We're drowning in information and starving for judgment. Every scroll, every AI-generated answer, every "trust me" from an institution that used to earn it - it's all pulling us toward outsourcing our thinking to someone, or something, else.

Bethan Winn, critical thinking specialist and author of The Human Edge: Critical Thinking in the Age of AI, joins Dr Luella Forbes for this bonus edition to make the case that the antidote isn't more information. It's a skill we can actually build.

In this episode, Bethan breaks down what critical thinking really means (hint: it's not criticizing), why courage - not intelligence - is the piece most people miss, and how to tell what's true when Google itself can't be trusted to tell you anymore. Along the way: the "frog in boiling water" trap at work, why confirmation bias is the enemy of good decisions, and a simple model you can use to think more clearly under pressure.

In this episode:

00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction: Luella introduces this bonus edition with critical thinking specialist Bethan Winn.

00:01:00 - What Critical Thinking Actually Means: Bethan breaks it down into skills, knowledge, and attitude - and why courage is the one we forget.

00:02:05 - What Should You Actually Think Critically About?: Why it depends on your values, and why there's no judgment in what you choose to care about.

00:03:12 - The Frog in Boiling Water: How we normalise bad job situations simply because we're already in them.

00:05:00 - Why Critical Thinking Is Getting Harder: Noise, busyness, and the quiet influence of AI-driven recommendation engines on our "free will."

00:07:21 - Comfortable vs. True: Bethan's Venn diagram for the real question behind every hard decision.

00:09:38 - Overthinking & the Education System: Why young people struggle with ambiguity - and who's really to blame.

00:10:17 - Fact-Checking in the Age of AI: Fabricated references, mangled sources, and what happens as Google shifts to AI-chat search.

00:14:31 - Confirmation Bias & Holding Beliefs Lightly: Why changing your mind shouldn't feel like losing.

00:15:16 - Brené Brown, Adam Grant & The Courage to Be Wrong: What it looks like when experts model intellectual humility in public.

00:18:26 - How to Actually Check What's True: Credibility, source, and asking what the writer wants you to think.

00:21:41 - Where to Start Building the Skill: Curiosity, rigor, and Bethan's PZZNT decision model.

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What does HR actually do, and why does it matter so much in organisations that change lives? Mandy Cann is General Manager of Partnering and Employee Relations at Mission Australia. She leads HR partnering, employee relations, remuneration and organisational design for a national charity of around 2,700 employees and 1,500 volunteers.

Mandy’s path to the top of HR wasn’t a straight line. She dreamed of being a teacher, then worked through finance, marketing, local government, her own consultancy, a criminology degree and the Royal Flying Doctor Service, before returning to Mission Australia in a bigger role. If you’ve ever wondered whether a winding career can still lead somewhere you love, this one’s for you.

In this episode

Mandy and Luella talk about what HR business partners actually do day to day, and how HR supports frontline teams working in homelessness, mental health, aged care and youth detox services. Mandy explains how she approaches employee relations as a collaborative relationship with unions rather than a battle, and why Mission Australia hires people with lived experience of addiction, knowing the risks that come with it. She also shares the hardest moment of her career, what being a middle child taught her about ambition, and why she went back to an organisation she’d already left.

Episode highlights

00:34 - Who Mission Australia is and the communities it serves

07:02 - Do you need to be Christian to work at a Christian charity?

08:05 - What a General Manager of Partnering and Employee Relations does day to day

09:46 - What HR is really there for: walking alongside managers

13:31 - HR in high-risk frontline services, from aged care to youth detox

16:38 - Why Mandy’s role is all about managing risk and giving leaders options

18:45 - A childhood dream of teaching (and a blackboard from Santa)

20:12 - From finance and hotel reception to HR at Brisbane City Council

21:29 - Finishing a Master’s in Employment Law with a six-month-old

23:55 - Employee relations, enterprise bargaining and working with unions

30:02 - Building a lived expertise workforce

31:29 - The hardest time: leaving government and starting a consultancy

33:00 - A criminology degree and a career crossroads

33:54 - Working at the Royal Flying Doctor Service during COVID

38:08 - The strengths behind her success: strong women and middle child drive

42:56 - The best career advice she’s ever received

Resources

Mission Australia: missionaustralia.com.au

Mandy Cann LinkedIn

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Did you know what you wanted to be when you left school? Most of us didn't, and plenty of the most interesting careers are ones nobody ever told us existed.

Procurement is one of them. It's the work behind the poles, wires and contracts that keep the lights on, yet almost nobody grows up dreaming of doing it.

In this episode, Dr Luella Forbes reconnects with Glen Moloney, General Manager of Procurement and Supply at one of Queensland's largest energy providers, who she met during their MBA. Glen unpacks what procurement actually involves, from sourcing and negotiating contracts to managing the supply of everything a big energy network needs, and why commercial acumen and storytelling are so important in the role. He shares a career built by saying yes: a TNT scholarship that took him to the UK, a visa mix-up in Amsterdam he calls "a comedy of errors", helping set up the procurement arm for the Ford Mazda joint venture in Nanjing, China, and building a centralised procurement function at Virgin Australia before running Virgin Cargo. Along the way he reflects on transferable skills, why the right environment changes everything, leading people through change, and the values that have guided every big decision.

In this episode:

00:00:40 - What a general manager of procurement and supply actually does
00:03:57 - Supplying infrastructure across a state the size of Queensland, from poles and wires to vegetation clearing
00:08:23 - The skills procurement needs: commercial acumen, contract know-how and storytelling
00:16:47 - How AI is reshaping procurement and where humans stay in the loop
00:19:12 - "Nobody grows up wanting to be a chief procurement officer" and how Glen picked his degree
00:21:37 - A TNT scholarship and six months studying in the UK
00:26:07 - Moving to Amsterdam and an unexpected visa story
00:28:02 - Helping set up procurement for the Ford Mazda joint venture in Nanjing, China, and what it taught him about culture
00:33:44 - Moving to Brisbane and taking transferable skills into financial services at Suncorp
00:37:15 - Joining Virgin Australia to build a centralised procurement function
00:41:15 - Same skills, different environment: why support and mandate change everything
00:43:04 - Leading people through change with honesty and time to decide
00:47:09 - Airport negotiations and running Virgin Cargo, a full-circle moment
00:49:12 - COVID, stepping away and knowing when you've given all you can
00:50:28 - Looking after himself: the gym, Pilates and learning to meditate
00:57:39 - The best career advice Glen ever received
00:58:35 - What Glen is proudest of, and why it isn't about his career

Resources mentioned:

• Melbourne Meditation Centre - https://melbournemeditationcentre.com.au/
• Connect with Glen on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/glen-moloney-bb95a89/?isSelfProfile=false

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Ever felt like you're doing great work but nobody's noticing? Or that people only see you as "the IT person" or "the change person" when you know you can do so much more? You're not alone, and the good news is you don't have to wait for someone to tap you on the shoulder.

