The conversation covers why a "successful" calibration screen doesn't always mean a safe one, what shops get wrong about setup and execution, and how Darren's team handles the gray area between required and recommended procedures (they perform the work and eat the cost if reimbursement doesn't come through). Darren also walks through the 360 OEM laptop he spent 18 months engineering to consolidate every manufacturer's diagnostic software onto a single device, and explains how short-term licensing makes OEM tools financially accessible for shops that only see certain brands a few times a year.

What we discuss:

• Why reading OEM service information is the most underused (and most valuable) resource in the industry
• How modern vehicles are diagnostic networks on wheels and why technicians need to understand the science behind the sensors
• The difference between a calibration that passes and one that's actually safe
• Makeshift target setups, gravel parking lots, and why some calibrations may be more dangerous than skipping the procedure entirely
• Toyota's retroactive service information changes and how they caught shops off guard
• Required vs. recommended: how Darren's service company approaches gray-area calibrations
• Building carrier relationships through transparency, documentation, and being a diagnostic resource
• How early overbilling in the ADAS space created lasting skepticism from insurers
• The 360 OEM laptop: consolidating every manufacturer's software onto one device
• Short-term OEM licensing as an affordable alternative to full annual subscriptions
• What shops should evaluate before bringing ADAS in-house vs. subletting
• Why a hybrid model (in-house for common work, sublet for edge cases) makes sense for most operations
• Equipment ROI: most customers pay off their investment within six months
• Why diagnostics and ADAS are no longer optional, and shops without a plan will get left behind

Darren emphasizes that the industry needs better standards, better training, and a willingness to invest in doing things the right way. Whether a shop sublets to a trusted provider or brings calibrations in-house, the priority has to be safety and proper documentation. The shops that treat ADAS as optional are running out of time.

Guest: Darren Sodoski, Co-Founder, National Calibrations and Diagnostics / CIO, ProMobile and Scan Host: Joel Adcock, Revv Resources: Learn more at revvhq.com

Jay's company evolved from recruiting to job boards to something more foundational: ASE Connects, a shop membership platform designed to bring industry stakeholders together around schools that need help. The conversation covers why moving technicians from shop to shop doesn't fix the pipeline, why collision and automotive programs are shutting down (including one Jay attended as an apprentice), and what it actually costs to restart a program once it closes.

What we discuss:

• Why Wrenchway stopped recruiting and pivoted to supporting education infrastructure
• ASE Connects: bringing dealers, independents, fleets, and partners together (not competing for the same resources)
• The shocking lack of data on how many automotive and collision programs exist in the U.S.
• Documenting every school state-by-state to identify which programs need support
• Small-town schools with 50 students per class: how to connect those kids to the industry
• Work experience, job shadowing, apprenticeships as early exposure strategies
• Why overwhelming instructors with fragmented industry outreach can backfire
• The Voice of Technician survey and technician pay tool (built with ASE)
• ADAS as a microcosm of the trust problem: selling calibrations to consumers who don't understand them
• How consumer education, shop professionalism, and transparency rebuild trust
• Why acting like a CEO (processes, people, customer education) matters now more than ever
• What happens when shops don't invest: long-term loss of community trust and viability
• ASE and I-CAR's consumer awareness efforts and why the next five years are critical

Jay emphasizes that fixing the technician shortage requires collaboration, not competition. Shops can't keep poaching from each other. Instead, the industry needs to stabilize education programs, connect students to real opportunities, and show consumers why modern repair work (including ADAS) requires investment in both technology and people.

Guest:
Jay Goninen, Co-Founder & President, Wrenchway

Host:
Joel Adcock, Revv

Resources:
Learn more at revvhq.com

All three came to ADAS from different angles: Mark owned a collision shop for 20+ years before selling and opening dedicated calibration centers in 2023. Brandon started with a glass company 10 years ago, worked for Autel and Launch, then went independent three years ago (and co-owns the ADAS Network). Michael grew up in the collision industry (his family runs nine locations in Ottawa) and started Essential Auto to give shops a trusted alternative to dealership-only calibrations.

