1
CaringBridge for Eden Kell
A Do-It-Yourself Marriage Retreat by Deepak Reju
Heart Song Counseling
The Center for Biblical Living
Fieldstone Counseling
Cross Care Counseling
Anchored Hope</itunes:summary>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Garrett Kell shares with Deepak Reju and Hayley Satrom practical ways of how God’s people loved his family during their season of</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[Pastors are not excluded from suffering. When trials come they uniquely become in need of their own pastoral care.<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, pastor Garrett Kell shares about trusting God amidst a season of his family’s suffering.<br><br>Related Resources: <a href="https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/edenkell" rel="noreferrer noopener">CaringBridge for Eden Kell</a>]]>
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        <![CDATA[Pastors are not excluded from suffering. When trials come they uniquely become in need of their own pastoral care.<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, pastor Garrett Kell shares about trusting God amidst a season of his family’s suffering.<br><br>Related Resources: <a href="https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/edenkell" rel="noreferrer noopener">CaringBridge for Eden Kell</a>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>Pastors are not excluded from suffering. When trials come they uniquely become in need of their own pastoral care.
In this episode of Counseling Talk, pastor Garrett Kell shares about trusting God amidst a season of his family’s suffering.
Related Resources: CaringBridge for Eden Kell</itunes:summary>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, pastor Garrett Kell shares about trusting God amidst a season of his family’s suffering.
Related Resourc</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[How can Christians best assess the seriousness of someone's suicidal feelings? And how should we walk with those left behind after the suicide of a loved one?<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley finish a mini-series on suicide.<br><br>Resources<ul><li> <a href="https://www.9marks.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Assessment-of-Suicide.docx" rel="noreferrer noopener">Assessment of Suicide</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li> <a href="https://www.9marks.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Funeral-Message-for-L.J.-who-committed-suicide-by-Pastor-Bob-Johnson.doc" rel="noreferrer noopener">Funeral Message for L.J. who committed suicide </a>by Pastor Bob Johnson</li><li> <a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/evaluating-a-person-with-suicidal-desires" rel="noreferrer noopener">Evaluating a Person with Suicidal Desires</a> by Aaron Sironi and Mike Emlet  JBC vol. 26:2 (2012)</li><li> <a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/medical-issues-and-psychiatric-issues-books/i-just-want-to-die-replacing-suicidal-thoughts-with-hope/" rel="noreferrer noopener">I Just Want to Die: Replacing Suicidal Thoughts with Hope</a> by David Powlision (NGP)</li><li> <a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/personal-growth-and-development-books/grieving-a-suicide-help-for-the-aftershock/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grieving a Suicide: Help for the Aftershock</a> by David Powlison (NGP)</li><li> <a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2019/09/11/counseling-those-impacted-by-a-loved-ones-suicide/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Counseling Those Impacted by Suicide</a> By Rachel Rosser</li><li> <a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2019/09/12/when-a-christian-dies-by-suicide/" rel="noreferrer noopener">When A Christian Dies of Suicide</a> by Jeff Forrey</li><li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Clouds-Deep-Mercy-Discovering/dp/1433561484/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15LKDE94990MQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AnEE9TG2WqzDjDaOneFMKLNUExb0_sGD-XVTPf50lOPuo5g2-x3levNat8mngFOmuaHlqHnbw-V59BlmrIwszQOo52Gx899VMVLQ9kj73X18ag7QQzneKlrpDtMsgXknuV4x5xH_7nTqLc3lOEiJS2vCWA9a1LmZjh1Y8VoRJHckY5FEYMZjsu4OyKMkRYsrRdVyJvqRwa3382A_sCZXmvHPRhBntHYNhYHDjG7aDbI.hHy2Ie3VYSAHtNt5YuDrXoqzGNv2uWgGLsowvlRk0uI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=deep+clouds+dark+mercy&amp;qid=1714397996&amp;sprefix=deep+clouds+dark+mercy%2Caps%2C74&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy </a>by Mark Vroegop</li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[How can Christians best assess the seriousness of someone's suicidal feelings? And how should we walk with those left behind after the suicide of a loved one?<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley finish a mini-series on suicide.<br><br>Resources<ul><li> <a href="https://www.9marks.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Assessment-of-Suicide.docx" rel="noreferrer noopener">Assessment of Suicide</a> by Deepak Reju</li><li> <a href="https://www.9marks.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Funeral-Message-for-L.J.-who-committed-suicide-by-Pastor-Bob-Johnson.doc" rel="noreferrer noopener">Funeral Message for L.J. who committed suicide </a>by Pastor Bob Johnson</li><li> <a href="https://www.ccef.org/jbc-article/evaluating-a-person-with-suicidal-desires" rel="noreferrer noopener">Evaluating a Person with Suicidal Desires</a> by Aaron Sironi and Mike Emlet  JBC vol. 26:2 (2012)</li><li> <a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/medical-issues-and-psychiatric-issues-books/i-just-want-to-die-replacing-suicidal-thoughts-with-hope/" rel="noreferrer noopener">I Just Want to Die: Replacing Suicidal Thoughts with Hope</a> by David Powlision (NGP)</li><li> <a href="https://newgrowthpress.com/minibooks/personal-growth-and-development-books/grieving-a-suicide-help-for-the-aftershock/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grieving a Suicide: Help for the Aftershock</a> by David Powlison (NGP)</li><li> <a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2019/09/11/counseling-those-impacted-by-a-loved-ones-suicide/" rel="noreferrer noopener">Counseling Those Impacted by Suicide</a> By Rachel Rosser</li><li> <a href="https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/2019/09/12/when-a-christian-dies-by-suicide/" rel="noreferrer noopener">When A Christian Dies of Suicide</a> by Jeff Forrey</li><li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Clouds-Deep-Mercy-Discovering/dp/1433561484/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15LKDE94990MQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AnEE9TG2WqzDjDaOneFMKLNUExb0_sGD-XVTPf50lOPuo5g2-x3levNat8mngFOmuaHlqHnbw-V59BlmrIwszQOo52Gx899VMVLQ9kj73X18ag7QQzneKlrpDtMsgXknuV4x5xH_7nTqLc3lOEiJS2vCWA9a1LmZjh1Y8VoRJHckY5FEYMZjsu4OyKMkRYsrRdVyJvqRwa3382A_sCZXmvHPRhBntHYNhYHDjG7aDbI.hHy2Ie3VYSAHtNt5YuDrXoqzGNv2uWgGLsowvlRk0uI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=deep+clouds+dark+mercy&amp;qid=1714397996&amp;sprefix=deep+clouds+dark+mercy%2Caps%2C74&amp;sr=8-1" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy </a>by Mark Vroegop</li></ul>]]>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley finish a mini-series on suicide.
Resources Assessment of Suicide by Deepak Reju
 Funeral Message for L.J. who committed suicide by Pastor Bob Johnson
 Evaluating a Person with Suicidal Desires by Aaron Sironi and Mike Emlet  JBC vol. 26:2 (2012)
 I Just Want to Die: Replacing Suicidal Thoughts with Hope by David Powlision (NGP)
 Grieving a Suicide: Help for the Aftershock by David Powlison (NGP)
 Counseling Those Impacted by Suicide By Rachel Rosser
 When A Christian Dies of Suicide by Jeff Forrey
 Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy by Mark Vroegop</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[Helping someone with suicidal thoughts can be overwhelming. How should we develop a care plan for someone struggling with on-going suicidal thoughts?<br><br>In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley offer practical help about caring for suicidal members.]]>
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In this episode of Counseling Talk, Deepak, Garrett, and Hayley offer practical help about caring for sui</itunes:subtitle>
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