In this bonus episode, Luella sits down with Leanne Hughes to get practical about her new book, Work Fame. Forget paparazzi and red carpets. This is about building a reputation that attracts the good stuff: cool projects, great people, promotions and more money, all without the ego or the cringe of self-promotion.

In this episode

Following on from Leanne's main episode, this conversation is all about the how. Leanne shares her three spotlights for getting work famous, why a CV is really a list of things you don't want to do anymore, and how to break out of being typecast. Luella and Leanne dig into why times of change are the best moment to step up, how to stay visible when you work remotely, how leaders can help their teams shine, and the simple "walk of fame" practice you can try tomorrow.

Timestamps

00:39 What work fame really means (and what it doesn't)

01:47 Deciding what you want to be famous for

03:47 Breaking out of being pigeonholed

07:03 Why no one cares about your career as much as you do

08:19 Seeing a gap and filling it: tell people, then do it

10:21 Why change is the best time to step up

17:16 The three spotlights: contribution, conversations and coverage

18:54 Talking about your wins without feeling boastful

22:13 When the most dependable people get loaded up with more work

25:59 Building visibility when you work remotely

29:52 How leaders can help their team get work famous

31:29 One thing to try tomorrow: the walk of fame

36:04 The hierarchy in your own head

37:44 The story you tell yourself about who you want to be

Resources

Work Fame by Leanne Hughes, out now wherever you get your books here

Connect with Leanne on LinkedIn here

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Ever scroll past someone who seems miles ahead of you and wonder what you're doing wrong? This month, Luella and Michelle unpack why the answer is often about starting points, not effort.

"You actually can't compare yourself either way, right? Good or bad. Because you actually have no idea about where people have started from." Michelle Gander

Episode highlights:

00:00 - Introduction

01:30 - What Luella and Michelle have been up to, from a career workshop at Flinders University to a Brisbane trip

06:09 - Luella's storytelling for change talk and how you can join

07:34 - Recapping Angela Bliss, Sally Richardson and Leanne Hughes

10:17 - Why privilege? What sparked the topic

11:21 - What privilege means, from nepotism to meritocracy

13:20 - Networks, money and time: the hidden advantages in careers

16:34 - Class, schooling and the idea of "inheritocracy"

20:26 - The equity picture: why the right help looks different for everyone

22:01 - Layers of privilege and intersectionality

24:25 - Why representation matters and "you can't be what you can't see"

27:32 - Looking at inputs as well as outputs, and the privilege walk exercise

32:08 - Networking in smaller cities and what it means for new graduates

33:53 - Working with what you've got, and borrowing influence

36:29 - Building inclusive workplaces and giving everyone the same chance to plan for change

41:25 - Comparison and starting points: why it's not worth measuring yourself against others

43:44 - Finding a role model instead

44:31 - Book of the month: Work Fame by Leanne Hughes

Resources and links

Episodes mentioned:

Angela Bliss: youtu.be/SqOnFnxltww

Sally Richardson: youtu.be/REvc2Toutps

Leanne Hughes: youtu.be/EHJzjVbxhRc

Elizabeth Shaw on diversity and inclusion: youtu.be/cZ34gflZiYY

Fadzi Whande on diversity and inclusion at the UN: youtu.be/m0M4m1CIr0Q

Books mentioned:

Work Fame by Leanne Hughes

Inheritocracy by Eliza Filby

Luella's Storytelling for Change webinar, 7 October: luellaforbes.com/webinar-storytelling

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Everyone tells you their big break was luck. It wasn't. It was a habit of showing up with your head up instead of your AirPods in.

This week Luella sits down with thought leader, speaker and author Leanne Hughes to unpack the real story behind her new book, Work Fame - out 30 September. Forget the highlight reel of stages and airports. Leanne breaks down what actually got her noticed in a big organisation, and why the same mindset now powers her solo consulting business.

From a childhood dream of playing netball for Australia to a corporate role that inspired an entire book, Leanne's career story is a masterclass in creating your own momentum instead of waiting for a conveyor belt to move you. She and Luella talk through the reality of solopreneurship, the "walk of fame vs walk of tame" concept at the heart of her book, why being hard to explain might be your biggest asset in the age of AI, and the Canada workshop disaster that accidentally launched her first podcast.

"I think the world doesn't reward intent, you know? It rewards action." Leanne Hughes

Episode highlights:

00:00 - Introduction

00:36 - The reality of being a "thought leader" - what Leanne's week actually looks like behind the Instagram highlights

05:01 - Why being "unexplainable" is a strength, not a weakness, in the age of AI

10:38 - The idea behind Work Fame and how one piece of blunt career advice sparked it

13:36 - The "walk of fame vs walk of tame" - the mindset shift behind getting noticed

18:20 - Her formative years at Wicked Campers and the "seek forgiveness, not permission" lesson

24:38 - The workshop that went wrong in Canada - and accidentally launched her first podcast

34:03 - What success actually looks like to Leanne (and why she talks openly about money)

37:59 - Quickfire round - coffee order, WFH vs office, and the best career advice she's ever received

Resources:

Leanne Hughes Linked In - linkedin.com/in/leannehughes

Work Fame by Leanne Hughes: getworkfame.com

Leanne's Work Fame newsletter on Substack: workfa.me

Tim Ferriss's fear-setting exercise

Jim Rohn's advice: work harder on yourself than you do on your job

Episodes mentioned:

Bethan Winn on critical thinking in the age of AI: youtu.be/lEr0Onb4qQw

Dr Mia Carbon: youtu.be/0cEmeCbQpXk

Elizabeth Shaw on sponsorship: youtu.be/cZ34gflZiYY

All Career Advice and guest episodes: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ2uiJbm7wluvT39bLBd7ZKMU1US0Qonf

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Her path there wasn't linear. A commercial lawyer who moved to New York for what was meant to be one year and became ten, did a masters at Columbia, then joined Australia's diplomatic mission to the UN - working the campaign that got Australia elected to the Security Council, then serving on it herself. She came home, worked in Victorian state government, then jumped to Tennis Australia just months before COVID, ending up deep in the biosecurity and border coordination that got the Australian Open delivered safely. Corporate affairs at Yarra Trams, then Keolis, followed.

In this episode, Sally Richardson, Chief of Corporate Affairs at Keolis, joins Luella to unpack what corporate affairs actually involves, how a "no surprises" relationship with government clients holds up under pressure, and how staying open to unplanned opportunities took her from law to the UN to national transport leadership.