What we discuss:

• Shops still resisting ADAS calibrations: "Insurance won't pay for it" and "No lights, no problem"
• Why new estimators and managers need re-education when they join existing accounts
• The difference between being able to do calibrations versus knowing when they're actually required
• OEM position statements: how shops miss critical updates and create liability gaps
• Space requirements for static calibrations (vehicles with trailers, alignment racks, environmental conditions)
• Equipment sales pitches versus reality: $100,000 investments collecting dust in corners
• Why teaching a porter or detailer to run calibrations usually fails
• Dedicated space and dedicated personnel requirements for in-house operations
• Real failure scenarios: spending six hours on a single calibration
• How shops that bought equipment often sell it within a year and return to sublet partners
• Consumer awareness: explaining ADAS to customers who don't understand what's on their vehicles
• Real-world save stories: Michael's automatic emergency braking stopping for a cyclist he didn't see
• The insurance question: why calibrations are required regardless of whether lights are on
• Building relationships with sublet providers before buying equipment (don't burn bridges)
• ADAS technicians as specialists parallel to collision repair technicians (both are experts in different domains)

Mark emphasizes that equipment vendors sell tools and stands, but don't prepare shops for the diagnostic realities of failed calibrations or space constraints. Brandon notes that his biggest push in 2026 is reaching holdout shops that still think lights determine calibration needs. Michael stresses consumer education and liability—shops need to explain why calibrations matter, not just add line items to estimates.

The panel agrees: ADAS is here, vehicles are getting more complex, and shops need trusted calibration partners whether they're subletting or building in-house capability. Education remains the biggest barrier—both for shops and consumers.

Guests:
Mark Bruno, ADAS Calibrations of Florida
Brandon Miller, Miller Diagnostics (Co-Owner, ADAS Network)
Michael Frangione, Essential Auto, Ottawa

Host:
Joel Adcock, Revv

Resources:
Learn more at revvhq.com

Katie comes from the National Safety Council and is a fatality crash survivor. She focuses on driver behavior, vehicle safety technology, and helping consumers understand the features protecting them. Adam spent 20 years in automotive repair, including extensive work with Mobile Service Group diagnosing and repairing safety systems before joining On the Road Garage to build ADAS capability from the ground up.

The conversation covers practical realities: how shops stay current with weekly OEM position statement changes, why Honda and Subaru now require OEM-specific scan tools (not just OEM-compatible), what happens when calibrations fail, and how proper shop culture creates 99% first-time calibration success rates.

🔧 What we discuss:

• Why ADAS is on 90% of vehicles today (not a future problem)
• How On the Road Garage maintains culture where every vehicle gets proper ADAS attention
• Weekly review process for OEM service information and position statements
• Prerequisites for technicians doing ADAS work (electrical systems, alignment, diagnostics)
• Real failure scenarios: sensors installed backwards, paint thickness problems, missed prerequisites
• Why dedicated calibration space reduces cycle time and improves success rates
• Apprenticeship programs training next-generation ADAS technicians
• Consumer questions to ask shops: "Is everything included in this estimate?"
• How service advisors present ADAS calibrations to retail customers (minimal pushback)
• Why sublet liability always traces back to the originating shop
• The shift from OEM-compatible tools to OEM-required tools (Honda, Subaru leading)

Katie and Adam both emphasize the same advice for shop owners: invest in your people. Training, continuous learning, proper environment, and team buy-in matter more than any single piece of equipment. The conversation also covers why FMVSS 127 (automatic emergency braking mandate by 2029) will accelerate OEM requirements and why shops need dedicated calibration space before that deadline.

Whether you're a collision shop owner, technician, estimator, or insurance professional, this episode demonstrates what proper ADAS process looks like in practice—and why culture drives results.

Guests:
Katie Mueller, On the Road Garage
Adam Newberry, On the Road Garage

Host:
Joel Adcock, Revv

Resources:
Learn more at revvhq.com

As ADAS-equipped vehicles continue to dominate the road, repair facilities are facing new challenges around equipment selection, space constraints, training, and OEM compliance. This conversation goes beyond surface-level discussions to break down how shops can confidently choose the right ADAS calibration tools—and avoid costly mistakes.

