Phill Moran, and co-host Dalton sit down with Gal Sagie—co-founder and CEO of Hypernative—to unpack how real-time threat intelligence is reshaping crypto security. From North-Korean bridge hacks to stable-coin fraud, we explore why legacy cybersecurity controls fall short and what institutions need before moving serious capital on-chain.

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro – why blockchains are not automatically secure
01:40 Wallets, MPC, and access-control basics
05:25 The 1.5 B USD Bybit cloud breach autopsy
08:30 Detecting exploits before they fire (99 percent hit-rate)
12:45 “Safe-room” withdrawals and automated incident response
14:40 Bridges, lending protocols, and the riskiest DeFi rails
18:30 Founder-laptop hacks and the human weak link
22:55 Investor due diligence: security as a must-have
28:05 Stable-coin fraud and compliance gaps
34:00 Bitcoin treasuries, tokenization, and AI-agent payments
38:45 How Hypernative will deploy its 40 M USD Series A
47:50 Regulation, innovation, and why it’s a great time to build

KEY TAKEAWAYS
Different tech stack, different threats — endpoint AV won’t protect a multi-sig.

Seconds matter — Hypernative flags 99 percent of attacks minutes ahead of the exploit.

Operational risk now outweighs code risk — cloud misconfigs and compromised laptops topple well-audited protocols.

Fraud is the next frontier — stable-coin issuers need proactive actor-classification, not just compliance blacklists.

Institutional bar is rising — real-time monitoring and automated policy enforcement are becoming investor requirements.

Traditional asset managers control the world’s largest pools of capital. How—and when—will they deploy it into digital assets? Phill Moran and Dalton Cole interview Christian Pellegrino, Director & Head of Digital Assets at Alpha FMC, to map the exact operational, regulatory, and economic triggers that move institutions from research to execution.

We discuss how the CCSS compares to traditional frameworks, like PCI DSS.

Jose joins us to talk through how they are tackling this at Tungsten Custody Solutions.

As the solution to this - Kevin Hoang is building EQ Exchange, a crypto exchange where all of the financials are made available to users in real time.

Today Aaron joins us to talk about the state of crypto regulations, what is unlocked because of regulations, their platform, and reflecting on the past year and a half since his Congressional testimony.

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The conversation spans a variety of compelling topics, including the current state of the crypto market, the historical parallels to past tech bubbles, and the potential pathways to recovery. Discussions cover the impact of regulatory shifts, the role of governance tokens, and the pressing need for genuine utility in crypto innovations.

Key highlights include a discussion on the real-world utility of cryptocurrencies during financial crises, the implications of privacy coins in a surveilled world, and the evolving nature of market strategies from automated systems to dynamic, responsive trading.

Tune in for a deep dive into how the crypto market is adapting to the complexities of regulation, market dynamics, and the search for lasting value in a rapidly evolving financial landscape.

We chat with Robert Swarthout from Teton Crypto Capital, where he elucidates his view on commercial use cases for crypto.

Convince Me is a podcast where we are exploring where crypto is actually useful.

Chapters

00:00 Intro
02:24 The Need for Regulations
04:19 Examples of Tokenization
08:38 Tokenizing Fund Vehicles
14:54 The Impact of Regulations
17:38 Use Cases: Polymarket and Helium Network
22:31 Tokenization of Car Titles
25:22 Tokenization of Real Estate
28:43 Enhancing Investment Strategies with Tokenization
34:59 Tokenization and the Equities Market
36:19 The Role of Blockchains in Tokenization
37:47 The Value of Blockchain Technology and Tokenization
44:00 The Potential of Stablecoins for Cross-Border Payments
49:35 The Role of Layer One and Layer Two Networks
01:09:23 Challenges and Opportunities in the Regulatory Environment

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