"Sitting behind the nameplate and thinking what an extraordinary privilege to represent Australia on that world stage." Sally Richardson

Episode highlights:

00:00 - Introduction

01:48 - What Corporate Affairs actually covers at a national transport operator

13:18 - Wanting to be a paediatrician, coming from a family of lawyers, and Arts/Law at Monash

15:50 - Starting out as a graduate lawyer

16:47 - Moving to New York for one year and staying ten

19:52 - Joining Australia's Mission to the UN and the Security Council campaign

29:26 - Luella's Aristotle framework on trust, and doing what you say you'll do

31:59 - Joining Tennis Australia weeks before COVID, and delivering the AO through border restrictions

40:56 - The strengths behind her career, and how she looks after her wellbeing

47:52 - The best career advice she's been given: be open to opportunities

48:53 - Her proudest career moment

Resources & links:

Sally’s LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/sallyweston

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Ever gone from being the outside expert everyone wanted in the room to being the person who actually has to live with the decision - and noticed people stopped listening to the exact same advice?

"I was telling them that their baby was ugly and that's the last thing they wanted to hear." Angela Bliss

In this episode:

00:00 - Introducing Angela Bliss, Head of Behavioural Science at NAB.

00:47 - What behavioural science actually means, and the ATM story that explains it best.

06:15 - Why personality traits predict behaviour better than demographics.

08:29 - Studying behavioural science at the London School of Economics.

13:25 - Childhood ambition: wanting to join the Queensland police at age eight, and the winding path through Japan, London and art gallery direction that followed.

19:35 - Reimagining a NAB bank branch as a design studio.

22:01 - Leaving NAB, going freelance, and being invited back to work on romance scams.

25:04 - The hardest period of her career: moving from consultant to insider, and why the same advice landed differently once she was "inside."

29:23 - Wellbeing, upbringing, and how both shaped her approach to career.

31:11 - Quick-fire round and the best career advice she's ever received.

Resources & links:

Angela Bliss on LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/angela-bliss-behavioural-design

Take the Big Five personality test: openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM

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Ever walked into a meeting already flat, distracted, or just not yourself - and wondered afterwards why the room felt off?

Turns out your team feels it too. And there's a name for it.

In this month's Career Advice episode, Dr Luella Forbes and Associate Professor Michelle Gander unpack the "leadership shadow" - the idea that what you say, measure, prioritise and how you act on your best and worst days shapes your team far more than you realise. Sparked by a listener email and a comment from August guest Ron Christianson, it's a practical framework for turning self-awareness into better leadership, plus a look at why big organisations seem to grow leaders differently, and Luella's exciting news about a brand new chapter in her own career.

In this episode:

00:00 - Michelle's quiet winter of reading (including her ongoing octopus obsession) and Luella's trip to Melbourne.

03:23 - Luella shares the new change leadership services she's launching today - training for middle managers and senior leaders, keynote sessions, and a methodology built from her doctoral research. Full details below.

07:06 - Quick take-aways from Ron Christianson, Asha Bhat and Janette O'Neill's episodes.

08:45 - What McDonald's, Mars and Mercedes get right about talent development - and what gets lost for people who've only ever worked in one place.

20:22 - A personal story about applying for - and not getting an interview for - a role, and what it revealed about how leaders are chosen.

24:48 - Luella breaks down the four-part framework - what you say, measure, prioritise and how you act - and why your bad day doesn't have to become your team's bad day.

32:29 - Michelle shares an example of a leader whose emotional, honest town hall speech landed better than a polished one would have.

Resources mentioned:

• 
  Dr Luella Forbes' new services - Lead Better Change at The Narratologist
• Gravitas by Dr Louise Mahler 
  
  

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She built a global sustainability function from the ground up, led people and culture transformation across Australia, the UK and Ireland, and was named interim Chief HR Officer for North America right as Covid upended everything about the role. Thirty years in, people still ask her the same question: how do you actually make sustainability work inside a business, instead of it just being a slogan on a slide.

Along the way there's a New York apartment lined up in the West Village, a view of the Chrysler Building, and Billy Joel tickets for Madison Square Garden - and then, as she puts it, "the Covid happened."

Janette O'Neill is a former Global Head of Sustainability at QBE, with a career spanning strategy consulting, culture and HR transformation, and sustainability leadership across Andersen Consulting, PwC, NAB and QBE in Australia, the UK, Ireland and the US. In this conversation, Janette talks with Dr Luella Forbes about how she built a global sustainability function from scratch, her interim posting to New York and the Covid timing that upended it, what she's learned about resilience versus adaptability, and what it's like navigating a workplace that assumes childless employees have nothing else pulling at their time.

Timestamps

00:01:06 - Meet Janette: Global Head of Sustainability at QBE

00:03:09 - A Deliberate Pause: Stepping Away On Her Own Terms

00:09:10 - Decoding Sustainability: Beyond the Paper Cups

00:13:44 - AI's Hidden Cost: Convenience vs Consequence

00:16:19 - From Art Curator to Andersen Consulting: How It All Started

00:32:07 - The New York Dream That Covid Cancelled

00:35:14 - Redefining Resilience: Why Adaptability Wins

00:38:54 - Success, Wellbeing and Life Without Kids at Work

00:44:34 - Quickfire Round

00:45:42 - What She's Proudest Of

Resources Mentioned:

Janette O’Neills LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/janette-o-neill-a60343/

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She arrived in Australia with a husband, a master's degree, and no career plan of her own. Within two decades she was running one of Western Australia's largest Aboriginal community-controlled organisations - pulling it back from massive debt, then leading it to a King's Birthday honour for service to the community she serves.

But the harder story isn't the title change. It's what came before it: convincing a traditional husband she needed to travel for work, rebuilding trust in a community that owed her nothing, and learning - the hard way, over email, in a restructure she still thinks about - that some conversations can only happen face to face.

This week, Luella sits down with Asha Bhat, CEO of Southern Aboriginal Corporation in Albany, WA, and recipient of the Medal of the Order of Australia (2022) for service to the Indigenous community of Western Australia. Asha moved from India to Australia in 2004, worked her way from finance officer to CEO during an organisational crisis, and has spent the years since building trust, capacity, and cultural connection across housing, legal services, and family violence support. She talks with Luella about leadership lessons learned the hard way, what "sorry business" means and what it teaches about grief and community, and how she's had to renegotiate ambition, marriage, and identity at every stage of her career.

Timestamps

00:00:53 - What Southern Aboriginal Corporation Actually Does. Asha breaks down the scope of the organisation - legal services, housing, mental health, and family violence support - and why every program is designed bottom-up with the community, not for it.