🔧 Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

• How shops evaluate ADAS calibration equipment based on vehicle mix, space, and volume
• Differences between static and dynamic calibrations and what equipment is required for each
• How much physical space is actually needed to perform most ADAS calibrations
• Why “a scan is not a calibration” and how misunderstanding this creates risk and liability
• The evolution of ADAS hardware, including automation, self-leveling frames, digital targeting, and tablet upgrades
• Real-world examples showing how ADAS equipment can deliver ROI in under a year
• The importance of on-site training, ongoing support, and proper setup environments
• Common misconceptions about mobile calibrations and outdoor setups

Greg and Will also share insight from years of working directly with collision centers, glass shops, and MSOs, explaining how successful shops approach ADAS as a capability—not just a piece of equipment. The discussion highlights why education, workflow planning, and software-driven decision-making are just as critical as the hardware itself.

Whether you’re a collision repair professional, glass shop owner, calibration technician, MSO leader, or insurer, this episode delivers practical guidance on how to invest in ADAS calibration equipment with confidence—while improving safety, profitability, and repair accuracy.

👉 Listen now to learn how the right combination of ADAS equipment, training, automation, and process can transform calibration from a bottleneck into a strategic advantage.

We cover what to expect at MSO Symposium, CIC, and SEMA, fresh insights from CCC Crash Course, the case for doing some calibrations in-house (and when to sublet), technician and training gaps, OEM terminology headaches, and why standardizing around sensors/components (radar/camera) is the practical path forward. If you’re aiming to reduce supplements, cut length-of-rental, and ship safer cars, this one’s your playbook.

🎧 Powered by Revv — Ensure every vehicle leaves safe, compliant, and fully documented. Learn more or book a demo: https://www.revvhq.com/

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 Welcome & who this show is for
 00:26 Why SEMA/CIC/MSO Symposium matter this year
 01:32 CCC × Revv integration: the “why” and what shops get
 06:56 Catching calibrations earlier (E1 vs. S1+)
 08:44 Cycle-time impact per calibration & how to mitigate
 12:28 What’s next: potential ADAS regulations & inspections
 16:07 Educating consumers and shops (beyond PSAs)
 18:22 Calibration penetration today vs. where it should be
 19:49 OEM terminology & a practical standard (by sensor)
 23:03 Diagnostics Workflow + Revv recs inside CCC ONE
 30:39 In-house vs. sublet: space, tooling, liability
 32:00 Specialization & OEM certifications as strategy
 39:33 Dan’s 5-minute advice to every shop owner
 41:49 Continuous learning & why events still matter
 43:16 Final thoughts & see you at SEMA

👤 Guest

Dan Risley — VP, Quality Repair & Market Development, CCC Intelligent Solutions
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-risley-83410868/

🎙️ Host

Joel Adcock — Director of Strategic Partnerships, Revv
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-adcock37/

Key Takeaways

• Identify calibrations early: tools now surface prescriptive operations at estimate time to reduce supplements and rental days.
• Document with standardized ops: CCC ONE + Revv maps to MOTOR entries for clear, compliant line items—no cryptic “CALIB” notes.
• Cycle-time compounds: more calibrations = more days; in-house capacity and reliable sublet partners are both strategic levers.
• Specialize smartly: focus brands where you can justify equipment, targets, space, and training.
• Continuous learning wins: procedures evolve—so should your people and processes.

🔗 Resources

• Learn more / Book a Revv demo → https://www.revvhq.com/

Nick shares his journey into the automotive insurance space and how RRM Insurance has become a trusted partner for collision shops, dealerships, and service providers nationwide. He unpacks the unique risks tied to subletting calibrations, vetting subcontractors, and ensuring proper liability coverage, revealing why many shops may be more exposed than they realize.

The conversation goes beyond the basics of garage keepers and general liability to explore emerging risks like cybersecurity, professional liability, and employment practices coverage—areas where gaps can quickly lead to multimillion-dollar claims. Nick also shares practical strategies for shop owners, from collecting certificates of insurance to developing employee handbooks and protocols that mitigate risk both in the bay and in the back office.

You’ll also hear about:

• Why liability from subcontracted calibrations always rolls back to the shop
• Best practices for vetting and contracting with ADAS providers and other vendors
• How exclusions in policies can leave shops non-compliant with DRP contracts
• The rising importance of cyber liability in an era of connected vehicles
• Why working with an industry-specialized insurance agency makes all the difference

Whether you’re a shop owner, technician, or vendor partner, this episode is packed with actionable insights to safeguard your business and ensure vehicles are returned to customers safely and correctly.

