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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Keytruda</strong> is Merck's $31 billion a year <strong>PD-1 inhibitor</strong> and the best-selling cancer drug of all time. In Episode 3 of <em>Approved</em>, Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech trace the development of <strong>pembrolizumab</strong> , featuring interviews the scientists who drove the program forward : co-inventors <strong>Gregory Carven</strong> and <strong>Michel Streuli</strong>, and former <strong>Merck</strong> oncology CMO <strong>Roy Baynes</strong>.</p><p>Topics include preclinical <strong>PD1 / CTLA-4 checkpoint biology</strong> that brought industry attention to the target (Jim Allison's CTLA-4 work and Tasuku Honjo's PD-1 discovery); how pembro started as a failed rheumatoid arthritis antibody program at a Dutch subsidiary of a paint company; the two mega-mergers that nearly killed the program;  the <strong>biomarker enrichment</strong> trial design behind KEYNOTE-024 that let Merck break BMS's lead in lung cancer;  the 41-patient Johns Hopkins MSI-H trial behind the first tissue-agnostic FDA approval, and the <strong>Jimmy Carter</strong> melanoma case that brought pembrolizumab to the public conscious. The episode closes on what comes next for Merck: the 2028 patent cliff, the <strong>Keytruda QLEX</strong> subcutaneous launch, and efforts to find the next blockbuster checkpoint inhibitor, including Summit/Akeso's <strong>PD-1 / VEGF bispecific ivonescimab</strong>.</p><p>This episode is presented by <strong>JLL</strong>. Featuring Grant Dettmer on biotech real estate strategy.</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>  00:00:00  —  Introduction: The Best-Selling Cancer Drug of All Time</p><p><br>  00:02:15  —  Part One — A Century of Failed Cancer Immunotherapy</p><p><br>  00:04:17  —  T Cells, CD28, and the Two-Signal Model of Immune Activation</p><p><br>  00:06:25  —  Jim Allison's CTLA-4 Discovery and the Path to Yervoy</p><p><br>  00:12:03  —  Tasuku Honjo Discovers PD-1: A Better Brake on T Cells</p><p><br>  00:14:26  —  Lieping Chen and the PD-L1 Tumor Evasion Hypothesis</p><p><br>  00:16:26  —  Part Two — Organon: The Dutch Paint-Company Subsidiary Behind Keytruda</p><p><br>  00:19:48  —  How Michel Streuli Caught the Solid-Phase Screening Artifact</p><p><br>  00:22:09  —  The Accidental Antagonist: From Rheumatoid Arthritis Drug to Cancer Drug</p><p><br>  00:26:34  —  Sponsor: Grant Detmer (JLL) on Biotech Real Estate Strategy</p><p><br>  00:30:01  —  Russian Nesting-Doll M&amp;A: Schering-Plough Acquires Organon (2007)</p><p><br>  00:31:43  —  The $41 Billion Merck–Schering-Plough Mega-Merger of 2009</p><p><br>  00:34:58  —  Corporate Guerrilla Warfare: Four Scrappy Stunts That Saved Pembrolizumab</p><p><br>  00:39:32  —  BioNovion's Spite-Company Bid to Buy Pembro Back</p><p><br>  00:42:10  —  BMS at ASCO 2010: The Data Print That Revived Merck's PD-1 Program</p><p><br>  00:45:55  —  Part Three — Roger Perlmutter Joins a Bleeding Merck (April 2013)</p><p><br>  00:50:48  —  "Let Me Manage the Tigers": Ken Frazier Backs the All-In Bet on Pembrolizumab</p><p><br>  00:55:22  —  Breakthrough Therapy Designation and Eric Rubin's Adaptive Trial Design</p><p><br>  00:58:25  —  Keytruda's 2014 FDA Approval Erases BMS's Four-Year Lead</p><p><br>  01:00:24  —  The Lung Cancer Battlefield and the PD-L1 Biomarker Bet</p><p><br>  01:02:19  —  BMS vs. Merck: All-Comers vs. Biomarker-Enriched Trial Strategy</p><p><br>  01:08:18  —  KEYNOTE-024 vs. CheckMate-026: The Trial That Decided the Category</p><p><br>  01:12:03  —  Luis Diaz, MSI-H, and the Failed BMS Trial That Made Keytruda Tissue-Agnostic</p><p><br>  01:17:18  —  KEYNOTE-189: Perlmutter's Bet on Combining Keytruda with Chemotherapy</p><p><br>  01:19:21  —  Merck's Clinical Development Playbook: Basket Trials, Backwards March, External Collabs</p><p><br>  01:25:29  —  Part Four — The IO Graveyard: TIGIT, CD47, IDO1, LAG-3 and Tens of Billions Incinerated</p><p><br>  01:30:23  —  Why PD-1 Was the Only Checkpoint That Worked (Lieping Chen Revisited)</p><p><br>  01:33:32  —  Part Five — Inside the Best-Selling Drug of All Time</p><p><br>  01:37:03  —  "Build a Wall, High and Wide": Merck’s Commercial Strategy for Keytruda</p><p><br>  01:43:44  —  Part Six — The Patent Cliff and Loss of Exclusivity in Pharma</p><p><br>  01:45:35  —  Keytruda QLEX (Subcutaneous) and the Lifecycle Management Playbook</p><p><br>  01:50:23  —  PD-1/VEGF Bispecifics: Ivonescimab, Summit Therapeutics, and the Next Threat</p><p><br>  01:55:31  —  The Scorecard: Patient, Academic, and Financial Impact</p><p><br>  02:01:19  —  Who Actually Profited: Merck vs. Organon vs. the Scientists Who Built the Drug</p><p><br>  02:05:54  —  Epilogue: The Jimmy Carter Drug<br><strong></strong></p><p>Sources</p><p><em>Last updated: May 2026</em></p><p><strong><br>Essential reading</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Shaywitz, David.</strong> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidshaywitz/2017/07/26/the-startling-history-behind-mercks-new-cancer-blockbuster/">"The Startling History Behind Merck's New Cancer Blockbuster."</a> <em>Forbes,</em> Jul 26, 2017. <em>The definitive Organon-era origin story.</em></li><li><strong>Loftus, Peter.</strong> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-merck-is-betting-big-on-one-cancer-drug-1523790000">"Why Merck Is Betting Big on One Cancer Drug."</a> <em>WSJ,</em> Apr 15, 2018. <em>Source for Perlmutter's "whatever other projects you're working on, you can stop now."</em></li><li><strong>Lowe, Derek.</strong> <a href="https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/keytruda-story">"The Keytruda Story."</a> <em>In the Pipeline.</em></li><li><strong>Graeber, Charles.</strong> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Immunotherapy-Race-Cure-Cancer/dp/1455568503"><em>The Breakthrough</em></a>. Twelve, 2018.</li></ul><p><strong><br>Primary interviews</strong></p><p>Greg Carven, Michel Streuli, Roy Baynes — Approved podcast interviews (2026). Quotes attributed to these speakers come from these conversations unless otherwise noted.</p><p><strong><br>Foundational science</strong></p><ul><li>Stutman. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.183.4124.534">"Tumor development in athymic-nude mice."</a> <em>Science</em> (1974). <em>The flawed experiment that killed tumor immunology for two decades.</em></li><li>Shankaran et al. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/35074122">"IFNγ and lymphocytes prevent primary tumour development."</a> <em>Nature</em> (2001). <em>Schreiber's cancer immunoediting paper.</em></li><li>Leach, Krummel &amp; Allison. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.271.5256.1734">"Antitumor immunity by CTLA-4 blockade."</a> <em>Science</em> (1996). <em>Allison's '100-to-zero' experiment.</em></li><li>Ishida, Agata, Shibahara &amp; Honjo. <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC556898/">"Induced expression of PD-1."</a> <em>EMBO J</em> (1992). <em>Honjo discovers PD-1.</em></li><li>Dong, Strome et al. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/nm730">"B7-H1 promotes T-cell apoptosis."</a> <em>Nat Med</em> (2002). <em>Lieping Chen's PD-L1 immune-evasion paper.</em></li></ul><p><strong><br>Pivotal trials</strong></p><ul><li>Topalian et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1200690">"Anti-PD-1 ...</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Keytruda</strong> is Merck's $31 billion a year <strong>PD-1 inhibitor</strong> and the best-selling cancer drug of all time. In Episode 3 of <em>Approved</em>, Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech trace the development of <strong>pembrolizumab</strong> , featuring interviews the scientists who drove the program forward : co-inventors <strong>Gregory Carven</strong> and <strong>Michel Streuli</strong>, and former <strong>Merck</strong> oncology CMO <strong>Roy Baynes</strong>.