00:06:46 - The Restructure Mistake That Changed How She Leads. A hard lesson in delivering difficult news by email instead of in person - and why she's never done it again.

00:10:30 - What "Sorry Business" Means. Asha explains the Aboriginal community's approach to grief and mourning, and the parallels she sees with her own Indian cultural background.

00:21:03 - From Finance Officer to CEO in a Crisis. How Asha ended up leading the organisation she'd joined in an entry-level role, and what she changed first.

00:31:23 - Redefining Resilience and Success. Asha's take on what actually makes someone successful - and why it isn't a number, a title, or being the loudest person in the room.

Resources mentioned:

Southern Aboriginal Corporation: https://www.sacorp.com.au/

Asha Bhat on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/asha-bhat-oam-gaicd-46b9552/

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Most of us think of a crisis as something that happens to other people's companies. Then the media is outside the CEO's apartment, ringing the bell, and someone has to decide what gets said in the next five minutes.

That someone, for years, was Ron Christianson - and this week he tells us how he got there, what it actually feels like, and why the leaders who handle it best are usually the ones who've learned to listen first.

Ron is the founder of Credence Comms and Coaching, working across corporate affairs and leadership communication. Before going out on his own, he spent more than a decade inside McDonald's - rising from a communications role in Australia to a global position covering franchised markets across South America, Europe, the Middle East and Asia - before a strategic move to lead communications for Toys R Us Asia, right as Covid hit. Along the way there's also a language degree, a year teaching English in Korea, a "kismet" story about two careers landing in Hong Kong at once, and a front-row seat to the 2019 unrest and handover-era change in the city he called home for eight years. Luella and Ron talk trust, crisis communications, coaching leaders under pressure, and what it actually takes to build a career across four continents.

Timestamps

00:00:53 - What Credence Comms and Coaching actually does, and why Ron sees communication as a business-critical skill, not a soft one.

00:09:42 - What it's really like when the press is at the door, the boss is calling, and there's no margin for error.

00:27:24 - Ron on the languages and teaching path he almost took, and the year abroad that told him it wasn't for him.

00:58:07 - Resilience, listening, adaptability, empathy, and why celebrating success matters more than leaders think.

01:08:45 - The risk that took him to Australia, and why he'd take it again.

Resources

• 
  Ron Christianson - Credence Comms and Coaching 
• Connect with Ron on LinkedIn 

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Everyone wants a straight answer on whether AI is coming for their job. Dr Luella Forbes didn't have one either - not until she'd spent a month talking to three different people who do. What she took away instead is sharper - it's not AI taking anyone's job right now, it's the excuse it gives leaders who wanted to cut costs anyway.

In this monthly recap episode, Dr Luella Forbes and Associate Professor Michelle Gander sit down to unpack a month of AI conversations and cut through the noise around job security, hype, and what's actually worth worrying about.

Luella and Michelle speak about the challenges with AI adoption at scale, whether whole job categories are really at risk, and the specific skills - critical thinking, adaptability, and a healthy dose of scepticism - that will matter most as AI capability keeps climbing.

Timestamps

00:10:50 - Why this month became an AI month: Three guests in a row circled back to AI, and Luella admits she needed the reassurance as much as anyone.

00:13:15 - Is AI actually taking your job? The four-day-week debate, the layoffs blamed on AI that probably weren't, and the filing-cabinet argument for why roles change more than they disappear.

00:23:19 - Agentic AI, the models pulled over cybersecurity risk, and why lumping "AI" into one category misses the real threats.

00:27:21 - Why the sharpest AI users treat every answer with healthy cynicism - and why the craft of analysis isn't dead yet.

00:36:19 - The skill worth building isn't a technical one - it's the resilience to keep letting go of what you just learned.

00:41:00 - AI's uneven reach across countries, and why its impact on jobs is likely to hit women disproportionately harder.

00:46:18 - Just start: Matt Dunn's advice in a previous episode for getting over the fear of AI, and the ground rules for using it safely at work.

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Everyone wants a straight answer on whether AI is coming for their job. Matt Dunn doesn't give one - because there isn't one. What he gives instead is sharper: the people who get replaced won't be replaced by AI, they'll be replaced by colleagues who learned to use it first.

In this bonus episode, Dr Luella Forbes sits down with AI expert Matt Dunn to cut through the noise around AI adoption, job security, and what's actually worth worrying about.

Matt and Luella speak about the challenges with AI adoption, whether entire job categories are really at risk, to the specific skills - curiosity, critical thinking, human judgement - that will matter most as AI capability keeps climbing.

Timestamps

00:01:39 - Why most AI projects stall: It's rarely a technology problem - it's a passion project from middle management that leadership never understood or used themselves.

00:03:20 - Play first, optimise later: Matt's case for handing teams half a day a month to tinker with AI and deliberately try to break it.

00:06:47 - You don't need perfect systems to benefit from AI: How one person who knows how to use AI can outrun a legacy tech stack everyone already hates.

00:08:41 - Will AI actually take your job: The filing-cabinet analogy for why roles change but rarely disappear - and the real risk of refusing to engage at all.

00:11:44 - A real example: how one sales team used AI to sharpen tenders and proposals without cutting a single person from the team.

00:15:02 - When AI writing backfires: A beautifully written, entirely AI-generated proposal that fell apart the moment a human actually read it end to end.

00:17:05 - The skills worth building now: Why curiosity and adaptability matter more than any specific technical skill in a world this uncertain.

00:23:26 - Guarding against hallucinations and bias: Fabricated citations, unchecked assumptions, and the same "think about what the answer should be" test we used to apply to calculators.

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Bethan Winn is a critical thinking specialist, speaker and author of The Human Edge: Critical Thinking in the Age of AI, and through her business Human Skills Co she helps organisations figure out where the technology earns its keep and where it just gets in the way.

In this episode, Luella and Bethan talk through what happens when businesses let AI answer for them (and what it costs them when it gets it wrong), why offloading your "backstage" thinking work can quietly wear down your onstage skills, and a career that ran from Oxfam to a London classroom to building her own critical thinking practice from a Facebook post, prompted in part by a health scare that made the "someday" feel a lot more urgent.

Timestamps

00:05:33 - When AI answers for you: A quoted price, an "AI autobot," and why one bad automated reply was enough to lose a client for good.

00:10:39 - Outsourcing the thinking, not just the task: Catching herself two hours deep in a Claude chat for something that should've taken fifteen minutes.

00:14:09 - The patchwork trap: Why chunking everything into AI prompts can quietly replace the thinking it was supposed to support.

