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        <![CDATA[<p>Your AI agent has no ads. Yet. Kiri Masters on why ads are coming to personal AI agents, and how they could be less annoying this time.</p><p>Welcome to AdGentic, the new show about advertising in the agentic era. In this debut episode, self-confessed advertising maximalist Kiri Masters traces how Google, Facebook, WhatsApp and Amazon all started clean and ended up ad-funded, and why AI is following the same script.</p><p>In this episode:</p><ul><li>Why subscriptions cap out and fees quietly turn into ads</li><li>How Meta's Muse, OpenAI's Dots and Instinct plan to make money</li><li>The AI ad formats emerging now, and the ones agents could borrow</li><li>Kiri's wish list for Ad Santa, and the scenario to actually worry about</li></ul><p><br>Chapters:</p><p>00:25 Welcome to AdGentic<br>00:50 The magic of an ad-free agent<br>01:55 Every platform starts like this: Google<br>02:30 Facebook and the scarf<br>03:05 WhatsApp's "No Ads!" note<br>03:25 Amazon: the store became the content<br>04:00 Enshittification<br>04:40 Why I'm an advertising maximalist<br>05:05 Three ways to pay for an app<br>06:20 How Muse, Dots and Instinct plan to make money<br>07:05 The problem with subscriptions<br>07:30 Why fees turn into ads<br>08:25 How bad will it be?<br>09:15 AI ad formats so far<br>09:55 Formats agents could borrow<br>10:25 Off-site: ads without ads<br>11:20 Kiri's wish list for Ad Santa<br>11:50 The dark scenario<br>12:30 Ads are the least worst</p><p>The diagrams and examples from this episode are on YouTube: https://youtu.be/udhWh-sEPCQ</p><p>Subscribe to AdGentic<br>Substack: https://www.adgentic.ai/<br>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adgentic-podcast<br>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZoauftrKx40RJ14tj1m8Cw</p><p>AdGentic is part of the ReFiBuy Media Network.</p>]]>
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