</p><p>Topics include preclinical <strong>PD1 / CTLA-4 checkpoint biology</strong> that brought industry attention to the target (Jim Allison's CTLA-4 work and Tasuku Honjo's PD-1 discovery); how pembro started as a failed rheumatoid arthritis antibody program at a Dutch subsidiary of a paint company; the two mega-mergers that nearly killed the program;  the <strong>biomarker enrichment</strong> trial design behind KEYNOTE-024 that let Merck break BMS's lead in lung cancer;  the 41-patient Johns Hopkins MSI-H trial behind the first tissue-agnostic FDA approval, and the <strong>Jimmy Carter</strong> melanoma case that brought pembrolizumab to the public conscious. The episode closes on what comes next for Merck: the 2028 patent cliff, the <strong>Keytruda QLEX</strong> subcutaneous launch, and efforts to find the next blockbuster checkpoint inhibitor, including Summit/Akeso's <strong>PD-1 / VEGF bispecific ivonescimab</strong>.</p><p>This episode is presented by <strong>JLL</strong>. Featuring Grant Dettmer on biotech real estate strategy.</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>  00:00:00  —  Introduction: The Best-Selling Cancer Drug of All Time</p><p><br>  00:02:15  —  Part One — A Century of Failed Cancer Immunotherapy</p><p><br>  00:04:17  —  T Cells, CD28, and the Two-Signal Model of Immune Activation</p><p><br>  00:06:25  —  Jim Allison's CTLA-4 Discovery and the Path to Yervoy</p><p><br>  00:12:03  —  Tasuku Honjo Discovers PD-1: A Better Brake on T Cells</p><p><br>  00:14:26  —  Lieping Chen and the PD-L1 Tumor Evasion Hypothesis</p><p><br>  00:16:26  —  Part Two — Organon: The Dutch Paint-Company Subsidiary Behind Keytruda</p><p><br>  00:19:48  —  How Michel Streuli Caught the Solid-Phase Screening Artifact</p><p><br>  00:22:09  —  The Accidental Antagonist: From Rheumatoid Arthritis Drug to Cancer Drug</p><p><br>  00:26:34  —  Sponsor: Grant Detmer (JLL) on Biotech Real Estate Strategy</p><p><br>  00:30:01  —  Russian Nesting-Doll M&amp;A: Schering-Plough Acquires Organon (2007)</p><p><br>  00:31:43  —  The $41 Billion Merck–Schering-Plough Mega-Merger of 2009</p><p><br>  00:34:58  —  Corporate Guerrilla Warfare: Four Scrappy Stunts That Saved Pembrolizumab</p><p><br>  00:39:32  —  BioNovion's Spite-Company Bid to Buy Pembro Back</p><p><br>  00:42:10  —  BMS at ASCO 2010: The Data Print That Revived Merck's PD-1 Program</p><p><br>  00:45:55  —  Part Three — Roger Perlmutter Joins a Bleeding Merck (April 2013)</p><p><br>  00:50:48  —  "Let Me Manage the Tigers": Ken Frazier Backs the All-In Bet on Pembrolizumab</p><p><br>  00:55:22  —  Breakthrough Therapy Designation and Eric Rubin's Adaptive Trial Design</p><p><br>  00:58:25  —  Keytruda's 2014 FDA Approval Erases BMS's Four-Year Lead</p><p><br>  01:00:24  —  The Lung Cancer Battlefield and the PD-L1 Biomarker Bet</p><p><br>  01:02:19  —  BMS vs. Merck: All-Comers vs. Biomarker-Enriched Trial Strategy</p><p><br>  01:08:18  —  KEYNOTE-024 vs. CheckMate-026: The Trial That Decided the Category</p><p><br>  01:12:03  —  Luis Diaz, MSI-H, and the Failed BMS Trial That Made Keytruda Tissue-Agnostic</p><p><br>  01:17:18  —  KEYNOTE-189: Perlmutter's Bet on Combining Keytruda with Chemotherapy</p><p><br>  01:19:21  —  Merck's Clinical Development Playbook: Basket Trials, Backwards March, External Collabs</p><p><br>  01:25:29  —  Part Four — The IO Graveyard: TIGIT, CD47, IDO1, LAG-3 and Tens of Billions Incinerated</p><p><br>  01:30:23  —  Why PD-1 Was the Only Checkpoint That Worked (Lieping Chen Revisited)</p><p><br>  01:33:32  —  Part Five — Inside the Best-Selling Drug of All Time</p><p><br>  01:37:03  —  "Build a Wall, High and Wide": Merck’s Commercial Strategy for Keytruda</p><p><br>  01:43:44  —  Part Six — The Patent Cliff and Loss of Exclusivity in Pharma</p><p><br>  01:45:35  —  Keytruda QLEX (Subcutaneous) and the Lifecycle Management Playbook</p><p><br>  01:50:23  —  PD-1/VEGF Bispecifics: Ivonescimab, Summit Therapeutics, and the Next Threat</p><p><br>  01:55:31  —  The Scorecard: Patient, Academic, and Financial Impact</p><p><br>  02:01:19  —  Who Actually Profited: Merck vs. Organon vs. the Scientists Who Built the Drug</p><p><br>  02:05:54  —  Epilogue: The Jimmy Carter Drug<br><strong></strong></p><p>Sources</p><p><em>Last updated: May 2026</em></p><p><strong><br>Essential reading</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Shaywitz, David.</strong> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidshaywitz/2017/07/26/the-startling-history-behind-mercks-new-cancer-blockbuster/">"The Startling History Behind Merck's New Cancer Blockbuster."</a> <em>Forbes,</em> Jul 26, 2017. <em>The definitive Organon-era origin story.</em></li><li><strong>Loftus, Peter.</strong> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-merck-is-betting-big-on-one-cancer-drug-1523790000">"Why Merck Is Betting Big on One Cancer Drug."</a> <em>WSJ,</em> Apr 15, 2018. <em>Source for Perlmutter's "whatever other projects you're working on, you can stop now."</em></li><li><strong>Lowe, Derek.</strong> <a href="https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/keytruda-story">"The Keytruda Story."</a> <em>In the Pipeline.</em></li><li><strong>Graeber, Charles.</strong> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Immunotherapy-Race-Cure-Cancer/dp/1455568503"><em>The Breakthrough</em></a>. Twelve, 2018.</li></ul><p><strong><br>Primary interviews</strong></p><p>Greg Carven, Michel Streuli, Roy Baynes — Approved podcast interviews (2026). Quotes attributed to these speakers come from these conversations unless otherwise noted.</p><p><strong><br>Foundational science</strong></p><ul><li>Stutman. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.183.4124.534">"Tumor development in athymic-nude mice."</a> <em>Science</em> (1974). <em>The flawed experiment that killed tumor immunology for two decades.</em></li><li>Shankaran et al. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/35074122">"IFNγ and lymphocytes prevent primary tumour development."</a> <em>Nature</em> (2001). <em>Schreiber's cancer immunoediting paper.</em></li><li>Leach, Krummel &amp; Allison. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.271.5256.1734">"Antitumor immunity by CTLA-4 blockade."</a> <em>Science</em> (1996). <em>Allison's '100-to-zero' experiment.</em></li><li>Ishida, Agata, Shibahara &amp; Honjo. <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC556898/">"Induced expression of PD-1."</a> <em>EMBO J</em> (1992). <em>Honjo discovers PD-1.</em></li><li>Dong, Strome et al. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/nm730">"B7-H1 promotes T-cell apoptosis."</a> <em>Nat Med</em> (2002). <em>Lieping Chen's PD-L1 immune-evasion paper.</em></li></ul><p><strong><br>Pivotal trials</strong></p><ul><li>Topalian et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1200690">"Anti-PD-1 ...</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Keytruda</strong> is Merck's $31 billion a year <strong>PD-1 inhibitor</strong> and the best-selling cancer drug of all time. In Episode 3 of <em>Approved</em>, Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech trace the development of <strong>pembrolizumab</strong> , featuring interviews the scientists who drove the program forward : co-inventors <strong>Gregory Carven</strong> and <strong>Michel Streuli</strong>, and former <strong>Merck</strong> oncology CMO <strong>Roy Baynes</strong>.</p><p>Topics include preclinical <strong>PD1 / CTLA-4 checkpoint biology</strong> that brought industry attention to the target (Jim Allison's CTLA-4 work and Tasuku Honjo's PD-1 discovery); how pembro started as a failed rheumatoid arthritis antibody program at a Dutch subsidiary of a paint company; the two mega-mergers that nearly killed the program;  the <strong>biomarker enrichment</strong> trial design behind KEYNOTE-024 that let Merck break BMS's lead in lung cancer;  the 41-patient Johns Hopkins MSI-H trial behind the first tissue-agnostic FDA approval, and the <strong>Jimmy Carter</strong> melanoma case that brought pembrolizumab to the public conscious. The episode closes on what comes next for Merck: the 2028 patent cliff, the <strong>Keytruda QLEX</strong> subcutaneous launch, and efforts to find the next blockbuster checkpoint inhibitor, including Summit/Akeso's <strong>PD-1 / VEGF bispecific ivonescimab</strong>.</p><p>This episode is presented by <strong>JLL</strong>. Featuring Grant Dettmer on biotech real estate strategy.