00:17:22 - An accidental expertise: How a university program she almost turned down turned into a career built on making dense, academic thinking make sense to anyone.

00:25:56 - Why listing your credentials doesn't build trust: The three things people actually judge you on, and why showing beats telling.

00:38:24 - The health scare that changed the timeline: A breast cancer scan turned "someday I'll go out on my own" into now.

Resources mentioned:

● The Human Edge: Critical Thinking in the Age of AI by Bethan Winn

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New AI tool, same old anxiety: am I using this properly, or badly, or barely at all? 

Matt Dunn has spent the past decade in the middle of exactly that problem. He started thinking seriously about automation more than ten years ago and has since moved into AI, now leading AI Programs at Quantum, an IT consulting firm, where he's personally trained over 4,000 people on what AI can actually do.

In this episode, Luella and Matt talk through why Automation implementations have traditionally struggled and how AI might change that, how to use AI to actually get better at your job instead of just faster, and a career focussed on working smarter, not just harder, that took him from a default commerce degree to coding a startup in his lunch break.

Timestamps

00:06:59 -  Challenges of AI implementation: The biggest misconception isn't the technology, it's how uncomfortable people feel changing the way they already work.

00:10:37 - Using AI to get better at what you do:  A simple habit that turns AI from a shortcut into something that actually improves your performance.

00:15:00 - An accidental career journey:  From wanting to be a dentist to a commerce and technology degree, chosen almost by accident.

00:19:19 - Turning down more money to follow his gut: Choosing people over pay, and the sister's advice that's stuck with him ever since.

00:27:27 - The automation imperative:  How a dinner conversation about robots turned into betting on automation before anyone else was.

00:30:05 - Automation work finally paying off: Why a technology that should have taken off a decade ago is only just catching up, thanks to generative AI.

Resources mentioned:

● Hard Fork podcast
● Superhuman newsletter

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Every few weeks, the AI conversation resets again - a new model, a new headline, a new reason to wonder whether the skills you've built still count. For people working inside large, regulated organisations, the question isn't abstract: it's showing up in budgets, headcount, and what "good work" even looks like now.

Mythili Baker has spent the last year answering that question for real. As Head of Data & AI at Aware Super - Australia's third-largest super fund - she's responsible for how one of the country's biggest pools of retirement savings uses AI safely, while leading the human side of that change. Before this, she spent 18 years at data and AI consultancy Altus, helping it grow from 17 people to 150.

In this episode, Luella and Mythili talk through what AI might change at work (and what it doesn't), the skill that matters more than ever right now, and the career instinct - saying yes, even when it's uncomfortable - that took her from a default degree choice to leading AI strategy for millions of members' retirement savings.

Timestamps

00:07:38 - AI Won't Fix Bad Judgement: The biggest AI challenge isn't the tool - it's adoption, change, and learning to sense-check what it gives you.

00:09:31 - When AI Gets It Wrong (Confidently): Why AI can be confidently incorrect, and what it takes to catch it - including knowing when your own expertise should override it.

00:14:01 - Building a Team for an AI World: What Mythili looks for in her team now, and why curiosity and attitude matter more than technical skill alone.

00:15:23 - From wanting to travel the world as a kid to a "default" commerce degree that solved the problem. 

00:19:35 - 18 Years at One Company: Growing alongside data and AI consultancy Altus from 17 people to 150, and the real opportunities that came with staying.

00:20:53 - Saying Yes to the Uncomfortable Move: Why comfort became the warning sign, and what finally pushed her into her current role at Aware Super.

Resources mentioned:

• Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg: https://www.penguin.com.au/books/lean-in-9780753541647

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In this June advice episode, Dr Luella Forbes and Associate Professor Michelle Gander explore how organisations communicate difficult news, how careers have changed, and why real employee engagement is much rarer than most organisations realise.

In this episode:

• What two different World Cup squad announcement approaches reveal about leadership values and communication
• Why the sequence of delivering difficult news matters as much as the message itself
• The traditional career is not dead - what the research on university students actually shows
• Portfolio, contemporary and hybrid careers: the differences, the trade-offs, and the financial realities
• Gallup's 2026 finding: only 1 in 5 employees globally are genuinely engaged at work
• What the best leaders do differently - without being prompted by systems or processes
• Book recommendation: Hidden Potential by Adam Grant
• Preview of July's AI-themed guest episodes

Resources mentioned:

• Gallup State of the Global Workplace 2026: https://www.gallup.com/workplace/349484/state-of-the-global-workplace.aspx
• Hidden Potential by Adam Grant: https://adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/

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In this episode:

• Simon explains what customer success actually means in a software business, and why making sure people get value from what they bought is its own discipline.
• He describes leading a customer success team across Asia Pacific and Japan for a US-headquartered company, and the realities of managing across time zones.
• He talks about what he looks for when hiring and developing managers: commercial experience, genuine curiosity, and the confidence to hold a room of senior people.
• He shares his non-linear route into tech, from wanting to be a physiotherapist to starting out in a junior role at Macquarie Bank.
• He reflects on the leadership lessons he learned the hard way, leading an inside sales team at MYOB as a first-time manager.
• He looks back on the culture at Google, where noble failures were celebrated and moonshot thinking was the norm.
• He explains why he thinks about work life blend rather than work life balance, and how he weaves family time into a demanding role.

Simon's career advice:

"Doing what you said you would do is important. But being consistent with that means that you build some real credibility and trust with the people that you've got around you."

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In this episode:

• Why a brand has to start from the real DNA and values of a company, or it becomes what Claudine calls blah blah marketing that consumers can feel is not true.
• How she built three different careers inside one company, moving from biology and research and development to market research to strategic marketing, each role created from nothing.
• What fourteen years in research and development taught her about failure, and why carrying the learning from each failed project into the next is what eventually succeeds.
• Why moving between disciplines gives you different cards to play, and how that helps you challenge silos and see the bottlenecks other people miss.
• Why leaders who cannot take being challenged will struggle in a volatile world, and how the need to be loved and right becomes the biggest threat to a business.
• How she rebuilt a marketing culture across 8,000 people at Royal Canin by proving the gap between internal and external brand perception with evidence, not stories.
• Why she believes you should be loyal to one person on earth, which is yourself, and what it means to define success as having fun rather than chasing ambition.
• How a working-class childhood as a miner's daughter shaped her resilience and her belief that everything is possible if you are honest about what you want.

Claudine's advice on building a career on your own terms:

"You have to be loyal to one person on earth, which is you."