🎧 Listen now to learn how Nick Melon and RRM Insurance are helping collision repair shops navigate today’s complex risk landscape with confidence.

🔗 Resources mentioned in the episode:
 RRM Insurance: rrmins.com

Contact Nick directly: nick@rrmins.com
| (623) 777-4471

Jason shares his multi-decade journey in the industry—from winning state championships with SkillsUSA as a student, to leading national competitions and shaping the next generation of skilled technicians. He dives deep into the evolution of the SkillsUSA collision repair competitions, how they're keeping pace with ADAS and advanced vehicle technologies, and why technician development begins with early exposure and hands-on education.

The episode also explores Jason's latest initiative: Back Bay, a revolutionary Discord-based support and micro-learning platform designed specifically for collision repair technicians. Learn how Back Bay connects technicians with OEM experts, tool and equipment manufacturers, and each other for real-time technical support and bite-sized learning—without the negativity often found on traditional social media.

You’ll also hear about:

• Why microlearning and peer-to-peer support are game changers in technical education
• The role of ADAS in shaping technician responsibilities today and tomorrow
• What shop owners must do to better support technicians and drive quality repairs
• How to get involved with SkillsUSA and support young talent
• The vision behind Collision Pro Assist and its mission to elevate the technician’s voice

Whether you’re a technician, shop owner, educator, or ADAS professional, this episode is packed with insights, inspiration, and practical advice to help elevate your role in the industry.

🎧 Listen now to hear how Jason Bartanen is leading a grassroots movement to bring real change to technician training, support, and recognition.

🔗 Resources mentioned in the episode:

• CollisionProAssist.com
• Free 7-day trial of Back Bay: whop.com/backbaytrial
• SkillsUSA State Director Directory: https://www.skillsusa.org/advisors/
• Connect with Jason Bartanen in the Revv Forum: https://community.revvhq.com/feed

Adi opens up about his entrepreneurial path—from building space tech prototypes as a teen to founding Revv in response to urgent challenges in the automotive repair industry. You’ll hear how a single phone call from a shop owner sparked a journey that now impacts hundreds of shops and thousands of ADAS calibrations daily.

🎙️ Topics Covered:

• The aha moment that launched Revv
• Why ADAS calibrations are now mission-critical for repair shops
• How Revv’s platform integrates with CCC, Mitchell, and Audatex
• Adi’s product-first mindset and lessons learned scaling a high-growth startup
• Building customer trust through empathy, data, and innovation
• The vision for the ADAS Empowered Community and where the industry is headed

Whether you're an independent repair shop, calibration specialist, or part of a larger collision repair network, this episode offers invaluable insights into how to adapt, grow, and thrive in an era where cars are becoming computers on wheels.

🔧 Don’t miss this candid conversation full of lessons on leadership, technology, and the future of automotive repair.

👉 Subscribe now and join the ADAS Empowered Community at revvhq.com

#ADAS #CollisionRepair #AutoTech #Revv #Calibration #AutoIndustry #ShopOwners #Leadership #TechStartup

The discussion covers key takeaways from the recent ADAS Symposium, the future of ADAS, and the impact of upcoming regulations like FMVSS 127, which mandates automatic emergency braking in all new vehicles. Bruno emphasizes the need for industry-wide education, standardization, and the critical role proper calibration plays in ensuring vehicle safety and performance.

Whether you're a shop owner, technician, or just passionate about automotive innovation, this episode offers valuable insights into the challenges and opportunities shaping the future of vehicle safety and technology.

We explore:

• How ADAS recalibrations have become “the new tune-up”
• Common misconceptions around diagnostics and modified vehicles
• The tools and skills every shop needs in 2025 and beyond
• What separates great techs from good ones
• Real-world diagnostic challenges and lessons learned
• How shop owners can foster a culture of learning and excellence

Whether you're a shop owner, technician, trainer, or just passionate about proper repair standards, this conversation will leave you better informed—and inspired to keep doing things the right way.

Guest Links:
🔗 Ron Racine on LinkedIn