</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p><br>  00:00:00  —  Introduction: The Best-Selling Cancer Drug of All Time</p><p><br>  00:02:15  —  Part One — A Century of Failed Cancer Immunotherapy</p><p><br>  00:04:17  —  T Cells, CD28, and the Two-Signal Model of Immune Activation</p><p><br>  00:06:25  —  Jim Allison's CTLA-4 Discovery and the Path to Yervoy</p><p><br>  00:12:03  —  Tasuku Honjo Discovers PD-1: A Better Brake on T Cells</p><p><br>  00:14:26  —  Lieping Chen and the PD-L1 Tumor Evasion Hypothesis</p><p><br>  00:16:26  —  Part Two — Organon: The Dutch Paint-Company Subsidiary Behind Keytruda</p><p><br>  00:19:48  —  How Michel Streuli Caught the Solid-Phase Screening Artifact</p><p><br>  00:22:09  —  The Accidental Antagonist: From Rheumatoid Arthritis Drug to Cancer Drug</p><p><br>  00:26:34  —  Sponsor: Grant Detmer (JLL) on Biotech Real Estate Strategy</p><p><br>  00:30:01  —  Russian Nesting-Doll M&amp;A: Schering-Plough Acquires Organon (2007)</p><p><br>  00:31:43  —  The $41 Billion Merck–Schering-Plough Mega-Merger of 2009</p><p><br>  00:34:58  —  Corporate Guerrilla Warfare: Four Scrappy Stunts That Saved Pembrolizumab</p><p><br>  00:39:32  —  BioNovion's Spite-Company Bid to Buy Pembro Back</p><p><br>  00:42:10  —  BMS at ASCO 2010: The Data Print That Revived Merck's PD-1 Program</p><p><br>  00:45:55  —  Part Three — Roger Perlmutter Joins a Bleeding Merck (April 2013)</p><p><br>  00:50:48  —  "Let Me Manage the Tigers": Ken Frazier Backs the All-In Bet on Pembrolizumab</p><p><br>  00:55:22  —  Breakthrough Therapy Designation and Eric Rubin's Adaptive Trial Design</p><p><br>  00:58:25  —  Keytruda's 2014 FDA Approval Erases BMS's Four-Year Lead</p><p><br>  01:00:24  —  The Lung Cancer Battlefield and the PD-L1 Biomarker Bet</p><p><br>  01:02:19  —  BMS vs. Merck: All-Comers vs. Biomarker-Enriched Trial Strategy</p><p><br>  01:08:18  —  KEYNOTE-024 vs. CheckMate-026: The Trial That Decided the Category</p><p><br>  01:12:03  —  Luis Diaz, MSI-H, and the Failed BMS Trial That Made Keytruda Tissue-Agnostic</p><p><br>  01:17:18  —  KEYNOTE-189: Perlmutter's Bet on Combining Keytruda with Chemotherapy</p><p><br>  01:19:21  —  Merck's Clinical Development Playbook: Basket Trials, Backwards March, External Collabs</p><p><br>  01:25:29  —  Part Four — The IO Graveyard: TIGIT, CD47, IDO1, LAG-3 and Tens of Billions Incinerated</p><p><br>  01:30:23  —  Why PD-1 Was the Only Checkpoint That Worked (Lieping Chen Revisited)</p><p><br>  01:33:32  —  Part Five — Inside the Best-Selling Drug of All Time</p><p><br>  01:37:03  —  "Build a Wall, High and Wide": Merck’s Commercial Strategy for Keytruda</p><p><br>  01:43:44  —  Part Six — The Patent Cliff and Loss of Exclusivity in Pharma</p><p><br>  01:45:35  —  Keytruda QLEX (Subcutaneous) and the Lifecycle Management Playbook</p><p><br>  01:50:23  —  PD-1/VEGF Bispecifics: Ivonescimab, Summit Therapeutics, and the Next Threat</p><p><br>  01:55:31  —  The Scorecard: Patient, Academic, and Financial Impact</p><p><br>  02:01:19  —  Who Actually Profited: Merck vs. Organon vs. the Scientists Who Built the Drug</p><p><br>  02:05:54  —  Epilogue: The Jimmy Carter Drug<br><strong></strong></p><p>Sources</p><p><em>Last updated: May 2026</em></p><p><strong><br>Essential reading</strong></p><ul><li><strong>Shaywitz, David.</strong> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidshaywitz/2017/07/26/the-startling-history-behind-mercks-new-cancer-blockbuster/">"The Startling History Behind Merck's New Cancer Blockbuster."</a> <em>Forbes,</em> Jul 26, 2017. <em>The definitive Organon-era origin story.</em></li><li><strong>Loftus, Peter.</strong> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-merck-is-betting-big-on-one-cancer-drug-1523790000">"Why Merck Is Betting Big on One Cancer Drug."</a> <em>WSJ,</em> Apr 15, 2018. <em>Source for Perlmutter's "whatever other projects you're working on, you can stop now."</em></li><li><strong>Lowe, Derek.</strong> <a href="https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/keytruda-story">"The Keytruda Story."</a> <em>In the Pipeline.</em></li><li><strong>Graeber, Charles.</strong> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Breakthrough-Immunotherapy-Race-Cure-Cancer/dp/1455568503"><em>The Breakthrough</em></a>. Twelve, 2018.</li></ul><p><strong><br>Primary interviews</strong></p><p>Greg Carven, Michel Streuli, Roy Baynes — Approved podcast interviews (2026). Quotes attributed to these speakers come from these conversations unless otherwise noted.</p><p><strong><br>Foundational science</strong></p><ul><li>Stutman. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.183.4124.534">"Tumor development in athymic-nude mice."</a> <em>Science</em> (1974). <em>The flawed experiment that killed tumor immunology for two decades.</em></li><li>Shankaran et al. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/35074122">"IFNγ and lymphocytes prevent primary tumour development."</a> <em>Nature</em> (2001). <em>Schreiber's cancer immunoediting paper.</em></li><li>Leach, Krummel &amp; Allison. <a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.271.5256.1734">"Antitumor immunity by CTLA-4 blockade."</a> <em>Science</em> (1996). <em>Allison's '100-to-zero' experiment.</em></li><li>Ishida, Agata, Shibahara &amp; Honjo. <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC556898/">"Induced expression of PD-1."</a> <em>EMBO J</em> (1992). <em>Honjo discovers PD-1.</em></li><li>Dong, Strome et al. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/nm730">"B7-H1 promotes T-cell apoptosis."</a> <em>Nat Med</em> (2002). <em>Lieping Chen's PD-L1 immune-evasion paper.</em></li></ul><p><strong><br>Pivotal trials</strong></p><ul><li>Topalian et al. <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1200690">"Anti-PD-1 ...</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4COpXyTfI7jifq6da7wM52?si=EHI93INORPWlX8CabI6wcg">Spotify</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-2-geron/id1873356046?i=1000755117965">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryeqeon5y4s">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>TABLE OF CONTENTS</strong></p><p>(00:00:00) - Introduction </p><p>(00:01:19) - Hayflick Limit </p><p>(00:08:30) - Michael West &amp; Founding of Geron </p><p>(00:15:16) - Early Science &amp; IP Strategy </p><p>(00:27:25) - Cloning the Telomerase Gene </p><p>(00:29:30) - Embryonic Stem Cells &amp; Political Context </p><p>(00:44:21) - Okarma, West’s Departure &amp; Corporate Turmoil </p><p>(01:05:08) - Spinal Cord Injury Trial </p><p>(01:30:45) - Pivot to Blood Cancer </p><p>(01:43:08) - Clinical &amp; Commercial Drama</p><p>(02:01:45) - Legacy &amp; Lessons</p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p>Co-hosted by Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech</p><p>Written, edited, and produced by Alex Kesin</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoCA4taNyg">“Food”</a> by nerowski</p><p>* Special thanks to the team at <a href="https://www.nfx.com/">NFX</a> for the use of their recording studio.</p><p><strong>SOURCES</strong></p><p><strong><em>Last updated: March 2026</em></strong></p><p><strong>I. BOOKS</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Immortality-Pa-Stephen-Hall/dp/0618492216">Hall, Stephen S. <em>Merchants of Immortality: Chasing the Dream of Human Life Extension.</em> Houghton Mifflin, 2003.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Collision-Inspiring-Research-Conservative-ebook/dp/B00NGRMSHC">Williams, Tory. <em>Inevitable Collision: The Inspiring Story That Brought Stem Cell Research to Conservative America.</em>Mary Ann Liebert, Inc., 2014.</a></p><p><strong>II. KEY SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS</strong></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13905658/">Hayflick, L. &amp; Moorhead, P.S. “The serial cultivation of human diploid cell strains.” Experimental Cell Research 25 (1961): 585–621.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7605428/">Kim, N.W. et al. “Specific association of human telomerase activity with immortal cells and cancer.” Science 266, no. 5193 (1994): 2011–2015.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7544491/">Feng, J. et al. “The RNA component of human telomerase.” Science 269, no. 5228 (1995): 1236–1241.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.277.5328.955">Nakamura, T.M. et al. “Telomerase catalytic subunit homologs from fission yeast and human.” Science 277, no. 5328 (1997): 955–959.