Resources mentioned:

• Lumina (personality and team profiling tool referenced as part of Mars's leadership development) - link TBC, to be added before publishing
• Influencing Without Authority (leadership development approach referenced from Mars) - link TBC, to be added before publishing

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In this episode:

• Why Anita hires for soft skills before tech skills, and how she can tell within 10 minutes of an interview whether someone is right for her team.
• How asking questions at a superannuation legislation briefing led to her first proper job in product and marketing.
• Why doing an MBA after years of work experience is what made it valuable, because she could bring real context to every concept.
• Why working three days a week made Anita more productive, not less, and how constraint forced her to focus.
• Being a hard marker on yourself, and the cost and discipline of an internal critic that thinks about failures more than successes.
• Why "you can do it all" is a myth, and how Anita balances family-first priorities with leading a big team.
• Working through public speaking nerves with the discipline of MBA presentations, and the year she has decided to put herself out there.

Anita's career philosophy:

"I'm probably towards the end of my career, but I feel like I'm still at the start."

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In this episode:

• The identity work running through all three May conversations, and why every big career transition is also a psychological one.
• Why finding your place rarely happens in a straight line, and why people often need more than one career to find it.
• Self-identity versus how others see you, including what it feels like the first time someone calls you "Doctor".
• Grieving the version of yourself you didn't become, and why naming what's ending matters more than people realise.
• A working lifetime now holds four or five careers, and the rate of change is only quickening.
• How to do identity work practically: trusted advisors, an external coach or mentor, journalling, talking and writing your way to clarity.
• Why sensemaking takes time, and what change leaders get wrong when they skip the middle managers.
• Daniel Goleman's Emotional Intelligence as the book recommendation of the month.

"I was in mourning a bit, because I was kind of grieving the life that I thought I was going to have." - Luella Forbes

Resources mentioned:

• Daniel Goleman, Emotional Intelligence (25th anniversary edition)
• The Reconnect Project (Annette Brodie's charity, tackling Australia's digital divide)
• Career Stories May 2026 episodes with Fadzi Whande, Charity Becker and Annette Brodie

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In this episode:

• What the digital divide is and who it affects, including why 1 in 5 Australians currently cannot get online.
• How The Reconnect Project works: collecting donated phones, tablets and laptops, refurbishing them securely, and distributing them through over 130 social service agencies including women's shelters, homelessness services and refugee support organisations.
• How the repair and refurbishment process creates employment pathways for neurodivergent young adults, giving them skills and a real foothold in the tech industry.
• Why Annette designed The Reconnect Project as a social enterprise with income-generating business units, rather than relying on grant funding alone, and what that model means in practice.
• Annette's career journey from a failed first-year university course and years of experimentation to finding her calling in communications and waste avoidance, and how those threads eventually converged in The Reconnect Project.
• The moment she used the equity in her home mortgage to secure a shopfront for the charity, and what that decision required of her.
• Her experience of perinatal depression across two pregnancies, psychiatric hospitalisation and ECT treatment, and how those years shaped the resilience and empathy at the heart of her work.
• The career philosophy she developed in her 20s: the moment she felt comfortable in a job was the moment it was time to move on.

Annette's career philosophy:

"If any point in time I got scared of leaving, it's time to go. You've got to keep challenging yourself."

Resources mentioned:

• The Reconnect Project - thereconnectproject.com.au
• Australian Digital Inclusion Index - digitalinclusionindex.org.au
• Pay What It Takes campaign - paywhatittakes.com.au

Support The Reconnect Project:

• Donate financially at givenow.com.au/thereconnectproject. 

Donations over $2 are tax-deductible. Average cost to restore a device is $200.

• Donate a device by mail to: 

The Reconnect Project, 8 The Strand, Penshurst NSW 2222. All makes and models of phones and tablets accepted (any age or condition); laptops up to 8 years old. Perform a factory reset before sending to remove your personal data.

• Drop-off locations across Sydney (full list at thereconnectproject.com.au/donate): 

Bondi Junction (The Boot Factory, 27-33 Spring St), Hurstville Library (12-20 Dora St), Kogarah Library (Belgrave St), Lane Cove Council Civic Centre (48 Longueville Rd), Manly (Office of James Griffin MP, Shop 2, 2 Wentworth St), Maroubra (Lionel Bowen Library, 669-673 Anzac Parade), Marrickville (Among The Trees, 27 Sydney St, Saturdays 10am-4pm; or Reverse Garbage, 30 Carrington Rd), Matraville (Malabar Community Library, 1203 Anzac Parade), Northbridge (Office of Tim James MP, Shop 26/145-151 Sailors Bay Rd), Randwick (Margaret Martin Library, Royal Randwick Shopping Centre; or Sustainability Centre, 27 Munda St), Sutherland (Sutherland Shire Council Customer Service, 4-20 Eton St), Thornleigh (Community Recycling Centre, 29 Sefton Rd, Tue-Fri 8:30am-4pm, Sat 8:30am-12pm). Note: the Epping location is currently unavailable.

• Corporate or bulk donations (10 or more devices) - visit thereconnectproject.com.au/donate for the dedicated form.

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In this episode:

• Charity explains the real difference between organisational coaching, mentoring and consulting, and why being given a mentor when you need a coach can be devastating for the person on the receiving end.
• She describes coaching as "a flip" in who holds the expertise: the coach's role is to help people access the wisdom and capability they already have, not to share their own.
• Charity talks about the coaching industry's regulation problem, why ethics matter in a field where anyone can call themselves a coach, and what it looks like to say no to clients even when it costs you work.
• She and Luella discuss the bias towards extroverted behaviour in organisations, the challenges women face when asked to lead in ways that contradict what society has long told them, and the "double glazed glass ceiling" for women who are also introverts.
• Charity reflects on the double-edged sword of working for yourself, including the freedom, the self-motivation challenges, and what she misses about being in a team.
• She shares how a late ADHD diagnosis helped explain earlier struggles with university and formal education, and the unexpected career value of years spent in hospitality.
• She and Luella discuss financial security as the foundation for ethical decision-making at work, and why asking people to challenge the status quo without that foundation is unreasonable.
• Charity's best piece of career advice: do what makes your heart sing.

Charity's coaching philosophy:
"I help you remember that you have hard earned wisdom and ask you questions to draw that out of yourself. So it's a flip in. Who is the expert in the room?"

Resources mentioned:
• Megumi Miki - researcher and author on leadership and the double-glazed glass ceiling for women who are also introverts: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/double-glazed-glass-ceiling-megumi-miki
• IECL (Institute of Executive Coaching and Leadership) - global coaching training organisation: iecl.com

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• Dr Luella Forbes - Host

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• Dr Luella Forbes - Host
• Dinda Timperon - Guest

In this bonus episode of Career Stories, Dr Luella Forbes is joined by Dinda Timperon - Head of Cybersecurity Engineering at a major Australian wealth management organisation, RAAF veteran, and founder of Perth Women's Circle, a community of over 10,000 women focused on professional growth and development.

