Nikki also shares what it was like to start her new role as director the very day after a devastating hurricane hit her home base. This episode shares how ACE’s capacity extends beyond chainsaws but provides a heart-first, technical approach that includes everything from setting up large donation centers to ‘muck and gut’ work for residents who want to return to their homes. ACE also helps restore natural habitats on public lands devastated by disasters. 

Learn what it's like to lead conservation crews on intensive 8-day hitches, balancing safety, teaching new members, and experiencing transformative impact while building trails and restoring natural habitats. They paint a vibrant picture of conservation work and illustrate the profound impact of conservation efforts both on the environment and on the individuals involved, emphasizing the mental and physical growth. You’ll even learn how mules play a role in gauging the success of trail restoration!

Tune in to appreciate the hard work and passion that goes into preserving our public lands.

Together, they explore what makes backcountry hitches such uniquely powerful experiences. From the joy of living immersed in wild places to the personal breakthroughs that happen miles from the trailhead, Caroline and Keean share stories of resilience, confidence-building, and unforgettable wilderness moments—including wildlife encounters, personal transformations, and the camaraderie that makes conservation culture so meaningful.

And for anyone considering their first step into the outdoors, the episode offers practical, beginner-friendly backpacking tips—from choosing the right gear and managing pack weight to staying comfortable in challenging environments. Caroline and Keean share the guidance they give new ACE members and students, including the small skills and mindset shifts that make backcountry travel accessible to anyone.

Whether you’re a seasoned backpacker, an aspiring ACE member, or simply curious about what life looks like behind the scenes on a conservation crew, this episode is packed with insight, humor, and inspiration from people who have lived it.

Silas, an ACE EPIC member serving with the Bureau of Land Management, shares his transition from a degree in communication to a career in conservation, and his experiences working with a state-based conservation corps and the US Fish and Wildlife Services. Ellen Bley, ACE Fish and Wildlife Division Director, provides insights into her rewarding career in helping to inspire the next generation of conservation stewards. 

From fieldwork to mentorship, Silas and Ellen share how everyday actions—whether volunteering locally or joining a conservation program—can create lasting change. Their stories remind us that conservation is not just about protecting nature; it’s about belonging to something larger than ourselves.

Tune in for an inspiring discussion that celebrates curiosity, resilience, and the many ways we can all contribute to the future of our shared lands.

The episode highlights the critical role conservation crews play in supporting land management and facilitating public access to natural spaces, and it stresses the importance of resilience, teamwork, and passion for conservation. 

In this episode, we'll dive into the origins of ACE, founded in Flagstaff, Arizona, in 2004, as well as the overall corps movement. The episode also highlights the two key programs that define our work: the CREW program, which focuses on meaningful hands-on conservation projects like trail building and habitat restoration, and the EPIC program, which helps emerging professionals build careers through specialized internships with leading agencies.

You'll get a glimpse into how our corps members and staff work alongside partners like the National Park Service and the Bureau of Land Management to protect and restore America's natural and cultural resources. We'll also set the stage for future episodes, where you'll hear directly from the alumni, current members, and others who are shaping the future of conservation, one project at a time.

In this podcast, hosts Dave Bastian and Elyse Cogburn take you into the field with American Conservation Experience (ACE), a leading nonprofit conservation corps where emerging professionals tackle real-world projects that improve trails, restore public lands, and create resilient habitats benefiting our shared outdoor spaces.

Tune in to hear inspiring stories of how ACE empowers the next generation, building crucial hands-on skills, strengthening communities, and ensuring our shared outdoor spaces thrive for all to enjoy.

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Episode One drops on September 4th.

To learn more about ACE, visit usaconservation.org