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(00)80538-3.pdf">Meyerson, M. et al. “hEST2, the putative human telomerase catalytic subunit gene, is up-regulated in tumor cells and during immortalization.” Cell 90, no. 4 (1997): 785–795.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.279.5349.349">Bodnar, A.G. et al. “Extension of life-span by introduction of telomerase into normal human cells.” Science 279, no. 5349 (1998): 349–352.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.282.5391.1145">Thomson, J.A. et al. “Embryonic stem cell lines derived from human blastocysts.” Science 282, no. 5391 (1998): 1145–1147.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12873987/">Asai, A. et al. “A novel telomerase template antagonist (GRN163) as a potential anticancer agent.” Cancer Research 63, no. 14 (2003): 3931–3939. </a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15940257/">Herbert, B-S et al. “Effect of the lipid modification of GRN163.” Nature: Oncogene 24 (2005): 5765–5772. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1503479">Baerlochr, G. et al. “A pilot study of the telomerase inhibitor imetelstat for myelofibrosis.” New England Journal of Medicine 373 (2015): 908–919. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)01724-5/abstract">Platzbecker, U. et al. “Imetelstat in patients with lower-risk myelodysplastic syndromes who have relapsed or are refractory to erythropoiesis-stimulating agents (IMerge).” The Lancet (2024).</a></p><p><a href="https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cts.70076">Lennox, A.L et al. “Imetelstat, a novel, first-in-class telomerase inhibitor: Mechanism of action, clinical, and translational science.” <em>Clinical and Translational Science</em> 17, no. 11 (2024).</a></p><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4250218/">Scott, C. &amp; Magnus, D. “Wrongful Termination: Lessons From the Geron Clinical Trial” Stem Cell Reports 3, no. 5 (2014): 721–723. </a></p><p><strong>III. REGULATORY &amp; CLINICAL</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2024/217779s000lbl.pdf">Prescribing Information (Label) U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “RYTELO (imetelstat) for injection: Highlights of Prescribing Information.” NDA 217779. June 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/appletter/2024/217779Orig1s000ltr.pdf">NDA Approval Letter U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “NDA Approval Letter: RYTELO (imetelstat) for injection.” NDA 217779. June 6, 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2024/217779Orig1s000OtherR.pdf">Multi-Discipline Review &amp; Evaluation U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “NDA Multi-Disciplinary Review and Evaluation: RYTELO (imetelstat).” NDA 217779Orig1s000. 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/176966/download">ODAC Briefing Document U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “FDA Briefing Document: Oncologic Drugs Advisory Committee Meeting, NDA 217779, Imetelstat.” March 14, 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2024/217779Orig1s000RiskR.pdf">REMS/Risk Assessment Review U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “Risk Assessment and Risk Mitigation Review: RYTELO (imetelstat).” NDA 217779Orig1s000. 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/JCO-25-01369">Kim, N. et al. “US Food and Drug Administration Approval Summary: Imetelstat for Selected Patients With Low- to Intermediate-1 Risk Myelodysplastic Syndromes With Transfusion-Dependent Anemia.” <em>The Oncologist</em> (2025). PMID: 41135032.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/drugs/resources-information-approved-drugs/fda-approves-imetelstat-low-intermediate-1-risk-myelodysplastic-syndromes-transfusion-dependent">FDA. “FDA Approves Imetelstat for Low- to Intermediate-1-Risk Myelodysplastic Syndromes with Transfusion-Dependent Anemia.” June 2024.</a></p><p><a href="https://icer.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/MDS_Final-Report_For-Publication_08222024.pdf">ICER. “Evidence Report: Treatment for Anemia in Myelodysplastic Syndrome.” August 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://icer.org/news-insights/press-releases/institute-for-clinical-and-economic-review-publishes-evidence-report-on-treatment-for-anemia-in-myelodysplastic-syndrome/">ICER. Press Release on Imetelstat Evidence Assessment. </a></p><p><a href="https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT01217008">ClinicalTrials.gov. GRNOPC1 Phase I Trial. NCT01217008. </a></p><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4553145/">Myelodysplastic Syndrome Epidemiology. PMC4553145.</a></p><p><a href="https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/142/26/2247/498176/Diagnosis-and-classification-of-myelodysplastic">MDS Risk and AML Progression. Blood (2023). </a></p><p><strong>IV. CORPORATE FILINGS &amp; PRESENTATIONS</strong></p><p><a href="https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront..."></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4COpXyTfI7jifq6da7wM52?si=EHI93INORPWlX8CabI6wcg">Spotify</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-2-geron/id1873356046?i=1000755117965">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryeqeon5y4s">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>TABLE OF CONTENTS</strong></p><p>(00:00:00) - Introduction </p><p>(00:01:19) - Hayflick Limit </p><p>(00:08:30) - Michael West &amp; Founding of Geron </p><p>(00:15:16) - Early Science &amp; IP Strategy </p><p>(00:27:25) - Cloning the Telomerase Gene </p><p>(00:29:30) - Embryonic Stem Cells &amp; Political Context </p><p>(00:44:21) - Okarma, West’s Departure &amp; Corporate Turmoil </p><p>(01:05:08) - Spinal Cord Injury Trial </p><p>(01:30:45) - Pivot to Blood Cancer </p><p>(01:43:08) - Clinical &amp; Commercial Drama</p><p>(02:01:45) - Legacy &amp; Lessons</p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p>Co-hosted by Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech</p><p>Written, edited, and produced by Alex Kesin</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoCA4taNyg">“Food”</a> by nerowski</p><p>* Special thanks to the team at <a href="https://www.nfx.com/">NFX</a> for the use of their recording studio.</p><p><strong>SOURCES</strong></p><p><strong><em>Last updated: March 2026</em></strong></p><p><strong>I. BOOKS</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Immortality-Pa-Stephen-Hall/dp/0618492216">Hall, Stephen S. <em>Merchants of Immortality: Chasing the Dream of Human Life Extension.</em> Houghton Mifflin, 2003.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Collision-Inspiring-Research-Conservative-ebook/dp/B00NGRMSHC">Williams, Tory. <em>Inevitable Collision: The Inspiring Story That Brought Stem Cell Research to Conservative America.</em>Mary Ann Liebert, Inc., 2014.</a></p><p><strong>II. KEY SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS</strong></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13905658/">Hayflick, L. &amp; Moorhead, P.S. “The serial cultivation of human diploid cell strains.” Experimental Cell Research 25 (1961): 585–621.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7605428/">Kim, N.W. et al. “Specific association of human telomerase activity with immortal cells and cancer.” Science 266, no. 5193 (1994): 2011–2015.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7544491/">Feng, J. et al. “The RNA component of human telomerase.” Science 269, no. 5228 (1995): 1236–1241.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.277.5328.955">Nakamura, T.M. et al. “Telomerase catalytic subunit homologs from fission yeast and human.” Science 277, no. 5328 (1997): 955–959.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(00)80538-3.pdf">Meyerson, M. et al. “hEST2, the putative human telomerase catalytic subunit gene, is up-regulated in tumor cells and during immortalization.” Cell 90, no. 4 (1997): 785–795.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.279.5349.349">Bodnar, A.G. et al. “Extension of life-span by introduction of telomerase into normal human cells.” Science 279, no. 5349 (1998): 349–352.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.282.5391.1145">Thomson, J.A. et al. “Embryonic stem cell lines derived from human blastocysts.” Science 282, no. 5391 (1998): 1145–1147.