Having experienced burnout herself and watched it quietly erode teams across defence and cybersecurity, Dinda developed the REST framework to help leaders recognise and prevent burnout before it reaches breaking point.

In this episode:

• What burnout actually is - the three symptoms that must all be present: emotional exhaustion, cynicism and depersonalisation, and reduced personal efficacy.
• Why people doing purpose-driven work are 50% less likely to experience burnout.
• The "silent breach": why organisations invest in systems but overlook the people operating them.
• Three early warning signs to watch for in yourself and your team: cognitive drift, emotional changes, and shifts in behaviour.
• The REST framework - Recognise, Equip, Sustain, Thrive - as a practical tool for leaders building sustainable, high-performing teams.
• How to track physical, mental and social energy across the day, and use that knowledge to organise work more effectively.
• What to do if you think you're heading toward burnout: the question "what feels heavy right now?" and the seven types of rest.
• Why the promise that things will ease up after the project ends is never quite true - and what to do instead.
• The case for using the word "burnout" mindfully, and how to tell the difference between genuine burnout and exhaustion.

"organizations spend often depending on the size of the organization like millions of dollars on systems but they often forget about one aspect which is the most important aspect which is the people that have to operate the systems. I call it the silent breach." - Dinda Timperon

Resources mentioned:

• Dinda's REST framework - discussed in the episode.
• Seven types of rest - Saundra Dalton-Smith: TED Talk

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• What a growth mindset actually looks like in practice (it's not just positive thinking) 
• How to spot the difference between a fixed and growth mindset response to setbacks 
• The powerful idea that "your job description is the floor, not the ceiling" - Associate Professor Michelle Gander 
• Why finding flow, that state of total engagement and joy, matters for sustainable careers 
• Practical strategies for learning and growing without burning out 
• How to stay motivated when progress feels slow 

Resources mentioned:

• Above and Below the Line thinking: [Accountability and Mindset]
• Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi 

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

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Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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In this episode:

•       What omnichannel portfolio management actually means, and how Annelen's team connects Mercedes-Benz's digital channels, e-commerce and business architecture from customer awareness all the way through to retention.

•       How a childhood cello player who wanted to be a vet ended up in the luxury automotive industry, via a multicultural degree, a year abroad in the US at 15, time in France, and a Porsche internship that sparked her love of the product.

•       The moment the financial crisis derailed a signed job offer and how Annelen navigated her way back, through a smaller company, a promotion, a tyre company detour, and eventually the Mercedes-Benz trainee program.

•       What Annelen loves about working for Mercedes-Benz after almost 15 years, including the brand pride, the pioneering digital agenda, and the thrill of the annual product forum where new models are unveiled under strict secrecy.

•       Why Annelen completed a doctorate alongside two babies and a leadership career, what she found hardest about the process, and what it actually added to the way she thinks and works.

•       How returning from parental leave to find her whole division dissolved led, unexpectedly, to the best job she has had at the company.

•       The strengths Annelen credits for her success: perseverance, resilience, having a plan without being rigidly attached to it, and a deliberate choice to believe that whatever comes is the right thing.

•       How Annelen manages her mental health across an intense professional life, including presence with her children, playing cello, and building a positive mindset deliberately.

•       What success means to Annelen: family, team celebration, reaching a management level she is proud of, and learning to be happy where you are rather than always looking ahead.

Annelen's career philosophy:

"I believe that whatever comes is the right thing. So if something doesn't work out, I'm not getting really down. I believe, okay, then it's the right thing that I didn't get, for example, this job."

Resources mentioned:

•       Research on positive mindset and gratitude journalling

•       Thinking on the alternatives to introverts and extraverts

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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In this episode:

• What a partner at a big four consulting firm actually does, and why the role is as much about people and collaboration as it is about expertise.
• The work Elizabeth does in workplace culture reviews, including why she is drawn to the high-stakes moments when something has gone wrong.
• How Elizabeth's unconventional early career, from an arts degree and a nomadic NGO role to representing Australia at the UN, shaped the skills she draws on today.
• Why Elizabeth has consistently failed to see opportunities for herself, and why having people who could see further for her has been career-defining.
• The difference between a mentor and a sponsor, why women are over-mentored and under-sponsored, and what sponsorship actually looks like in practice.
• What Elizabeth has learned about wellbeing, outsourcing the domestic load, and building a life you do not want to escape from.
• Why Elizabeth leans into what she is good at rather than trying to fix everything she is not, and what it feels like when you finally do that.

Elizabeth Shaw's insight on sponsorship: “I had people who can see further for me than I’ve seen for myself, and they’ve tapped me on the shoulder and encouraged me. And I think about who in my life can I be that person for.”

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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In this episode:

• Why Jo applied for Reed's graduate scheme instead of a traditional HR role, and how a six-month rotation programme changed the direction of her career.
• What she loved about project management, and why the variety of working across clients like Vodafone, Royal Mail and the Greater London Authority kept her engaged for nearly three decades at one organisation.
• How sponsorship worked for her early in her career, and how the nature of sponsorship changes as you become more senior.
• Why she has only ever been frustrated in one role at Reed, and what made that particular job so difficult despite having a high-performing team around her.
• How AI is reshaping recruitment, why the EU has already flagged hiring as a high-risk area for AI regulation, and the question of whether candidates and employers are now just screening each other with bots.
• What parenthood did to her approach to work, including working a four-day week, procrastinating less and being clearer about her priorities.
• What work-life balance actually means to her: being there when her kids get up in the morning and being there when they go to bed.

Jo Lindsay's best piece of career advice:

"Never turn down an opportunity before you've explored it."

Resources mentioned:   Good to Great - Jim Collins

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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In this episode:

• Why the people who say they don't have a career strategy often turn out to be the most strategic of all - and what Steve Price and Mia Carbon's decisions reveal about planning versus being open to what comes up.
• The difference between push and pull factors in career decisions, and how Maslow's hierarchy of needs maps onto the moments when we choose to move on or stay put.
• What ambition actually means for women at work - including research showing there's no ambition gap between men and women when career support is equal, and why that gap appears when it isn't.
• Why Dinda Timperon's story, from deciding at 17 to join the RAF to building a community around cybersecurity and personal development, is a case study in knowing your own mind.
• Seizing opportunities versus planning for them - and what happens when the universe decides to make the decision for you (Luella shares the story of how she ended up in Australia).
• The role of networks, mentors and sponsors in career development, and why the most powerful career conversations are often the ones you're not having.