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12873987/">Asai, A. et al. “A novel telomerase template antagonist (GRN163) as a potential anticancer agent.” Cancer Research 63, no. 14 (2003): 3931–3939. </a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15940257/">Herbert, B-S et al. “Effect of the lipid modification of GRN163.” Nature: Oncogene 24 (2005): 5765–5772. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1503479">Baerlochr, G. et al. “A pilot study of the telomerase inhibitor imetelstat for myelofibrosis.” New England Journal of Medicine 373 (2015): 908–919. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)01724-5/abstract">Platzbecker, U. et al. “Imetelstat in patients with lower-risk myelodysplastic syndromes who have relapsed or are refractory to erythropoiesis-stimulating agents (IMerge).” The Lancet (2024).</a></p><p><a href="https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cts.70076">Lennox, A.L et al. “Imetelstat, a novel, first-in-class telomerase inhibitor: Mechanism of action, clinical, and translational science.” <em>Clinical and Translational Science</em> 17, no. 11 (2024).</a></p><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4250218/">Scott, C. &amp; Magnus, D. “Wrongful Termination: Lessons From the Geron Clinical Trial” Stem Cell Reports 3, no. 5 (2014): 721–723. </a></p><p><strong>III. REGULATORY &amp; CLINICAL</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2024/217779s000lbl.pdf">Prescribing Information (Label) U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “RYTELO (imetelstat) for injection: Highlights of Prescribing Information.” NDA 217779. June 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/appletter/2024/217779Orig1s000ltr.pdf">NDA Approval Letter U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “NDA Approval Letter: RYTELO (imetelstat) for injection.” NDA 217779. June 6, 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2024/217779Orig1s000OtherR.pdf">Multi-Discipline Review &amp; Evaluation U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “NDA Multi-Disciplinary Review and Evaluation: RYTELO (imetelstat).” NDA 217779Orig1s000. 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/176966/download">ODAC Briefing Document U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “FDA Briefing Document: Oncologic Drugs Advisory Committee Meeting, NDA 217779, Imetelstat.” March 14, 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2024/217779Orig1s000RiskR.pdf">REMS/Risk Assessment Review U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “Risk Assessment and Risk Mitigation Review: RYTELO (imetelstat).” NDA 217779Orig1s000. 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/JCO-25-01369">Kim, N. et al. “US Food and Drug Administration Approval Summary: Imetelstat for Selected Patients With Low- to Intermediate-1 Risk Myelodysplastic Syndromes With Transfusion-Dependent Anemia.” <em>The Oncologist</em> (2025). PMID: 41135032.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/drugs/resources-information-approved-drugs/fda-approves-imetelstat-low-intermediate-1-risk-myelodysplastic-syndromes-transfusion-dependent">FDA. “FDA Approves Imetelstat for Low- to Intermediate-1-Risk Myelodysplastic Syndromes with Transfusion-Dependent Anemia.” June 2024.</a></p><p><a href="https://icer.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/MDS_Final-Report_For-Publication_08222024.pdf">ICER. “Evidence Report: Treatment for Anemia in Myelodysplastic Syndrome.” August 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://icer.org/news-insights/press-releases/institute-for-clinical-and-economic-review-publishes-evidence-report-on-treatment-for-anemia-in-myelodysplastic-syndrome/">ICER. Press Release on Imetelstat Evidence Assessment. </a></p><p><a href="https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT01217008">ClinicalTrials.gov. GRNOPC1 Phase I Trial. NCT01217008. </a></p><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4553145/">Myelodysplastic Syndrome Epidemiology. PMC4553145.</a></p><p><a href="https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/142/26/2247/498176/Diagnosis-and-classification-of-myelodysplastic">MDS Risk and AML Progression. Blood (2023). </a></p><p><strong>IV. CORPORATE FILINGS &amp; PRESENTATIONS</strong></p><p><a href="https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront..."></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4COpXyTfI7jifq6da7wM52?si=EHI93INORPWlX8CabI6wcg">Spotify</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-2-geron/id1873356046?i=1000755117965">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryeqeon5y4s">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>TABLE OF CONTENTS</strong></p><p>(00:00:00) - Introduction </p><p>(00:01:19) - Hayflick Limit </p><p>(00:08:30) - Michael West &amp; Founding of Geron </p><p>(00:15:16) - Early Science &amp; IP Strategy </p><p>(00:27:25) - Cloning the Telomerase Gene </p><p>(00:29:30) - Embryonic Stem Cells &amp; Political Context </p><p>(00:44:21) - Okarma, West’s Departure &amp; Corporate Turmoil </p><p>(01:05:08) - Spinal Cord Injury Trial </p><p>(01:30:45) - Pivot to Blood Cancer </p><p>(01:43:08) - Clinical &amp; Commercial Drama</p><p>(02:01:45) - Legacy &amp; Lessons</p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p>Co-hosted by Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech</p><p>Written, edited, and produced by Alex Kesin</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoCA4taNyg">“Food”</a> by nerowski</p><p>* Special thanks to the team at <a href="https://www.nfx.com/">NFX</a> for the use of their recording studio.</p><p><strong>SOURCES</strong></p><p><strong><em>Last updated: March 2026</em></strong></p><p><strong>I. BOOKS</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Merchants-Immortality-Pa-Stephen-Hall/dp/0618492216">Hall, Stephen S. <em>Merchants of Immortality: Chasing the Dream of Human Life Extension.</em> Houghton Mifflin, 2003.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Inevitable-Collision-Inspiring-Research-Conservative-ebook/dp/B00NGRMSHC">Williams, Tory. <em>Inevitable Collision: The Inspiring Story That Brought Stem Cell Research to Conservative America.</em>Mary Ann Liebert, Inc., 2014.</a></p><p><strong>II. KEY SCIENTIFIC PUBLICATIONS</strong></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13905658/">Hayflick, L. &amp; Moorhead, P.S. “The serial cultivation of human diploid cell strains.” Experimental Cell Research 25 (1961): 585–621.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7605428/">Kim, N.W. et al. “Specific association of human telomerase activity with immortal cells and cancer.” Science 266, no. 5193 (1994): 2011–2015.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7544491/">Feng, J. et al. “The RNA component of human telomerase.” Science 269, no. 5228 (1995): 1236–1241.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.277.5328.955">Nakamura, T.M. et al. “Telomerase catalytic subunit homologs from fission yeast and human.” Science 277, no. 5328 (1997): 955–959.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(00)80538-3.pdf">Meyerson, M. et al. “hEST2, the putative human telomerase catalytic subunit gene, is up-regulated in tumor cells and during immortalization.” Cell 90, no. 4 (1997): 785–795.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.279.5349.349">Bodnar, A.G. et al. “Extension of life-span by introduction of telomerase into normal human cells.” Science 279, no. 5349 (1998): 349–352.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.282.5391.1145">Thomson, J.A. et al. “Embryonic stem cell lines derived from human blastocysts.” Science 282, no. 5391 (1998): 1145–1147.</a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12873987/">Asai, A. et al. “A novel telomerase template antagonist (GRN163) as a potential anticancer agent.” Cancer Research 63, no. 14 (2003): 3931–3939. </a></p><p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15940257/">Herbert, B-S et al. “Effect of the lipid modification of GRN163.” Nature: Oncogene 24 (2005): 5765–5772. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1503479">Baerlochr, G. et al. “A pilot study of the telomerase inhibitor imetelstat for myelofibrosis.” New England Journal of Medicine 373 (2015): 908–919. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)01724-5/abstract">Platzbecker, U. et al. “Imetelstat in patients with lower-risk myelodysplastic syndromes who have relapsed or are refractory to erythropoiesis-stimulating agents (IMerge).” The Lancet (2024).</a></p><p><a href="https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cts.70076">Lennox, A.L et al. “Imetelstat, a novel, first-in-class telomerase inhibitor: Mechanism of action, clinical, and translational science.” <em>Clinical and Translational Science</em> 17, no. 11 (2024).</a></p><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4250218/">Scott, C. &amp; Magnus, D. “Wrongful Termination: Lessons From the Geron Clinical Trial” Stem Cell Reports 3, no. 5 (2014): 721–723. </a></p><p><strong>III. REGULATORY &amp; CLINICAL</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2024/217779s000lbl.pdf">Prescribing Information (Label) U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “RYTELO (imetelstat) for injection: Highlights of Prescribing Information.” NDA 217779. June 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/appletter/2024/217779Orig1s000ltr.pdf">NDA Approval Letter U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “NDA Approval Letter: RYTELO (imetelstat) for injection.” NDA 217779. June 6, 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2024/217779Orig1s000OtherR.pdf">Multi-Discipline Review &amp; Evaluation U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “NDA Multi-Disciplinary Review and Evaluation: RYTELO (imetelstat).” NDA 217779Orig1s000. 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/media/176966/download">ODAC Briefing Document U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “FDA Briefing Document: Oncologic Drugs Advisory Committee Meeting, NDA 217779, Imetelstat.” March 14, 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2024/217779Orig1s000RiskR.pdf">REMS/Risk Assessment Review U.S. Food and Drug Administration. “Risk Assessment and Risk Mitigation Review: RYTELO (imetelstat).” NDA 217779Orig1s000. 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/JCO-25-01369">Kim, N. et al. “US Food and Drug Administration Approval Summary: Imetelstat for Selected Patients With Low- to Intermediate-1 Risk Myelodysplastic Syndromes With Transfusion-Dependent Anemia.” <em>The Oncologist</em> (2025). PMID: 41135032.</a></p><p><a href="https://www.fda.gov/drugs/resources-information-approved-drugs/fda-approves-imetelstat-low-intermediate-1-risk-myelodysplastic-syndromes-transfusion-dependent">FDA. “FDA Approves Imetelstat for Low- to Intermediate-1-Risk Myelodysplastic Syndromes with Transfusion-Dependent Anemia.” June 2024.</a></p><p><a href="https://icer.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/MDS_Final-Report_For-Publication_08222024.pdf">ICER. “Evidence Report: Treatment for Anemia in Myelodysplastic Syndrome.” August 2024. </a></p><p><a href="https://icer.org/news-insights/press-releases/institute-for-clinical-and-economic-review-publishes-evidence-report-on-treatment-for-anemia-in-myelodysplastic-syndrome/">ICER. Press Release on Imetelstat Evidence Assessment. </a></p><p><a href="https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT01217008">ClinicalTrials.gov. GRNOPC1 Phase I Trial. NCT01217008. </a></p><p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4553145/">Myelodysplastic Syndrome Epidemiology. PMC4553145.</a></p><p><a href="https://ashpublications.org/blood/article/142/26/2247/498176/Diagnosis-and-classification-of-myelodysplastic">MDS Risk and AML Progression. Blood (2023). </a></p><p><strong>IV. CORPORATE FILINGS &amp; PRESENTATIONS</strong></p><p><a href="https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront..."></a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/66IeBvvuoDma0ysf8c4I8Z">Spotify</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-amylin-pharmaceuticals/id1873356046?i=1000747377804">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddzPaXBzqg">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>TABLE OF CONTENTS</strong></p><p>(00:00:00) - Introduction</p><p>(00:04:40) - $50 of Dried Lizard Venom</p><p>(00:29:17) - Fax of Death</p><p>(00:43:04) - Sleeping Beauty Awakens</p><p>(00:52:07) - Carl Icahn Sends a Letter</p><p>(01:09:19) - Endgame</p><p>(01:13:40) - Postmortem &amp; Playbook</p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p>Co-hosted by Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech </p><p>Written, edited, and produced by Alex Kesin</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoCA4taNyg">“Food”</a> by nerowski</p><p>* Special thanks to the team at <a href="https://www.nfx.com/">NFX</a> for the use of their recording studio.</p><p>SOURCES</p><p><strong><em>Last updated: January 2026</em></strong></p><p><strong>I. PRIMARY DOCUMENTS</strong></p><p><strong>FDA Regulatory Documents</strong></p><p><strong>Symlin (pramlintide acetate) - NDA 21-332</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_approv.PDF">Approval Letter &amp; Package (March 16, 2005)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_medr.PDF">Medical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_statr.PDF">Statistical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_biopharmr.PDF">Clinical Pharmacology &amp; Biopharmaceutics Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_admincorres.PDF">Administrative Documents &amp; Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>Byetta (exenatide) - NDA 21-773</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_approv.PDF">Approval Letter &amp; Package (April 28, 2005)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_medr.PDF">Medical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_statr.PDF">Statistical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_biopharmr.PDF">Clinical Pharmacology &amp; Biopharmaceutics Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_admincorres.PDF">Administrative Documents &amp; Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>Bydureon (exenatide ER) - NDA 22-200</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Approv.pdf">Approval Letter (January 27, 2012)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000OtherActionLtrs.pdf">Other Action Letters (Complete Response)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000SumRedt.pdf">Summary Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Rems.pdf">REMS</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Admincorresedt.pdf">Administrative Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>SEC Filings &amp; Financial Documents</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000110465906007417/a06-4671_1ex99d1.htm">Amylin 2005 Results Press Release (Ex-99.1, 8-K)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000110465908005085/a08-3824_1ex99d1.htm">Amylin 2007 Results Press Release (Ex-99.1)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000119312512072788/d260205d10k.htm">Amylin 2011 Form 10-K (Net Product Sales)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/cf-noaction/2009/icahnassociates032709-sec14-incoming.pdf">Carl Icahn SEC Filing (Schedule 13D)</a></p><p><strong>Proxy Fight &amp; Legal Documents</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/letter-from-carl-icahn-to-amylin-pharmaceutical">Carl Icahn Letter to Amylin (April 15, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/amylin-letter-to-carl-icahn">Amylin Response to Icahn (April 20, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://cvn.com/proceedings/police-fund-v-bradbury-amylin-trial-2009-05-04">Police Fund v. Bradbury (Amylin) Trial (May 4, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://investor.lilly.com/static-files/51a2a9a3-6b73-4e44-9f48-c22133624708">Lilly Litigation Ruling (May 25, 2011)</a></p><p><strong>II. ORAL HISTORY &amp; INTERVIEWS</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb2187116q/_1_1.pdf">Howard Greene Oral History (UCSD Library, October 8, 2008)</a><em> - Primary source for Hybritech founding, Ted Greene’s background, and early Amylin history</em></p><p><strong>III. NEWS &amp; TRADE PRESS</strong></p><p><strong>2000</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-rumsfeld-resume/">“The Rumsfeld Resume” - CBS News (December 28, 2000)</a><em> - Donald Rumsfeld’s board tenure at Amylin (1991-1996)</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/0724/6603205a.html">“Roller