Michelle's take on ambition: 

"I applaud all the young women nowadays that embrace wanting to be ambitious and wearing that as a badge of honour - because there is nothing to be ashamed of about that."

Resources mentioned:

•       Drive - Daniel Pink

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

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Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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Dinda's career spans the Royal Australian Air Force, aerospace engineering, flight test, a stint writing stage plays, and now leading national teams in financial services cybersecurity. She built Perth Women's Circle from a sunrise beach gathering of five women in 2023 to a movement with over a thousand women at live events, all alongside a demanding full-time role and raising two boys.

In this episode:

• How Dinda went from joining the Royal Australian Air Force at 17, with no clear career plan, to becoming an aerospace engineer and leading aircraft maintenance and flight test programs.
• What it was like to step into leadership at 21 as an aircraft maintenance officer, managing a team of experienced technicians twice her age, and how that shaped her approach to leadership.
• Why she left the Air Force after a solid career and spent a few years writing stage plays, and what that transition taught her about identity and following your instincts.
• How she made the move into cybersecurity and financial services, and what it takes to transfer skills across very different industries
• How Perth Women's Circle was born from a simple personal need for connection, and what it took to grow it from five women at a beach to a community of over 10,000.
• How Dinda thinks about juggling a national leadership role, community building, coaching, and parenting, and why she frames it less as balance and more as presence.
• What success means to Dinda now compared to her early career, and why she believes ambition should not be a word women feel they have to apologise for.
• How growing up between eight schools, and watching her Indonesian mother lead on building sites, gave Dinda an early and quiet confidence that she could do whatever she wanted.

Dinda's insight on success: “True success expands your life. If something feels restrictive, it's not actually true success. It needs to be something that adds to your life.”

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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In this episode:

• What biosecurity really means for Western Australia - and why the state's scale makes it unlike anywhere else in the world
• The ethical turning point that led her away from clinical veterinary work
• Stepping into a senior executive role on the day three government departments were being merged into one
• Why she withdrew from a senior role at finalist stage - and what she learned from it
• How attending nine schools growing up shaped her adaptability and resilience
• How being a parent has influenced the decisions she's made throughout her career
• Her approach to leadership and navigating complexity in the public sector

Mia's insight on leadership: "In any leadership role, as you go up, you can do less. You absolutely cannot get it all done yourself. The skill as a leader is being able to bring all of those different threads together and knowing how to get them to work together to achieve what you need to achieve."

The proverb Mia lives by: “If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.”

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

More about the podcast: luellaforbes.com/career-stories

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In this episode:

• What a General Manager of Financial Services actually does - in a retail context
• How David Jones thinks about loyalty, rewards and making customers feel special
• Why Steve took voluntary redundancy after 15 years with one organisation - and why he's glad he did
• What the move from a big bank to a small one really teaches you - and why he made that choice deliberately
• How to navigate your career using principles rather than a plan
• The value of deliberately moving across industries before it's done to you
• Steve and Luella's different take on moving countries - and why it isn't always sunshine and roses
• Why he puts family ahead of career - and what work-life prioritisation really means to him
• The career exercise that helped him identify his strengths

Resources mentioned:

• The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen Covey
• Good to Great - Jim Collins

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

More about the podcast: luellaforbes.com/career-stories

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In this episode:

• What purpose actually means at work - and why the research uses different language than the business world does
• The difference between intrinsic and extrinsic motivation - and why it matters more than a corner office
• The data behind purpose-driven work: why high intrinsic motivation is linked to lower burnout, higher engagement and greater resilience to change
• Why younger generations are demanding meaningful work - and why mid-career professionals are asking the same questions
• How leaders can connect their team members to purpose, even in highly structured or resource-constrained environments
• This month's listener question: imposter syndrome - how to back yourself when everyone else already believes in you
• The difference between imposter syndrome and a lack of confidence (they're not the same thing)
• Book recommendation: Feelgood Productivity by Ali Abdaal - how to do more of what matters to you
• A note on how to evaluate career advice: what to look for when deciding whose voice to trust

This week's book recommendation:

• Feel-Good Productivity - Ali Abdaal 

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

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In this episode:

• What a retirement and retention leader actually does - and why it matters for the million Mercer members she serves
• The gender superannuation gap: why women retire with less, and what the industry is doing about it
• What the union movement taught her about doing more with less - and why those skills translated so well to financial services
• How she organised disability care workers from $4 an hour to a living wage - and why she's still proud of it
• The pivot from union organising to superannuation, and how a board role at Hesta opened the door
• How to know when it's time to move on: Kelly's test for when she's reached her impact ceiling
• What "commercial with a heart" means in practice - and why she holds both objectives equally
• Her work as a board member of FREE, a family and domestic violence service in Melbourne

Kelly's career advice:  Clear is kind (Brené Brown), does this spark joy?, and the power of "both and"

Resources mentioned:

• Brené Brown’s work, including Dare to Lead
• “Man in the Arena” - Theodore Roosevelt (referenced by Brené Brown)

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

More about the podcast: luellaforbes.com/career-stories

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In this episode:

• What a traffic operations leader actually does (and why his team includes people from the gaming industry)
• How predictive data modelling is helping his team get ahead of congestion before it happens
• The differences between working in the UK, the Middle East and Australia
• How to know when it's time to move countries - or jobs
• What he looks for when hiring, and why attitude beats technical skill every time
• How Mehdi thinks about leadership for leaders managing large, diverse technical teams 
• His thoughts on work-life balance, wellbeing and what career fulfilment actually looks like

Mehdi's leadership advice: "The standard you walk past is the standard you accept."

Resources mentioned:

• Feel Better, Live More - the wellbeing podcast hosted by Dr Rangan Chatterjee 

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

More about the podcast: luellaforbes.com/career-stories

Watch Career Stories on YouTube, and follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn.

Help other people find this podcast by subscribing in your podcast app and leaving a review.

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

More about the podcast: luellaforbes.com/career-stories

Watch Career Stories on YouTube, and follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn.

Help other people find this podcast by subscribing in your podcast app and leaving a review.

All opinions are the guest's own.

New episodes on a Wednesday, with interviews with leaders or experts every week and a monthly discussion on what we've heard in the last week of the month.

We'd love to hear from you. Share your thoughts on recent episodes or questions you'd like Luella and Michelle to answer at stories@luellaforbes.com.

Career Stories is hosted by Dr Luella Forbes, who works with organisations on leadership, change and storytelling. To find out how she can support your leaders and teams, visit luellaforbes.com/services

More about the podcast: luellaforbes.com/career-stories

Watch Career Stories on YouTube, and follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn.

Help other people find this podcast by subscribing in your podcast app and leaving a review.