Coasting” - Forbes (July 24, 2000)</a><em> - Joe Cook narrative, J&amp;J partnership collapse</em></p><p><strong>2005</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/19/business/investing-for-a-profit-and-a-daughters-health.html">“Investing for a Profit and a Daughter’s Health” - NYT (March 19, 2005)</a><em> - Allen Andersson investment story, “tablecloth deal”</em></p><p><strong>2006</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/02/business/worldbusiness/02iht-drug.html">“Diabetics see hope (and weight loss) in new drug” - NYT (March 2, 2006)</a><em> - “Lizzie” nickname, patient testimonials</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/22/business/22diabetes.html">“4 Diabetes Drugs Are Seen Raising Hope and Profit” - NYT (June 22, 2006)</a><em> - Manufacturing shortage, 400,000+ patients</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/dont-kill-life-saving-drugs">“Don’t kill off life-saving drugs” - Heritage Foundation (August 15, 2006)</a><em> - Policy perspective on Byetta’s potential impact</em></p><p>* <a href="https://diatribe.org/diabetes-medications/byetta-craze-first-salvo-promising-new-line-drugs">“Byetta Craze Is First Salvo in Promising New Line of Drugs” - diaTribe</a><em> - ADA conference chaos, “one man cried”</em></p><p><strong>2007</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.diabetesincontrol.com/dr-john-engs-research-found-that-the-saliva-of-the-gila-monster-contains-a-hormone-that-treats-diabetes-better-than-any-other-medicine/">Dr. John Eng Profile - Diabetes In Control (September 18, 2007)</a><em> - Eng’s discovery story, patent struggles, Amylin vs. Lilly negotiations</em></p><p><strong>2008</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.biospace.com/xenome-ltd-names-b-ian-t-nisbet-phd-b-as-ceo">Xenome/Amylin Partnership - BioSpace (February 5, 2008)</a><em> - Venom peptide library partnership</em></p><p><strong>2009</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2009/10/10/eastbourne-capital-sells-entire-stake-in-amylin/">Eastbourne Capital Sells Stake - San Diego Union-Tribune (October 10, 2009)</a><em> - End of Eastbourne activist campaign</em></p><p>* <a href="https://cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/clinical/structural-heart-disease/survey-additional-diabetes-drugs-dpp-iv-inhibitors-needed">Survey: Additional Diabetes Dru...</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/66IeBvvuoDma0ysf8c4I8Z">Spotify</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-amylin-pharmaceuticals/id1873356046?i=1000747377804">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddzPaXBzqg">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>TABLE OF CONTENTS</strong></p><p>(00:00:00) - Introduction</p><p>(00:04:40) - $50 of Dried Lizard Venom</p><p>(00:29:17) - Fax of Death</p><p>(00:43:04) - Sleeping Beauty Awakens</p><p>(00:52:07) - Carl Icahn Sends a Letter</p><p>(01:09:19) - Endgame</p><p>(01:13:40) - Postmortem &amp; Playbook</p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p>Co-hosted by Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech </p><p>Written, edited, and produced by Alex Kesin</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoCA4taNyg">“Food”</a> by nerowski</p><p>* Special thanks to the team at <a href="https://www.nfx.com/">NFX</a> for the use of their recording studio.</p><p>SOURCES</p><p><strong><em>Last updated: January 2026</em></strong></p><p><strong>I. PRIMARY DOCUMENTS</strong></p><p><strong>FDA Regulatory Documents</strong></p><p><strong>Symlin (pramlintide acetate) - NDA 21-332</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_approv.PDF">Approval Letter &amp; Package (March 16, 2005)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_medr.PDF">Medical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_statr.PDF">Statistical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_biopharmr.PDF">Clinical Pharmacology &amp; Biopharmaceutics Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_admincorres.PDF">Administrative Documents &amp; Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>Byetta (exenatide) - NDA 21-773</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_approv.PDF">Approval Letter &amp; Package (April 28, 2005)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_medr.PDF">Medical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_statr.PDF">Statistical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_biopharmr.PDF">Clinical Pharmacology &amp; Biopharmaceutics Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_admincorres.PDF">Administrative Documents &amp; Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>Bydureon (exenatide ER) - NDA 22-200</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Approv.pdf">Approval Letter (January 27, 2012)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000OtherActionLtrs.pdf">Other Action Letters (Complete Response)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000SumRedt.pdf">Summary Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Rems.pdf">REMS</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Admincorresedt.pdf">Administrative Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>SEC Filings &amp; Financial Documents</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000110465906007417/a06-4671_1ex99d1.htm">Amylin 2005 Results Press Release (Ex-99.1, 8-K)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000110465908005085/a08-3824_1ex99d1.htm">Amylin 2007 Results Press Release (Ex-99.1)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000119312512072788/d260205d10k.htm">Amylin 2011 Form 10-K (Net Product Sales)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/cf-noaction/2009/icahnassociates032709-sec14-incoming.pdf">Carl Icahn SEC Filing (Schedule 13D)</a></p><p><strong>Proxy Fight &amp; Legal Documents</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/letter-from-carl-icahn-to-amylin-pharmaceutical">Carl Icahn Letter to Amylin (April 15, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/amylin-letter-to-carl-icahn">Amylin Response to Icahn (April 20, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://cvn.com/proceedings/police-fund-v-bradbury-amylin-trial-2009-05-04">Police Fund v. Bradbury (Amylin) Trial (May 4, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://investor.lilly.com/static-files/51a2a9a3-6b73-4e44-9f48-c22133624708">Lilly Litigation Ruling (May 25, 2011)</a></p><p><strong>II. ORAL HISTORY &amp; INTERVIEWS</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb2187116q/_1_1.pdf">Howard Greene Oral History (UCSD Library, October 8, 2008)</a><em> - Primary source for Hybritech founding, Ted Greene’s background, and early Amylin history</em></p><p><strong>III. NEWS &amp; TRADE PRESS</strong></p><p><strong>2000</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-rumsfeld-resume/">“The Rumsfeld Resume” - CBS News (December 28, 2000)</a><em> - Donald Rumsfeld’s board tenure at Amylin (1991-1996)</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/0724/6603205a.html">“Roller Coasting” - Forbes (July 24, 2000)</a><em> - Joe Cook narrative, J&amp;J partnership collapse</em></p><p><strong>2005</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/19/business/investing-for-a-profit-and-a-daughters-health.html">“Investing for a Profit and a Daughter’s Health” - NYT (March 19, 2005)</a><em> - Allen Andersson investment story, “tablecloth deal”</em></p><p><strong>2006</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/02/business/worldbusiness/02iht-drug.html">“Diabetics see hope (and weight loss) in new drug” - NYT (March 2, 2006)</a><em> - “Lizzie” nickname, patient testimonials</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/22/business/22diabetes.html">“4 Diabetes Drugs Are Seen Raising Hope and Profit” - NYT (June 22, 2006)</a><em> - Manufacturing shortage, 400,000+ patients</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/dont-kill-life-saving-drugs">“Don’t kill off life-saving drugs” - Heritage Foundation (August 15, 2006)</a><em> - Policy perspective on Byetta’s potential impact</em></p><p>* <a href="https://diatribe.org/diabetes-medications/byetta-craze-first-salvo-promising-new-line-drugs">“Byetta Craze Is First Salvo in Promising New Line of Drugs” - diaTribe</a><em> - ADA conference chaos, “one man cried”</em></p><p><strong>2007</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.diabetesincontrol.com/dr-john-engs-research-found-that-the-saliva-of-the-gila-monster-contains-a-hormone-that-treats-diabetes-better-than-any-other-medicine/">Dr. John Eng Profile - Diabetes In Control (September 18, 2007)</a><em> - Eng’s discovery story, patent struggles, Amylin vs. Lilly negotiations</em></p><p><strong>2008</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.biospace.com/xenome-ltd-names-b-ian-t-nisbet-phd-b-as-ceo">Xenome/Amylin Partnership - BioSpace (February 5, 2008)</a><em> - Venom peptide library partnership</em></p><p><strong>2009</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2009/10/10/eastbourne-capital-sells-entire-stake-in-amylin/">Eastbourne Capital Sells Stake - San Diego Union-Tribune (October 10, 2009)</a><em> - End of Eastbourne activist campaign</em></p><p>* <a href="https://cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/clinical/structural-heart-disease/survey-additional-diabetes-drugs-dpp-iv-inhibitors-needed">Survey: Additional Diabetes Dru...</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen on <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/66IeBvvuoDma0ysf8c4I8Z">Spotify</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-amylin-pharmaceuticals/id1873356046?i=1000747377804">Apple Podcasts</a></p><p>Listen on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddzPaXBzqg">YouTube</a></p><p><strong>TABLE OF CONTENTS</strong></p><p>(00:00:00) - Introduction</p><p>(00:04:40) - $50 of Dried Lizard Venom</p><p>(00:29:17) - Fax of Death</p><p>(00:43:04) - Sleeping Beauty Awakens</p><p>(00:52:07) - Carl Icahn Sends a Letter</p><p>(01:09:19) - Endgame</p><p>(01:13:40) - Postmortem &amp; Playbook</p><p><strong>CREDITS</strong></p><p>Co-hosted by Alex Kesin and Matthew Pech </p><p>Written, edited, and produced by Alex Kesin</p><p>Music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PoCA4taNyg">“Food”</a> by nerowski</p><p>* Special thanks to the team at <a href="https://www.nfx.com/">NFX</a> for the use of their recording studio.</p><p>SOURCES</p><p><strong><em>Last updated: January 2026</em></strong></p><p><strong>I. PRIMARY DOCUMENTS</strong></p><p><strong>FDA Regulatory Documents</strong></p><p><strong>Symlin (pramlintide acetate) - NDA 21-332</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_approv.PDF">Approval Letter &amp; Package (March 16, 2005)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_medr.PDF">Medical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_statr.PDF">Statistical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_biopharmr.PDF">Clinical Pharmacology &amp; Biopharmaceutics Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/21-332_Symlin%2520Injection_admincorres.PDF">Administrative Documents &amp; Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>Byetta (exenatide) - NDA 21-773</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_approv.PDF">Approval Letter &amp; Package (April 28, 2005)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_medr.PDF">Medical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_statr.PDF">Statistical Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_biopharmr.PDF">Clinical Pharmacology &amp; Biopharmaceutics Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2005/021773_Byetta_admincorres.PDF">Administrative Documents &amp; Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>Bydureon (exenatide ER) - NDA 22-200</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Approv.pdf">Approval Letter (January 27, 2012)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000OtherActionLtrs.pdf">Other Action Letters (Complete Response)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000SumRedt.pdf">Summary Review</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Rems.pdf">REMS</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2012/022200Orig1s000Admincorresedt.pdf">Administrative Correspondence</a></p><p><strong>SEC Filings &amp; Financial Documents</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000110465906007417/a06-4671_1ex99d1.htm">Amylin 2005 Results Press Release (Ex-99.1, 8-K)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000110465908005085/a08-3824_1ex99d1.htm">Amylin 2007 Results Press Release (Ex-99.1)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/881464/000119312512072788/d260205d10k.htm">Amylin 2011 Form 10-K (Net Product Sales)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/cf-noaction/2009/icahnassociates032709-sec14-incoming.pdf">Carl Icahn SEC Filing (Schedule 13D)</a></p><p><strong>Proxy Fight &amp; Legal Documents</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/letter-from-carl-icahn-to-amylin-pharmaceutical">Carl Icahn Letter to Amylin (April 15, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/amylin-letter-to-carl-icahn">Amylin Response to Icahn (April 20, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://cvn.com/proceedings/police-fund-v-bradbury-amylin-trial-2009-05-04">Police Fund v. Bradbury (Amylin) Trial (May 4, 2009)</a></p><p>* <a href="https://investor.lilly.com/static-files/51a2a9a3-6b73-4e44-9f48-c22133624708">Lilly Litigation Ruling (May 25, 2011)</a></p><p><strong>II. ORAL HISTORY &amp; INTERVIEWS</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://library.ucsd.edu/dc/object/bb2187116q/_1_1.pdf">Howard Greene Oral History (UCSD Library, October 8, 2008)</a><em> - Primary source for Hybritech founding, Ted Greene’s background, and early Amylin history</em></p><p><strong>III. NEWS &amp; TRADE PRESS</strong></p><p><strong>2000</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-rumsfeld-resume/">“The Rumsfeld Resume” - CBS News (December 28, 2000)</a><em> - Donald Rumsfeld’s board tenure at Amylin (1991-1996)</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2000/0724/6603205a.html">“Roller Coasting” - Forbes (July 24, 2000)</a><em> - Joe Cook narrative, J&amp;J partnership collapse</em></p><p><strong>2005</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/19/business/investing-for-a-profit-and-a-daughters-health.html">“Investing for a Profit and a Daughter’s Health” - NYT (March 19, 2005)</a><em> - Allen Andersson investment story, “tablecloth deal”</em></p><p><strong>2006</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/02/business/worldbusiness/02iht-drug.html">“Diabetics see hope (and weight loss) in new drug” - NYT (March 2, 2006)</a><em> - “Lizzie” nickname, patient testimonials</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/22/business/22diabetes.html">“4 Diabetes Drugs Are Seen Raising Hope and Profit” - NYT (June 22, 2006)</a><em> - Manufacturing shortage, 400,000+ patients</em></p><p>* <a href="https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/dont-kill-life-saving-drugs">“Don’t kill off life-saving drugs” - Heritage Foundation (August 15, 2006)</a><em> - Policy perspective on Byetta’s potential impact</em></p><p>* <a href="https://diatribe.org/diabetes-medications/byetta-craze-first-salvo-promising-new-line-drugs">“Byetta Craze Is First Salvo in Promising New Line of Drugs” - diaTribe</a><em> - ADA conference chaos, “one man cried”</em></p><p><strong>2007</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.diabetesincontrol.com/dr-john-engs-research-found-that-the-saliva-of-the-gila-monster-contains-a-hormone-that-treats-diabetes-better-than-any-other-medicine/">Dr. John Eng Profile - Diabetes In Control (September 18, 2007)</a><em> - Eng’s discovery story, patent struggles, Amylin vs. Lilly negotiations</em></p><p><strong>2008</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.biospace.com/xenome-ltd-names-b-ian-t-nisbet-phd-b-as-ceo">Xenome/Amylin Partnership - BioSpace (February 5, 2008)</a><em> - Venom peptide library partnership</em></p><p><strong>2009</strong></p><p>* <a href="https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2009/10/10/eastbourne-capital-sells-entire-stake-in-amylin/">Eastbourne Capital Sells Stake - San Diego Union-Tribune (October 10, 2009)</a><em> - End of Eastbourne activist campaign</em></p><p>* <a href="https://cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/clinical/structural-heart-disease/survey-additional-diabetes-drugs-dpp-iv-inhibitors-needed">Survey: Additional Diabetes Dru...</a></p>]]>
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